[00:00] <mrunagi> this is annoying
[00:02] <mrunagi> how can i download this shared library
[00:03] <dstar_> Found it. 'Display content while moving' windows, same-same resiez.
[00:04] <apostle> hi all
[00:04] <apostle> anybody know of any good linux based games?
[00:05] <RurouniJones> http://www.happypenguin.org/
[00:06] <apostle> thanks, i shall have a look
[00:08] <colee> hello!  I have a problem:  The version of KWin in Jaunty won't start . It gives this error kwin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kwin.so: undefined symbol: _ZTI26KDecorationFactoryUnstable
[00:13] <DaSkreech> !games
[00:13] <colee> Anyone?
[00:13] <DaSkreech> mrunagi: can you start X manually?
[00:14] <wimpies> hi all, i have this url http://www.q-music.be/asx/q_high.asx which I would like to add to my radio playlist but it does not seem to be able to connect to the stream.  When I use FF, them an mplayer plugin IS able to play
[00:14] <colee> It's not a game.  It's the KDE Window Manager!
[00:15] <DaSkreech> colee: Jaunty questions don't belong here
[00:16] <colee> then where do I ask?
[00:20] <colee> Who do I ask?
[00:22] <guiterb> all
[00:22] <guiterb> good morning
[00:23] <DaSkreech> colee: #ubuntu+1
[00:23] <DaSkreech> hi guiterb
[00:23] <DaSkreech> mrunagi: Are you there?
[00:24] <guiterb> hi,daskreech
[00:24] <DaSkreech> Hello
[00:25] <guiterb> have you ever install the driver 'ipwraw'?
[00:25] <guiterb> the driver is used for the wireless card in monitor mode
[00:26] <guiterb> but when i compile it ,something go wrong
[00:41] <nathan_> how can i get and install wine through terminal?
[00:42] <JontheEchidna> sudo apt-get install wine
[00:43] <nathan_> ty
[00:44] <JontheEchidna> yw
[00:45] <HappySmileMan> nathan_: There's more up to date versions available, with installation instructions at winehq.org
[00:45] <HappySmileMan> In case you want them, there's probably no need though
[00:46] <DaSkreech> What goes wrong?
[00:46] <DaSkreech> Possibly
[00:47] <nathan_> how do you download and install guild wars into wine from terminal?
[00:48] <kevin_> i need some assistance with installing my wireless card
[00:48] <OxDeadC0de> how far are the ubuntu guys taking the double letter alphabetical release scheme? Did they start it at AA?
[00:50] <kevin_> anyhelp would be greatly appreciated
[00:50] <kevin_> anyone?
[00:51] <OxDeadC0de> kevin_ What wifi card? are there linux drivers for it, or do you need to use ndiswrapper?
[00:52] <kevin_> dead: i have no idea
[00:52] <nathan_> anyone got link to wine chat?
[00:52] <kevin_> dead: i just installed linux today
[00:52] <OxDeadC0de> #winehq or #wine nathan_?
[00:52] <OxDeadC0de> kevin_ in a console: lspci | grep Network
[00:53] <OxDeadC0de> or try lspci | grep WLAN
[00:53] <kevin_> result: Texas Instruments ACX 100 22Mbps Wireless Interface
WARNING: $SHELL not set to bash.
[00:55] <OxDeadC0de> kevin_ try "sudo modprobe acx" in your console
[00:55] <guiterb> but my shell is bash
[00:56] <DaSkreech> guiterb: not your scrpting shell
[00:56] <DaSkreech> guiterb: That's dash
[00:56] <OxDeadC0de> kevin_ then "iwconfig" to make sure the interface now exists
[00:56] <DaSkreech> !dash
[00:57] <kevin_> dead: ok it shows up
[00:57] <kevin_> result:
[00:57] <kevin_> IEEE 802.11b+  Nickname:"acx v0.3.36"
[00:57] <kevin_>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
[00:57] <kevin_>           Bit Rate:22 Mb/s   Tx-Power=18 dBm   Sensitivity=176/255
[00:57] <kevin_>           Retry min limit:7   RTS thr:off
[00:57] <kevin_>           Power Management:off
[00:57] <kevin_>           Link Quality=18/100  Signal level=21/100  Noise level=13/100
[00:57] <kevin_>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[00:57] <kevin_>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[00:57] <OxDeadC0de> don't
[00:58] <OxDeadC0de> that's what pastebins are for ;)
[00:58] <OxDeadC0de> kevin_ but it seems to be working, try setting it to your access point with network manager
[00:58] <guiterb> what to do?
[00:59] <DaSkreech> guiterb: What are you compiling?
 ipwraw,a driver for inter3945 wireless card
[00:59] <guiterb> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-386/build M=/opt/ipwraw-ng modules
[00:59] <DaSkreech> Is it not provided by ubuntu ?
[01:00] <guiterb> yes
[01:00] <DaSkreech> Yes it is provided or yes it is not provided ?
[01:01] <OxDeadC0de> kevin_ now to make it work every boot without typing "sudo modprobe acx" do: sudo /etc/modules, add "acx" to it's own line near the end, control+x to exit (it will ask you to save)
[01:01] <guiterb> not provided
[01:02] <OxDeadC0de> kevin_ now to make it work every boot without typing "sudo modprobe acx" do: sudo /etc/modules, add "acx" to it's own line near the end, control+x to exit (it will ask you to save)
[01:02] <kevin_> dead: ok it is not finding any access points.
[01:02] <guiterb> but some body install it on the ubuntu
[01:03] <cuznt> my desktop is not remembering its widgets
[01:03] <cuznt> :_(
[01:03] <kevin_> dead: and my computer seems to freeze whenever it is plugged in
[01:03] <OxDeadC0de> kevin_ what does "iwlist wlan0 scan" report (replace wlan0 with the device id reported by iwconfig)
[01:03] <cuznt> how does it run theN?
[01:03] <DaSkreech> guiterb: inter3945 == intel 39445 ?
[01:04] <OxDeadC0de> kevin_ don't paste it all here
[01:04] <ubuntu> well..........i managed to destroy my kubuntu installation.......i learned its not good to upgrade
[01:04] <kevin_> result: no scan results
[01:04] <OxDeadC0de> ubuntu what happened?
[01:04] <nathan_> anyone know how to uninstall wine in terminall?
[01:05] <ubuntu> well when i upgraded x wouldnt start because shared libraries werent found, libxdmcp.so.6 and when i tried to install it it said already newest version, so i uninstalled it and it uninstalled a bunch of things including my ability to get online,,,,,,,,,
[01:05] <OxDeadC0de> kevin_ search launchpad for acx cards on ubuntu, if it comes up with nothing useful try google and acx cards with linux :|
[01:05] <OxDeadC0de> ubuntu upgraded from what to what?
[01:06] <ubuntu> hardy to intrepid
[01:07] <OxDeadC0de> hmm what happened? I'm guessing you had third party repo's installed? those are the only things that really broke upgrades for me
[01:07] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: can you chroot to it ?
[01:07] <ubuntu> i guess i did
[01:08] <ubuntu> i dont know now i guess im just going to reformat
[01:08] <guiterb> inter3945
[01:08] <cuznt> you had to  locate libxdmcp.so.6
[01:08] <ubuntu> it wasnt there
[01:08] <nathan_> anyone know how to uninstall wine from terminal?
[01:08] <ubuntu> couldnt be found

[01:08] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: you are on the live CD now right ?
[01:08] <ubuntu> yes
[01:09] <ubuntu> my lord now i cant back up my home folder
[01:09] <BluesKaj> OxDeadC0de, it could be you hardware, intrepid depends more on HAL than ever before so you may need to check out all the drivers required, not just the generic stuff
[01:09] <OxDeadC0de> ubuntu when doing a dist upgrade, I always (now)fully upgrade the regular stuff first, then clean out apt-cache, then when I do the dist upgrade I have all the packages on my hd, and if it fails for any reason I can force install everything, then run autoremove to fix things,
[01:09] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Yes you can
[01:09] <cuznt> nice.. thats a great idea Ox
[01:10] <DaSkreech> cuznt: It's the recommended way :)
[01:10] <DaSkreech> It's not fool rppof by any means
[01:10] <ubuntu> im getting input output errors
[01:10] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: On the hard drive?
[01:10] <ubuntu> yes
[01:10] <DaSkreech> What device is it is saying that for?
[01:10] <DaSkreech> Grrr
[01:10] <ubuntu> my external drive
[01:10] <ubuntu> this doesnt make sense because i can write to it with no problem
[01:10] <cuznt> ubuntu was missing libxdmcp.so.6 as i recall
[01:11] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Oh external what about the internal?
[01:11] <DaSkreech> I don't have that file
[01:11] <DaSkreech> Any here has libxdmcp.so.6 ?
[01:11] <nathan_> could someone help me uninstall wine?
[01:11] <ubuntu> i dont know
[01:11] <ubuntu> at this point im done trying to fix my install and reformatting
[01:11] <DaSkreech> nathan_: sudo apt-get remove wine
[01:12] <nathan_> Daty
[01:12] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Wait I can probably get it up
[01:12] <nathan_> DaSkreech: ty
[01:12] <DaSkreech> natyw
[01:12] <nate_> hello room, i am using hardy and just installed xmms manually but cant figure out how to add wma support anybody get this to work?
[01:12] <ubuntu> whats the partitioning software on the live cd
[01:12] <OxDeadC0de> i   libxdmcp6                                                                - X11 Display Manager Control Protocol library
[01:12] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: I was asking you before if you could run X
[01:12] <DaSkreech> OxDeadC0de: Yeah I have that I don't have a shared lib for it
[01:12] <ubuntu> i dont understand ur question
[01:13] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: do you just have a / partition or do you have another /home partition ?
[01:13] <guiterb> how to start ftp servers?
[01:13] <ubuntu> i have 2 partitions windows and linux
[01:13] <DaSkreech> !ftpd
[01:14] <DaSkreech> ubottu: Ok can you mount the linux partition ?
[01:14] <Dragnslcr> Fail!
[01:14] <DaSkreech> Shut up you
[01:14] <nathan_> how do i change my web browser i hate konquerer
[01:14] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: : Ok can you mount the linux partition ?
[01:14] <OxDeadC0de> -/usr/lib/libXdmcp.so
[01:15] <DaSkreech> nathan_: go to system settings and default applications change it to what you want
[01:15] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: can you mount the linux partition ?
[01:15] <ubuntu> yes
[01:16] <ubuntu> wait
[01:16] <ubuntu> sorry i mounted my windows
[01:16] <nate_> nathan_: i use mozilla firefox, works like a charm.  i too had problems with konquer loading some content
[01:16] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Ok in the terminal type sudo chroot /path/where/it/mountes
[01:16] <DaSkreech> mounted :)
[01:16] <ubuntu> ok now what
[01:18] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Ok you should be on your install so typing ls /home should see all your home directories
[01:18] <ubuntu> i do
[01:18] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Ok try sudo apt-get update
[01:19] <ubuntu> W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org hardy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[01:19] <nathan_> DaSkreech: what do i do when i get to default settings to change the browser?
[01:20] <ubuntu> W: Failed to fetch http://hendrik.kaju.pri.ee/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/screenlets/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Fou
[01:20] <OxDeadC0de> hah 3rd party repos!
[01:20] <nathan_> DaSkreech: im sorry default applications
[01:20] <DaSkreech> OxDeadC0de: No net is more worrying
[01:21] <DaSkreech> nathan_: There should be an option there for browser and mail just change it to what you like
[01:21] <ubuntu> so now?
[01:22] <OxDeadC0de> I would suggest he comment out the other repo's in his sources file?
[01:22] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: justt confirming those are the only two that don't work ?
[01:22] <beachsurfin> in kde4, what program do i use to search for new software to download? adept package manager or adept package installer?
[01:22] <OxDeadC0de> could be very wrong though
[01:22] <beachsurfin> because both are showing me nothing
[01:22] <OxDeadC0de> beachsurfin they're both adept
[01:23] <OxDeadC0de> beachsurfin fetch package lists
[01:23] <DaSkreech> beachsurfin: type sudo update-apt-xapian-index
[01:23] <DaSkreech> Oh yeah that too :)
[01:23] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: are those the only two errors? as in the rest go through normally?
[01:23] <NetSkier>  
[01:24] <beachsurfin> DaSkreech: what is that?
[01:24] <ubuntu> ill pastebin it all
[01:24] <ubuntu> !pastebin
[01:24] <DaSkreech> beachsurfin: it's the packages database a bug in adept doesn't update it if you add a new repo and you see nothing in adept
[01:25] <NetSkier> What do you suggest for troubleshooting Firefox when it crashes a 2-3 seconds after starting?  Kubuntu 8.1.
[01:25] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/93500/
[01:26] <OxDeadC0de> netskier open it in a console and type firefox
[01:27] <ubuntu> did u read DaSkreech?
[01:27] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:28] <NetSkier> OxDeadC0de, thnks; reading output now.
[01:28] <ubuntu>     E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[01:29] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Go! try it :)
[01:32] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Getting output?
[01:32] <nathan_> anyone know how to install guild wars into wine?
[01:33] <ubuntu> seems to have installed alot
[01:33] <OxDeadC0de> nathan_ check winehq
[01:33] <OxDeadC0de> the website
[01:33] <ubuntu> now what? reboot and try?
[01:33] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Expected :)
[01:33] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Can you?
[01:33] <ubuntu> yea brb
[01:33] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Well yeah of course you can you have irssi ?
[01:33] <DaSkreech> Hope he does
[01:34] <DaSkreech> assuming he
[01:34] <nathan_> how do i download and install guild wars into wine from the terminal?
[01:35] <nathan_> how do i download and install guild wras into wine from the terminal?
[01:35] <OxDeadC0de> nathan_ http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_on_Wine asking more than once doesn't help
[01:39] <NetSkier> OxDeadC0de, starting Firefox in a console produces 13 lines of output, most of which I don't understand, but suggesting that there is a bug in the program causing it to receive an X-windows error.  What should I do next?
[01:40] <OxDeadC0de> netskier: personally i'd do mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old and restart it with a default profile
[01:40] <ubuntu> heh forget it
[01:40] <ubuntu> im reformatting
[01:41] <NetSkier> OxDeadC0de, worth a try.  Proceeding.
[01:41] <OxDeadC0de> then you can go into the .mozilla-old and move the bookmarks
[01:41] <NetSkier> cd
[01:41] <OxDeadC0de> ubuntu: if you reformat please follow some advice
[01:41] <OxDeadC0de> ubuntu: make a seperate partition for /home
[01:41] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: What happened?
[01:41] <beachsurfin> still not seeing what i'm searching for
[01:41] <OxDeadC0de> ubuntu: then if it ever happens again you don't loose any personal data
[01:41] <beachsurfin> nothing is showing up
[01:41] <beachsurfin> "tor"
[01:41] <OxDeadC0de> lose*
[01:41] <DaSkreech> !tor
[01:41] <beachsurfin> i know it's in the repos
[01:42] <beachsurfin> the problem isn't how to use tor, it's that it like others aren't showing up in the adept programs
[01:42] <beachsurfin> even after doing the command mentioned earlier
[01:43] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: no Net ?
[01:43] <OxDeadC0de> beachsurfin if you open a console and do: "aptitude search kde" does it show anything?
[01:43] <beachsurfin> would the "state" and "requested" checkmarks have soemthing to do with this? all the icons on their rows are colored
[01:43] <beachsurfin> OxDeadC0de: yes
[01:44] <beachsurfin> i've been using the command line because of this problem, but i'm wanting to fix it now
[01:44] <ubuntu> i cant mount my external
[01:44] <ubuntu> what the heck is all this
[01:44] <OxDeadC0de> beachsurfin just a thought, you can try "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"  and see if there was a fix for adept
[01:45] <beachsurfin> nothing to be upgraded
[01:45] <OxDeadC0de> haha in kde 4.2b2 adept installer doesn't launch for me even ;P
[01:45] <beachsurfin> is what i'm told
[01:45] <OxDeadC0de> tho I can launch it via cli
[01:46] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: What happened when you rebooted?
[01:46] <ubuntu> i couldnt get online
[01:46] <ubuntu> and x wouldnt start
[01:46] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: same error with X ?
[01:47] <OxDeadC0de> hmm beachsurfin did you install that thing daskreech suggested?
[01:47] <ubuntu> i didnt try
[01:47] <ubuntu> im already extremely frustrated
[01:47] <beachsurfin> OxDeadC0de: yeah
[01:47] <ubuntu> nothing is working
[01:47] <beachsurfin> !bugs
[01:47] <DaSkreech> beachsurfin: Don't bother Adept is dead
[01:47] <beachsurfin> DaSkreech: what's its replacement?
[01:47] <DaSkreech> kpackagekit
[01:48] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Will you lose anything?
[01:49] <ubuntu> im trying to mount my external to back up my home folder but nothing seems to work for me
[01:50] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: What's the error?
[01:50] <ubuntu> Operation not supported
[01:50] <ubuntu> Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:
[01:51] <DaSkreech> ugh
[01:51] <DaSkreech> two choices let windows mount it or force the mount
[01:51] <OxDeadC0de> kpackage is kind of cool but the gui needs a workover
[01:51] <nathan_> how do you get taskbar to autohide?
[01:52] <[NetSkier> OxDeadC0de, Starting FF with a new profile did not help;  Here is the main error:  jw@Baker:~$ firefox
[01:52] <[NetSkier> FirebugService fbs.DBG_FBS_CREATION: false fbs.DBG_FBS_BP:false fbs.DBG_FBS_ERRORS:false fbs.DBG_FBS_STEP:false fbs.DBG_FBS_FUNCTION:false
[01:52] <[NetSkier> debugger.onModuleDeactivate Attempt to deactive context that is not active chrome://ubufox/content/startpage.html
[01:52] <DaSkreech> !paste | [NetSkier
[01:52] <DaSkreech> nathan_: KDE 4.2
[01:52] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Right ?
[01:52] <SJr|Nbook> Can someone explain this screen garbage I keep getting in KDE4 on Kubuntu 8.10: http://sjrx.net/crap.png
[01:52] <[NetSkier> What is the definition of "large texts" for the bot?
[01:52] <SJr|Nbook> It seems to happen everywhere, randomly.
[01:53] <SJr|Nbook> It happens with this card an Intel 945, and my Nvidia 7400 Go.
[01:53] <SJr|Nbook> I have turned off Desktop Effects, but it is still prevalant.
[01:53] <HappySmileMan> [NetSkier: Anything with more than a couple of lines, so that you don't fill up the IRC channel with your text
[01:53] <DaSkreech> [NetSkier: more than two lines
[01:53] <OxDeadC0de> !https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/225257
[01:53] <ubuntu> ok got it mounted............now i bet it wont let me copy my home to it
[01:54] <DaSkreech> SJr|Nbook: Combo of drivers and KDE bug I haven't seen it at all since installing KDE 4.2
[01:54] <OxDeadC0de> netskier: See link
[01:54] <SJr|Nbook> DaSkreech did you use to see it?
[01:54] <DaSkreech> Yes
[01:54] <SJr|Nbook> like where ever a menu was rendering, etc...
[01:54] <OxDeadC0de> SJr|Nbook they mostly fixed it in 4.1.3 but not completly, in 4.2 it's all but gone
[01:54] <SJr|Nbook> Oh sweet jesus
[01:55] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: May want to backup the packages you had installed as well so you can reference it later
[01:55] <ubuntu> there we go i think its copying
[01:55] <OxDeadC0de> sjr|nbook they've got it down to sometimes a little white border around a systray icon that's written for gtk (gnome)
[01:55] <SJr|Nbook> oh okay
[01:55] <SJr|Nbook> hmmmm
[01:57] <OxDeadC0de> I can't wait for 4.2B3
[01:57] <OxDeadC0de> B2 rocks so far
[01:57] <SJr|Nbook> Hmmmm how stable is 4.2 thus far
[01:57] <SJr|Nbook> It's really annoying me
[01:57] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Did you install a lot of stuff?
[01:57] <OxDeadC0de> Sjr|Nbook it has quirks, but once they're "sorted out" it's better than 4.1.3, couldn't get 4.1.3 to not crash overnight while sleeping, this session has been running 2 days without a crash (but I know ways to force it to crash..)
[01:58] <HappySmileMan> SJr|Nbook: Only time 4.2 has crashed for me is when enabling comic plasmoid, though I don't use much plasmoids
[01:58] <SJr|Nbook> OxDeadC0de is one of them to "Press the K Button" or "Open an application" or "Look at the screen"
[01:58] <OxDeadC0de> Sjr|Nbook - when first setting a comic on the comic plasmoid it will crash, but if you keep retrying eventually it will stop crashing :P So you Can use comics
[01:58] <DaSkreech> SJr|Nbook: For me really really stable. anecdotaly plasma and kmail have a few crashes but the most part it's very good
[01:58] <OxDeadC0de> lol no
[01:58] <SJr|Nbook> Don't care about plasmoids.
[01:58] <DaSkreech> HappySmileMan: Speaking of which it's time for me to go crash plasma
[01:59] <OxDeadC0de> It's the comic plasmoid, and if you drop a folderview plasmoid onto the taskbar.. it crashes for me, others said it didn't for them
[01:59] <SJr|Nbook> I don't have any, not even the desktop plasmoid, thank you KDE for ruining it
[01:59] <HappySmileMan> SJr|Nbook: Yeah look at the screen and it crashes, I use my peripheral vision and it's fine though :P
[01:59] <OxDeadC0de> HAHA
[01:59] <DaSkreech> OxDeadC0de: use the quick access plasmoid it's waaaaay nicer
[01:59] <SJr|Nbook> Hmmmmm
[01:59] <OxDeadC0de> DaSkreech I do already, was just testing it to see what happened
[01:59] <DaSkreech> SJr|Nbook: It's better in KDE 4.2 you can have your old KDE 3 desktop back
[01:59] <SJr|Nbook> ugh... oh well 4.2 it is. Hmmmm is that something I get at launchpad or whatever.
[01:59] <SJr|Nbook> Oh my god really
[01:59] <OxDeadC0de> DaSkreech was hoping it'd be smart enough to do something other than crash and make a tiny ass folder view, like turn it into an icon
[02:00] <DaSkreech> OxDeadC0de: Ah yes me too but I hate folderview now that I have quick access
[02:00] <SJr|Nbook> KDE 3.5 was so good.
[02:00] <DaSkreech> SJr|Nbook: It's in the topic
[02:00] <DaSkreech> SJr|Nbook: KDE 4.5 will likely be better :)
[02:00] <SJr|Nbook> I dunno KDE seems to be going on the weirdest tangent.
[02:00] <OxDeadC0de> 4.3 will be better even.. :P
[02:00] <DaSkreech> SJr|Nbook: What's strange about it?
[02:00] <OxDeadC0de> From a programming perspective, I like this tangent
[02:01] <OxDeadC0de> makes things a bit easier to play with
[02:01] <SJr|Nbook> There trying new things, which is by definition bad.
[02:01] <OxDeadC0de> and by a bit I mean a lot
[02:01] <SJr|Nbook> It's like voting for the Democratic party, or granting universal sufferage
[02:01] <kevin_> hello again dead
[02:01] <SJr|Nbook> I liked it better when I got three hog heads to the gallon, and the kaiser was still in power.
[02:02] <DaSkreech> SJr|Nbook: trying new things are bad? or they are trying new things that are bad?
[02:02] <SJr|Nbook> I dunno :P I'm exagurating of course. I'll just say that it's different, and I thought KDE was near perfect (from a user perspective, clearly not a programming one).
[02:02] <DaSkreech> in either case you are wrong :)
[02:02] <kevin_> my wireless card is still not detecting my wireless access point any suggestions that might help?
[02:02] <SJr|Nbook> KDE 3.5
[02:03] <OxDeadC0de> woot, I'm happy, before the vote on my frequency scaler plasmoid was going way down, but recently it went back up 3 points, yay :P
[02:03] <SJr|Nbook> I'm sure History will invalidate my opinion
[02:03] <DaSkreech> SJr|Nbook: This is offtopic in any case if you want chat about it #kubuntu-offtopic is where we shall go
[02:03] <DaSkreech> OxDeadC0de: it's not stock :-P
[02:03] <SJr|Nbook> Ah
[02:03] <SJr|Nbook> Ah sorry I didn't realize.
[02:04] <SJr|Nbook> Hmmmmm Why do next to know plasmoids show up in my list either
[02:04] <kevin_> please, any help at all?
[02:04] <DaSkreech> SJr|Nbook: Kubuntu split plasmoids out into a seperate package and decided not to install it for some reason
[02:04] <DaSkreech> kevin_: what does sudo iwlist scan say ?
[02:05] <SJr|Nbook> hmmmm
[02:05] <SJr|Nbook> yeah but why like do I have a CPU Frequency plasmoid that once I remove, I can't get back :P
[02:05] <kevin_> no scan results
[02:06] <DaSkreech> kevin_: laptop?
[02:06] <kevin_> yes
[02:09] <DaSkreech> kevin_: Do you have the kill switch on or off ?
[02:09] <korn> Hello, I'd like to ask what is the easiest way to obtain the Mozilla Firefox browser with a new Ubuntu installation
[02:09] <korn> ?
[02:09] <kevin_> how do i check?
[02:09] <korn> thanks, in advance
[02:09] <kevin_> korn : sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:10] <DaSkreech> korn: you mean kubuntu installation :) It's installed already on Ubuntu
[02:11] <korn> yes, sorry, kubuntu
[02:11] <DaSkreech> kevin_: Most laptops have a switch somewhere that will turn off the wireless card
[02:11] <kevin_> oh hold up let me check
[02:13] <kevin_> it is off
[02:13] <kevin_> i pressed it many times
[02:14] <kevin_> never pulled up my network
[02:14] <SJr|Nbook> Anyone know a tool that can copy files and report the file transfer rate in like a text file
[02:14] <korn> kevin_: thanks. Does Firefox then come with the standard ubuntu installation, or is it first downloaded with the apt-get command?
[02:15] <kevin_> korn: no prob. and i believe it is the standard Ubuntu installation
[02:15] <nathan_> were would i find the wine config in kubuntu?
[02:16] <kevin_> nathan_: have you installed wine?
[02:16] <nathan_> kevin_: yes sir
[02:17] <kevin_> nathan_: it should be in your kmenu
[02:17] <DaSkreech> in ~/.wine
[02:17] <korn> kevin_: okay, thank you.
[02:19] <nathan_> kevin_:  cant find it anywere is there a way to run it from the terminal?
[02:19] <kevin_> nathan_: im not sure. i don't use wine much
[02:20] <maximiliano> HI ALL OF U!
[02:20] <kevin_> hello max
[02:20] <maximiliano> I am from Argentina,
[02:20] <maximiliano> hi kevin
[02:20] <maximiliano> It is my first day in kubuntu
[02:20] <kevin_> mine to
[02:21] <kevin_> just came from ubuntu
[02:21] <maximiliano> ok COLEGA :D
[02:21] <kevin_> im liking it so far
[02:21] <kevin_> jaja
[02:21] <kevin_> haha*
[02:21] <maximiliano> haha
[02:21] <maximiliano> me too
[02:21] <nathan_> does anyone know how to run wine config from the terminal?
[02:21] <maximiliano> but, I come from windows...
[02:21] <kevin_> skreech: anything else that may help?
[02:22] <kevin_> nathan_: try google. i have found it to be my friend since installing linux.
[02:22] <maximiliano> how can i install Ares or Emule?????
[02:22] <beachsurfin> "WARNING: terminal is not fully functional" man [anything] shows a list of where the command is listed in other man pages, my terminal doesn't like me and i'm not liking its silly behavior
[02:23] <kevin_> max: try to open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install ares
[02:23] <SJr|Nbook> What is the plasmoid packages, i.e. so I can get a list of them to install?
[02:25] <DaSkreech> kevin_: You should try KDE 4.2
[02:25] <DaSkreech> nathan_: winecfg
[02:25] <DaSkreech> !info amule
[02:25] <DaSkreech> !info emule
[02:25] <maximiliano> thanks kevin!!!!!       thanks so much!!!
[02:26] <maximiliano> happy new year!!!!
[02:26] <maximiliano> bye!!!!!!!
[02:26] <maximiliano> :D
[02:26] <DaSkreech> bye
[02:27] <DaSkreech> SJr|Nbook: plasmoid-quickaccess kdeplasmoids
[02:27] <DaSkreech> kdeplasma-addons
[02:29] <SJr|Nbook> hmmmm thanks DaSkreech, hmmmm I think this is everything except that KDM still sucks
[02:29] <SJr|Nbook> but oh well
[02:29] <DaSkreech> What is the suck about it? :)
[02:30] <SJr|Nbook> It seems that on the outer 124/2 pixels there is just that same graphic corruption.
[02:30] <SJr|Nbook> 62 pixels
[02:30] <DaSkreech> Really? Hmm
[02:31] <DaSkreech> I'll look next time I have to login which isn't that often
[02:31] <DaSkreech> Though I might logout soon :)
[02:31] <SJr|Nbook> I'm on a netbook though
[02:31] <SJr|Nbook> I think KDM wants it to be 800x600, and just puts crap in the outter 124 pixes
[02:31] <SJr|Nbook> 224*
[02:37] <SJr|Nbook> DaSkreech hmmmmm I guess that is only for KDE 4.1, since according to apt, I have a conflict between kdeplasma-addons (which kdeplasmoids depends on) and kdeplasmoids.
[02:38] <p_quarles> does anyone know exactly which file contains the Qt theme and color scheme settings for KDE3 applications in 8.10?
[02:39] <juanda> holas
[02:40] <juanda> quien quiere ablar
[02:40] <p_quarles> !es
[02:45] <Derath> I have a couple questions regarding folderview, if anyone is awake that can help
[02:47] <kevin_> ok new problem for me
[02:48] <kevin_> i get a kernel panic at times when my wireless card is in
[02:48] <kevin_> it only occures when the card is in
[02:49] <kevin_> any tips to help with this problem would be greatly appreciated
[02:49] <kevin_> anyone?
[02:49] <madhu> hi all
[02:50] <cuznt> whats a kernal panic?
[02:50] <madhu> can anybody say how to install webcam driver?
[02:50] <madhu> im using acer 4z10z
[02:50] <cuznt> if it is creative web cam?
[02:50] <cuznt> :p
[02:50] <cuznt> !webcam
[02:51] <kevin_> cuznt: when the computer freezes up and the caps lock and scroll lock lights on the keyboard blink
[02:51] <cuznt> oh man
[02:51] <DaSkreech> SJr|Nbook: kdeplasma-addons is the valid package
[02:51] <cuznt> thats got to suck,,
[02:51] <kevin_> cuznts: the only way im back on is through hard reset
[02:51] <kevin_> it does
[02:51] <kevin_> so any help?
[02:52] <DaSkreech> Derath: Questions?
[02:52] <SJr|Nbook> Yeah I just get a dependancy problem
[02:52] <cuznt> no idea
[02:52] <DaSkreech> kevin_: What card
[02:52] <Derath> Using kde 4.1, how can I show the full name of files in Folder View, and how can I create a launcher to an app with parameters?
[02:52] <kevin_> my wireless card
[02:53] <kevin_> and it wont even detect my network on this machine
[02:53] <dinesh> i have kubuntu installed and now trying to install tomcat. tomcat installs fine but when i start tomcat
[02:53] <dinesh> from terminal window
[02:53] <kevin_> it works on other machines
[02:53] <dinesh> i get permissions issued writing to log files
[02:53] <kevin_> just not this one
[02:53] <DaSkreech> Derath: a .desktop file will launch any file
[02:54] <p_quarles> kevin_: what's the wireless card?
[02:54] <DaSkreech> dinesh: you probably need to start it as particualr user
[02:55] <dinesh> i do see tomcat55 user auto created wit nogroup
[02:55] <kevin_> p_quarles: acx 100
[02:55] <dinesh> but i cant change the owner or login to root
[02:55] <dinesh> it doesnt allow me to loign to root
[02:56] <kevin_> p_quarles: the main thing im worried about right now is the kernel panics. cuz without that fixed i cant do anything with it
[02:56] <dinesh> the only user it allows me to login in dinesh
[02:56] <dinesh> which is something i selected during install
 but i cant change the owner or login to root
[02:56] <cuznt> no log in as root
[02:56] <cuznt> you can do things as root inside
[02:56] <p_quarles> kevin_: okay, not familiar with that one, but a google search shows there are established OSS drivers
[02:57] <p_quarles> kevin_: what kind of interface?
[02:57] <DaSkreech> dinesh: sudo su
[02:57] <dinesh> ahh
[02:57] <dinesh> i will try sudo su
[02:57] <kevin_> p_quarles: Texas Instruments ACX 100 22Mbps Wireless Interface
[02:57] <p_quarles> sudo -i is a better idea
[02:57] <dinesh> thank you
[02:57] <p_quarles> kevin_: okay, but I'm trying to figure out how it connects to the computer
[02:58] <p_quarles> kevin_: you say "when I connect it"
[02:58] <ubuntu> !lock
[02:58] <p_quarles> kevin_: USB? PCI?
[02:58] <kevin_> p_quarles: it only happens when the card is inserted in the PCI slot
[02:59] <dinesh> yes i  am loged in as root..Thanks every one for the support..
[02:59] <dinesh> i am loving ubuntu,,
[02:59] <dinesh> :)
[02:59] <p_quarles> kevin_: are you able to test other PCI cards in that slot? that card in other PCI slots?
[02:59] <kevin_> p_quarles: this one works with others
[03:00] <p_quarles> kevin_: the card or the slot?
[03:00] <kevin_> p_quarles: card
[03:00] <kevin_> p_quarles: the other card i have doesn't work either
[03:00] <ubuntu> dinesh: give it time............ull hate itr
[03:01] <p_quarles> okay, so it still may be a faulty PCI slot, which is kind of beyond the support a software channel can offer; unfortunately, the fact that the kernel panic commences on inserting the card makes it hard to debug
[03:02] <dinesh> will see..: -)
[03:03] <ubuntu> mk
[03:03] <kevin_> p_quarles: any way to fix the kernel panic?
[03:03] <ubuntu> be sure and back up everything
[03:03] <ubuntu> in fact keep anything important off the partition u have ubuntu on
[03:04] <p_quarles> kevin_: without knowing what causes it? no
[03:04] <dinesh> you are scaring me..
[03:04] <dinesh> may be thats what i should do then
[03:04] <dinesh> : (
[03:04] <ubuntu> no need to be scared
[03:05] <ubuntu> linux is great...........but itll anger you from time to time
[03:05] <kevin_> p_quarles: i know it has something to do with the wireless cad
[03:05] <dsnaike> kevin I checked ubuntu wifi docs appears the acx 100 not supported but the the acx 111 is
[03:06] <p_quarles> kevin_: no you don't, because you can't rule out the PCI slot without further information
[03:06] <dsnaike> kevi try this link http://acx100.sourceforge.net/
[03:06] <kevin_> dsnaike: i already have those drivers installed
[03:08] <kevin_> p_quarles: the slot worked in windows a few hours ago. Im pretty sure its not the slot. almost possitive its software
[03:10] <dsnaike> kevin the author of the article I read that got the acx 111 working is here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx111?action=show&redirect=WifiDocs%2FDev
[03:11] <ert3> I need help with an oldD-Link laptop card (PCI) and Kubuntu is recognizing it, D-Link laptop card (PCI) and Kubuntu is recognizing it; and we are running a 128bit WEP key
[03:14] <kevin_> dsnaike: i really appreciate your help. right now i am trying to troubleshoot my kernel panic. tehn i will move on to fixing the wireless card
[03:16] <dsnaike> kevin sorry but based on your posting I would say the firmware for the card is wrong and causing the panic
[03:17] <kevin_> dsnaike: do you suggest reinstalling the drivers?
[03:21] <dsnaike> kevin not yet during the install did you run any commands like gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/options or kate/kwrite
[03:22] <kevin_> no
[03:24] <dsnaike> kevin the link I gave will give you an idea of how to proceed sometimes you have to tell linux any distro what to do
[03:25] <dsnaike> just read the the page on how he did it and you'll get it
[03:26] <kevin_> dsnaike: thanks for the help im looking over it now
[03:30] <kevin_> dsnaike: im really confused on telling linux what to do part. what do u mean?
[03:33] <Makuseru> !.m4a
[03:33] <mrunagi> i cant seem to activate the restricted drivers on my pc any ideas?
[03:37] <nathan_> anyone know how to auto hide the taskbar at the bottom of the screen?
[03:39] <ubunturos> nathan_: Right Click -> Configure Panel -> Hiding -> Hide automatically after x seconds
[03:39] <ubunturos> aah... KDE 3.5.x ... should be similar for KDE 4
[03:40] <nathan_> ubuntui have kde4 and its not there when i right click
[03:48] <nathan_> does anyone know how to autohide taskbar in kde4?
[03:49] <anika> nathan_: its in KDE 4.2
[03:50] <nathan_> anika: yes sry
[03:52] <nathan_> does anyone know how to autohide taskbar in kde4.2?
[03:54] <JontheEchidna> nathan_: hit the plasma icon on the right of the panel -> more options
[03:54] <JontheEchidna> *more settings actually
[03:55] <nathan_> JontheEchidna: just accidentily removed the whol thing is there a way to get it back
[03:56] <ubunturos> nathan_: http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/10/24/kde-4-hiding-of-task-bar-is-now-part-of-opensuse-111/ - should help you too
[03:56] <JontheEchidna> nathan_: right click -> add new panel. Then you can drag all the applets you want from the widgets list
[03:58] <anika> nathan_: Click the cashew at the end then click more settings
[03:59] <anika> nathan_: Right click the desktop and add panel
[04:00] <nathan_> JontheEchidna: k got the panel back now were is the plasma icon?
[04:00] <JontheEchidna> should be on the far right of the panel
[04:00] <anika> nathan_: at the far end of the panel
[04:01] <nathan_> anika: no all of my icons were deleted too!
[04:02] <anika> nathan_: Which icons?
[04:02] <anika> nathan_: You mean you have a naked panel?
[04:02] <nathan_> anika: all the ones in my taskbar
[04:03] <anika> nathan_: You mean panel :)
[04:03] <nathan_> anika: yes
[04:03] <anika> When you click the panel menu do you see add widgets?
[04:03] <nathan_> anika: yes
[04:04] <anika> ok add these in this order
[04:05] <anika> Application launcher, quick access , task manager, pager, show desktop, system tray, device manager, digital clock,  trash
[04:05] <anika> That will be the same as default
[04:06] <anika> while you are there more settings -> auto hide
[04:11] <tylor_> i have a question
[04:12] <tylor_> i am wanting to change distros and i dont have have an external hard drive to back up my data is there any way to import it in to the next distro without re partitioning and copying the data over?
[04:15] <nathan_> anika:  it will not let me add all that stuff?
[04:16] <somekool> hi there, I want to upgrade my kubuntu to 8.10 to be able to run kde4.2 but when I go in "software sources" under the update tab, there is no dropdown about release upgrade like the screenshot shows at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[04:16] <tylor_> are you running 8.04
[04:18] <anika> tylor_: Do you have a /home partition?
[04:18] <somekool> ok, I did kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel"
[04:18] <somekool> it seems to work
[04:18] <anika> nathan_: Is that a question?
[04:18] <somekool> yes, I am on 8.04
[04:19] <tylor_> yes
[04:20] <tylor_> somekool it doesnt auto upgrade because 8.04 is lts (long term service) so companies running 8.04 wont see the upgrade
[04:25] <tylor_> anika i do not have a /home partition just the folder in the filesystem
[04:26] <anika> tylor_: Then back that up
[04:27] <anika> if you want wider settings as well you can back up /etc but never use that as a whole sale restore
[04:28] <tylor_> i do not have an external hard drive to back it up to, is there any way to do it without using another drive.
[04:28] <nathan_> anika: really just want to know how to autohide the taskbar
[04:29] <tylor_> i  want to change to Mandriva 2009, it imports Windows files from the LiveCD if i import my files to the root folder while running the LiveCD will it save it when i install to hard drive?
[04:29] <tylor_> anika are you on kde 4
[04:30] <anika> nathan_: the menu button -> more settings -> Auto hide
[04:33] <anika> tylor_: yes
[04:33] <nathan_> anika: were is the menu button?
[04:33] <tylor_> far right you have to have the widgets unlocked
[04:33] <anika> nathan_: Far right
[04:34] <nathan_> it look like a cashew?
[04:35] <Dragnslcr> Yeah
[04:35] <Dragnslcr> I don't think anyone ever figured out why
[04:36] <nathan_> anika: does hte menu button look like a cashew?
[04:38] <anika> nathan_: yes
[04:38] <punk> hello
[04:38] <anika> Dragnslcr: It's supposed to be a paint palete
[04:39] <punk> somebody from barcelona?
[04:39] <Dragnslcr> I see...
[04:39] <nathan_> when i click on it it does not give me a more settings option just says add widgets?
[04:39] <OxDeadC0de> The cashew tastes good, it tastes better in 4.2
[04:40] <anika> punk: maybe is it important?
[04:40] <OxDeadC0de> click around nathan_
[04:40] <punk> for talk in catalan or spanish
[04:41] <nathan_> OxDeadC0de: been cliccking around for an hour allready!
[04:41] <anika> !es
[04:42] <OxDeadC0de> nathan_ sorry I went to play some vice city :P, lost track of what's going on, so what's the deal now? ^^
[04:42] <OxDeadC0de> oh I see, autohide taskbar?
[04:42] <punk> thanks
[04:42] <OxDeadC0de> cashew/more settings/autohide, only available in 4.2beta2
[04:42] <nathan_> OxDeadC0de: yeah i do not see the option anywere to do this?
[04:43] <OxDeadC0de> you're probably not in 4.2beta2
[04:43] <OxDeadC0de> don't worry 4.2 full will be out next month, prob about midway through after another beta..
[04:44] <nathan_> OxDeadC0de: no clue just burned the iso 8.10 tonight and booted up
[04:44] <OxDeadC0de> nathan_ then you're in 4.1.2, crappy buggy version I think most will agree
[04:45] <nathan_> OxDeadC0de: oh great firt time kde user and got the wrong one lol
[04:45] <OxDeadC0de> nathan_ no you got the right one, 4.2 was a few months to late (is) for 8.10 though, which is the latest releas
[04:45] <OxDeadC0de> release*
[04:46] <OxDeadC0de> read the topic to get 4.2beta2 - but remember it's beta
[04:46] <anika> OxDeadC0de: It's not poout yet :-P
[04:46] <anika> out
[04:46] <OxDeadC0de> that's why I said it's to late for 8.10
[04:47] <nathan_> OxDeadC0de: so you are saying there isnt an autohide feature on my version?
[04:47] <anika> nathan_: No check the topic for kde 4.2
[04:47] <OxDeadC0de> nathan_ that's what I'm saying, if you want a good version though with less bugs (but still a few..) read the topic on how to update to it, i hope you don't have dial-up
[04:51] <mio> hi
[04:53] <NetSkier> OxDeadC0de, is KDE 4.1.3 also crappy?
[05:03] <anika> NetSkier: For some people
[05:07] <OxDeadC0de> NetSkier my opinion, yes, 4.2 is what 4.0 should have been
[05:08] <OxDeadC0de> can't wait to see where it will go next, what 4.3 will be like
[05:10] <OxDeadC0de> will be I mean, 4.2b2 is already excellent, and they've gotten rid of so many bugs since the b2 release I'm thinking about installing nightly tomorrow
[05:12] <OxDeadC0de> and the new weather widget is supposed to be working and bug-free - though missing some icons that will be made by the oxygen team eventually
[05:13] <OxDeadC0de> but it needs the latest version of kde to compile. even newer than the b2 release.
[05:22] <anika> OxDeadC0de: version 1.0 ?
[05:23] <OxDeadC0de> anika?
[05:27] <anika> Yes?
[05:27] <anika> The Weather station plasmoid should be 1.0
[05:28] <cuznt> there is a lancelot launcher that does not work yet either
[05:28] <NetSkier> Based on the good reviews, I just attempted to upgrade to KDE 4.2, but everything still looks like 4.1.3.  How can I tell whether the upgrade was successful?
[05:28] <OxDeadC0de> oh yeah ^^
[05:29] <OxDeadC0de> my lancelot launcher works :O, where doesn't yours cuznt?
[05:29] <Salze_> NetSkier: Look at the info pages in the help menu.
[05:29] <NetSkier> dpkg -l is showing mostly 4.1.3 things, and only a few 4.1.85-ppa1 pkgs.
[05:29] <cuznt> hrmmm
[05:29] <Salze_> NetSkier: Then you haven't updated successfully.
[05:30] <NetSkier> Salze_, yes, just confirmed with your suggestion.
[05:31] <cuznt> it states it could not find the launcher
[05:31] <anika> cuznt: What is wrong with lancelot?
[05:32] <alonea> I have no idea what happened, but I think my wifi drivers borked. My wireless card was working fine, but when I logged in today, the light wont turn blue and knetworkmanager doesn't see it.
[05:32] <alonea> The card works fine in my other os's
[05:32] <cuznt> in fact most of my applets listed are missing
[05:32] <cuznt> say component not found
[05:32] <anika> hi alonea :)
[05:33] <alonea> anika: hey
[05:33] <alonea> anika: wireless card doesn't work for me anymore and I haven't done anything i don't think.
[05:33] <anika> cuznt: install kdeplasma-addons
[05:33] <anika> and plasmoid-quickaccess
[05:34] <alonea> anika: I did update to intrepid, but it worked after that as well. Lemme find what card I got.
[05:34] <alonea> Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[05:35] <anika> Ugh
[05:35] <anika> !broadcom
[05:35] <alonea> yeah...
[05:35] <alonea> but the crazy thing for me is, its  been perfectly fine for over a month.
[05:35] <OxDeadC0de> cuznt sudo apt-get install kdeplasma-addons
[05:35] <anika> andplasmoid=quickaccess
[05:36] <OxDeadC0de> alonea I have the exact same wifi card, using it now, I use ndiswrapper tho
[05:36] <alonea> OxDeadC0de: I haven't needed ndiswrapper at all. it worked out of the box. I used to use that on an old laptop though
[05:37] <alonea> OxDeadC0de: I am very confused as to what has gone wrong
[05:37] <cuznt>  Depends: libplasma2 but it is not going to be installed
[05:37] <OxDeadC0de> alonea for me ndis is better, keeps the speed at a more stable level with all the interference I get, less switching is better overall performance for streaming audio
[05:37] <alonea> OxDeadC0de: *shrugs* didn't have any problems till now.
[05:38] <cuznt> plasmoid-lancelot:   Depends: libplasma2 but it is not going to be installed
[05:38] <alonea> anika: that page is outdated. no articles for intrepid, which seems to me so far is way different than hardy
[05:38] <anika> cuznt: What version of KDE are you using?
[05:38] <anika> alonea: not on the driver level
[05:38] <OxDeadC0de> ya you have to remove the old plasmoid packages
[05:38] <cuznt> beta
[05:38] <alonea> anika: ya know, let me see if those drivers under hardware will work
[05:39] <OxDeadC0de> they're all included now in the one package that relies on libplasma3
[05:39] <cuznt> 4.2.x
[05:39] <alonea> anika: they were not installed before, but I can try them.
[05:39] <OxDeadC0de> cuznt apt-get autoremove
[05:39] <alonea> anika: or not...its not listed anymore.
[05:39] <cuznt> says i have to get ridof superkaramba
[05:40] <cuznt> and stuff
[05:41] <Lillymon> Can someone please help me? aRts has gone insane. I've got "/usr/bin/artsd" listed at least 30 times in htop and my system is slowing down accordingly. How the hell do I stop it?
[05:42] <OxDeadC0de> lillymon killall artsd
[05:42] <alonea> ya know, there have been tons of kernel updates lately. Maybe that broke it.
[05:42] <p_quarles> Lillymon: the fact that a process has multiple PIDs doesn't mean it's behaving incorrectly
[05:42] <p_quarles> Lillymon: but, of course, htop includes a rich kill function
[05:43] <Lillymon> First thing I tried, no impact. There probably about 100 now, this can't possibly be normal, my PC almost ground to a complete halt once already.
[05:43] <cuznt>   Could not resolve 'ppa.launchpad.net'
[05:43] <Lillymon> There was an error message when I started about KNotify crashing when KDE last started. I selected to disable aRts output, but it doesn't seem to have paid any attention.
[05:44] <p_quarles> hmm -- yeah, that doesn't sound so normal -- is this a one time thing or has it happened several times?
[05:44] <cuznt> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid/main kdeplasma-addons 4:4.1.85-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1
[05:44] <alonea> also, touchpad is still kinda crazy in intrepid. its mildly better, but still funky.
[05:44] <Lillymon> I recently killed off a broken OSS install and installed the latest development version of OSS 4.1. Sound works fine, but this started immediately after.
[05:45] <p_quarles> Lillymon: ALSA doesn't work with your sound card?
[05:45] <Lillymon> Sound Blaster X-Fi. I hope it will work in Jaunty, if ALSA is updated before then.
[05:46] <Lillymon> I'm currently on Hardy.
[05:46] <p_quarles> sounds like a mess, Lillymon
[05:46] <alonea> brb...
[05:47] <Lillymon> They all say "/usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -a toss -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f"
[05:47] <guimel> hola
[05:48] <anika> !info b43-fwcutter
[05:48] <guimel> cabextract
[05:49] <Lillymon> Everything except KDE system sounds seem to be working. I'd be more than happy to kill of aRts entirely if that's all I was losing.
[05:49] <guimel> hi!
[05:49] <p_quarles> !hello | guimel
[05:49] <guimel> thanks
[05:50] <guimel> Are you speak spanish???
[05:50] <p_quarles> !es | guimel
[05:50] <guimel> thanks
[05:51] <Lillymon> killall doesn't appear to make the slightest bit of difference.
[05:51] <alonea> anika: yup. it was a bad update. There was a newer one that i put on, restarted. Works now.
[05:51] <Salze_> Lillymon: did you sudo killall?
[05:51] <Lillymon> Yep.
[05:51] <Salze_> Have you tried to disable the sound system in the system settings?
[05:51] <guimel> thanks bye
[05:52] <alonea> anika: linux-resticted-modules I think
[05:52] <OxDeadC0de> anyone here use kde-nightly?
[05:52] <Lillymon> How do I actually do that?
[05:53] <Salze_> Which version of kde?
[05:53] <Lillymon> Any change there results in "Starting sound system." until I hit cancel, it never completes.
[05:53] <Lillymon> KDE3.
[05:54] <Salze_> System Settings -> Sound system (or anything sounding like that - I don't know the exact wording).
[05:54] <Lillymon> Even 'No Audio Input/Output' results in the system perpetually trying to start the sound system.
[05:54] <Salze_> Did you reboot?
[05:55] <Lillymon> I'll have to try that next.
[05:56] <Lillymon> Frankly though, aRts seems to be superfluous. Nothing I do in the sound settings actually impacts any applications. Can I just REMOVE arts entirely?
[05:56] <Salze_> I don't think so - but I'm no expert on that.
[05:57] <korn> Hello, I would like to ask how we can test whether the speakers are working properly in Kubuntu?
[05:58] <Lillymon> Well if I can, I want to. I've had a Core 2 Duo booted for about an hour and it's crawling just trying to DISPLAY Firefox. This is not normal or acceptable.
[05:58] <korn> and whether there are any rpm's to install
[05:58] <korn> to enable the speakers
[05:58] <korn> thanks in advance
[06:00] <anika> korn: KDE 3 or KDE 4?
[06:00] <alonea> korn: as far as I know, kubuntu doesn't use rpm, though it can do deb installers. You could always play a song.
[06:01] <korn> anika: KDE 3.5.9
[06:01] <Salze_> korn: There is a button to test the sound in system settings -> sound system.
[06:01] <korn> unfortunately, no audio signal is being played by the speaker
[06:02] <anika> System settings -> Sound -> Test sound
[06:02] <korn> anika: thanks, I tried that, but don't receive any audio response
[06:02] <korn> does it give an audio response to that?
[06:02] <anika> yes
[06:03] <korn> Salze_, anika: is there any other way to restart the speakers, e.g. a detect speakers option?
[06:04] <anika> They used to work?
[06:04] <Salze_> korn: You can try different settings on that page - which soundsystem to use, etc.
[06:04] <korn> or a command to disable the speakers and restart them
[06:05] <korn> they didn't work with Ubuntu before, no, although, they did work through Windows, which I had earlier
[06:07] <korn> Salze_: thanks, I've tried the options under Sound System, but they don't restart the audio system
[06:07] <Lillymon> Right, restarted. No aRts as of yet, but the same error message. "During the previous startup, KNotify crashed while instatiating KNotify. Do you want to try again or disable aRts sound output?"
[06:07] <Salze_> korn: Maybe your soundcard is not supported. You could try google for information on that.
[06:08] <Lillymon> First time I selected to try again, the second I selected to disable aRts because of the problems I had with aRts going bonkers. BOTH times aRts dragged my system down.
[06:09] <Salze_> Did you reboot in between?
[06:09] <korn> The 'Test Sound' button does however, send audio output to external speakers, when they are connected
[06:09] <Lillymon> I've restarted now, I only restarted X the first time.
[06:10] <korn> Salze_: thanks, it might, however, not be a sound card issue
[06:11] <korn> to send audio output to built-in speakers?
[06:11] <Lillymon> OK, chose to disable aRts, and no aRts as of yet. I'm tentatively calling this solved, but I'm still tempted to just remove aRts. I'm getting sound now, so how important can it be?
[06:13] <Salze_> korn: I don't know that, sorry.
[06:15] <korn> Salze_: thank you, though
[06:15] <OxDeadC0de> hmm, anyone know how to get ruby bindings for plasma in kde4 nightly? ^^
[06:17] <NetSkier> I upgraded to KDE 4.2b2, and now I have only one desktop.  Right clicking on the leftmost icon at the bottom, gets me to Configure desktops, defaults, OK, returns me to ONE desktop, not the four defaults.  Any ideas how to fix this?
[06:17] <anika> NetSkier: Pager Settings
[06:18] <zeltak> morning :)
[06:19] <anika> NetSkier: No wait Configure Desktops then change the number at top
[06:19] <guiterb> morning
[06:19] <NetSkier> anika, that takes me to the same place as what I wrote about; same null results.
[06:19] <zeltak> hi :) does amyone use akondai at all? i was wondering if one can sync with it kontacts info between the main computer and laptop?
[06:19] <NetSkier> anika, that fails too.
[06:19] <Anastasia> What do I need to install to fix this kind of error trying to compile?: chopatscfile.c:28:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[06:20] <anika> NetSkier: What did you sit the number to?
[06:20] <NetSkier> anika, 8 one time, 2 another.
[06:20] <anika> NetSkier: Did you get to name the desktops ?
[06:21] <NetSkier> anasha, no, I wanted to see them first.
[06:21] <anika> NetSkier: did you see that option?
[06:21] <OxDeadC0de> netskier system settings/desktop/multiple desktops
[06:21] <stdin> Anastasia: build-essential
[06:22] <Anastasia> stdin: Thanks, would have thought that stuff would be installed with gcc, but :-).  Much appreciated.
[06:22] <NetSkier> anika, No.  I see Desktop Names, I can select the name, but not overtype it.
[06:23] <korn> Salze_: thanks, I managed to fix my issue
[06:23] <stdin> Anastasia: it's not technically "needed", but it should probably be a recommend
[06:25] <anika> NetSkier: try OxDeadC0de's suggestion
[06:25] <NetSkier> anika, I just did, and it failed.
[06:26] <NetSkier> anasha, and OxDeadC0de , all three of those suggestions seem to go to the same place, which does not work.
[06:27] <anika> NetSkier: you have sudo abilites ?
[06:27] <NetSkier> anasha, yes
[06:28] <anika> Though really you should not need them
[06:28] <OxDeadC0de> Hmm, I can't seem to find ruby plugins in kde-nightly... ><
[06:28] <NetSkier> anasha, right, I thought that I was configuring the desktops for my regular user.
[06:28] <OxDeadC0de> er, ruby bindings
[06:28] <NetSkier> anika, I am not sure what to try with sudo yet.
[06:36] <Anastasia> stdin: Yes, one would think.  That worked and I got what I needed compiled.  Working at getting the HD3000 card to work, might need it soon :-).  Again, *thanks*!
[06:37] <NetSkier> anika, Configure Desktop effects fails similarly, with a suggestion to check my X configuration.
[06:38] <anika> NetSkier: what is the suggestion ?
[06:39] <NetSkier> anika, just a sec.  I was trying to start a kconsole, and what I got I could not type into.  I need more desktops.
[06:41] <NetSkier> anika, "Check you X configuration.  You may also consider changing advanced options, especially changing the compositing type."  What is 'compositing type'?
[06:41] <NetSkier> s/you/your
[06:43] <anika> NetSkier: alt+shiift+12 butthat shouldn't do anything
[06:44] <anika> NetSkier: Screw this you want to do it the old way ?
[06:44] <NetSkier> anasha, sure
[06:45] <NetSkier> anika, sure.
[06:45] <anika> Edit ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc and edit the Desktops section
[06:54] <tony_> Anybody know if there is a way to install Mac software on Kubuntu ?  I'm interested in installing MS Office 2008 and figured the Mac version might be able to run on Linux without Wine...
[06:54] <tony_> I can't find any documentation online..
[07:06] <anika> tony_: Highly unlikely
[07:06] <OxDeadC0de> !paste
[07:07] <xp-killer> i cant get tru to read rmvb video format on my players i need help if there are more codecs plz
[07:07] <anika> tony_: Mac uses it's own API which it changes about every 4 years and far as I know no one has written a sandbox for it outside MAC OSX
[07:08] <anika> xp-killer: Install real player
[07:10] <zeltak>  hi, anybody using akondi yet?
[07:11] <OxDeadC0de> I have akondi installed and running but I have no idea what it does
[07:11] <OxDeadC0de> akonadi
[07:12] <zeltak> ahh ok gothca
[07:12] <zeltak> i was wondering wetaher anyone knew if its already usable
[07:12] <zeltak> as a sync program between computers for PIM data
[07:12] <p_quarles> akonadi is the database backend for Kontact, essentially
[07:12] <OxDeadC0de> o
[07:13] <zeltak> yupm and i saw it has a mysql server (i may be totaly wrong here) so i was wondering if i could swap pim data bertweem my main pc and laptop easly through akondai
[07:14] <Guest14877> how do i change my web browser?
[07:16] <guiterb> how to set the atftpd?
[07:16] <guiterb> who can help me?
[07:16] <jazman> cannon need linux drivwers
[07:17] <p_quarles> Guest14877: in Default Applications
[07:17] <p_quarles> guiterb: what is atftpd?
[07:19] <Guest14877> p_quarles: yeah im there right now but not sure how to change it?
[07:19] <p_quarles> Guest14877: what version of Kubuntu?
[07:19] <Guest14877> p_8.10
[07:20] <Guest14877> p_quarles: 8.10
[07:20] <guiterb> tftp server
[07:20] <p_quarles> Guest14877: then go to System Settings (from the main menu) and choose "Default Applications" - in there will be a Web Browser setting
[07:21] <Guest14877> p_quarles: yeah i see that but how do i change it?
[07:22] <p_quarles> Guest14877: you click on it, and type the name of the browser you want in the empty text box
[07:23] <Guest14877> p_ did that but it didnt seem to work
[07:23] <jazman> cannon need descent drivers cant get new scanner working using x sane in intrepid
[07:26] <ethias> hi
[07:28] <Guest14877> p_quarles: typed in http:www.google.com and then hit apply now what?
[07:29] <p_quarles> Guest14877: is your web browser called http:www.google.com?
[07:29] <Guest14877> p_quarles: no its konqurer
[07:30] <Guest14877> p_quarles: iwant google though
[07:30] <p_quarles> Guest14877: are you trying to change your home page? then why did you ask about changing your browser?
[07:30] <p_quarles> Guest14877: asking clear questions is an important part of getting help
[07:30] <gps23> why isn't katapult included in kubuntu 8.10?
[07:31] <Guest14877> p_quarles: my bad new to linux!
[07:32] <Guest14877> p_quarles:  so how do i change my homepage?
[07:32] <p_quarles> Guest14877: Konqueror doesn't do home pages the way other browsers do; you can save the URL as the startup page by going into settings and selecting "Save view profile 'web browsing'"
[07:33] <p_quarles> gps23: because it has krunner, which is better
[07:33] <jazman> just d/load fire fox or galeon browerser
[07:33] <gps23> p_quarles, but in the name of freedom there should be an option to switch to katapult
[07:34] <gps23> p_quarles, its not even in repos
[07:34] <p_quarles> gps23: yeah, you're free to compile it
[07:34] <JediatNight> Can anyone suggest a 3d game for ubuntu?
[07:34] <gps23> p_quarles, thats ok, i can
[07:35] <p_quarles> gps23: katapult is an app for KDE3 -- Kubuntu 8.10 doesn't use KDE3
[07:35] <gps23> p_quarles, hmm, i got, i should myself used to krunner now
[07:35] <Guest14877> p_quarles: settings or system settings?
[07:35] <gps23> :(
[07:36] <gps23> one more thing, i am unable to set shortcuts in my new kubuntu
[07:36] <OxDeadC0de> well nightly is kind of nice, but doesn't have ruby bindings and there's an issue with the lancelot menu resizing.. hmm
[07:36] <gps23> assigned a shortcut to konsole using menueditor, but its not working
[07:37] <peter_> god morning from DK
[07:38] <peter_> someone know how to connect a vista drive
[07:39] <jazman> does it auot here the drive
[07:40] <peter_> sorry i am new here idont know ist some mot ??
[07:41] <p_quarles> Guest14877: settings in Konqueror
[07:42] <peter_> i see the harddisk but cant not see the files
[07:42] <aleprof> hello, there is someone running vmware? I'm in troubles after update to 2.6.22.16 kernel version
[07:44] <Guest14877> p_quarles:  still trying to get it says malformed url
[07:46] <Guest14877> p_quarles: what do i do just rename the one that says web browsing?
[07:57] <Guest14877> how do i watch you tube videos on kubuntu?
[07:57] <Guest14877> p_quarles: thnx for your help got it to work
[08:02] <Guest14877> anyone know   how to watch youtube vids on kubuntu?
[08:03] <peter_> how can i see the files in a ntfs disk
[08:04] <kamal`> hello kubuntu! :)
[08:04]  * kamal` is using Intrepid Ibex with KDE 4.1.2
[08:05] <kamal`> i am just trying to find a way to assign shortcuts to launch apps in KDE 4.. no go so far :(
[08:06] <kamal`> can someone here please be kind to help with it? :)
[08:06] <kamal`> i had those set up in KDE 3.5.x earlier
[08:07] <White_Pelican> in 4.2 beta 2 for Intrepid, I seem to have lost my icon that says there are software updates available. How do I get that back?
[08:09] <kamal`> probably you gotta wait till more updates are available and it might pop up again :P
[08:09] <White_Pelican> I think I accidentally clicked it and said remove
[08:20] <missanthropic> okay i am about to sounds really stupid
[08:20] <missanthropic> what do i use this for?
[08:20] <missanthropic> i never used this IRC before
[08:21] <OxDeadC0de> you talk with people, ask questions, help people, get help
[08:21] <missanthropic> okay thats kinda what i was thinking
[08:22] <missanthropic> so if i have any problems with my ubuntu or anything i can get information from people using the same system
[08:22] <missanthropic> a lot easier than trying to find something online
[08:22] <OxDeadC0de> ya but google will still be your #1 friend
[08:22] <OxDeadC0de> this is #2
[08:22] <missanthropic> heh. right
[08:22] <missanthropic> always
[08:23] <missanthropic> okay cool
[08:23] <missanthropic> i am very new to this
[08:23] <missanthropic> i love ubuntu
[08:23] <gps23> how can i set shortcuts in kubuntu?
[08:23] <gps23> using kde4
[08:24] <OxDeadC0de> ok then, some useful info, please don't spam, use !pastebin for large posts, #kubuntu-offtopic for offtopic,
[08:24] <OxDeadC0de> !pastebin
[08:25] <missanthropic> ok
[08:25] <OxDeadC0de> gps23 what do you mean shortcuts, in a folder view or in the menu? if in the menu, right click, menu editor
[08:26] <OxDeadC0de> in a folder, make a link, you can probably do it through dolphin, if not, ln -s /path/to/real/file /path/to/where/I/want/it
[08:26] <gps23> OxDeadC0de, in the menu, i wanted to define a shortcut for konsole, i used menu edit to set it, but its not working
[08:29] <OxDeadC0de> gps123 I'm trying to test .. what version are you using ? straight off the iso no upgrades? 4.1.3? 4.2beta2?
[08:29] <gps23> its 4.1.2
[08:30] <OxDeadC0de> gps23: you clicked "new item" set the name to konsole, then the command to konsole, then clicked save right?
[08:30] <gps23> i tell u what i did, in menu edit, i went to utilities->konsole, there in second tab i set a shortcut for it, then i saved menuedit
[08:30] <gps23> but its not working
[08:30] <gps23> OxDeadC0de, sorry, its system->konsole
[08:32] <OxDeadC0de> gps23 and what's it say when you click the new item in the menu, is it even there?
[08:32] <gps23> OxDeadC0de, i didn't tried new item, because entry for konsole is already in system submenu
[08:33] <OxDeadC0de> gps23 and when you go to system and click on konsole what happens?
[08:33] <gps23> OxDeadC0de,  then on right side, there are two tabs General, and advanced
[08:34] <gps23> OxDeadC0de, in the advanced tab, there is a place to set shrotcut, labelled 'Current Shortcut Key'
[08:35] <OxDeadC0de> gpss23 I can't test right now, I'm saving a menuitem, .. when I clicked save it went to 100% once slowly, then reset to 0 and did it again, then again, now it's on it's 4th run... wth
[08:36] <missanthropic> ok thanks all bye
[08:36] <gps23> OxDeadC0de, no, don't do new menu item,  we don't want two konsoles in the menu
[08:36] <OxDeadC0de> I'll undo it when I can, but it's saving.. been saving for 5 minutes..
[08:37] <gps23> OxDeadC0de, kill menuedit
[08:37] <OxDeadC0de> clicking cancel was easier.. hah. ok
[08:37] <gps23> OxDeadC0de, trying new menu item
[08:37] <OxDeadC0de> sry
[08:37] <gps23> OxDeadC0de, i too added new menu item for test, its working fine here
[08:38] <gps23> now, try to assign shortcut to already existing konsole entry
[08:38] <gps23> OxDeadC0de,  konsole is under system submenu
[08:39] <OxDeadC0de> oh ok, I see now sorry took me a minute
[08:39] <OxDeadC0de> works for me
[08:39] <OxDeadC0de> but I'm in 4.2b2
[08:40] <gps23> OxDeadC0de, setting shortcut is fine, but its invoking the shortcut which is not working
[08:40] <OxDeadC0de> gps23 I see what you're saying, but I can't help, it works for me, but I'm using a newer version of kde
[08:41] <gps23> OxDeadC0de, no probs, thanks for help
[09:01] <furio> hola alguien tiene problemas con el netbeans 6.5 en ubuntu , a mi no me van los {} []
[09:03] <hyper_ch> !es | furio
[09:05] <furio> I have problems with the netbeans 6.5, I try to write {} or [] and its impossible but my keyboard outside of netbeans works good.
[09:08] <grassbaecker> hello everyone
[09:09] <grassbaecker> can somebody help me about xorg.conf
[09:11] <hyper_ch> furio: no clue about netbeans
[09:12] <hyper_ch> grassbaecker: you know, reading minds over the internet is a skill not many people posses... so it is advised to also tell what the actually question/problem is ;)
[09:13] <grassbaecker> i am seekind the server layout setion but since 8.10 there is no entry
[09:14] <hyper_ch> server layout section?
[09:14] <hyper_ch> the way x11 workschange a lot in 8.10 (or rather the new kernel)
[09:15] <grassbaecker> i need to add a entry for my touchsreen there
[09:36] <dragoun> slt
[09:52] <laurent_> hi there
[10:05] <dragoun__> slt
[10:12] <antonio_> ciao
[10:12] <antonio_> !list
[10:12] <black_> h67ei
[10:16] <krio> hi, there is somebody who want to help me?
[10:17] <krio> because konqueror it's working too slow
[10:17] <Mamarok> krio: what is slow exactly?
[10:18] <krio> mamarok hi
[10:18] <Atorvancas> Hi all how make the update in kubuntu version 6.10?
[10:18] <Mamarok> Atorvancas: do you want to upgrade to another version?
[10:18] <krio> i try to open a folder
[10:18] <Atorvancas> yes
[10:18] <krio> and i wait to time
[10:19] <Mamarok> krio: what version do you use?
[10:19] <krio> i have a 7.04 kubuntu and konqueror 3.5.6 i think
[10:19] <Mamarok> Atorvancas: you can upgrade from 6.10 to 8.04 directly, wait, I give you the link with the howto
[10:19] <Atorvancas> ok
[10:19] <Atorvancas> :)
[10:20] <Mamarok> Atorvancas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:21] <Mamarok> krio: what specs is your computer? CPU, RAM?
[10:21] <Atorvancas> -thx
[10:21] <krio> mamarok: then i try yo create a new folder and it spend more time then usually
[10:22] <krio> i use a pentium 3 996 mgherz and 256 mb of ram
[10:22] <Mamarok> krio: and that's the problem I'd say, you don't have much ram, try to close some apps
[10:23] <krio> mamarok: but before it work fine!!
[10:23] <Mamarok> krio: did you try to close some running apps?
[10:23] <krio> no apps open then klipper and kino and alsa
[10:24] <Mamarok> krio: if you have many running services it slows down your system
[10:24] <Mamarok> krio: start top in a console and check what else is running
[10:25] <krio> what command i have to do
[10:25] <Mamarok> krio: top
[10:25] <hyper_ch> krio: I prefer htop
[10:25] <hyper_ch> krio: but you'll have to isntall it first
[10:25] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: htop is not installed by default!
[10:25] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: not in *buntu
[10:26] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: I do prefer it too, but that's still an additional step
[10:27] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: but it's worth it
[10:27] <hyper_ch> ncurses is much nicer
[10:27] <hyper_ch> colors
[10:27] <hyper_ch> tree view
[10:28] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: that's not the point, trying to check what slows down his system
[10:28] <hyper_ch> ok :)
[10:29] <krio> mamarok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/93676/
[10:29] <Mamarok> krio: kino is huge btw, that will certainly slow down your system
[10:30] <Mamarok> krio: also, this makes you use gnome libs in kde, another overflow
[10:31] <krio> mamarok: what i have to do?
[10:31] <Mamarok> close kino and try again
[10:32] <krio> mamarok but i do not see the icon of kino and i have not open it
[10:32] <krio> mamarok now i try to open and then closed
[10:33] <Mamarok> krio: no, that's of no use :)
[10:33] <krio> so what i have to close?
[10:34] <krio> sorry mamarok so what i have to do to close it?
[10:34] <Mamarok> from your top utput it seems your kded is running wild, try to log out and start kde again, might do the trick
[10:34] <Mamarok> kinobut first, be aware that you have little ressources, so if your system runs slow its no wonder
[10:34] <Mamarok> krio: ^^
[10:36] <krio> yes i know but i use this system and thisconfiguration from september and i do not see the system so slow
[10:36] <krio> the one difference is that i have installed pppoeconf to use directly a adsl conection
[10:37] <Mamarok> krio: well, it sometimes happens when you run for a certain time, consider investing into some additional ram
[10:37] <Mamarok> ram is cheap nowadays, so this is always a good investment
[10:39] <krio> perhaps i have understan what happens, apart the problem whit the less memory
[10:40] <krio> now i want to unistall kino and then i 'll made you know
[10:40] <krio> mamarock: sorry for my incomprensible englush
[10:42] <Mamarok> krio: you don't have to uninstall things
[10:42] <krio> mamarock it's too late :-)))
[10:42] <Mamarok> krio: if you need help in your mothertongue, consider this:
[10:42] <Mamarok> !it | krio
[10:43] <Mamarok> sometimes helpful
[10:43] <krio> yes i know and i will try
[10:43] <Mamarok> but of course I don't mind your English :)
[10:44] <krio> one to ten how much easy understand me
[10:45] <Mamarok> krio: I understand enough, don't worry :)
[10:47] <krio> mamarock: thank for your good manner, but the nose is coming out my video :-))
[10:48] <krio> mamarock : pinocchio don't say you nothing ;-))
[10:48] <Mamarok> krio: did you ever try the tab completion to write nicks?
[10:49] <Mamarok> krio: begin to type the name of someone and hit the tabulator button, it will complete automagically
[10:50] <Mamarok> krio: non e una bugia, ti capsico bene :)
[10:50] <hyper_ch> !it | Mamarok
[10:50] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: :)
[10:52] <hyper_ch> how comes you know Italian?
[10:52] <dr_willis> Liguini! Fettichini!
[10:52] <dr_willis> :)
[10:52] <dr_willis> thats about all i know on it.
[10:52] <hyper_ch> dr_willis: and pasta and pizza
[10:52] <hyper_ch> dr_willis: and spaghetti
[10:52] <hyper_ch> dr_willis: and lasagne
[10:53] <hyper_ch> isn't it: fettucini?
[10:53]  * dr_willis has no idea
[10:53] <dr_willis> *ini :)
[10:53] <dr_willis> If it has an I on the end.. its Italian
[10:54] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: well, I'm Swiss
[10:54] <Mamarok> back to topic, folks :)
[10:54] <dr_willis> The Topic is : the Lack of a Topic.
[10:55] <dr_willis> :)
[10:55] <Mamarok> dr_willis: topi is: Support!
[10:55] <krio> c'mon guys___  fettuccine and pizza and pasta make the worl a better place.
[10:56] <Mamarok> krio: +1
[10:56]  * hyper_ch likes self-made Gnocchi very much
[10:57] <hyper_ch> the ones you can buy from a store are not nearly as good
[10:57] <Mamarok> !ot | hyper_ch, dr_willis, krio
[10:59] <marcin105p> i need help my button menu on botom panel is on the right side how change him to left???
[11:00] <hang3r> is there any equivalent to a mythtv client for KDE, I cant stand mythtv it gives me the shits
[11:01] <jhunold> does anýone know how to re-enable the "thread-view" in kmail shipping with KDE-4.2 beta 2 ? I've only got the new fancy "date-sorted" view...
[11:01] <krio> Mamarok: i hava'nt see no improvements, unistalling kino
[11:01] <dr_willis> marcin105p,  use that little cashew button to 'unlock' the panel and move things around
[11:02] <marcin105p> dr_willis: thx it work
[11:02] <krio> Mamarok: but until two day's ago synstem work propely
[11:02] <Mamarok> hang3r: try kdetv, it's in the kde-apps.org
[11:02] <hang3r> Mamarok: thanks
[11:02] <Mamarok> krio: you don't have to uninstall things, it's enough closing them
[11:03] <Mamarok> krio: as you have little ram, sometimes the system runs wild, so you just close your kde, and log back in, that should do the trick
[11:04] <krio> mamarok: i try see you later
[11:05] <Mamarok> krio: just log off and back into kde again
[11:25] <hang3r> Mamarok, looks like kdetv has been abandoned, I can't get it to use my tv tuner, doesn't detect it from the looks of it
[11:25] <Mamarok> hang3r: yep, seen that too, sry
[11:26] <black_> what ??
[11:27] <dr_willis> I thought most of those apps just accessed the /dev/video0 stuff   but ive only used MythTV
[11:27] <Malic> hi! in kde 4.1.. where can i change options like scale and other desktop effects?
[11:28] <Mamarok> Malic: check the system settings -> desktop
[11:29] <Mamarok> Malic: but not all desktop effects are available in 4.1 yet
[11:29] <Malic> thank you very much! ..Mamorok
[11:30] <Guest53442> alguien conoce como se puede pasar de 8.04 -> 8.10 sin destrozar el sistema
[11:30] <Guest53442> ?
[11:30] <hang3r> dr_willis, thats what they should be doing. v4l-info displays my tuner card and its capabilities, however kdetv doesn't seem to pick the card up
[11:30] <zeltak> hi
[11:30] <hyper_ch> !es | Guest53442
[11:31] <zeltak> any one know how to change the multimedia OSD vol+ and vol - to use the master volume rather then pcm in kubuntu?
[11:31] <hang3r> I actually wouldn't mind getting kdetv to work, it looks like a good little app that for whatever reason was abandoned
[11:31] <hang3r> And by work I mean re-opening the project
[11:32] <Mamarok> hang3r: from the comments on kde-apps.org, it seems someone has already ported it to kde 4, but maybe it changed its name
[11:33] <hang3r> the problem is they don't mention what "name" and Ive search pretty hard for tv related software for kde and cant find much of anything
[11:34] <Mamarok> did you search in kde-apps.org?
[11:34] <Malic> another question: I want to upgade my laptop to Version 8.10. The manager says that i am using the AMD fglrx driver and that no version of this driver is available that works with my hardware in Ubuntu 8.10. Can i continue?
[11:35] <Malic> i use an ati mobility radeon 9700
[11:35] <hang3r> yes
[11:35] <m__> what are the steps for setting a repository in svn
[11:35] <hang3r> Mamarok: yes I have searched kde-apps.org
[11:36] <m__> i ve svn installed . i want to start using it . are there any steps . simple to follow
[11:36] <Mamarok> hang3r: don't know if kplayer might help you, never used it
[11:36] <Mamarok> m__: it has a build in help
[11:37] <m__> Mamarok thanks . but i want the basic steps
[11:37] <hang3r> Mamarok: Looks like they support it to some extent, I'll give it a shot. I'm still quite happy to continue where they left off with kdetv
[11:38] <m__> i ve already used the svnadmin create command
[11:38] <Mamarok> m__: there also is an extensive help on the website
[11:39] <Mamarok> m__: check here: http.//subversion.tigris.org
[11:40] <m__> ok i am checking it .
[11:45] <krio> Mamarok: i've close pppoeconf and everything is goes well
[11:45] <Mamarok> krio: hm, as I said then
[11:46] <krio> Mamarok: infact now i 'have the same problem
[11:46] <krio> Mamarok: so i'll try to find more ram
[11:46] <Mamarok> krio: well, yes, as you have to run ppoeconf to connect to your adsl
[11:47] <Mamarok> krio: this is certainly the best (and cheapest) option
[11:48] <krio> Mamarok: ok now i have to go my child are hungry and i have to prepare something to eat
[11:49] <krio> before that they eat me
[11:49] <Mamarok> :)
[11:49] <krio> see you
[11:49] <Mamarok> krio: have fun :)
[11:49] <krio> Mamarok: ok
[12:04] <Mamarok> bbl, cu folks
[12:34] <Malic> hi! i cant find the package xserver-xorg-video-radeon. There is only the package xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd available. Where could be the problem?
[12:35] <urvashi> hi everybody iam gaurav from india!!
[12:36] <hyper_ch> hi urvashi
[12:40] <ubuntu_> Hello.
[12:40] <VegaObscura> Anyone awake?
[12:41] <hyper_ch> no
[12:41] <hyper_ch> we're all sleeping
[12:41] <Mamarok> VegaObscura: this is a support channel, just ask your question
[12:41] <VegaObscura> Sorry.
[12:41] <VegaObscura> So I installed Ubuntu a while back
[12:41] <VegaObscura> Then I installed windows.
[12:41] <VegaObscura> And now my comp boots up windows by default, without ever going to grub
[12:41] <VegaObscura> Can I fix this without reinstalling ubuntu?
[12:42] <hyper_ch> VegaObscura: reinstall grub
[12:42] <Mamarok> !grub | VegaObscura
[12:42] <VegaObscura> How do I do that?
[12:42] <VegaObscura> Oh, thanks.
[12:42] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: no, no need to reinstall!
[12:42] <Mamarok> *gosh*
[12:42] <hang3r> I've only just noticed, but the default trash can icon looks like it has a penis on it
[12:42] <hang3r> haha
[12:43] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: it's simplest :)
[12:43] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: actually it's a reinstallation of grub
[12:43] <hyper_ch> (in the boot sector)
[12:43] <hang3r> I'm never going to think of the trashcan the same way again
[12:43] <hang3r> :(
[12:44] <hyper_ch> hang3r: it only looks like it if you have a dirty mind
[12:44] <hang3r> hyper_ch: I must have a dirty mind then i guess *sigh*
[12:45] <hyper_ch> hang3r: or your subconcious is trying to tell you something
[12:45] <hang3r> hyper_ch: I think you're looking into it a bit too much
[12:46] <hyper_ch> hang3r: don't know :)
[12:47] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: you are Swiss, aren't you?
[12:48] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: so I am
[12:48] <Mamarok> part of the Swiss Team?
[12:48] <hyper_ch> nope
[12:48] <Mamarok> why not?
[12:48] <hyper_ch> why should I?
[12:49] <Mamarok> because there's a lot of work in Switzerland for Free Software :)
[12:49] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: ??? and you want to say with that?
[12:50] <Mamarok> that was an invitation for you to join the team :)
[12:50] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: what do I want in there?
[12:50] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: give it a try, it's fun
[12:51] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: why?
[12:51] <flavia> hi, is knetworkmanager the way to get a wireless connection going on kubuntu?
[12:52] <hyper_ch> flavia: sort of
[12:54] <m__> hello i am using rapidsvn . i ve set bookmark repository .  i ve even checked out a new working copy . but cant add project
[12:55] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: would be nice to have all active Swiss ubunteros in the team
[12:55] <Mamarok> m__: did you read the doc I gave you?
[12:55] <m__> :) yes . but i simply need to start working. can t read the entire thing
[12:55] <hyper_ch> I'm not active... I just spam ubuntuforums.org with a lot of comments and run my own little blog and maybe you know http://repogen.simplylinux.ch
[12:56] <Mamarok> m__: do you have permissions for the server?
[12:56] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: no, didn't know it, but how could I? It's not advertised as being a Swiss blog
[12:57] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwissTeam
[12:57] <hyper_ch> simplylinux is more of a reminder for myself :)
[12:57] <m__> sudo allows you superuser . ive run sudo rapidsvn
[12:57] <hyper_ch> I'm not even an ubuntu member ;)
[12:57] <Bart79> hi all, ANYone familiar with Kopete?
[12:57] <Mamarok> m__: you need to have permissions on the svn server
[12:57] <hyper_ch> !anyone | Bart79
[12:57] <m__> ok i would check that again
[12:58] <Mamarok> m__: else, check with your svn server admins
[12:58] <flavia> hyper_ch: just using knetworkmanager doesnt seem to work, is there any other tool?
[12:58] <m__> ok
[12:58] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: no need to be a member
[12:59] <Bart79> kopete specialists here..??
[12:59] <hyper_ch> flavia: I'd guess the problem is with the wifi card itself
[12:59] <hyper_ch> !anyone | Bart79
[12:59] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: nah, I just don't like to be part of a "team"...
[12:59] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: ok
[12:59] <hyper_ch> flavia: what wifi card have you got?
[13:00] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: but you are free to put repogen on the swiss team blog ;)
[13:00] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: nope, you have to do this yourself
[13:00] <hyper_ch> Bart79: don't get into a query
[13:00] <hyper_ch> Bart79: and then apologize for it
[13:01] <hyper_ch> Bart79: if you would be truly sorry, then you wouldn't even start a query
[13:01] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: oh well... then it won't be put on there
[13:01] <hyper_ch> Bart79: once more and you're on my ignore list
[13:02] <Mamarok> Bart79: behave!
[13:02] <Mamarok> Bart79: ask your questions in this channel only please!
[13:02] <Bart79> sorry guys, first time
[13:02] <Bart79> :-(
[13:04] <Bart79> anyone available for troubleshooting on Kopete?
[13:05] <hyper_ch> !question | Bart79
[13:05] <flavia> hyper_ch: atheros 802.11 seems indeed to be a hard card to get working... I am reading about it on the forums
[13:06] <hyper_ch> flavia: probably you'll need to use the ndiswrapper
[13:06] <Bart79> My webcam works in Kopete, but I can't activate my webcam during a chat nor can I request to open the cam of the other person
[13:06] <Tm_T> Bart79: with what protocol?
[13:06] <Bart79> WLM
[13:07] <Bart79> It seems like I'm missing some buttons in the chatwindow (I guess)
[13:12] <hyper_ch> Bart79: probably you get better respons at #kopete
[13:25] <ssssssssssssssss> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ
[13:44] <Guest61528> how do i add repositories ?
[13:46] <Mamarok> afk
[13:46] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: edit the sources.list file
[13:46] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: or there's a tool to edit the repos graphically
[13:47] <hang3r> Guest61528: K menu->Applications->Settings->Software Sources
[13:47] <Guest61528> hyper_ch: i  am new to kubuntu not sure how to do so?
[13:47] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: what repos do are you looking for?
[13:47] <Guest61528> hyper_ch: i want to add one
[13:48] <hang3r> Guest61528: Then goto Third Party Repos and add it in there
[13:48] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: do as hang3r said or manually add it to /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:48] <hang3r> err, actually its Third-Party Software
[13:49] <Guest61528> hyper_ch: and where would i find that in kubuntu?
[13:49] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: that's the file path
[13:49] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: open a terminal
[13:49] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: enter:   sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:49] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: add the new repositor
[13:50] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: press ctrl-x (to exit nano) and you'll be prompted to save the file
[13:53] <Guest61528> hyper_ch: command not found
[13:54] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: you're not using kubuntu?
[13:54] <Guest61528> hyper_ch: yes i am
[13:55] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: copy'n'paste what you have written into the terminal
[13:55] <Guest61528> hyper_ch: sudo nano/etc/apt/sources.list
[13:56] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: there's a space between nano and /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:56] <Guest61528> ah
[13:56] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: sudo --> run the following command with superuser rights
[13:56] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: nano --> a command line text editor
[13:56] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: /etc/apt/sources.list --> path to the file that shall be edited
[13:58] <badzero> oh ja geht gut diese kde 4
[13:59] <Tm_T> ok
[13:59] <Guest61528> hyper_ch: ok  got it up now how  do i add repo?
[14:00] <hyper_ch> !de | badzero
[14:00] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: just add a new line there
[14:00] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: maybe my generator helps you a bit: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch
[14:00] <Guest61528> hyper_ch: at the very bottom?
[14:00] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: yes
[14:00] <badzero> asoo hab geglaubt ich bin in kubuntu-de sory
[14:00] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: what is the line that you are told to add?
[14:00] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: it should begin with:   deb http://....
[14:01] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: or  dep-src http://.....
[14:01] <hyper_ch> deb-src of course and not dep-src ^^
[14:02] <Guest61528> hyper_ch: deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt etch main #WineHQ - Debian 4.0 "Etch"
[14:03] <Guest61528> hyper_ch:  i think this what i need to add
[14:03] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: that would be for Debian Etch
[14:03] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: not for Ubuntu
[14:03] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: what ubuntu version are you using?
[14:03] <Guest61528> hyper_ch:  so ubuntu and kubuntu are the same?
[14:04] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: for repos they are
[14:04] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: the base system is the same
[14:04] <Guest61528> hyper_ch:  im using kubuntu 8.10
[14:04] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: they juse use different default programs and settings
[14:04] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: add this then:   deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt intrepid main
[14:04] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: and in the terminal run then this command (best to copy'n'paste it):      wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[14:05] <Guest61528> hy still mot sure how to add it?
[14:05] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: just add this line at the end of that file
[14:05] <lexer> вау
[14:05] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: use copy'n'paste
[14:06] <lexer> а кто по-русски говорит....
[14:06] <lexer> ????
[14:06] <hyper_ch> !ru | lexer
[14:07] <Guest61528> hyper_ch: now how do i exit repos?
[14:08] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: press:  ctrl-x
[14:08] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: that will leave nano
[14:08] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: and you will be asked if you want to save the file "y"
[14:08] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: and what the filename shall be "[enter ]"
[14:09] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: once you're done, run:   cat /etc/apt/soures.list   to see whether it was really added
[14:09] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: then run this command:  wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[14:09] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: (copy and paste it)
[14:09] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: and then you need to update the sources
[14:09] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: sudo apt-get update
[14:09] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: and then you can install wine from the newly added repos
[14:10] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: sudo apt-get install wine
[14:14] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: it works?
[14:16] <Guest61528> hyper_ch: still trying to add repo
[14:16] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: you have any problems somewhere?
[14:16] <Guest61528> hyper_ch:  isnt there an easier way?
[14:16] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: "easier" always depends
[14:17] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: "easier" means that you have a comparison of different methods and you have apply some metrics to rank the outcome for each
[14:17] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: so "easier" is just dependant on those metrics and there is no "absolut easier" way
[14:20] <Guest61528> hyper_ch: i added it to the list and now im confused
[14:21] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: confused about?
[14:21] <Guest61528> hyper_ch:  y it isnt working
[14:21] <tomus> I've been looking at KDE 4.2, and it looks like it might be ready for daily use... has anybody tried the beta?  How soon will 8.10 update to 4.2?
[14:22] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: I don't know what you did so far
[14:22] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: I don't know where yuo are
[14:22] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: the whole thing would not even take 1 minute
[14:22] <hyper_ch> tomus: 8.10 won't officialy go for 4.2
[14:22] <hyper_ch> tomus: but you can use the PPA repo
[14:23] <tomus> Sounds like I should skip 8.10 all together
[14:23] <hyper_ch> tomus: or use ppa repos like I do
[14:23] <tomus> When is a usable version of Kubuntu be released?
[14:24] <tdi_k> tomus: what's unusable in kde 4.1 ?
[14:24] <hyper_ch> tomus: usable depends pretty much on the metrics applied to measure it
[14:24] <tomus> hyper_ch: how well do the ppa repos work w/ other packages?
[14:24] <hyper_ch> tomus: works fine
[14:24] <hyper_ch> tomus: and I also can recommend the amarok neon project ;)
[14:25] <tomus> I'm looking for quailty and stablity, as well as some basic features, like being able to put the pannel on the side, rather than the bottom
[14:25] <hyper_ch> the amarok version in the official 8.10 repos lacks some basic things
[14:25] <hyper_ch> tomus: then you should use debian instead of ubuntu
[14:26] <tomus> debian?
[14:26] <hyper_ch> yes, debian
[14:26] <Guest61528> hyper_ch: i added the repo then when i check with cat to see if its there it says No such file or directory
[14:26] <cloud> 한글?
[14:27] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: what did you issue exactely?
[14:27] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: copy and paste the command you have used
[14:27] <tomus> it seems like most of the packages and info these days is for ubuntu distros
[14:27] <hyper_ch> !zn | cloud
[14:27] <hyper_ch> !jp | cloud
[14:27] <tomus> cloud: sorry, I don't know Korean, but I like Korea very much
[14:27] <Guest61528> hyper_ch:  cat: /etc/apt/soures.list
[14:28] <cloud> thanks!
[14:28] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: well, check again what command I have given you
[14:28] <hyper_ch> !kn | cloud
[14:28] <bazhang> !ko | cloud
[14:28] <bazhang> its ko
[14:28] <hyper_ch> :)
[14:29] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: when you are given commands, you can just copy and paste them....
[14:29] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: that way you will get correct spelling and stuff
[14:29] <tomus> hyper_ch: thanks for the tip, ~cheers
[14:29] <hyper_ch> tomus: debian is not so up-to-date as ubuntu but it is stable.... very stable
[14:30] <Guest61528> hyper_ch:  i rechecked and yes i did copy and paste
[14:30] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: no, you did not
[14:30] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: what you pasted here is not what I have given you
[14:31] <Guest61528> hyper_ch:  i know that is what it is telling me back
[14:31] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: I asked you what command you have entered
[14:32] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: and you have given me:  [15:28] <Guest61528> hyper_ch:  cat: /etc/apt/soures.list
[14:32] <Guest61528> hyper_ch:  cat /etc/apt/soures.list
[14:32] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: good... now I made a mistake.... it's:   sources   and not soures
[14:33] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:33] <Guest61528> hyper_ch:  it showed up that time
[14:34] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: good
[14:34] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: now import the gpg keys by issuing:    wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[14:36] <Guest61528> hyper_ch:  its working so far
[14:37] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: now update the list:   sudo apt-get update
[14:37] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: and then install the new wine:  sudo apt-get install wine
[14:39] <corigo2> How do I define the default media player for different file formats, e.g. AVI, WMV, etc. (I have multiple players installed)
[14:39] <Guest61528> hy thank you for you help it worked
[14:44] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: it works?
[14:44] <hyper_ch> j #kde
[14:46] <dr_willis> corigo2,  you can right click on a .avi  (or whatever) and set the default in the properties tabs I recall
[14:56] <Schuenemann> !info nfs-utils
[14:58] <eagles0513875> im having issues with vnc in intrepid and kde 4.2 beta 2 as well as 4.1.3
[14:59] <eagles0513875> when i vnc into my linux box with krfb it shows up but its like i have no control when i have it setup for full control once i type my password it also shows up blurry and i cant click on anything
[15:09] <_2> anyone know of a linux distro that doesn't compile against selinux ?
[15:09] <eagles0513875> !info selinux
[15:09] <mrunagi> are restricted drivers suppose to be rocket science?
[15:09] <eagles0513875> _2 y dont you want it compiled against selinux
[15:10] <eagles0513875> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | mrunagi
[15:10] <eagles0513875> mrunagi that has them all flash java etc
[15:10] <mrunagi> i was talking about restricted drivers for my video card
[15:10] <mrunagi> i cant seem to activate it
[15:10] <eagles0513875> O_o mrunagi does it tell you the name of the package
[15:11] <eagles0513875> mrunagi if so you can use apt-get to install it
[15:11] <_2> mrunagi long story,  (think tin foil hat)  but i would like a linux that doesn't require libselinux1.
[15:11] <mrunagi> all it says is nvidia accelerate graphics driver (version 177) [recommended]
[15:11] <eagles0513875> let me do some digging for ya mrunagi
[15:12] <delicowa> hi people
[15:12] <delicowa> i wanna be a part of the kubuntu development team how doi start
[15:12] <eagles0513875> !development
[15:12] <_2> !contribute
[15:13] <eagles0513875> mrunagi you want nvidia-glx-177 :)
[15:13] <mrunagi> couldnt find that package
[15:13] <eagles0513875> mrunagi run an apt-cache search nvidia and you should see it i might have mis copied the name since im connected to my linux box over ssh
[15:14] <mrunagi> nvidia-177-modaliases
[15:14] <mrunagi> ?
[15:15] <eagles0513875> dunno if you look up there is another one nvdia glx 177
[15:15] <mrunagi> says its installed
[15:15] <mrunagi> but it isnt activated
[15:15] <eagles0513875> mrunagi reboot
[15:15] <mrunagi> no no it didnt install it said its already installed
[15:15] <eagles0513875> mrunagi run a glxinfo and see what direct rendering says
[15:16] <Guest61528> how do i uninstall adobe flashplayer?
[15:16] <mrunagi> says yes
[15:16] <eagles0513875> mrunagi then the driver is installed :)
[15:16] <eagles0513875> !flash
[15:16] <mrunagi> hrm
[15:16] <mrunagi> i dunno
[15:17] <mrunagi> the scren gets artifacts when i type
[15:17] <mrunagi> and i bet you desktop effects wont work
[15:17] <eagles0513875> mrunagi did you restart it normally after driver installtion it requires a reboot
[15:17] <eagles0513875> Guest61528 try the link above
[15:17] <mrunagi> it forces you to
[15:18] <eagles0513875> ya usually it pops up saying reboot required
[15:18] <mrunagi> so i have to restart again
[15:18] <eagles0513875> mrunagi i would try wouldnt hurt
[15:18] <mrunagi> brb
[15:19] <Guest61528> what would be the best distro for a pIII with 512   ram?
[15:19] <eagles0513875> kubuntu Guest61528
[15:19] <eagles0513875> Guest61528 what are you wanting to do with it first of all
[15:20] <eagles0513875> for a server i would recommend ubuntu server
[15:20] <hyper_ch> as server I'd recommend debian
[15:20] <eagles0513875> hyper_ch whats wrong with ubuntu-server
[15:20] <Guest61528> eagles0513875: as much as possible
[15:20] <hyper_ch> eagles0513875: I like stable servers
[15:20] <hyper_ch> eagles0513875: and debian is just rock stable
[15:20] <eagles0513875> hyper_ch and ubuntu server is as well
[15:21] <hyper_ch> eagles0513875: older packages but on a server you don't need newest whizz....
[15:21] <eagles0513875> Guest61528 so you plan on using this as a server right
[15:21] <acke_> hey guys, in gnome usb is mounted with gnome-volume-manager, how is that done in kde?
[15:21] <eagles0513875> Guest61528 you need to try out various distros
[15:21] <Guest61528> eagles0513875: no just a pc
[15:21] <eagles0513875> acke_ this is kubuntu channel #ubuntu would be where u wanna go
[15:22] <eagles0513875> Guest61528 i like kubuntu
[15:22] <hyper_ch> p3, 512 mb ram.... hmmm... I'd rather use xubuntu or arch with kde
[15:22] <mrunagi> restricted manager still doesnt show any drivers activated
[15:22] <Guest61528> eagles0513875: im currently using kubuntu but seems a little slow
[15:22] <eagles0513875> i dunno mrunagi that is weird might want to check for bugs against jockey-kde
[15:23] <hyper_ch> Guest61528: if you like KDE then I'd try Arch with KDE.... should be faster.... but it's not "as easy" as kubuntu
[15:23] <eagles0513875> Guest61528 there is a way you can rebuild kde and optimize it for your hardware
[15:23] <acke_> eagles0513875: yes, since you guys in kubuntu dont answer kubuntu qauestions?
[15:23] <mrunagi> this is annoying
[15:23] <eagles0513875> acke_ we do
[15:23] <eagles0513875> mrunagi :(
[15:23] <acke_> eagles0513875: you make me confused
[15:23] <eagles0513875> acke_ join the #ubuntu channel for gnome suppor
[15:24] <acke_> eagles0513875: the ppls at ubuntu just told me to ask my question here. and y make me want to ask ubuntu about kubuntu questins
[15:24] <Guest61528> eagles0513875:  and how would i go about doing that couse i like kubuntu?
[15:24] <acke_> how does usb drives get automounted in kubuntu
[15:24] <acke_> ?
[15:24] <eagles0513875> !automount
[15:25] <eagles0513875> acke_ not sure
[15:25] <eagles0513875> Guest61528 is this nick registered
[15:25] <_2> seems that asking if anyone knows .* is taboo in #ubuntu      shame too, there are some really nice people in there some times.  </rant>
[15:25] <eagles0513875> _2 thats offtopic bro
[15:26] <eagles0513875> Guest61528 did you get my pm
[15:26] <_2> sorry   s=taboo=offtopic=g
[15:26] <mrunagi> wow my xorg has very little in it
[15:26] <hyper_ch> shouldn't external drives just popup and then you can mount them?
[15:27] <eagles0513875> hyper_ch normally they do
[15:27] <acke_> hyper_ch: i want them automounted
[15:27] <hyper_ch> so, need to add another thing to my repo generator :)
[15:27] <acke_> possible?
[15:27] <hyper_ch> acke_: it is
[15:27] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[15:28] <hyper_ch> hello BluesKaj, welcome to  #ubuntu. If you have a question, don't hestitate to ask. I hope you enjoy your stay here
[15:28] <_2> !ntfs | acke_
[15:28] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj can i pm ya with a weird question
[15:29] <BluesKaj> just ask here , eagles
[15:29] <eagles0513875> when i vnc into my linux box with krfb it shows up but its like i have no control when i have it setup for full control once i type my password it also shows up blurry and i cant click on anything
[15:30] <BluesKaj> srry eagles ...vnc isn't my strong suit . maybe someone else can help
[15:31] <_2> also, sometimes, putting things in the form of a question helps.  but not always
[15:38] <_2> so anyone in here know of a linux distro that isn't compiled against libselinux1 ?
[15:39] <eagles0513875> Daisuke_Ido can u help me
[15:41] <mrunagi> why is my xorg so empty
[15:43] <eagles0513875> mrunagi dunno
[15:43] <marius_> hello people
[15:43] <marius_> pls help
[15:44] <acke_> i am trying to automount usbdrives, some webpages mentions umask= 0 0 0, some mention fmask and dmask, anyone knows the difference or the purpose of those options?
[15:44] <marius_> webcam not working in kopete under kubuntu 8.10
[15:44] <_2> mrunagi that's the new xorg way,  moving toward a totally automated configuration without user control   (like windows)    at the present you can still use the config file and specify anything you want,  but the dirrection is to totally obsolete the config
[15:44] <marius_> any known sollutions_
[15:44] <marius_> ?
[15:44] <BluesKaj> mrunagi, intrepid relies on HAL generic drivers at the outset
[15:44] <_2> !webcam | does this have a trouble shooting section ?
[15:45] <mrunagi> sigh...........i just want to use my video  drivers i cant seem to activate them
[15:45] <BluesKaj> mrunagi, nvidia ati or ...?
[15:45] <mrunagi> nvidia
[15:46] <BluesKaj> which nvidia ?
[15:47] <mrunagi> 7800 gs
[15:47] <helio_> quit
[15:47] <mrunagi> 7800 go gs
[15:47] <marius_> well, the problem is only with kubuntu 8.10, my webcam showed fine in kubuntu and ubuntu 8.04
[15:48] <marius_> now it only shows some colours
[15:48] <marius_> no shapes
[15:48] <BluesKaj> mrunagi, open adept and type you card model into the searchbar , then look in properties to see if your card is listed
[15:49] <mrunagi> the drivers are installed
[15:49] <mrunagi> just not activated
[15:50] <BluesKaj> ok , then open kmenu/applications/system/hardware drivers to activate
[15:50] <acke_> is there a way to test the configurations in fstab without rebooting the comp?
[15:50] <eagles0513875> when i vnc into my linux box with krfb it shows up but its like i have no control when i have it setup for full control once i type my password it also shows up blurry and i cant click on anything
[15:50] <mrunagi> thats the issue, it doesnt activate
[15:50] <mrunagi> it says downloading for a second then goes away and then nothing
[15:51] <acke_> where does logs from when fstab is run at startup be found?
[15:52] <eagles0513875> acke_ /var/logs
[15:53] <_2> acke_ is that logged ?
[15:54] <mrunagi> any ideas BluesKaj?
[15:54] <_2> acke_ i thought mount only outputted if it failed so there shouldn't be a log specific to fstab
[15:54] <Xand3r> hey ho
[15:54] <Xand3r> where i can get qdbusviewer
[15:55] <_2> btw 'fstab' is never "run"  it's a config file    fstab=file system table
[15:56] <_2> acke_ at any rate you can do something like   sudo mount -va
[15:57] <mrunagi> so how are the desktop effects in intrepid...........id love to see them but unfortunately i cant lol
[15:57] <acke_> _2 thx
[15:57] <ole__> hej een eller anden mrevidende end jeg. Jeg søger een der ved noget om compilering og makefiler
[15:57] <BluesKaj> mrunagi, I think you have the wrong driver ...have you checked adept listing or nvidia 7800gs ?
[15:58] <BluesKaj> or=for
[15:58] <mrunagi> there is no listing for 7800gs
[15:58] <_2> ole__  LC_ALL='C' <your command here>
[15:58] <BluesKaj> did you check properties of the nvidia -kernel sources ?
[15:59] <mrunagi> where do i do that
[16:00] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj when i had intrepid on my desktop in europe didnt have this issue with my 8800gt O_o
[16:00] <BluesKaj> in adept , when you type nvidia 7800gs , there will be a list generated called kernel-souces
[16:01] <acke_> aaargh i am hateing right now.. ...... the fuckn website says use this command to get uuids ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ , then when ive added it to fstab, and run mount -a , it says that the uuids doesnt exist.. how the hell should shit work if it doesnt work... gRRRRFRGRGRGRG
[16:01] <mrunagi> i dont see kernel sources
[16:01] <acke_> *FruStraTioN*
[16:01] <eagles0513875> !language | acke_
[16:02] <acke_> and as always i dont have time to really fix stuff.. have to go.. TT
[16:02] <BluesKaj> mrunagi, are you using 'search' ?
[16:02] <mrunagi> yes
[16:02] <mrunagi> i see nvidia-common *-71-madaliases -96 -173 -177, xserver-xorg-video-nv smartdimmer jockey-kde jockey-common
[16:03] <_2> so,  research indicates that debian made coreutils depend on libselinux1  for the sole purpose of developing a debian selinux,   i.e. the only way selinux could be developed was if libselinux1 was absolutely required, so now there is no option, if you use debain or any dirivative, you are forced to use libselinux1. like it or not.
[16:03] <BluesKaj> mrunagi, you don't see a list on the right like nvidia71-kernel-source ?
[16:04] <deamoon> guys plz tell me how can i install something from .tar file?
[16:04] <deamoon> file name is Vuze_Installer.tar.bz2 how can i install it?
[16:05] <marius_> ppl help with my webcam in kubuntu 8.10
[16:05] <mrunagi> no
[16:05] <marius_> the 8.10 cannot show my webcam properly
[16:06] <deamoon> any 1 plz
[16:06] <hyper_ch> deamoon: azureus is in the repos
[16:07] <hyper_ch> marius_: is your webcam supported?
[16:07] <deamoon> but not the version 4
[16:07] <bazhang> !webcam > marius_
[16:07] <BluesKaj> mrunagi, then you need to upgrade your sources list , by enabling the thirdparty software tab in adept and all the sources in that list
[16:07] <deamoon> how can i upgrade it
[16:07] <deamoon> ?
[16:08] <marius_> well, it worked very well under kubuntu and ubuntu 8.04
[16:08] <marius_> the problem is with the 8.10
[16:08] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you should stick to the versions in the repos -
[16:08] <deamoon> ii c
[16:08] <deamoon> ok
[16:08] <deamoon> ty
[16:08] <deamoon> hyper
[16:08] <BluesKaj> mrunagi, then do a : sudo apt-get update , in the konsole
[16:08] <hyper_ch> marius_: hmmm..... is the webcam even recognized?
[16:09] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you can try to compile it on your own... but it requires more knowleged and you might be required to compile dependencies and stuff
[16:09] <marius_> well, it shows some colours and some fade shapes
[16:09] <deamoon> damn i have no clue how to do that
[16:09] <marius_> but it works super under previous versions
[16:09] <deamoon> cool
[16:09] <deamoon> its ok
[16:09] <deamoon> than
[16:10] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it's not THAT difficult... well, it depends on what you compile... I use rtorrent as torrent client and it's easy to compile
[16:10] <deamoon> r torrent petter than vuze?
[16:10] <deamoon> i got k torrent but i doesn work
[16:11] <_2> www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/selinux-guide/selg-preface-0011.html  <<< note the arguments against DAC are the primary arguments for MAC     but the args against DAC are as lame as they come, namely "someone might misconfigure their system, and make a security breach"    i'm like "so?" is this just another "big brother watching out for all the lesser humans" ?
[16:12] <mrunagi> ok its updated
[16:13] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I like rtorrent because it's command line only and hence very light
[16:13] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and I can fully control it when I have ssh access
[16:13] <deamoon> i c
[16:13] <deamoon> im not that good
[16:13] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you don't need to be good at it
[16:13] <deamoon> so its better to stick to vuze than
[16:13] <hyper_ch> deamoon: well, depends on what you want to do ;)
[16:14] <deamoon> i cant do fok all
[16:14] <deamoon> lol
[16:14] <deamoon> linux is like deep forest for me
[16:14] <mrunagi> a forest that likes to burst into flames randomly
[16:14] <deamoon> im getting use to it
[16:14] <hyper_ch> deamoon: what do you need the torrent client to do?
[16:14] <deamoon> but its hard if i need to do stuff
[16:15] <deamoon> download
[16:15] <deamoon> and seed
[16:15] <hyper_ch> deamoon: only be challenging things you improve your knowledge :)
[16:15] <Schuenemann> I believe any client does that
[16:15] <hyper_ch> deamoon: if that's all, then rtorrent is not difficult
[16:15] <deamoon> what else i can do with it
[16:16] <deamoon> ?
[16:16] <Schuenemann> have you tried ktorrent?
[16:16] <deamoon> yes
[16:16] <Schuenemann> you didn't like it?
[16:16] <deamoon> it stoped working
[16:16] <Schuenemann> what do you mean?
[16:16] <deamoon> dunno y
[16:17] <deamoon> well its not downloading anythink
[16:17] <deamoon> at all
[16:17] <deamoon> says no seeds or something else
[16:17] <hyper_ch> deamoon: people like to move completed torrents into other directories
[16:17] <hyper_ch> deamoon: or make time based activation of certain torrents
[16:17] <hyper_ch> or or or
[16:17] <Schuenemann> try adding a torrent with seeds and see if it works
[16:18] <deamoon> well ys i need to move tu specified folder fortorrents that i have made
[16:18] <hyper_ch> deamoon: rtorrent isn't really diffcult
[16:18] <deamoon> ok lets try if u cn help me
[16:18] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it's actually very powerfull but it requires a bit of learning
[16:19] <hyper_ch> deamoon: well, you should also learn about screen if you want to run rtorrent ;)
[16:19] <hyper_ch> deamoon: but that's simple
[16:19] <hyper_ch> deamoon: first:   sudo apt-get install screen
[16:19] <_2> wow, the more i read about selinux the more i hate it.
[16:19] <_2> i'm off to build a kernel without MAC support
[16:20] <hyper_ch> deamoon: second, install rtorrent from svn (or rather compile it). I made a little howto here:  http://www.howtoforge.com/compile-rtorrent-from-svn-ubuntu-8.04-hardy-heron
[16:22] <hyper_ch> deamoon: no private support
[16:22] <hyper_ch> deamoon: yes, rtorrent is independant from the desktop environment installed
[16:22] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it runs in the shell
[16:22] <hole> i have ndiswrapper running and my hardware is recognized but i'm still nnot clear how to list my available wireless networks
[16:23] <hyper_ch> hole: no clue about ndiswrapper... does network manager not recognize any networks?
[16:25] <hole> network manager is under system>preferences right?
[16:26] <hyper_ch> hole: should be in your system tray
[16:26] <NagWolf> hello
[16:26] <hole> right now i'm wired in to mom's network but i am tired if getting taken off because she needs the wire
[16:32] <hyper_ch> deamoon: still here?
[16:33] <deamoon> yes
[16:33] <deamoon> still doing
[16:33] <deamoon> it
[16:33] <hyper_ch> deamoon: just checking :)
[16:33] <deamoon> lol
[16:33] <deamoon> have no idea what im doing lol
[16:35] <deamoon> well i stuck on no12
[16:36] <hyper_ch> deamoon: let me check
[16:36] <deamoon> k
[16:36] <hyper_ch> deamoon: why are you stuck there?
[16:36] <hyper_ch> deamoon: just copy the whole thing and paste it into the terminal
[16:37] <deamoon> dunno i done that and on 13 nothing happening
[16:37] <hyper_ch> deamoon: not much should happen
[16:37] <hyper_ch> deamoon: pastebine the output of it
[16:37] <hyper_ch> deamoon: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[16:37] <hole> i have ndiswrapper running and my hardware is recognized but i'm still nnot clear how to list my available wireless networks
[16:38] <hyper_ch> hole: found the network manager int he system try?
[16:38] <cuznt> ok so how come my deaktop settings do not save after exit
[16:38] <hyper_ch> cuznt: what settings?
[16:38] <deamoon> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com:80/93781/
[16:38] <hyper_ch> deamoon: looks good :) continue :)
[16:39] <deamoon> oh
[16:39] <hole> System>Preferences>Network Configuration ????
[16:39] <deamoon> lol
[16:39] <cuznt> like my task bar goes away
[16:39] <cuznt> my tray manager
[16:39] <cuznt> my clock
[16:39] <cuznt> my mind... no j/k
[16:39] <hyper_ch> hole: I don't use kubuntu network manager anymore... all I know it should be in the system try
[16:39] <cuznt> im beta 4.2.x
[16:39] <hyper_ch> cuznt: so am I
[16:39] <hyper_ch> cuznt: works great
[16:40] <hole> i am not using kubuntu i am usung Un=buntu
[16:40] <cuznt> was kidding about my mind only
[16:40] <hole> oops Ubuntu
[16:40] <hyper_ch> !ubuntu | hole
[16:40] <hyper_ch> hmmm
[16:40] <hyper_ch> hole: try #ubuntu
[16:41] <hole> they werent any help either
[16:41] <hyper_ch> hole: try WICD then
[16:41] <hyper_ch> hole: that's what I use now
[16:42] <hyper_ch> deamoon: before running then rtorrent at the end, let me know :)
[16:42] <deamoon> ok
[16:43] <deamoon> ok now it says run it
[16:43] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you're at step 19 now?
[16:43] <deamoon> yes
[16:43] <deamoon> :D
[16:43] <kovacs_> hy
[16:43] <hyper_ch> deamoon: good
[16:43] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so now we create the config file
[16:43] <hyper_ch> deamoon: touch ~/.rtorrent.rc
[16:43] <kovacs_> help pls
[16:44] <g_> anyone here using kde 4.2 beta 2? if so do you know the work around to fixing the issues with not being able to login after the screen locks on you?  Its super annoying
[16:44] <deamoon> ok
[16:44] <kovacs_> Nibbles game not playin...
[16:44] <hyper_ch> deamoon: open it in your editor
[16:44] <hyper_ch> deamoon: probably:   kate ~/.rtorrent.rc
[16:44] <deamoon> like?
[16:44] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and then paste this into it:  http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/browser/trunk/rtorrent/doc/rtorrent.rc?rev=latest
[16:44] <deamoon> should i close that termional?
[16:44] <hyper_ch> deamoon: no, leave it open
[16:45] <hyper_ch> deamoon: then we make some adjustments to it ;)
[16:45] <hyper_ch> got the file open and pasted that thing?
[16:45] <deamoon> its emty
[16:45] <hyper_ch> deamoon: yeah, "touch" created an empty file
[16:45] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and on the page above yuo have the default config file
[16:46] <hyper_ch> deamoon: but it needs some tweaking
[16:46] <kovacs_> HEYYY
[16:46] <hyper_ch> !shout | kovacs_
[16:46] <hyper_ch> deamoon: copied that config file into the empty file?
[16:46] <deamoon> should i seave as? and paste to that address
[16:46] <deamoon> yes
[16:46] <kovacs_> ohh sorry
[16:46] <hyper_ch> deamoon: open that URL in the browser
[16:46] <hyper_ch> in there you have like line 1 .... line xxx
[16:47] <hyper_ch> just copy the content of that into your empty file
[16:47] <deamoon> and save it
[16:47] <hyper_ch> deamoon: actually, it's not good... it will copy the line numbers also
[16:47] <deamoon> right
[16:47] <hyper_ch> deamoon: don't save it yet
[16:47] <deamoon> k
[16:47] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I'll upload my config file and we modify then that
[16:48] <deamoon> k
[16:48] <hyper_ch> deamoon: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/93783/
[16:49] <hyper_ch> deamoon: copy and paste that into the .rtorrent.rc file
[16:49] <hyper_ch> deamoon: don't save it yet
[16:49] <hyper_ch> deamoon: then what is your maximum upload speed on your internet connection?
[16:49] <deamoon> i didnt coppy numper
[16:49] <deamoon> is it ok
[16:50] <deamoon> ?
[16:50] <deamoon> number
[16:50] <deamoon> all this 1.2.3 etc
[16:50] <hyper_ch> deamoon: which version did you now copy and paste?
[16:50] <deamoon> yours
[16:50] <hyper_ch> good
[16:50] <v-dogg> evening folks
[16:50] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now, what is your maximum upload speed on your internet connection?
[16:51] <deamoon> i just didnt coppy line numbers okm
[16:51] <deamoon> ?
[16:51] <deamoon> 2.5mb
[16:51] <hyper_ch> deamoon: yeah, you don't need the line numbers
[16:51] <deamoon> k
[16:51] <hyper_ch> deamoon: that's your upload?
[16:51] <hyper_ch> wow
[16:51] <deamoon> yes
[16:51] <hyper_ch> deamoon: find the line:  upload_rate
[16:52] <hyper_ch> deamoon: found it?
[16:52] <deamoon> nah not yet
[16:52] <v-dogg> what file manager would you recommend for an ex-windows use (for kde 3.5). Dolphin lack a few important features like tree view and up-folder button
[16:52] <hyper_ch> deamoon: line 18
[16:52] <hyper_ch> deamoon: upload_rate
[16:53] <g_> Is there a way to find a program that's installed on your system with a simple search feature by now?
[16:53] <deamoon> found it
[16:53] <hyper_ch> g_: what program?
[16:53] <g_> Ive got programs installed on the system but when i do a search for them they never find them what gives?
[16:53] <hyper_ch> deamoon: change the 55 to 205
[16:53] <deamoon> done
[16:54] <hyper_ch> then three lines below, you have directory
[16:54] <deamoon> yes
[16:54] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you see that?
[16:54] <deamoon> yes
[16:55] <Clyde> v-dogg, Konqueror
[16:55] <deamoon> directory = /media/rtorrent
[16:55] <deamoon> that yes
[16:55] <hyper_ch> ok, where do you want to have the base directory (where shall torrents be downloaded to?
[16:55] <deamoon> to deamoon torrents
[16:55] <hyper_ch> deamoon: what folder?
[16:56] <deamoon> torrents
[16:56] <deamoon> that the folder name
[16:56] <deamoon> iv got
[16:56] <hyper_ch> deamoon: torrents on your desktop or torrents in your homefolder?
[16:56] <deamoon> home
[16:56] <hyper_ch> deamoon: then change it to:   directory = /home/deamoon/torrents
[16:57] <mrunagi> desktop effects still wont work which leads me to believe that my drivers still arent working
[16:57] <deamoon> done
[16:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now, do you want certain config files and stuff also have as subfolder in the torrent directory or do you want to use another directory for that?
[16:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I chose to have everything in one place
[16:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you can do it differently
[16:58] <hyper_ch> deamoon: e.g.   session = /home/deamoon/rtorrent/session
[16:58] <deamoon> ill do as u have
[16:58] <deamoon> les problems for me
[16:58] <deamoon> lol
[16:58] <hyper_ch> deamoon: or in the same dir:   session = /home/deamoon/torrents/session
[16:58] <deamoon> same
[16:58] <hyper_ch> deamoon: the session is just 5 lines below the directory
[16:58] <hyper_ch> deamoon: change it there accordingly
[16:59] <deamoon> session = /home/deamoon/torrents/session change to this right
[16:59] <hyper_ch> deamoon: good, now 4 lines further down you have this:   schedule = watch_directory,5,5,load_start=/media/rtorrent/watchlist/*.torrent
[17:00] <hyper_ch> deamoon: change that to   schedule = watch_directory,5,5,load_start=/home/deamoon/torrents/watchlist/*.torrent
[17:00] <deamoon> ok
[17:00] <deamoon> done
[17:01] <hyper_ch> then 20 lines down, you see:   bind = 10.0.0.10
[17:01] <deamoon> ok
[17:01] <hyper_ch> deamoon: do you have just one network card in your computer and you connect only to one network?
[17:02] <deamoon> yes
[17:02] <hyper_ch> deamoon: then you can delete that line :)
[17:02] <deamoon> just that
[17:02] <hyper_ch> deamoon: just the     bind = 10.0.0.10
[17:02] <deamoon> ok
[17:02] <deamoon> done
[17:02] <hyper_ch> deamoon: the other lines have a   # at the start
[17:02] <deamoon> yes
[17:02] <hyper_ch> deamoon: that means that is just a comment and not a configuration
[17:03] <deamoon> ok
[17:03] <hyper_ch> now down to line 87
[17:03] <deamoon> i c
[17:03] <hyper_ch> deamoon: dht_port = 6881
[17:03] <hyper_ch> deamoon: this is the standard port... if you have problems with running rtorrent because your ISP blocks it, you might need to change it. I would leave it as it is right now
[17:03] <deamoon> found it
[17:04] <deamoon> k
[17:04] <hyper_ch> then go right to the end
[17:04] <hyper_ch> on line 111 and 112 you have view_filter = ....
[17:04] <deamoon> k
[17:04] <hyper_ch> you can delete those two also... this is a custom modfication of mine
[17:04] <v-dogg> Clyde: thanks. konqueror is ok.
[17:04] <deamoon> what they do?
[17:04] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I do have a set of "static" torrents that I seed endlessly
[17:05] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and with that filter you can set them into a seperate view
[17:05] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so you can "differentiate" between "normal" and "static" torrents
[17:05] <hyper_ch> deamoon: in order to use that you'd need to modify the source
[17:05] <deamoon> but it doesn do any restrictions right
[17:05] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so either delete those two lines
[17:06] <hyper_ch> deamoon: comment them out by adding a # at the front
[17:06] <hyper_ch> deamoon: or alter the source
[17:06] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and recompile it
[17:06] <hyper_ch> but don't leave them as it is
[17:07] <hyper_ch> modifying the course would not be difficult
[17:07] <deamoon> i comment them
[17:07] <hyper_ch> but if you don't know that there are torrents that you will keep seeding forever, then there's no point of having that enabled :)
[17:07] <hyper_ch> and the last two lines are entries on custom throttling of individual torrents
[17:07] <deamoon> ok
[17:07] <hyper_ch> my_throttle --> the name that is displayed in rtorrent
[17:07] <hyper_ch> and the 5 is the speed to which it gets throttled
[17:08] <hyper_ch> that would be 5kByte
[17:08] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now the most important things are changed, you can save the file now
[17:08] <deamoon> so should i svae or save as
[17:08] <hyper_ch> now we need to create the according directories
[17:09] <hyper_ch> save
[17:09] <deamoon> k
[17:09] <hyper_ch> deamoon: if you run now:     cat /home/deamoon/.rtorrent.rc
[17:09] <hyper_ch> deamoon: will it list the content of the file?
[17:09] <deamoon> its in terminal
[17:09] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so it did list the content in the teriminal?
[17:10] <deamoon> yes
[17:10] <hyper_ch> deamoon: good
[17:10] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now run:  mkdir /home/deamoon/torrents
[17:10] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and:  mkdir /home/deamoon/torrents/session
[17:10] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and:  mkdir /home/deamoon/torrents/watchfolder
[17:10] <deamoon> i got that dir already
[17:11] <hyper_ch> it's ok if you have it already :)
[17:11] <hyper_ch> deamoon: the session and watchfolder shouldn't exist yet I guess
[17:11] <deamoon> no
[17:12] <deamoon> not yet
[17:12] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so you created them now?
[17:12] <deamoon> 1 sec plz
[17:14] <deamoon> ok done
[17:14] <hyper_ch> good :)
[17:14] <deamoon> sry for delay
[17:14] <hyper_ch> now start rtorrent by issuing  "rtorrent" in the terminal
[17:15] <deamoon> k
[17:15] <hyper_ch> deamoon: on the bottom, does it give any error message?
[17:15] <Yermek> Куда я попал? :)
[17:15] <hyper_ch> !ru | Yermek
[17:15] <deamoon> no
[17:15] <hyper_ch> deamoon: good, now quit rtorrent by issuing:   ctrl+q
[17:16] <deamoon> done
[17:16] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now let's do some magic :)
[17:16] <deamoon> lol
[17:16] <deamoon> k
[17:16] <hyper_ch> deamoon: download this file   http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/simple/intrepid/desktop/kubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent  into the /home/deamoon/torrents/watchfolder
[17:16] <hyper_ch> just as test :)
[17:17] <hyper_ch> if you downloaded the .torrent file into the watchfolder, restart rtorrent
[17:17] <deamoon> grrr vuze grab it
[17:17] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ^^
[17:17] <deamoon> i need to remove vuze now
[17:17] <hyper_ch> deamoon: :)
[17:17] <deamoon> tell me how
[17:17] <deamoon> plz
[17:18] <hyper_ch> deamoon: issue:  sudo apt-get remove vuze
[17:18] <hyper_ch> deamoon: in the terminal
[17:18] <deamoon> k
[17:18] <hyper_ch> deamoon: but close it first
[17:19] <hyper_ch> btw, congratulations for your first compiling :)
[17:19] <deamoon> does it removed all files
[17:19] <deamoon> ty
[17:19] <deamoon> lol
[17:19] <hyper_ch> deamoon: no, it leaves the config files
[17:19] <deamoon> k
[17:19] <hyper_ch> and downloaded stuff
[17:19] <deamoon> should i remove em
[17:19] <deamoon> 2
[17:20] <hyper_ch> deamoon: if you don't need those files anmore, remove them
[17:21] <deamoon> i still got vuze
[17:21] <hyper_ch> deamoon: what have you still got?
[17:21] <deamoon> how come
[17:21] <hyper_ch> deamoon: vuze might just be the metapackage
[17:21] <hyper_ch> deamoon: also run:   sudo apt-get remove azureus
[17:22] <deamoon> ok
[17:22] <deamoon> lets try now
[17:22] <hyper_ch> :)
[17:22] <hyper_ch> you could also use the terminal to download that file ;)
[17:22] <deamoon> got error
[17:22] <deamoon> now
[17:22] <hyper_ch> what error?
[17:23] <deamoon> Plugin loader could not load the plugin:
[17:23] <deamoon> kget_bittorrentfactory
[17:23] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ok, open this in a browser:  http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/ubuntu-cdimage/intrepid/
[17:24] <hyper_ch> deamoon: what browser do you use?
[17:24] <deamoon> firefox
[17:25] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you can right-click and select save to, right?
[17:25] <deamoon> yesd
[17:25] <hyper_ch> deamoon: select one of the .torrent files and save it into the watchfolder
[17:25] <deamoon> k
[17:25] <hyper_ch> deamoon: well care later about the .torrent files and their link in kde
[17:26] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ok, now restart rtorrent by issuing  "rtorrent" in the terminal
[17:27] <deamoon> 1 sec
[17:27] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now it should auto-load that downloaded .torrent file and start downloading
[17:27] <deamoon> 1 sec plz
[17:28] <cool> hello , can I somehow get kbluetoothd to work in 8.10 ? what's wrong with it?
[17:28] <flavia> hi, so I got wifi working fine, only problem it's not connecting automatically at boot time. any ideas?
[17:28] <deamoon> ok
[17:29] <deamoon> restart it
[17:29] <deamoon> and file in whatch
[17:29] <deamoon> folder
[17:29] <Tm_T> cool: the service behind it, bluez, got changed bit too soon for us, so kbluetooth isn't working yet
[17:29] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so, it did load it now in rtorrent and it starts downloading the file?
[17:29] <deamoon> no
[17:30] <hyper_ch> no? to which question?
[17:30] <deamoon> all
[17:30] <deamoon> :D
[17:30] <hyper_ch> pastebin the output of:   ls /home/deamoon/torrents/watchfolder
[17:31] <deamoon> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com:80/93799/
[17:31] <hyper_ch> deamoon: sorry:   my mistaked... close rtorrent again
[17:31] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and edit the .rtorrent.rc config again
[17:31] <hyper_ch> deamoon: kate ~/.rtorrent.rc
[17:32] <hyper_ch> deamoon: go to line 30 schedule = watch_directory,5,5,load_start
[17:32] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and change it to:   schedule = watch_directory,5,5,load_start=/home/deamoon/torrents/watchfolder/*.torrent
[17:32] <hyper_ch> deamoon: in the config it's named watchlist
[17:32] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and we created now watchfolder
[17:33] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so it won't recognize it of course :)
[17:33] <hyper_ch> deamoon: pretty stupid of me :)
[17:33] <deamoon> lol
[17:33] <deamoon> ok lets c now
[17:33] <hyper_ch> save and close the file
[17:34] <hyper_ch> and restart rtorrent
[17:34] <deamoon> yaha
[17:34] <deamoon> it works
[17:34] <hyper_ch> good :)
[17:34] <hyper_ch> so, basically to start downloading new torrents directly, just put them into the watchfolder
[17:34] <deamoon> and how can i stop it now
[17:34] <hyper_ch> deamoon: just one torrent?
[17:34] <deamoon> k
[17:34] <hyper_ch> use the arrow keys to select the torrent
[17:35] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, i don't see the point of a cli torrent client , ktorrent works very well and is easy to use , unless of course you're a CLI dude
[17:35] <deamoon> lets say now
[17:35] <deamoon> how to stop it
[17:35] <deamoon> ?
[17:35] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: memory foot print
[17:35] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: confortability of fully controlling it through ssh
[17:35] <hyper_ch> deamoon: selected it?
[17:35] <hyper_ch> deamoon: by using the up/down arrow keys?
[17:35] <deamoon> yes
[17:36] <hyper_ch> deamoon: press   ctrl+k
[17:36] <hyper_ch> deamoon: that will close it
[17:36] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ctrl+s will restart it
[17:36] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and pressing twice ctrl+d (while started) or once while closed will remove the torrent
[17:36] <hyper_ch> deamoon: however it will NOT delete the downloaded datafiles
[17:37] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it will just delete the .torrent file
[17:37] <deamoon> i c
[17:37] <hyper_ch> deamoon: restart the torrent again
[17:37] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I'll show you another important thing
[17:38] <hyper_ch> deamoon: if you have restarted it, make sure it's selected,
[17:38] <hyper_ch> deamoon: then press the right arrow key
[17:38] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you get then torrent details
[17:38] <deamoon> grr i deleted tor file
[17:38] <deamoon> lol
[17:39] <hyper_ch> deamoon: in the file list and tracker list you can activate or deactivate certain files if the torrent has more than one or enable/disable certain trackers (like moviex)
[17:39] <deamoon> w8 sec plz
[17:39] <hyper_ch> deamoon: well, I just chose ubuntu torrent because I knew it was well seeded and it should download immediately after adding
[17:41] <deamoon> ok i c now
[17:41] <hyper_ch> deamoon: if you have a multi tracker or multi file torrent, at the according point just press the right arrow key again
[17:41] <deamoon> ok
[17:41] <hyper_ch> deamoon: press the left key again to go back to the main view
[17:42] <hyper_ch> when you're there, press key 1-9 (not on the numeric block but above the letters) to change the view
[17:43] <deamoon> ohh thats nice
[17:43] <hyper_ch> and with the zxc and asd keys you can lower /raise the max upload limit
[17:43] <hyper_ch> on the bottom left you see the limit
[17:43] <deamoon> how can i pause downlad
[17:43] <deamoon> ?
[17:43] <hyper_ch> it should be 205 / off for you
[17:43] <hyper_ch> deamoon: pausing is pressing  ctrl+d  only once
[17:43] <hyper_ch> deamoon: while the torrent is started
[17:44] <hyper_ch> or do you mean pause the complete download?
[17:44] <hyper_ch> I mean pausing to everything?
[17:44] <deamoon> nah when downlading
[17:44] <hyper_ch> deamoon: a single torrent or all?
[17:44] <deamoon> 1
[17:45] <hyper_ch> deamoon: press   ctrl+d just once while the torrent is started
[17:45] <deamoon> k
[17:45] <hyper_ch> deamoon: however I normally close the torrent and use ctrl+k
[17:45] <cuznt> which ftp is better to use?
[17:45] <hyper_ch> deamoon: because I accidentally deleted a few times a torrent :)
[17:45] <cuznt> !ftpd
[17:46] <hyper_ch> deamoon: got any question to rtorrent this far?
[17:46] <hyper_ch> cuznt: those are ftp servers... not clients
[17:46] <deamoon> so ctrl+k stops torrent downlad
[17:47] <cuznt> right
[17:47] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it closes a torrent
[17:47] <cuznt> so which is the best client to use then pls
[17:47] <hyper_ch> deamoon: this means it will also move loaded chunks from memory
[17:47] <hyper_ch> cuznt: depends... you can use konqueror or if you want a pure ftp client, use kftp
[17:47] <hyper_ch> cuznt: or filezilla
[17:47] <deamoon> and how can i pause torrent up and down
[17:48] <cuznt> thanks
[17:48] <hyper_ch> deamoon: easiest is to close it:   ctrl+k
[17:48] <deamoon> i c
[17:48] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and continue with   ctrl+s
[17:48] <deamoon> i presed ctrl k
[17:48] <deamoon> and it still uploading
[17:49] <hyper_ch> deamoon: the status did not change to [CLOSED] ?
[17:49] <deamoon> yes it did
[17:49] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it takes a little while
[17:49] <hyper_ch> deamoon: the speed is an average
[17:49] <deamoon> ohh now it stoped
[17:49] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so it first needs to adjust
[17:49] <deamoon> i c
[17:50] <deamoon> its nice stuff u know
[17:50] <hyper_ch> deamoon: any more questions right now about rtorrent?
[17:50] <deamoon> well its prety clear at a moment
[17:50] <hyper_ch> deamoon: good... because we have one huge problem
[17:50] <hyper_ch> deamoon: if you close the terminal now
[17:50] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it will also close rtorrent
[17:51] <hyper_ch> deamoon: that's where "screen" comes into play
[17:51] <hyper_ch> deamoon: screen can be defined as "terminal multiplexer"
[17:51] <deamoon> aha
[17:51] <hyper_ch> deamoon: bascially screen allows you to run multiple terminals within itself
[17:51] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it's very simple to handle (I'll also give you some links afterwards
[17:51] <hyper_ch> deamoon: (1) close rtorrent
[17:52] <hyper_ch> deamoon: (2) start screen by entering   "screen"   into the terminal
[17:52] <deamoon> u mean ctrl+q
[17:52] <hyper_ch> deamoon: (3) you will get some text on the screen (ignore it just now)
[17:52] <hyper_ch> deamoon: yes,   ctrl+q
[17:52] <hyper_ch> deamoon: (4) you will see then a "blank" terminal again
[17:52] <hyper_ch> deamoon: addon for (3) --> press enter
[17:53] <deamoon> hm
[17:53] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ?
[17:53] <deamoon> an that text i presed space bar
[17:53] <hyper_ch> deamoon: tht works also I think
[17:53] <nikita> hola
[17:54] <deamoon> k
[17:54] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so you started "screen" and you have now an empty terminal before you?
[17:54] <deamoon> deamoon@deamoon-desctop:~/rtorrent/trunk/rtorrent$
[17:54] <hyper_ch> deamoon: great
[17:54] <deamoon> thats what i got at a moment
[17:54] <hyper_ch> now start rtorrent
[17:54] <hyper_ch> it will be started in screen then
[17:55] <deamoon> ok
[17:55] <hyper_ch> now press the following:  ctrl+a  &  ctrl+c
[17:55] <deamoon> and how cna i use termional
[17:55] <hyper_ch> deamoon: what do you mean?
[17:56] <deamoon> i mean if i need to use terminal for aptitude
[17:56] <deamoon> or so
[17:56] <hyper_ch> deamoon: we're getting there :)
[17:56] <hyper_ch> deamoon: press:   ctrl+a & ctrl+c
[17:56] <deamoon> i did
[17:56] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now you should have a blank termianl again, right?
[17:56] <deamoon> deamoon@deamoon-desctop:~/rtorrent/trunk/rtorrent$
[17:57] <deamoon> thats the line i got
[17:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: good, what we did is the following:
[17:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ctrl+a --> that command said that it shall address "screen"
[17:57] <deamoon> k
[17:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ctrl+c --> that command then said to screen that it shall create another virtual terminal
[17:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: maybe you want to monitor your system also a bit
[17:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: there are two tools, top and htop
[17:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: top is installed by default
[17:58] <hyper_ch> deamoon: htop is not but is nicer
[17:58] <nikita> hello
[17:58] <deamoon> ok
[17:58] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now issue:  sudo apt-get install htop
[17:58] <hyper_ch> deamoon: let me know when you're done :)
[17:58] <deamoon> k
[17:58] <deamoon> donne
[17:58] <hyper_ch> launch htop by issuing:   htop
[17:59] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you should get a colorfull screen
[17:59] <hyper_ch> with the processes listed
[17:59] <deamoon> htopyes
[17:59] <hyper_ch> cpu used
[17:59] <hyper_ch> memory usage
[17:59] <hyper_ch> deamoon: right?
[17:59] <deamoon> yes
[17:59] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now let's do some screen magic
[18:00] <hyper_ch> deamoon: remember, in screen terminal 1 we have rtorretn running
[18:00] <deamoon> its like task manager on windows right
[18:00] <hyper_ch> deamoon: in screen terminal 2 we have htop running
[18:00] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now press:   ctrl+a  &  n
[18:00] <deamoon> ok
[18:00] <hyper_ch> deamoon: that means again (ctrl+a) send command to "screen" and "n" cycle to the next virtual terminal
[18:00] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you should be back at rtorrent now
[18:00] <deamoon> im in rtorrent
[18:00] <hyper_ch> right?
[18:01] <deamoon> yes
[18:01] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now press again  ctrl+a  & n
[18:01] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and you're at htop
[18:01] <deamoon> yes
[18:01] <hyper_ch> deamoon: for heaven's sake we open now a third virtual terminal
[18:01] <hyper_ch> deamoon: press again  ctrl+a  &  ctrl+c
[18:01] <deamoon> i did already
[18:01] <deamoon> lol
[18:01] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and cycle through them again
[18:01] <hyper_ch> deamoon: with ctrl+a & n
[18:02] <hyper_ch> deamoon: all works, right?
[18:02] <deamoon> :D
[18:02] <deamoon> yes
[18:02] <hyper_ch> now, let's assume you have screen running at home
[18:02] <hyper_ch> and you are at school
[18:02] <hyper_ch> and you want to check how it goes
[18:02] <deamoon> ok
[18:02] <hyper_ch> so you would have to setup a ssh connection to your home computer
[18:02] <r3n4tun1x> fgdfs
[18:02] <deamoon> k
[18:02] <hyper_ch> but we skip that now
[18:02] <deamoon> 1 min plz i need to toilet
[18:03] <hyper_ch> deamoon: just open a new konsol termianl
[18:03] <hyper_ch> deamoon: a real one
[18:03] <hyper_ch> deamoon: no problem ;)
[18:03] <deamoon> ty
[18:03] <deamoon> :D
[18:03] <r3n4tun1x> Vão todos tomar no meio dos seus cús!!!
[18:03] <r3n4tun1x> gf
[18:04] <hyper_ch> !br | r3n4tun1x
[18:05] <deamoon> im back
[18:05] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ok, open a complete new real terminal
[18:05] <deamoon> close that 1?
[18:05] <hyper_ch> deamoon: no, let it running (just for demonstration)
[18:06] <deamoon> ok
[18:06] <deamoon> its open now
[18:06] <r3n4tun1x> vai tomar no cú
[18:06] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now, you being at school, you know that a screen session is already running at home
[18:07] <deamoon> ok
[18:07] <hyper_ch> deamoon: to check this, enter this command:   screen -ls
[18:07] <deamoon> at work mate
[18:07] <deamoon> at work
[18:07] <hyper_ch> deamoon: that will list the screens
[18:07] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ok, at work then ;)
[18:07] <hyper_ch> you get something like this:
[18:07] <hyper_ch> There is a screen on:
[18:07] <hyper_ch>         7587.pts-1.xubi (12/27/2008 03:41:30 PM)        (Attached)
[18:07] <hyper_ch> 1 Socket in /var/run/screen/S-hyper.
[18:07] <deamoon> yes
[18:07] <hyper_ch> deamoon: right?
[18:07] <deamoon> yes'
[18:07] <hyper_ch> deamoon: good, now we detach that screen
[18:08] <deamoon> k
[18:08] <hyper_ch> deamoon: run:   screen -d
[18:08] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and it says it detached
[18:08] <deamoon> yes
[18:08] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and now attach with.   screen -r
[18:09] <hyper_ch> deamoon: cycle through the virtual screen termianls to check if everything is right
[18:09] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ctrl+a  &  n
[18:09] <deamoon> ohh it does work
[18:09] <hyper_ch> deamoon: good :)
[18:09] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now just for fun
[18:09] <deamoon> very impresed
[18:09] <hyper_ch> deamoon: close both real terminals
[18:09] <deamoon> ok
[18:09] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and afterwards open a new one
[18:09] <hyper_ch> deamoon: run again.   screen -ls
[18:10] <deamoon> k
[18:10] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you see, it's detached now
[18:10] <deamoon> yes
[18:10] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so you can directly attach to it:   screen -r
[18:10] <hyper_ch> deamoon: that works also, right?
[18:10] <deamoon> i got back
[18:10] <hyper_ch> deamoon: good :)
[18:11] <deamoon> ye
[18:11] <deamoon> it does
[18:11] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now you can also manually detach screen by issuing:   ctrl+a  &  d
[18:11] <deamoon> done
[18:11] <hyper_ch> deamoon: good :) now you got the essential tools together
[18:12] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I'll give you now some links to "readup"
[18:12] <hyper_ch> deamoon: in case you have some issues
[18:12] <hyper_ch> deamoon: screen:  http://jmcpherson.org/screen.html
[18:12] <hyper_ch> deamoon: rtorrent:  http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/05/02/howto-use-rtorrent-like-a-pro/
[18:13] <hyper_ch> deamoon: (those two links got me hooked with screen and rtorrent)
[18:13] <hyper_ch> deamoon: then of course the rtorrent homepage:  http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/
[18:13] <ubuntu_> So has anyone tried ext4 here yet?
[18:13] <hyper_ch> deamoon: especially the user guide:  http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/RTorrentUserGuide   (remember, mentioning of   ^.... means  ctrl+.....)
[18:14] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and rtorrent common tasks:  http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/RTorrentCommonTasks
[18:14] <hyper_ch> deamoon: that should help to answer most questions :)
[18:14] <deamoon> it will
[18:14] <deamoon> omg
[18:14] <deamoon> so much info
[18:15] <hyper_ch> deamoon: last but not least, here there's also a rtorrent support channel:  #rtorrent  :)
[18:15] <deamoon> ty hyper
[18:16] <gir_> Sorry to bother, is there anyone around who can help me with an nvidia drivers saga (intrepid)?
[18:16] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now a few other things
[18:16] <deamoon> k
[18:16] <hyper_ch> deamoon: .torrent files still try to open with vuze, right?
[18:16] <deamoon> no
[18:16] <deamoon> ohh i dont know
[18:16] <deamoon> now
[18:16] <hyper_ch> deamoon: not anymore? you fixed that already?
[18:16] <deamoon> nah
[18:16] <deamoon> w8 i check
[18:16] <hyper_ch> deamoon: :)
[18:16] <deamoon> lol
[18:17] <deamoon> no its not
[18:17] <deamoon> its ok now
[18:17] <hyper_ch> deamoon: good... then to use the true power of rtorrent and screen is to be able to ssh into your box
[18:17] <hyper_ch> deamoon: are you behind a router?
[18:17] <deamoon> yes
[18:18] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and do you actually want to be able to connect from everywhere to your box?
[18:18] <deamoon> it would be nice
[18:18] <hyper_ch> good :)
[18:18] <deamoon> ol
[18:18] <hyper_ch> deamoon: install openssh-server and denyhosts:    sudo apt-get install openssh-server denyhosts
[18:19] <hyper_ch> deamoon: openssh-server is the actual sever that lets you connect from outside
[18:19] <deamoon> ok
[18:19] <hyper_ch> denyhosts is a anti-bruteforce tool
[18:19] <deamoon> like ftp?
[18:19] <hyper_ch> deamoon: no, it will be like a terminal
[18:19] <EnMasse187> guys need uber helps with amarok
[18:19] <deamoon> ok
[18:19] <deamoon> done
[18:19] <hyper_ch> EnMasse187: #amarok
[18:19] <EnMasse187> i set it up today
[18:19] <EnMasse187> >_>
[18:19] <EnMasse187> first ubuntu says kubuntu
[18:19] <EnMasse187> now kubunut says amarok
[18:19] <EnMasse187> >_________________________________>
[18:19] <hyper_ch> EnMasse187: :)
[18:20] <hyper_ch> EnMasse187: or should I have directed you back at #ubuntu ? ^^
[18:20] <EnMasse187> yes
[18:20] <EnMasse187> please
[18:20] <hyper_ch> EnMasse187:  #amarok is the best try... there are amarok developers in there
[18:20] <EnMasse187> i went into amarok and said
[18:20] <EnMasse187> need uber helpz
[18:20] <EnMasse187> :)
[18:20] <hyper_ch> EnMasse187: you don't say that
[18:20] <EnMasse187> i think that was why
[18:20] <EnMasse187> i was directed
[18:20] <hyper_ch> EnMasse187: you normally say what the problem is
[18:20] <EnMasse187> what do i say then?
[18:20] <EnMasse187> i also asked in wine, they said how is that wine related
[18:20] <EnMasse187> XD
[18:21] <gir_> is there a channel for nvidia stuff around here?
[18:21] <hyper_ch> deamoon: denyhosts will auto-ban ip addresses that try too often to connect to your ssh server without proper logins
[18:21] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so rule 1 is: have not a simple password
[18:21] <deamoon> ok
[18:21] <hyper_ch> deamoon: if you follow tht, then they cannot just guess the password
[18:22] <deamoon> k
[18:22] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I mean they would also need to know the username (which is already hard)
[18:22] <hyper_ch> deamoon: just making sure your box won't get hacked
[18:22] <deamoon> :)
[18:22] <deamoon> lol
[18:22] <hyper_ch> gir_: not sure if it's linux based nvidia
[18:22] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so you normally want to auto-ban IP addresses that try to often to get in ;) and that's what denyhosts does
[18:23] <hyper_ch> deamoon: the next thing you need to do is to forward port 22 from your router to your box
[18:23] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I assume your box has a dedicated IP?
[18:23] <deamoon> ok
[18:23] <deamoon> yes
[18:23] <hyper_ch> gir_: no private query
[18:23] <hyper_ch> deamoon: that's all there is needed
[18:23] <brazila> hi
[18:23] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now you can access your box through ssh
[18:23] <hyper_ch> hello brazila
[18:23] <deamoon> k
[18:23] <brazila> anyone could help
[18:24] <hyper_ch> deamoon: at work, you're on windows?
[18:24] <brazila> ?
[18:24] <deamoon> yes
[18:24] <hyper_ch> brazila: mind-reading is not a skill that many people posses... so telling the issue could help
[18:24] <EnMasse187> guys hey
[18:24] <EnMasse187> guess what
[18:24] <EnMasse187> amarok is not helping
[18:24] <hyper_ch> deamoon: on windows you have a ssh tool called Putty
[18:24] <deamoon> ok
[18:24] <hyper_ch> gir_:
[18:24] <EnMasse187> how do i pronounce daemon?
[18:24] <EnMasse187> demon?
[18:24] <deamoon> i think i saw it somewere
[18:24] <hyper_ch> gir_: once more a private support request and you're on my ignore list
[18:24] <EnMasse187> da emon?
[18:24] <EnMasse187> day mon?
[18:24] <hyper_ch> deamoon: google for "putty"
[18:24] <brazila> i want to download something like musics
[18:24] <EnMasse187> day man?
[18:24] <jussi01> day-mon
[18:25] <brazila> etc
[18:25] <brazila> but
[18:25] <EnMasse187> ahh
[18:25] <brazila> i would
[18:25] <brazila> like to use
[18:25] <jussi01> !enter | brazila
[18:25] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it's just an .exe file
[18:25] <brazila> ok
[18:25] <deamoon> ok
[18:25] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and you would also need to know your home IP
[18:25] <deamoon> ok
[18:25] <hyper_ch> deamoon: do you have a static public IP provided by your ISP?
[18:25] <brazila> sorry
[18:25] <deamoon> static
[18:25] <dstar> Hey, is it possible to run KDE apps under Gnome and get sound? I can't run KDE on my laptop right now, because for some reason resizing windows takes an absurdly long time (as in, 5-6 seconds) and googling didn't turn up anything useful, but _lord_ I don't like the gnome apps....
[18:26] <hyper_ch> deamoon: nice :)
[18:26] <deamoon> lol
[18:26] <brazila> is there any program p2p for linux?
[18:26] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I mean your public IP on the internet
[18:26] <deamoon> yes
[18:26] <hyper_ch> deamoon: the one that your ISP assigns to your router
[18:26] <deamoon> it is static
[18:26] <hyper_ch> deamoon: that's also static? cool
[18:26] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you know it by heart?
[18:26] <Al_nZ> morning people
[18:26] <brazila> ??
[18:26] <jussi01> !limewire | brazila
[18:26] <deamoon> well i used it before on windows for ftp
[18:27] <hyper_ch> deamoon: easy :)
[18:27] <deamoon> but now on linux cant
[18:27] <hyper_ch> deamoon: well, putty is simple, just enter the ipaddress
[18:27] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and connect
[18:27] <deamoon> cos dont know how
[18:27] <brazila> how to install it using apt-get?? like root?
[18:27] <hyper_ch> deamoon: then at the prompt enter your user name
[18:27] <slow-motion> hi
[18:27] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and your password
[18:27] <Al_nZ> would someone be able to help me with vncserver? I have it running on ubuntu but cant connect to it from my XP box. Says connect failed?
[18:27] <hector__> hola
[18:27] <deamoon> w8
[18:27] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and you have a terminal like before
[18:27] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so rtorrent and screen is no problem with putty
[18:27] <deamoon> i look at mine laptop
[18:27] <deamoon> k
[18:27] <deamoon> 1 sec
[18:27] <hyper_ch> deamoon: for "ftp" I can recommend WinSCP
[18:28] <deamoon> ok
[18:28] <Al_nZ> I dont think I have the right port open, but then again not even sure if a firewall is running, or the right port open?
[18:28] <alltheworngthing> I'm having some trouble booting, any one have a moment to double check my setup?
[18:28] <deamoon> could u help me to set it up later plz
[18:28] <hyper_ch> deamoon: sure
[18:28] <deamoon> k
[18:28] <deamoon> cool
[18:28] <deamoon> so 1 sec
[18:28] <hyper_ch> deamoon: let me know when you're back
[18:28] <brazila> anyone knows how to install it using the konsole?
[18:28] <deamoon> i need to load win an laptop
[18:28] <hyper_ch> brazila: sudo apt-get install frostwire
[18:29] <brazila> ok
[18:29] <brazila> thanks but i would like to install Ares P2P
[18:29] <brazila> is there on Linux?
[18:29] <hyper_ch> brazila: no clue what ares is
[18:29] <brazila> oO
[18:30] <brazila> by the way, thank  you very much for help me
[18:30] <hyper_ch> brazila: does ares use it's own p2p protocol? or is it just an edonkey program?
[18:31] <HappySmileMan> brazila: I think ares is only for Windows
[18:31] <brazila> ah
[18:31] <brazila> i thought it
[18:31] <hyper_ch> it might run through wine
[18:31] <brazila> too
[18:31] <hyper_ch> if you really want ares
[18:31] <deamoon> ok will
[18:31] <hyper_ch> but if it's an edonkey program, then just use frostwire
[18:31] <brazila> :S
[18:31] <dstar> ... okay, weird. Last night I wasn't getting sound from konversation, now I am. Oh well, it works.
[18:31] <brazila> didnt install
[18:32] <hyper_ch> brazila: what did not install?
[18:32] <brazila> frostwire
[18:32] <hyper_ch> brazila: why not?
[18:32] <brazila> here said that is impossible
[18:32] <dstar> Does anyone know if there's a fix for the slow window resizing problem? Googling didn't help, and I can't use my KDE session when it takes 5-6 seconds to resize a window.
[18:32] <brazila> to choose
[18:32] <hyper_ch> !pastebin | brazila
[18:33] <hyper_ch> brazila: copy the whole output from the terminal into pastebin
[18:33] <PhilRod> dstar: fwiw, beta nvidia drivers helped things for me, although window resizing is still slowish
[18:33] <PhilRod> (hope that helps, gtg)
[18:33] <deamoon> ok im back
[18:33] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ok, you got a windows box available for testing?
[18:34] <brazila> :S
[18:34] <deamoon> yes
[18:34] <hyper_ch> deamoon: found putty?
[18:34] <dstar> PhilRod: I've got an ATI 3100...
[18:34] <deamoon> i just forwardingport now to mine pc
[18:34] <deamoon> ye
[18:34] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ;)
[18:34] <brazila> im knew on linux im uusing Kurumin i dont know anything
[18:34] <brazila> sorry
[18:34] <hyper_ch> brazila: just copy the terminal output into pastebin
[18:35] <hyper_ch> brazila: and then give the new url after posting here
[18:36] <hyper_ch> deamoon: just let me know when you're ready ;)
[18:36] <deamoon> how can write in red
[18:36] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you just "highlight" someone by entering their name ;)
[18:37] <bazhang> deamoon, type hyp <tab>
[18:37] <brazila> http://paste.ubuntu.com/93830/
[18:37] <brazila> ??
[18:37] <deamoon> hyper_ch ok
[18:37] <hyper_ch> deamoon: in a channel that's busy it's good practice to do... as this way the other will not miss the message
[18:37] <bazhang> deamoon, use tab complete :)
[18:37] <deamoon> oh
[18:37] <brazila> i had to do this?
[18:37] <hyper_ch> brazila: but now paste the output of when you try to install frostwire:
[18:38] <hyper_ch> brazila: pasting is good... but the error output is needed
[18:38] <hyper_ch> brazila: run again...   sudo apt-get install frostwire
[18:38] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ready now?
[18:38] <brazila> this is in portuguese
[18:38] <brazila> can be ???
[18:38] <hyper_ch> brazila: still paste it
[18:38] <deamoon> 1 sec connction type tcp or udt
[18:38] <deamoon> udp?
[18:39] <hyper_ch> brazila: or you might want to ask in #kubuntu-br
[18:39] <hyper_ch> deamoon: tcp
[18:39] <brazila> http://paste.ubuntu.com/93831/
[18:39] <deamoon> ok lets try
[18:39] <brazila> uhsauhsauh only me is online
[18:39] <hyper_ch> deamoon: :)
[18:40] <brazila> there :S bah rsrsrs
[18:40] <hyper_ch> brazila: maybe #ubuntu-br
[18:40] <bazhang> !br
[18:40] <hyper_ch> brazila: I know the problem now
[18:40] <brazila> say it
[18:41] <hyper_ch> frostwire is possibly not in the repositories anymore
[18:41] <brazila> OH so i could try what?
[18:42] <deamoon> it is
[18:42] <hyper_ch> brazila: try amule:   sudo apt-get amule
[18:42] <hyper_ch> deamoon: what is?
[18:42] <deamoon> frostwire
[18:42] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you're on 8.04?
[18:42] <hyper_ch> deamoon: or 8.10?
[18:42] <deamoon> i think 810
[18:42] <deamoon> i got it trought apt get
[18:43] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I can't find any frostwire
[18:43] <deamoon> i cant c rtorrent in terminal
[18:43] <hyper_ch> deamoon: what can't you?
[18:43] <deamoon> w8 i check
[18:44] <brazila> but it isnt like run on windows that virus
[18:44] <Al_nZ> would someone be able to help me with vncserver? I have it running on ubuntu but cant connect to it from my XP box. Says connect failed?
[18:44] <brazila> come whith programs
[18:44] <Al_nZ> I dont think I have the right port open, but then again not even sure if a firewall is running, or the right port open?
[18:44] <deamoon> deamoon@deamoon-desctop:~$ aptitude search frostwire
[18:44] <deamoon> i   frostwire                       - A Truly Free and Open Source Peer to Peer
[18:45] <hyper_ch> deamoon: hmmm.... are you sure you're on 8.10?
[18:45] <hyper_ch> brazila: you can download it here:   http://www.getdeb.net/app/Frostwire
[18:45] <deamoon> how to check
[18:45] <jussi01> !versio
[18:45] <jussi01> !version
[18:45] <brazila> but i wont know install it downloading
[18:45] <eli_> hi guys
[18:45] <hyper_ch> deamoon: run:  lsb_release -a
[18:46] <Psychoholic> i'm having problems with amarok it keeps saying i don't have mp3 support but i installed the restriced drivers pack.
[18:46] <jussi01> hyper_ch: getdeb is not a trusted source ;)
[18:46] <eli_> i'm a newbie, and i need a help with setting my webcam.
[18:46] <deamoon> 8.10
[18:46] <brazila> it for website because im nub
[18:46] <hyper_ch> jussi01: :)
[18:46] <brazila> noob
[18:46] <Psychoholic> do i need to install one for amarok
[18:46] <hyper_ch> deamoon: strange... why isn't frostwire showing for me
[18:46] <deamoon> i dont know
[18:46] <deamoon> :D
[18:46] <deamoon> lol
[18:46] <hyper_ch> what repos have you got?
[18:46] <Psychoholic> it was working a few days ago then it just stoped
[18:46] <brazila> anyone?
[18:46] <deamoon> w8
[18:47] <eli_> i've failed to find some step by step instruction on the forum...
[18:47] <hyper_ch> can you paste bin   cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:47] <hyper_ch> deamoon: can you paste bin   cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:47] <v-dogg> the remote desktop client shipped with 8.10 (kde4) was a lot nicer than the one shipped with 8.04 (kde3.5). Is there a way to get that client for kde3.5?
[18:48] <hyper_ch> v-dogg: not really
[18:48] <v-dogg> bugger
[18:48] <deamoon> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com:80/93833/
[18:48] <jussi01> Al_nZ: install guarddog for firewall config. check that port 5900 is open.
[18:48] <v-dogg> I switched to 3.5 because it seems a lot stabbler
[18:49] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it's probably in the backports... I have not enabled that
[18:49] <deamoon> dunno
[18:49] <deamoon> u know better
[18:49] <deamoon> lol
[18:50] <hyper_ch> deamoon: nope... still not showing..hmmm
[18:50] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I'll check later why :)
[18:50] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so, you got the windows box ready
[18:50] <deamoon> yes
[18:50] <v-dogg> another thing. is there an terminal/ssh terminal that would make URLs clickable? I'm used to using (n|p)utty on windows :)
[18:50] <deamoon> it ready
[18:50] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and you already downloaded putty?
[18:50] <deamoon> yes
[18:50] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and you tried to connect?
[18:50] <deamoon> no
[18:50] <hyper_ch> deamoon: start putty
[18:51] <deamoon> allready
[18:51] <hyper_ch> deamoon: enter the (lan) ip of your linux box
[18:51] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and hit connect
[18:51] <deamoon> k
[18:51] <deamoon> 1 sec
[18:51] <hyper_ch> deamoon: (or whatever it says)
[18:52] <deamoon> i got nework error conecection refused
[18:53] <hyper_ch> deamoon: what IP did you enter?
[18:53] <deamoon> routers ip
[18:53] <hyper_ch> deamoon: no, that does not work
[18:53] <hyper_ch> deamoon: well, depends on the router ;)
[18:53] <deamoon> it says host name or ip address
[18:53] <hyper_ch> deamoon: but normally, if both are in the lan
[18:53] <hyper_ch> deamoon: then you need to enter the lan ip of the linux box
[18:54] <deamoon> ok
[18:54] <deamoon> done
[18:54] <deamoon> aske me for login
[18:54] <eli__> hi guys
[18:54] <hyper_ch> deamoon: enter your username (of the linux box)
[18:55] <eli__> i'm a newbie, and i need some help in configuring my webcam
[18:55] <hyper_ch> deamoon: then you'll be asked for the password
[18:55] <hyper_ch> deamoon: enter it (no charachters and stars will be displayed)
[18:55] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and hit enter
[18:55] <deamoon> what pasword?
[18:55] <hyper_ch> deamoon: your user account on the linux box
[18:55] <deamoon> oh
[18:55] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you login as user of the linux box
[18:56] <eli__> I've really tried to find some step-by-step guide into it, but I failed to find one that work for me,,,
[18:56] <deamoon> done
[18:56] <hyper_ch> deamoon: hence your username and password from there
[18:56] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so you're logged in?
[18:56] <deamoon> yes
[18:56] <eli__> Anyone is willing to help?
[18:56] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now, let's do some magic
[18:56] <deamoon> :D
[18:56] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you remember how to detach screen?
[18:56] <deamoon> creen -r
[18:56] <deamoon> ?
[18:56] <deamoon> screen
[18:56] <hyper_ch> deamoon: screen -d (to detach)
[18:56] <deamoon> oh
[18:56] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and   screen -r  to reattach
[18:57] <deamoon> so in linux terminal now
[18:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: doesn't matter if you try to reattach the screen
[18:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: while it's not detached... you'll just get an error then ;)
[18:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so, rtorrent and htop are still running?
[18:57] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now "from" the windows box?
[18:57] <deamoon> k
[18:58] <eli__> Hm, anyone?
[18:58] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so this works?
[18:58] <deamoon> yes
[18:58] <deamoon> i thinks so
[18:58] <hyper_ch> deamoon: good :)
[18:58] <deamoon> detached
[18:58] <deamoon> it
[18:59] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so, if you setup portforwarding on the router correctly, you can now login from work also
[18:59] <hyper_ch> deamoon: next is to download winscp --> http://www.winscp.com
[18:59] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it's free and open source software
[18:59] <deamoon> i  does work
[18:59] <deamoon> thats on win box
[18:59] <hyper_ch> deamoon: yes, that's on the windows box
[18:59] <eli__> hi guys, I need some help with my webcam.
[19:00] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it's like a ftp client - but works over a ssh connection
[19:00] <deamoon> ohh
[19:00] <hyper_ch> deamoon: pro: all the transferred packages are encrypted
[19:00] <hyper_ch> deamoon: con: it's a bit slower due to encryption and package overhead
[19:00] <hyper_ch> deamoon: pro: it works great and you only need to open one port to use ssh with putty and winscp :)
[19:00] <deamoon> but will mine parents be able to connectto it
[19:00] <deamoon> ?
[19:01] <hyper_ch> deamoon: they will also need need winscp and an account (or use your account)
[19:01] <deamoon> ok
[19:01] <deamoon> i sec than
[19:01] <hyper_ch> deamoon: but if you want setup with more people, you might be better off to setup a real ftp server
[19:02] <eli__> is anyone alive here?
[19:02] <hyper_ch> eli
[19:02] <deamoon> u mean another p?
[19:02] <deamoon> pc
[19:02] <hyper_ch> eli__: no clue... my webcam works out of the box
[19:02] <hyper_ch> deamoon: no, not another computer... just another "server" on the box you have now
[19:03] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ssh is also a "server"
[19:03] <deamoon> ok
[19:03] <hyper_ch> deamoon: a "server" in linux is just a program that waits to "server" something to someone that enters a request (e.g. like a webserver, ssh-server, ftp-server, ts2-server, vnc-server, .....)
[19:04] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it's confusing as dedicated boxes are also called servers
[19:04] <deamoon> ok
[19:04] <hyper_ch> deamoon: you got winscp?
[19:04] <deamoon> i need it just on win box?
[19:04] <deamoon> or on linux
[19:04] <hyper_ch> deamoon: yes
[19:04] <deamoon> k
[19:05] <hyper_ch> deamoon: just windows
[19:05] <hyper_ch> deamoon: on the linux box you already have the ssh-server running
[19:06] <deamoon> user interface must be
[19:06] <deamoon> ?
[19:07] <deamoon> explorer or norton comander
[19:07] <deamoon> ?
[19:07] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I prefer norton commander
[19:07] <hyper_ch> deamoon: this will give a 2-pane window
[19:08] <hyper_ch> deamoon: where one pane is the "remote" and one the "local" view
[19:08] <deamoon> ok done
[19:08] <hyper_ch> deamoon: now try to connect
[19:09] <deamoon> same as on putty?
[19:09] <hyper_ch> deamoon: yes
[19:09] <eli__> hi guys, is anyone willing to help me with a webcam configuration?
[19:10] <deamoon> ok done
[19:10] <hyper_ch> deamoon: :) should be simple to use, right?
[19:10] <elitrou> hi guys, is anyone willing to help me with a webcam configuration?
[19:10] <hyper_ch> !patience
[19:10] <deamoon> ohh yes
[19:10] <deamoon> u know i was looking for this
[19:10] <deamoon> for ages
[19:11] <deamoon> itssso good no
[19:11] <hyper_ch> deamoon: well, now I generally don't trust other users
[19:11] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so I don't give out my account details - not even to my parents
[19:11] <deamoon> xexexe
[19:11] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so I use MySecureShell
[19:11] <deamoon> how to greate accounts
[19:11] <deamoon> ?
[19:12] <hyper_ch> deamoon: have a look at that:   http://www.howtoforge.com/mysecureshell_sftp_debian_etch
[19:12] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it works also for ubuntu
[19:12] <hyper_ch> deamoon: nad I think mysecureshell is in the repos
[19:12] <player775> hello.. can anyone give list with graphics card supported in latest kubuntu ?
[19:13] <hyper_ch> deamoon: so basically for other users I make a seperate account, make a common "home" folder for them and restrict them with mysecureshell
[19:13] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it's too much right now to explain that
[19:13] <hyper_ch> deamoon: just have a look at that howto and explore it a bit :)
[19:13] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I'm sure you can find uot
[19:14] <deamoon> ok
[19:14] <deamoon> i c
[19:14] <deamoon> im so excited
[19:14] <hyper_ch> deamoon: :)
[19:14] <hyper_ch> deamoon: well, you remember when we set the maximum upload in rtorrent?
[19:14] <deamoon> yes
[19:15] <deamoon> i thinks so
[19:15] <hyper_ch> deamoon: well, generally it's adviced to set it to 80-90% of your amx upload
[19:15] <deamoon> lol
[19:15] <hyper_ch> deamoon: as you have 2.5mbit you could go to 90%
[19:15] <hyper_ch> deamoon: right now it's set to 80%
[19:15] <deamoon> ok
[19:15] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it's up to you on how you want to tweak it
[19:15] <hyper_ch> deamoon: leave it at 80% now and see how it goes :)
[19:15] <deamoon> i need to edit that file
[19:16] <deamoon> k
[19:16] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and if you are using private torrent trackers (which are evil IMHO) then disable DHT
[19:16] <deamoon> ye i need that
[19:16] <hyper_ch> deamoon: as DHT will render the whole private tracker thing useless
[19:16] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it's all in the .rtorrent.rc config :)
[19:18] <deamoon> so i just need to write desible
[19:18] <deamoon> dht
[19:18] <hyper_ch> deamoon: yes ....
[19:18] <deamoon> write me full command plz
[19:18] <deamoon> to open taht
[19:19] <deamoon> plz
[19:19] <hyper_ch> dht = off
[19:19] <deamoon> .rtorrent.rc config
[19:19] <hyper_ch> deamoon: just change   dht = auto   to    dht = off
[19:19] <deamoon> ok
[19:19] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and restart rtorrent
[19:19] <deamoon> but to pen this .rtorrent.rc config
[19:20] <deamoon> lol
[19:20] <hyper_ch> deamoon: kate ~/.rtorrent.rc
[19:20] <deamoon> ty
[19:20] <hyper_ch> deamoon: it's a hidden file because it start with a .
[19:21] <hyper_ch> deamoon: well, good luck with rtorrent :) it's quite powerfull if you use it a bit
[19:21] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and very good on memory usage
[19:22] <cuniceta> ciao
[19:22] <deamoon> yee
[19:22] <deamoon> ty very much fella
[19:22] <hyper_ch> deamoon: I hope you have bookmarked the few pages I gave you before?
[19:22] <deamoon> that ftp is a miracle for me
[19:22] <deamoon> all of them mate
[19:22] <deamoon> all
[19:23] <deamoon> 1 more thing
[19:23] <hyper_ch> deamoon: yes?
[19:23] <hyper_ch> deamoon: to to close screen?
[19:23] <deamoon> how can i make firefox be as primary web browser
[19:24] <hyper_ch> deamoon: KMenu --> applications --> system --> system settings
[19:24] <deamoon> cos i geting konquerer opening all windows
[19:24] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and then "default applications"
[19:24] <hyper_ch> deamoon: select "web browser" and then select
[19:24] <hyper_ch> deamoon: "in the following browser" and enter:   firefox
[19:25] <deamoon> ok ty
[19:25] <hyper_ch> deamoon: found it?
[19:25] <deamoon> got to look at it cos is diferent
[19:26] <hyper_ch> deamoon: are you in the system settings?
[19:26] <deamoon> yes
[19:26] <hyper_ch> in the "general" tab
[19:26] <hyper_ch> the second row "Personal"
[19:26] <deamoon> when u click on web browser
[19:26] <hyper_ch> deamoon: ok, what then?
[19:27] <deamoon> theres 2 options
[19:27] <hyper_ch> deamoon: select the lower one
[19:27] <hyper_ch> deamoon: where you can type "firefox" in it
[19:27] <deamoon> ohh
[19:27] <deamoon> im so dumb
[19:27] <hyper_ch> ^^
[19:28] <deamoon> lets test it
[19:28] <hyper_ch> deamoon: and then of course press "apply"
[19:28] <deamoon> yes
[19:28] <deamoon> yes
[19:28] <hyper_ch> ^^
[19:29] <deamoon> ok
[19:29] <hyper_ch> enjoy :)
[19:29] <deamoon> ty wery much
[19:40] <runpain2> how do I do the Option "NoLogo" "True" in xorg.conf
[19:42] <crimsun> runpain2: for which video driver?
[19:42] <runpain2> nvidia
[19:42] <crimsun> runpain2: you have to create the appropriate stanzas, then
[19:42] <runpain2> greek to me
[19:43] <runpain2> can you pm me step by step please
[19:43] <crimsun> i'm just waiting on pastebin
[19:44] <runpain2> thanks crimsun
[19:45] <crimsun> runpain2: see http://pastebin.ca/1294588
[19:47] <runpain2> crimsun,  do i add this to the xorg.conf
[19:48] <runpain2> and how do i do that i am a noobe
[19:49] <luisfsm> holaaaaaaaaaa
[19:55] <crimsun> runpain2: I gave you my entire xorg.conf
[19:55] <crimsun> runpain2: you likely don't need the extra options that i have
[19:55] <crimsun> runpain2: but that's the syntax
[19:58] <runpain2> ok thanks will try that Section "Device" Identifier"Configured Video Device" Boardname	"NVIDIA GeForce 7 Series" Busid	"PCI:0:18:0"Driver "nvidia" Screen 0 Vendorname "NVIDIA"
[19:59] <runpain2> see i have the geforce 7 series
[20:02] <runpain2> brb
[20:03] <snarkster> how do you configure firefox for itmss protocol?
[20:03] <snarkster> !itmss
[20:04] <snarkster> anyone know anything about itmss?
[20:05] <jone_> I just installed kubuntu 6.10, and I want to upgrade to the latest version.. I am having trouble making apt-get update work, I get loads of errors like 404 and such when I try
[20:05] <jone_> also Adept doesn't show any upgrade possibilities
[20:05] <snarkster> your trying ti upgrade to old a version
[20:06] <snarkster> there are some changes you need to make, but sorry Im not sure which ones you need to make
[20:06] <snarkster> !upgrade
[20:06] <Dr_Willis_AAO> 6.10?   You Might want to go download a newer release --  Unless that was a typo ... :)
[20:06] <runpain2> crimsum that work i just added the options line no logo  true and when i booted  up no logo
[20:07] <snarkster> or read that page ubottu just showed
[20:07] <runpain2> Thanks for showing me that little trick
[20:07] <snarkster> no logo?? howto
[20:09] <Dr_Willis_AAO> i alwyas enable the nvidia logo :) i want to see it.. to be sure my drivers are being used
[20:10] <jone_> yes it was 6.10 unfortunately
[20:10] <snarkster> oh.. nvidia logo.
[20:10] <snarkster> jone follow that link ubottu posted and it will help you
[20:10] <snarkster> just so you know ahead of time you have to upgrade several times
[20:11] <Dr_Willis_AAO> jone_,  you are going to be llooking at like.. err.. several 100+mb of updates..  sort of like downloading each install cd, over agbain.
[20:11] <jone_> likely to get messy?
[20:11] <snarkster> no not really.. just take some time
[20:11] <jone_> just having issues with the cd burner
[20:11] <Dr_Willis_AAO> jone_,  i would STRONGLY suggest getting a newer iso/release issue.  You can make a bootable/install able thimbdrive with 'unetbootin'
[20:11] <Dr_Willis_AAO> No cd needed :)
[20:11] <snarkster> right well there are several ways to just use an iso and a usb flash drive
[20:12] <jone_> isn't the usb flash drives tricky as hell?
[20:12] <Dr_Willis_AAO> jone_,  run unetbootin, point it to the iso , clock go....
[20:12] <Dr_Willis_AAO> click go...
[20:12] <Dr_Willis_AAO> :)
[20:12] <Dr_Willis_AAO> wait a few min.. poof. bootable usb thumbdrive
[20:13] <snarkster> oh no!!! I use mine all the time to assist people in recovery issues.
[20:13] <snarkster> i created mine from pendrivelinux.com
[20:13] <jone_> the javascript on kubuntu.com is causing my konqueror to hang :/
[20:13] <Dr_Willis_AAO> i got a 4gb thumbdrive with persistant storage - made via the usb-boot-media tool in 8.10
[20:13] <jone_> but ok, thanks a lot, I will download a new release now
[20:13] <snarkster> Dr_Willis_AAO Awesome
[20:14] <snarkster> jone good luck
[20:14] <jone_> thanks all of you :)
[20:14] <runpain2> laters folks
[20:14] <snarkster> jone somebody will be here if you need help
[20:17] <snarkster> how do you force logoff a user through a SSH connection?
[20:17] <Dr_Willis_AAO> snarkster,  kill their shells is one way :)
[20:17] <snarkster> i want to update my sons machine but it says that someone else is using the update process..
[20:18] <snarkster> I dont see any adept or synaptic processes in the pgrep
[20:18] <Dr_Willis_AAO> snarkster,   f may be easier to just make machine reboot.
[20:18] <snarkster> true
[20:18] <snarkster> but if he is updating then that will screw up the update
[20:19] <Dr_Willis_AAO> ask him eot look at the screen i guess and see whats running?
[20:19] <Dr_Willis_AAO> if no processes are running - it maybe a bad lock file. or somthing
[20:19] <snarkster> true
[20:20] <snarkster> but then again its his machine and I could just not worry bout it. :)
[20:21] <snarkster> OT wow it was cold last night
[20:21] <Dr_Willis_AAO> i find ubuntu  rather stable in that stuff. :) perhaps a sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a'  might be needed later.. perhaps not.. hard to tell
[20:27] <jussi01> !aptfix | snarkster
[20:36] <White_Pelican>  in 4.2 beta 2 for Intrepid, I seem to have lost my icon that says there are software updates available. How do I get that back?
[20:41] <lamer> abend
[20:46] <CTShadow> in konqueror, my menu-bar (where file, edit, ... are located) is gone. how do i get it back?
[20:46] <SSJ_GZ> CTShadow: ctrl + m
[20:49] <CTShadow> SSJ_GZ: thanks, you saved my day ;)
[20:49] <SSJ_GZ> Hehe :)
[20:49] <jenni_more> ola
[20:49] <Schuenemann> What package do I need to get mkinitrd?
[20:50] <martijn81> will 9.04 come with ext4 filesystem?
[20:53] <yosh_> Salut
[20:53] <martijn81> hi yosh_
[20:54] <yosh_> J'ai un léger problème avec KDE, je n'arrive pas à me connecter sur Internet avec le Wi-fi.
[20:54] <martijn81> !france
[20:54] <yosh_> Oops, I'm sorry.
[20:56] <Schuenemann> What package do I need to get mkinitrd?
[20:57] <Metalman> need help
[20:57] <martijn81> Metalman: just tell
[20:59] <Metalman> just installed edubuntu and cant change the ubuntu desktop
[20:59] <Metalman> hardy ubuntu
[20:59] <martijn81> Metalman: and what if you reload X?
[20:59] <martijn81> crtl+alt+backspace
[21:00] <osman> #ZURNA
[21:00] <Metalman> i installed conpiz and nothing
[21:01] <martijn81> Metalman: you should be able to tell you GDM to choose edubuntu
[21:01] <martijn81> your
[21:04] <Pete21> Hi
[21:04] <Pete21> I have installed kdevelop on ubuntu 8.10
[21:04] <Pete21> and the konsole is not enabled, it's just a gray area
[21:05] <cuznt> !kdevelop
[21:05] <Pete21> seems like several people are having this issue as well, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6425236
[21:05] <cuznt> !kdevelope
[21:05] <cuznt> dont worry
[21:05] <cuznt> they will fix it
[21:06] <Pete21> Do anyone know how to solve it?
[21:11] <metalman1673> need help
[21:12] <metalman1673> need help with hardy ubuntu
[21:12] <martijn81> Metalman: you should be able to tell your GDM to choose edubuntu
[21:13] <metalman1673> how to that
[21:14] <metalman1673> how do i do that
[21:14] <martijn81> metalman1673: you can choose from your DesktopManager
[21:15] <martijn81> just pull some menu's (i do not know the names of it)
[21:16] <metalman1673> dont have desktop manager
[21:16] <metalman1673> how to install it
[21:17] <martijn81> you probably have, you will get there once you do ctrl+alt+backspace
[21:19] <metalman1673> i did the ctrl+alt+backspace and all it was turn off
[21:19] <floh> Hi, which directory are the firmware for b43 stored?
[21:19] <martijn81> metalman1673: then choose log out there
[21:20] <martijn81> you should get on the DM then
[21:20] <metalman1673> i loged back in and nothing
[21:20] <metalman1673> how can i install the DM
[21:28] <Styx993> hello
[21:28] <Styx993> is there any reason why linux would refuse to connect when kde isnt running?
[21:30] <Evolution2> i just got yakuake 2.9.4 from the kde apps but the version on the sources is only 2.9.3. there seem to be no config file in folder. any help is appreciated
[21:32] <ubuntu_> hello
[21:36] <ert3> Hey I tried to install 8.04 over 8.10
[21:36] <ert3> and for some reason I still have 8.10
[21:36] <Evolution2> you cant degrade
[21:36] <Evolution2> unless you delete the partition conpletely
[21:45] <jone_> "A write error occured" - Goddamnit it never works when I try to burn cd's with K3b (I guess it's a hardware problem)
[21:46] <Evolution2> jone_: i think so
[21:46] <jone_> and when I installed UNetbootin from a .deb file i have no idea how to start it
[21:53] <ert3> So if I where to manually make the partitions that would remove the old ones so I could down grade?
[21:53] <Evolution2> right
[21:53] <Evolution2> pop in a live ubuntu live cd
[21:53] <ert3> cant
[21:54] <ert3> less than 384
[21:54] <Evolution2> oh
[21:54] <Evolution2> hmm
[21:54] <Evolution2> thats a problem
[21:54] <ert3> I told the alt install CD to do a guided partitioning
[21:54] <Evolution2> hmm
[21:54] <Evolution2> i was gonna suggest partition editor
[21:55] <Evolution2> remove it and reinstall with the older version live cs
[21:55] <Evolution2> cd
[21:55] <ert3> hmmm
[21:55] <ert3> I could boot up
[21:55] <ert3> manually delete all partitions
[21:55] <ert3> reboot
[21:55] <ert3> do it again to be doubly sure
[21:55] <ert3> then install
[21:56] <Evolution2> yea
[21:57] <ert3> or I could just go DOD on the fucker and 7 pass rape the drive
[21:57] <ert3> that would get it clean
[21:58] <Evolution2> i dont know about that
[21:58] <Evolution2> but i would suggest the first idea
[21:59] <jussi01> !ohmy | ert3
[22:00] <HappySmileMan> Anyone here use KDevelop yet? I'm building it now, was wondering how stable it is
[22:00] <HappySmileMan> Though I guess I can find out soon enough anyway
[22:02] <snarkster> jone: it should be in settings
[22:02] <snarkster> jone sorry my bad its under system
[22:04] <snarkster> jone did you find it?
[22:11] <snarkster> jone_ please to install usb-creator this will create an installable usb flash drive disk
[22:11] <linux__> oi
[22:13] <snarkster> oi
[22:13] <linux__> oi
[22:14] <jussi01> linux__: can we help you with something?
[22:16] <jone> I installed 6.10 because I only had a very old CD - Now I am unable to burn a new CD because of hardware issues, is there any way to start installation from 6.10 by mounting the ISO file of the 8.10 version?
[22:16] <hyper_ch> no
[22:19] <hyper_ch> jone: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/
[22:19] <hyper_ch> but it's not supported anymore
[22:19] <jone> what do you mean? i just want to upgrade
[22:20] <jone> or rather, just install 8.10
[22:20] <PuRA> oi
[22:20] <jone> I heard upgrading from 6.10 to 8.10 would be a pain
[22:20] <hyper_ch> jone: ah, you don't want to reinstall 6.10
[22:20] <jone> I am unable to burn a new cd from this computer, and when I burn from a different computer (also different brand), it appears as an "empty cd" in the drive
[22:20] <p_quarles> jone: it would be impossible at this point
[22:21] <hyper_ch> jone: do you have a usb pendrive?
[22:21] <p_quarles> jone: if you can't burn a CD, you'll need to look into an alternative way of getting it
[22:21] <snarkster> do you have a flash drive?
[22:21] <p_quarles> jone: if a friend can burna CD for you, that would be great; otherwise, a flash drive, a network boot (would require another computer) or you'll have to request a CD from Canonical
[22:22] <jone> Yes I have a flash drive, and yes I installed Unetbootin or what it was called.. but when I choose it during startup I get weird behaviour.. the screen starts flickering and the first options dialog is scrolling through the monitor in an intense speed (impossible to read what the options are)
[22:22] <PuRA> ny brasilians?
[22:22] <jone> I have several other computers available
[22:22] <p_quarles> !br | PuRA
[22:22] <hyper_ch> jone: PXE could also be an option
[22:22] <hyper_ch> jone: but that depends on the computer you try to install to
[22:23] <snarkster> jone you can use a 1 gig flash drive to create a installable install
[22:23] <PuRA> #urubuntu-br
[22:23] <PuRA> ok?
[22:23] <p_quarles> PuRA: type /join #ubuntu-br
[22:23] <snarkster> or you can download the iso of 8.10 and then goto pendrivelinux.com to learn how to create a installable flashdrive that way
[22:24] <snarkster> or install usb-creator to create a installable flash drive
[22:26] <hyper_ch> jone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[22:27] <jone> hyper_ch: that looked interesting, thanks
[22:28] <hyper_ch> jone: or a step back:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[22:32] <snarkster> or very complex..
[22:32] <snarkster> usb creator will work easily and only uses a 1 gig flash drive that if your computer can boot from usb will allow you to install
[23:13] <emma> any ideas how to get knetworkmanager to actually connect to a signal that it sees?
[23:14] <emma> i have an UNSECURED wifi here in the house, kubuntu sees it, but i can't make anything connect.
[23:14] <emma> is there perhaps a way to do this with a cli tool or something?
[23:15] <cllaudyu> can someone help me with Konversation how can i add another irc server to it?
[23:16] <xjjk> emma: AFAIK, no
[23:16] <cllaudyu> and how can i save it
[23:16] <xjjk> cllaudyu: should be easy... what are you having problems with?
[23:16] <HappySmileMan> cllaudyu: File > Server List > New...
[23:16] <emma> there must be a way to connect to a wifi signal without a gui
[23:16] <emma> iwconfig maybe?
[23:16] <xjjk> emma: well, yes, but with knetworkmanager
[23:16] <xjjk> or network manager in general
[23:16] <emma> is knetworkmanager just broken in kubuntu then?
[23:16] <cllaudyu> first i want to find out how to send a messange to a nickname on main chat
[23:17] <xjjk> emma: not likely... it's probably something characteristic to that wifi network/your machine
[23:17] <cllaudyu> i don't want to write a nick every time
[23:17] <crimsun> emma: sure, you can use iwconfig (from wireless-tools) or wpasupplicant
[23:17] <crimsun> emma: does knetworkmanager spit out any debug info/
[23:18] <emma> well this signal is not secured. and knetworkmanager DOES see it there, it shows the ESSID and strong signal but there is no indication of how to connect.
[23:18] <xjjk> emma: er, click the menu entry?
[23:18] <xjjk> what happens when you try to select it
[23:18] <cllaudyu> what is Bookmarks for in Konversation? it saves the irc channel?
[23:18] <emma> what do you mean click the main entry?
[23:18] <emma> when i select it, nothing happens.
[23:18] <xjjk> check for debug info..
[23:19] <xjjk> usually in /var/log/messages or syslog
[23:19] <emma> it's just about the most outrageous thing i've seen.
[23:20] <Guest80251> eagles0513875: not to bad for a pIII
[23:21] <crimsun> emma: tried `tail -F /var/log/daemon.log' in a separate Konsole simultaneously?
[23:21] <emma> i'll give it another chance but i think it's pretty hopeless.
[23:22] <emma> the difficult thing is, i'm dual booting here so i'm using windows to chat with you now. Whatever advice you give I have to restart and try it in kubuntu.
[23:22] <xjjk> ugh
[23:22] <emma> and if it doesn't work i have to restart and boot all over again to come back here.
[23:22] <emma> so it sounds like 'try to find bug report'
[23:23] <xjjk> emma: thanks for mentioning... you probably want to try to find a few different ways to get online
[23:23] <xjjk> and try to fix within linux rather than rebooting all the time
[23:23] <crimsun> i recommend virtualbox + kubuntu
[23:23] <emma> there's no way.
[23:23] <xjjk> emma: how do you know...
[23:23] <xjjk> have you tried connecting via the CLI/raw wpa_supplicant?
[23:23] <xjjk> I actually use wpa_supplicant myself... knetworkmanager isn't there for me yet
[23:24] <cllaudyu> it's surprising for me to see everything working fine without crashes
[23:24] <xjjk> emma: setting up wpa_supplicant is a bit of a headache, though
[23:25] <crimsun> using iwconfig is fairly painless, however.
[23:25] <cllaudyu> i spoked to soon A Fatal Error Occurred
[23:25] <xjjk> mm, yah, it's a network without any encryption/auth, correct emma?
[23:25] <cllaudyu> The application Plasma Workspace (plasma) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV).
[23:26]  * xjjk continues to use KDE 3.5.9 in hardy waiting for KDE 4.2
[23:26] <cllaudyu> Sysinfo for 'kubuntu': Linux 2.6.27-9-generic running KDE 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3), CPU: AMDAthlonXP2000+ at 1661 MHz (3323 bogomips), HD: 2/8GB, RAM: 205/248MB, 114 proc's, 18.47min up
[23:26] <jone> I followed the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux - (did it manually) and it worked fine, booted the installer, but when I choose where I want it installed, the original sda disk is gone, so i am unable to install it to /dev/sda1
[23:28] <jone> but it is visible in /proc/partitions
[23:28] <emma> xjjk: yes no security
[23:29] <xjjk> emma: the braindead way to connect with iwconfig (not robust)
[23:29] <xjjk> exit knetworkmanager
[23:29] <xjjk> sudo iwconfig # check what your wireless if is
[23:29] <xjjk> sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "your essid" # if wlan0 was your wireless interface
[23:29] <emma> that sounds like it's workable.
[23:30] <xjjk> sudo dhclient wlan0 # fetch IP via DHCP, if using DHCP
[23:30] <emma> put the essid in quotes?
[23:30] <xjjk> this isn't robust at all, and it not working does not mean you cannot get it to work
[23:30] <xjjk> if the essid contains a space, yes
[23:30] <emma> it does not.
[23:30] <xjjk> without quotes is fine
[23:31] <emma> i'll try iwconfig
[23:31] <xjjk> emma: if you want to go the wpa_supplicant route...
[23:31] <xjjk> emma: hold
[23:31] <emma> okay
[23:32] <xjjk> emma: so, Debian/Ubuntu have a networking mode called wireless roaming
[23:32] <xjjk> you configure it all via text files
[23:32] <xjjk> and it uses wpa_supplicant, no GUI
[23:32] <xjjk> not that you need one...
[23:32] <xjjk> if you've a new network, you add to a config file
[23:33] <xjjk> and wpa_supplicant automatically connects if in range
[23:33] <emma> knetworkmanager needs to be fixed.
[23:33] <xjjk> eh it needs to be made more reliable
[23:33] <xjjk> and report errors
[23:33] <xjjk> not that Windows or OS X are any better
[23:34] <xjjk> you'll get an error "can't connect" but usually there's little you can do about it
[23:35] <xjjk> emma: see /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz
[23:35] <xjjk> read the details on setting up "roaming mode"
[23:35] <SJr|Nbook> Is there some reason I get an error "Invalid Argument 'Ad-Hoc'" error when I try to issue iwconfig ath0 mode Ad-Hoc
[23:36] <xjjk> SJr|Nbook: the atheros driver is a PITA, and does stuff differently
[23:36] <SJr|Nbook> Ah
[23:36] <xjjk> the error is self-explanatory... the driver doesnt support ad-hoc model like that
[23:36] <SJr|Nbook> what should I do?
[23:36] <xjjk> there's this other way to do it, not via iwconfig
[23:36] <xjjk> see madwifi's website
[23:37] <SJr|Nbook> Should I try and use the ndiswrapper?
[23:37] <xjjk> I've never used ndiswrapper myself but stories tell me no, avoid it if you can
[23:37] <xjjk> linux-native drivers will almost always be better
[23:38] <jone> Could anyone see screenshot? http://skittent.net/~enoj/kubuntu-installer.png - Trying to install Kubuntu using these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux ( got partition where I placed the contents from the cd and edited grub to boot from this partition (booting from partition is (0,4)) - sda1 never appears in the install to the right in the screenshot
[23:39] <SJr|Nbook> thanks xjjk
[23:39] <Hydrant2> Hello all... strange issue with Kubuntu 8.10... when I put in a CD, isn't it supposed to come up with a menu of actions?
[23:39] <Hydrant2> it doesn't for me on this install, and I think I might be missing a package or something is wrong
[23:42] <venom_> c'est fr ici
[23:42] <SJr|Nbook> xjjk is there something else I need to do to be able to see the ad-hoc network after it's up as adhoc
[23:42] <genii-around> venom_: Non.  #kubuntu-fr
[23:42] <venom_> lol
[23:42] <xjjk> SJr|Nbook: don't think so... I haven't done this in a long time
[23:42] <venom_> tu comprend bien le français pour un us
[23:43] <SJr|Nbook> Hmmmm maybe I'll try this in windows first
[23:43] <xjjk> you followed all the instructions on the madwifi website right?
[23:43] <SJr|Nbook> Yeah
[23:43] <SJr|Nbook> it's up
[23:43] <genii-around> venom_: Canadian
[23:43] <SJr|Nbook> but it's not broadcasting
[23:43] <SJr|Nbook> and I can't join it.
[23:43] <venom_> tu connais pas moobu par azard
[23:44] <genii-around> venom_: English only here svp
[23:44] <xjjk> SJr|Nbook: don't think I can help you with that... check madwifi's support?
[23:45] <Roey> hi
[23:45] <Roey> question
[23:45] <Roey> I can't get sound working after I rebooted.  I get this:  http://pastebin.com/m77920f82.  What's the issue, does anyone know?
[23:46] <venom_> hum pas facille , ho to the install Moobu ?
[23:46] <chop> hi
[23:47] <Roey> hiiiiii
[23:47] <crimsun> sudo fuser -v /dev/snd/*
[23:47] <crimsun> pastebin the output
[23:47] <willy> whats a good programe for yahoo
[23:47] <crimsun> willy: meaning chat? try kopete.
[23:48] <willy> i got  friend in yahoo
[23:48] <willy> and i need a good programe
[23:48] <Roey> crimsun:  heya!
[23:48] <willy> is that with  voice
[23:49] <kid> hi all
[23:49] <Roey> crimsun:  http://pastebin.com/m4814d30c
[23:49] <Roey> crimsun:  yeah I did that before, had no idea what to kill
[23:50] <crimsun> Roey: sudo pkill timidity
[23:50] <Roey> I tried.
[23:50] <Roey> one sec.
[23:50] <Roey> still no go, crimsun
[23:50] <metalman1673> how can i change from the gome desktop to the kde desktop??????
[23:50] <Roey> brb
[23:51] <crimsun> Roey: what are you testing to determine "no go"?
[23:51] <metalman1673> can anyone give me a hand
[23:51] <crimsun> metalman1673: did you install kubuntu-desktop ?
[23:52] <emma> im back.
[23:52] <xjjk> emma: how'd it go?
[23:52] <emma> xjjk -- i wsa just over to kubuntu again, when i did sudo iwconfig it did not list any valid signals.
[23:52] <xjjk> emma: it did not list any network interfaces
[23:53] <xjjk> ?
[23:53] <crimsun> you don't need to wait til it's listed if you know the essid
[23:53] <emma> xjjk: yeah not really.
[23:53] <emma> but it's eth1
[23:53] <xjjk> emma: that's odd..
[23:53] <xjjk> oh, well OK
[23:53] <xjjk> did the rest of the steps work?
[23:54] <emma> its eth1 i can tell that from knetwork manager which does find the signal and even shows that it's strong but then the icon never lights up and says it's disconnected.
[23:54] <emma> kjjk no they did nothing.
[23:54] <Roey> crimsun:  mpg123
[23:54] <xjjk> emma: what did trying to get an IP via DHCP do?
[23:54] <xjjk> time outs?
[23:54] <xjjk> you should get errors
[23:55] <xjjk> if something is wrong
[23:55] <emma> i didn't try that, i don't remember what to do there.
[23:55] <crimsun> Roey: did you actually kill timidity?
[23:55] <xjjk> emma: it was the last line I gave you, sudo dhclient eth1
[23:55] <crimsun> Roey: i.e., do you need to sudo /etc/init.d/timidity stop ?
[23:55] <Roey> yes
[23:55] <Roey> yes and mpg123 still gives me those errors
[23:55] <emma> xjjk, just sudo dhclient eth1 ?
[23:56] <xjjk> emma: yes
[23:56] <daz_> Hi everyone. I want to use rdiff-backup, and I was just wondering if, as well as replacing changed/removed files, it removes file that weren't originally backed up (like a system restore point)
[23:56] <willy> hey any good yahoo programes to chat
[23:56] <xjjk> emma: without having run that, you'd not have an IP address
[23:56] <Roey> hey emma
[23:56] <emma> anything else i should type there because every time i try i have to reboot twice.
[23:56] <xjjk> the iwconfig step only associates with a wireless network
[23:56] <metalman1673> how can i change from gome to kde
[23:56] <xjjk> emma: just to recap...
[23:56] <Hydrant2> when people here put in a CD, does it pop up a menu like in KDE 3 for them (on Intrepid) ?
[23:57] <xjjk> sudo iwconfig eth2 essid "your essid"
[23:57] <emma> but it's eth1 isn't it>
[23:57] <xjjk> sudo iwconfig eth2 # make sure eth2 it using that essid (may not necessarily be connected)
[23:57] <xjjk> er, sorry, eth1
[23:57] <xjjk> sudo dhclient eth1
[23:57] <xjjk> to get an IP
[23:57] <emma> in that order?
[23:57] <xjjk> you should have Internet access after that
[23:57] <xjjk> yes
[23:57] <daz_> metalman1673: Do you want to completely ditch Gnome, or have both Gnome AND KDE available?
[23:57] <emma> okay.
[23:57] <xjjk> err, blah, and make sure you exit knetworkmanager
[23:57] <emma> i'm going to write it down in pencil.
[23:57] <xjjk> before doing any of this
[23:58] <willy>     here dude              http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[23:58] <xjjk> (1) turn off knetworkmanager (2) sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "your essid" (3) sudo dhclient eth1
[23:58] <xjjk> that is the minimum
[23:58] <willy> its tell u how to do it
[23:58] <Roey> crimsun:  yes and mpg123 still gives me those errors
[23:59] <crimsun> Roey: is timidity still running, though?
[23:59] <crimsun> Roey: you'll continue to get those errors if timidity is running.
[23:59] <willy> does any 1 know what a good programe to run on yahoo