[00:08] <Flannel> !recovery
[00:08] <Flannel> Do we not have any more information?  What does that do actually?
[01:19] <elkeee> why does offtopic have a 'robot roll call' in the topic? are we encouraging bots now or something equally stupid?
[01:20] <Pici> elkeee: Have you not seen Mystery Science Theater 3000?
[01:20] <Pici> Its from the show... but I'll change it if its confusing.
[01:21]  * Pici fires up fortune -s
[01:21] <elkeee> i have not, no
[01:30] <Pici> Ah, found something that made me chuckle.
[03:25] <Flannel> Mmmm, -ot
[03:26] <Flannel> Anyone awake with -ot stuffs?  He's coming back
[07:08] <Mez> ?
[07:09] <PriceChild> Mez: almost 4 hours ago.
[07:09] <Mez> oops ;)
[07:09] <nickrud> ah, just the guy I need
[07:09] <nickrud> PriceChild, what's with this ubuntu-ops user I just was informed about? How/when should we use it?
[07:10] <PriceChild> nickrud: how were you informed about it?
[07:10] <nickrud> PriceChild, in a memo from ljl
[07:10] <PriceChild> nickrud: timestamp?
[07:11] <nickrud> hm, don't have that anymore. I saved the info on the 12th
[07:11] <nickrud> it's functional, I tested that today.
[07:11] <PriceChild> functional?
[07:11] <nickrud> I was recognized with the password I was given
[07:12] <nickrud> that's as far as I took it, just logged back off
[07:12]  * Mez hasnt been given a password :D
[07:12] <PriceChild> It doesn't appear to have any special access anywhere afaik.
[07:12] <PriceChild> Well I haven't heard of it having any anyway.
[07:13] <nickrud> if it's not to be in my hands, that's fine and dandy. I understood it was to be given access by loco admins as they chose, but I'm fuzzy otherwise
[07:13] <PriceChild> ahh ok
[07:13] <PriceChild> I've probably lost an email again sorry.
[07:14] <nickrud> ok, sometime in the next few weeks/months I'm sure it'll get sorted ;)
[07:15] <PriceChild> nickrud: dude its Christmas, get off of irc!
[07:15] <Mez> PriceChild: not anymore :D
[07:15] <nickrud> nah, day after. I had a rough day at work, I'm unwinding by teasing #ubuntu :)
[07:15]  * Mez had to work over christmas :D
[07:16] <nickrud> lucky man. We took christmas off, but I had the whole darned office load by myself today. 
[08:48] <bazhang> nickrud, how did you get that user working?
[08:49] <bazhang> would have been handy in -ot the the last couple of days with the influx of ban-evaders/stalkers
[12:13] <elkeee> hrm, myrtti still hiding from irc?
[12:14] <jpds> She was here yesterday.
[12:17] <Tm_T> elkeee: mostly still in vacation yes
[12:17] <Tm_T> elkeee: if any urgent thing, I can give her a call
[12:19] <elkeee> Tm_T, nah, i just miss her
[12:19] <elkeee> and she's on jaiku if anything is so desperate
[12:23] <Tm_T> heh
[12:23] <Tm_T> we all miss her
[12:25] <Tm_T> awwww, so beautiful when sleeping
[12:25]  * Tm_T <3 Ronja
[12:38] <elkeee> ronja being?
[12:38] <elkeee> the baby or the missus?
[12:39] <Tm_T> Baby
[12:41] <elkeee> it's a sweet name :)
[12:41] <Tm_T> indeed
[12:42] <topyli> makes you a robber! :)
[12:42] <Tm_T> topyli: I am
[12:42] <topyli> ooh i'm sure i'm the first to say that too :\
[12:42] <Tm_T> topyli: actually her second name consists Jussintytär
[12:42] <topyli> sweet!
[12:42] <Tm_T> second names
[12:45] <topyli> my brain is smoking while trying to figure that out
[12:45] <Tm_T> good
[14:21] <bazhang> Amblnb, how may we help you
[14:23] <Amblnb> bazhang @: А фиг ево сказали сюда зайти чтоб #ubuntu-ua  ожывить ))
[14:23] <bazhang> Amblnb, #ubuntu-irc please
[14:23] <bazhang> Amblnb, please /part this channel
[14:25] <bazhang> * [eleos2] (n=chatzill@athedsl-4406484.home.otenet.gr): New Now Know How sken is unbanned? ikonia
[14:26] <Amblnb> bazhang @: Куда это вставлять?
[14:26] <bazhang> Amblnb, ----> #ubuntu-irc (not here)
[14:35] <bazhang> Garfeild, #ubuntu-irc for this please
[14:37] <nickrud> bazhang, it doesn't have access there; I just tested that I could identify as it
[14:37] <bazhang> nickrud, ok thanks :)
[14:49] <elkeee> this again?
[14:50]  * nickrud looks around for the noun
[14:50] <bazhang> what again elkeee 
[15:01] <elkeee> bazhang, russian hoodlums
[15:02] <bazhang> elkeee, it was a misunderstanding; amblnb was banned in -ua and thought this was the place to receive help
[15:02] <bazhang> the other one garfeild is an operator in -ru
[15:04] <elkeee> and both coincidentally joined here?
[15:05] <bazhang> amblnb joined here assuming he could be helped; garfeild may have misunderstood and joined
[15:06] <bazhang> it has been resolved in -irc finally
[15:07] <nickrud> bazhang, how many languages do you speak?
[15:07] <bazhang> nickrud, not enough apparently; even knowing russian, seems sometimes misunderstandings arise
[15:08] <elkeee> all except klingon
[15:08] <nickrud> rflol, I've been speaking english fluently for 52 years, and still have daily misunderstandings ;)
[15:08] <bazhang> hehe
[15:09] <elkeee> haha
[15:09] <bazhang> loco channels have much less stringent behaviour filters it would seem
[15:11] <elkeee> well yes. we allow a degree of autonomy, but they're all expected to stick to the code of conduct
[15:12] <elkeee> every single part of the ubuntu community is expected to abide by that. no exceptions.
[15:12] <elkeee> unofficial or not. no exceptions.
[15:13] <elkeee> if they don't, they have absolutely no right to call themselves part of the ubuntu community
[15:14] <jpds> The code is more like... a guideline.
[15:16] <elkeee> it is, and those who choose to not be guided by it choose to not be part of this community
[15:21] <elkeee> there's no point in defining a community by a set of values if people who urinate on those values are allowed to identify as the same as us. it lessens the integrity and relevence of those values
[15:25] <bazhang> very true.
[15:25] <bazhang> and -ot is a perfect of example of abrogation of those values
[15:25] <jpds> bazhang: 15:25:01 [!] wececw (CM bot) [n=KST_wece@220.116.107.90] has joined #ubuntu
[15:26] <bazhang> the topic in -ot may as well be: ban evaders and stalkers welcome!
[15:26] <elkeee> bazhang, yes, but not only.
[15:27] <bazhang> jpds, yep, they were joining all day yesterday
[15:29] <elkeee> you may kill unofficial bots on sight
[15:30] <nickrud> bazhang, you should (if you could) change to that topic. Not enough people with clout hang out there
[15:32] <bazhang> nickrud, not that loco channels dont have plenty of problems (they do); but the main channel referenced from #ubuntu (ie #ubuntu-offtopic) for chat is such a cesspool at times reflects very badly on the main channel imo
[15:33] <bazhang> almost worried to send new users into that sharkpit at times
[15:36] <elkeee> i'm equally concerned about the other cesspool that falsely advertises being the first/best ubuntu channel which is closer to an sex and hate channel than an ubuntu channel
[15:36] <elkeee> anyway, i need sleeps
[16:25] <bazhang> wow alsa has gone unhelpful of late
[16:25] <bazhang> or at least that fellow copper
[16:26] <nickrud> I can understand their frustration with becoming a dumping ground
[16:26] <bazhang> he did not try to help anton at all.
[16:26] <bazhang> he basically said 'ubuntu sucks, next!'
[16:27] <nickrud> no telling what prior experience brought that on. probably hit the overload point prior to this
[16:27] <nickrud> I can relate to beating on an innocent simply because he came after the breaking point
[16:28] <bazhang> the helper gnubien was helpful; just bad luck to get that copper fellow
[16:29] <bazhang> I simply back away from irc when I get to that point
[16:29] <nickrud> I was nice to him: maybe he'll be nicer to the next ubuntu newbie, even if he doesn't help much. I keep saying that someday I'll study up on pulse audio, but will probably not
[16:31] <bazhang> sudobash seems to be trolling
[16:31] <nickrud> nah, he was told he was wrong about something and is puffing up
[16:32] <bazhang> heh
[16:32] <nickrud> see?
[16:32] <bazhang> thats never happened before
[16:34] <sudobash> Abuser of power and Anal retentive FUCKS
[16:36] <Jack_Sparrow> And as polite in PM as in here
[16:46] <nickrud> he's close to apologizing I think
[16:49] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud, You have him in PM
[16:49] <nickrud> no, I'm inferring from his quick join then part. Sorta like starting towards a person, then turning around ;)
[16:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Ah.. Hope your Holiday went well.  Ours was fantastic
[16:50] <nickrud> I've talked to him in pm before though, seemed rational and funny
[16:51] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, yeah, it was fine. Family's in Seattle area, so it was kinda remote though
[16:51] <Jack_Sparrow> We have a house on the penninnsula, so I know what you mean
[18:08] <bazhang> heh
[18:09] <bazhang> took him a while to actually ask a question
[18:25] <bazhang> crosspost flooding
[18:49] <bazhang> ban-evader/stalker extreme yes-man-1 (aka sp0rtily, z, patchpocket) in -ot
[18:49] <bazhang> Pici, jussi01_ Mez ^^
[18:50] <bazhang> * [yes-man-1] (n=eee@217.8.236.179): purple
[18:52] <jussi01> bazhang: are certain, how do you know?
[18:53] <bazhang> jussi01, the way he is stalking, his speech patterns, referencing certain films as did patchpocket et al, acknowledging that he 'could be' though the IP is not stable, and more
[19:25] <bazhang> nickrud, that was not the context he was asking in though.
[19:26] <Flannel> bazhang: re: WoW?
[19:26] <nickrud> and counterstrike has a free version, http://www.soft32.com/download_2541.html
[19:26] <bazhang> Flannel, re: getting pirated games in general
[19:27] <Flannel> bazhang: You can't "pirate" WoW.  The game is free for download,you need an account to play, etc.
[19:27] <bazhang> he had a whole list
[20:21] <jpds> @btlogin
[20:21] <jpds> ubottu: ping
[20:21] <jpds> Oh, so you are alive.
[20:21] <jpds> @login
[20:21] <jpds> @btlogin
[23:22] <runescapemastr55> guys
[23:22] <runescapemastr55> i know a glitch i think
[23:22] <runescapemastr55> so you can talk whail your banned
[23:23] <nickrud> runescapemastr55, there's lots of ways ... please don't educate people about it
[23:23]  * nickrud smiles
[23:23] <runescapemastr55> im not
[23:23] <runescapemastr55> im tryin to report it
[23:24] <runescapemastr55> nickrud?
[23:24] <runescapemastr55> oh nevermind!!!
[23:24] <runescapemastr55> forget it
[23:24] <nickrud> runescapemastr55, we're listening, and thanks for moving here. I'm a lowly op, not particularly intersested but others might be
[23:30] <runescapemastr55> guys
[23:31] <runescapemastr55> i wanna describe a glitch to you
[23:31] <runescapemastr55> if you type "/msg #ubuntu <your message>" it will send it to the channel ven if your not in the channle
[23:32] <PriceChild> runescapemastr55: #ubuntu is +n so I don't believe that true.
[23:32] <runescapemastr55> whats +n?
[23:33] <PriceChild> runescapemastr55: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[23:33] <runescapemastr55> im not reading yhat
[23:34] <runescapemastr55> an op made me read 3
[23:36]  * genii-around sips