[02:28] <L_Y> what should i do if i want to let a program run by it self in minimize?
[02:29] <jmarsden> L_Y: minimize?  On a server?  Normally you would just do   nohup programname &    # to run a prog in the background "by itself", is that what you mean?
[02:30] <L_Y> i want to let the thunderbird run by itself in the background
[02:30] <jmarsden> Thunderbird needs a GUI... why would you want it in the background?
[02:32] <jmarsden> Ubuntu server does not come with X and does not come with Gnome or KDE or any other X windowing desktop environment, so Thunderbird won't run on ubuntu server unless you do a lot of manual work to add X... are you sure this is for a server?
[02:33] <jmarsden> You are in #ubuntu-server :)
[05:12] <Elite> okay wth, I have samba installed and when I try to go and "connect"(double click the server in windows) and I type in the root user and pass etc then it tells me that the login was not successfu
[08:31] <kev009_> has anyone here set up ubuntu to do an nfsroot and boot off tftp/pxelinux?
[11:20] <Blinkiz> After a clean installation of hardy server it took about 20MB of RAM according htop. Intrepid server takes around 100MB of RAM. What is the difference here? What does the 2.6.27 kernel do so htop says it's using 100MB of RAM?
[12:07] <daaaaniiieeeel> Hello.. I think i've locked myself out from SSH on my server :) It's a blocked port issue.. I'm not sure wether it's my ISP that's blocking the server or if it's something on the server itself
[12:08] <daaaaniiieeeel> Changed from default port 22 to port 1987 and it basically stopped working
[12:08] <daaaaniiieeeel> Would anyone like to try to login? so i could see if it's my ISP that's causing the problem
[12:09] <erichammond> msg me the IP address and I'll check the port.
[12:10] <daaaaniiieeeel> I did an NMAP scan and port 1987 it returns: Filtered
[12:11] <erichammond> daaaaniiieeeel: I'm not getting any response (no connection, no rejection) on that port either.
[12:12] <daaaaniiieeeel> Ok but you can access the server on http (port 80) right?
[12:12] <erichammond> daaaaniiieeeel: yep, it's good
[12:13] <daaaaniiieeeel> Ok so did i forget something important when i switched from port 22 to 1987? i edited the /etc/sshd.conf file.. and then restarted ssh deamon
[12:13] <daaaaniiieeeel> logged out
[12:13] <daaaaniiieeeel> which was a bad idea :P
[12:13] <daaaaniiieeeel> now i'm locked out
[12:13] <erichammond> daaaaniiieeeel: Yep, always verify you can get back in before leaving.
[12:14] <daaaaniiieeeel> newbie mistake huh ><
[12:14] <daaaaniiieeeel> bah.. so now i need physical access to the server right?
[12:14] <erichammond> Folks who really like safety set up a timer which switches back to the old sshd config.
[12:14] <erichammond> This is also nice for testing iptables changes
[12:15] <erichammond> yep, unless you can find a security hole in your web server :)
[12:15] <daaaaniiieeeel> rofl
[12:15] <daaaaniiieeeel> oh damn
[12:16] <daaaaniiieeeel> So what do you think may be the issue?
[12:16] <daaaaniiieeeel> iptables?
[12:17] <erichammond> Perhaps a firewall on the system or in front of it?
[12:18] <daaaaniiieeeel> Well as i said i did an nmap scan on the port
[12:18] <daaaaniiieeeel> and on other ports it says "closed"
[12:18] <daaaaniiieeeel> but on this it says "filtered"
[12:18] <daaaaniiieeeel> which makes me wonder
[12:18] <daaaaniiieeeel> sounds like a firewall issue
[12:19] <daaaaniiieeeel> but is there a way to find out if it's the actual server or something infront of it?
[12:19] <daaaaniiieeeel> I'm guessing it's something infront, because i tested switching ports on my local virtual ubuntu server
[12:19] <daaaaniiieeeel> and it worked just fine with any port
[12:19] <daaaaniiieeeel> and it's basically the same configuration
[12:21] <kev009_> how do I create a proper fat client for nfs boot?
[12:22] <erichammond> daaaaniiieeeel: I'm going to bow out at this point.  It's past 4am and I need a bit of sleep before the kids wake me up.
[12:22] <daaaaniiieeeel> hehe ok
[12:22] <daaaaniiieeeel> cheers
[13:38] <cheetiong> hi, any body know how to modify the initrd file? i have try to use cpio command to extract this file, then modify some thing, then cpio it again to be a initrd file, but boot got kernel panic?
[13:40] <ogra> you usually dont modify initramfs directly, what exactly do you want to change ?
[13:43] <cheetiong> ogra: hi thank reply, i need to change some settings inside this initram file, because need to add driver on this live cd? please teach me.
[13:43] <ogra> so you are remastering a liveCD ?
[13:44] <ogra> if so, you can just put a line for the driver into /etc/modules ... just make sure you run the update-initramfs command afterwards and the driver will end up in your new initramfs
[13:45] <ogra> (indeed the driver needs to exist in the /lib/modules dir for your kernel)
[13:46] <cheetiong> ogra: ic, i have try to open the initrd file by cpio command, then add some file, after that cpio back to initrd file, then cannot boot got errors: kernal panic?
[13:47] <ogra> right, dont edit it directly
[13:48] <ogra> update-initramfs will assemble the filesystem for you from the files in the system, just make sure they are there when running that program ...
[13:49] <ogra> (see man update-initramfs)
[13:49] <cheetiong> ogra: ok issue the command update-initramfs are already boot into this livecd, then i restart this livecd then the driver still remain same, because the CD is readonly..?
[13:50] <ogra> right, that wont work
[13:50] <cheetiong> ogra: u mean cannot change the livecd at all?
[13:51] <cheetiong> ogra: because that livecd dont have my system latest new network card driver...:-(
[13:51] <ogra> you cant update a liveCD thats burned already ...
[13:51] <ogra> see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[13:51] <cheetiong> ogra: ok thank.
[13:51] <ogra> you can modify the iso ... before you burn it to disk
[13:52] <cheetiong> ogra: thank you very much.
[14:43] <AshTray-> Need a little help please. Dovecot it's not working anymore. It's restarting.. http://pastebin.ath.cx/m6021d3d4 but it's not working... http://blt.ath.cx/squirrelmail/src/login.php
[15:05]  * delcoyote hi
[15:52] <cheetiong> anybody experience about using linux as a client then connect to openVMS server via telnet, but the keyboard function key for openVMS i cannot find in linux, anybody know the solution?
[16:34] <AshTray-> Need help making a print server
[17:09] <AshTray-> Please help. I have a problem with my hp 3320 printer... http://pastebin.com/m23cd9f3b
[19:12] <AshTray-> How to make an user for vsFTPd ?
[20:15] <yann2_> when is the next ubuntu-server meeting?
[20:50]  * yann2_ going to add this to the agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/WebArchitecture
[22:00] <mcas> if i use /usr/share/doc/exim4-base/examples/exim-gencert to generate a cert for exim then i get the message that the cert was deprecated(?)
[22:00] <mcas> sorry i don't now the correct word at the moment
[22:00] <mcas> the cert was valid to AUG of this year
[22:01] <mcas> but i run the script 5 minutes ago
[22:01] <mcas> has someone the same bug?
[22:01] <mcas> its hardy heron server