moof_ | how do i get xubuntu to work with my wireless card? | 00:12 |
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Shaba1 | pray moof | 00:13 |
Shaba1 | But really | 00:13 |
Shaba1 | My intenal adapter on my laptop was picked up and turned on autoMAGICALLY by xubuntu. | 00:14 |
Shaba1 | with windows I have to manually press a button on the laptop to get it to turn on. | 00:14 |
moof_ | supposedly my wireless card is compatible with xubuntu, (have the drivers and everything) but xubuntu sees things another way i guess. | 00:15 |
moof_ | wifi-radar keeps telling me that i actually don't have a wireless card. | 00:16 |
Shaba1 | hmmm | 00:20 |
Shaba1 | I have not idea moof_ | 00:20 |
Shaba1 | I am just glad that mine works. | 00:20 |
Shaba1 | I use wicd Becasue I read somewhere on some page that it was better then nm-applet | 00:20 |
knome | what is wifi-radar? | 00:20 |
Shaba1 | Well that worked fine in the previous version of xubuntu before I upgraded to 8.04 | 00:21 |
knome | Shaba1, for most people, nm-applet should work ok. honestly. | 00:21 |
Shaba1 | Now it works but I do not get a icon for signal strength on my status bar/panel | 00:21 |
knome | i know many people disliking it for several reasons, starting from some decisions made by the developers on how to make it "better" | 00:21 |
Shaba1 | I think its a programming error with wicd though | 00:21 |
knome | but that's offtopic already | 00:22 |
Shaba1 | true knome | 00:22 |
moof_ | honestly i'm a total linux newbie, i'm sort of looking for a windows-esque wireless network utility. | 00:30 |
knome | moof_, what's wrong with nm-applet? | 00:30 |
knome | it's quite straightforward | 00:31 |
moof_ | ok, i'll install nm-applet | 00:31 |
moof_ | i'll be right back with the results | 00:31 |
knome | it should be installed by default in xubuntu | 00:31 |
knome | and running | 00:31 |
moof_ | run program nm-applet? | 00:32 |
knome | yep. | 00:32 |
knome | then you should have an icon in the system tray | 00:32 |
moof_ | when i run nm-applet nothing happens. | 00:33 |
knome | do you have system tray in your panel? | 00:34 |
moof_ | all i have is applications and places | 00:34 |
moof_ | if i'm understanding your question right | 00:34 |
knome | ok, add system tray | 00:34 |
moof_ | it says that i already have system tray but i don't see it. | 00:35 |
knome | hmm. | 00:35 |
knome | an icon with two monitors? | 00:35 |
moof_ | ah, yes. | 00:36 |
knome | it is nm-applet | 00:36 |
moof_ | wired network connection | 00:36 |
knome | yes. | 00:36 |
moof_ | yep i have that | 00:36 |
moof_ | sorry for my ineptitude | 00:36 |
knome | nm-applet doesn't want to connect with wifi if you have wired connection | 00:36 |
knome | but once disconnected, see what happens if you left-click the icon | 00:37 |
knome | or you could click it now | 00:37 |
moof_ | ok, so disconnect from my network? | 00:37 |
knome | basically you should do that, yes | 00:37 |
knome | actually eh | 00:38 |
knome | nope | 00:38 |
knome | looks like they've patched this | 00:38 |
knome | now you can connect to wired *and* wifi | 00:38 |
moof_ | well i just disconnected. | 00:38 |
moof_ | what now? | 00:38 |
knome | if you left-click the icon, you should see a list of available networks | 00:38 |
moof_ | left click vpn connections, configure vpn? | 00:39 |
knome | nope. | 00:39 |
knome | there should be a list | 00:39 |
moof_ | all i have is "wired network" and that's it. | 00:39 |
moof_ | no, none. | 00:39 |
knome | if you right-click, is wireless enabled? | 00:39 |
moof_ | if i right click all i have is a checkbox for "enable networking" and "edit connections" | 00:39 |
knome | ok. | 00:40 |
knome | you used ndiswrapper, right? | 00:40 |
moof_ | no, i already have a driver for my wireless card installed | 00:40 |
knome | how? | 00:40 |
moof_ | i didn't think ndiswrapper would be necesary | 00:40 |
knome | (and what is the carD) | 00:41 |
moof_ | atheros 802.11 | 00:42 |
knome | how did you set up the drivers? | 00:43 |
moof_ | applications > system > hardware drivers | 00:44 |
moof_ | when i selected it that was the only driver i had on my system. | 00:45 |
knome | which driver is it? | 00:45 |
moof_ | also i installed hostapd and madwofi-tools | 00:45 |
moof_ | madwifi-tools | 00:45 |
moof_ | * | 00:45 |
moof_ | "support for Atheros 802.11 wireless LAN cards. | 00:46 |
moof_ | and "Support for 5xxx series of Atheros 802.11 wireless LAN cards" | 00:46 |
knome | moof_, what output does 'iwconfig' give in terminal? | 00:47 |
moof_ | every one says "no wireless extensions." | 00:48 |
knome | ok, so somehow it is not recognised | 00:48 |
knome | did you boot after installing the drivers? | 00:48 |
moof_ | not immediately afterwards but i did about an hour after installation. | 00:48 |
knome | yeah ok | 00:49 |
moof_ | just out of curiosity how would i find out my wireless card again? | 00:49 |
knome | 'lspci' / 'lshw' | 00:50 |
moof_ | yep it's the atheros | 00:51 |
knome | can you paste the complete card name/model | 00:51 |
moof_ | "01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01) | 00:52 |
knome | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766169 | 00:55 |
knome | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=863777 | 00:55 |
knome | have you read those through? | 00:55 |
moof_ | what's the xubuntu equivalent of the "system" menu? | 00:58 |
moof_ | like i said, all i have is applications and places. | 00:59 |
knome | moof_, applications -> system | 01:00 |
moof_ | can i just sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper? | 01:02 |
knome | i have no experiences on ndiswrapper and don't know if it would help. | 01:02 |
knome | just had a quick look on the forums | 01:02 |
moof_ | yeah you're probably right. after all it says i DO have the driver. | 01:02 |
moof_ | i can't see how ndiswrapper could help me with this. | 01:03 |
moof_ | if it helps i'm using an Eee PC, however i'm not using the modified Eee xubuntu. | 01:09 |
Shaba1 | Ok I cannot help | 01:11 |
Shaba1 | but what is Eee PC? | 01:11 |
knome | moof_, a-ha! | 01:12 |
knome | moof_, see this: http://array.org/ubuntu/ | 01:12 |
knome | moof_, afaik, the 2.6.27- series doesn't work. might as well. i'm running 2.6.24- on my eeepc on intrepid. | 01:13 |
knome | Shaba1, it is a small pc. | 01:14 |
moof_ | sorry i'm dense, what exactly does that mean i have to do? | 01:14 |
knome | Shaba1, http://array.org/ubuntu/ | 01:14 |
Shaba1 | huh? | 01:15 |
knome | moof_, add the repository(-ies) to your ubuntu installation and install the eeepc-kernel packages | 01:15 |
Shaba1 | What was that knome | 01:15 |
knome | Shaba1, wrong link. ;) right one: http://eeepc.asus.com/global/index.html | 01:15 |
Shaba1 | was that about my panel icon issue | 01:15 |
Shaba1 | oh ok | 01:15 |
knome | that is eeepc. | 01:15 |
Shaba1 | I just wanted to know what it was | 01:15 |
knome | Shaba1, what was your panel icon issue? :) | 01:16 |
squeee | Hi, I was thinking about installing xubuntu, and tried running it using the disc before installation, and I'm stuck at a command prompt, should I reset and try again, or try the command to start up the desktop(which I forgot)? | 01:19 |
knome | squeee, this might be a known bug or some problems. | 01:19 |
knome | squeee, "startx" | 01:19 |
squeee | "xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server" and errno 3 | 01:21 |
moof_ | alright, let's see (hope) this works :( | 01:34 |
moof_ | dang, no dice | 01:36 |
moof_ | that should've worked | 01:36 |
Shaba1 | the wicd icon does not show up in that top panel | 02:01 |
Shaba1 | althougth Iknow the program is working since I can get online | 02:01 |
knome | Shaba1, ah, that one.. | 02:03 |
Shaba1 | yep that one | 02:12 |
Shaba1 | I will figure it out | 02:12 |
Shaba1 | it does not matter since the program still works | 02:12 |
Shaba1 | but i just like to have things the way they were suppose to be | 02:12 |
knome | sure | 02:13 |
moof_ | ok knome i installed the eeepc custom kernel from the site you gave me. | 02:14 |
moof_ | now wifi-radar and other wifi based applications should work? | 02:14 |
knome | moof_, when you boot, make sure the eeepc-kernel is selected in grub | 02:14 |
knome | after that - they should | 02:14 |
moof_ | yep i got that | 02:14 |
moof_ | "no wifi-device found. exiting." | 02:15 |
moof_ | christ. | 02:15 |
knome | which kernel did you select? | 02:15 |
knome | /you have | 02:15 |
moof_ | the eeepc kernel | 02:15 |
knome | which kernel version number? ;) | 02:16 |
moof_ | dunno, let me restart | 02:16 |
knome | no! | 02:16 |
knome | :) | 02:16 |
knome | 'uname -a' in terminal | 02:16 |
knome | or 'uname -r' for the kernel revision only | 02:16 |
moof_ | linux ubuntu 2.6.27-8-eeepc | 02:17 |
knome | ok | 02:17 |
knome | try to add the hardy repository | 02:17 |
knome | and install 2.6.24-* | 02:17 |
knome | and use that | 02:17 |
moof_ | so you want me to install hardy? | 02:18 |
moof_ | because i was using intrepid before. | 02:18 |
knome | nope | 02:18 |
knome | just add the hardy repository | 02:18 |
moof_ | how do i do that? | 02:18 |
moof_ | sorry.. hah | 02:18 |
knome | like you added the intrepid one | 02:18 |
knome | ;) | 02:18 |
moof_ | ok. | 02:18 |
moof_ | so you want me to add the hardy kernel? | 02:19 |
knome | yes, that is what i'm doing | 02:19 |
moof_ | will that still be compatible with my computer | 02:19 |
moof_ | if everything else is intreped | 02:19 |
knome | should. if not, just choose other kernel in grub. :) | 02:19 |
moof_ | alright, i'll try it. | 02:19 |
moof_ | thanks for all of your help by the way | 02:19 |
knome | it works for me so i'm relatively sure it's ok | 02:19 |
moof_ | be right back. | 02:19 |
knome | np | 02:19 |
moof_ | http://array.org/ubuntu/setup-hardy.html | 02:21 |
moof_ | do i need to follow all of the instructions are only down to the download eeepc kernel? | 02:21 |
moof_ | or* | 02:21 |
knome | let me have a look | 02:21 |
knome | suppose you could just D/L the kernel here: http://array.org/ubuntu/setup-hardy-alt.html | 02:22 |
knome | and install the deb package | 02:22 |
knome | but just adding the repository and installing the package is also ok | 02:22 |
knome | you get the same result, basically | 02:23 |
sikun | why would a the load avg of my laptop be in the 5's ? | 02:24 |
knome | sikun, you're running some cpu consuming processes? | 02:24 |
knome | or your cpu sucks | 02:25 |
knome | ;) | 02:25 |
sikun | oh hell.. i just got this laptop.. it overheats | 02:25 |
sikun | runs like a POS | 02:25 |
sikun | i'm about ready to throw it out a window | 02:25 |
knome | sikun, you can see 'top', 'htop' or 'powertop' (you might need to install the latter two) | 02:25 |
sikun | ye | 02:26 |
moof_ | ok so knome | 02:26 |
knome | moof_, yes? | 02:26 |
moof_ | i'm going to be right back with the results | 02:27 |
moof_ | (hopefully) | 02:27 |
moof_ | so don't go anywhere | 02:27 |
knome | sure. i will be here. | 02:27 |
squeee | So I used the CD self scan and it said it found errors in 18 files, is that a problem with the .iso? | 02:35 |
knome | squeee, or the burning process. | 02:35 |
squeee | Well, I was hoping that there was a confirmed problem with the iso because I can't do much about the burning | 02:36 |
knome | did you check the checksums | 02:37 |
squeee | Don't know how | 02:37 |
knome | !checksum | 02:37 |
ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about checksum | 02:37 |
knome | squeee, you need to check it in windows? | 02:38 |
squeee | What am I checking? The iso? | 02:39 |
knome | squeee, the checksum. do you have ubuntu installed somewhere or do you need to check it in windows? | 02:39 |
knome | squeee, and yes, the is | 02:39 |
knome | o | 02:39 |
squeee | Then I need to do it in windows | 02:39 |
knome | http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/iso#checksum | 02:39 |
knome | squeee, see that ^ | 02:40 |
squeee | I'm running Vista, I don't have that directory | 02:43 |
moof_ | hey | 02:43 |
knome | moof_, hello. it works or not? | 02:43 |
moof_ | knome when i try to install it it just says that the new version of intrepid is up to date | 02:44 |
knome | a-ha.. | 02:44 |
moof_ | i did everything in the instructions. | 02:44 |
moof_ | but i did notice that the commands for installing both would be the same | 02:44 |
knome | so you went from synaptic? | 02:46 |
knome | moof_, ^ ...or? | 02:47 |
moof_ | sorry, synaptic? | 02:47 |
knome | basically you *should* be able to install several kernel versions with *no* problem | 02:47 |
knome | moof_, how did you try to install the package? D/Ld it and double clicked? | 02:48 |
moof_ | i followed the instructions on the site you showed me | 02:48 |
knome | http://array.org/ubuntu/setup-hardy-alt.html - this one? | 02:49 |
moof_ | yeah. | 02:49 |
knome | so at which point did you get that output? | 02:49 |
moof_ | after sudo apt-get install linux-eeepc | 02:50 |
knome | ah. | 02:51 |
knome | you should already have the older kernel | 02:51 |
knome | you only needed the first 7 steps | 02:51 |
knome | i should've been more verbose :) | 02:51 |
knome | in grub, do you see the 2.6.24-* kernel? | 02:52 |
moof_ | i can reboot and check? | 02:52 |
knome | sure. | 02:53 |
moof_ | k, rebooting. | 02:53 |
moof_ | all i get in grub are 2.6.27-9-generic and recovery 27-9-eeepc and recovery and 27-7-generic and recovery | 02:55 |
moof_ | and memtest86+ | 02:55 |
knome | hmm.. | 02:56 |
knome | apps -> system -> synaptic | 02:56 |
knome | search for "linux-image". what gives? | 02:57 |
knome | (you should see 2.6.24-* as installed) | 02:57 |
moof_ | should i boot in the eeepc kernel? | 02:57 |
knome | not necessary. | 02:57 |
moof_ | well i need to boot in something | 02:58 |
knome | nope. | 02:58 |
knome | just go to synaptic and search | 02:58 |
moof_ | what am i searching in synaptic? | 03:00 |
knome | 'linux-image' | 03:00 |
moof_ | ok searched | 03:00 |
moof_ | top i have linux-image-debug-386 | 03:00 |
moof_ | linux-image | 03:00 |
moof_ | moblin-image-creator | 03:01 |
moof_ | etc | 03:01 |
knome | yeah. anything which has something to do with 2.6.24 ? :) | 03:01 |
moof_ | no | 03:03 |
moof_ | jumps from 2.6.25 to 2.6.23 | 03:03 |
knome | ok, do you have the .deb packages still somewhere | 03:03 |
knome | (on the eeepc) | 03:03 |
moof_ | how would i go about finding that out? | 03:04 |
moof_ | (sorry for noobish-ness once again) | 03:04 |
knome | you downloaded them from that page? and saved to somewhere, right? | 03:04 |
knome | (most possibly ~/Desktop, where ~ is /home/yourusername) | 03:05 |
moof_ | no, i never downloaded anything from the page | 03:05 |
knome | a-ha! | 03:05 |
moof_ | i just used the terminal | 03:05 |
knome | ok, you need the packages | 03:05 |
knome | Download, step 2. | 03:05 |
moof_ | oh wow. | 03:06 |
moof_ | http://array.org/ubuntu/setup-hardy-alt.html | 03:06 |
knome | and then with terminal, proceed to the directory with them | 03:06 |
moof_ | so do everything on that page? | 03:06 |
knome | and supply command at 5. | 03:07 |
knome | that's what you need. | 03:07 |
knome | 2. and 5. | 03:07 |
knome | basically. | 03:07 |
knome | just forget everything else | 03:07 |
moof_ | alright | 03:07 |
moof_ | i'll let you know what happens | 03:07 |
moof_ | brb | 03:07 |
knome | and then just boot and look for the 2.6.24-* kernel in grub | 03:07 |
moof_ | is it necessary to put the file it requested i download on a flash drive? | 03:09 |
knome | no. | 03:09 |
knome | just put it *anywhere* | 03:09 |
moof_ | ok, so just download it? | 03:09 |
knome | yes. | 03:09 |
moof_ | ok, it's all downloaded | 03:12 |
moof_ | now sudo dpkg -i linux-image*.deb linux-ubuntu-modules*.deb ? | 03:12 |
knome | yes, in the dir the files are | 03:13 |
moof_ | ok i know this is going to piss you off, and i'm sorry, but the files i downloaded are on the desktop. how do i go to that location? | 03:15 |
moof_ | i really am a newbie. | 03:15 |
moof_ | haha | 03:15 |
knome | in terminal, just type 'cd Desktop' (note the casing) | 03:15 |
moof_ | ok, thanks | 03:16 |
moof_ | :) | 03:16 |
moof_ | ok it's running. | 03:16 |
moof_ | be back after restart | 03:16 |
knome | yeah. | 03:17 |
moof_ | still no 2.6.24 in grub | 03:18 |
moof_ | is that indicative of anything? | 03:19 |
knome | really? | 03:19 |
knome | hmm. | 03:19 |
knome | maybe try again and paste the output of dpkg in ... | 03:19 |
knome | !pastebin | 03:19 |
ubottu | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 03:19 |
moof_ | ok | 03:19 |
linuxman410 | i use xubuntu on my main computer i do not use windows is that safe | 03:25 |
moof_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/93020 | 03:26 |
knome | a-ha! | 03:26 |
moof_ | hmm? | 03:27 |
knome | moof_, maybe try dpkg -i linux-image*.deb | 03:27 |
knome | moof_, and then linux-ubuntu-modules-*.deb | 03:27 |
moof_ | "error processing linux-image*.deb (--install): cannot access archive: no such file or directory Errors were encountered while processing: linux-image*.deb | 03:29 |
knome | moof_, cd Desktop? | 03:29 |
moof_ | yes. | 03:29 |
knome | a-ha yes i se | 03:30 |
linuxman410 | does anyone here use xubuntu as main desktop | 03:30 |
knome | linuxman410, yes. | 03:30 |
knome | moof_, you sure you downloaded *both* of the fileS? | 03:30 |
moof_ | here i think i know what's wrong. | 03:30 |
moof_ | be right back. | 03:30 |
knome | np. | 03:30 |
knome | i'm starting to be a bit unfocused unwillingly since it's 5:30am | 03:32 |
moof_ | what time zone are you in knome? | 03:32 |
linuxman410 | does preload work on xubuntu | 03:32 |
knome | linuxman410, preload? | 03:32 |
knome | moof_, utc+2 (finlanf) | 03:33 |
knome | *finland | 03:33 |
linuxman410 | yeah i read about it on a linux user group website it makes ubuntu boot faster | 03:33 |
knome | linuxman410, it will work on xubuntu then. | 03:33 |
moof_ | are you a native fin? | 03:34 |
knome | linuxman410, the basic architecture is the same, xubuntu just uses xfce as desktop instead of gnome (+ some other minor differences) | 03:34 |
knome | moof_, yes :) | 03:34 |
moof_ | your english is excellent. | 03:34 |
moof_ | i thought you were american or british. hah. | 03:34 |
knome | thanks. | 03:34 |
knome | oh, heh | 03:34 |
linuxman410 | i have done converted 2 of my neighbors to using xubuntu and ubuntu | 03:35 |
knome | i'm better at writing/reading than speaking/listening though it works ok as well | 03:35 |
knome | linuxman410, great to hear. | 03:35 |
moof_ | that's normal for europeans and asians. | 03:36 |
moof_ | normally because they're taught english through books rather than speaking | 03:36 |
moof_ | ok, restarting. | 03:36 |
knome | moof_, yeah. but my english always gets better when i'm abroad for a few days | 03:36 |
moof_ | let's see what grub says this time. | 03:36 |
knome | good luck :) | 03:37 |
linuxman410 | i like xubuntu it runs good on my p4 | 03:37 |
moof_ | certainly, hah. | 03:37 |
moof_ | knome, when do you normally go to bed anyway? | 03:40 |
knome | moof_, too late. :D | 03:40 |
linuxman410 | the slowest machine i got it to run on was a 500mhz with 256 ram | 03:40 |
knome | moof_, normally as in when i have to wake up, about 2am | 03:40 |
knome | moof_, or 1am. :) | 03:40 |
moof_ | haha | 03:41 |
moof_ | got the day off i'm assuming? | 03:41 |
knome | linuxman410, you can run it with even lower specs, but it will be slow | 03:41 |
moof_ | xubuntu will run on anything | 03:41 |
moof_ | it's really amazing in that regard | 03:41 |
knome | moof_, christmas holidays until mid january | 03:41 |
linuxman410 | wow i did not know that | 03:41 |
knome | the older xubuntu versions run with older pcs better | 03:42 |
knome | 8.10 really needs 256 ram to be at least somehow usable | 03:42 |
keb | i like 7.04 for old machines | 03:42 |
knome | keb, not a bad choice ;) | 03:42 |
linuxman410 | i am running it on p4 1.8 and 1 gig of ram and dvd burner and 40 gig harddrive | 03:43 |
knome | that's way over the min specs | 03:43 |
moof_ | agh my eeepc is running dual systems, linux and xubuntu because i don't have a flash drive at the moment (haha) and eeepcs don't have cd drives | 03:44 |
linuxman410 | it runs good though | 03:44 |
keb | by "old" i mean p3 700 with 384MB | 03:44 |
moof_ | lol, *windows and xubuntu | 03:44 |
moof_ | sorry, i'm tired too i guess. | 03:44 |
knome | i'm running amd64 dual-cpu 4600+ with 4 gigs ram | 03:44 |
linuxman410 | i do not run windows at all any more | 03:44 |
keb | there is a nice eeebuntu distro and custom kernel | 03:45 |
linuxman410 | i have not run windows in about 8 to 10 years | 03:45 |
knome | keb, the array.org ubuntu repository works actually quite nice. :) | 03:45 |
keb | yes | 03:45 |
moof_ | i'm running a dimension e521 with amd 64 processor 3200 1 gig ddr2 | 03:45 |
moof_ | :( | 03:46 |
moof_ | ok, knome grub now shows both 2.6.27 and 2.6.24 | 03:46 |
moof_ | what now? | 03:46 |
keb | wow nice | 03:47 |
knome | moof_, select the 2.6.24-* and boot to it. | 03:47 |
knome | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/93024/ | 03:48 |
knome | there's my setup :) | 03:48 |
knome | it's a bit outdated though | 03:48 |
linuxman410 | that is a great setup | 03:49 |
moof_ | better than mine haha | 03:49 |
knome | hmm. i also have an a6 wacom tablet | 03:49 |
moof_ | i ended up getting this one from my friends mother | 03:49 |
moof_ | who got a "virus" on it | 03:50 |
moof_ | and sold it to me for 70 bucks | 03:50 |
knome | but think of upgrading that as i get a new *TABLE* to fit it in. | 03:50 |
moof_ | holy crap | 03:50 |
moof_ | knome you are a god. | 03:50 |
knome | not really. i'm just investing in computers rather than many more things | 03:51 |
linuxman410 | i bought a old compaq p4 2.53 and 768 megs ddr ram and a dvd/cdrw and 40 gig harddrive and i put ubuntu on that one | 03:51 |
knome | and i also do need these things to work | 03:51 |
moof_ | ok wifi-radar works now etc etc | 03:52 |
moof_ | so | 03:52 |
linuxman410 | i buy computers cheap at work and turn them in linux boxes | 03:52 |
moof_ | now do i just boot in the .24 kernel? | 03:53 |
knome | moof_, second | 03:53 |
moof_ | from now on? | 03:53 |
knome | moof_, wait :) | 03:53 |
knome | moof_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=839215&p=5252796 | 03:56 |
moof_ | how much space does each kernel take up? | 04:00 |
moof_ | i have really limited hard drive space. haha | 04:01 |
knome | mm. actually quite a lot. | 04:01 |
knome | but it is way safer *not* to remove any kernels | 04:01 |
knome | i mean, safe not to remove the newest | 04:02 |
moof_ | here's a question | 04:03 |
moof_ | i used wubi to install xubuntu due to lack of flash drive or cd drive | 04:03 |
knome | yes | 04:04 |
moof_ | so is there any way to delete windows to free up the space for xubuntu? | 04:04 |
knome | !partitioning | 04:04 |
ubottu | For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted or !QTParted - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap | 04:04 |
knome | basically it is hard to resize the root partition, becuase you can't run the system from the filesystem if you're resizing it | 04:05 |
knome | but yes, you can remove windows partition and mount it to for example /data | 04:06 |
knome | or /home | 04:06 |
linuxman410 | be right back have to restart just updated | 04:07 |
moof_ | could you rephrase that for me? | 04:08 |
knome | moof_, ouch. | 04:08 |
knome | :) | 04:08 |
moof_ | lol, sorry | 04:08 |
moof_ | im a noob | 04:08 |
knome | moof_, i suppose you only have one linux partition | 04:08 |
moof_ | ? | 04:08 |
knome | ok, let's go one lever up | 04:08 |
knome | *level up | 04:08 |
knome | or down, | 04:08 |
sinbox | stay in the middle | 04:09 |
knome | moof_, what does 'mount | grep ext' say in terminal? | 04:09 |
moof_ | something about mounting a cd or a distribution | 04:09 |
moof_ | i assume | 04:09 |
knome | paste the output, please :) | 04:10 |
moof_ | oh | 04:10 |
moof_ | haha | 04:10 |
moof_ | sorry | 04:10 |
moof_ | -_- | 04:10 |
knome | np | 04:10 |
moof_ | /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) | 04:12 |
knome | ok, so you have one partition for ubuntu | 04:12 |
knome | it is mounted as / | 04:12 |
moof_ | ok | 04:13 |
knome | if you'd want to resize that partition, you'd need a flash drive or any other distro | 04:13 |
knome | but you can remove the windows partition ('mount | grep fat') and create a new partition for ubuntu | 04:13 |
knome | mounted in, for example, /home | 04:14 |
knome | so all that space would be reserved for your files in /home | 04:14 |
knome | and everything else is in the / partition | 04:14 |
knome | you get it? :) | 04:14 |
moof_ | so what you're saying is that i can essentially delete windows | 04:15 |
moof_ | and use the space left over for linux? | 04:15 |
knome | yes. | 04:15 |
knome | how many gigs HD do you have? | 04:16 |
moof_ | it's the eeepc so not many | 04:16 |
knome | yeah, but how many ;) | 04:16 |
moof_ | what's the command? | 04:16 |
knome | df -h | 04:17 |
knome | and check the /host/ubuntu ... and tab size | 04:17 |
moof_ | 16 gigs | 04:17 |
moof_ | haha | 04:17 |
knome | ok. | 04:17 |
knome | that's enough | 04:17 |
moof_ | ipods are bigger than that | 04:17 |
moof_ | lol. | 04:17 |
knome | i have the 4gig version | 04:17 |
knome | so i'm really strict on what i install | 04:18 |
knome | ;) | 04:18 |
moof_ | yeah, but i'm running windows on it | 04:18 |
moof_ | and by me i of course mean | 04:18 |
moof_ | the previous owner | 04:18 |
moof_ | installed windows | 04:18 |
moof_ | hence all of this hassle | 04:18 |
knome | that was the linux partition size | 04:18 |
knome | but anyway uh | 04:19 |
knome | !gparted | 04:19 |
ubottu | gparted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php | 04:19 |
knome | you want that package to handle the partitioning | 04:19 |
knome | *package=application | 04:19 |
moof_ | ok, so once i install gparted | 04:20 |
moof_ | what do i do? | 04:20 |
knome | run it and ask me | 04:20 |
moof_ | ok. | 04:20 |
knome | (you can find it in system->partition editor) | 04:22 |
moof_ | alright the partition editor is opened | 04:22 |
moof_ | yeah, i know that much | 04:22 |
moof_ | haha. | 04:23 |
knome | ok - what do you see | 04:23 |
knome | i suppose two partitions? | 04:23 |
moof_ | yes | 04:23 |
moof_ | /dev/sda1 | 04:23 |
moof_ | and unallocated | 04:23 |
knome | unallocated? | 04:23 |
knome | what's the size? | 04:24 |
moof_ | that's what it says under partition | 04:24 |
knome | ok | 04:24 |
moof_ | 3.94 MiB | 04:24 |
knome | ok, looks like wubi is doing some magic. | 04:24 |
knome | you don't have windows | 04:24 |
moof_ | dude, i know for a fact i have windows | 04:24 |
knome | hmm... | 04:24 |
moof_ | could something be wrong that would give me this result? | 04:25 |
knome | nope. | 04:25 |
knome | could the eeepc have two hds?:P | 04:25 |
moof_ | ohh | 04:25 |
moof_ | hold on | 04:25 |
knome | yes | 04:25 |
moof_ | ok so i clicked on the button in the top right that says "/dev/sda" | 04:25 |
knome | yes | 04:25 |
moof_ | and it's a drop-down that has | 04:25 |
knome | and there is /dev/sdb | 04:25 |
knome | ? ;) | 04:26 |
moof_ | called it | 04:26 |
moof_ | that one is 15.03 | 04:26 |
moof_ | GiB | 04:26 |
knome | and filesystem fat32 ? | 04:26 |
moof_ | how would i find that out? | 04:26 |
knome | oe ntfs | 04:26 |
knome | *or | 04:26 |
knome | read it on the filesystem tab! :P | 04:26 |
moof_ | ntfs yes | 04:26 |
moof_ | gotcha i just realized that | 04:27 |
moof_ | sorry. | 04:27 |
knome | ok, that's the windows partition | 04:27 |
knome | do you need any files from it? | 04:27 |
moof_ | both of them say ntfs. | 04:27 |
moof_ | no. | 04:27 |
knome | ...both? | 04:27 |
moof_ | /dev/sda and /dev/sdb | 04:27 |
knome | uhm. | 04:27 |
knome | i must say i'm a bit clueless | 04:28 |
knome | i have absolutely no experience on wubi | 04:28 |
knome | let me read a few forum posts | 04:28 |
moof_ | that's alright | 04:28 |
moof_ | i'm assuming the /sda is xubuntu | 04:28 |
knome | mountpoint / | 04:28 |
knome | ? | 04:28 |
moof_ | because it's only 3.76 whereas the sdb is 15 | 04:28 |
moof_ | mountpoint? i'm sorry. | 04:29 |
knome | the tab mountpoint | 04:29 |
knome | what do they say in both sda and sdb | 04:29 |
moof_ | i'm not seeing a mountpoint tab | 04:30 |
moof_ | all i have is partiotion, filesystem, size, used, unused, and flags | 04:30 |
moof_ | partition* | 04:31 |
knome | hmmmmm | 04:31 |
stweston_ | anyone know how to configure a 2nd HDD to show up in the filesystem? | 04:31 |
knome | stweston_, a new unformatted one? | 04:32 |
stweston_ | not necessarily. | 04:32 |
knome | !fstab | 04:33 |
ubottu | The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions | 04:33 |
stweston_ | it currently has a 2nd install of xubuntu, but I would like to get it to be read by this HDD. | 04:34 |
knome | stweston_, once or infinitely? | 04:34 |
stweston_ | ... so that I can wipe the other HDD clean, and have more space, ultimately | 04:34 |
stweston_ | sorry, but what do you mean? | 04:34 |
knome | stweston_, sounds like infinitely. | 04:35 |
stweston_ | okay. I guess so | 04:35 |
knome | stweston_, read the links ubottu pasted | 04:35 |
knome | moof_, hmm. | 04:35 |
stweston_ | sure. thanks. | 04:35 |
knome | moof_, i'm all confused by both being ntfs. | 04:36 |
knome | moof_, maybe you should wait for somebody else or ask for example #ubuntu (this ain't xubuntu specific) | 04:36 |
knome | moof_, 16gigs is going to carry you far | 04:36 |
moof_ | but if most of it's being taken up by windows | 04:37 |
moof_ | it doesn't really mean much | 04:37 |
knome | moof_, from the df -h output it looks like you have 16gigs in ubuntu | 04:37 |
knome | moof_, or eh | 04:37 |
knome | not really ;) | 04:38 |
moof_ | would you like me to paste bin the df -h output? | 04:38 |
knome | moof_, the free space in that output of course | 04:38 |
moof_ | because i'm not really sure how to read it | 04:38 |
moof_ | ha | 04:38 |
knome | moof_, ok, put it in pastebin | 04:38 |
moof_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/93039/ | 04:40 |
knome | a-ha.. | 04:40 |
knome | interesting | 04:40 |
knome | really interesting | 04:40 |
knome | i'm actually even more confused | 04:41 |
moof_ | oh god. | 04:41 |
moof_ | haha | 04:41 |
knome | looks like the sdb is windows, yes. maybe. | 04:42 |
stweston_ | okay... | 04:42 |
knome | moof_, maybe ask somebody else who has experience on wubi | 04:42 |
moof_ | alright will do | 04:43 |
moof_ | how much free space do i have though? | 04:43 |
moof_ | haha | 04:43 |
moof_ | sorry.. | 04:43 |
stweston_ | question: can secondary internal HDDs be detected by primary HDDs, if connected by an IDE cable? | 04:43 |
stweston_ | sorry - I think I phrased that wrong. | 04:43 |
knome | moof_, 1.38 in / and 2.5G in /host | 04:44 |
stweston_ | or maybe I didn't? I dunno. | 04:44 |
knome | stweston_, possibly your hdd is *detected* | 04:44 |
keb | stweston_ the HDDs dont detect anything | 04:44 |
stweston_ | oh. | 04:44 |
knome | keb, you have experience on wubi? | 04:44 |
keb | stweston_ do you mean master and slave on primary and secondary ide channels? | 04:44 |
keb | knome no | 04:45 |
knome | k... | 04:45 |
knome | moof_, #ubuntu might be your best shot right now :) | 04:45 |
stweston_ | yes; they're both Master, and they are on separate channels. | 04:45 |
moof_ | alright, thanks for all of your help tonight knome | 04:45 |
moof_ | one last question | 04:45 |
knome | moof_, np. | 04:45 |
moof_ | what do i ask them? | 04:45 |
moof_ | exactly? | 04:46 |
knome | moof_, you have installed *ubuntu with wubi and you want to use all the HD with ubuntu. what do you do :) | 04:46 |
keb | stweston_ then what is the question ? | 04:46 |
knome | moof_, and see http://xubuntu.org/contribute - if you at any time feel you want to give something back. | 04:47 |
stweston_ | sorry, the question is how can xubuntu detect the secondary IDE channel? | 04:47 |
stweston_ | well, first, is it hardware or software? | 04:47 |
moof_ | alright, will do. | 04:47 |
keb | stweston_ it does automatically during boot up | 04:47 |
moof_ | thanks a bunch. see you later (maybe) | 04:47 |
knome | moof_, see you, and have a nice day/night | 04:47 |
stweston_ | that's not what I mean... | 04:47 |
knome | stweston_, what do you have in /media ? | 04:48 |
stweston_ | I mean, how can I /mount/ the 2nd HDD into xubuntu? | 04:48 |
stweston_ | lemme check | 04:48 |
keb | stweston_ but if your bios doesnt see the secondary ide channel, linux probly wont either | 04:48 |
knome | keb, it *won't* if the bios doesn't :D | 04:48 |
stweston_ | it does, though. | 04:48 |
stweston_ | it's detected in BIOS | 04:48 |
knome | keb, there is not that much black magic ;) | 04:48 |
keb | well sometimes an old bios doesnt see large disks | 04:49 |
stweston_ | it's not large. | 04:49 |
stweston_ | it's about 4 gig | 04:49 |
keb | stweston_ is the 2nd HDD partitioned and formatted already? | 04:49 |
keb | you can use gparted to see it | 04:49 |
stweston_ | it currently is running Xubuntu, as well. | 04:49 |
stweston_ | so, I'm not sure if they're formatted correctly, but they both run Xubuntu. | 04:50 |
stweston_ | is anyone there? | 04:52 |
knome | stweston_, yes. did you find something in /media ? | 04:52 |
stweston_ | only cdrom and floppy | 04:52 |
knome | k | 04:53 |
stweston_ | I don't know how I could really help, so... | 04:55 |
knome | i'm too tired to be really concentrated anymore. sory | 04:55 |
knome | *sorry | 04:55 |
knome | maybe ask later again | 04:55 |
stweston_ | oh. that's fine. | 04:55 |
stweston_ | thanks anyway, though! | 04:55 |
keb | normally the automounter can do it for you if it finds the partitions | 04:56 |
keb | but you can also create the mount point directory in /media or /mnt and manually mount to it | 04:57 |
stweston_ | is there some way to hard-wire it so that it mounts, or does it not matter? | 05:00 |
keb | if you put an entry in /etc/fstab it will always mount | 05:01 |
stweston_ | and how would I go about that? I've got the links up, but I don't understand them. | 05:01 |
keb | do you know which partitions are on the drive? | 05:01 |
stweston_ | only one, I think; the one(s) with Xubuntu on it. | 05:02 |
keb | do you know what the system calls that partition? | 05:02 |
stweston_ | not really. | 05:02 |
stweston_ | I know there's a swap partition, I think. | 05:02 |
sinbox | do you want to keep that other ubuntu install on the 2nd drive? | 05:03 |
keb | if you go to your menu and find System, Partition Editor you can see what is where | 05:03 |
stweston_ | no | 05:03 |
stweston_ | okay. | 05:03 |
keb | but dont change anything ;) | 05:03 |
stweston_ | no partition editor | 05:04 |
keb | oic | 05:04 |
stweston_ | ? what do you see? | 05:04 |
keb | what if you start a terminal and type gparted | 05:05 |
stweston_ | lemme check | 05:05 |
stweston_ | the program isn't installed. I'll do that. | 05:05 |
keb | ok | 05:05 |
stweston_ | done | 05:06 |
stweston_ | wait - it says "only root may run gparted" | 05:07 |
stweston_ | how do I get to root? (please pardon the noobishness) | 05:07 |
keb | yes thats a safety feature. type gksudo gparted | 05:07 |
stweston_ | okay | 05:08 |
stweston_ | there we go | 05:08 |
stweston_ | okay. | 05:08 |
keb | you should be able to see all your hard disks and what the system calls them | 05:08 |
stweston_ | it shows up! | 05:08 |
stweston_ | yes | 05:09 |
stweston_ | /dev/sdb, sounds right | 05:09 |
keb | and how they are formatted and which are bootable | 05:09 |
keb | well it has to have a number at the end too | 05:09 |
stweston_ | hm.... | 05:10 |
stweston_ | okay. it's sdb1 | 05:10 |
stweston_ | ext3 filesystem | 05:10 |
stweston_ | now, how do I get into there? | 05:10 |
keb | well gparted may give you a mount option in its menus or right click thing | 05:11 |
stweston_ | okay. | 05:11 |
keb | if not, at least you know what it is called | 05:11 |
stweston_ | I think it's mounted, but I can't find out how to open it up. | 05:11 |
stweston_ | the folder, I mean. | 05:11 |
keb | if you type 'mount' in a terminal, you will see where it is mounted | 05:12 |
sinbox | 5am not a good time to mess with the system | 05:12 |
sinbox | night night all | 05:12 |
keb | night | 05:12 |
stweston_ | okay. | 05:12 |
stweston_ | night! | 05:12 |
stweston_ | so, then... | 05:13 |
keb | did you find it | 05:13 |
stweston_ | how do I open the filesystem? | 05:13 |
stweston_ | I know where it is, I found a file with that name, but... | 05:14 |
stweston_ | I can't find the program it opens with... | 05:14 |
keb | did you see it listed in the output of the mount command | 05:14 |
stweston_ | I can't type that for some reason. is it 'cause Gparted is open? | 05:14 |
keb | ah yes could be | 05:14 |
stweston_ | okay | 05:15 |
stweston_ | there we go. | 05:15 |
stweston_ | so, I typed in mount, and got a whole long list. should I search for something? | 05:16 |
keb | it should have a folder path listed next to it in the mount output | 05:16 |
stweston_ | okay | 05:16 |
stweston_ | wait... next to what? | 05:16 |
keb | look for sdb1 | 05:16 |
stweston_ | okay... | 05:16 |
stweston_ | I don't think it lists it. | 05:17 |
stweston_ | it only shows /dev/sda1 | 05:17 |
keb | ok | 05:17 |
keb | what do you want to call the other partition and where do you want it to appear? | 05:18 |
stweston_ | what do you mean, exactly? | 05:18 |
keb | well you can give it a name | 05:18 |
stweston_ | yes | 05:18 |
stweston_ | okay... I think I'm confused. | 05:20 |
keb | for example, if you want to call it xubuntu2 you could mount it at /mnt/xubuntu2 or at /home/stweston_/xubuntu2 | 05:21 |
stweston_ | oh. well, I'm thinking of just having it as extra space once I'm ready. | 05:21 |
stweston_ | in the meantime, I just need to see if there's anything I need to take across. | 05:21 |
keb | for example, if you want to call it extraspace you could mount it at /mnt/extraspace or at /home/stweston_/extraspace | 05:21 |
stweston_ | okay. | 05:21 |
keb | to do that, you need to mkdir the mount point at the right place | 05:22 |
stweston_ | gotcha | 05:22 |
stweston_ | I think. | 05:22 |
keb | and then you can mount it | 05:22 |
stweston_ | so, how do I go about that? | 05:22 |
keb | mkdir /home/stweston_/extraspace | 05:23 |
stweston_ | okay... | 05:23 |
stweston_ | well, how would I get it to link to the other HDD? | 05:23 |
keb | mount /dev/sdb1 /home/stweston_/extraspace | 05:23 |
stweston_ | okay. | 05:23 |
keb | oh, you are saying you want the whole partition to be added to an existing partition ? | 05:24 |
stweston_ | no | 05:24 |
stweston_ | well, maybe. | 05:24 |
stweston_ | somewhat. | 05:25 |
keb | that would involve the LVM which comes with xubuntu but i dont know about | 05:25 |
stweston_ | LVM? | 05:25 |
keb | !lvm | 05:26 |
ubottu | Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO | 05:26 |
keb | hmm | 05:26 |
stweston_ | hm? | 05:26 |
keb | the bot was sleeping on the job | 05:26 |
stweston_ | I honestly don't know what I'm trying to do, but I think it involves erasing the HDD I have, and adding it to the filesystem of this primary HDD. | 05:27 |
stweston_ | at least, if that's possible. | 05:27 |
keb | yes that is possible and that is what the LVM is for | 05:28 |
stweston_ | and how do I access LVM? | 05:28 |
keb | it can be installed using synaptic "lvm2" but then you have to read the howto document to use it | 05:31 |
stweston_ | hm... | 05:31 |
keb | er, thats not the command to install it | 05:31 |
stweston_ | any other alternatives? | 05:31 |
keb | well what i suggested above with mounting, will let you use the drive within your home directory as extra space | 05:32 |
stweston_ | okay | 05:32 |
keb | the tradeoffs are here http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/benefitsoflvmsmall.html | 05:33 |
knome | ok, good nig... day | 05:35 |
knome | -> | 05:35 |
keb | :D | 05:35 |
stweston_ | sweet! | 05:37 |
stweston_ | it actually mounted into the folder! | 05:37 |
stweston_ | now, how do I erase the disk? | 05:37 |
keb | are you sure your files are in there? | 05:38 |
stweston_ | I think so... | 05:38 |
stweston_ | well, how do I copy programs? | 05:38 |
stweston_ | such as OpenOffice.org? | 05:38 |
stweston_ | and from where? | 05:38 |
keb | you usually dont copy programs, you install them using synaptic | 05:38 |
stweston_ | okay. that works. | 05:38 |
stweston_ | then I'm good to go. | 05:38 |
keb | data is the only thing that needs to be copied | 05:38 |
stweston_ | okay. I didn't have any data in the first place, so... | 05:39 |
stweston_ | yeha. | 05:39 |
stweston_ | yeah* | 05:39 |
keb | what about your old /home folder in the other drive | 05:39 |
stweston_ | it has the other stuff. | 05:39 |
stweston_ | sorry - misunderstood. | 05:39 |
stweston_ | I didn't have anything important on my 2nd HDD. | 05:39 |
keb | ok | 05:40 |
stweston_ | so, just select all the folders and press delete? | 05:40 |
stweston_ | or what? | 05:40 |
stweston_ | all the folders in extraspace? | 05:40 |
keb | yep | 05:40 |
keb | make sure you are pointing to the right ones ;) | 05:40 |
keb | yes | 05:40 |
stweston_ | okay. | 05:40 |
stweston_ | hm... | 05:41 |
stweston_ | permission denied. | 05:41 |
keb | ok | 05:41 |
keb | open a terminal and type mount | 05:41 |
stweston_ | okay... | 05:41 |
keb | if it says read-only or ro next to that folder you will have to re-mount it | 05:42 |
stweston_ | yup. sdb1 shows up | 05:42 |
stweston_ | okay... | 05:42 |
stweston_ | it says rw, but it won't let me. | 05:42 |
stweston_ | won't let me write, I mean. | 05:42 |
keb | probly only root can erase it | 05:42 |
stweston_ | oh... | 05:42 |
stweston_ | so, then how do I do that in terminal? | 05:43 |
stweston_ | or do I need to reboot the system? | 05:43 |
keb | nope | 05:43 |
stweston_ | into the other one and then do some "unwanted" command? | 05:43 |
keb | did you mount it using sudo ? | 05:44 |
stweston_ | yes | 05:44 |
keb | ok then type sudo unmount /dev/sdb1 | 05:44 |
stweston_ | unmount: command not found | 05:45 |
stweston_ | and yes, I typed Sudo | 05:45 |
keb | and then mount it again using sudo mount -o user,rw /dev/sdb1 /home/stweston_/extraspace | 05:45 |
keb | oops umount | 05:45 |
stweston_ | okay. | 05:45 |
stweston_ | okay. done | 05:46 |
stweston_ | and it shows up, too. | 05:46 |
keb | excellent | 05:46 |
keb | now you might be able to delete stuff | 05:47 |
stweston_ | ^.^ | 05:47 |
stweston_ | how so? | 05:47 |
keb | either with the graphical file manager or with a command | 05:47 |
stweston_ | what command? | 05:47 |
keb | rm -rf /home/stweston_/extraspace/* | 05:48 |
stweston_ | wait... lemme try this first... | 05:48 |
stweston_ | permission denied all across the board. | 05:49 |
keb | oic | 05:49 |
stweston_ | add sudo? | 05:49 |
keb | sudo rm -rf /home/stweston_/extraspace/* | 05:49 |
stweston_ | gotcha | 05:49 |
keb | yep, but that is reserved for when you are sure you know what you are doing ;) | 05:49 |
stweston_ | okay... XD | 05:50 |
keb | because it can wipe out the whole system if you arent careful | 05:50 |
stweston_ | it's almost done... | 05:50 |
stweston_ | I was careful. | 05:50 |
keb | you could also have used gparted to format the drive from scratch, but i didnt know you wanted to do that at the time | 05:51 |
stweston_ | oh... | 05:51 |
stweston_ | well, it's all good | 05:51 |
keb | night | 05:54 |
stweston_ | 'night | 05:57 |
Seomah | hi all | 09:39 |
Seomah | anybody here? | 09:39 |
Look4Help | hi tehre... is anyone about? | 09:49 |
Seomah | i need help to change my screen res. to 1024 | 09:50 |
XaeroOne | Hi guys | 10:24 |
XaeroOne | I used the live cd of xubuntu 8.10 I am able to ping the computers in the lan and also view the modem config in the browser http://192.168.1.1 but not able to access any site. | 10:25 |
XaeroOne | Page not found error | 10:25 |
XaeroOne | any quickfixes | 10:25 |
XaeroOne | ? | 10:25 |
tingle | hi i would like to set a keyboard shortcut so i can maximize application i open but im not sure how i already looked in applications>settings manager>keyboard>shortcuts and then i added a new them but not sure how to add my shortcut | 11:16 |
tingle | nevermind i just found out there is a shortcut by default to maximize a window in xfce | 11:18 |
tingle | its alt+f5 if someone would like to know.. | 11:18 |
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boerni | in which package can I find the Programs k7burn k6burn etc? | 12:49 |
TheSheep | http://packages.ubuntu.com/ | 12:52 |
TheSheep | boerni: search there :) | 12:52 |
boerni | I already found it. cpuburn | 12:52 |
tingle | good for you :) | 12:52 |
boerni | I miss under xubuntu something like eix under gentoo. fast package searching | 12:54 |
tingle | boerni: apt-cache search <search> | 12:57 |
tingle | is java messy? i need java for a new application but i like my clean install xD | 12:58 |
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imanaligator2 | can anyone give me a tip of a easy to use ftp server with an easy gui | 14:05 |
vidd | ftp server with gui? or ftp client? | 14:06 |
vidd | imanaligator2, im not sure why you would even need a gui with an ftp server....but if it is the client you want with a gui, then try gftp | 14:07 |
imanaligator2 | no its the server, i would like to find one where i can easily set permissions, folders, create users etc. without having to touch a conf file | 14:09 |
imanaligator2 | i used serv-u for my windows iinstallation earlier, and that was very easy | 14:09 |
imanaligator2 | there i could set up virtual folders and such as well | 14:10 |
vidd | so why not get serv-u's linux version? | 14:12 |
vidd | nvmd | 14:13 |
vidd | imanaligator2, kproftpd looks like it might fit the bill | 14:15 |
vidd | http://www.howtoforge.com/proftpd_web_interface_gui_tools | 14:16 |
imanaligator2 | great, i'll have a look at that, thnx for the tip | 14:17 |
vidd | imanaligator2, ProMA might fit the bill as well... | 14:17 |
vidd | same page | 14:18 |
vidd | BTW, i found this link by googling "linux ftp server gui" | 14:19 |
vidd | it was the fourth link | 14:19 |
tingle | what java package do i need if i want to run on application on java? maybe this one? sun-java6-plugin | 14:21 |
vidd | sun-java6-plugin is for your browser.....but it will bring in -jre....which is what you need | 14:22 |
tingle | imanaligator2: pure-ftpd install it and you can login on your normal account and you can acces you home dir by default | 14:22 |
vidd | tingle, that is not what imanaligator2 wants | 14:23 |
vidd | he wants virtual hosting.... | 14:23 |
tingle | vidd: thats to bad.. | 14:23 |
tingle | vidd: how can i cli see what the package sun-java6-plugin holds? | 14:24 |
vidd | im sure there is a way..... | 14:24 |
tingle | yeah me too | 14:24 |
vidd | ive installed -plugin so many times on so many machines, i just KNOW what packages will come with it =] | 14:25 |
tingle | vidd: yeah no problem, i dont doubt your awnser | 14:25 |
tingle | vidd: just wondering so i can check package in the futhure whitout haveing to ask in #xubuntu or what ever | 14:26 |
vidd | but if you JUST want to run the apps (stand-alone, not in the browser) you want -jre (Java Run-time Environment) | 14:27 |
tingle | vidd: yeah i just installed it, it worked thanks | 14:27 |
tingle | vidd: the command i was looking for is apt-cache show packagename | 14:27 |
vidd | yeah....just found that too.... | 14:28 |
vidd | resistance is futile....google is your friend..... | 14:28 |
vidd | =] | 14:29 |
Seomah | hi all i need to change my screen resolution to 1024. Someone knows how? | 14:42 |
vidd | Seomah, is it listed in your settings manager? | 14:43 |
Seomah | i just can change it from 800x600 to below | 14:43 |
Seomah | i edited mu xorg.conf but didn't work | 14:43 |
vidd | sounds like your video card driver is not properly detected by HAL | 14:46 |
Seomah | i can't even find drivers for it in the web. it's an old sis 300/200 | 14:47 |
Seomah | there's a lot of post about this but all of them recommend editing the xorg.conf | 14:47 |
Seomah | wich i did but didn't work | 14:48 |
keb | sometimes the monitor isnt detected properly, expecially if you turn on the computer before the monitor | 14:49 |
vidd | did you ever get 1024x800 on windows with this card? | 14:49 |
Seomah | yes | 14:49 |
Seomah | with windows i didn't have any problem (of this kind) | 14:49 |
vidd | did you turn the monitor on b4 or after you booted? | 14:50 |
Seomah | mmm at the same time, maybe before | 14:50 |
vidd | did you see the Bios POST duruing boot? | 14:50 |
Seomah | can it be problem of the monitor and not of the graphics card? | 14:50 |
vidd | yes it can | 14:50 |
Seomah | yes i saw the post, i entered the bios to see if the card was woeking properly | 14:51 |
Seomah | *working | 14:51 |
vidd | hrm | 14:52 |
keb | in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log it might show which resolutions were rejected at bootup | 14:52 |
vidd | in terminal, run xrandr | 14:52 |
vidd | pastebin the results | 14:53 |
Seomah | it says maximum res. 800x600 | 14:53 |
vidd | !pastebin | 14:53 |
ubottu | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 14:53 |
Seomah | want to see it all? | 14:53 |
vidd | yes | 14:53 |
Seomah | 1 sec | 14:54 |
vidd | then pastebin the results of "lspci" | 14:55 |
Seomah | http://paste.ubuntu.com/93212/ | 14:55 |
Seomah | http://paste.ubuntu.com/93214/ | 14:56 |
Seomah | in xrandr the resolutions are the same as in display settings | 14:56 |
vidd | yeah....i see that | 14:57 |
Seomah | the graphic card is correct, is the one i have | 14:57 |
vidd | Seomah, have you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg yet? | 15:01 |
vidd | (as root) | 15:01 |
Seomah | not yet | 15:01 |
Seomah | do i make a sudo dpkg... | 15:02 |
Seomah | 1 sec | 15:02 |
vidd | if you do, try setting the video to "vesa" | 15:02 |
vidd | if "vesa" is auto-selected, see if you can find "Sis" | 15:02 |
vidd | btw...we know its a problem of the card and not the monitor =] | 15:03 |
vidd | Seomah, if these don fix you up, im out of ideas =\ | 15:04 |
Seomah | when i tipe that line it says actions in conflict -e and -r | 15:04 |
Seomah | are you sure of the spelling? | 15:04 |
keb | there is no space after dpkg | 15:05 |
vidd | Seomah, dpkg-reconfigure is one word...not two | 15:06 |
Seomah | 1 sec, I'm in | 15:06 |
Seomah | just browsing it | 15:06 |
vidd | (good...hes on a different machine =]) | 15:06 |
Seomah | me? | 15:07 |
Seomah | not | 15:07 |
Seomah | i'm in this one | 15:07 |
vidd | your talking to us on the machine that is having the issue? | 15:08 |
Seomah | just finished, it asked me lots of things about the keyboard and nothing about graphics - i think | 15:08 |
Seomah | i'm talking in the problematic machine - I just have one monitor here | 15:08 |
keb | yes they keyboard is handled in the same reconfiguration | 15:08 |
Seomah | the line bewteen | 15:08 |
keb | -y | 15:08 |
vidd | kbm switches FTW! | 15:08 |
Seomah | i'm going to retry | 15:09 |
vidd | *kVm hehe | 15:09 |
Seomah | nothing there about graphics | 15:10 |
Seomah | just the same, more about my keyboard | 15:11 |
Seomah | at least the keyboard keeps running fine :) | 15:12 |
vidd | dpkg-reconfigure --phigh xserver-xorg | 15:13 |
vidd | (might be -phigh) | 15:14 |
Seomah | ok | 15:14 |
Seomah | yes it's -phigh | 15:15 |
Seomah | it just showed that a backup file is done | 15:15 |
vidd | i mess that one up alot =] | 15:16 |
vidd | Seomah, delete the xorg.conf file and run "sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg" again | 15:19 |
Seomah | ok | 15:20 |
Seomah | argh just the same | 15:23 |
Seomah | questions about my keyboard and nothing about graphics | 15:23 |
vidd | well...my toolbox is now empty =\ | 15:23 |
Seomah | it's very annoying to have big letters and a small desktop | 15:24 |
Seomah | thank you for your time anyway vidd | 15:24 |
vidd | maybe you could splurge on a new used display adaptor =] | 15:25 |
Seomah | well the hardware is ok | 15:26 |
Seomah | maybe i just have to get used to this resolution | 15:26 |
Seomah | it's more the feeling of not being able to do this that gets me mad | 15:27 |
tingle | hehe i know what you mean Seomah | 15:27 |
tingle | have you tried googling for your awnser? | 15:27 |
Seomah | oh yes there's lots of people with this problem but I can't get it fixed | 15:28 |
Seomah | and I can't find a suitable driver for my card | 15:28 |
knome | Seomah, has there anybody with same problem/card solved it? | 15:29 |
Seomah | yes, some people edited their xorg.conf and added some video modes | 15:29 |
Seomah | i tried it but it doesn't work | 15:29 |
knome | Seomah, with the same card and everything? | 15:29 |
Seomah | my xorg keeps resetting | 15:30 |
vidd | Seomah, have you rebooted after you changed the video modes in xorg? | 15:30 |
Seomah | well not with the same card | 15:30 |
Seomah | yes i rebooted, first just the interface with ctr alt backspace, then again the whole pc | 15:30 |
vidd | when you set up the xorg, set the driver to "vesa" and add the resolutions | 15:31 |
Seomah | where should i add that line? in which section? | 15:31 |
vidd | one moment.... | 15:31 |
vidd | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/93229/ this is my xorg | 15:34 |
vidd | you will need line 69 and 71 to match the output from lspci | 15:35 |
vidd | line 70 is where you set the driver to vesa | 15:36 |
vidd | lines 81-89 will need some editing to properly match lspci output as well | 15:37 |
Seomah | i don't have line 71 as is | 15:39 |
vidd | are you looking at mine? or yours? | 15:39 |
Seomah | mine doesn't have any line with BusID | 15:39 |
vidd | so...add it | 15:40 |
Seomah | with the same values? | 15:40 |
vidd | the busID is from lspci | 15:40 |
vidd | what does your lspci say your card is again? | 15:41 |
Seomah | 01:03.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 300/305 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter (rev 90) | 15:42 |
Seomah | the bus ID is 01:03.0 ? | 15:42 |
vidd | no, PCI:1:3:0 | 15:43 |
Seomah | ok | 15:43 |
vidd | dont forget the quotes | 15:44 |
Seomah | ok the only thing different is in driver, i put "vesa" | 15:44 |
Seomah | is it ok? | 15:44 |
vidd | no.... | 15:45 |
Seomah | do i have to put sis also? | 15:45 |
vidd | your Identifier = "Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 300/305 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter" | 15:45 |
Seomah | yes i have that in the proper lines | 15:45 |
vidd | Driver = "vesa" | 15:46 |
Seomah | i mean that is different and the driver and the pci ID | 15:46 |
Seomah | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/93235/ | 15:46 |
vidd | yeah | 15:46 |
Seomah | that's my xorg now | 15:46 |
vidd | pfft...i see the issue..... | 15:47 |
vidd | drop line 5 | 15:47 |
vidd | line 5 says "disregaurd the settings here and get the settings from "FBDev" | 15:48 |
vidd | whatever that is =\ | 15:48 |
Seomah | oh well | 15:49 |
Seomah | i guess i'll try to reboot the X | 15:49 |
vidd | good luck...and give me aN UPDATE =] | 15:49 |
Seomah | i try it now and come back in 1 minute... if it works | 15:50 |
Seomah | if not, it will be more than 1 minute :D | 15:50 |
vidd | hehe | 15:50 |
Seomah | just to make sure... do i do ctrl+alt+backspace or reboot the whole pc? | 15:50 |
vidd | backspace | 15:50 |
Seomah | ok back in 1 min | 15:51 |
Seomah | pfft now i'm in 640x480 | 15:58 |
Seomah | at least i can see something | 15:58 |
Seomah | i think i'm switching back to the old copy of xorg at least for the moment | 15:59 |
Seomah | ok back to the start | 16:04 |
Seomah | are you there vidd? | 16:04 |
vidd | yeah | 16:05 |
Seomah | i think i surrender | 16:05 |
Seomah | i got back my original xorg and i don't have that option line | 16:05 |
vidd | remove the BusID as well | 16:06 |
vidd | and the (rev 90) | 16:07 |
Seomah | now i have an empty org. should i add again those lines from lspci? | 16:07 |
Seomah | 1 sec | 16:07 |
vidd | let me pastebin what you SHOULD have.... | 16:08 |
vidd | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/93266/ | 16:09 |
Seomah | this is my whole xorg now, the original of the system: # xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file) | 16:09 |
Seomah | # | 16:09 |
Seomah | # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using | 16:09 |
Seomah | # values from the debconf database. | 16:09 |
Seomah | # | 16:09 |
Seomah | # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page. | 16:09 |
Seomah | # (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.) | 16:09 |
Seomah | # | 16:09 |
Seomah | # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* | 16:09 |
Seomah | # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg | 16:09 |
vidd | HEY!!!!!! | 16:09 |
Seomah | # package. | 16:09 |
Seomah | # | 16:09 |
Seomah | # Note that some configuration settings that could be done previously | 16:10 |
Seomah | # in this file, now are automatically configured by the server and settings | 16:10 |
Seomah | # here are ignored. | 16:10 |
Seomah | # | 16:10 |
vidd | !pastebin | 16:10 |
ubottu | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 16:10 |
Seomah | i just typed too fast and without lookin - sorry | 16:11 |
TheSheep | happens | 16:11 |
vidd | lucky my xchat didnt crash =] | 16:11 |
TheSheep | vidd: yet :P | 16:12 |
Seomah | ok i'm editing the xorg again | 16:12 |
vidd | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/93266/ | 16:12 |
vidd | just copy/paste that | 16:12 |
Seomah | yes that's what i'm doing, going to reboot now | 16:14 |
Seomah | hi again | 16:16 |
vidd | any luck? | 16:17 |
Seomah | nothing good, my list of availabe resolutions is shorter | 16:17 |
Seomah | now is only 800x600 and 640x480 | 16:17 |
vidd | actually....that is GOOD news | 16:18 |
Seomah | uh? | 16:18 |
vidd | change the driver from "vesa" to "sis" | 16:18 |
Seomah | ok | 16:18 |
vidd | it tells us that the resolutions set in xorg are being looked at | 16:18 |
Seomah | ok rebooting | 16:21 |
vidd | and? | 16:23 |
Seomah | the same, just that the resolution list is the original, with more resolutions | 16:23 |
Seomah | maximum is 800x600 | 16:24 |
vidd | TheSheep, is there another "default" video module besides vesa? | 16:24 |
TheSheep | vga, it's even more pprimitive | 16:24 |
Seomah | now i have "sis" | 16:25 |
vidd | Seomah, set the device to "vga" | 16:25 |
TheSheep | I hate sis cards with a passion | 16:25 |
vidd | me too | 16:25 |
Seomah | i'd have to agree by now :D | 16:25 |
Seomah | i just noticed my xorg is being overwritten with ever reset | 16:25 |
Seomah | i don't have any line for drivers now | 16:26 |
Seomah | any change i do is erased and a new xorg is put in place | 16:26 |
vidd | pure evil | 16:27 |
Seomah | it's the evil elfs living in my pc | 16:27 |
Seomah | before the were just annoying but i think they got organized now | 16:28 |
vidd | Seomah, yeah...they unionized =] | 16:28 |
vidd | its HAL | 16:29 |
vidd | he's in the background, looking at your xorg and saying "Im sorry Dave, I just cant do that...." | 16:30 |
Seomah | :DDDDD | 16:30 |
vidd | lets try an experiment.... | 16:32 |
Seomah | i'm all for trying new things | 16:32 |
vidd | uninstall HAL (sudo apt-get remove hal) and set up your xorg | 16:33 |
vidd | use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to get keyboard and mouse set up | 16:34 |
vidd | otherwise, when you reboot, you wont have access to the keyboard and mouse in x | 16:35 |
Seomah | do you mean i can be left with no input? | 16:35 |
vidd | well...you would be able to [ctrl]+[alt]+[f1] into tty and access cli | 16:36 |
Seomah | ok going to try | 16:36 |
vidd | if all goes horribly wrong, reinstall hal | 16:37 |
vidd | or fire the evil elf union =] | 16:37 |
vidd | 9nvidia makes some cheep video cards....) | 16:38 |
Seomah | lol try to find a pci card now | 16:38 |
vidd | funny you should say that..... | 16:39 |
vidd | i just picked one up at WalMart 2 weeks ago | 16:39 |
vidd | my old card wasnt good enough for the new Command and Conquer games (only reason I have a windows machine) | 16:40 |
vidd | that old card is now sitting in a drawer collecting dust | 16:40 |
knome | ...c&c? | 16:41 |
knome | can't you run them under wine :P | 16:41 |
vidd | not the new ones | 16:41 |
knome | who wants the new ones | 16:41 |
knome | :)= | 16:41 |
roy_hobbs | What's the little circle button in the title bar of a window in XFCE? | 16:44 |
knome | roy_hobbs, sticky. | 16:45 |
The_Saker | Hi everybody | 16:45 |
knome | roy_hobbs, if it's enabled, the window will show up on all the workspaces | 16:45 |
roy_hobbs | ahh | 16:45 |
The_Saker | All my panels have dissappeared after I access some Russian website. how can I restore them? | 16:45 |
roy_hobbs | thanks - would never have figured that out because i don't use multiple workspaces | 16:46 |
knome | The_Saker, o.O : alt+f2 -> xfce4-panel | 16:47 |
knome | roy_hobbs, if you want, you can disable the icon | 16:48 |
The_Saker | knome: ok. let me try | 16:48 |
knome | roy_hobbs, (settings manager -> window manager -> "button layout" -> remove the second icon (tooltip: Stick)) | 16:49 |
The_Saker | knome: you are a pro!! thanks a lot, my panels are back! | 16:49 |
The_Saker | knome: you have any idea why my panels got shot while I was surfing? | 16:50 |
roy_hobbs | ah, thanks knome | 16:50 |
knome | The_Saker, not really. it is a known bug anyway that the panels disappear. | 16:50 |
roy_hobbs | Another question, how come the menu editor only displays a few of the items in my menu | 16:51 |
The_Saker | knome: anyway, thanks a lot for the help. man, I was really getting freaked out by this! thanks A LOT! | 16:51 |
knome | roy_hobbs, hmm? | 16:51 |
roy_hobbs | If I right click on "Applications" > Edit Menu it takes me to the menu editor | 16:52 |
knome | The_Saker, np | 16:52 |
The_Saker | bye everybody, thanks for being here! | 16:52 |
roy_hobbs | listed there are only 4 items | 16:52 |
knome | roy_hobbs, the "--- include ---" -item includes system menu | 16:52 |
roy_hobbs | ahh | 16:52 |
knome | roy_hobbs, built from .desktop files | 16:52 |
roy_hobbs | i see | 16:52 |
CaptNemo | Hmm, I thought there was a package I could grab with Synaptic called gtk-devel or something that would fetch the entire GTK development environment in one shot but I can't find it. | 17:01 |
TheSheep | gtk development environment? | 17:01 |
CaptNemo | Yeah, the libs and the widget designer and examples, and the whole bit. | 17:02 |
TheSheep | "the" widget designer? there are several... | 17:02 |
CaptNemo | I thought there was a shortcut package somewhere in Synaptic that would fetch the whole mess at once. | 17:02 |
TheSheep | and for which language? | 17:03 |
CaptNemo | It's difficult for a newb to know which packages to fetch. | 17:03 |
knome | CaptNemo, these "shortcut" packages are called meta packages, by the way. | 17:03 |
CaptNemo | C and/or C++ | 17:03 |
TheSheep | well, just grab any gtk tutorial and it will tell you what you need... | 17:03 |
CaptNemo | Ahh, good. Learn something every day. :) | 17:03 |
CaptNemo | Hmm, okay I'll do that. Thank you. | 17:03 |
TheSheep | CaptNemo: you want libgtk2.0-dev and libgtk2.0-doc | 17:04 |
TheSheep | CaptNemo: and either glade or gazpatcho | 17:04 |
TheSheep | devhelp is useful too | 17:04 |
CaptNemo | Cool. Ahh, I think I found what I had read about: libgtk2.0-dev | 17:05 |
TheSheep | it's not a meta package, it only contains the headers for the library | 17:05 |
Seomah | hi again - now I have a problem | 17:07 |
Seomah | how to reinstall Hal? | 17:08 |
Seomah | vidd, you there? | 17:08 |
TheSheep | I don't think reinstalling would help | 17:09 |
Seomah | i removed hal and i'm left with no input | 17:09 |
Seomah | neither my keyboard nor my mouse work now | 17:09 |
TheSheep | O.o | 17:09 |
Seomah | I'm here because i rebooted from my cd | 17:09 |
Seomah | obviously :D | 17:09 |
TheSheep | ok, chroot to your install and install hal back | 17:10 |
vidd | Seomah, [alt]+ctrl]+[f1] | 17:10 |
vidd | will get you into tty | 17:10 |
Seomah | yeah i can enter tty | 17:11 |
Seomah | then i do the apt get install hal | 17:11 |
vidd | once you are in tty, you dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 17:11 |
vidd | no.... | 17:11 |
Seomah | i tried but it doesn't work | 17:11 |
vidd | try fixing xorg first | 17:11 |
vidd | ah | 17:11 |
TheSheep | vidd: I thik the new xorg requires hal... | 17:12 |
TheSheep | not sure though | 17:12 |
vidd | TheSheep, no.... | 17:12 |
Seomah | the dkpg-reconfigure works apparently, but then i exit tty and the graphics are still | 17:12 |
Seomah | and it asks me for a date but i have no input | 17:13 |
vidd | Seomah, you need to restart x.... | 17:13 |
Seomah | i restarted the whole pc | 17:13 |
TheSheep | vidd: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#X.Org%20Input%20Devices | 17:13 |
vidd | in tty, run the reconfigure, then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart | 17:13 |
Seomah | ok trying it - it will be a long while | 17:16 |
CaptNemo | TheSheep, would you recommend glade or gazpatcho for a newb? | 17:23 |
keb | hmm. Xorg.0.log does not contain the record of attempted video resolutions anymore in 8.10 | 17:23 |
TheSheep | no idea, glade is longer around and has more tutorials... | 17:23 |
CaptNemo | TheSheep, True. I thought I read somewhere that glade is at the end of its life. | 17:24 |
TheSheep | nah, it's still kicking | 17:24 |
CaptNemo | haha | 17:24 |
CaptNemo | TheSheep, Well, it may still be kicking but I believe I read that it's old and not recommended for new development. If that's true then a newbie should not standardize on it. | 17:32 |
keb | brasero is not able to mount dvds created with iso9660 v3 | 17:50 |
keb | but the system can see them ok | 17:50 |
keb | Seomah did you see this page http://www.winischhofer.eu/linuxsispart1.shtml#24 | 18:54 |
Seomah | taking a look now tx keb | 18:56 |
vidd | hey.... wb Seomah | 18:57 |
Seomah | hi vidd | 18:58 |
Seomah | i had to reinstall the system, got stuck without keyboard or mouse | 18:59 |
sinbox | no need for those | 18:59 |
Seomah | :d | 19:00 |
Seomah | keb, that web just says to: Just place all modes you wish to use in the list of modes in the Screen-section of your XF86Config(-4)/xorg-conf | 19:01 |
keb | do you have a direct mental interface | 19:01 |
vidd | so when ya re-installed, did ya get the right resolutions? | 19:01 |
keb | Seomah pretty much, but it also gives conditions where it won't work regardless | 19:01 |
Seomah | mmm i have plenty of those thank you :D | 19:02 |
Seomah | it says it should work with 1024x800 | 19:02 |
Seomah | *768 | 19:02 |
sinbox | resolutions can be a pain | 19:03 |
* sinbox is worried by xorg.conf | 19:03 | |
nikolam | hi. I did something stupid: I did jigdo-lite jaunty-alternate-amd64.jigdo | 19:14 |
nikolam | to download new release and gave him DVD image to compare | 19:14 |
nikolam | But it is downlading and downloading and.. uhhh | 19:14 |
nikolam | here it is output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/93341/ | 19:15 |
nikolam | I think he is downloading same .iso over and over again.. | 19:16 |
nikolam | Should I delete all data it downloaded and just get an .iso over http, like before? | 19:16 |
nikolam | Or it is building a Dvd of a new release somehow? | 19:17 |
vidd | get the image over http or ftp | 19:18 |
nikolam | Co just to be clear. He was downloading same .iso like multiple times for no reason? | 19:18 |
keb | looks like it had the whole image already downloaded | 19:18 |
vidd | well...jaunty is the next release due out in april | 19:18 |
nikolam | Maybe it would behave if I was giving it CD image to compare instead of DVD? | 19:19 |
vidd | so no "official" support HERE for it | 19:19 |
* vidd does not use jigdo | 19:19 | |
nikolam | keb I see no image as it, It made dir of packages with 1.8GB data in it | 19:20 |
vidd | perhaps try bittorrent? | 19:20 |
nikolam | vidd It is not about release. It is about jigdo-lite .... | 19:20 |
nikolam | ok. Thank guys. I will figure it out. | 19:20 |
vidd | there is a "connection time out" | 19:21 |
vidd | this coulds be because you are trying to get an image that is being updated | 19:21 |
nikolam | vidd yes and after that it continues .. multiple times | 19:21 |
nikolam | ok ok. | 19:21 |
vidd | try it with a current release and see if you have the same issue' | 19:21 |
nikolam | I will download with wget next time and not try to play smart | 19:22 |
nikolam | ;,,,) | 19:22 |
vidd | hehe | 19:22 |
vidd | it could also be your ISP throttling your connection | 19:23 |
vidd | this is why i say "try with a version you know is not going to be getting changed halfway through the download" | 19:23 |
nikolam | vidd I think not, I have 78-79K Max, anyway. | 19:24 |
nikolam | I use 8.04 for myself | 19:24 |
vidd | did you get that via jigdo? | 19:25 |
nikolam | But I figured that after all problems with 8.10 After release I should do something about 9.04 | 19:25 |
nikolam | vidd, yea yea, dont mention jigdo anymore, argh ;) | 19:25 |
vidd | there were problems with 8.10? | 19:25 |
nikolam | vidd yup with that nasty CD/DVD opening bug. Maybe not fixed still | 19:26 |
vidd | hrm...havent heard of it | 19:26 |
nikolam | And I see many stupid bugs in 8.10 not happening in 8.04 | 19:26 |
nikolam | so to me 8.10 is regression. I am sticking to LTS | 19:27 |
nikolam | But I make new packages for it and also I would try to test 9.04 all the way to make shure it does not happen again with final | 19:27 |
vidd | the only thing i dont like about 8.10 is that recommends are installed by default | 19:28 |
nikolam | vidd, Whaaat? Recommends are-installed automatically???? | 19:28 |
vidd | destroys the whole "xubuntu is lighter then ubuntu" theory | 19:28 |
nikolam | vidd That is just braindead. I don`t like it at all | 19:29 |
nikolam | Is there a bug about that issue? | 19:29 |
vidd | its deliberate | 19:29 |
vidd | its a "feature" not a "bug" | 19:29 |
nikolam | Did anyone in Ubuntu was sayin why? | 19:29 |
vidd | "because Debian did it years ago" | 19:30 |
nikolam | Lets post a bug so that everyone see `wontfix` | 19:30 |
vidd | or along those lines | 19:30 |
nikolam | So when I install, like, gedit, synaptic pulld whole Gnome? ;,,) | 19:31 |
vidd | something like that | 19:31 |
vidd | probably will pull all of ubuntu in | 19:32 |
vidd | not just gnome | 19:32 |
nikolam | Aargh | 19:32 |
vidd | especially if someone had "ubuntu-desktop" as a recommend | 19:32 |
knome | nikolam, echo 'apt::Install-Recommends "0" ;' | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01ubuntu | 19:33 |
knome | nikolam, knome changed status as fixed | 19:33 |
vidd | i install cli-only and run the command knome just posted | 19:33 |
vidd | knome, that isnt a fix | 19:33 |
vidd | the issue remains | 19:33 |
knome | it is, for single user/installation ;> | 19:34 |
vidd | that is only a "work-around" | 19:34 |
knome | bah | 19:34 |
sinbox | I had never heard about RIMM until about 3 minutes ago | 19:35 |
sinbox | :/ | 19:35 |
vidd | nikolam, i dont think synaptic pulls recommends in (yet) | 19:35 |
vidd | but apt and aptitude do | 19:36 |
vidd | sinbox, rimm? | 19:36 |
sinbox | exactly what my thoughts were vidd : Rambus RDRAM memory | 19:37 |
sinbox | now I know why my friend got given that computer | 19:37 |
vidd | isnt that like "extinct ram"? | 19:38 |
sinbox | yep, it got extincted by the dinosaurs in fact | 19:40 |
vidd | not only did it have to be installed in pairs, but MATCHED pairs | 19:41 |
sinbox | I'm not even gonna start installing something on that machine waste of time, and he wouldn't have money to buy memory even if he could find some | 19:41 |
vidd | his board probably cant handle more ram | 19:42 |
nikolam | vidd I would expect that synaptic do and apt does not. uhh | 19:42 |
nikolam | sinbox, maybe you should search on ebay or something. Someone who doesn`t know what it is, like you could sell it chep :) | 19:44 |
vidd | nikolam, so far as I know, sysnaptic does not pull rules from apt.conf directory, but from an internal source | 19:44 |
nikolam | vidd anyway, those recommended packages install is no issue for us at LTS :) | 19:44 |
nikolam | For next.. few years :) | 19:45 |
sinbox | nikolam, I'll give it away on freecycle, some poor soul is bound to go for it thinking they're getting a great deal, just like my friend did. | 19:46 |
vidd | nikolam, anyone that still has RIMM (aka "hasnt sent those old relics to the scrap heap") know they have a gold mine (if their stuff still works) | 19:46 |
vidd | sinbox, you could probably hock the ram for more then he paid for it.... | 19:47 |
Seomah | vidd, I'm happy i solved the problem | 19:47 |
vidd | how much ram he got? | 19:47 |
vidd | Seomah, how? | 19:47 |
Seomah | if anyone has problems with the resolution ask me how | 19:47 |
sinbox | 128Mb of RAM on there: low end as it gets, and I am suposed to install XP for him so he can run cubase for his course | 19:48 |
Seomah | vidd, i had to add to lines to the xorg: the horizontal and vertical refresh rates | 19:48 |
Seomah | look my xorg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/93360/ | 19:48 |
sinbox | haha! I have resolution problems on my other box Seomah, so I might pick your brain. | 19:48 |
vidd | Seomah, well...yeah...so it knew what kind of monitor you have | 19:49 |
Seomah | it's lines 27 and 28 | 19:49 |
Seomah | you have to know the values, from the manual of the monitor | 19:49 |
stweston | how do I edit files within terminal? | 19:49 |
Seomah | at least for me it has worked | 19:49 |
stweston | such as, editing as root? | 19:49 |
nikolam | stweston, with nano command. ctrl-x for exit, it asks to save it | 19:50 |
stweston | gotcha | 19:50 |
vidd | Seomah, yeah...that is in my xorg that i showed ya b4 | 19:50 |
Seomah | stweston, the easier thing for me is sudo mousepad name_of_file | 19:50 |
nikolam | stweston, sudo nano /path/file | 19:50 |
stweston | gotcha | 19:50 |
Seomah | vidd, but if i put something more it doesn't work | 19:50 |
Seomah | vidd, it has to be just those two lines | 19:51 |
stweston | now, how do I make it so that the disc this links to always loads on boot? | 19:51 |
nikolam | Seomah, What graphic card you have? look with lspci | 19:51 |
stweston | er... on login? | 19:51 |
Seomah | nikolam, i have a sis 300/305 - but now i solved my problem | 19:51 |
vidd | nikolam, he has an achient SIS card | 19:51 |
nikolam | ok :) | 19:52 |
Seomah | ancient is a nice way to say it :D | 19:52 |
nikolam | Im my natural language, SIS means TIT :) | 19:52 |
Seomah | crappy old is another | 19:52 |
vidd | Seomah, get you a post-it or something and attach those lines to the monitor | 19:52 |
vidd | in case you need them again =] | 19:52 |
Seomah | :DDD | 19:52 |
Seomah | i found a post about that, but had to take out some lines | 19:53 |
stweston | hello? I'm trying to mount /dev/sdb1 on startup. is it possible by editing a file? | 19:53 |
vidd | nikolam, where ya from? west verginia? | 19:53 |
nikolam | vidd :)) Nope, Europe, Serbia | 19:53 |
vidd | stweston, yes, /etc/fstab | 19:54 |
stweston | okay. thanks... I think. | 19:54 |
stweston | so, then... "sudo mousepad /etc/fstab"? | 19:54 |
vidd | nikolam, here in america, "sis" is a nickname for "sister" | 19:54 |
nikolam | stweston, or gksu mousepad :) | 19:54 |
stweston | okay. | 19:54 |
Seomah | in case you want to read it (and know spanish :D ): http://aprendiendoateclear.wordpress.com/2007/03/18/resolucion-de-pantalla-en-ubuntu-kubuntu-y-xubuntu/ | 19:54 |
nikolam | vidd yes yes, I know :) | 19:55 |
vidd | so you see my point yet? | 19:55 |
Seomah | ok now, after 10 hours i can change my resolution. Now to connect to the lan :DD | 19:55 |
nikolam | Seomah, Ahh, don`t know spanish, shame on me :) | 19:55 |
Seomah | the important thing is the code at the half | 19:55 |
vidd | Seomah, that should be rather painless (unless of course ya mean wifi) | 19:56 |
Seomah | vidd, i just took off the "Option DPMS" and it worked | 19:56 |
nikolam | Seomah, please include exact monitor model/type so that someone could find it when searching with keywords on google.com | 19:56 |
Seomah | vidd, i don't know, but i want to have a remote desktop between my xubuntu and a windows XP | 19:56 |
stweston | okay... so I've been working on editing fstab just now so that I can mount /dev/sdb1 on boot... tell me if this is right: | 19:57 |
nikolam | Seomah, To use Xp desktop on ubuntu or vice versa | 19:57 |
stweston | /dev/sdb1/home/stweston/extraspaceautonone00 | 19:57 |
vidd | to linux from window, windows to linux, or both? | 19:57 |
Seomah | my monitor is a Samsung SyncMaster 710N, and my graphics card is a SiS 300/305 | 19:57 |
Seomah | vidd, both | 19:57 |
Seomah | vidd, master would be windows | 19:57 |
vidd | Seomah, linux has vncviewer built in by default.... | 19:58 |
stweston | anyone see problems? | 19:58 |
nikolam | Seomah, I think you have rdp client included in xubuntu default install | 19:58 |
Seomah | the idea is having linux running in the old pc without monitor or keyboard and accesing from the new pc | 19:58 |
vidd | so go to your M$ machine and install a vnc server | 19:58 |
sinbox | I see problems everywhere: they think they're ok. | 19:58 |
nikolam | Seomah, I was thinking, put that monitor info on your blog | 19:58 |
stweston | XD | 19:59 |
sinbox | sorry stweston I know nothing about fstab :) | 19:59 |
stweston | okay. 's fine | 19:59 |
Seomah | nikolam, ahh i thought but that is not my blog sorry | 19:59 |
stweston | well, I think I've put in the right properties; if not, I'm assuming it will let me know. | 19:59 |
sinbox | have you made a backup of your stab before editing it though stweston ? | 19:59 |
stweston | no, I haven't. | 19:59 |
stweston | should I? | 20:00 |
sinbox | fstab* | 20:00 |
vidd | stweston, ALWAYS | 20:00 |
stweston | gotcha. thanks | 20:00 |
sinbox | always a good idea when editing files to make a backup first, then again I have a very short memory | 20:00 |
stweston | for the tip, I mean. | 20:00 |
Seomah | ok time for me to have dinner here | 20:00 |
Seomah | vidd, thanks so much for your help today | 20:00 |
vidd | as much of a help as i was.... | 20:01 |
Seomah | and to all the others | 20:01 |
vidd | =] | 20:01 |
Seomah | cya :) | 20:01 |
nikolam | Seomah, 710N can do 30-81 horizontal and 56-75 vertical | 20:01 |
nikolam | Ok, I got ot go now, Cu l8r all :) bye vidd | 20:03 |
asdf- | can someone point me to information regarding xubuntu's security with the default install? | 20:03 |
asdf- | i can't find anything at the main website | 20:03 |
nikolam | asdf use Firestarter firewall, it is easy to mantain. Also set root password and secure grub . Look at help.ubuntu.com | 20:04 |
asdf- | nikolam, thank you | 20:04 |
sinbox | I thought there was no root in *ubuntu? | 20:04 |
asdf- | so xubuntu needs extra configuration before it is ready to be connected to the net? | 20:05 |
nikolam | Every *nix have root. In Ubuntu root have no password to you can`t use it, and that is ok. But i think it is wise to set it. | 20:05 |
sinbox | it's fine on a vanilla install asdf | 20:06 |
sinbox | then again my sendmail seems to be using a lot of CPU when I never use it | 20:07 |
asdf- | thank you | 20:07 |
nikolam | asdf great thing about *buntu is that it does not install any services by default. Desktop distro. | 20:08 |
stweston | what command do I use to browse files in the file manager (such as Thunar)? | 20:22 |
stweston | nevermind! I found it! ^/^ | 20:24 |
CaptNemo | command? not sure I understand the question. | 20:24 |
stweston | found it. sorry | 20:24 |
stweston | well, I meant what terminal command could I use to open up thunar to a mounted device. | 20:25 |
CaptNemo | ahh | 20:25 |
CaptNemo | thunar | 20:25 |
CaptNemo | lol | 20:25 |
stweston | yes | 20:25 |
CaptNemo | or sudo thunar if you want root privileges while browsing. | 20:25 |
stweston | yes. thank you | 20:25 |
CaptNemo | yw | 20:26 |
stweston | I don't think I want any sudo access to this particular file, though. | 20:26 |
stweston | it's a 2nd HDD | 20:26 |
CaptNemo | yeah, best to not use root unless you have a real need. but if you want to use thunar to change file permissions and such then you have to be root. | 20:26 |
CaptNemo | (If you're messing around with the system) | 20:27 |
asdf- | anyone have a tutorial for getting wifi up and running on xubuntu? info on ubuntuforums.com requires ndiswrapper which is not installed | 20:27 |
CaptNemo | what version of xubuntu? | 20:28 |
asdf- | 8.10 | 20:28 |
CaptNemo | hmm, I just use the built-in network manager | 20:28 |
CaptNemo | It handles wired, the built-in WiFi, and my external 3.5G modem. | 20:29 |
nikolam | I use wicd instead of Network manager. It is nice and won`t connet if i don`t want to | 20:29 |
asdf- | under Applications -> Network ... there is no Network Manager or WICD | 20:29 |
sinbox | vidd you around?depends on your wifi adaptor really asdf: it can be quite frustrating | 20:29 |
CaptNemo | Yeah, wicd is very popular. I'm considering switching because I would like to run a script when a connection is established and wicd has that ability. | 20:30 |
sinbox | oopss mixed my lines | 20:30 |
nikolam | asdf-, System , under System | 20:30 |
nikolam | there is wicd in packages.ubuntu.com | 20:30 |
asdf- | nikolam, not listed | 20:30 |
CaptNemo | Altho it seems that Network Manager can also run up/down scripts but I have not figured out how yet. | 20:30 |
asdf- | i am wondering if i missed something during the xubuntu setup | 20:31 |
nikolam | asdf-, System>Network | 20:31 |
asdf- | nikolam, not there | 20:31 |
asdf- | goes Language SUpport and then Services | 20:31 |
sinbox | do you know what is your wireless adaptor asdf- ? | 20:31 |
asdf- | no Network | 20:31 |
nikolam | asdf-, use lspci to see what PCI wireless card you have | 20:32 |
asdf- | ath0 or wifi0 | 20:32 |
asdf- | Atheros Communications | 20:32 |
sinbox | I meant what brand & chipset | 20:32 |
sinbox | ah ok | 20:32 |
sinbox | I think you might need ndiswrapper for atheros, but it depends on which one it is maybe | 20:33 |
nikolam | asdf-, Now you search how is supported. | 20:33 |
asdf- | yes, ndiswrapper is not installed by default on xubuntu? | 20:33 |
sinbox | well there are a hell of a lot of wifi adapters that don't need it asdf- so no it's not | 20:34 |
asdf- | if i don't have an internet connection on my newly installed xubuntu computer... can i install applications from the setup CD? | 20:44 |
asdf- | applications that listed in Add/Remove | 20:44 |
asdf- | maybe i'm not logged in under a user with permission to access network manager | 20:47 |
asdf- | is that a possible reason why i am not seeing any of the tools outlined in ubuntu.com tutorials? | 20:48 |
sinbox | possibly, and yes you can install anything from the CD if you add it to your sources list | 20:49 |
sinbox | as long as it's on it obviously | 20:49 |
asdf- | ok... makes sense... now once i type 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' how do i add the CD to the list? | 20:50 |
stweston | how do I reload the XFCE panel? | 20:51 |
stweston | I have Terminal open. | 20:51 |
asdf- | startx | 20:51 |
stweston | gotcha | 20:51 |
arualavi | xfce4-panel ? | 20:52 |
asdf- | sinbox, any idea how to install packages from the installation CD? | 20:53 |
asdf- | it says my wifi card is activated and working | 20:54 |
asdf- | but network manager is not install | 20:54 |
root | now, how do I stop a certain "infinite loop" in opening Thunar? | 20:55 |
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arualavi | asdf-, in Software sources, add CD-ROM under Third-Party Software tab | 20:56 |
stweston | how do I stop an infinite loop from happening from opening a mounted device in Thunar whenever I start up? | 20:56 |
asdf- | arualavi, thank you | 20:56 |
stweston | I think it's a problem w/ fstab, but I don't know why. | 20:56 |
stweston | I edited it to take it out, but it still happens. | 20:57 |
stweston | er... I reverted it back. | 20:57 |
stweston | also, how do I switch from root to my normal user? this weird stuff hasn't happened to me before. | 20:58 |
asdf- | how do i get the Administration folder under the Applications->System to appear? | 21:09 |
sinbox | which Administration folder asdf- ? | 21:17 |
* sinbox goes to fire xubuntu box | 21:17 | |
asdf- | i'm following a wifi tutorial and it points to Network Manager in the Applications drop down box | 21:20 |
asdf- | but i guess i have to modify the directory myself | 21:20 |
asdf- | but my wifi card was detected when i relogged back in | 21:20 |
sinbox | k gimme a minute xubuntu is loading on the other machine now | 21:21 |
asdf- | thanks | 21:22 |
keb | on xubuntu 8.10 and later, network manager is in the taskbar, it looks like two comps | 21:23 |
asdf- | ok... thank you! | 21:23 |
bad-wire | I don't have an admin folder in Applications>system asdf- , but I have Network, which opens the network settings window | 21:24 |
keb | i uninstalled it because i have static ip addresses :/ | 21:24 |
bad-wire | I'm on 8.04 though | 21:24 |
bad-wire | not 8.10 | 21:24 |
asdf- | bad-wire, i don't have Network | 21:24 |
asdf- | i am on 8.10 | 21:24 |
asdf- | but the info keb gave me is good enough... it's in the taskbar | 21:25 |
bad-wire | there you go then :) | 21:25 |
keb | do you see it | 21:25 |
asdf- | yes, i appreciate the help | 21:25 |
keb | great | 21:26 |
redwyrm | what is the default screensaver? | 21:41 |
redwyrm | it stopped being used as soon as I installed xscreensaver, then I uninstalled that because it was freezing the computer. After uninstalling, I didn't have an xflock4 command anymore; it said to install xlockmore, which definitely isn't the default screensaver | 21:43 |
* sinbox didn't know there was one | 21:43 | |
redwyrm | sinbox, it just blanks the screen by default (when I lock the screen) | 21:44 |
sinbox | ah yes, mine does that too, I thought you meant some moving thingy like on windoze | 21:44 |
redwyrm | when you move the mouse, it displays a GTK box for typing in the password... also has a switch-user button | 21:44 |
redwyrm | do you know what command it is? | 21:45 |
redwyrm | or what package I should install? | 21:45 |
mioso | i just installed ubuntu & noticed a bug , when i right clic eject a disc the disc pops out & pops back in immediatly | 21:45 |
keb | mioso that is a known bug, see the 8.10 release notes | 21:46 |
sinbox | sorry redwyrm no idea on that from me, maybe someone in #ubuntu could tell you if no one here can | 21:48 |
redwyrm | hmmm... I don't know if the same screen locker is used in regular Ubuntu | 21:48 |
redwyrm | worth a try I guess | 21:48 |
mioso | i reinstalled beacause i had gnome's desktop - themes - apperances messing up with xfce's , i can't rember if this happened after system update + why is gnome-games-extra a suggested update ? | 21:49 |
keb | suggested carries less force than recommended | 21:50 |
mioso | so installing updtaes won't mess up the windows handeling ? | 21:51 |
sinbox | you could just have got rid of all the gnome bits instead mioso no? | 21:52 |
mioso | i tried then booting went onto console | 21:53 |
danopia | redwyrm, you using xscreensaver? | 21:54 |
mioso | when choosing a bakground picture a file manager window appears but CTRL+1-2-3 doesn't effect files visualisation | 21:54 |
redwyrm | danopia, for a while, I was... but that locks up my screen when I start typing my password, sometimes | 21:56 |
danopia | redwyrm, oh | 21:56 |
redwyrm | before I installed xscreensaver, I had a different screen locking program | 21:56 |
danopia | i htink gnome-screensaver is hte default one | 21:56 |
redwyrm | ohhh | 21:56 |
redwyrm | thank you, danopia | 21:57 |
danopia | something like taht | 21:57 |
danopia | i'm not sure | 21:57 |
danopia | i use xscreensaver | 21:57 |
redwyrm | I'll try that | 21:57 |
danopia | lol | 21:57 |
danopia | i could boot a livecd insdie a VM and look | 21:57 |
redwyrm | sure.... if you have time | 21:57 |
redwyrm | never mind | 21:58 |
danopia | tell me if gnome-screensaver isn't it | 21:58 |
redwyrm | gnome-screensaver is it | 21:58 |
danopia | ok | 21:58 |
danopia | good | 21:58 |
mioso | when i resinstalled the partition with my files & os was moved to another partition | 21:59 |
mioso | how can i read them from the new one, copy & delete the former partition | 22:00 |
redwyrm | sudo fdisk /dev/sda, then hit p <enter>, then q <enter>.... this will give you a list of partitions on your hard disk | 22:01 |
redwyrm | is it a linux partition, or windows? | 22:02 |
mioso | xubuntu partition | 22:02 |
redwyrm | okay, then it should say "Linux" under the System column | 22:02 |
mioso | did sudo fdisk /dev/sda/ then it shows : cylinder are size 19546, larger than 1024 | 22:04 |
mioso | the command is : sudo fdisk -l | 22:06 |
mioso | to show the list of disks | 22:07 |
redwyrm | mioso, the greater than 1024 thing is normal | 22:08 |
mioso | so fdisk -l shows 5 partitions | 22:08 |
mioso | 2 swap 2 linux 1 extended | 22:09 |
redwyrm | well, the one that is Linux and not your root partition should be the one | 22:09 |
mioso | so i mount it with gparted ? | 22:11 |
redwyrm | like, on my system, the root partition is /dev/sda5 because that's what "df /" says | 22:11 |
redwyrm | mioso, no | 22:11 |
redwyrm | sudo mount /dev/partition /mnt/old_disk | 22:11 |
redwyrm | where /mnt/old_disk is a directory you created | 22:12 |
redwyrm | and /dev/partition is the partition from your other linux installation | 22:12 |
mioso | the linux are /dev/sda1 & /dev/sda6 here | 22:12 |
redwyrm | which one is your current root partition? | 22:12 |
mioso | the one with * : 1 so i mount 6 | 22:12 |
redwyrm | okay | 22:12 |
redwyrm | sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/old_disk | 22:13 |
redwyrm | then all the files from your old installation should appear in /mnt/old_disk | 22:15 |
mioso | so the partition with files was sda1 altough it had a * star beside | 22:15 |
mioso | & thanks to you i successfully mounted the partition after a #$ sudo mkdir /mnt/old_disk | 22:16 |
redwyrm | great | 22:17 |
redwyrm | I'll be back later | 22:18 |
mioso | i can delete the partition with fdisk i suppose , enjoy the break | 22:19 |
mioso | sometimes the onboard speaker makes a beep | 22:39 |
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