[00:12] how do i get xubuntu to work with my wireless card? [00:13] pray moof [00:13] But really [00:14] My intenal adapter on my laptop was picked up and turned on autoMAGICALLY by xubuntu. [00:14] with windows I have to manually press a button on the laptop to get it to turn on. [00:15] supposedly my wireless card is compatible with xubuntu, (have the drivers and everything) but xubuntu sees things another way i guess. [00:16] wifi-radar keeps telling me that i actually don't have a wireless card. [00:20] hmmm [00:20] I have not idea moof_ [00:20] I am just glad that mine works. [00:20] I use wicd Becasue I read somewhere on some page that it was better then nm-applet [00:20] what is wifi-radar? [00:21] Well that worked fine in the previous version of xubuntu before I upgraded to 8.04 [00:21] Shaba1, for most people, nm-applet should work ok. honestly. [00:21] Now it works but I do not get a icon for signal strength on my status bar/panel [00:21] i know many people disliking it for several reasons, starting from some decisions made by the developers on how to make it "better" [00:21] I think its a programming error with wicd though [00:22] but that's offtopic already [00:22] true knome [00:30] honestly i'm a total linux newbie, i'm sort of looking for a windows-esque wireless network utility. [00:30] moof_, what's wrong with nm-applet? [00:31] it's quite straightforward [00:31] ok, i'll install nm-applet [00:31] i'll be right back with the results [00:31] it should be installed by default in xubuntu [00:31] and running [00:32] run program nm-applet? [00:32] yep. [00:32] then you should have an icon in the system tray [00:33] when i run nm-applet nothing happens. [00:34] do you have system tray in your panel? [00:34] all i have is applications and places [00:34] if i'm understanding your question right [00:34] ok, add system tray [00:35] it says that i already have system tray but i don't see it. [00:35] hmm. [00:35] an icon with two monitors? [00:36] ah, yes. [00:36] it is nm-applet [00:36] wired network connection [00:36] yes. [00:36] yep i have that [00:36] sorry for my ineptitude [00:36] nm-applet doesn't want to connect with wifi if you have wired connection [00:37] but once disconnected, see what happens if you left-click the icon [00:37] or you could click it now [00:37] ok, so disconnect from my network? [00:37] basically you should do that, yes [00:38] actually eh [00:38] nope [00:38] looks like they've patched this [00:38] now you can connect to wired *and* wifi [00:38] well i just disconnected. [00:38] what now? [00:38] if you left-click the icon, you should see a list of available networks [00:39] left click vpn connections, configure vpn? [00:39] nope. [00:39] there should be a list [00:39] all i have is "wired network" and that's it. [00:39] no, none. [00:39] if you right-click, is wireless enabled? [00:39] if i right click all i have is a checkbox for "enable networking" and "edit connections" [00:40] ok. [00:40] you used ndiswrapper, right? [00:40] no, i already have a driver for my wireless card installed [00:40] how? [00:40] i didn't think ndiswrapper would be necesary [00:41] (and what is the carD) [00:42] atheros 802.11 [00:43] how did you set up the drivers? [00:44] applications > system > hardware drivers [00:45] when i selected it that was the only driver i had on my system. [00:45] which driver is it? [00:45] also i installed hostapd and madwofi-tools [00:45] madwifi-tools [00:45] * [00:46] "support for Atheros 802.11 wireless LAN cards. [00:46] and "Support for 5xxx series of Atheros 802.11 wireless LAN cards" [00:47] moof_, what output does 'iwconfig' give in terminal? [00:48] every one says "no wireless extensions." [00:48] ok, so somehow it is not recognised [00:48] did you boot after installing the drivers? [00:48] not immediately afterwards but i did about an hour after installation. [00:49] yeah ok [00:49] just out of curiosity how would i find out my wireless card again? [00:50] 'lspci' / 'lshw' [00:51] yep it's the atheros [00:51] can you paste the complete card name/model [00:52] "01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01) [00:55] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766169 [00:55] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=863777 [00:55] have you read those through? [00:58] what's the xubuntu equivalent of the "system" menu? [00:59] like i said, all i have is applications and places. [01:00] moof_, applications -> system [01:02] can i just sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper? [01:02] i have no experiences on ndiswrapper and don't know if it would help. [01:02] just had a quick look on the forums [01:02] yeah you're probably right. after all it says i DO have the driver. [01:03] i can't see how ndiswrapper could help me with this. [01:09] if it helps i'm using an Eee PC, however i'm not using the modified Eee xubuntu. [01:11] Ok I cannot help [01:11] but what is Eee PC? [01:12] moof_, a-ha! [01:12] moof_, see this: http://array.org/ubuntu/ [01:13] moof_, afaik, the 2.6.27- series doesn't work. might as well. i'm running 2.6.24- on my eeepc on intrepid. [01:14] Shaba1, it is a small pc. [01:14] sorry i'm dense, what exactly does that mean i have to do? [01:14] Shaba1, http://array.org/ubuntu/ [01:15] huh? [01:15] moof_, add the repository(-ies) to your ubuntu installation and install the eeepc-kernel packages [01:15] What was that knome [01:15] Shaba1, wrong link. ;) right one: http://eeepc.asus.com/global/index.html [01:15] was that about my panel icon issue [01:15] oh ok [01:15] that is eeepc. [01:15] I just wanted to know what it was [01:16] Shaba1, what was your panel icon issue? :) [01:19] Hi, I was thinking about installing xubuntu, and tried running it using the disc before installation, and I'm stuck at a command prompt, should I reset and try again, or try the command to start up the desktop(which I forgot)? [01:19] squeee, this might be a known bug or some problems. [01:19] squeee, "startx" [01:21] "xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server" and errno 3 [01:34] alright, let's see (hope) this works :( [01:36] dang, no dice [01:36] that should've worked [02:01] the wicd icon does not show up in that top panel [02:01] althougth Iknow the program is working since I can get online [02:03] Shaba1, ah, that one.. [02:12] yep that one [02:12] I will figure it out [02:12] it does not matter since the program still works [02:12] but i just like to have things the way they were suppose to be [02:13] sure [02:14] ok knome i installed the eeepc custom kernel from the site you gave me. [02:14] now wifi-radar and other wifi based applications should work? [02:14] moof_, when you boot, make sure the eeepc-kernel is selected in grub [02:14] after that - they should [02:14] yep i got that [02:15] "no wifi-device found. exiting." [02:15] christ. [02:15] which kernel did you select? [02:15] /you have [02:15] the eeepc kernel [02:16] which kernel version number? ;) [02:16] dunno, let me restart [02:16] no! [02:16] :) [02:16] 'uname -a' in terminal [02:16] or 'uname -r' for the kernel revision only [02:17] linux ubuntu 2.6.27-8-eeepc [02:17] ok [02:17] try to add the hardy repository [02:17] and install 2.6.24-* [02:17] and use that [02:18] so you want me to install hardy? [02:18] because i was using intrepid before. [02:18] nope [02:18] just add the hardy repository [02:18] how do i do that? [02:18] sorry.. hah [02:18] like you added the intrepid one [02:18] ;) [02:18] ok. [02:19] so you want me to add the hardy kernel? [02:19] yes, that is what i'm doing [02:19] will that still be compatible with my computer [02:19] if everything else is intreped [02:19] should. if not, just choose other kernel in grub. :) [02:19] alright, i'll try it. [02:19] thanks for all of your help by the way [02:19] it works for me so i'm relatively sure it's ok [02:19] be right back. [02:19] np [02:21] http://array.org/ubuntu/setup-hardy.html [02:21] do i need to follow all of the instructions are only down to the download eeepc kernel? [02:21] or* [02:21] let me have a look [02:22] suppose you could just D/L the kernel here: http://array.org/ubuntu/setup-hardy-alt.html [02:22] and install the deb package [02:22] but just adding the repository and installing the package is also ok [02:23] you get the same result, basically [02:24] why would a the load avg of my laptop be in the 5's ? [02:24] sikun, you're running some cpu consuming processes? [02:25] or your cpu sucks [02:25] ;) [02:25] oh hell.. i just got this laptop.. it overheats [02:25] runs like a POS [02:25] i'm about ready to throw it out a window [02:25] sikun, you can see 'top', 'htop' or 'powertop' (you might need to install the latter two) [02:26] ye [02:26] ok so knome [02:26] moof_, yes? [02:27] i'm going to be right back with the results [02:27] (hopefully) [02:27] so don't go anywhere [02:27] sure. i will be here. [02:35] So I used the CD self scan and it said it found errors in 18 files, is that a problem with the .iso? [02:35] squeee, or the burning process. [02:36] Well, I was hoping that there was a confirmed problem with the iso because I can't do much about the burning [02:37] did you check the checksums [02:37] Don't know how [02:37] !checksum [02:37] Sorry, I don't know anything about checksum [02:38] squeee, you need to check it in windows? [02:39] What am I checking? The iso? [02:39] squeee, the checksum. do you have ubuntu installed somewhere or do you need to check it in windows? [02:39] squeee, and yes, the is [02:39] o [02:39] Then I need to do it in windows [02:39] http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/iso#checksum [02:40] squeee, see that ^ [02:43] I'm running Vista, I don't have that directory [02:43] hey [02:43] moof_, hello. it works or not? [02:44] knome when i try to install it it just says that the new version of intrepid is up to date [02:44] a-ha.. [02:44] i did everything in the instructions. [02:44] but i did notice that the commands for installing both would be the same [02:46] so you went from synaptic? [02:47] moof_, ^ ...or? [02:47] sorry, synaptic? [02:47] basically you *should* be able to install several kernel versions with *no* problem [02:48] moof_, how did you try to install the package? D/Ld it and double clicked? [02:48] i followed the instructions on the site you showed me [02:49] http://array.org/ubuntu/setup-hardy-alt.html - this one? [02:49] yeah. [02:49] so at which point did you get that output? [02:50] after sudo apt-get install linux-eeepc [02:51] ah. [02:51] you should already have the older kernel [02:51] you only needed the first 7 steps [02:51] i should've been more verbose :) [02:52] in grub, do you see the 2.6.24-* kernel? [02:52] i can reboot and check? [02:53] sure. [02:53] k, rebooting. [02:55] all i get in grub are 2.6.27-9-generic and recovery 27-9-eeepc and recovery and 27-7-generic and recovery [02:55] and memtest86+ [02:56] hmm.. [02:56] apps -> system -> synaptic [02:57] search for "linux-image". what gives? [02:57] (you should see 2.6.24-* as installed) [02:57] should i boot in the eeepc kernel? [02:57] not necessary. [02:58] well i need to boot in something [02:58] nope. [02:58] just go to synaptic and search [03:00] what am i searching in synaptic? [03:00] 'linux-image' [03:00] ok searched [03:00] top i have linux-image-debug-386 [03:00] linux-image [03:01] moblin-image-creator [03:01] etc [03:01] yeah. anything which has something to do with 2.6.24 ? :) [03:03] no [03:03] jumps from 2.6.25 to 2.6.23 [03:03] ok, do you have the .deb packages still somewhere [03:03] (on the eeepc) [03:04] how would i go about finding that out? [03:04] (sorry for noobish-ness once again) [03:04] you downloaded them from that page? and saved to somewhere, right? [03:05] (most possibly ~/Desktop, where ~ is /home/yourusername) [03:05] no, i never downloaded anything from the page [03:05] a-ha! [03:05] i just used the terminal [03:05] ok, you need the packages [03:05] Download, step 2. [03:06] oh wow. [03:06] http://array.org/ubuntu/setup-hardy-alt.html [03:06] and then with terminal, proceed to the directory with them [03:06] so do everything on that page? [03:07] and supply command at 5. [03:07] that's what you need. [03:07] 2. and 5. [03:07] basically. [03:07] just forget everything else [03:07] alright [03:07] i'll let you know what happens [03:07] brb [03:07] and then just boot and look for the 2.6.24-* kernel in grub [03:09] is it necessary to put the file it requested i download on a flash drive? [03:09] no. [03:09] just put it *anywhere* [03:09] ok, so just download it? [03:09] yes. [03:12] ok, it's all downloaded [03:12] now sudo dpkg -i linux-image*.deb linux-ubuntu-modules*.deb ? [03:13] yes, in the dir the files are [03:15] ok i know this is going to piss you off, and i'm sorry, but the files i downloaded are on the desktop. how do i go to that location? [03:15] i really am a newbie. [03:15] haha [03:15] in terminal, just type 'cd Desktop' (note the casing) [03:16] ok, thanks [03:16] :) [03:16] ok it's running. [03:16] be back after restart [03:17] yeah. [03:18] still no 2.6.24 in grub [03:19] is that indicative of anything? [03:19] really? [03:19] hmm. [03:19] maybe try again and paste the output of dpkg in ... [03:19] !pastebin [03:19] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [03:19] ok [03:25] i use xubuntu on my main computer i do not use windows is that safe [03:26] http://paste.ubuntu.com/93020 [03:26] a-ha! [03:27] hmm? [03:27] moof_, maybe try dpkg -i linux-image*.deb [03:27] moof_, and then linux-ubuntu-modules-*.deb [03:29] "error processing linux-image*.deb (--install): cannot access archive: no such file or directory Errors were encountered while processing: linux-image*.deb [03:29] moof_, cd Desktop? [03:29] yes. [03:30] a-ha yes i se [03:30] does anyone here use xubuntu as main desktop [03:30] linuxman410, yes. [03:30] moof_, you sure you downloaded *both* of the fileS? [03:30] here i think i know what's wrong. [03:30] be right back. [03:30] np. [03:32] i'm starting to be a bit unfocused unwillingly since it's 5:30am [03:32] what time zone are you in knome? [03:32] does preload work on xubuntu [03:32] linuxman410, preload? [03:33] moof_, utc+2 (finlanf) [03:33] *finland [03:33] yeah i read about it on a linux user group website it makes ubuntu boot faster [03:33] linuxman410, it will work on xubuntu then. [03:34] are you a native fin? [03:34] linuxman410, the basic architecture is the same, xubuntu just uses xfce as desktop instead of gnome (+ some other minor differences) [03:34] moof_, yes :) [03:34] your english is excellent. [03:34] i thought you were american or british. hah. [03:34] thanks. [03:34] oh, heh [03:35] i have done converted 2 of my neighbors to using xubuntu and ubuntu [03:35] i'm better at writing/reading than speaking/listening though it works ok as well [03:35] linuxman410, great to hear. [03:36] that's normal for europeans and asians. [03:36] normally because they're taught english through books rather than speaking [03:36] ok, restarting. [03:36] moof_, yeah. but my english always gets better when i'm abroad for a few days [03:36] let's see what grub says this time. [03:37] good luck :) [03:37] i like xubuntu it runs good on my p4 [03:37] certainly, hah. [03:40] knome, when do you normally go to bed anyway? [03:40] moof_, too late. :D [03:40] the slowest machine i got it to run on was a 500mhz with 256 ram [03:40] moof_, normally as in when i have to wake up, about 2am [03:40] moof_, or 1am. :) [03:41] haha [03:41] got the day off i'm assuming? [03:41] linuxman410, you can run it with even lower specs, but it will be slow [03:41] xubuntu will run on anything [03:41] it's really amazing in that regard [03:41] moof_, christmas holidays until mid january [03:41] wow i did not know that [03:42] the older xubuntu versions run with older pcs better [03:42] 8.10 really needs 256 ram to be at least somehow usable [03:42] i like 7.04 for old machines [03:42] keb, not a bad choice ;) [03:43] i am running it on p4 1.8 and 1 gig of ram and dvd burner and 40 gig harddrive [03:43] that's way over the min specs [03:44] agh my eeepc is running dual systems, linux and xubuntu because i don't have a flash drive at the moment (haha) and eeepcs don't have cd drives [03:44] it runs good though [03:44] by "old" i mean p3 700 with 384MB [03:44] lol, *windows and xubuntu [03:44] sorry, i'm tired too i guess. [03:44] i'm running amd64 dual-cpu 4600+ with 4 gigs ram [03:44] i do not run windows at all any more [03:45] there is a nice eeebuntu distro and custom kernel [03:45] i have not run windows in about 8 to 10 years [03:45] keb, the array.org ubuntu repository works actually quite nice. :) [03:45] yes [03:45] i'm running a dimension e521 with amd 64 processor 3200 1 gig ddr2 [03:46] :( [03:46] ok, knome grub now shows both 2.6.27 and 2.6.24 [03:46] what now? [03:47] wow nice [03:47] moof_, select the 2.6.24-* and boot to it. [03:48] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/93024/ [03:48] there's my setup :) [03:48] it's a bit outdated though [03:49] that is a great setup [03:49] better than mine haha [03:49] hmm. i also have an a6 wacom tablet [03:49] i ended up getting this one from my friends mother [03:50] who got a "virus" on it [03:50] and sold it to me for 70 bucks [03:50] but think of upgrading that as i get a new *TABLE* to fit it in. [03:50] holy crap [03:50] knome you are a god. [03:51] not really. i'm just investing in computers rather than many more things [03:51] i bought a old compaq p4 2.53 and 768 megs ddr ram and a dvd/cdrw and 40 gig harddrive and i put ubuntu on that one [03:51] and i also do need these things to work [03:52] ok wifi-radar works now etc etc [03:52] so [03:52]