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mrunagithis is annoying00:00
mrunagihow can i download this shared library00:02
dstar_Found it. 'Display content while moving' windows, same-same resiez.00:03
apostlehi all00:04
apostleanybody know of any good linux based games?00:04
RurouniJoneshttp://www.happypenguin.org/00:05
apostlethanks, i shall have a look00:06
coleehello!  I have a problem:  The version of KWin in Jaunty won't start . It gives this error kwin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kwin.so: undefined symbol: _ZTI26KDecorationFactoryUnstable00:08
DaSkreech!games00:13
ubottuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php00:13
coleeAnyone?00:13
DaSkreechmrunagi: can you start X manually?00:13
wimpieshi all, i have this url http://www.q-music.be/asx/q_high.asx which I would like to add to my radio playlist but it does not seem to be able to connect to the stream.  When I use FF, them an mplayer plugin IS able to play00:14
coleeIt's not a game.  It's the KDE Window Manager!00:14
DaSkreechcolee: Jaunty questions don't belong here00:15
coleethen where do I ask?00:16
coleeWho do I ask?00:20
guiterball00:22
guiterbgood morning00:22
DaSkreechcolee: #ubuntu+100:23
DaSkreechhi guiterb00:23
DaSkreechmrunagi: Are you there?00:23
guiterbhi,daskreech00:24
DaSkreechHello00:24
guiterbhave you ever install the driver 'ipwraw'?00:25
guiterbthe driver is used for the wireless card in monitor mode00:25
guiterbbut when i compile it ,something go wrong00:26
nathan_how can i get and install wine through terminal?00:41
JontheEchidnasudo apt-get install wine00:42
nathan_ty00:43
JontheEchidnayw00:44
HappySmileMannathan_: There's more up to date versions available, with installation instructions at winehq.org00:45
HappySmileManIn case you want them, there's probably no need though00:45
DaSkreechWhat goes wrong?00:46
DaSkreechPossibly00:46
nathan_how do you download and install guild wars into wine from terminal?00:47
kevin_i need some assistance with installing my wireless card00:48
OxDeadC0dehow far are the ubuntu guys taking the double letter alphabetical release scheme? Did they start it at AA?00:48
kevin_anyhelp would be greatly appreciated00:50
kevin_anyone?00:50
OxDeadC0dekevin_ What wifi card? are there linux drivers for it, or do you need to use ndiswrapper?00:51
kevin_dead: i have no idea00:52
nathan_anyone got link to wine chat?00:52
kevin_dead: i just installed linux today00:52
OxDeadC0de#winehq or #wine nathan_?00:52
OxDeadC0dekevin_ in a console: lspci | grep Network00:52
OxDeadC0deor try lspci | grep WLAN00:53
kevin_result: Texas Instruments ACX 100 22Mbps Wireless Interface00:53
guiterb<DaSkreech>WARNING: $SHELL not set to bash.00:55
OxDeadC0dekevin_ try "sudo modprobe acx" in your console00:55
guiterbbut my shell is bash00:55
DaSkreechguiterb: not your scrpting shell00:56
DaSkreechguiterb: That's dash00:56
OxDeadC0dekevin_ then "iwconfig" to make sure the interface now exists00:56
DaSkreech!dash00:56
ubottu/bin/sh links to the DASH shell in all releases since Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to « #! /bin/bash00:56
kevin_dead: ok it shows up00:57
kevin_result:00:57
kevin_IEEE 802.11b+  Nickname:"acx v0.3.36"00:57
kevin_          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated00:57
kevin_          Bit Rate:22 Mb/s   Tx-Power=18 dBm   Sensitivity=176/25500:57
kevin_          Retry min limit:7   RTS thr:off00:57
kevin_          Power Management:off00:57
kevin_          Link Quality=18/100  Signal level=21/100  Noise level=13/10000:57
kevin_          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:000:57
kevin_          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:000:57
OxDeadC0dedon't00:57
OxDeadC0dethat's what pastebins are for ;)00:58
OxDeadC0dekevin_ but it seems to be working, try setting it to your access point with network manager00:58
guiterbwhat to do?00:58
DaSkreechguiterb: What are you compiling?00:59
guiterb<DaSkreech> ipwraw,a driver for inter3945 wireless card00:59
guiterbmake -C /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-386/build M=/opt/ipwraw-ng modules00:59
DaSkreechIs it not provided by ubuntu ?00:59
guiterbyes01:00
DaSkreechYes it is provided or yes it is not provided ?01:00
OxDeadC0dekevin_ now to make it work every boot without typing "sudo modprobe acx" do: sudo /etc/modules, add "acx" to it's own line near the end, control+x to exit (it will ask you to save)01:01
guiterbnot provided01:01
OxDeadC0dekevin_ now to make it work every boot without typing "sudo modprobe acx" do: sudo /etc/modules, add "acx" to it's own line near the end, control+x to exit (it will ask you to save)01:02
kevin_dead: ok it is not finding any access points.01:02
guiterbbut some body install it on the ubuntu01:02
cuzntmy desktop is not remembering its widgets01:03
cuznt:_(01:03
kevin_dead: and my computer seems to freeze whenever it is plugged in01:03
OxDeadC0dekevin_ what does "iwlist wlan0 scan" report (replace wlan0 with the device id reported by iwconfig)01:03
cuznthow does it run theN?01:03
DaSkreechguiterb: inter3945 == intel 39445 ?01:03
OxDeadC0dekevin_ don't paste it all here01:04
ubuntuwell..........i managed to destroy my kubuntu installation.......i learned its not good to upgrade01:04
kevin_result: no scan results01:04
OxDeadC0deubuntu what happened?01:04
nathan_anyone know how to uninstall wine in terminall?01:04
ubuntuwell when i upgraded x wouldnt start because shared libraries werent found, libxdmcp.so.6 and when i tried to install it it said already newest version, so i uninstalled it and it uninstalled a bunch of things including my ability to get online,,,,,,,,,01:05
OxDeadC0dekevin_ search launchpad for acx cards on ubuntu, if it comes up with nothing useful try google and acx cards with linux :|01:05
OxDeadC0deubuntu upgraded from what to what?01:05
ubuntuhardy to intrepid01:06
OxDeadC0dehmm what happened? I'm guessing you had third party repo's installed? those are the only things that really broke upgrades for me01:07
DaSkreechubuntu: can you chroot to it ?01:07
ubuntui guess i did01:07
ubuntui dont know now i guess im just going to reformat01:08
guiterbinter394501:08
cuzntyou had to  locate libxdmcp.so.601:08
ubuntuit wasnt there01:08
nathan_anyone know how to uninstall wine from terminal?01:08
ubuntucouldnt be found01:08
guiterb<DaSkreech>01:08
DaSkreechubuntu: you are on the live CD now right ?01:08
ubuntuyes01:08
ubuntumy lord now i cant back up my home folder01:09
BluesKajOxDeadC0de, it could be you hardware, intrepid depends more on HAL than ever before so you may need to check out all the drivers required, not just the generic stuff01:09
OxDeadC0deubuntu when doing a dist upgrade, I always (now)fully upgrade the regular stuff first, then clean out apt-cache, then when I do the dist upgrade I have all the packages on my hd, and if it fails for any reason I can force install everything, then run autoremove to fix things,01:09
DaSkreechubuntu: Yes you can01:09
cuzntnice.. thats a great idea Ox01:09
DaSkreechcuznt: It's the recommended way :)01:10
DaSkreechIt's not fool rppof by any means01:10
ubuntuim getting input output errors01:10
DaSkreechubuntu: On the hard drive?01:10
ubuntuyes01:10
DaSkreechWhat device is it is saying that for?01:10
DaSkreechGrrr01:10
ubuntumy external drive01:10
ubuntuthis doesnt make sense because i can write to it with no problem01:10
cuzntubuntu was missing libxdmcp.so.6 as i recall01:10
DaSkreechubuntu: Oh external what about the internal?01:11
DaSkreechI don't have that file01:11
DaSkreechAny here has libxdmcp.so.6 ?01:11
nathan_could someone help me uninstall wine?01:11
ubuntui dont know01:11
ubuntuat this point im done trying to fix my install and reformatting01:11
DaSkreechnathan_: sudo apt-get remove wine01:11
nathan_Daty01:12
DaSkreechubuntu: Wait I can probably get it up01:12
nathan_DaSkreech: ty01:12
DaSkreechnatyw01:12
nate_hello room, i am using hardy and just installed xmms manually but cant figure out how to add wma support anybody get this to work?01:12
ubuntuwhats the partitioning software on the live cd01:12
OxDeadC0dei   libxdmcp6                                                                - X11 Display Manager Control Protocol library01:12
DaSkreechubuntu: I was asking you before if you could run X01:12
DaSkreechOxDeadC0de: Yeah I have that I don't have a shared lib for it01:12
ubuntui dont understand ur question01:12
DaSkreechubuntu: do you just have a / partition or do you have another /home partition ?01:13
guiterbhow to start ftp servers?01:13
ubuntui have 2 partitions windows and linux01:13
DaSkreech!ftpd01:13
ubottuFTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP01:13
DaSkreechubottu: Ok can you mount the linux partition ?01:14
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:14
DragnslcrFail!01:14
DaSkreechShut up you01:14
nathan_how do i change my web browser i hate konquerer01:14
DaSkreechubuntu: : Ok can you mount the linux partition ?01:14
OxDeadC0de-/usr/lib/libXdmcp.so01:14
DaSkreechnathan_: go to system settings and default applications change it to what you want01:15
DaSkreechubuntu: can you mount the linux partition ?01:15
ubuntuyes01:15
ubuntuwait01:16
ubuntusorry i mounted my windows01:16
nate_nathan_: i use mozilla firefox, works like a charm.  i too had problems with konquer loading some content01:16
DaSkreechubuntu: Ok in the terminal type sudo chroot /path/where/it/mountes01:16
DaSkreechmounted :)01:16
ubuntuok now what01:16
DaSkreechubuntu: Ok you should be on your install so typing ls /home should see all your home directories01:18
ubuntui do01:18
DaSkreechubuntu: Ok try sudo apt-get update01:18
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ubuntuW: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org hardy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A278301:19
nathan_DaSkreech: what do i do when i get to default settings to change the browser?01:19
ubuntuW: Failed to fetch http://hendrik.kaju.pri.ee/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/screenlets/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Fou01:20
OxDeadC0dehah 3rd party repos!01:20
nathan_DaSkreech: im sorry default applications01:20
DaSkreechOxDeadC0de: No net is more worrying01:20
DaSkreechnathan_: There should be an option there for browser and mail just change it to what you like01:21
ubuntuso now?01:21
OxDeadC0deI would suggest he comment out the other repo's in his sources file?01:22
DaSkreechubuntu: justt confirming those are the only two that don't work ?01:22
beachsurfinin kde4, what program do i use to search for new software to download? adept package manager or adept package installer?01:22
OxDeadC0decould be very wrong though01:22
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beachsurfinbecause both are showing me nothing01:22
OxDeadC0debeachsurfin they're both adept01:22
OxDeadC0debeachsurfin fetch package lists01:23
DaSkreechbeachsurfin: type sudo update-apt-xapian-index01:23
DaSkreechOh yeah that too :)01:23
DaSkreechubuntu: are those the only two errors? as in the rest go through normally?01:23
NetSkier 01:23
beachsurfinDaSkreech: what is that?01:24
ubuntuill pastebin it all01:24
ubuntu!pastebin01:24
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:24
DaSkreechbeachsurfin: it's the packages database a bug in adept doesn't update it if you add a new repo and you see nothing in adept01:24
NetSkierWhat do you suggest for troubleshooting Firefox when it crashes a 2-3 seconds after starting?  Kubuntu 8.1.01:25
ubuntuhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/93500/01:25
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OxDeadC0denetskier open it in a console and type firefox01:26
ubuntudid u read DaSkreech?01:27
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DaSkreechubuntu: try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:27
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NetSkierOxDeadC0de, thnks; reading output now.01:28
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ubuntu    E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).01:28
DaSkreechubuntu: Go! try it :)01:29
DaSkreechubuntu: Getting output?01:32
nathan_anyone know how to install guild wars into wine?01:32
ubuntuseems to have installed alot01:33
OxDeadC0denathan_ check winehq01:33
OxDeadC0dethe website01:33
ubuntunow what? reboot and try?01:33
DaSkreechubuntu: Expected :)01:33
DaSkreechubuntu: Can you?01:33
ubuntuyea brb01:33
DaSkreechubuntu: Well yeah of course you can you have irssi ?01:33
DaSkreechHope he does01:33
DaSkreechassuming he01:34
nathan_how do i download and install guild wars into wine from the terminal?01:34
nathan_how do i download and install guild wras into wine from the terminal?01:35
OxDeadC0denathan_ http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_on_Wine asking more than once doesn't help01:35
NetSkierOxDeadC0de, starting Firefox in a console produces 13 lines of output, most of which I don't understand, but suggesting that there is a bug in the program causing it to receive an X-windows error.  What should I do next?01:39
OxDeadC0denetskier: personally i'd do mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old and restart it with a default profile01:40
ubuntuheh forget it01:40
ubuntuim reformatting01:40
NetSkierOxDeadC0de, worth a try.  Proceeding.01:41
OxDeadC0dethen you can go into the .mozilla-old and move the bookmarks01:41
NetSkiercd01:41
OxDeadC0deubuntu: if you reformat please follow some advice01:41
OxDeadC0deubuntu: make a seperate partition for /home01:41
DaSkreechubuntu: What happened?01:41
beachsurfinstill not seeing what i'm searching for01:41
OxDeadC0deubuntu: then if it ever happens again you don't loose any personal data01:41
beachsurfinnothing is showing up01:41
beachsurfin"tor"01:41
OxDeadC0delose*01:41
DaSkreech!tor01:41
ubottuMany Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as TOR due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks01:41
beachsurfini know it's in the repos01:41
beachsurfinthe problem isn't how to use tor, it's that it like others aren't showing up in the adept programs01:42
beachsurfineven after doing the command mentioned earlier01:42
DaSkreechubuntu: no Net ?01:43
OxDeadC0debeachsurfin if you open a console and do: "aptitude search kde" does it show anything?01:43
beachsurfinwould the "state" and "requested" checkmarks have soemthing to do with this? all the icons on their rows are colored01:43
beachsurfinOxDeadC0de: yes01:43
beachsurfini've been using the command line because of this problem, but i'm wanting to fix it now01:44
ubuntui cant mount my external01:44
ubuntuwhat the heck is all this01:44
OxDeadC0debeachsurfin just a thought, you can try "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"  and see if there was a fix for adept01:44
beachsurfinnothing to be upgraded01:45
OxDeadC0dehaha in kde 4.2b2 adept installer doesn't launch for me even ;P01:45
beachsurfinis what i'm told01:45
OxDeadC0detho I can launch it via cli01:45
DaSkreechubuntu: What happened when you rebooted?01:46
ubuntui couldnt get online01:46
ubuntuand x wouldnt start01:46
DaSkreechubuntu: same error with X ?01:46
OxDeadC0dehmm beachsurfin did you install that thing daskreech suggested?01:47
ubuntui didnt try01:47
ubuntuim already extremely frustrated01:47
beachsurfinOxDeadC0de: yeah01:47
ubuntunothing is working01:47
beachsurfin!bugs01:47
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots01:47
DaSkreechbeachsurfin: Don't bother Adept is dead01:47
beachsurfinDaSkreech: what's its replacement?01:47
DaSkreechkpackagekit01:47
DaSkreechubuntu: Will you lose anything?01:48
ubuntuim trying to mount my external to back up my home folder but nothing seems to work for me01:49
DaSkreechubuntu: What's the error?01:50
ubuntuOperation not supported01:50
ubuntuMount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:01:50
DaSkreechugh01:51
DaSkreechtwo choices let windows mount it or force the mount01:51
OxDeadC0dekpackage is kind of cool but the gui needs a workover01:51
nathan_how do you get taskbar to autohide?01:51
[NetSkierOxDeadC0de, Starting FF with a new profile did not help;  Here is the main error:  jw@Baker:~$ firefox01:52
[NetSkierFirebugService fbs.DBG_FBS_CREATION: false fbs.DBG_FBS_BP:false fbs.DBG_FBS_ERRORS:false fbs.DBG_FBS_STEP:false fbs.DBG_FBS_FUNCTION:false01:52
[NetSkierdebugger.onModuleDeactivate Attempt to deactive context that is not active chrome://ubufox/content/startpage.html01:52
DaSkreech!paste | [NetSkier01:52
ubottu[NetSkier: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:52
DaSkreechnathan_: KDE 4.201:52
DaSkreechubuntu: Right ?01:52
SJr|NbookCan someone explain this screen garbage I keep getting in KDE4 on Kubuntu 8.10: http://sjrx.net/crap.png01:52
[NetSkierWhat is the definition of "large texts" for the bot?01:52
SJr|NbookIt seems to happen everywhere, randomly.01:52
SJr|NbookIt happens with this card an Intel 945, and my Nvidia 7400 Go.01:53
SJr|NbookI have turned off Desktop Effects, but it is still prevalant.01:53
HappySmileMan[NetSkier: Anything with more than a couple of lines, so that you don't fill up the IRC channel with your text01:53
DaSkreech[NetSkier: more than two lines01:53
OxDeadC0de!https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/22525701:53
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:53
ubuntuok got it mounted............now i bet it wont let me copy my home to it01:53
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DaSkreechSJr|Nbook: Combo of drivers and KDE bug I haven't seen it at all since installing KDE 4.201:54
OxDeadC0denetskier: See link01:54
SJr|NbookDaSkreech did you use to see it?01:54
DaSkreechYes01:54
SJr|Nbooklike where ever a menu was rendering, etc...01:54
OxDeadC0deSJr|Nbook they mostly fixed it in 4.1.3 but not completly, in 4.2 it's all but gone01:54
SJr|NbookOh sweet jesus01:54
DaSkreechubuntu: May want to backup the packages you had installed as well so you can reference it later01:55
ubuntuthere we go i think its copying01:55
OxDeadC0desjr|nbook they've got it down to sometimes a little white border around a systray icon that's written for gtk (gnome)01:55
SJr|Nbookoh okay01:55
SJr|Nbookhmmmm01:55
OxDeadC0deI can't wait for 4.2B301:57
OxDeadC0deB2 rocks so far01:57
SJr|NbookHmmmm how stable is 4.2 thus far01:57
SJr|NbookIt's really annoying me01:57
DaSkreechubuntu: Did you install a lot of stuff?01:57
OxDeadC0deSjr|Nbook it has quirks, but once they're "sorted out" it's better than 4.1.3, couldn't get 4.1.3 to not crash overnight while sleeping, this session has been running 2 days without a crash (but I know ways to force it to crash..)01:57
HappySmileManSJr|Nbook: Only time 4.2 has crashed for me is when enabling comic plasmoid, though I don't use much plasmoids01:58
SJr|NbookOxDeadC0de is one of them to "Press the K Button" or "Open an application" or "Look at the screen"01:58
OxDeadC0deSjr|Nbook - when first setting a comic on the comic plasmoid it will crash, but if you keep retrying eventually it will stop crashing :P So you Can use comics01:58
DaSkreechSJr|Nbook: For me really really stable. anecdotaly plasma and kmail have a few crashes but the most part it's very good01:58
OxDeadC0delol no01:58
SJr|NbookDon't care about plasmoids.01:58
DaSkreechHappySmileMan: Speaking of which it's time for me to go crash plasma01:58
OxDeadC0deIt's the comic plasmoid, and if you drop a folderview plasmoid onto the taskbar.. it crashes for me, others said it didn't for them01:59
SJr|NbookI don't have any, not even the desktop plasmoid, thank you KDE for ruining it01:59
HappySmileManSJr|Nbook: Yeah look at the screen and it crashes, I use my peripheral vision and it's fine though :P01:59
OxDeadC0deHAHA01:59
DaSkreechOxDeadC0de: use the quick access plasmoid it's waaaaay nicer01:59
SJr|NbookHmmmmm01:59
OxDeadC0deDaSkreech I do already, was just testing it to see what happened01:59
DaSkreechSJr|Nbook: It's better in KDE 4.2 you can have your old KDE 3 desktop back01:59
SJr|Nbookugh... oh well 4.2 it is. Hmmmm is that something I get at launchpad or whatever.01:59
SJr|NbookOh my god really01:59
OxDeadC0deDaSkreech was hoping it'd be smart enough to do something other than crash and make a tiny ass folder view, like turn it into an icon01:59
DaSkreechOxDeadC0de: Ah yes me too but I hate folderview now that I have quick access02:00
SJr|NbookKDE 3.5 was so good.02:00
DaSkreechSJr|Nbook: It's in the topic02:00
DaSkreechSJr|Nbook: KDE 4.5 will likely be better :)02:00
SJr|NbookI dunno KDE seems to be going on the weirdest tangent.02:00
OxDeadC0de4.3 will be better even.. :P02:00
DaSkreechSJr|Nbook: What's strange about it?02:00
OxDeadC0deFrom a programming perspective, I like this tangent02:00
OxDeadC0demakes things a bit easier to play with02:01
SJr|NbookThere trying new things, which is by definition bad.02:01
OxDeadC0deand by a bit I mean a lot02:01
SJr|NbookIt's like voting for the Democratic party, or granting universal sufferage02:01
kevin_hello again dead02:01
SJr|NbookI liked it better when I got three hog heads to the gallon, and the kaiser was still in power.02:01
DaSkreechSJr|Nbook: trying new things are bad? or they are trying new things that are bad?02:02
SJr|NbookI dunno :P I'm exagurating of course. I'll just say that it's different, and I thought KDE was near perfect (from a user perspective, clearly not a programming one).02:02
DaSkreechin either case you are wrong :)02:02
kevin_my wireless card is still not detecting my wireless access point any suggestions that might help?02:02
SJr|NbookKDE 3.502:02
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OxDeadC0dewoot, I'm happy, before the vote on my frequency scaler plasmoid was going way down, but recently it went back up 3 points, yay :P02:03
SJr|NbookI'm sure History will invalidate my opinion02:03
DaSkreechSJr|Nbook: This is offtopic in any case if you want chat about it #kubuntu-offtopic is where we shall go02:03
DaSkreechOxDeadC0de: it's not stock :-P02:03
SJr|NbookAh02:03
SJr|NbookAh sorry I didn't realize.02:03
SJr|NbookHmmmmm Why do next to know plasmoids show up in my list either02:04
kevin_please, any help at all?02:04
DaSkreechSJr|Nbook: Kubuntu split plasmoids out into a seperate package and decided not to install it for some reason02:04
DaSkreechkevin_: what does sudo iwlist scan say ?02:04
SJr|Nbookhmmmm02:05
SJr|Nbookyeah but why like do I have a CPU Frequency plasmoid that once I remove, I can't get back :P02:05
kevin_no scan results02:05
DaSkreechkevin_: laptop?02:06
kevin_yes02:06
DaSkreechkevin_: Do you have the kill switch on or off ?02:09
kornHello, I'd like to ask what is the easiest way to obtain the Mozilla Firefox browser with a new Ubuntu installation02:09
korn?02:09
kevin_how do i check?02:09
kornthanks, in advance02:09
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kevin_korn : sudo apt-get install firefox02:09
DaSkreechkorn: you mean kubuntu installation :) It's installed already on Ubuntu02:10
kornyes, sorry, kubuntu02:11
DaSkreechkevin_: Most laptops have a switch somewhere that will turn off the wireless card02:11
kevin_oh hold up let me check02:11
kevin_it is off02:13
kevin_i pressed it many times02:13
kevin_never pulled up my network02:14
SJr|NbookAnyone know a tool that can copy files and report the file transfer rate in like a text file02:14
kornkevin_: thanks. Does Firefox then come with the standard ubuntu installation, or is it first downloaded with the apt-get command?02:14
kevin_korn: no prob. and i believe it is the standard Ubuntu installation02:15
nathan_were would i find the wine config in kubuntu?02:15
kevin_nathan_: have you installed wine?02:16
nathan_kevin_: yes sir02:16
kevin_nathan_: it should be in your kmenu02:17
DaSkreechin ~/.wine02:17
kornkevin_: okay, thank you.02:17
nathan_kevin_:  cant find it anywere is there a way to run it from the terminal?02:19
kevin_nathan_: im not sure. i don't use wine much02:19
maximilianoHI ALL OF U!02:20
kevin_hello max02:20
maximilianoI am from Argentina,02:20
maximilianohi kevin02:20
maximilianoIt is my first day in kubuntu02:20
kevin_mine to02:20
kevin_just came from ubuntu02:21
maximilianook COLEGA :D02:21
kevin_im liking it so far02:21
kevin_jaja02:21
kevin_haha*02:21
maximilianohaha02:21
maximilianome too02:21
nathan_does anyone know how to run wine config from the terminal?02:21
maximilianobut, I come from windows...02:21
kevin_skreech: anything else that may help?02:21
kevin_nathan_: try google. i have found it to be my friend since installing linux.02:22
maximilianohow can i install Ares or Emule?????02:22
beachsurfin"WARNING: terminal is not fully functional" man [anything] shows a list of where the command is listed in other man pages, my terminal doesn't like me and i'm not liking its silly behavior02:22
kevin_max: try to open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install ares02:23
SJr|NbookWhat is the plasmoid packages, i.e. so I can get a list of them to install?02:23
DaSkreechkevin_: You should try KDE 4.202:25
DaSkreechnathan_: winecfg02:25
DaSkreech!info amule02:25
ubottuamule (source: amule): client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.2-1ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 1758 kB, installed size 4376 kB02:25
DaSkreech!info emule02:25
ubottuPackage emule does not exist in intrepid02:25
maximilianothanks kevin!!!!!       thanks so much!!!02:25
maximilianohappy new year!!!!02:26
maximilianobye!!!!!!!02:26
maximiliano:D02:26
DaSkreechbye02:26
DaSkreechSJr|Nbook: plasmoid-quickaccess kdeplasmoids02:27
DaSkreechkdeplasma-addons02:27
SJr|Nbookhmmmm thanks DaSkreech, hmmmm I think this is everything except that KDM still sucks02:29
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SJr|Nbookbut oh well02:29
DaSkreechWhat is the suck about it? :)02:29
SJr|NbookIt seems that on the outer 124/2 pixels there is just that same graphic corruption.02:30
SJr|Nbook62 pixels02:30
DaSkreechReally? Hmm02:30
DaSkreechI'll look next time I have to login which isn't that often02:31
DaSkreechThough I might logout soon :)02:31
SJr|NbookI'm on a netbook though02:31
SJr|NbookI think KDM wants it to be 800x600, and just puts crap in the outter 124 pixes02:31
SJr|Nbook224*02:31
SJr|NbookDaSkreech hmmmmm I guess that is only for KDE 4.1, since according to apt, I have a conflict between kdeplasma-addons (which kdeplasmoids depends on) and kdeplasmoids.02:37
p_quarlesdoes anyone know exactly which file contains the Qt theme and color scheme settings for KDE3 applications in 8.10?02:38
juandaholas02:39
juandaquien quiere ablar02:40
p_quarles!es02:40
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.02:40
DerathI have a couple questions regarding folderview, if anyone is awake that can help02:45
kevin_ok new problem for me02:47
kevin_i get a kernel panic at times when my wireless card is in02:48
kevin_it only occures when the card is in02:48
kevin_any tips to help with this problem would be greatly appreciated02:49
kevin_anyone?02:49
madhuhi all02:49
cuzntwhats a kernal panic?02:50
madhucan anybody say how to install webcam driver?02:50
madhuim using acer 4z10z02:50
cuzntif it is creative web cam?02:50
cuznt:p02:50
cuznt!webcam02:50
ubottuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras02:50
kevin_cuznt: when the computer freezes up and the caps lock and scroll lock lights on the keyboard blink02:51
cuzntoh man02:51
DaSkreechSJr|Nbook: kdeplasma-addons is the valid package02:51
cuzntthats got to suck,,02:51
kevin_cuznts: the only way im back on is through hard reset02:51
kevin_it does02:51
kevin_so any help?02:51
DaSkreechDerath: Questions?02:52
SJr|NbookYeah I just get a dependancy problem02:52
cuzntno idea02:52
DaSkreechkevin_: What card02:52
DerathUsing kde 4.1, how can I show the full name of files in Folder View, and how can I create a launcher to an app with parameters?02:52
kevin_my wireless card02:52
kevin_and it wont even detect my network on this machine02:53
dineshi have kubuntu installed and now trying to install tomcat. tomcat installs fine but when i start tomcat02:53
dineshfrom terminal window02:53
kevin_it works on other machines02:53
dineshi get permissions issued writing to log files02:53
kevin_just not this one02:53
DaSkreechDerath: a .desktop file will launch any file02:53
p_quarleskevin_: what's the wireless card?02:54
DaSkreechdinesh: you probably need to start it as particualr user02:54
dineshi do see tomcat55 user auto created wit nogroup02:55
kevin_p_quarles: acx 10002:55
dineshbut i cant change the owner or login to root02:55
dineshit doesnt allow me to loign to root02:55
kevin_p_quarles: the main thing im worried about right now is the kernel panics. cuz without that fixed i cant do anything with it02:56
dineshthe only user it allows me to login in dinesh02:56
dineshwhich is something i selected during install02:56
cuznt<dinesh> but i cant change the owner or login to root02:56
cuzntno log in as root02:56
cuzntyou can do things as root inside02:56
p_quarleskevin_: okay, not familiar with that one, but a google search shows there are established OSS drivers02:56
p_quarleskevin_: what kind of interface?02:57
DaSkreechdinesh: sudo su02:57
dineshahh02:57
dineshi will try sudo su02:57
kevin_p_quarles: Texas Instruments ACX 100 22Mbps Wireless Interface02:57
p_quarlessudo -i is a better idea02:57
dineshthank you02:57
p_quarleskevin_: okay, but I'm trying to figure out how it connects to the computer02:57
p_quarleskevin_: you say "when I connect it"02:58
ubuntu!lock02:58
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about lock02:58
p_quarleskevin_: USB? PCI?02:58
kevin_p_quarles: it only happens when the card is inserted in the PCI slot02:58
dineshyes i  am loged in as root..Thanks every one for the support..02:59
dineshi am loving ubuntu,,02:59
dinesh:)02:59
p_quarleskevin_: are you able to test other PCI cards in that slot? that card in other PCI slots?02:59
kevin_p_quarles: this one works with others02:59
p_quarleskevin_: the card or the slot?03:00
kevin_p_quarles: card03:00
kevin_p_quarles: the other card i have doesn't work either03:00
ubuntudinesh: give it time............ull hate itr03:00
p_quarlesokay, so it still may be a faulty PCI slot, which is kind of beyond the support a software channel can offer; unfortunately, the fact that the kernel panic commences on inserting the card makes it hard to debug03:01
dineshwill see..: -)03:02
ubuntumk03:03
kevin_p_quarles: any way to fix the kernel panic?03:03
ubuntube sure and back up everything03:03
ubuntuin fact keep anything important off the partition u have ubuntu on03:03
p_quarleskevin_: without knowing what causes it? no03:04
dineshyou are scaring me..03:04
dineshmay be thats what i should do then03:04
dinesh: (03:04
ubuntuno need to be scared03:04
ubuntulinux is great...........but itll anger you from time to time03:05
kevin_p_quarles: i know it has something to do with the wireless cad03:05
dsnaikekevin I checked ubuntu wifi docs appears the acx 100 not supported but the the acx 111 is03:05
p_quarleskevin_: no you don't, because you can't rule out the PCI slot without further information03:06
dsnaikekevi try this link http://acx100.sourceforge.net/03:06
kevin_dsnaike: i already have those drivers installed03:06
kevin_p_quarles: the slot worked in windows a few hours ago. Im pretty sure its not the slot. almost possitive its software03:08
dsnaikekevin the author of the article I read that got the acx 111 working is here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx111?action=show&redirect=WifiDocs%2FDev03:10
ert3I need help with an oldD-Link laptop card (PCI) and Kubuntu is recognizing it, D-Link laptop card (PCI) and Kubuntu is recognizing it; and we are running a 128bit WEP key03:11
kevin_dsnaike: i really appreciate your help. right now i am trying to troubleshoot my kernel panic. tehn i will move on to fixing the wireless card03:14
dsnaikekevin sorry but based on your posting I would say the firmware for the card is wrong and causing the panic03:16
kevin_dsnaike: do you suggest reinstalling the drivers?03:17
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dsnaikekevin not yet during the install did you run any commands like gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/options or kate/kwrite03:21
kevin_no03:22
dsnaikekevin the link I gave will give you an idea of how to proceed sometimes you have to tell linux any distro what to do03:24
dsnaikejust read the the page on how he did it and you'll get it03:25
kevin_dsnaike: thanks for the help im looking over it now03:26
kevin_dsnaike: im really confused on telling linux what to do part. what do u mean?03:30
Makuseru!.m4a03:33
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:33
mrunagii cant seem to activate the restricted drivers on my pc any ideas?03:33
nathan_anyone know how to auto hide the taskbar at the bottom of the screen?03:37
ubunturosnathan_: Right Click -> Configure Panel -> Hiding -> Hide automatically after x seconds03:39
ubunturosaah... KDE 3.5.x ... should be similar for KDE 403:39
nathan_ubuntui have kde4 and its not there when i right click03:40
nathan_does anyone know how to autohide taskbar in kde4?03:48
anikanathan_: its in KDE 4.203:49
nathan_anika: yes sry03:50
nathan_does anyone know how to autohide taskbar in kde4.2?03:52
JontheEchidnanathan_: hit the plasma icon on the right of the panel -> more options03:54
JontheEchidna*more settings actually03:54
nathan_JontheEchidna: just accidentily removed the whol thing is there a way to get it back03:55
ubunturosnathan_: http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/10/24/kde-4-hiding-of-task-bar-is-now-part-of-opensuse-111/ - should help you too03:56
JontheEchidnanathan_: right click -> add new panel. Then you can drag all the applets you want from the widgets list03:56
anikanathan_: Click the cashew at the end then click more settings03:58
anikanathan_: Right click the desktop and add panel03:59
nathan_JontheEchidna: k got the panel back now were is the plasma icon?04:00
JontheEchidnashould be on the far right of the panel04:00
anikanathan_: at the far end of the panel04:00
nathan_anika: no all of my icons were deleted too!04:01
anikanathan_: Which icons?04:02
anikanathan_: You mean you have a naked panel?04:02
nathan_anika: all the ones in my taskbar04:02
anikanathan_: You mean panel :)04:03
nathan_anika: yes04:03
anikaWhen you click the panel menu do you see add widgets?04:03
nathan_anika: yes04:03
anikaok add these in this order04:04
anikaApplication launcher, quick access , task manager, pager, show desktop, system tray, device manager, digital clock,  trash04:05
anikaThat will be the same as default04:05
anikawhile you are there more settings -> auto hide04:06
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tylor_i have a question04:11
tylor_i am wanting to change distros and i dont have have an external hard drive to back up my data is there any way to import it in to the next distro without re partitioning and copying the data over?04:12
nathan_anika:  it will not let me add all that stuff?04:15
somekoolhi there, I want to upgrade my kubuntu to 8.10 to be able to run kde4.2 but when I go in "software sources" under the update tab, there is no dropdown about release upgrade like the screenshot shows at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading04:16
tylor_are you running 8.0404:16
anikatylor_: Do you have a /home partition?04:18
somekoolok, I did kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel"04:18
somekoolit seems to work04:18
anikanathan_: Is that a question?04:18
somekoolyes, I am on 8.0404:18
tylor_yes04:19
tylor_somekool it doesnt auto upgrade because 8.04 is lts (long term service) so companies running 8.04 wont see the upgrade04:20
tylor_anika i do not have a /home partition just the folder in the filesystem04:25
anikatylor_: Then back that up04:26
anikaif you want wider settings as well you can back up /etc but never use that as a whole sale restore04:27
tylor_i do not have an external hard drive to back it up to, is there any way to do it without using another drive.04:28
nathan_anika: really just want to know how to autohide the taskbar04:28
tylor_i  want to change to Mandriva 2009, it imports Windows files from the LiveCD if i import my files to the root folder while running the LiveCD will it save it when i install to hard drive?04:29
tylor_anika are you on kde 404:29
anikanathan_: the menu button -> more settings -> Auto hide04:30
anikatylor_: yes04:33
nathan_anika: were is the menu button?04:33
tylor_far right you have to have the widgets unlocked04:33
anikanathan_: Far right04:33
nathan_it look like a cashew?04:34
DragnslcrYeah04:35
DragnslcrI don't think anyone ever figured out why04:35
nathan_anika: does hte menu button look like a cashew?04:36
anikanathan_: yes04:38
punkhello04:38
anikaDragnslcr: It's supposed to be a paint palete04:38
punksomebody from barcelona?04:39
DragnslcrI see...04:39
nathan_when i click on it it does not give me a more settings option just says add widgets?04:39
OxDeadC0deThe cashew tastes good, it tastes better in 4.204:39
anikapunk: maybe is it important?04:40
OxDeadC0declick around nathan_04:40
punkfor talk in catalan or spanish04:40
nathan_OxDeadC0de: been cliccking around for an hour allready!04:41
anika!es04:41
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.04:41
OxDeadC0denathan_ sorry I went to play some vice city :P, lost track of what's going on, so what's the deal now? ^^04:42
OxDeadC0deoh I see, autohide taskbar?04:42
punkthanks04:42
OxDeadC0decashew/more settings/autohide, only available in 4.2beta204:42
nathan_OxDeadC0de: yeah i do not see the option anywere to do this?04:42
OxDeadC0deyou're probably not in 4.2beta204:43
OxDeadC0dedon't worry 4.2 full will be out next month, prob about midway through after another beta..04:43
nathan_OxDeadC0de: no clue just burned the iso 8.10 tonight and booted up04:44
OxDeadC0denathan_ then you're in 4.1.2, crappy buggy version I think most will agree04:44
nathan_OxDeadC0de: oh great firt time kde user and got the wrong one lol04:45
OxDeadC0denathan_ no you got the right one, 4.2 was a few months to late (is) for 8.10 though, which is the latest releas04:45
OxDeadC0derelease*04:45
OxDeadC0deread the topic to get 4.2beta2 - but remember it's beta04:46
anikaOxDeadC0de: It's not poout yet :-P04:46
anikaout04:46
OxDeadC0dethat's why I said it's to late for 8.1004:46
nathan_OxDeadC0de: so you are saying there isnt an autohide feature on my version?04:47
anikanathan_: No check the topic for kde 4.204:47
OxDeadC0denathan_ that's what I'm saying, if you want a good version though with less bugs (but still a few..) read the topic on how to update to it, i hope you don't have dial-up04:47
miohi04:51
NetSkierOxDeadC0de, is KDE 4.1.3 also crappy?04:53
anikaNetSkier: For some people05:03
OxDeadC0deNetSkier my opinion, yes, 4.2 is what 4.0 should have been05:07
OxDeadC0decan't wait to see where it will go next, what 4.3 will be like05:08
OxDeadC0dewill be I mean, 4.2b2 is already excellent, and they've gotten rid of so many bugs since the b2 release I'm thinking about installing nightly tomorrow05:10
OxDeadC0deand the new weather widget is supposed to be working and bug-free - though missing some icons that will be made by the oxygen team eventually05:12
OxDeadC0debut it needs the latest version of kde to compile. even newer than the b2 release.05:13
anikaOxDeadC0de: version 1.0 ?05:22
OxDeadC0deanika?05:23
anikaYes?05:27
anikaThe Weather station plasmoid should be 1.005:27
cuzntthere is a lancelot launcher that does not work yet either05:28
NetSkierBased on the good reviews, I just attempted to upgrade to KDE 4.2, but everything still looks like 4.1.3.  How can I tell whether the upgrade was successful?05:28
OxDeadC0deoh yeah ^^05:28
OxDeadC0demy lancelot launcher works :O, where doesn't yours cuznt?05:29
Salze_NetSkier: Look at the info pages in the help menu.05:29
NetSkierdpkg -l is showing mostly 4.1.3 things, and only a few 4.1.85-ppa1 pkgs.05:29
cuznthrmmm05:29
Salze_NetSkier: Then you haven't updated successfully.05:29
NetSkierSalze_, yes, just confirmed with your suggestion.05:30
cuzntit states it could not find the launcher05:31
anikacuznt: What is wrong with lancelot?05:31
aloneaI have no idea what happened, but I think my wifi drivers borked. My wireless card was working fine, but when I logged in today, the light wont turn blue and knetworkmanager doesn't see it.05:32
aloneaThe card works fine in my other os's05:32
cuzntin fact most of my applets listed are missing05:32
cuzntsay component not found05:32
anikahi alonea :)05:32
aloneaanika: hey05:33
aloneaanika: wireless card doesn't work for me anymore and I haven't done anything i don't think.05:33
anikacuznt: install kdeplasma-addons05:33
anikaand plasmoid-quickaccess05:33
aloneaanika: I did update to intrepid, but it worked after that as well. Lemme find what card I got.05:34
aloneaBroadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)05:34
anikaUgh05:35
anika!broadcom05:35
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx05:35
aloneayeah...05:35
aloneabut the crazy thing for me is, its  been perfectly fine for over a month.05:35
OxDeadC0decuznt sudo apt-get install kdeplasma-addons05:35
anikaandplasmoid=quickaccess05:35
OxDeadC0dealonea I have the exact same wifi card, using it now, I use ndiswrapper tho05:36
aloneaOxDeadC0de: I haven't needed ndiswrapper at all. it worked out of the box. I used to use that on an old laptop though05:36
aloneaOxDeadC0de: I am very confused as to what has gone wrong05:37
cuznt Depends: libplasma2 but it is not going to be installed05:37
OxDeadC0dealonea for me ndis is better, keeps the speed at a more stable level with all the interference I get, less switching is better overall performance for streaming audio05:37
aloneaOxDeadC0de: *shrugs* didn't have any problems till now.05:37
cuzntplasmoid-lancelot:   Depends: libplasma2 but it is not going to be installed05:38
aloneaanika: that page is outdated. no articles for intrepid, which seems to me so far is way different than hardy05:38
anikacuznt: What version of KDE are you using?05:38
anikaalonea: not on the driver level05:38
OxDeadC0deya you have to remove the old plasmoid packages05:38
cuzntbeta05:38
aloneaanika: ya know, let me see if those drivers under hardware will work05:38
OxDeadC0dethey're all included now in the one package that relies on libplasma305:39
cuznt4.2.x05:39
aloneaanika: they were not installed before, but I can try them.05:39
OxDeadC0decuznt apt-get autoremove05:39
aloneaanika: or not...its not listed anymore.05:39
cuzntsays i have to get ridof superkaramba05:39
cuzntand stuff05:40
LillymonCan someone please help me? aRts has gone insane. I've got "/usr/bin/artsd" listed at least 30 times in htop and my system is slowing down accordingly. How the hell do I stop it?05:41
OxDeadC0delillymon killall artsd05:42
aloneaya know, there have been tons of kernel updates lately. Maybe that broke it.05:42
p_quarlesLillymon: the fact that a process has multiple PIDs doesn't mean it's behaving incorrectly05:42
p_quarlesLillymon: but, of course, htop includes a rich kill function05:42
LillymonFirst thing I tried, no impact. There probably about 100 now, this can't possibly be normal, my PC almost ground to a complete halt once already.05:43
cuznt  Could not resolve 'ppa.launchpad.net'05:43
LillymonThere was an error message when I started about KNotify crashing when KDE last started. I selected to disable aRts output, but it doesn't seem to have paid any attention.05:43
p_quarleshmm -- yeah, that doesn't sound so normal -- is this a one time thing or has it happened several times?05:44
cuzntErr http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid/main kdeplasma-addons 4:4.1.85-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa105:44
aloneaalso, touchpad is still kinda crazy in intrepid. its mildly better, but still funky.05:44
LillymonI recently killed off a broken OSS install and installed the latest development version of OSS 4.1. Sound works fine, but this started immediately after.05:44
p_quarlesLillymon: ALSA doesn't work with your sound card?05:45
LillymonSound Blaster X-Fi. I hope it will work in Jaunty, if ALSA is updated before then.05:45
LillymonI'm currently on Hardy.05:46
p_quarlessounds like a mess, Lillymon05:46
aloneabrb...05:46
LillymonThey all say "/usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -a toss -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f"05:47
guimelhola05:47
anika!info b43-fwcutter05:48
ubottub43-fwcutter (source: b43-fwcutter): Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware. In component main, is optional. Version 1:011-4ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 15 kB, installed size 100 kB05:48
guimelcabextract05:48
LillymonEverything except KDE system sounds seem to be working. I'd be more than happy to kill of aRts entirely if that's all I was losing.05:49
guimelhi!05:49
p_quarles!hello | guimel05:49
ubottuguimel: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!05:49
guimelthanks05:49
guimelAre you speak spanish???05:50
p_quarles!es | guimel05:50
ubottuguimel: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.05:50
guimelthanks05:50
Lillymonkillall doesn't appear to make the slightest bit of difference.05:51
aloneaanika: yup. it was a bad update. There was a newer one that i put on, restarted. Works now.05:51
Salze_Lillymon: did you sudo killall?05:51
LillymonYep.05:51
Salze_Have you tried to disable the sound system in the system settings?05:51
guimelthanks bye05:51
aloneaanika: linux-resticted-modules I think05:52
OxDeadC0deanyone here use kde-nightly?05:52
LillymonHow do I actually do that?05:52
Salze_Which version of kde?05:53
LillymonAny change there results in "Starting sound system." until I hit cancel, it never completes.05:53
LillymonKDE3.05:53
Salze_System Settings -> Sound system (or anything sounding like that - I don't know the exact wording).05:54
LillymonEven 'No Audio Input/Output' results in the system perpetually trying to start the sound system.05:54
Salze_Did you reboot?05:54
LillymonI'll have to try that next.05:55
LillymonFrankly though, aRts seems to be superfluous. Nothing I do in the sound settings actually impacts any applications. Can I just REMOVE arts entirely?05:56
Salze_I don't think so - but I'm no expert on that.05:56
kornHello, I would like to ask how we can test whether the speakers are working properly in Kubuntu?05:57
LillymonWell if I can, I want to. I've had a Core 2 Duo booted for about an hour and it's crawling just trying to DISPLAY Firefox. This is not normal or acceptable.05:58
kornand whether there are any rpm's to install05:58
kornto enable the speakers05:58
kornthanks in advance05:58
anikakorn: KDE 3 or KDE 4?06:00
aloneakorn: as far as I know, kubuntu doesn't use rpm, though it can do deb installers. You could always play a song.06:00
kornanika: KDE 3.5.906:01
Salze_korn: There is a button to test the sound in system settings -> sound system.06:01
kornunfortunately, no audio signal is being played by the speaker06:01
anikaSystem settings -> Sound -> Test sound06:02
kornanika: thanks, I tried that, but don't receive any audio response06:02
korndoes it give an audio response to that?06:02
anikayes06:02
kornSalze_, anika: is there any other way to restart the speakers, e.g. a detect speakers option?06:03
anikaThey used to work?06:04
Salze_korn: You can try different settings on that page - which soundsystem to use, etc.06:04
kornor a command to disable the speakers and restart them06:04
kornthey didn't work with Ubuntu before, no, although, they did work through Windows, which I had earlier06:05
kornSalze_: thanks, I've tried the options under Sound System, but they don't restart the audio system06:07
LillymonRight, restarted. No aRts as of yet, but the same error message. "During the previous startup, KNotify crashed while instatiating KNotify. Do you want to try again or disable aRts sound output?"06:07
Salze_korn: Maybe your soundcard is not supported. You could try google for information on that.06:07
LillymonFirst time I selected to try again, the second I selected to disable aRts because of the problems I had with aRts going bonkers. BOTH times aRts dragged my system down.06:08
Salze_Did you reboot in between?06:09
kornThe 'Test Sound' button does however, send audio output to external speakers, when they are connected06:09
LillymonI've restarted now, I only restarted X the first time.06:09
kornSalze_: thanks, it might, however, not be a sound card issue06:10
kornto send audio output to built-in speakers?06:11
LillymonOK, chose to disable aRts, and no aRts as of yet. I'm tentatively calling this solved, but I'm still tempted to just remove aRts. I'm getting sound now, so how important can it be?06:11
Salze_korn: I don't know that, sorry.06:13
kornSalze_: thank you, though06:15
OxDeadC0dehmm, anyone know how to get ruby bindings for plasma in kde4 nightly? ^^06:15
NetSkierI upgraded to KDE 4.2b2, and now I have only one desktop.  Right clicking on the leftmost icon at the bottom, gets me to Configure desktops, defaults, OK, returns me to ONE desktop, not the four defaults.  Any ideas how to fix this?06:17
anikaNetSkier: Pager Settings06:17
zeltakmorning :)06:18
anikaNetSkier: No wait Configure Desktops then change the number at top06:19
guiterbmorning06:19
NetSkieranika, that takes me to the same place as what I wrote about; same null results.06:19
zeltakhi :) does amyone use akondai at all? i was wondering if one can sync with it kontacts info between the main computer and laptop?06:19
NetSkieranika, that fails too.06:19
AnastasiaWhat do I need to install to fix this kind of error trying to compile?: chopatscfile.c:28:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory06:19
anikaNetSkier: What did you sit the number to?06:20
NetSkieranika, 8 one time, 2 another.06:20
anikaNetSkier: Did you get to name the desktops ?06:20
NetSkieranasha, no, I wanted to see them first.06:21
anikaNetSkier: did you see that option?06:21
OxDeadC0denetskier system settings/desktop/multiple desktops06:21
stdinAnastasia: build-essential06:21
Anastasiastdin: Thanks, would have thought that stuff would be installed with gcc, but :-).  Much appreciated.06:22
NetSkieranika, No.  I see Desktop Names, I can select the name, but not overtype it.06:22
kornSalze_: thanks, I managed to fix my issue06:23
stdinAnastasia: it's not technically "needed", but it should probably be a recommend06:23
anikaNetSkier: try OxDeadC0de's suggestion06:25
NetSkieranika, I just did, and it failed.06:25
NetSkieranasha, and OxDeadC0de , all three of those suggestions seem to go to the same place, which does not work.06:26
anikaNetSkier: you have sudo abilites ?06:27
NetSkieranasha, yes06:27
anikaThough really you should not need them06:28
OxDeadC0deHmm, I can't seem to find ruby plugins in kde-nightly... ><06:28
NetSkieranasha, right, I thought that I was configuring the desktops for my regular user.06:28
OxDeadC0deer, ruby bindings06:28
NetSkieranika, I am not sure what to try with sudo yet.06:28
Anastasiastdin: Yes, one would think.  That worked and I got what I needed compiled.  Working at getting the HD3000 card to work, might need it soon :-).  Again, *thanks*!06:36
NetSkieranika, Configure Desktop effects fails similarly, with a suggestion to check my X configuration.06:37
anikaNetSkier: what is the suggestion ?06:38
NetSkieranika, just a sec.  I was trying to start a kconsole, and what I got I could not type into.  I need more desktops.06:39
NetSkieranika, "Check you X configuration.  You may also consider changing advanced options, especially changing the compositing type."  What is 'compositing type'?06:41
NetSkiers/you/your06:41
anikaNetSkier: alt+shiift+12 butthat shouldn't do anything06:43
anikaNetSkier: Screw this you want to do it the old way ?06:44
NetSkieranasha, sure06:44
NetSkieranika, sure.06:45
anikaEdit ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc and edit the Desktops section06:45
tony_Anybody know if there is a way to install Mac software on Kubuntu ?  I'm interested in installing MS Office 2008 and figured the Mac version might be able to run on Linux without Wine...06:54
tony_I can't find any documentation online..06:54
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anikatony_: Highly unlikely07:06
OxDeadC0de!paste07:06
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xp-killeri cant get tru to read rmvb video format on my players i need help if there are more codecs plz07:07
anikatony_: Mac uses it's own API which it changes about every 4 years and far as I know no one has written a sandbox for it outside MAC OSX07:07
anikaxp-killer: Install real player07:08
zeltak hi, anybody using akondi yet?07:10
OxDeadC0deI have akondi installed and running but I have no idea what it does07:11
OxDeadC0deakonadi07:11
zeltakahh ok gothca07:12
zeltaki was wondering wetaher anyone knew if its already usable07:12
zeltakas a sync program between computers for PIM data07:12
p_quarlesakonadi is the database backend for Kontact, essentially07:12
OxDeadC0deo07:12
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zeltakyupm and i saw it has a mysql server (i may be totaly wrong here) so i was wondering if i could swap pim data bertweem my main pc and laptop easly through akondai07:13
Guest14877how do i change my web browser?07:14
guiterbhow to set the atftpd?07:16
guiterbwho can help me?07:16
jazmancannon need linux drivwers07:16
p_quarlesGuest14877: in Default Applications07:17
p_quarlesguiterb: what is atftpd?07:17
Guest14877p_quarles: yeah im there right now but not sure how to change it?07:19
p_quarlesGuest14877: what version of Kubuntu?07:19
Guest14877p_8.1007:19
Guest14877p_quarles: 8.1007:20
guiterbtftp server07:20
p_quarlesGuest14877: then go to System Settings (from the main menu) and choose "Default Applications" - in there will be a Web Browser setting07:20
Guest14877p_quarles: yeah i see that but how do i change it?07:21
p_quarlesGuest14877: you click on it, and type the name of the browser you want in the empty text box07:22
Guest14877p_ did that but it didnt seem to work07:23
jazmancannon need descent drivers cant get new scanner working using x sane in intrepid07:23
ethiashi07:26
Guest14877p_quarles: typed in http:www.google.com and then hit apply now what?07:28
p_quarlesGuest14877: is your web browser called http:www.google.com?07:29
Guest14877p_quarles: no its konqurer07:29
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Guest14877p_quarles: iwant google though07:30
p_quarlesGuest14877: are you trying to change your home page? then why did you ask about changing your browser?07:30
p_quarlesGuest14877: asking clear questions is an important part of getting help07:30
gps23why isn't katapult included in kubuntu 8.10?07:30
Guest14877p_quarles: my bad new to linux!07:31
Guest14877p_quarles:  so how do i change my homepage?07:32
p_quarlesGuest14877: Konqueror doesn't do home pages the way other browsers do; you can save the URL as the startup page by going into settings and selecting "Save view profile 'web browsing'"07:32
p_quarlesgps23: because it has krunner, which is better07:33
jazmanjust d/load fire fox or galeon browerser07:33
gps23p_quarles, but in the name of freedom there should be an option to switch to katapult07:33
gps23p_quarles, its not even in repos07:34
p_quarlesgps23: yeah, you're free to compile it07:34
JediatNightCan anyone suggest a 3d game for ubuntu?07:34
gps23p_quarles, thats ok, i can07:34
p_quarlesgps23: katapult is an app for KDE3 -- Kubuntu 8.10 doesn't use KDE307:35
gps23p_quarles, hmm, i got, i should myself used to krunner now07:35
Guest14877p_quarles: settings or system settings?07:35
gps23:(07:35
gps23one more thing, i am unable to set shortcuts in my new kubuntu07:36
OxDeadC0dewell nightly is kind of nice, but doesn't have ruby bindings and there's an issue with the lancelot menu resizing.. hmm07:36
gps23assigned a shortcut to konsole using menueditor, but its not working07:36
peter_god morning from DK07:37
peter_someone know how to connect a vista drive07:38
jazmandoes it auot here the drive07:39
peter_sorry i am new here idont know ist some mot ??07:40
p_quarlesGuest14877: settings in Konqueror07:41
peter_i see the harddisk but cant not see the files07:42
aleprofhello, there is someone running vmware? I'm in troubles after update to 2.6.22.16 kernel version07:42
Guest14877p_quarles:  still trying to get it says malformed url07:44
Guest14877p_quarles: what do i do just rename the one that says web browsing?07:46
Guest14877how do i watch you tube videos on kubuntu?07:57
Guest14877p_quarles: thnx for your help got it to work07:57
Guest14877anyone know   how to watch youtube vids on kubuntu?08:02
peter_how can i see the files in a ntfs disk08:03
kamal`hello kubuntu! :)08:04
* kamal` is using Intrepid Ibex with KDE 4.1.208:04
kamal`i am just trying to find a way to assign shortcuts to launch apps in KDE 4.. no go so far :(08:05
kamal`can someone here please be kind to help with it? :)08:06
kamal`i had those set up in KDE 3.5.x earlier08:06
White_Pelicanin 4.2 beta 2 for Intrepid, I seem to have lost my icon that says there are software updates available. How do I get that back?08:07
kamal`probably you gotta wait till more updates are available and it might pop up again :P08:09
White_PelicanI think I accidentally clicked it and said remove08:09
missanthropicokay i am about to sounds really stupid08:20
missanthropicwhat do i use this for?08:20
missanthropici never used this IRC before08:20
OxDeadC0deyou talk with people, ask questions, help people, get help08:21
missanthropicokay thats kinda what i was thinking08:21
missanthropicso if i have any problems with my ubuntu or anything i can get information from people using the same system08:22
missanthropica lot easier than trying to find something online08:22
OxDeadC0deya but google will still be your #1 friend08:22
OxDeadC0dethis is #208:22
missanthropicheh. right08:22
missanthropicalways08:22
missanthropicokay cool08:23
missanthropici am very new to this08:23
missanthropici love ubuntu08:23
gps23how can i set shortcuts in kubuntu?08:23
gps23using kde408:23
OxDeadC0deok then, some useful info, please don't spam, use !pastebin for large posts, #kubuntu-offtopic for offtopic,08:24
OxDeadC0de!pastebin08:24
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missanthropicok08:25
OxDeadC0degps23 what do you mean shortcuts, in a folder view or in the menu? if in the menu, right click, menu editor08:25
OxDeadC0dein a folder, make a link, you can probably do it through dolphin, if not, ln -s /path/to/real/file /path/to/where/I/want/it08:26
gps23OxDeadC0de, in the menu, i wanted to define a shortcut for konsole, i used menu edit to set it, but its not working08:26
OxDeadC0degps123 I'm trying to test .. what version are you using ? straight off the iso no upgrades? 4.1.3? 4.2beta2?08:29
gps23its 4.1.208:29
OxDeadC0degps23: you clicked "new item" set the name to konsole, then the command to konsole, then clicked save right?08:30
gps23i tell u what i did, in menu edit, i went to utilities->konsole, there in second tab i set a shortcut for it, then i saved menuedit08:30
gps23but its not working08:30
gps23OxDeadC0de, sorry, its system->konsole08:30
OxDeadC0degps23 and what's it say when you click the new item in the menu, is it even there?08:32
gps23OxDeadC0de, i didn't tried new item, because entry for konsole is already in system submenu08:32
OxDeadC0degps23 and when you go to system and click on konsole what happens?08:33
gps23OxDeadC0de,  then on right side, there are two tabs General, and advanced08:33
gps23OxDeadC0de, in the advanced tab, there is a place to set shrotcut, labelled 'Current Shortcut Key'08:34
OxDeadC0degpss23 I can't test right now, I'm saving a menuitem, .. when I clicked save it went to 100% once slowly, then reset to 0 and did it again, then again, now it's on it's 4th run... wth08:35
missanthropicok thanks all bye08:36
gps23OxDeadC0de, no, don't do new menu item,  we don't want two konsoles in the menu08:36
OxDeadC0deI'll undo it when I can, but it's saving.. been saving for 5 minutes..08:36
gps23OxDeadC0de, kill menuedit08:37
OxDeadC0declicking cancel was easier.. hah. ok08:37
gps23OxDeadC0de, trying new menu item08:37
OxDeadC0desry08:37
gps23OxDeadC0de, i too added new menu item for test, its working fine here08:37
gps23now, try to assign shortcut to already existing konsole entry08:38
gps23OxDeadC0de,  konsole is under system submenu08:38
OxDeadC0deoh ok, I see now sorry took me a minute08:39
OxDeadC0deworks for me08:39
OxDeadC0debut I'm in 4.2b208:39
gps23OxDeadC0de, setting shortcut is fine, but its invoking the shortcut which is not working08:40
OxDeadC0degps23 I see what you're saying, but I can't help, it works for me, but I'm using a newer version of kde08:40
gps23OxDeadC0de, no probs, thanks for help08:41
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furiohola alguien tiene problemas con el netbeans 6.5 en ubuntu , a mi no me van los {} []09:01
hyper_ch!es | furio09:03
ubottufurio: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.09:03
furioI have problems with the netbeans 6.5, I try to write {} or [] and its impossible but my keyboard outside of netbeans works good.09:05
grassbaeckerhello everyone09:08
grassbaeckercan somebody help me about xorg.conf09:09
hyper_chfurio: no clue about netbeans09:11
hyper_chgrassbaecker: you know, reading minds over the internet is a skill not many people posses... so it is advised to also tell what the actually question/problem is ;)09:12
grassbaeckeri am seekind the server layout setion but since 8.10 there is no entry09:13
hyper_chserver layout section?09:14
hyper_chthe way x11 workschange a lot in 8.10 (or rather the new kernel)09:14
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grassbaeckeri need to add a entry for my touchsreen there09:15
dragounslt09:36
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laurent_hi there09:52
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dragoun__slt10:05
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antonio_ciao10:12
antonio_!list10:12
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots10:12
black_h67ei10:12
kriohi, there is somebody who want to help me?10:16
kriobecause konqueror it's working too slow10:17
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Mamarokkrio: what is slow exactly?10:17
kriomamarok hi10:18
AtorvancasHi all how make the update in kubuntu version 6.10?10:18
MamarokAtorvancas: do you want to upgrade to another version?10:18
krioi try to open a folder10:18
Atorvancasyes10:18
krioand i wait to time10:18
Mamarokkrio: what version do you use?10:19
krioi have a 7.04 kubuntu and konqueror 3.5.6 i think10:19
MamarokAtorvancas: you can upgrade from 6.10 to 8.04 directly, wait, I give you the link with the howto10:19
Atorvancasok10:19
Atorvancas:)10:19
MamarokAtorvancas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes10:20
Mamarokkrio: what specs is your computer? CPU, RAM?10:21
Atorvancas-thx10:21
kriomamarok: then i try yo create a new folder and it spend more time then usually10:21
krioi use a pentium 3 996 mgherz and 256 mb of ram10:22
Mamarokkrio: and that's the problem I'd say, you don't have much ram, try to close some apps10:22
kriomamarok: but before it work fine!!10:23
Mamarokkrio: did you try to close some running apps?10:23
kriono apps open then klipper and kino and alsa10:23
Mamarokkrio: if you have many running services it slows down your system10:24
Mamarokkrio: start top in a console and check what else is running10:24
kriowhat command i have to do10:25
Mamarokkrio: top10:25
hyper_chkrio: I prefer htop10:25
hyper_chkrio: but you'll have to isntall it first10:25
Mamarokhyper_ch: htop is not installed by default!10:25
hyper_chMamarok: not in *buntu10:25
Mamarokhyper_ch: I do prefer it too, but that's still an additional step10:26
hyper_chMamarok: but it's worth it10:27
hyper_chncurses is much nicer10:27
hyper_chcolors10:27
hyper_chtree view10:27
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Mamarokhyper_ch: that's not the point, trying to check what slows down his system10:28
hyper_chok :)10:28
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kriomamarok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/93676/10:29
Mamarokkrio: kino is huge btw, that will certainly slow down your system10:29
Mamarokkrio: also, this makes you use gnome libs in kde, another overflow10:30
kriomamarok: what i have to do?10:31
Mamarokclose kino and try again10:31
kriomamarok but i do not see the icon of kino and i have not open it10:32
kriomamarok now i try to open and then closed10:32
Mamarokkrio: no, that's of no use :)10:33
krioso what i have to close?10:33
kriosorry mamarok so what i have to do to close it?10:34
Mamarokfrom your top utput it seems your kded is running wild, try to log out and start kde again, might do the trick10:34
Mamarokkinobut first, be aware that you have little ressources, so if your system runs slow its no wonder10:34
Mamarokkrio: ^^10:34
krioyes i know but i use this system and thisconfiguration from september and i do not see the system so slow10:36
kriothe one difference is that i have installed pppoeconf to use directly a adsl conection10:36
Mamarokkrio: well, it sometimes happens when you run for a certain time, consider investing into some additional ram10:37
Mamarokram is cheap nowadays, so this is always a good investment10:37
krioperhaps i have understan what happens, apart the problem whit the less memory10:39
krionow i want to unistall kino and then i 'll made you know10:40
kriomamarock: sorry for my incomprensible englush10:40
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Mamarokkrio: you don't have to uninstall things10:42
kriomamarock it's too late :-)))10:42
Mamarokkrio: if you need help in your mothertongue, consider this:10:42
Mamarok!it | krio10:42
ubottukrio: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)10:42
Mamaroksometimes helpful10:43
krioyes i know and i will try10:43
Mamarokbut of course I don't mind your English :)10:43
krioone to ten how much easy understand me10:44
Mamarokkrio: I understand enough, don't worry :)10:45
kriomamarock: thank for your good manner, but the nose is coming out my video :-))10:47
kriomamarock : pinocchio don't say you nothing ;-))10:48
Mamarokkrio: did you ever try the tab completion to write nicks?10:48
Mamarokkrio: begin to type the name of someone and hit the tabulator button, it will complete automagically10:49
Mamarokkrio: non e una bugia, ti capsico bene :)10:50
hyper_ch!it | Mamarok10:50
ubottuMamarok: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)10:50
Mamarokhyper_ch: :)10:50
hyper_chhow comes you know Italian?10:52
dr_willisLiguini! Fettichini!10:52
dr_willis:)10:52
dr_willisthats about all i know on it.10:52
hyper_chdr_willis: and pasta and pizza10:52
hyper_chdr_willis: and spaghetti10:52
hyper_chdr_willis: and lasagne10:52
hyper_chisn't it: fettucini?10:53
* dr_willis has no idea10:53
dr_willis*ini :)10:53
dr_willisIf it has an I on the end.. its Italian10:53
Mamarokhyper_ch: well, I'm Swiss10:54
Mamarokback to topic, folks :)10:54
dr_willisThe Topic is : the Lack of a Topic.10:54
dr_willis:)10:55
Mamarokdr_willis: topi is: Support!10:55
krioc'mon guys___  fettuccine and pizza and pasta make the worl a better place.10:55
Mamarokkrio: +110:56
* hyper_ch likes self-made Gnocchi very much10:56
hyper_chthe ones you can buy from a store are not nearly as good10:57
Mamarok!ot | hyper_ch, dr_willis, krio10:57
ubottuhyper_ch, dr_willis, krio: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:57
marcin105pi need help my button menu on botom panel is on the right side how change him to left???10:59
hang3ris there any equivalent to a mythtv client for KDE, I cant stand mythtv it gives me the shits11:00
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jhunolddoes anýone know how to re-enable the "thread-view" in kmail shipping with KDE-4.2 beta 2 ? I've only got the new fancy "date-sorted" view...11:01
krioMamarok: i hava'nt see no improvements, unistalling kino11:01
dr_willismarcin105p,  use that little cashew button to 'unlock' the panel and move things around11:01
marcin105pdr_willis: thx it work11:02
krioMamarok: but until two day's ago synstem work propely11:02
Mamarokhang3r: try kdetv, it's in the kde-apps.org11:02
hang3rMamarok: thanks11:02
Mamarokkrio: you don't have to uninstall things, it's enough closing them11:02
Mamarokkrio: as you have little ram, sometimes the system runs wild, so you just close your kde, and log back in, that should do the trick11:03
kriomamarok: i try see you later11:04
Mamarokkrio: just log off and back into kde again11:05
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hang3rMamarok, looks like kdetv has been abandoned, I can't get it to use my tv tuner, doesn't detect it from the looks of it11:25
Mamarokhang3r: yep, seen that too, sry11:25
black_what ??11:26
dr_willisI thought most of those apps just accessed the /dev/video0 stuff   but ive only used MythTV11:27
Malichi! in kde 4.1.. where can i change options like scale and other desktop effects?11:27
MamarokMalic: check the system settings -> desktop11:28
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MamarokMalic: but not all desktop effects are available in 4.1 yet11:29
Malicthank you very much! ..Mamorok11:29
Guest53442alguien conoce como se puede pasar de 8.04 -> 8.10 sin destrozar el sistema11:30
Guest53442?11:30
hang3rdr_willis, thats what they should be doing. v4l-info displays my tuner card and its capabilities, however kdetv doesn't seem to pick the card up11:30
zeltakhi11:30
hyper_ch!es | Guest5344211:30
ubottuGuest53442: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.11:30
zeltakany one know how to change the multimedia OSD vol+ and vol - to use the master volume rather then pcm in kubuntu?11:31
hang3rI actually wouldn't mind getting kdetv to work, it looks like a good little app that for whatever reason was abandoned11:31
hang3rAnd by work I mean re-opening the project11:31
Mamarokhang3r: from the comments on kde-apps.org, it seems someone has already ported it to kde 4, but maybe it changed its name11:32
hang3rthe problem is they don't mention what "name" and Ive search pretty hard for tv related software for kde and cant find much of anything11:33
Mamarokdid you search in kde-apps.org?11:34
Malicanother question: I want to upgade my laptop to Version 8.10. The manager says that i am using the AMD fglrx driver and that no version of this driver is available that works with my hardware in Ubuntu 8.10. Can i continue?11:34
Malici use an ati mobility radeon 970011:35
hang3ryes11:35
m__what are the steps for setting a repository in svn11:35
hang3rMamarok: yes I have searched kde-apps.org11:35
m__i ve svn installed . i want to start using it . are there any steps . simple to follow11:36
Mamarokhang3r: don't know if kplayer might help you, never used it11:36
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Mamarokm__: it has a build in help11:36
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m__Mamarok thanks . but i want the basic steps11:37
hang3rMamarok: Looks like they support it to some extent, I'll give it a shot. I'm still quite happy to continue where they left off with kdetv11:37
m__i ve already used the svnadmin create command11:38
Mamarokm__: there also is an extensive help on the website11:38
Mamarokm__: check here: http.//subversion.tigris.org11:39
m__ok i am checking it .11:40
krioMamarok: i've close pppoeconf and everything is goes well11:45
Mamarokkrio: hm, as I said then11:45
krioMamarok: infact now i 'have the same problem11:46
krioMamarok: so i'll try to find more ram11:46
Mamarokkrio: well, yes, as you have to run ppoeconf to connect to your adsl11:46
Mamarokkrio: this is certainly the best (and cheapest) option11:47
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krioMamarok: ok now i have to go my child are hungry and i have to prepare something to eat11:48
kriobefore that they eat me11:49
Mamarok:)11:49
kriosee you11:49
Mamarokkrio: have fun :)11:49
krioMamarok: ok11:49
Mamarokbbl, cu folks12:04
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Malichi! i cant find the package xserver-xorg-video-radeon. There is only the package xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd available. Where could be the problem?12:34
urvashihi everybody iam gaurav from india!!12:35
hyper_chhi urvashi12:36
ubuntu_Hello.12:40
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VegaObscuraAnyone awake?12:40
hyper_chno12:41
hyper_chwe're all sleeping12:41
MamarokVegaObscura: this is a support channel, just ask your question12:41
VegaObscuraSorry.12:41
VegaObscuraSo I installed Ubuntu a while back12:41
VegaObscuraThen I installed windows.12:41
VegaObscuraAnd now my comp boots up windows by default, without ever going to grub12:41
VegaObscuraCan I fix this without reinstalling ubuntu?12:41
hyper_chVegaObscura: reinstall grub12:42
Mamarok!grub | VegaObscura12:42
ubottuVegaObscura: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:42
VegaObscuraHow do I do that?12:42
VegaObscuraOh, thanks.12:42
Mamarokhyper_ch: no, no need to reinstall!12:42
Mamarok*gosh*12:42
hang3rI've only just noticed, but the default trash can icon looks like it has a penis on it12:42
hang3rhaha12:42
hyper_chMamarok: it's simplest :)12:43
hyper_chMamarok: actually it's a reinstallation of grub12:43
hyper_ch(in the boot sector)12:43
hang3rI'm never going to think of the trashcan the same way again12:43
hang3r:(12:43
hyper_chhang3r: it only looks like it if you have a dirty mind12:44
hang3rhyper_ch: I must have a dirty mind then i guess *sigh*12:44
hyper_chhang3r: or your subconcious is trying to tell you something12:45
hang3rhyper_ch: I think you're looking into it a bit too much12:45
hyper_chhang3r: don't know :)12:46
Mamarokhyper_ch: you are Swiss, aren't you?12:47
hyper_chMamarok: so I am12:48
Mamarokpart of the Swiss Team?12:48
hyper_chnope12:48
Mamarokwhy not?12:48
hyper_chwhy should I?12:48
Mamarokbecause there's a lot of work in Switzerland for Free Software :)12:49
hyper_chMamarok: ??? and you want to say with that?12:49
Mamarokthat was an invitation for you to join the team :)12:50
hyper_chMamarok: what do I want in there?12:50
Mamarokhyper_ch: give it a try, it's fun12:50
hyper_chMamarok: why?12:51
flaviahi, is knetworkmanager the way to get a wireless connection going on kubuntu?12:51
hyper_chflavia: sort of12:52
m__hello i am using rapidsvn . i ve set bookmark repository .  i ve even checked out a new working copy . but cant add project12:54
Mamarokhyper_ch: would be nice to have all active Swiss ubunteros in the team12:55
Mamarokm__: did you read the doc I gave you?12:55
m__:) yes . but i simply need to start working. can t read the entire thing12:55
hyper_chI'm not active... I just spam ubuntuforums.org with a lot of comments and run my own little blog and maybe you know http://repogen.simplylinux.ch12:55
Mamarokm__: do you have permissions for the server?12:56
Mamarokhyper_ch: no, didn't know it, but how could I? It's not advertised as being a Swiss blog12:56
Mamarokhyper_ch: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwissTeam12:57
hyper_chsimplylinux is more of a reminder for myself :)12:57
m__sudo allows you superuser . ive run sudo rapidsvn12:57
hyper_chI'm not even an ubuntu member ;)12:57
Bart79hi all, ANYone familiar with Kopete?12:57
Mamarokm__: you need to have permissions on the svn server12:57
hyper_ch!anyone | Bart7912:57
ubottuBart79: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?12:57
m__ok i would check that again12:57
Mamarokm__: else, check with your svn server admins12:58
flaviahyper_ch: just using knetworkmanager doesnt seem to work, is there any other tool?12:58
m__ok12:58
Mamarokhyper_ch: no need to be a member12:58
Bart79kopete specialists here..??12:59
hyper_chflavia: I'd guess the problem is with the wifi card itself12:59
hyper_ch!anyone | Bart7912:59
hyper_chMamarok: nah, I just don't like to be part of a "team"...12:59
Mamarokhyper_ch: ok12:59
hyper_chflavia: what wifi card have you got?12:59
hyper_chMamarok: but you are free to put repogen on the swiss team blog ;)13:00
Mamarokhyper_ch: nope, you have to do this yourself13:00
hyper_chBart79: don't get into a query13:00
hyper_chBart79: and then apologize for it13:00
hyper_chBart79: if you would be truly sorry, then you wouldn't even start a query13:01
hyper_chMamarok: oh well... then it won't be put on there13:01
hyper_chBart79: once more and you're on my ignore list13:01
MamarokBart79: behave!13:02
MamarokBart79: ask your questions in this channel only please!13:02
Bart79sorry guys, first time13:02
Bart79:-(13:02
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Bart79anyone available for troubleshooting on Kopete?13:04
hyper_ch!question | Bart7913:05
ubottuBart79: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)13:05
flaviahyper_ch: atheros 802.11 seems indeed to be a hard card to get working... I am reading about it on the forums13:05
hyper_chflavia: probably you'll need to use the ndiswrapper13:06
Bart79My webcam works in Kopete, but I can't activate my webcam during a chat nor can I request to open the cam of the other person13:06
Tm_TBart79: with what protocol?13:06
Bart79WLM13:06
Bart79It seems like I'm missing some buttons in the chatwindow (I guess)13:07
hyper_chBart79: probably you get better respons at #kopete13:12
sssssssssssssssshttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ13:25
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Guest61528how do i add repositories ?13:44
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Mamarokafk13:46
hyper_chGuest61528: edit the sources.list file13:46
hyper_chGuest61528: or there's a tool to edit the repos graphically13:46
hang3rGuest61528: K menu->Applications->Settings->Software Sources13:47
Guest61528hyper_ch: i  am new to kubuntu not sure how to do so?13:47
hyper_chGuest61528: what repos do are you looking for?13:47
Guest61528hyper_ch: i want to add one13:47
hang3rGuest61528: Then goto Third Party Repos and add it in there13:48
hyper_chGuest61528: do as hang3r said or manually add it to /etc/apt/sources.list13:48
hang3rerr, actually its Third-Party Software13:48
Guest61528hyper_ch: and where would i find that in kubuntu?13:49
hyper_chGuest61528: that's the file path13:49
hyper_chGuest61528: open a terminal13:49
hyper_chGuest61528: enter:   sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list13:49
hyper_chGuest61528: add the new repositor13:49
hyper_chGuest61528: press ctrl-x (to exit nano) and you'll be prompted to save the file13:50
Guest61528hyper_ch: command not found13:53
hyper_chGuest61528: you're not using kubuntu?13:54
Guest61528hyper_ch: yes i am13:54
hyper_chGuest61528: copy'n'paste what you have written into the terminal13:55
Guest61528hyper_ch: sudo nano/etc/apt/sources.list13:55
hyper_chGuest61528: there's a space between nano and /etc/apt/sources.list13:56
Guest61528ah13:56
hyper_chGuest61528: sudo --> run the following command with superuser rights13:56
hyper_chGuest61528: nano --> a command line text editor13:56
hyper_chGuest61528: /etc/apt/sources.list --> path to the file that shall be edited13:56
badzerooh ja geht gut diese kde 413:58
Tm_Tok13:59
Guest61528hyper_ch: ok  got it up now how  do i add repo?13:59
hyper_ch!de | badzero14:00
ubottubadzero: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, und #edubuntu-de14:00
hyper_chGuest61528: just add a new line there14:00
hyper_chGuest61528: maybe my generator helps you a bit: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch14:00
Guest61528hyper_ch: at the very bottom?14:00
hyper_chGuest61528: yes14:00
badzeroasoo hab geglaubt ich bin in kubuntu-de sory14:00
hyper_chGuest61528: what is the line that you are told to add?14:00
hyper_chGuest61528: it should begin with:   deb http://....14:00
hyper_chGuest61528: or  dep-src http://.....14:01
hyper_chdeb-src of course and not dep-src ^^14:01
Guest61528hyper_ch: deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt etch main #WineHQ - Debian 4.0 "Etch"14:02
Guest61528hyper_ch:  i think this what i need to add14:03
hyper_chGuest61528: that would be for Debian Etch14:03
hyper_chGuest61528: not for Ubuntu14:03
hyper_chGuest61528: what ubuntu version are you using?14:03
Guest61528hyper_ch:  so ubuntu and kubuntu are the same?14:03
hyper_chGuest61528: for repos they are14:04
hyper_chGuest61528: the base system is the same14:04
Guest61528hyper_ch:  im using kubuntu 8.1014:04
hyper_chGuest61528: they juse use different default programs and settings14:04
hyper_chGuest61528: add this then:   deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt intrepid main14:04
hyper_chGuest61528: and in the terminal run then this command (best to copy'n'paste it):      wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -14:04
Guest61528hy still mot sure how to add it?14:05
hyper_chGuest61528: just add this line at the end of that file14:05
lexerвау14:05
hyper_chGuest61528: use copy'n'paste14:05
lexerа кто по-русски говорит....14:06
lexer????14:06
hyper_ch!ru | lexer14:06
ubottulexer: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke14:06
Guest61528hyper_ch: now how do i exit repos?14:07
hyper_chGuest61528: press:  ctrl-x14:08
hyper_chGuest61528: that will leave nano14:08
hyper_chGuest61528: and you will be asked if you want to save the file "y"14:08
hyper_chGuest61528: and what the filename shall be "[enter ]"14:08
hyper_chGuest61528: once you're done, run:   cat /etc/apt/soures.list   to see whether it was really added14:09
hyper_chGuest61528: then run this command:  wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -14:09
hyper_chGuest61528: (copy and paste it)14:09
hyper_chGuest61528: and then you need to update the sources14:09
hyper_chGuest61528: sudo apt-get update14:09
hyper_chGuest61528: and then you can install wine from the newly added repos14:09
hyper_chGuest61528: sudo apt-get install wine14:10
hyper_chGuest61528: it works?14:14
Guest61528hyper_ch: still trying to add repo14:16
hyper_chGuest61528: you have any problems somewhere?14:16
Guest61528hyper_ch:  isnt there an easier way?14:16
hyper_chGuest61528: "easier" always depends14:16
hyper_chGuest61528: "easier" means that you have a comparison of different methods and you have apply some metrics to rank the outcome for each14:17
hyper_chGuest61528: so "easier" is just dependant on those metrics and there is no "absolut easier" way14:17
Guest61528hyper_ch: i added it to the list and now im confused14:20
hyper_chGuest61528: confused about?14:21
Guest61528hyper_ch:  y it isnt working14:21
tomusI've been looking at KDE 4.2, and it looks like it might be ready for daily use... has anybody tried the beta?  How soon will 8.10 update to 4.2?14:21
hyper_chGuest61528: I don't know what you did so far14:22
hyper_chGuest61528: I don't know where yuo are14:22
hyper_chGuest61528: the whole thing would not even take 1 minute14:22
hyper_chtomus: 8.10 won't officialy go for 4.214:22
hyper_chtomus: but you can use the PPA repo14:22
tomusSounds like I should skip 8.10 all together14:23
hyper_chtomus: or use ppa repos like I do14:23
tomusWhen is a usable version of Kubuntu be released?14:23
tdi_ktomus: what's unusable in kde 4.1 ?14:24
hyper_chtomus: usable depends pretty much on the metrics applied to measure it14:24
tomushyper_ch: how well do the ppa repos work w/ other packages?14:24
hyper_chtomus: works fine14:24
hyper_chtomus: and I also can recommend the amarok neon project ;)14:24
tomusI'm looking for quailty and stablity, as well as some basic features, like being able to put the pannel on the side, rather than the bottom14:25
hyper_chthe amarok version in the official 8.10 repos lacks some basic things14:25
hyper_chtomus: then you should use debian instead of ubuntu14:25
tomusdebian?14:26
hyper_chyes, debian14:26
Guest61528hyper_ch: i added the repo then when i check with cat to see if its there it says No such file or directory14:26
cloud한글?14:26
hyper_chGuest61528: what did you issue exactely?14:27
hyper_chGuest61528: copy and paste the command you have used14:27
tomusit seems like most of the packages and info these days is for ubuntu distros14:27
hyper_ch!zn | cloud14:27
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about zn14:27
hyper_ch!jp | cloud14:27
ubottucloud: 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい14:27
tomuscloud: sorry, I don't know Korean, but I like Korea very much14:27
Guest61528hyper_ch:  cat: /etc/apt/soures.list14:27
cloudthanks!14:28
hyper_chGuest61528: well, check again what command I have given you14:28
hyper_ch!kn | cloud14:28
bazhang!ko | cloud14:28
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kn14:28
ubottucloud: For Korean help, /join #ubuntu-ko14:28
bazhangits ko14:28
hyper_ch:)14:28
hyper_chGuest61528: when you are given commands, you can just copy and paste them....14:29
hyper_chGuest61528: that way you will get correct spelling and stuff14:29
tomushyper_ch: thanks for the tip, ~cheers14:29
hyper_chtomus: debian is not so up-to-date as ubuntu but it is stable.... very stable14:29
Guest61528hyper_ch:  i rechecked and yes i did copy and paste14:30
hyper_chGuest61528: no, you did not14:30
hyper_chGuest61528: what you pasted here is not what I have given you14:30
Guest61528hyper_ch:  i know that is what it is telling me back14:31
hyper_chGuest61528: I asked you what command you have entered14:31
hyper_chGuest61528: and you have given me:  [15:28] <Guest61528> hyper_ch:  cat: /etc/apt/soures.list14:32
Guest61528hyper_ch:  cat /etc/apt/soures.list14:32
hyper_chGuest61528: good... now I made a mistake.... it's:   sources   and not soures14:32
hyper_chGuest61528: cat /etc/apt/sources.list14:33
Guest61528hyper_ch:  it showed up that time14:33
hyper_chGuest61528: good14:34
hyper_chGuest61528: now import the gpg keys by issuing:    wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -14:34
Guest61528hyper_ch:  its working so far14:36
hyper_chGuest61528: now update the list:   sudo apt-get update14:37
hyper_chGuest61528: and then install the new wine:  sudo apt-get install wine14:37
corigo2How do I define the default media player for different file formats, e.g. AVI, WMV, etc. (I have multiple players installed)14:39
Guest61528hy thank you for you help it worked14:39
hyper_chGuest61528: it works?14:44
hyper_chj #kde14:44
dr_williscorigo2,  you can right click on a .avi  (or whatever) and set the default in the properties tabs I recall14:46
Schuenemann!info nfs-utils14:56
ubottuPackage nfs-utils does not exist in intrepid14:56
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eagles0513875im having issues with vnc in intrepid and kde 4.2 beta 2 as well as 4.1.314:58
eagles0513875when i vnc into my linux box with krfb it shows up but its like i have no control when i have it setup for full control once i type my password it also shows up blurry and i cant click on anything14:59
_2anyone know of a linux distro that doesn't compile against selinux ?15:09
eagles0513875!info selinux15:09
ubottuselinux (source: selinux): Security-Enhanced Linux runtime support. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.3 (intrepid), package size 9 kB, installed size 124 kB15:09
mrunagiare restricted drivers suppose to be rocket science?15:09
eagles0513875_2 y dont you want it compiled against selinux15:09
eagles0513875!info ubuntu-restricted-extras | mrunagi15:10
ubottuubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 25 (intrepid), package size 4 kB, installed size 32 kB15:10
eagles0513875mrunagi that has them all flash java etc15:10
mrunagii was talking about restricted drivers for my video card15:10
mrunagii cant seem to activate it15:10
eagles0513875O_o mrunagi does it tell you the name of the package15:10
eagles0513875mrunagi if so you can use apt-get to install it15:11
_2mrunagi long story,  (think tin foil hat)  but i would like a linux that doesn't require libselinux1.15:11
mrunagiall it says is nvidia accelerate graphics driver (version 177) [recommended]15:11
eagles0513875let me do some digging for ya mrunagi15:11
delicowahi people15:12
delicowai wanna be a part of the kubuntu development team how doi start15:12
eagles0513875!development15:12
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about development15:12
_2!contribute15:12
ubottuTo contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate15:12
eagles0513875mrunagi you want nvidia-glx-177 :)15:13
mrunagicouldnt find that package15:13
eagles0513875mrunagi run an apt-cache search nvidia and you should see it i might have mis copied the name since im connected to my linux box over ssh15:13
mrunaginvidia-177-modaliases15:14
mrunagi?15:14
eagles0513875dunno if you look up there is another one nvdia glx 17715:15
mrunagisays its installed15:15
mrunagibut it isnt activated15:15
eagles0513875mrunagi reboot15:15
mrunagino no it didnt install it said its already installed15:15
eagles0513875mrunagi run a glxinfo and see what direct rendering says15:15
Guest61528how do i uninstall adobe flashplayer?15:16
mrunagisays yes15:16
eagles0513875mrunagi then the driver is installed :)15:16
eagles0513875!flash15:16
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash15:16
mrunagihrm15:16
mrunagii dunno15:16
mrunagithe scren gets artifacts when i type15:17
mrunagiand i bet you desktop effects wont work15:17
eagles0513875mrunagi did you restart it normally after driver installtion it requires a reboot15:17
eagles0513875Guest61528 try the link above15:17
mrunagiit forces you to15:17
eagles0513875ya usually it pops up saying reboot required15:18
mrunagiso i have to restart again15:18
eagles0513875mrunagi i would try wouldnt hurt15:18
mrunagibrb15:18
Guest61528what would be the best distro for a pIII with 512   ram?15:19
eagles0513875kubuntu Guest6152815:19
eagles0513875Guest61528 what are you wanting to do with it first of all15:19
eagles0513875for a server i would recommend ubuntu server15:20
hyper_chas server I'd recommend debian15:20
eagles0513875hyper_ch whats wrong with ubuntu-server15:20
Guest61528eagles0513875: as much as possible15:20
hyper_cheagles0513875: I like stable servers15:20
hyper_cheagles0513875: and debian is just rock stable15:20
eagles0513875hyper_ch and ubuntu server is as well15:20
hyper_cheagles0513875: older packages but on a server you don't need newest whizz....15:21
eagles0513875Guest61528 so you plan on using this as a server right15:21
acke_hey guys, in gnome usb is mounted with gnome-volume-manager, how is that done in kde?15:21
eagles0513875Guest61528 you need to try out various distros15:21
Guest61528eagles0513875: no just a pc15:21
eagles0513875acke_ this is kubuntu channel #ubuntu would be where u wanna go15:21
eagles0513875Guest61528 i like kubuntu15:22
hyper_chp3, 512 mb ram.... hmmm... I'd rather use xubuntu or arch with kde15:22
mrunagirestricted manager still doesnt show any drivers activated15:22
Guest61528eagles0513875: im currently using kubuntu but seems a little slow15:22
eagles0513875i dunno mrunagi that is weird might want to check for bugs against jockey-kde15:22
hyper_chGuest61528: if you like KDE then I'd try Arch with KDE.... should be faster.... but it's not "as easy" as kubuntu15:23
eagles0513875Guest61528 there is a way you can rebuild kde and optimize it for your hardware15:23
acke_eagles0513875: yes, since you guys in kubuntu dont answer kubuntu qauestions?15:23
mrunagithis is annoying15:23
eagles0513875acke_ we do15:23
eagles0513875mrunagi :(15:23
acke_eagles0513875: you make me confused15:23
eagles0513875acke_ join the #ubuntu channel for gnome suppor15:23
acke_eagles0513875: the ppls at ubuntu just told me to ask my question here. and y make me want to ask ubuntu about kubuntu questins15:24
Guest61528eagles0513875:  and how would i go about doing that couse i like kubuntu?15:24
acke_how does usb drives get automounted in kubuntu15:24
acke_?15:24
eagles0513875!automount15:24
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about automount15:24
eagles0513875acke_ not sure15:25
eagles0513875Guest61528 is this nick registered15:25
_2seems that asking if anyone knows .* is taboo in #ubuntu      shame too, there are some really nice people in there some times.  </rant>15:25
eagles0513875_2 thats offtopic bro15:25
eagles0513875Guest61528 did you get my pm15:26
_2sorry   s=taboo=offtopic=g15:26
mrunagiwow my xorg has very little in it15:26
hyper_chshouldn't external drives just popup and then you can mount them?15:26
eagles0513875hyper_ch normally they do15:27
acke_hyper_ch: i want them automounted15:27
hyper_chso, need to add another thing to my repo generator :)15:27
acke_possible?15:27
hyper_chacke_: it is15:27
BluesKajhiyas15:27
hyper_chhello BluesKaj, welcome to  #ubuntu. If you have a question, don't hestitate to ask. I hope you enjoy your stay here15:28
_2!ntfs | acke_15:28
ubottuacke_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE15:28
eagles0513875BluesKaj can i pm ya with a weird question15:28
BluesKajjust ask here , eagles15:29
eagles0513875when i vnc into my linux box with krfb it shows up but its like i have no control when i have it setup for full control once i type my password it also shows up blurry and i cant click on anything15:29
BluesKajsrry eagles ...vnc isn't my strong suit . maybe someone else can help15:30
_2also, sometimes, putting things in the form of a question helps.  but not always15:31
_2so anyone in here know of a linux distro that isn't compiled against libselinux1 ?15:38
eagles0513875Daisuke_Ido can u help me15:39
mrunagiwhy is my xorg so empty15:41
eagles0513875mrunagi dunno15:43
marius_hello people15:43
marius_pls help15:43
acke_i am trying to automount usbdrives, some webpages mentions umask= 0 0 0, some mention fmask and dmask, anyone knows the difference or the purpose of those options?15:44
marius_webcam not working in kopete under kubuntu 8.1015:44
_2mrunagi that's the new xorg way,  moving toward a totally automated configuration without user control   (like windows)    at the present you can still use the config file and specify anything you want,  but the dirrection is to totally obsolete the config15:44
marius_any known sollutions_15:44
marius_?15:44
BluesKajmrunagi, intrepid relies on HAL generic drivers at the outset15:44
_2!webcam | does this have a trouble shooting section ?15:44
ubottudoes this have a trouble shooting section ?: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras15:44
mrunagisigh...........i just want to use my video  drivers i cant seem to activate them15:45
BluesKajmrunagi, nvidia ati or ...?15:45
mrunaginvidia15:45
BluesKajwhich nvidia ?15:46
mrunagi7800 gs15:47
helio_quit15:47
mrunagi7800 go gs15:47
marius_well, the problem is only with kubuntu 8.10, my webcam showed fine in kubuntu and ubuntu 8.0415:47
marius_now it only shows some colours15:48
marius_no shapes15:48
BluesKajmrunagi, open adept and type you card model into the searchbar , then look in properties to see if your card is listed15:48
mrunagithe drivers are installed15:49
mrunagijust not activated15:49
BluesKajok , then open kmenu/applications/system/hardware drivers to activate15:50
acke_is there a way to test the configurations in fstab without rebooting the comp?15:50
eagles0513875when i vnc into my linux box with krfb it shows up but its like i have no control when i have it setup for full control once i type my password it also shows up blurry and i cant click on anything15:50
mrunagithats the issue, it doesnt activate15:50
mrunagiit says downloading for a second then goes away and then nothing15:50
acke_where does logs from when fstab is run at startup be found?15:51
eagles0513875acke_ /var/logs15:52
_2acke_ is that logged ?15:53
mrunagiany ideas BluesKaj?15:54
_2acke_ i thought mount only outputted if it failed so there shouldn't be a log specific to fstab15:54
Xand3rhey ho15:54
Xand3rwhere i can get qdbusviewer15:54
_2btw 'fstab' is never "run"  it's a config file    fstab=file system table15:55
_2acke_ at any rate you can do something like   sudo mount -va15:56
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mrunagiso how are the desktop effects in intrepid...........id love to see them but unfortunately i cant lol15:57
acke__2 thx15:57
ole__hej een eller anden mrevidende end jeg. Jeg søger een der ved noget om compilering og makefiler15:57
BluesKajmrunagi, I think you have the wrong driver ...have you checked adept listing or nvidia 7800gs ?15:57
BluesKajor=for15:58
mrunagithere is no listing for 7800gs15:58
_2ole__  LC_ALL='C' <your command here>15:58
BluesKajdid you check properties of the nvidia -kernel sources ?15:58
mrunagiwhere do i do that15:59
eagles0513875BluesKaj when i had intrepid on my desktop in europe didnt have this issue with my 8800gt O_o16:00
BluesKajin adept , when you type nvidia 7800gs , there will be a list generated called kernel-souces16:00
acke_aaargh i am hateing right now.. ...... the fuckn website says use this command to get uuids ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ , then when ive added it to fstab, and run mount -a , it says that the uuids doesnt exist.. how the hell should shit work if it doesnt work... gRRRRFRGRGRGRG16:01
mrunagii dont see kernel sources16:01
acke_*FruStraTioN*16:01
eagles0513875!language | acke_16:01
ubottuacke_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.16:01
acke_and as always i dont have time to really fix stuff.. have to go.. TT16:02
BluesKajmrunagi, are you using 'search' ?16:02
mrunagiyes16:02
mrunagii see nvidia-common *-71-madaliases -96 -173 -177, xserver-xorg-video-nv smartdimmer jockey-kde jockey-common16:02
_2so,  research indicates that debian made coreutils depend on libselinux1  for the sole purpose of developing a debian selinux,   i.e. the only way selinux could be developed was if libselinux1 was absolutely required, so now there is no option, if you use debain or any dirivative, you are forced to use libselinux1. like it or not.16:03
BluesKajmrunagi, you don't see a list on the right like nvidia71-kernel-source ?16:03
deamoonguys plz tell me how can i install something from .tar file?16:04
deamoonfile name is Vuze_Installer.tar.bz2 how can i install it?16:04
marius_ppl help with my webcam in kubuntu 8.1016:05
mrunagino16:05
marius_the 8.10 cannot show my webcam properly16:05
deamoonany 1 plz16:06
hyper_chdeamoon: azureus is in the repos16:06
hyper_chmarius_: is your webcam supported?16:07
deamoonbut not the version 416:07
bazhang!webcam > marius_16:07
ubottumarius_, please see my private message16:07
BluesKajmrunagi, then you need to upgrade your sources list , by enabling the thirdparty software tab in adept and all the sources in that list16:07
deamoonhow can i upgrade it16:07
deamoon?16:07
marius_well, it worked very well under kubuntu and ubuntu 8.0416:08
marius_the problem is with the 8.1016:08
hyper_chdeamoon: you should stick to the versions in the repos -16:08
deamoonii c16:08
deamoonok16:08
deamoonty16:08
deamoonhyper16:08
BluesKajmrunagi, then do a : sudo apt-get update , in the konsole16:08
hyper_chmarius_: hmmm..... is the webcam even recognized?16:08
hyper_chdeamoon: you can try to compile it on your own... but it requires more knowleged and you might be required to compile dependencies and stuff16:09
marius_well, it shows some colours and some fade shapes16:09
deamoondamn i have no clue how to do that16:09
marius_but it works super under previous versions16:09
deamooncool16:09
deamoonits ok16:09
deamoonthan16:09
hyper_chdeamoon: it's not THAT difficult... well, it depends on what you compile... I use rtorrent as torrent client and it's easy to compile16:10
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deamoonr torrent petter than vuze?16:10
deamooni got k torrent but i doesn work16:10
_2www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/selinux-guide/selg-preface-0011.html  <<< note the arguments against DAC are the primary arguments for MAC     but the args against DAC are as lame as they come, namely "someone might misconfigure their system, and make a security breach"    i'm like "so?" is this just another "big brother watching out for all the lesser humans" ?16:11
mrunagiok its updated16:12
hyper_chdeamoon: I like rtorrent because it's command line only and hence very light16:13
hyper_chdeamoon: and I can fully control it when I have ssh access16:13
deamooni c16:13
deamoonim not that good16:13
hyper_chdeamoon: you don't need to be good at it16:13
deamoonso its better to stick to vuze than16:13
hyper_chdeamoon: well, depends on what you want to do ;)16:13
deamooni cant do fok all16:14
deamoonlol16:14
deamoonlinux is like deep forest for me16:14
mrunagia forest that likes to burst into flames randomly16:14
deamoonim getting use to it16:14
hyper_chdeamoon: what do you need the torrent client to do?16:14
deamoonbut its hard if i need to do stuff16:14
deamoondownload16:15
deamoonand seed16:15
hyper_chdeamoon: only be challenging things you improve your knowledge :)16:15
SchuenemannI believe any client does that16:15
hyper_chdeamoon: if that's all, then rtorrent is not difficult16:15
deamoonwhat else i can do with it16:15
deamoon?16:16
Schuenemannhave you tried ktorrent?16:16
deamoonyes16:16
Schuenemannyou didn't like it?16:16
deamoonit stoped working16:16
Schuenemannwhat do you mean?16:16
deamoondunno y16:16
deamoonwell its not downloading anythink16:17
deamoonat all16:17
deamoonsays no seeds or something else16:17
hyper_chdeamoon: people like to move completed torrents into other directories16:17
hyper_chdeamoon: or make time based activation of certain torrents16:17
hyper_chor or or16:17
Schuenemanntry adding a torrent with seeds and see if it works16:17
deamoonwell ys i need to move tu specified folder fortorrents that i have made16:18
hyper_chdeamoon: rtorrent isn't really diffcult16:18
deamoonok lets try if u cn help me16:18
hyper_chdeamoon: it's actually very powerfull but it requires a bit of learning16:18
hyper_chdeamoon: well, you should also learn about screen if you want to run rtorrent ;)16:19
hyper_chdeamoon: but that's simple16:19
hyper_chdeamoon: first:   sudo apt-get install screen16:19
_2wow, the more i read about selinux the more i hate it.16:19
_2i'm off to build a kernel without MAC support16:19
hyper_chdeamoon: second, install rtorrent from svn (or rather compile it). I made a little howto here:  http://www.howtoforge.com/compile-rtorrent-from-svn-ubuntu-8.04-hardy-heron16:20
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hyper_chdeamoon: no private support16:22
hyper_chdeamoon: yes, rtorrent is independant from the desktop environment installed16:22
hyper_chdeamoon: it runs in the shell16:22
holei have ndiswrapper running and my hardware is recognized but i'm still nnot clear how to list my available wireless networks16:22
hyper_chhole: no clue about ndiswrapper... does network manager not recognize any networks?16:23
holenetwork manager is under system>preferences right?16:25
hyper_chhole: should be in your system tray16:26
NagWolfhello16:26
holeright now i'm wired in to mom's network but i am tired if getting taken off because she needs the wire16:26
hyper_chdeamoon: still here?16:32
deamoonyes16:33
deamoonstill doing16:33
deamoonit16:33
hyper_chdeamoon: just checking :)16:33
deamoonlol16:33
deamoonhave no idea what im doing lol16:33
deamoonwell i stuck on no1216:35
hyper_chdeamoon: let me check16:36
deamoonk16:36
hyper_chdeamoon: why are you stuck there?16:36
hyper_chdeamoon: just copy the whole thing and paste it into the terminal16:36
deamoondunno i done that and on 13 nothing happening16:37
hyper_chdeamoon: not much should happen16:37
hyper_chdeamoon: pastebine the output of it16:37
hyper_chdeamoon: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com16:37
holei have ndiswrapper running and my hardware is recognized but i'm still nnot clear how to list my available wireless networks16:37
hyper_chhole: found the network manager int he system try?16:38
cuzntok so how come my deaktop settings do not save after exit16:38
hyper_chcuznt: what settings?16:38
deamoonhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com:80/93781/16:38
hyper_chdeamoon: looks good :) continue :)16:38
deamoonoh16:39
holeSystem>Preferences>Network Configuration ????16:39
deamoonlol16:39
cuzntlike my task bar goes away16:39
cuzntmy tray manager16:39
cuzntmy clock16:39
cuzntmy mind... no j/k16:39
hyper_chhole: I don't use kubuntu network manager anymore... all I know it should be in the system try16:39
cuzntim beta 4.2.x16:39
hyper_chcuznt: so am I16:39
hyper_chcuznt: works great16:39
holei am not using kubuntu i am usung Un=buntu16:40
cuzntwas kidding about my mind only16:40
holeoops Ubuntu16:40
hyper_ch!ubuntu | hole16:40
ubottuhole: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Ubuntu comes with the GNOME interface. To install that from Kubuntu install the ubuntu-desktop package.16:40
hyper_chhmmm16:40
hyper_chhole: try #ubuntu16:40
holethey werent any help either16:41
hyper_chhole: try WICD then16:41
hyper_chhole: that's what I use now16:41
hyper_chdeamoon: before running then rtorrent at the end, let me know :)16:42
deamoonok16:42
deamoonok now it says run it16:43
hyper_chdeamoon: you're at step 19 now?16:43
deamoonyes16:43
deamoon:D16:43
kovacs_hy16:43
hyper_chdeamoon: good16:43
hyper_chdeamoon: so now we create the config file16:43
hyper_chdeamoon: touch ~/.rtorrent.rc16:43
kovacs_help pls16:43
g_anyone here using kde 4.2 beta 2? if so do you know the work around to fixing the issues with not being able to login after the screen locks on you?  Its super annoying16:44
deamoonok16:44
kovacs_Nibbles game not playin...16:44
hyper_chdeamoon: open it in your editor16:44
hyper_chdeamoon: probably:   kate ~/.rtorrent.rc16:44
deamoonlike?16:44
hyper_chdeamoon: and then paste this into it:  http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/browser/trunk/rtorrent/doc/rtorrent.rc?rev=latest16:44
deamoonshould i close that termional?16:44
hyper_chdeamoon: no, leave it open16:44
hyper_chdeamoon: then we make some adjustments to it ;)16:45
hyper_chgot the file open and pasted that thing?16:45
deamoonits emty16:45
hyper_chdeamoon: yeah, "touch" created an empty file16:45
hyper_chdeamoon: and on the page above yuo have the default config file16:45
hyper_chdeamoon: but it needs some tweaking16:46
kovacs_HEYYY16:46
hyper_ch!shout | kovacs_16:46
ubottukovacs_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.16:46
hyper_chdeamoon: copied that config file into the empty file?16:46
deamoonshould i seave as? and paste to that address16:46
deamoonyes16:46
kovacs_ohh sorry16:46
hyper_chdeamoon: open that URL in the browser16:46
hyper_chin there you have like line 1 .... line xxx16:46
hyper_chjust copy the content of that into your empty file16:47
deamoonand save it16:47
hyper_chdeamoon: actually, it's not good... it will copy the line numbers also16:47
deamoonright16:47
hyper_chdeamoon: don't save it yet16:47
deamoonk16:47
hyper_chdeamoon: I'll upload my config file and we modify then that16:47
deamoonk16:48
hyper_chdeamoon: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/93783/16:48
hyper_chdeamoon: copy and paste that into the .rtorrent.rc file16:49
hyper_chdeamoon: don't save it yet16:49
hyper_chdeamoon: then what is your maximum upload speed on your internet connection?16:49
deamooni didnt coppy numper16:49
deamoonis it ok16:49
deamoon?16:50
deamoonnumber16:50
deamoonall this 1.2.3 etc16:50
hyper_chdeamoon: which version did you now copy and paste?16:50
deamoonyours16:50
hyper_chgood16:50
v-doggevening folks16:50
hyper_chdeamoon: now, what is your maximum upload speed on your internet connection?16:50
deamooni just didnt coppy line numbers okm16:51
deamoon?16:51
deamoon2.5mb16:51
hyper_chdeamoon: yeah, you don't need the line numbers16:51
deamoonk16:51
hyper_chdeamoon: that's your upload?16:51
hyper_chwow16:51
deamoonyes16:51
hyper_chdeamoon: find the line:  upload_rate16:51
hyper_chdeamoon: found it?16:52
deamoonnah not yet16:52
v-doggwhat file manager would you recommend for an ex-windows use (for kde 3.5). Dolphin lack a few important features like tree view and up-folder button16:52
hyper_chdeamoon: line 1816:52
hyper_chdeamoon: upload_rate16:52
g_Is there a way to find a program that's installed on your system with a simple search feature by now?16:53
deamoonfound it16:53
hyper_chg_: what program?16:53
g_Ive got programs installed on the system but when i do a search for them they never find them what gives?16:53
hyper_chdeamoon: change the 55 to 20516:53
deamoondone16:53
hyper_chthen three lines below, you have directory16:54
deamoonyes16:54
hyper_chdeamoon: you see that?16:54
deamoonyes16:54
Clydev-dogg, Konqueror16:55
deamoondirectory = /media/rtorrent16:55
deamoonthat yes16:55
hyper_chok, where do you want to have the base directory (where shall torrents be downloaded to?16:55
deamoonto deamoon torrents16:55
hyper_chdeamoon: what folder?16:55
deamoontorrents16:56
deamoonthat the folder name16:56
deamooniv got16:56
hyper_chdeamoon: torrents on your desktop or torrents in your homefolder?16:56
deamoonhome16:56
hyper_chdeamoon: then change it to:   directory = /home/deamoon/torrents16:56
mrunagidesktop effects still wont work which leads me to believe that my drivers still arent working16:57
deamoondone16:57
hyper_chdeamoon: now, do you want certain config files and stuff also have as subfolder in the torrent directory or do you want to use another directory for that?16:57
hyper_chdeamoon: I chose to have everything in one place16:57
hyper_chdeamoon: you can do it differently16:57
hyper_chdeamoon: e.g.   session = /home/deamoon/rtorrent/session16:58
deamoonill do as u have16:58
deamoonles problems for me16:58
deamoonlol16:58
hyper_chdeamoon: or in the same dir:   session = /home/deamoon/torrents/session16:58
deamoonsame16:58
hyper_chdeamoon: the session is just 5 lines below the directory16:58
hyper_chdeamoon: change it there accordingly16:58
deamoonsession = /home/deamoon/torrents/session change to this right16:59
hyper_chdeamoon: good, now 4 lines further down you have this:   schedule = watch_directory,5,5,load_start=/media/rtorrent/watchlist/*.torrent16:59
hyper_chdeamoon: change that to   schedule = watch_directory,5,5,load_start=/home/deamoon/torrents/watchlist/*.torrent17:00
deamoonok17:00
deamoondone17:00
hyper_chthen 20 lines down, you see:   bind = 10.0.0.1017:01
deamoonok17:01
hyper_chdeamoon: do you have just one network card in your computer and you connect only to one network?17:01
deamoonyes17:02
hyper_chdeamoon: then you can delete that line :)17:02
deamoonjust that17:02
hyper_chdeamoon: just the     bind = 10.0.0.1017:02
deamoonok17:02
deamoondone17:02
hyper_chdeamoon: the other lines have a   # at the start17:02
deamoonyes17:02
hyper_chdeamoon: that means that is just a comment and not a configuration17:02
deamoonok17:03
hyper_chnow down to line 8717:03
deamooni c17:03
hyper_chdeamoon: dht_port = 688117:03
hyper_chdeamoon: this is the standard port... if you have problems with running rtorrent because your ISP blocks it, you might need to change it. I would leave it as it is right now17:03
deamoonfound it17:03
deamoonk17:04
hyper_chthen go right to the end17:04
hyper_chon line 111 and 112 you have view_filter = ....17:04
deamoonk17:04
hyper_chyou can delete those two also... this is a custom modfication of mine17:04
v-doggClyde: thanks. konqueror is ok.17:04
deamoonwhat they do?17:04
hyper_chdeamoon: I do have a set of "static" torrents that I seed endlessly17:04
hyper_chdeamoon: and with that filter you can set them into a seperate view17:05
hyper_chdeamoon: so you can "differentiate" between "normal" and "static" torrents17:05
hyper_chdeamoon: in order to use that you'd need to modify the source17:05
deamoonbut it doesn do any restrictions right17:05
hyper_chdeamoon: so either delete those two lines17:05
hyper_chdeamoon: comment them out by adding a # at the front17:06
hyper_chdeamoon: or alter the source17:06
hyper_chdeamoon: and recompile it17:06
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hyper_chbut don't leave them as it is17:06
hyper_chmodifying the course would not be difficult17:07
deamooni comment them17:07
hyper_chbut if you don't know that there are torrents that you will keep seeding forever, then there's no point of having that enabled :)17:07
hyper_chand the last two lines are entries on custom throttling of individual torrents17:07
deamoonok17:07
hyper_chmy_throttle --> the name that is displayed in rtorrent17:07
hyper_chand the 5 is the speed to which it gets throttled17:07
hyper_chthat would be 5kByte17:08
hyper_chdeamoon: now the most important things are changed, you can save the file now17:08
deamoonso should i svae or save as17:08
hyper_chnow we need to create the according directories17:08
hyper_chsave17:09
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deamoonk17:09
hyper_chdeamoon: if you run now:     cat /home/deamoon/.rtorrent.rc17:09
hyper_chdeamoon: will it list the content of the file?17:09
deamoonits in terminal17:09
hyper_chdeamoon: so it did list the content in the teriminal?17:09
deamoonyes17:10
hyper_chdeamoon: good17:10
hyper_chdeamoon: now run:  mkdir /home/deamoon/torrents17:10
hyper_chdeamoon: and:  mkdir /home/deamoon/torrents/session17:10
hyper_chdeamoon: and:  mkdir /home/deamoon/torrents/watchfolder17:10
deamooni got that dir already17:10
hyper_chit's ok if you have it already :)17:11
hyper_chdeamoon: the session and watchfolder shouldn't exist yet I guess17:11
deamoonno17:11
deamoonnot yet17:12
hyper_chdeamoon: so you created them now?17:12
deamoon1 sec plz17:12
deamoonok done17:14
hyper_chgood :)17:14
deamoonsry for delay17:14
hyper_chnow start rtorrent by issuing  "rtorrent" in the terminal17:14
deamoonk17:15
hyper_chdeamoon: on the bottom, does it give any error message?17:15
YermekКуда я попал? :)17:15
hyper_ch!ru | Yermek17:15
ubottuYermek: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke17:15
deamoonno17:15
hyper_chdeamoon: good, now quit rtorrent by issuing:   ctrl+q17:15
deamoondone17:16
hyper_chdeamoon: now let's do some magic :)17:16
deamoonlol17:16
deamoonk17:16
hyper_chdeamoon: download this file   http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/simple/intrepid/desktop/kubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent  into the /home/deamoon/torrents/watchfolder17:16
hyper_chjust as test :)17:16
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hyper_chif you downloaded the .torrent file into the watchfolder, restart rtorrent17:17
deamoongrrr vuze grab it17:17
hyper_chdeamoon: ^^17:17
deamooni need to remove vuze now17:17
hyper_chdeamoon: :)17:17
deamoontell me how17:17
deamoonplz17:17
hyper_chdeamoon: issue:  sudo apt-get remove vuze17:18
hyper_chdeamoon: in the terminal17:18
deamoonk17:18
hyper_chdeamoon: but close it first17:18
hyper_chbtw, congratulations for your first compiling :)17:19
deamoondoes it removed all files17:19
deamoonty17:19
deamoonlol17:19
hyper_chdeamoon: no, it leaves the config files17:19
deamoonk17:19
hyper_chand downloaded stuff17:19
deamoonshould i remove em17:19
deamoon217:19
hyper_chdeamoon: if you don't need those files anmore, remove them17:20
deamooni still got vuze17:21
hyper_chdeamoon: what have you still got?17:21
deamoonhow come17:21
hyper_chdeamoon: vuze might just be the metapackage17:21
hyper_chdeamoon: also run:   sudo apt-get remove azureus17:21
deamoonok17:22
deamoonlets try now17:22
hyper_ch:)17:22
hyper_chyou could also use the terminal to download that file ;)17:22
deamoongot error17:22
deamoonnow17:22
hyper_chwhat error?17:22
deamoonPlugin loader could not load the plugin:17:23
deamoonkget_bittorrentfactory17:23
hyper_chdeamoon: ok, open this in a browser:  http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/ubuntu-cdimage/intrepid/17:23
hyper_chdeamoon: what browser do you use?17:24
deamoonfirefox17:24
hyper_chdeamoon: you can right-click and select save to, right?17:25
deamoonyesd17:25
hyper_chdeamoon: select one of the .torrent files and save it into the watchfolder17:25
deamoonk17:25
hyper_chdeamoon: well care later about the .torrent files and their link in kde17:25
hyper_chdeamoon: ok, now restart rtorrent by issuing  "rtorrent" in the terminal17:26
deamoon1 sec17:27
hyper_chdeamoon: now it should auto-load that downloaded .torrent file and start downloading17:27
deamoon1 sec plz17:27
coolhello , can I somehow get kbluetoothd to work in 8.10 ? what's wrong with it?17:28
flaviahi, so I got wifi working fine, only problem it's not connecting automatically at boot time. any ideas?17:28
deamoonok17:28
deamoonrestart it17:29
deamoonand file in whatch17:29
deamoonfolder17:29
Tm_Tcool: the service behind it, bluez, got changed bit too soon for us, so kbluetooth isn't working yet17:29
hyper_chdeamoon: so, it did load it now in rtorrent and it starts downloading the file?17:29
deamoonno17:29
hyper_chno? to which question?17:30
deamoonall17:30
deamoon:D17:30
hyper_chpastebin the output of:   ls /home/deamoon/torrents/watchfolder17:30
deamoonhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com:80/93799/17:31
hyper_chdeamoon: sorry:   my mistaked... close rtorrent again17:31
hyper_chdeamoon: and edit the .rtorrent.rc config again17:31
hyper_chdeamoon: kate ~/.rtorrent.rc17:31
hyper_chdeamoon: go to line 30 schedule = watch_directory,5,5,load_start17:32
hyper_chdeamoon: and change it to:   schedule = watch_directory,5,5,load_start=/home/deamoon/torrents/watchfolder/*.torrent17:32
hyper_chdeamoon: in the config it's named watchlist17:32
hyper_chdeamoon: and we created now watchfolder17:32
hyper_chdeamoon: so it won't recognize it of course :)17:33
hyper_chdeamoon: pretty stupid of me :)17:33
deamoonlol17:33
deamoonok lets c now17:33
hyper_chsave and close the file17:33
hyper_chand restart rtorrent17:34
deamoonyaha17:34
deamoonit works17:34
hyper_chgood :)17:34
hyper_chso, basically to start downloading new torrents directly, just put them into the watchfolder17:34
deamoonand how can i stop it now17:34
hyper_chdeamoon: just one torrent?17:34
deamoonk17:34
hyper_chuse the arrow keys to select the torrent17:34
BluesKajhyper_ch, i don't see the point of a cli torrent client , ktorrent works very well and is easy to use , unless of course you're a CLI dude17:35
deamoonlets say now17:35
deamoonhow to stop it17:35
deamoon?17:35
hyper_chBluesKaj: memory foot print17:35
hyper_chBluesKaj: confortability of fully controlling it through ssh17:35
hyper_chdeamoon: selected it?17:35
hyper_chdeamoon: by using the up/down arrow keys?17:35
deamoonyes17:35
hyper_chdeamoon: press   ctrl+k17:36
hyper_chdeamoon: that will close it17:36
hyper_chdeamoon: ctrl+s will restart it17:36
hyper_chdeamoon: and pressing twice ctrl+d (while started) or once while closed will remove the torrent17:36
hyper_chdeamoon: however it will NOT delete the downloaded datafiles17:36
hyper_chdeamoon: it will just delete the .torrent file17:37
deamooni c17:37
hyper_chdeamoon: restart the torrent again17:37
hyper_chdeamoon: I'll show you another important thing17:37
hyper_chdeamoon: if you have restarted it, make sure it's selected,17:38
hyper_chdeamoon: then press the right arrow key17:38
hyper_chdeamoon: you get then torrent details17:38
deamoongrr i deleted tor file17:38
deamoonlol17:38
hyper_chdeamoon: in the file list and tracker list you can activate or deactivate certain files if the torrent has more than one or enable/disable certain trackers (like moviex)17:39
deamoonw8 sec plz17:39
hyper_chdeamoon: well, I just chose ubuntu torrent because I knew it was well seeded and it should download immediately after adding17:39
deamoonok i c now17:41
hyper_chdeamoon: if you have a multi tracker or multi file torrent, at the according point just press the right arrow key again17:41
deamoonok17:41
hyper_chdeamoon: press the left key again to go back to the main view17:41
hyper_chwhen you're there, press key 1-9 (not on the numeric block but above the letters) to change the view17:42
deamoonohh thats nice17:43
hyper_chand with the zxc and asd keys you can lower /raise the max upload limit17:43
hyper_chon the bottom left you see the limit17:43
deamoonhow can i pause downlad17:43
deamoon?17:43
hyper_chit should be 205 / off for you17:43
hyper_chdeamoon: pausing is pressing  ctrl+d  only once17:43
hyper_chdeamoon: while the torrent is started17:43
hyper_chor do you mean pause the complete download?17:44
hyper_chI mean pausing to everything?17:44
deamoonnah when downlading17:44
hyper_chdeamoon: a single torrent or all?17:44
deamoon117:44
hyper_chdeamoon: press   ctrl+d just once while the torrent is started17:45
deamoonk17:45
hyper_chdeamoon: however I normally close the torrent and use ctrl+k17:45
cuzntwhich ftp is better to use?17:45
hyper_chdeamoon: because I accidentally deleted a few times a torrent :)17:45
cuznt!ftpd17:45
ubottuFTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP17:45
hyper_chdeamoon: got any question to rtorrent this far?17:46
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hyper_chcuznt: those are ftp servers... not clients17:46
deamoonso ctrl+k stops torrent downlad17:46
cuzntright17:47
hyper_chdeamoon: it closes a torrent17:47
cuzntso which is the best client to use then pls17:47
hyper_chdeamoon: this means it will also move loaded chunks from memory17:47
hyper_chcuznt: depends... you can use konqueror or if you want a pure ftp client, use kftp17:47
hyper_chcuznt: or filezilla17:47
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deamoonand how can i pause torrent up and down17:47
cuzntthanks17:48
hyper_chdeamoon: easiest is to close it:   ctrl+k17:48
deamooni c17:48
hyper_chdeamoon: and continue with   ctrl+s17:48
deamooni presed ctrl k17:48
deamoonand it still uploading17:48
hyper_chdeamoon: the status did not change to [CLOSED] ?17:49
deamoonyes it did17:49
hyper_chdeamoon: it takes a little while17:49
hyper_chdeamoon: the speed is an average17:49
deamoonohh now it stoped17:49
hyper_chdeamoon: so it first needs to adjust17:49
deamooni c17:49
deamoonits nice stuff u know17:50
hyper_chdeamoon: any more questions right now about rtorrent?17:50
deamoonwell its prety clear at a moment17:50
hyper_chdeamoon: good... because we have one huge problem17:50
hyper_chdeamoon: if you close the terminal now17:50
hyper_chdeamoon: it will also close rtorrent17:50
hyper_chdeamoon: that's where "screen" comes into play17:51
hyper_chdeamoon: screen can be defined as "terminal multiplexer"17:51
deamoonaha17:51
hyper_chdeamoon: bascially screen allows you to run multiple terminals within itself17:51
hyper_chdeamoon: it's very simple to handle (I'll also give you some links afterwards17:51
hyper_chdeamoon: (1) close rtorrent17:51
hyper_chdeamoon: (2) start screen by entering   "screen"   into the terminal17:52
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deamoonu mean ctrl+q17:52
hyper_chdeamoon: (3) you will get some text on the screen (ignore it just now)17:52
hyper_chdeamoon: yes,   ctrl+q17:52
hyper_chdeamoon: (4) you will see then a "blank" terminal again17:52
hyper_chdeamoon: addon for (3) --> press enter17:52
deamoonhm17:53
hyper_chdeamoon: ?17:53
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deamoonan that text i presed space bar17:53
hyper_chdeamoon: tht works also I think17:53
nikitahola17:53
deamoonk17:54
hyper_chdeamoon: so you started "screen" and you have now an empty terminal before you?17:54
deamoondeamoon@deamoon-desctop:~/rtorrent/trunk/rtorrent$17:54
hyper_chdeamoon: great17:54
deamoonthats what i got at a moment17:54
hyper_chnow start rtorrent17:54
hyper_chit will be started in screen then17:54
deamoonok17:55
hyper_chnow press the following:  ctrl+a  &  ctrl+c17:55
deamoonand how cna i use termional17:55
hyper_chdeamoon: what do you mean?17:55
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deamooni mean if i need to use terminal for aptitude17:56
deamoonor so17:56
hyper_chdeamoon: we're getting there :)17:56
hyper_chdeamoon: press:   ctrl+a & ctrl+c17:56
deamooni did17:56
hyper_chdeamoon: now you should have a blank termianl again, right?17:56
deamoondeamoon@deamoon-desctop:~/rtorrent/trunk/rtorrent$17:56
deamoonthats the line i got17:57
hyper_chdeamoon: good, what we did is the following:17:57
hyper_chdeamoon: ctrl+a --> that command said that it shall address "screen"17:57
deamoonk17:57
hyper_chdeamoon: ctrl+c --> that command then said to screen that it shall create another virtual terminal17:57
hyper_chdeamoon: maybe you want to monitor your system also a bit17:57
hyper_chdeamoon: there are two tools, top and htop17:57
hyper_chdeamoon: top is installed by default17:57
hyper_chdeamoon: htop is not but is nicer17:58
nikitahello17:58
deamoonok17:58
hyper_chdeamoon: now issue:  sudo apt-get install htop17:58
hyper_chdeamoon: let me know when you're done :)17:58
deamoonk17:58
deamoondonne17:58
hyper_chlaunch htop by issuing:   htop17:58
hyper_chdeamoon: you should get a colorfull screen17:59
hyper_chwith the processes listed17:59
deamoonhtopyes17:59
hyper_chcpu used17:59
hyper_chmemory usage17:59
hyper_chdeamoon: right?17:59
deamoonyes17:59
hyper_chdeamoon: now let's do some screen magic17:59
hyper_chdeamoon: remember, in screen terminal 1 we have rtorretn running18:00
deamoonits like task manager on windows right18:00
hyper_chdeamoon: in screen terminal 2 we have htop running18:00
hyper_chdeamoon: now press:   ctrl+a  &  n18:00
deamoonok18:00
hyper_chdeamoon: that means again (ctrl+a) send command to "screen" and "n" cycle to the next virtual terminal18:00
hyper_chdeamoon: you should be back at rtorrent now18:00
deamoonim in rtorrent18:00
hyper_chright?18:00
deamoonyes18:01
hyper_chdeamoon: now press again  ctrl+a  & n18:01
hyper_chdeamoon: and you're at htop18:01
deamoonyes18:01
hyper_chdeamoon: for heaven's sake we open now a third virtual terminal18:01
hyper_chdeamoon: press again  ctrl+a  &  ctrl+c18:01
deamooni did already18:01
deamoonlol18:01
hyper_chdeamoon: and cycle through them again18:01
hyper_chdeamoon: with ctrl+a & n18:01
hyper_chdeamoon: all works, right?18:02
deamoon:D18:02
deamoonyes18:02
hyper_chnow, let's assume you have screen running at home18:02
hyper_chand you are at school18:02
hyper_chand you want to check how it goes18:02
deamoonok18:02
hyper_chso you would have to setup a ssh connection to your home computer18:02
r3n4tun1xfgdfs18:02
deamoonk18:02
hyper_chbut we skip that now18:02
deamoon1 min plz i need to toilet18:02
hyper_chdeamoon: just open a new konsol termianl18:03
hyper_chdeamoon: a real one18:03
hyper_chdeamoon: no problem ;)18:03
deamoonty18:03
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deamoon:D18:03
r3n4tun1xVão todos tomar no meio dos seus cús!!!18:03
r3n4tun1xgf18:03
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hyper_ch!br | r3n4tun1x18:04
ubottur3n4tun1x: Por favor use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.18:04
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deamoonim back18:05
hyper_chdeamoon: ok, open a complete new real terminal18:05
deamoonclose that 1?18:05
hyper_chdeamoon: no, let it running (just for demonstration)18:05
deamoonok18:06
deamoonits open now18:06
r3n4tun1xvai tomar no cú18:06
hyper_chdeamoon: now, you being at school, you know that a screen session is already running at home18:06
deamoonok18:07
hyper_chdeamoon: to check this, enter this command:   screen -ls18:07
deamoonat work mate18:07
deamoonat work18:07
hyper_chdeamoon: that will list the screens18:07
hyper_chdeamoon: ok, at work then ;)18:07
hyper_chyou get something like this:18:07
hyper_chThere is a screen on:18:07
hyper_ch        7587.pts-1.xubi (12/27/2008 03:41:30 PM)        (Attached)18:07
hyper_ch1 Socket in /var/run/screen/S-hyper.18:07
deamoonyes18:07
hyper_chdeamoon: right?18:07
deamoonyes'18:07
hyper_chdeamoon: good, now we detach that screen18:07
deamoonk18:08
hyper_chdeamoon: run:   screen -d18:08
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hyper_chdeamoon: and it says it detached18:08
deamoonyes18:08
hyper_chdeamoon: and now attach with.   screen -r18:08
hyper_chdeamoon: cycle through the virtual screen termianls to check if everything is right18:09
hyper_chdeamoon: ctrl+a  &  n18:09
deamoonohh it does work18:09
hyper_chdeamoon: good :)18:09
hyper_chdeamoon: now just for fun18:09
deamoonvery impresed18:09
hyper_chdeamoon: close both real terminals18:09
deamoonok18:09
hyper_chdeamoon: and afterwards open a new one18:09
hyper_chdeamoon: run again.   screen -ls18:09
deamoonk18:10
hyper_chdeamoon: you see, it's detached now18:10
deamoonyes18:10
hyper_chdeamoon: so you can directly attach to it:   screen -r18:10
hyper_chdeamoon: that works also, right?18:10
deamooni got back18:10
hyper_chdeamoon: good :)18:10
deamoonye18:11
deamoonit does18:11
hyper_chdeamoon: now you can also manually detach screen by issuing:   ctrl+a  &  d18:11
deamoondone18:11
hyper_chdeamoon: good :) now you got the essential tools together18:11
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hyper_chdeamoon: I'll give you now some links to "readup"18:12
hyper_chdeamoon: in case you have some issues18:12
hyper_chdeamoon: screen:  http://jmcpherson.org/screen.html18:12
hyper_chdeamoon: rtorrent:  http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/05/02/howto-use-rtorrent-like-a-pro/18:12
hyper_chdeamoon: (those two links got me hooked with screen and rtorrent)18:13
hyper_chdeamoon: then of course the rtorrent homepage:  http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/18:13
ubuntu_So has anyone tried ext4 here yet?18:13
hyper_chdeamoon: especially the user guide:  http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/RTorrentUserGuide   (remember, mentioning of   ^.... means  ctrl+.....)18:13
hyper_chdeamoon: and rtorrent common tasks:  http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/RTorrentCommonTasks18:14
hyper_chdeamoon: that should help to answer most questions :)18:14
deamoonit will18:14
deamoonomg18:14
deamoonso much info18:14
hyper_chdeamoon: last but not least, here there's also a rtorrent support channel:  #rtorrent  :)18:15
deamoonty hyper18:15
gir_Sorry to bother, is there anyone around who can help me with an nvidia drivers saga (intrepid)?18:16
hyper_chdeamoon: now a few other things18:16
deamoonk18:16
hyper_chdeamoon: .torrent files still try to open with vuze, right?18:16
deamoonno18:16
deamoonohh i dont know18:16
deamoonnow18:16
hyper_chdeamoon: not anymore? you fixed that already?18:16
deamoonnah18:16
deamoonw8 i check18:16
hyper_chdeamoon: :)18:16
deamoonlol18:16
deamoonno its not18:17
deamoonits ok now18:17
hyper_chdeamoon: good... then to use the true power of rtorrent and screen is to be able to ssh into your box18:17
hyper_chdeamoon: are you behind a router?18:17
deamoonyes18:17
hyper_chdeamoon: and do you actually want to be able to connect from everywhere to your box?18:18
deamoonit would be nice18:18
hyper_chgood :)18:18
deamoonol18:18
hyper_chdeamoon: install openssh-server and denyhosts:    sudo apt-get install openssh-server denyhosts18:18
hyper_chdeamoon: openssh-server is the actual sever that lets you connect from outside18:19
deamoonok18:19
hyper_chdenyhosts is a anti-bruteforce tool18:19
deamoonlike ftp?18:19
hyper_chdeamoon: no, it will be like a terminal18:19
EnMasse187guys need uber helps with amarok18:19
deamoonok18:19
deamoondone18:19
hyper_chEnMasse187: #amarok18:19
EnMasse187i set it up today18:19
EnMasse187>_>18:19
EnMasse187first ubuntu says kubuntu18:19
EnMasse187now kubunut says amarok18:19
EnMasse187>_________________________________>18:19
hyper_chEnMasse187: :)18:19
hyper_chEnMasse187: or should I have directed you back at #ubuntu ? ^^18:20
EnMasse187yes18:20
EnMasse187please18:20
hyper_chEnMasse187:  #amarok is the best try... there are amarok developers in there18:20
EnMasse187i went into amarok and said18:20
EnMasse187need uber helpz18:20
EnMasse187:)18:20
hyper_chEnMasse187: you don't say that18:20
EnMasse187i think that was why18:20
EnMasse187i was directed18:20
hyper_chEnMasse187: you normally say what the problem is18:20
EnMasse187what do i say then?18:20
EnMasse187i also asked in wine, they said how is that wine related18:20
EnMasse187XD18:20
gir_is there a channel for nvidia stuff around here?18:21
hyper_chdeamoon: denyhosts will auto-ban ip addresses that try too often to connect to your ssh server without proper logins18:21
hyper_chdeamoon: so rule 1 is: have not a simple password18:21
deamoonok18:21
hyper_chdeamoon: if you follow tht, then they cannot just guess the password18:21
deamoonk18:22
hyper_chdeamoon: I mean they would also need to know the username (which is already hard)18:22
hyper_chdeamoon: just making sure your box won't get hacked18:22
deamoon:)18:22
deamoonlol18:22
hyper_chgir_: not sure if it's linux based nvidia18:22
hyper_chdeamoon: so you normally want to auto-ban IP addresses that try to often to get in ;) and that's what denyhosts does18:22
hyper_chdeamoon: the next thing you need to do is to forward port 22 from your router to your box18:23
hyper_chdeamoon: I assume your box has a dedicated IP?18:23
deamoonok18:23
deamoonyes18:23
hyper_chgir_: no private query18:23
hyper_chdeamoon: that's all there is needed18:23
brazilahi18:23
hyper_chdeamoon: now you can access your box through ssh18:23
hyper_chhello brazila18:23
deamoonk18:23
brazilaanyone could help18:23
hyper_chdeamoon: at work, you're on windows?18:24
brazila?18:24
deamoonyes18:24
hyper_chbrazila: mind-reading is not a skill that many people posses... so telling the issue could help18:24
EnMasse187guys hey18:24
EnMasse187guess what18:24
EnMasse187amarok is not helping18:24
hyper_chdeamoon: on windows you have a ssh tool called Putty18:24
deamoonok18:24
hyper_chgir_:18:24
EnMasse187how do i pronounce daemon?18:24
EnMasse187demon?18:24
deamooni think i saw it somewere18:24
hyper_chgir_: once more a private support request and you're on my ignore list18:24
EnMasse187da emon?18:24
EnMasse187day mon?18:24
hyper_chdeamoon: google for "putty"18:24
brazilai want to download something like musics18:24
EnMasse187day man?18:24
jussi01day-mon18:24
brazilaetc18:25
brazilabut18:25
EnMasse187ahh18:25
brazilai would18:25
brazilalike to use18:25
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jussi01!enter | brazila18:25
ubottubrazila: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!18:25
hyper_chdeamoon: it's just an .exe file18:25
brazilaok18:25
deamoonok18:25
hyper_chdeamoon: and you would also need to know your home IP18:25
deamoonok18:25
hyper_chdeamoon: do you have a static public IP provided by your ISP?18:25
brazilasorry18:25
deamoonstatic18:25
dstarHey, is it possible to run KDE apps under Gnome and get sound? I can't run KDE on my laptop right now, because for some reason resizing windows takes an absurdly long time (as in, 5-6 seconds) and googling didn't turn up anything useful, but _lord_ I don't like the gnome apps....18:25
hyper_chdeamoon: nice :)18:26
deamoonlol18:26
brazilais there any program p2p for linux?18:26
hyper_chdeamoon: I mean your public IP on the internet18:26
deamoonyes18:26
hyper_chdeamoon: the one that your ISP assigns to your router18:26
deamoonit is static18:26
hyper_chdeamoon: that's also static? cool18:26
hyper_chdeamoon: you know it by heart?18:26
Al_nZmorning people18:26
brazila??18:26
jussi01!limewire | brazila18:26
ubottubrazila: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !Java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.18:26
deamoonwell i used it before on windows for ftp18:26
hyper_chdeamoon: easy :)18:27
deamoonbut now on linux cant18:27
hyper_chdeamoon: well, putty is simple, just enter the ipaddress18:27
hyper_chdeamoon: and connect18:27
deamooncos dont know how18:27
brazilahow to install it using apt-get?? like root?18:27
hyper_chdeamoon: then at the prompt enter your user name18:27
slow-motionhi18:27
hyper_chdeamoon: and your password18:27
Al_nZwould someone be able to help me with vncserver? I have it running on ubuntu but cant connect to it from my XP box. Says connect failed?18:27
hector__hola18:27
deamoonw818:27
hyper_chdeamoon: and you have a terminal like before18:27
hyper_chdeamoon: so rtorrent and screen is no problem with putty18:27
deamooni look at mine laptop18:27
deamoonk18:27
deamoon1 sec18:27
hyper_chdeamoon: for "ftp" I can recommend WinSCP18:27
deamoonok18:28
Al_nZI dont think I have the right port open, but then again not even sure if a firewall is running, or the right port open?18:28
alltheworngthingI'm having some trouble booting, any one have a moment to double check my setup?18:28
deamooncould u help me to set it up later plz18:28
hyper_chdeamoon: sure18:28
deamoonk18:28
deamooncool18:28
deamoonso 1 sec18:28
hyper_chdeamoon: let me know when you're back18:28
brazilaanyone knows how to install it using the konsole?18:28
deamooni need to load win an laptop18:28
hyper_chbrazila: sudo apt-get install frostwire18:28
brazilaok18:29
brazilathanks but i would like to install Ares P2P18:29
brazilais there on Linux?18:29
hyper_chbrazila: no clue what ares is18:29
brazilaoO18:29
brazilaby the way, thank  you very much for help me18:30
hyper_chbrazila: does ares use it's own p2p protocol? or is it just an edonkey program?18:30
HappySmileManbrazila: I think ares is only for Windows18:31
brazilaah18:31
brazilai thought it18:31
hyper_chit might run through wine18:31
brazilatoo18:31
hyper_chif you really want ares18:31
deamoonok will18:31
hyper_chbut if it's an edonkey program, then just use frostwire18:31
brazila:S18:31
dstar... okay, weird. Last night I wasn't getting sound from konversation, now I am. Oh well, it works.18:31
braziladidnt install18:31
hyper_chbrazila: what did not install?18:32
brazilafrostwire18:32
hyper_chbrazila: why not?18:32
brazilahere said that is impossible18:32
dstarDoes anyone know if there's a fix for the slow window resizing problem? Googling didn't help, and I can't use my KDE session when it takes 5-6 seconds to resize a window.18:32
brazilato choose18:32
hyper_ch!pastebin | brazila18:32
ubottubrazila: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)18:32
hyper_chbrazila: copy the whole output from the terminal into pastebin18:33
PhilRoddstar: fwiw, beta nvidia drivers helped things for me, although window resizing is still slowish18:33
PhilRod(hope that helps, gtg)18:33
deamoonok im back18:33
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hyper_chdeamoon: ok, you got a windows box available for testing?18:33
brazila:S18:34
deamoonyes18:34
hyper_chdeamoon: found putty?18:34
dstarPhilRod: I've got an ATI 3100...18:34
deamooni just forwardingport now to mine pc18:34
deamoonye18:34
hyper_chdeamoon: ;)18:34
brazilaim knew on linux im uusing Kurumin i dont know anything18:34
brazilasorry18:34
hyper_chbrazila: just copy the terminal output into pastebin18:34
hyper_chbrazila: and then give the new url after posting here18:35
hyper_chdeamoon: just let me know when you're ready ;)18:36
deamoonhow can write in red18:36
hyper_chdeamoon: you just "highlight" someone by entering their name ;)18:36
bazhangdeamoon, type hyp <tab>18:37
brazilahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/93830/18:37
brazila??18:37
deamoonhyper_ch ok18:37
hyper_chdeamoon: in a channel that's busy it's good practice to do... as this way the other will not miss the message18:37
bazhangdeamoon, use tab complete :)18:37
deamoonoh18:37
brazilai had to do this?18:37
hyper_chbrazila: but now paste the output of when you try to install frostwire:18:37
hyper_chbrazila: pasting is good... but the error output is needed18:38
hyper_chbrazila: run again...   sudo apt-get install frostwire18:38
hyper_chdeamoon: ready now?18:38
brazilathis is in portuguese18:38
brazilacan be ???18:38
hyper_chbrazila: still paste it18:38
deamoon1 sec connction type tcp or udt18:38
deamoonudp?18:38
hyper_chbrazila: or you might want to ask in #kubuntu-br18:39
hyper_chdeamoon: tcp18:39
brazilahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/93831/18:39
deamoonok lets try18:39
brazilauhsauhsauh only me is online18:39
hyper_chdeamoon: :)18:39
brazilathere :S bah rsrsrs18:40
hyper_chbrazila: maybe #ubuntu-br18:40
bazhang!br18:40
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.18:40
hyper_chbrazila: I know the problem now18:40
brazilasay it18:40
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hyper_chfrostwire is possibly not in the repositories anymore18:41
brazilaOH so i could try what?18:41
deamoonit is18:42
hyper_chbrazila: try amule:   sudo apt-get amule18:42
hyper_chdeamoon: what is?18:42
deamoonfrostwire18:42
hyper_chdeamoon: you're on 8.04?18:42
hyper_chdeamoon: or 8.10?18:42
deamooni think 81018:42
deamooni got it trought apt get18:42
hyper_chdeamoon: I can't find any frostwire18:43
deamooni cant c rtorrent in terminal18:43
hyper_chdeamoon: what can't you?18:43
deamoonw8 i check18:43
brazilabut it isnt like run on windows that virus18:44
Al_nZwould someone be able to help me with vncserver? I have it running on ubuntu but cant connect to it from my XP box. Says connect failed?18:44
brazilacome whith programs18:44
Al_nZI dont think I have the right port open, but then again not even sure if a firewall is running, or the right port open?18:44
deamoondeamoon@deamoon-desctop:~$ aptitude search frostwire18:44
deamooni   frostwire                       - A Truly Free and Open Source Peer to Peer18:44
hyper_chdeamoon: hmmm.... are you sure you're on 8.10?18:45
hyper_chbrazila: you can download it here:   http://www.getdeb.net/app/Frostwire18:45
deamoonhow to check18:45
jussi01!versio18:45
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about versio18:45
jussi01!version18:45
ubottuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »18:45
brazilabut i wont know install it downloading18:45
eli_hi guys18:45
hyper_chdeamoon: run:  lsb_release -a18:45
Psychoholici'm having problems with amarok it keeps saying i don't have mp3 support but i installed the restriced drivers pack.18:46
jussi01hyper_ch: getdeb is not a trusted source ;)18:46
eli_i'm a newbie, and i need a help with setting my webcam.18:46
deamoon8.1018:46
brazilait for website because im nub18:46
hyper_chjussi01: :)18:46
brazilanoob18:46
Psychoholicdo i need to install one for amarok18:46
hyper_chdeamoon: strange... why isn't frostwire showing for me18:46
deamooni dont know18:46
deamoon:D18:46
deamoonlol18:46
hyper_chwhat repos have you got?18:46
Psychoholicit was working a few days ago then it just stoped18:46
brazilaanyone?18:46
deamoonw818:46
eli_i've failed to find some step by step instruction on the forum...18:47
hyper_chcan you paste bin   cat /etc/apt/sources.list18:47
hyper_chdeamoon: can you paste bin   cat /etc/apt/sources.list18:47
v-doggthe remote desktop client shipped with 8.10 (kde4) was a lot nicer than the one shipped with 8.04 (kde3.5). Is there a way to get that client for kde3.5?18:47
hyper_chv-dogg: not really18:48
v-doggbugger18:48
deamoonhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com:80/93833/18:48
jussi01Al_nZ: install guarddog for firewall config. check that port 5900 is open.18:48
v-doggI switched to 3.5 because it seems a lot stabbler18:48
hyper_chdeamoon: it's probably in the backports... I have not enabled that18:49
deamoondunno18:49
deamoonu know better18:49
deamoonlol18:49
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hyper_chdeamoon: nope... still not showing..hmmm18:50
hyper_chdeamoon: I'll check later why :)18:50
hyper_chdeamoon: so, you got the windows box ready18:50
deamoonyes18:50
v-dogganother thing. is there an terminal/ssh terminal that would make URLs clickable? I'm used to using (n|p)utty on windows :)18:50
deamoonit ready18:50
hyper_chdeamoon: and you already downloaded putty?18:50
deamoonyes18:50
hyper_chdeamoon: and you tried to connect?18:50
deamoonno18:50
hyper_chdeamoon: start putty18:50
deamoonallready18:51
hyper_chdeamoon: enter the (lan) ip of your linux box18:51
hyper_chdeamoon: and hit connect18:51
deamoonk18:51
deamoon1 sec18:51
hyper_chdeamoon: (or whatever it says)18:51
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deamooni got nework error conecection refused18:52
hyper_chdeamoon: what IP did you enter?18:53
deamoonrouters ip18:53
hyper_chdeamoon: no, that does not work18:53
hyper_chdeamoon: well, depends on the router ;)18:53
deamoonit says host name or ip address18:53
hyper_chdeamoon: but normally, if both are in the lan18:53
hyper_chdeamoon: then you need to enter the lan ip of the linux box18:53
deamoonok18:54
deamoondone18:54
deamoonaske me for login18:54
eli__hi guys18:54
hyper_chdeamoon: enter your username (of the linux box)18:54
eli__i'm a newbie, and i need some help in configuring my webcam18:55
hyper_chdeamoon: then you'll be asked for the password18:55
hyper_chdeamoon: enter it (no charachters and stars will be displayed)18:55
hyper_chdeamoon: and hit enter18:55
deamoonwhat pasword?18:55
hyper_chdeamoon: your user account on the linux box18:55
deamoonoh18:55
hyper_chdeamoon: you login as user of the linux box18:55
eli__I've really tried to find some step-by-step guide into it, but I failed to find one that work for me,,,18:56
deamoondone18:56
hyper_chdeamoon: hence your username and password from there18:56
hyper_chdeamoon: so you're logged in?18:56
deamoonyes18:56
eli__Anyone is willing to help?18:56
hyper_chdeamoon: now, let's do some magic18:56
deamoon:D18:56
hyper_chdeamoon: you remember how to detach screen?18:56
deamooncreen -r18:56
deamoon?18:56
deamoonscreen18:56
hyper_chdeamoon: screen -d (to detach)18:56
deamoonoh18:56
hyper_chdeamoon: and   screen -r  to reattach18:56
deamoonso in linux terminal now18:57
hyper_chdeamoon: doesn't matter if you try to reattach the screen18:57
hyper_chdeamoon: while it's not detached... you'll just get an error then ;)18:57
hyper_chdeamoon: so, rtorrent and htop are still running?18:57
hyper_chdeamoon: now "from" the windows box?18:57
deamoonk18:57
eli__Hm, anyone?18:58
hyper_chdeamoon: so this works?18:58
deamoonyes18:58
deamooni thinks so18:58
hyper_chdeamoon: good :)18:58
deamoondetached18:58
deamoonit18:58
hyper_chdeamoon: so, if you setup portforwarding on the router correctly, you can now login from work also18:59
hyper_chdeamoon: next is to download winscp --> http://www.winscp.com18:59
hyper_chdeamoon: it's free and open source software18:59
deamooni  does work18:59
deamoonthats on win box18:59
hyper_chdeamoon: yes, that's on the windows box18:59
eli__hi guys, I need some help with my webcam.18:59
hyper_chdeamoon: it's like a ftp client - but works over a ssh connection19:00
deamoonohh19:00
hyper_chdeamoon: pro: all the transferred packages are encrypted19:00
hyper_chdeamoon: con: it's a bit slower due to encryption and package overhead19:00
hyper_chdeamoon: pro: it works great and you only need to open one port to use ssh with putty and winscp :)19:00
deamoonbut will mine parents be able to connectto it19:00
deamoon?19:00
hyper_chdeamoon: they will also need need winscp and an account (or use your account)19:01
deamoonok19:01
deamooni sec than19:01
hyper_chdeamoon: but if you want setup with more people, you might be better off to setup a real ftp server19:01
eli__is anyone alive here?19:02
hyper_cheli19:02
deamoonu mean another p?19:02
deamoonpc19:02
hyper_cheli__: no clue... my webcam works out of the box19:02
hyper_chdeamoon: no, not another computer... just another "server" on the box you have now19:02
hyper_chdeamoon: ssh is also a "server"19:03
deamoonok19:03
hyper_chdeamoon: a "server" in linux is just a program that waits to "server" something to someone that enters a request (e.g. like a webserver, ssh-server, ftp-server, ts2-server, vnc-server, .....)19:03
hyper_chdeamoon: it's confusing as dedicated boxes are also called servers19:04
deamoonok19:04
hyper_chdeamoon: you got winscp?19:04
deamooni need it just on win box?19:04
deamoonor on linux19:04
hyper_chdeamoon: yes19:04
deamoonk19:04
hyper_chdeamoon: just windows19:05
hyper_chdeamoon: on the linux box you already have the ssh-server running19:05
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deamoonuser interface must be19:06
deamoon?19:06
deamoonexplorer or norton comander19:07
deamoon?19:07
hyper_chdeamoon: I prefer norton commander19:07
hyper_chdeamoon: this will give a 2-pane window19:07
hyper_chdeamoon: where one pane is the "remote" and one the "local" view19:08
deamoonok done19:08
hyper_chdeamoon: now try to connect19:08
deamoonsame as on putty?19:09
hyper_chdeamoon: yes19:09
eli__hi guys, is anyone willing to help me with a webcam configuration?19:09
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deamoonok done19:10
hyper_chdeamoon: :) should be simple to use, right?19:10
elitrouhi guys, is anyone willing to help me with a webcam configuration?19:10
hyper_ch!patience19:10
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines19:10
deamoonohh yes19:10
deamoonu know i was looking for this19:10
deamoonfor ages19:10
deamoonitssso good no19:11
hyper_chdeamoon: well, now I generally don't trust other users19:11
hyper_chdeamoon: so I don't give out my account details - not even to my parents19:11
deamoonxexexe19:11
hyper_chdeamoon: so I use MySecureShell19:11
deamoonhow to greate accounts19:11
deamoon?19:11
hyper_chdeamoon: have a look at that:   http://www.howtoforge.com/mysecureshell_sftp_debian_etch19:12
hyper_chdeamoon: it works also for ubuntu19:12
hyper_chdeamoon: nad I think mysecureshell is in the repos19:12
player775hello.. can anyone give list with graphics card supported in latest kubuntu ?19:12
hyper_chdeamoon: so basically for other users I make a seperate account, make a common "home" folder for them and restrict them with mysecureshell19:13
hyper_chdeamoon: it's too much right now to explain that19:13
hyper_chdeamoon: just have a look at that howto and explore it a bit :)19:13
hyper_chdeamoon: I'm sure you can find uot19:13
deamoonok19:14
deamooni c19:14
deamoonim so excited19:14
hyper_chdeamoon: :)19:14
hyper_chdeamoon: well, you remember when we set the maximum upload in rtorrent?19:14
deamoonyes19:14
deamooni thinks so19:15
hyper_chdeamoon: well, generally it's adviced to set it to 80-90% of your amx upload19:15
deamoonlol19:15
hyper_chdeamoon: as you have 2.5mbit you could go to 90%19:15
hyper_chdeamoon: right now it's set to 80%19:15
deamoonok19:15
hyper_chdeamoon: it's up to you on how you want to tweak it19:15
hyper_chdeamoon: leave it at 80% now and see how it goes :)19:15
deamooni need to edit that file19:15
deamoonk19:16
hyper_chdeamoon: and if you are using private torrent trackers (which are evil IMHO) then disable DHT19:16
deamoonye i need that19:16
hyper_chdeamoon: as DHT will render the whole private tracker thing useless19:16
hyper_chdeamoon: it's all in the .rtorrent.rc config :)19:16
deamoonso i just need to write desible19:18
deamoondht19:18
hyper_chdeamoon: yes ....19:18
deamoonwrite me full command plz19:18
deamoonto open taht19:18
deamoonplz19:19
hyper_chdht = off19:19
deamoon.rtorrent.rc config19:19
hyper_chdeamoon: just change   dht = auto   to    dht = off19:19
deamoonok19:19
hyper_chdeamoon: and restart rtorrent19:19
deamoonbut to pen this .rtorrent.rc config19:19
deamoonlol19:20
hyper_chdeamoon: kate ~/.rtorrent.rc19:20
deamoonty19:20
hyper_chdeamoon: it's a hidden file because it start with a .19:20
hyper_chdeamoon: well, good luck with rtorrent :) it's quite powerfull if you use it a bit19:21
hyper_chdeamoon: and very good on memory usage19:21
cunicetaciao19:22
deamoonyee19:22
deamoonty very much fella19:22
hyper_chdeamoon: I hope you have bookmarked the few pages I gave you before?19:22
deamoonthat ftp is a miracle for me19:22
deamoonall of them mate19:22
deamoonall19:22
deamoon1 more thing19:23
hyper_chdeamoon: yes?19:23
hyper_chdeamoon: to to close screen?19:23
deamoonhow can i make firefox be as primary web browser19:23
hyper_chdeamoon: KMenu --> applications --> system --> system settings19:24
deamooncos i geting konquerer opening all windows19:24
hyper_chdeamoon: and then "default applications"19:24
hyper_chdeamoon: select "web browser" and then select19:24
hyper_chdeamoon: "in the following browser" and enter:   firefox19:24
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deamoonok ty19:25
hyper_chdeamoon: found it?19:25
deamoongot to look at it cos is diferent19:25
hyper_chdeamoon: are you in the system settings?19:26
deamoonyes19:26
hyper_chin the "general" tab19:26
hyper_chthe second row "Personal"19:26
deamoonwhen u click on web browser19:26
hyper_chdeamoon: ok, what then?19:26
deamoontheres 2 options19:27
hyper_chdeamoon: select the lower one19:27
hyper_chdeamoon: where you can type "firefox" in it19:27
deamoonohh19:27
deamoonim so dumb19:27
hyper_ch^^19:27
deamoonlets test it19:28
hyper_chdeamoon: and then of course press "apply"19:28
deamoonyes19:28
deamoonyes19:28
hyper_ch^^19:28
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deamoonok19:29
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hyper_chenjoy :)19:29
deamoonty wery much19:29
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runpain2how do I do the Option "NoLogo" "True" in xorg.conf19:40
crimsunrunpain2: for which video driver?19:42
runpain2nvidia19:42
crimsunrunpain2: you have to create the appropriate stanzas, then19:42
runpain2greek to me19:42
runpain2can you pm me step by step please19:43
crimsuni'm just waiting on pastebin19:43
runpain2thanks crimsun19:44
crimsunrunpain2: see http://pastebin.ca/129458819:45
runpain2crimsun,  do i add this to the xorg.conf19:47
runpain2and how do i do that i am a noobe19:48
luisfsmholaaaaaaaaaa19:49
crimsunrunpain2: I gave you my entire xorg.conf19:55
crimsunrunpain2: you likely don't need the extra options that i have19:55
crimsunrunpain2: but that's the syntax19:55
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runpain2ok thanks will try that Section "Device" Identifier"Configured Video Device" Boardname"NVIDIA GeForce 7 Series" Busid"PCI:0:18:0"Driver "nvidia" Screen 0 Vendorname "NVIDIA"19:58
runpain2see i have the geforce 7 series19:59
runpain2brb20:02
snarksterhow do you configure firefox for itmss protocol?20:03
snarkster!itmss20:03
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about itmss20:03
snarksteranyone know anything about itmss?20:04
jone_I just installed kubuntu 6.10, and I want to upgrade to the latest version.. I am having trouble making apt-get update work, I get loads of errors like 404 and such when I try20:05
jone_also Adept doesn't show any upgrade possibilities20:05
snarksteryour trying ti upgrade to old a version20:05
snarksterthere are some changes you need to make, but sorry Im not sure which ones you need to make20:06
snarkster!upgrade20:06
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes20:06
Dr_Willis_AAO6.10?   You Might want to go download a newer release --  Unless that was a typo ... :)20:06
runpain2crimsum that work i just added the options line no logo  true and when i booted  up no logo20:06
snarksteror read that page ubottu just showed20:07
runpain2Thanks for showing me that little trick20:07
snarksterno logo?? howto20:07
Dr_Willis_AAOi alwyas enable the nvidia logo :) i want to see it.. to be sure my drivers are being used20:09
jone_yes it was 6.10 unfortunately20:10
snarksteroh.. nvidia logo.20:10
snarksterjone follow that link ubottu posted and it will help you20:10
snarksterjust so you know ahead of time you have to upgrade several times20:10
Dr_Willis_AAOjone_,  you are going to be llooking at like.. err.. several 100+mb of updates..  sort of like downloading each install cd, over agbain.20:11
jone_likely to get messy?20:11
snarksterno not really.. just take some time20:11
jone_just having issues with the cd burner20:11
Dr_Willis_AAOjone_,  i would STRONGLY suggest getting a newer iso/release issue.  You can make a bootable/install able thimbdrive with 'unetbootin'20:11
Dr_Willis_AAONo cd needed :)20:11
snarksterright well there are several ways to just use an iso and a usb flash drive20:11
jone_isn't the usb flash drives tricky as hell?20:12
Dr_Willis_AAOjone_,  run unetbootin, point it to the iso , clock go....20:12
Dr_Willis_AAOclick go...20:12
Dr_Willis_AAO:)20:12
Dr_Willis_AAOwait a few min.. poof. bootable usb thumbdrive20:12
snarksteroh no!!! I use mine all the time to assist people in recovery issues.20:13
snarksteri created mine from pendrivelinux.com20:13
jone_the javascript on kubuntu.com is causing my konqueror to hang :/20:13
Dr_Willis_AAOi got a 4gb thumbdrive with persistant storage - made via the usb-boot-media tool in 8.1020:13
jone_but ok, thanks a lot, I will download a new release now20:13
snarksterDr_Willis_AAO Awesome20:13
snarksterjone good luck20:14
jone_thanks all of you :)20:14
runpain2laters folks20:14
snarksterjone somebody will be here if you need help20:14
snarksterhow do you force logoff a user through a SSH connection?20:17
Dr_Willis_AAOsnarkster,  kill their shells is one way :)20:17
snarksteri want to update my sons machine but it says that someone else is using the update process..20:17
snarksterI dont see any adept or synaptic processes in the pgrep20:18
Dr_Willis_AAOsnarkster,   f may be easier to just make machine reboot.20:18
snarkstertrue20:18
snarksterbut if he is updating then that will screw up the update20:18
Dr_Willis_AAOask him eot look at the screen i guess and see whats running?20:19
Dr_Willis_AAOif no processes are running - it maybe a bad lock file. or somthing20:19
snarkstertrue20:19
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snarksterbut then again its his machine and I could just not worry bout it. :)20:20
snarksterOT wow it was cold last night20:21
Dr_Willis_AAOi find ubuntu  rather stable in that stuff. :) perhaps a sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a'  might be needed later.. perhaps not.. hard to tell20:21
jussi01!aptfix | snarkster20:27
ubottusnarkster: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »20:27
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White_Pelican in 4.2 beta 2 for Intrepid, I seem to have lost my icon that says there are software updates available. How do I get that back?20:36
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lamerabend20:41
CTShadowin konqueror, my menu-bar (where file, edit, ... are located) is gone. how do i get it back?20:46
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SSJ_GZCTShadow: ctrl + m20:46
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CTShadowSSJ_GZ: thanks, you saved my day ;)20:49
SSJ_GZHehe :)20:49
jenni_moreola20:49
SchuenemannWhat package do I need to get mkinitrd?20:49
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martijn81will 9.04 come with ext4 filesystem?20:50
yosh_Salut20:53
martijn81hi yosh_20:53
yosh_J'ai un léger problème avec KDE, je n'arrive pas à me connecter sur Internet avec le Wi-fi.20:54
martijn81!france20:54
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr20:54
yosh_Oops, I'm sorry.20:54
SchuenemannWhat package do I need to get mkinitrd?20:56
Metalmanneed help20:57
martijn81Metalman: just tell20:57
Metalmanjust installed edubuntu and cant change the ubuntu desktop20:59
Metalmanhardy ubuntu20:59
martijn81Metalman: and what if you reload X?20:59
martijn81crtl+alt+backspace20:59
osman#ZURNA21:00
Metalmani installed conpiz and nothing21:00
martijn81Metalman: you should be able to tell you GDM to choose edubuntu21:01
martijn81your21:01
Pete21Hi21:04
Pete21I have installed kdevelop on ubuntu 8.1021:04
Pete21and the konsole is not enabled, it's just a gray area21:04
cuznt!kdevelop21:05
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop21:05
Pete21seems like several people are having this issue as well, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=642523621:05
cuznt!kdevelope21:05
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kdevelope21:05
cuzntdont worry21:05
cuzntthey will fix it21:05
Pete21Do anyone know how to solve it?21:06
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metalman1673need help21:11
metalman1673need help with hardy ubuntu21:12
martijn81Metalman: you should be able to tell your GDM to choose edubuntu21:12
metalman1673how to that21:13
metalman1673how do i do that21:14
martijn81metalman1673: you can choose from your DesktopManager21:14
martijn81just pull some menu's (i do not know the names of it)21:15
metalman1673dont have desktop manager21:16
metalman1673how to install it21:16
martijn81you probably have, you will get there once you do ctrl+alt+backspace21:17
metalman1673i did the ctrl+alt+backspace and all it was turn off21:19
flohHi, which directory are the firmware for b43 stored?21:19
martijn81metalman1673: then choose log out there21:19
martijn81you should get on the DM then21:20
metalman1673i loged back in and nothing21:20
metalman1673how can i install the DM21:20
Styx993hello21:28
Styx993is there any reason why linux would refuse to connect when kde isnt running?21:28
Evolution2i just got yakuake 2.9.4 from the kde apps but the version on the sources is only 2.9.3. there seem to be no config file in folder. any help is appreciated21:30
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ubuntu_hello21:32
ert3Hey I tried to install 8.04 over 8.1021:36
ert3and for some reason I still have 8.1021:36
Evolution2you cant degrade21:36
Evolution2unless you delete the partition conpletely21:36
jone_"A write error occured" - Goddamnit it never works when I try to burn cd's with K3b (I guess it's a hardware problem)21:45
Evolution2jone_: i think so21:46
jone_and when I installed UNetbootin from a .deb file i have no idea how to start it21:46
ert3So if I where to manually make the partitions that would remove the old ones so I could down grade?21:53
Evolution2right21:53
Evolution2pop in a live ubuntu live cd21:53
ert3cant21:53
ert3less than 38421:54
Evolution2oh21:54
Evolution2hmm21:54
Evolution2thats a problem21:54
ert3I told the alt install CD to do a guided partitioning21:54
Evolution2hmm21:54
Evolution2i was gonna suggest partition editor21:54
Evolution2remove it and reinstall with the older version live cs21:55
Evolution2cd21:55
ert3hmmm21:55
ert3I could boot up21:55
ert3manually delete all partitions21:55
ert3reboot21:55
ert3do it again to be doubly sure21:55
ert3then install21:55
Evolution2yea21:56
ert3or I could just go DOD on the fucker and 7 pass rape the drive21:57
ert3that would get it clean21:57
Evolution2i dont know about that21:58
Evolution2but i would suggest the first idea21:58
jussi01!ohmy | ert321:59
ubottuert3: Please watch your language, attitude and topic to help keep this channel friendly and helpful. Remember, there are kids here!21:59
HappySmileManAnyone here use KDevelop yet? I'm building it now, was wondering how stable it is22:00
HappySmileManThough I guess I can find out soon enough anyway22:00
snarksterjone: it should be in settings22:02
snarksterjone sorry my bad its under system22:02
snarksterjone did you find it?22:04
snarksterjone_ please to install usb-creator this will create an installable usb flash drive disk22:11
linux__oi22:11
snarksteroi22:13
linux__oi22:13
jussi01linux__: can we help you with something?22:14
joneI installed 6.10 because I only had a very old CD - Now I am unable to burn a new CD because of hardware issues, is there any way to start installation from 6.10 by mounting the ISO file of the 8.10 version?22:16
hyper_chno22:16
hyper_chjone: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/22:19
hyper_chbut it's not supported anymore22:19
jonewhat do you mean? i just want to upgrade22:19
joneor rather, just install 8.1022:20
PuRAoi22:20
joneI heard upgrading from 6.10 to 8.10 would be a pain22:20
hyper_chjone: ah, you don't want to reinstall 6.1022:20
joneI am unable to burn a new cd from this computer, and when I burn from a different computer (also different brand), it appears as an "empty cd" in the drive22:20
p_quarlesjone: it would be impossible at this point22:20
hyper_chjone: do you have a usb pendrive?22:21
p_quarlesjone: if you can't burn a CD, you'll need to look into an alternative way of getting it22:21
snarksterdo you have a flash drive?22:21
p_quarlesjone: if a friend can burna CD for you, that would be great; otherwise, a flash drive, a network boot (would require another computer) or you'll have to request a CD from Canonical22:21
joneYes I have a flash drive, and yes I installed Unetbootin or what it was called.. but when I choose it during startup I get weird behaviour.. the screen starts flickering and the first options dialog is scrolling through the monitor in an intense speed (impossible to read what the options are)22:22
PuRAny brasilians?22:22
joneI have several other computers available22:22
p_quarles!br | PuRA22:22
ubottuPuRA: Por favor use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.22:22
hyper_chjone: PXE could also be an option22:22
hyper_chjone: but that depends on the computer you try to install to22:22
snarksterjone you can use a 1 gig flash drive to create a installable install22:23
PuRA#urubuntu-br22:23
PuRAok?22:23
p_quarlesPuRA: type /join #ubuntu-br22:23
snarksteror you can download the iso of 8.10 and then goto pendrivelinux.com to learn how to create a installable flashdrive that way22:23
snarksteror install usb-creator to create a installable flash drive22:24
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hyper_chjone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux22:26
jonehyper_ch: that looked interesting, thanks22:27
hyper_chjone: or a step back:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation22:28
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snarksteror very complex..22:32
snarksterusb creator will work easily and only uses a 1 gig flash drive that if your computer can boot from usb will allow you to install22:32
emmaany ideas how to get knetworkmanager to actually connect to a signal that it sees?23:13
emmai have an UNSECURED wifi here in the house, kubuntu sees it, but i can't make anything connect.23:14
emmais there perhaps a way to do this with a cli tool or something?23:14
cllaudyucan someone help me with Konversation how can i add another irc server to it?23:15
xjjkemma: AFAIK, no23:16
cllaudyuand how can i save it23:16
xjjkcllaudyu: should be easy... what are you having problems with?23:16
HappySmileMancllaudyu: File > Server List > New...23:16
emmathere must be a way to connect to a wifi signal without a gui23:16
emmaiwconfig maybe?23:16
xjjkemma: well, yes, but with knetworkmanager23:16
xjjkor network manager in general23:16
emmais knetworkmanager just broken in kubuntu then?23:16
cllaudyufirst i want to find out how to send a messange to a nickname on main chat23:16
xjjkemma: not likely... it's probably something characteristic to that wifi network/your machine23:17
cllaudyui don't want to write a nick every time23:17
crimsunemma: sure, you can use iwconfig (from wireless-tools) or wpasupplicant23:17
crimsunemma: does knetworkmanager spit out any debug info/23:17
emmawell this signal is not secured. and knetworkmanager DOES see it there, it shows the ESSID and strong signal but there is no indication of how to connect.23:18
xjjkemma: er, click the menu entry?23:18
xjjkwhat happens when you try to select it23:18
cllaudyuwhat is Bookmarks for in Konversation? it saves the irc channel?23:18
emmawhat do you mean click the main entry?23:18
emmawhen i select it, nothing happens.23:18
xjjkcheck for debug info..23:18
xjjkusually in /var/log/messages or syslog23:19
emmait's just about the most outrageous thing i've seen.23:19
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Guest80251eagles0513875: not to bad for a pIII23:20
crimsunemma: tried `tail -F /var/log/daemon.log' in a separate Konsole simultaneously?23:21
emmai'll give it another chance but i think it's pretty hopeless.23:21
emmathe difficult thing is, i'm dual booting here so i'm using windows to chat with you now. Whatever advice you give I have to restart and try it in kubuntu.23:22
xjjkugh23:22
emmaand if it doesn't work i have to restart and boot all over again to come back here.23:22
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emmaso it sounds like 'try to find bug report'23:22
xjjkemma: thanks for mentioning... you probably want to try to find a few different ways to get online23:23
xjjkand try to fix within linux rather than rebooting all the time23:23
crimsuni recommend virtualbox + kubuntu23:23
emmathere's no way.23:23
xjjkemma: how do you know...23:23
xjjkhave you tried connecting via the CLI/raw wpa_supplicant?23:23
xjjkI actually use wpa_supplicant myself... knetworkmanager isn't there for me yet23:23
cllaudyuit's surprising for me to see everything working fine without crashes23:24
xjjkemma: setting up wpa_supplicant is a bit of a headache, though23:24
crimsunusing iwconfig is fairly painless, however.23:25
cllaudyui spoked to soon A Fatal Error Occurred23:25
xjjkmm, yah, it's a network without any encryption/auth, correct emma?23:25
cllaudyuThe application Plasma Workspace (plasma) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV).23:25
* xjjk continues to use KDE 3.5.9 in hardy waiting for KDE 4.223:26
cllaudyuSysinfo for 'kubuntu': Linux 2.6.27-9-generic running KDE 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3), CPU: AMDAthlonXP2000+ at 1661 MHz (3323 bogomips), HD: 2/8GB, RAM: 205/248MB, 114 proc's, 18.47min up23:26
joneI followed the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux - (did it manually) and it worked fine, booted the installer, but when I choose where I want it installed, the original sda disk is gone, so i am unable to install it to /dev/sda123:26
jonebut it is visible in /proc/partitions23:28
emmaxjjk: yes no security23:28
xjjkemma: the braindead way to connect with iwconfig (not robust)23:29
xjjkexit knetworkmanager23:29
xjjksudo iwconfig # check what your wireless if is23:29
xjjksudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "your essid" # if wlan0 was your wireless interface23:29
emmathat sounds like it's workable.23:29
xjjksudo dhclient wlan0 # fetch IP via DHCP, if using DHCP23:30
emmaput the essid in quotes?23:30
xjjkthis isn't robust at all, and it not working does not mean you cannot get it to work23:30
xjjkif the essid contains a space, yes23:30
emmait does not.23:30
xjjkwithout quotes is fine23:30
emmai'll try iwconfig23:31
xjjkemma: if you want to go the wpa_supplicant route...23:31
xjjkemma: hold23:31
emmaokay23:31
xjjkemma: so, Debian/Ubuntu have a networking mode called wireless roaming23:32
xjjkyou configure it all via text files23:32
xjjkand it uses wpa_supplicant, no GUI23:32
xjjknot that you need one...23:32
xjjkif you've a new network, you add to a config file23:32
xjjkand wpa_supplicant automatically connects if in range23:33
emmaknetworkmanager needs to be fixed.23:33
xjjkeh it needs to be made more reliable23:33
xjjkand report errors23:33
xjjknot that Windows or OS X are any better23:33
xjjkyou'll get an error "can't connect" but usually there's little you can do about it23:34
xjjkemma: see /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz23:35
xjjkread the details on setting up "roaming mode"23:35
SJr|NbookIs there some reason I get an error "Invalid Argument 'Ad-Hoc'" error when I try to issue iwconfig ath0 mode Ad-Hoc23:35
xjjkSJr|Nbook: the atheros driver is a PITA, and does stuff differently23:36
SJr|NbookAh23:36
xjjkthe error is self-explanatory... the driver doesnt support ad-hoc model like that23:36
SJr|Nbookwhat should I do?23:36
xjjkthere's this other way to do it, not via iwconfig23:36
xjjksee madwifi's website23:36
SJr|NbookShould I try and use the ndiswrapper?23:37
xjjkI've never used ndiswrapper myself but stories tell me no, avoid it if you can23:37
xjjklinux-native drivers will almost always be better23:37
joneCould anyone see screenshot? http://skittent.net/~enoj/kubuntu-installer.png - Trying to install Kubuntu using these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux ( got partition where I placed the contents from the cd and edited grub to boot from this partition (booting from partition is (0,4)) - sda1 never appears in the install to the right in the screenshot23:38
SJr|Nbookthanks xjjk23:39
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Hydrant2Hello all... strange issue with Kubuntu 8.10... when I put in a CD, isn't it supposed to come up with a menu of actions?23:39
Hydrant2it doesn't for me on this install, and I think I might be missing a package or something is wrong23:39
venom_c'est fr ici23:42
SJr|Nbookxjjk is there something else I need to do to be able to see the ad-hoc network after it's up as adhoc23:42
genii-aroundvenom_: Non.  #kubuntu-fr23:42
venom_lol23:42
xjjkSJr|Nbook: don't think so... I haven't done this in a long time23:42
venom_tu comprend bien le français pour un us23:42
SJr|NbookHmmmm maybe I'll try this in windows first23:43
xjjkyou followed all the instructions on the madwifi website right?23:43
SJr|NbookYeah23:43
SJr|Nbookit's up23:43
genii-aroundvenom_: Canadian23:43
SJr|Nbookbut it's not broadcasting23:43
SJr|Nbookand I can't join it.23:43
venom_tu connais pas moobu par azard23:43
genii-aroundvenom_: English only here svp23:44
xjjkSJr|Nbook: don't think I can help you with that... check madwifi's support?23:44
Roeyhi23:45
Roeyquestion23:45
RoeyI can't get sound working after I rebooted.  I get this:  http://pastebin.com/m77920f82.  What's the issue, does anyone know?23:45
venom_hum pas facille , ho to the install Moobu ?23:46
chophi23:46
Roeyhiiiiii23:47
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crimsunsudo fuser -v /dev/snd/*23:47
crimsunpastebin the output23:47
willywhats a good programe for yahoo23:47
crimsunwilly: meaning chat? try kopete.23:47
willyi got  friend in yahoo23:48
willyand i need a good programe23:48
Roeycrimsun:  heya!23:48
willyis that with  voice23:48
kidhi all23:49
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Roeycrimsun:  http://pastebin.com/m4814d30c23:49
Roeycrimsun:  yeah I did that before, had no idea what to kill23:49
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crimsunRoey: sudo pkill timidity23:50
RoeyI tried.23:50
Roeyone sec.23:50
Roeystill no go, crimsun23:50
metalman1673how can i change from the gome desktop to the kde desktop??????23:50
Roeybrb23:50
crimsunRoey: what are you testing to determine "no go"?23:51
metalman1673can anyone give me a hand23:51
crimsunmetalman1673: did you install kubuntu-desktop ?23:51
emmaim back.23:52
xjjkemma: how'd it go?23:52
emmaxjjk -- i wsa just over to kubuntu again, when i did sudo iwconfig it did not list any valid signals.23:52
xjjkemma: it did not list any network interfaces23:52
xjjk?23:53
crimsunyou don't need to wait til it's listed if you know the essid23:53
emmaxjjk: yeah not really.23:53
emmabut it's eth123:53
xjjkemma: that's odd..23:53
xjjkoh, well OK23:53
xjjkdid the rest of the steps work?23:53
emmaits eth1 i can tell that from knetwork manager which does find the signal and even shows that it's strong but then the icon never lights up and says it's disconnected.23:54
emmakjjk no they did nothing.23:54
Roeycrimsun:  mpg12323:54
xjjkemma: what did trying to get an IP via DHCP do?23:54
xjjktime outs?23:54
xjjkyou should get errors23:54
xjjkif something is wrong23:55
emmai didn't try that, i don't remember what to do there.23:55
crimsunRoey: did you actually kill timidity?23:55
xjjkemma: it was the last line I gave you, sudo dhclient eth123:55
crimsunRoey: i.e., do you need to sudo /etc/init.d/timidity stop ?23:55
Roeyyes23:55
Roeyyes and mpg123 still gives me those errors23:55
emmaxjjk, just sudo dhclient eth1 ?23:55
xjjkemma: yes23:56
daz_Hi everyone. I want to use rdiff-backup, and I was just wondering if, as well as replacing changed/removed files, it removes file that weren't originally backed up (like a system restore point)23:56
willyhey any good yahoo programes to chat23:56
xjjkemma: without having run that, you'd not have an IP address23:56
Roeyhey emma23:56
emmaanything else i should type there because every time i try i have to reboot twice.23:56
xjjkthe iwconfig step only associates with a wireless network23:56
metalman1673how can i change from gome to kde23:56
xjjkemma: just to recap...23:56
Hydrant2when people here put in a CD, does it pop up a menu like in KDE 3 for them (on Intrepid) ?23:56
xjjksudo iwconfig eth2 essid "your essid"23:57
emmabut it's eth1 isn't it>23:57
xjjksudo iwconfig eth2 # make sure eth2 it using that essid (may not necessarily be connected)23:57
xjjker, sorry, eth123:57
xjjksudo dhclient eth123:57
xjjkto get an IP23:57
emmain that order?23:57
xjjkyou should have Internet access after that23:57
xjjkyes23:57
daz_metalman1673: Do you want to completely ditch Gnome, or have both Gnome AND KDE available?23:57
emmaokay.23:57
xjjkerr, blah, and make sure you exit knetworkmanager23:57
emmai'm going to write it down in pencil.23:57
xjjkbefore doing any of this23:57
willy    here dude              http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde23:58
xjjk(1) turn off knetworkmanager (2) sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "your essid" (3) sudo dhclient eth123:58
xjjkthat is the minimum23:58
willyits tell u how to do it23:58
Roeycrimsun:  yes and mpg123 still gives me those errors23:58
crimsunRoey: is timidity still running, though?23:59
crimsunRoey: you'll continue to get those errors if timidity is running.23:59
willydoes any 1 know what a good programe to run on yahoo23:59

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