[00:00] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: I left the system updating overnight if I'm not mistaken, just coming back from the Christmas break to a non functional ubuntu :(
[00:00] <terli> meoblast001 : have you tried webcamstudio?
[00:00] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: I've unfortunately (or fortunately?) never used the rescue mode on the alternate CD.  So I'm not familiar with it at all.  I'll see if I can find anything on the internet about it, and you can ask any questions you may have about it (I get X, Y, and Z, as choices, what do I want?)
[00:00] <meoblast001> terli: i have it installed but dont know how to use it to screenrecord
[00:01] <rraj_be> i need a small help iiin formating my new 64 GIB pen drive.           could any one of u help me please
[00:01] <rraj_be> this is the error i get now  when i try to formate
[00:01] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: so no hope from the grub promt then?
[00:01] <chema> hola
[00:01] <rraj_be> DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.NotFound: The given volume was not found
[00:02] <sidewalk> how do i turn off randr from gnome?
[00:02] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: No, you have no kernel to boot to (apparently)
[00:02] <koshar1> terli i prefer recordmydesktop
[00:02] <koshar1> rraj_be whats the prob
[00:03] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: If you were updating... it sounds to me like it was less the problem of the power outage, and more that somehow you removed all of your kernels.
[00:03] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: since update-grub ran (and rewrote the menu.lst) without any of them
[00:03] <rraj_be> i cant formate or create a disk label for my new 64 GIB pen drive koshar1
[00:03] <Org-Mode> meoblast001: you might also try gtk-recordMyDesktop
[00:04] <levidos> how can i list all the loaded modules?
[00:04] <meoblast001> Org-Mode: thats part of the problem.
[00:04] <mrunagi> how do i download missing shared libraries
[00:04] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: that would be real weird,but then I can manage to break anything
[00:04] <Org-Mode> meoblast001: what bout istanbul?
[00:04] <hspaans> mrunagi: missing shared libs?
[00:04] <meoblast001> Org-Mode: well... its not that... its the program that has to work with it
[00:04] <malavar> hmm i dropped my laptop now the hd wont boot :(
[00:04] <mrunagi> x wont start because it says that it cannot open libxdcmp.so.6
[00:05] <koshar1> rraj_be using gparted? btw 64 gig is a lot for a usb drive, its not a chinese knock up is it?
[00:05] <mrunagi> so im trying to find it
[00:05] <malavar> anyone know if fsck can help fix the problem? ubuntu boots then hangs
[00:05] <Awsoonn> What are some of my options for watching digital HD cable tv on my linux box? I have charter Cable. Or is there even a way?
[00:05] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: It is real weird, but it... sort of makes sense (as in, that would be one way we could get to this state).  If we could get a live system, we could read the dpkg logs and see.  And we can also likely extract a kernel deb and work our way to a working system again.
[00:05] <tclduh> hi all.  I know how to suspend a process using Ctrl-Z, but is there a way to run a process in the background without suspending it, so i keeps working?
[00:05] <rraj_be> yes ia m using gparted
[00:05] <levidos> malavar: try hdd regenerator. it repaired my hard drive once, after dropping it.
[00:05] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: trying "Rescue a broken system" in the alternate CD
[00:05] <Flannel> tclduh: ctrl-z, then bg %X where X is the number (`jobs` will list the numbers)
[00:05] <n8tuser> tclduh-> add &
[00:05] <Org-Mode> meoblast001: ah, well the only prob i have with screen recorders in linux is getting it to record sound, the video comes out pretty nice though
[00:05] <tclduh> Flannel: ty!!!
[00:06] <tclduh> that's easy!!!
[00:06] <Flannel> tclduh: you can start something in the background with `foo &` (will start foo in the background)
[00:06] <rraj_be> but i dont know is it chanises or not . .one of my friend asked help to me in formating that koshar1
[00:06] <hspaans> mrunagi: you did some manual installing or so?
[00:06] <Flannel> tclduh: You may also want to look into GNU Screen
[00:06] <tclduh> so cool
[00:06] <mrunagi> i did a dist upgrade
[00:06] <Flannel> tclduh: and then you can re-foreground them with fg %X
[00:06] <onetinsoldier> and ctrl-s
[00:07] <koshar1> rraj_be there are fake usb keys round that report that they are a LOT bigger than they actually are...
[00:07] <hspaans> mrunagi: sudo apt-get install libxdmcp6
[00:07] <rraj_be> hm .........really koshar1
[00:07] <hspaans> mrunagi: you may want to check if your dist-upgrade was succesful
[00:07] <koshar1> rraj_be iam not saying this is the case but just to be aware of the possability.
[00:07] <rraj_be> what can we do to detect taht
[00:07] <rraj_be> or to use taht
[00:07] <rraj_be> ksw:
[00:07] <rraj_be> koshar1:
[00:07] <rraj_be> ok
[00:08] <rraj_be> any way to detect that
[00:08] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: I can "Execute a shell in /dev/sda2" on "Execute a shell in the installer environment", what to pick?
[00:08] <koshar1> rraj_be i friend bought back a handfull of sony knock up usb drives that clamed to be 16g but upon poping the package it was discovered they only had 256mg of flash.
[00:08] <mrunagi> hspaans: when i tried install libxdmcp6 it said it was the newest version
[00:09] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: The former
[00:09] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: I already try to "Reinstall GRUB" with no success
[00:09] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: GRUB is working fine, it's not a GRUB issue.  The issue is you have no kernels.
[00:09] <rraj_be> how to detect that koshar1
[00:09] <koshar1> rraj_be other than opening the package, try to format small partitions and progressively make them bigger untill it wont format
[00:09] <hspaans> mrunagi: then this file should exist /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6
[00:09] <rraj_be> ok
[00:09] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: this is a 8.10 Alternate CD? or 8.04?
[00:09] <aka-> yo for an ubuntu install on my desktop how much space should I use for swap?
[00:09] <rraj_be> i will try it
[00:10] <outofthemadness> hey folks. I tried to use double screens for a while but that breaks compiz. I'm trying to re-enable compiz, but I don't know what configuration file I need to edit. Anyone know?
[00:10] <sfer21> Hello again everyone. I'm having a really big problem with gnome, when I login it shows the normal screen for a few seconds, a terminal and then logs out - yet logging into kde is fine. I got it to work again just then, but upon logging out and logging back in again, it stopped working! Can anyone help?
[00:10] <onetinsoldier> aka-: i would make it the same size as the amount of ram you have
[00:11] <hspaans> mrunagi: are you sure the dist-upgrade was succesful?
[00:11] <aka-> thanks onetinsoldier
[00:11] <aka-> 2GB
[00:11] <onetinsoldier> aka-: sounds good. you're welcome
[00:12] <meoblast001> mjpegtools_yuv_to_v4l: failed to open output video device, aborting.Capturing!
[00:12] <meoblast001> why?
[00:12] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: I think is 8.10
[00:12] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: Might even be Jaunty :S
[00:13] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: Erm.... What version is the system?
[00:13] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: I'm at a # shell
[00:13] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: it was 8.10 when operational
[00:13] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: alright.  `lsb_release -a` gives you what version?
[00:14] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: Release: 8.10
[00:14] <sony> i have a notebook with an intel gma965. when connected an external monitor it is always recognized as primary monitor. does anyone know how i can set the internal monitor as primary minitor?
[00:14] <hagus> Who should be the owner of /usr/bin ?
[00:14] <hagus> Should it be user or root?
[00:14] <onetinsoldier> hagus: without even looking.. root, i'm sure
[00:14] <onetinsoldier> group root too i'll bet
[00:14] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: Check in /media/ or /mnt/ and see if your CDrom is mounted there
[00:14] <pexi> sony, you should try xranr
[00:15] <onetinsoldier> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 61440 2008-12-26 17:02 /usr/bin
[00:15] <hagus> Grr - I have it as user and I am being refused permission to change the owner :(
[00:15] <srbaker> heya folks
[00:15] <srbaker> i have two 500G disks
[00:15]  * hagus has hit the setuid problem.
[00:15] <pexi> sony,  sorry xrandr
[00:15] <srbaker> i want them to appear as one (fresh install)
[00:15] <srbaker> how do i manage that?
[00:15] <meoblast001> linux sux
[00:15] <FloodBot1> srbaker: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:15] <Flannel> hagus: reboot to the recovery console (at GRUB, choose recovery console)
[00:15] <dgarr> hagus: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 50232 2008-12-05 10:18 /usr/bin/
[00:15] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: cdrom and cdrom0 are under media
[00:15] <hagus> Flannel, I did try that twice
[00:16] <sidewalk> does anyone know how i turn off randr from gnome?
[00:16] <sidewalk> xrandr that is
[00:16] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: Alright, cd into one/either/both of them and see if there's a README.diskdefines file in it
[00:16] <hspaans> sidewalk: xrandr is a X.org thingie not a GNOME thingie
[00:16] <hagus> but I shall try it again - just to be sure.  dgarr and various forums that I read suggested that I do that too. However, so far, not much luck.
[00:17] <allquixotic> srbaker: You can't make them appear as a single disk at _all_ levels of the OS, but if you have hardware RAID support on your motherboard or with a PCI card, that's about as good as you can get.
[00:17] <dgarr> hagus: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219767
[00:17]  * hagus kicks himself for being so stupid as to change root to root, hagus
[00:17] <allquixotic> srbaker: Setting up hardware RAID depends entirely on what your hardware is. If you don't want to use hardware RAID, you can use LVM2, which has a similar effect in software.
[00:17] <Flannel> hagus: What did you do, exactly?
[00:18] <onetinsoldier> hagus: you'd probably have to boot a LiveCD/Resuce and chroot
[00:18] <srbaker> allquixotic: naw, i want software raid.  or disk pooling
[00:18] <sidewalk> hspaans: in kubuntu it can be turned off somehow
[00:18] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: there's nothing under either cdrom or cdrom0
[00:18] <srbaker> is there disk pooling support in any of the FSes in 8.10?
[00:18] <sidewalk> hspaans: you know how i turn it off? :P
[00:18] <allquixotic> !lvm
[00:18] <srbaker> and is LVM2 what i'd use for that?
[00:18] <hagus> I was trying to install Eclipse PDT on my ubuntu system.
[00:18] <srbaker> thank you
[00:18] <allquixotic> !lvm | srbaker
[00:19] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: Alright, lets mount it, sudo /dev/sdb1 /media/cdrom (I assume its sdb1, it may be sdc1, etc, depending on your hardware)
[00:19] <hagus> I read in a tutorial on how to do it (in some forum) that I should install the editor pdt to /usr/bin
[00:19] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: er, there's a mount in there too ;)
[00:19] <hagus> I could not without changing the permissions
[00:19] <sidewalk> !xrandr
[00:19] <allquixotic> srbaker: I personally have two 500GB disks in an LVM2 configuration that has a *single* physical partition striped across both of them. Software thinks I have a terabyte hard drive. :)
[00:19] <sony> pexi: how can i solve my problem with xrandr?
[00:19] <srbaker> allquixotic: right,a ths' what i want
[00:19] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: sorry I got lost in the last one
[00:19] <hagus> I changed the owner to root,calum
[00:20] <srbaker> allquixotic: where can i find specific instructions for that?
[00:20] <Flannel> hagus: so you changed the group to calum?
[00:20] <hagus> The result is that I cannot get access to sudo now.
[00:20] <meoblast001> i guess Ubuntu just cant do what i want it to
[00:20] <woody86> how can I find all of my posts that someone has thanked??
[00:20] <sidewalk> sony: what xrandr issue do you have? :P
[00:20] <levidos> some of my programs (miro, firefox, qbittorrent) randomly quit, disappear, whithout any error message. what logs should i check to diagnose my problem?
[00:20] <hagus> owner = calum, group=root :(
[00:20] <cn28h> levidos, try starting them from a terminal and see if they print any output
[00:20] <Flannel> hagus: So, you did chown?
[00:20] <hagus> I tried to put root,calum in as the groups allowed to access it.
[00:20] <nealmcb> I can't seem to disable automounting of the file system on my usb device when I plug it in.  I need to avoid that because the file system is damaged and I want to fix it without more damage from automounting, photo importing, nautilus and all that stuff
[00:20] <pajones> Hi, my laptop brightness settings aren't being remembered. I'm running intrepid (things used to work before I installed/upgraded a bunch of packages including a "proposed" kernel). Now everytime I log on, resume from suspend or screensaver I need to change my brightness settings. Does anyone know what package / packages are responsible for this behavior?
[00:20] <hagus> I was using dolphin.
[00:21] <allquixotic> srbaker: It's been a while since I've installed Ubuntu, but if you get the option in the partitioner (during install) to select an LVM2 configuration, you basically have to follow the prompts. There may be a nice tutorial out there. I haven't ever used LVM2 with Ubuntu, only other Linuces. May want to ask around for input from others.
[00:21] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> windows pc keeps asking for a user/pass and i donno how to set one for samba? is it just using adduser/passwd ?
[00:21] <hagus> I am a little bit at a loss as to what I did.
[00:21] <srbaker> allquixotic: hrm, thanks
[00:21] <nealmcb> I"ve turned off everything in "removable drives and media"
[00:21] <allquixotic> srbaker: Ubuntu 8.10's partitioner is really nice looking though, it could have what you need :)
[00:21] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/cdrom (mounts sdb1 to /media/cdrom)
[00:21] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: you'll want to cd .. before doing that
[00:21] <nealmcb> but f-spot-import still starts up
[00:21] <srbaker> allquixotic: i don't know.  i didn't see any lvm options, but i'm looking now
[00:21] <srbaker> thanks
[00:22] <hagus> I have tried just this minute to give the group write permission - I seem to have managed to deny root that :(
[00:22] <melch> Hey
[00:22] <Flannel> hagus: Are you using sudo?
[00:22] <melch> Does anyone know how to install Adobe Air?
[00:22] <pexi> sony,  I hope that this link help --> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2
[00:22] <Flannel> hagus: sudo chown root:root /usr/bin?
[00:22] <onetinsoldier> hagus: you should install most things like that to /usr/local/bin ...also, you should install things into /bin directories while you are root user(sudo) and never change permissions of /bin directories. you must have been root user to change the permission of /usr/bin to begin with
[00:23] <sony> sidewalk:  i have a notebook with an intel gma965. when connected an external monitor it is always recognized as primary monitor. does anyone know how i can set the internal monitor as primary monitor? can xandr solve that problem?
[00:23] <nealmcb> what else might be automatically mounting the media?
[00:23] <linxeh> onetinsoldier: er.
[00:23] <allquixotic> srbaker: It's interesting because LVM2 user programs and kernel modules are available for Ubuntu, and I have accessed an LVM2 volume that was created with another Linux while booting an Ubuntu 8.10 live CD.. just haven't tried it in the installer.
[00:23] <hagus> I did become root to change the .
[00:23] <hagus>  ../usr/bin
[00:23] <hagus> grr
[00:23] <onetinsoldier> linxeh: hello?
[00:23]  * hagus is a chump
[00:24] <melch> Hey does anyone know how to install adobe air in 64bit?
[00:24] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: the CD is DISKNAME Ubuntu 8.10
[00:24] <sfer21> Hello again everyone. I'm having a really big problem with gnome, when I login it shows the normal screen for a few seconds, a terminal and then logs out - yet logging into kde is fine. I got it to work again just then, but upon logging out and logging back in again, it stopped working! Can anyone help?
[00:24] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: sounds good.  Did you mount it successfully?
[00:24] <levidos> cn28h: i get this error when starting miro... it quits after 2 - 3 seconds. all these programs that "quit" use a lot of connections. can you take a look at the log, please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/93474/
[00:24] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: it was /dev/scd0 after all
[00:24] <outofthemadness> hey folks. I tried to set up dual monitors with my laptop for a little while, but that broke compiz. Removing the monitor and rolling xorg.conf back didn't do anything(in intrepid). I am wondering if anyone knows which file I should edit to fix this.
[00:25] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: is now under /media/cdrom as read-only mount
[00:25] <GodfatherofEire> Whereabouts might the passwd files be in the filesystem, trying to run JTR on here and I cant find where my password files are?
[00:25] <onetinsoldier> nealmcb: hello. is this device listed in your /etc/fstab file?
[00:25] <sfer21> /etc/passwd?
[00:25] <linxeh> onetinsoldier: installing in /usr/local/ isn't necessarily such a good idea. it is an absolute nightmare to manage
[00:25] <sidewalk> how do i turn of xrandr?
[00:25] <nealmcb> onetinsoldier: nope
[00:25] <hagus> Is there a way in which I could temporarily set myself as root?
[00:25] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: That's fine.  cd /media/cdrom/pool/l/linux/
[00:25] <GodfatherofEire> sfer21: tried that, said no password hashes found
[00:25]  * hagus lives dangerously for a little while
[00:25] <sfer21> GodfatherofEire: does it have root access?
[00:26] <GodfatherofEire> sfer21: no, but now I see why it wasnt loading them *facepalm* thanks
[00:26] <onetinsoldier> nealmcb: roger.. i don't know for sure. how about umounting it? or does it just get auto-remounted right away if you do that?
[00:26] <melch> Hey. How do I install adobe air on the 64bit version?
[00:26] <sfer21> GodfatherofEire: silly mistakes are easy :P glad I could help
[00:26] <GodfatherofEire> sfer21, wait, still nothin
[00:27] <nealmcb> onetinsoldier: I can do that, but the damage may be done by then
[00:27] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: cd media/cdrom/pool/main/l/linux/ did the trick ;)
[00:27] <cn28h> levidos, sounds like it's saying something is too slow (maybe your connection? or video display?)
[00:27] <nealmcb> onetinsoldier:  but it does not get remounted though
[00:27] <onetinsoldier> linxeh: i hear you, but /usr/local/bin is in your PATH and /usr/bin is normally reserved for apps install by the package manager. but i hear you
[00:27] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: then once you're there, you should see linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic(some numbers).deb, sudo dpkg -i linux-image(tab)
[00:27] <melch> Hey. How do I install adobe air on the 64bit version of ubuntu 8.10
[00:27] <R1_> Hi, can someone tell me what the program "build-essentials" are?
[00:27] <sfer21> GodfatherofEire: anything happen when you type in a terminal sudo gedit /etc/passwd?
[00:28] <sfer21> obviously don't edit the file, of course
[00:28] <onetinsoldier> nealmcb: ok, after it's umounted then run the filesystem check on it
[00:28] <GodfatherofEire> sfer21: you could say that
[00:28] <roca> anyone else install ebox and cant even get irc but can surf the net?
[00:28] <veda> hi has problem
[00:28] <veda> home dir full, / full, still have 200gb free unallocated, made partition cant mountpoint
[00:28] <veda> please help?
[00:28] <nealmcb> onetinsoldier: well unmounting it in the middle of f-spot starting up will just cause new problems I fear.  I just want it to stop doing that, now and in the future....
[00:28] <R1_> Hi, can someone tell me what the program "build-essentials" are?
[00:28] <l3d> I cant get tis app to install under wine it doesnt know what to do with with a msi    how would i fix this
[00:29] <sfer21> GodfatherofEire: what program were you trying to use it with? maybe it's a configuration fault in that
[00:29] <nealmcb> even just mounting a file system changes stuff on the file system as I recall...
[00:29] <onetinsoldier> nealmcb: f-spot?
[00:29] <sfer21> R1_: for make, i guess?
[00:29] <Flannel> R1_: It's build-essential, and it's a package that brings in all of the things you'll need to build programs (at least, for a few languages)
[00:29] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu, I'm already # so I might skip sudo right?
[00:29] <GodfatherofEire> sfer21: john (aka John the Ripper, but its canonical supported)
[00:29] <allquixotic> unop_, I got the program dnsmasq to cache up to 1000 DNS entries. Also, it simultaneously pings both VPN and NAT servers, and the first one to respond is returned by dnsmasq. By putting 127.0.0.1 as first in resolv.conf, I get DNS lookups of about 100 msec for an uncached domain, either public internet or VPN; and less than a millisecond for cached ones. Awesome!
[00:29] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: Oh, right.
[00:29] <nealmcb> f-spot is the photo management software I use - I thought it was default by now
[00:29] <R1_> Flannel, ty
[00:29] <cn28h> l3d, use msiexec?
[00:30] <sfer21> GodfatherofEire: hmm, I don't know what's going on. I'm not into that kind of thing, maybe someone else can help... sorry I couldn't help any further.
[00:30] <linxeh> onetinsoldier: yeah, on our systems we install to /usr/packages/PACKAGE and add things to the various paths with a ~/.packagesrc defining the list of packages and a bunch of scripts to manage it - not ideal, but the only way to cope with such a large system
[00:30] <R1_> Flannel, this build-essential is not harmful to my ubuntu is it?
[00:30] <GodfatherofEire> sfer21, no prob
[00:30] <linxeh> R1_: no
[00:30] <R1_> linxeh, ty
[00:30] <veda> home dir full, / full, still have 200gb free unallocated, made partition cant mountpoint
[00:30] <onetinsoldier> nealmcb: sorry,i don't know. just keep asking. someone will probably know. i'll poke around too
[00:30] <ZxPwn> hey guys i got a prob again :P
[00:30] <nealmcb> onetinsoldier: thanks for your quick help anyway!
[00:30] <dgar1> !build-essential | R1_
[00:30] <sfer21> !ask | ZxPwn
[00:30] <byteme___> pietree
[00:30] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: installing the package it seems
[00:31] <ZxPwn> lol i wasnt asking im typing :P
[00:31] <byteme___> lol
[00:31] <veda> ???????????????
[00:31] <donavan> has anyone had any experience getting tv cards to work ... I am stuck and can;t get mine to scan for channels
[00:31] <byteme___> damn bots
[00:31] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: good.  Lets hopeit's installing to your /boot on your install.
[00:31] <linxeh> donavan: what card ?
[00:31] <Flannel> byteme___: Please watch your language
[00:31] <byteme___> lol
[00:31] <grout_> hey guys I need some recomendations on an mp3 player thats not a zune  or ipod thats comptible with linux.
[00:31] <veda> home dir full, / full, still have 200gb free unallocated, made partition cant mountpoint
[00:32] <veda> ???help
[00:32] <Flannel> !repeat | veda
[00:32] <ZxPwn> im trying to use firestarter for ICS bridging eth1 (wifi  connected to my network) and eth0 my ethernet.
[00:32] <bastid_raZor> veda; have you created the mount point?
[00:32] <veda> how?
[00:32] <sfer21> grout_: basically any that have drag-and-drop are compatible.
[00:32] <ZxPwn> i went through the setup it says
[00:32] <pajones> !patience
[00:32] <veda> yes
[00:32] <Flannel> !separatehome | veda
[00:32] <ZxPwn> "eth0 not ready"
[00:32] <veda>  /bacup
[00:32] <donavan> linxeh: WinTV-HVR 1800  I have it installed at least I think... and did the driver update but it just doesnt find any channels when I do a scan
[00:32] <ZxPwn> all cables in correctly and eth0 has some activity =/
[00:32] <bastid_raZor> veda; how are you trying to mount it? what is the exact command you are typing?
[00:32] <sfer21> !paste | ZxPwn
[00:33] <sfer21> oops, wrong one
[00:33] <allquixotic> grout_: I love the Cowon D2. Also, you might want to check out the Rockbox project; they are trying to build a Linux distribution *for your MP3 player*. If it installs Linux on your MP3 player -- which takes some expertise -- then it's definitely going to work well with a Linux desktop ;-)
[00:33] <D3RGPS31> I can't view some website with Ubuntu, but I can with Mac & Windows... They all have the same DNS/Gateway/DHCP, IPv6 is disabled
[00:33] <linxeh> donavan: hmm, the mythtv site normally has good info on tv cards. have you installed the firmware for the card etc ?
[00:33] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: seemed to also updater grub under /boot
[00:33] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: yeah, after you install a kernel it runs update-grub
[00:33] <allquixotic> grout_: As for the D2, both the internal memory card and the SD card slot can be accessed over USB from Ubuntu. Plug and play -- icons show up on the desktop.
[00:34] <ZxPwn> lol
[00:34] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: how to confirm it went fine and what to do next?
[00:34] <sfer21> !lol | ZxPwn
[00:34] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: cd /boot and see if there's appropriate files there
[00:34] <grout_> allquixotic: Thanks for the suggestions
[00:34] <grout_> Are creatives mp3 players linux friendly?
[00:35] <onetinsoldier> nealmcb: ok, try the following
[00:35] <ZxPwn> does anyone know why it says "eth0 not ready" on firestarter?
[00:35] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: there are now vmlinuz in there :)
[00:35] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: If it worked, reboot, boot to linux, copy your dpkg.log (since I'd like to see it), and then install linux-generic (right now your kernel isn't updated, nor do you have restricted-modules, so you may be low resolution, etc)
[00:35] <sfer21> grout_: from what i've seen they are
[00:35] <donavan> linxeh: I think so I followed his thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=785476&highlight=wintv+hvr1800 at least partly... and also the linuxtvwiki
[00:35] <allquixotic> grout_: Creative as a company is not very Linux-friendly, but the question you should ask is whether their MP3 players are capable of showing themselves to the operating system as a "USB Mass Storage Device". If someone at Creative Sales can answer yes to that question, it will work.
[00:35] <cn28h> ZxPwn, is the interface up and the cable plugged in?
[00:35] <nealmcb> !hal
[00:35] <rano> rdtzdrtz
[00:36] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: That'll drag in an up-to-date kernel, etc.  Reboot again, and you'll be back to normal.  (save that dpkg.log, since we may be able to get insight into what it's thinking removing all the kernels)
[00:36] <onetinsoldier> nealmcb: ok, try the following   System --> Preferences --> File Management --> Media(Tab)  ...look at what you have for the 'Photos' option
[00:36] <nealmcb> onetinsoldier: I'll look - thankjs
[00:36] <allquixotic> grout_: USB Mass Storage Device is a standard that works amazingly well and is very compatible across devices. Very few incompatibilities exist between operating systems and certified Mass Storage Devices.
[00:36] <GodfatherofEire> Say, is there a way to convert/extrapolate a given file to its hard disk binary sequence?
[00:36] <iluminator101> Hey Guys can someone please help me with settup free yahoo mail in thunderbird
[00:36] <pajones> sony, I had the same problem. I never figured it out.
[00:36] <onetinsoldier> nealmcb: ok, let me know how it goes if you can
[00:37] <nealmcb> onetinsoldier: no "file management" there
[00:37] <grout_> Great thanks a lot guys
[00:37] <ZxPwn> anyone know a better way to bridge eth0 and eth1 without firestarter?
[00:37] <rano> ei
[00:37] <nealmcb> onetinsoldier: I'm on hardy
[00:37] <onetinsoldier> nealmcb: ahhh, i see
[00:37] <joejc> whats the best small distro similar to ubuntu?
[00:37] <donavan> linxeh: I think I found my problem ... didnt read very well thats what I get for staying up too late to try to get it to work
[00:37] <iluminator101> joejc:linux mint
[00:37] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: shutdown -h now won't go, other way to shutdown?
[00:38] <rano> ei
[00:38] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: it says Connection refused
[00:38] <D3RGPS31> I can't view some website with Ubuntu, but I can with Mac & Windows... They all have the same DNS/Gateway/DHCP, IPv6 is disabled (same on the LiveCD)
[00:38] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: that's odd.  A safe way to shut down (if it wont do it the normal way) would be REISUB
[00:38] <onetinsoldier> nealmcb: i'm don't know then. i think it's a nautilus option/setting
[00:38] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: alt-sysrq then slowly type r, e, i, s, u, b
[00:38] <nealmcb> onetinsoldier: ahh - I'll look there...
[00:38] <donavan> d3rgps31:  what browser are you using
[00:38] <onetinsoldier> nealmcb: ok
[00:38] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: Its certainly not ideal, but it's safe.
[00:39] <iluminator101> Has anyone setup free yahoo mail in thunderbird?
[00:39] <GodfatherofEire> Say, is there a way to convert/extrapolate a given file to its hard disk binary sequence?
[00:39] <D3RGPS31> donavan browser doesn't matter
[00:39] <melch> Anyone have adobe air installed on 64bit ubuntu?
[00:39] <allquixotic> joejc: Discussion about other distributions isn't really on-topic here; but anyway, if you want "small" (as in small footprint), you will most likely not see the robust features of Ubuntu. Features take more space, both on the CD and on the disk. You might check http://www.distrowatch.com if you are distro-shopping, but let's not discuss specific other distros here.
[00:39] <marki> hi all,
[00:39] <GodfatherofEire> Flannel: couldnt he also use sudo init 0?
[00:39] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: sysreq?
[00:39] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: its on the same key as print screen
[00:39] <Gehom> Could I get some advice? I just finished building my computer (Asus M3A78-EM m/b, AMD Athlon 64 x2 5000+ processor), it boots into BIOS just fine, and I configured the CD-ROM drive to be the primary boot device. There is no other OS on the computer. I put in my Ubuntu disc (which I had checked out and I know works), and...it doesn’t boot into Ubuntu. How do I get it to boot?
[00:39] <Flannel> GodfatherofEire: If shutdown isn't working, its likely init wont either
[00:40] <GodfatherofEire> Flannel, true
[00:40]  * Panarchy says Hi
[00:40] <byteme___> unplug all other boot devices and try
[00:40] <allquixotic> Gehom: Can you get that disc to boot in another computer?
[00:40] <Decepticon> how can i convert a swf file to a png or jpg... the swf file scaled properly is a bit too big for my screen resolution to take screen captures
[00:40] <marki> is the best way to upgrade from 6.10 to 8.10 by stepping through dist-upgrade for one distro to the next
[00:40] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: Anotehr thing you ought to do is fsck.  Once we reboot and install the new kernel, we'll go ahead and do that. (sudo touch /forcefsck, then reboot, and it'll fsck on boot)
[00:40] <Flannel> marki: Yes.
[00:41] <marki> Thanks
[00:41] <Gehom> ummmm...it's the 64-bit version, but I know that all the files are there and it should work
[00:41] <ZxPwn> no one?
[00:41] <Flannel> marki: You may want to consider reinstalling instead of upgrading four times.
[00:41] <_Styles_> I'm trying to boot using the Live CD and it spits out Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0 (Doe this mean it can't write to the hard drive?)
[00:41] <nealmcb> onetinsoldier: this looks helpful! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=818002
[00:41] <onetinsoldier> nealmcb: ok, i'll have a look, thanks!
[00:41] <Whitey> #ubuntu
[00:41] <donavan> d3rgps31:  could it be that they are looking at your OS and they are just not letting any non mac/win box to connect ?  or is this a major site your going to ?
[00:41] <bastid_raZor> iluminator101; http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071202081209AAJJoKG  :: or :: http://email.about.com/od/mozillathunderbirdtips/qt/et_free_yahoo.htm
[00:41] <GodfatherofEire> Say, is there a way to convert/extrapolate a given file to its hard disk binary sequence?
[00:41] <allquixotic> Gehom: Just because the files contained in the ISO are there doesn't mean that the CD has its boot record. If you have burned the ISO file by copying its "file" contents, you probably aren't using El Torito (Joliet) filesystem, which provides the boot record.
[00:41] <marki> if I reinstall can i get most of my settings back by backing up my home dir
[00:42] <D3RGPS31> donavan no, i tried with a user agent switcher; also a major site (to me)
[00:42] <allquixotic> Gehom: In other words, if you have never been able to put that CD into another computer and get the Ubuntu boot loader, then the CD may be the problem.
[00:42] <Flannel> marki: Yeah, your homedir contains all of your personal preferences
[00:42] <GodfatherofEire> Like, if I had an audio file, and wanted to get the binary sequence, and put it in a text file, would there be a way to do it?
[00:42] <CaMason> Anyone able to use their phone as a modem via bluetooth in 8.10 ?
[00:42] <Whitey> Hey people!
[00:42] <unr3a1> hey all
[00:42] <Flannel> GodfatherofEire: Not a text file, but yes.
[00:42] <johnzorn> how can I check if port 53 is being blocked?
[00:42] <Whitey> Hi unreal!
[00:42] <GodfatherofEire> Flannel: How?
[00:43] <Flannel> GodfatherofEire: well, text editors expect to get text, not binary data.  But if you look at the file in a hex editor, for example.
[00:43] <unr3a1> I am looking for a linux CD/DVD burner that is equivalent to Nero for windows
[00:43] <GodfatherofEire> Flannel, any one in particular you'd recommend?
[00:43] <unr3a1> does anyone know what is good?
[00:43] <Panarchy> I'm trying to remove everything from ubuntu except GNOME, a terminal emulator, gedit, network capabilities & apt. Does anyone know how I could do this?
[00:43] <Whitey> Did anyone here participate in making Ubuntu?
[00:43] <Flannel> GodfatherofEire: check the repos. I don't know of one that's above and beyond the others
[00:43] <allquixotic> Decepticon: SWF files are animations, some of them interactive; they can also contain a video file. PNG and JPG are static images. Converting between the two is like trying to convert a video cassette to a picture.
[00:44] <Gehom> Huh. When I put it into this computer, I immediately get the window asking me if I want to boot with the disc. Should I just download and test the 32-bit instead?
[00:44] <Tillotson> unr3al: brassero?
[00:44] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: I had to google the REISUB :)
[00:44] <moDumass> morning all, i have a sd card in my eeepc that i cant open, i can see it, i just dont have access to it, any ideas since its essentially a temp hard drive
 are there any other import locations that I should backup (other than home and data dirs)
[00:44] <donavan> d3rgps31 : you have an address I will try and him it from my box and see if I get anything similar
[00:44] <Decepticon> allquixotic, the swf files im talking of are special since they only have 1 frame
[00:44] <onetinsoldier> nealmcb: ok, so for you, 'File Management' is found in the Nautilus browser itself, correct? i hardly use it, i do all my file manipulation by command line really
[00:44] <D3RGPS31> donavan i don't understand
[00:44] <GodfatherofEire> Flannel: specifically, what I'm tryin to do is use the binary of an audio file like so: audio -> binary -> hex -> base-36 -> Password
[00:44] <Decepticon> allquixotic as a result, id like to get that 1 frame turned into a screenshot... but its too big for my screen... and i have many of these swf files with 1 frames
[00:44] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: it has rebooted now and I'm now at my all glorious rainbow of flashing colors as detailed on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/xorg-server/+bug/146706
[00:45] <unr3a1> Tillotson: I have that.  Is that already one of the best cd/dvd burning software?
[00:45] <allquixotic> Decepticon: gst-launch-0.10 is my favorite program for doing all sorts of crazy manipulations on media files; it's a swiss army knife. There may be a way to get it to simply pop that one frame out into an image.
[00:45] <Pilot_51> how do i prevent an audio device from being held from other apps by the first app to grab it?
[00:45] <allquixotic> Decepticon: gst-launch is *extremely* flexible. You ask an interesting question, so I might take 5 minutes and see if I can figure out a way to do what you are asking. I love to learn more about gst-launch's capabilities.
[00:45] <donavan> d3rgps31: sorry about the typos,   give me an address of a site you are trying to get to I will see if I get the same issue on linux box ... that is unless I am missunderstanding what you are trying to do
[00:45] <Decepticon> allquixotic, i cannot find gst-launch in apt-cache search
[00:46] <alex_mayorga> I think I should forget ubuntu altogether on this pesky laptop
[00:46] <D3RGPS31> donavan h33t.com
[00:46] <allquixotic> Decepticon: gstreamer0.10-tools is the package which provides the executable, /usr/bin/gst-launch-0.10
[00:46] <unr3a1> alex_mayorga: what kind of laptop?
[00:46] <D3RGPS31> donavan even when i try to connect to it from a livecd, i fail
[00:46] <johnzorn> I have no name resolution, the connection times out. I can do a host -T <address> just fine but not host <address>. monitoring with wirseshark has a return packet from my isps dns server with the address but followed by an ICMP packet from me to the dns server that says Destination unreachable(port unreachable). Any suggestions?
[00:46] <Pilot_51> if i set an application to use an audio device, no other applications can use that device until i close the first application
[00:46] <Panarchy> I'm trying to remove everything from ubuntu except GNOME, a terminal emulator, gedit, network capabilities & apt. Does anyone know how I could do this?
[00:46] <allquixotic> Decepticon: it's a console program, and if you've never used it before, it can be somewhat confusing to get started. You'd have to learn a little bit about Gstreamer under the hood, first. But let me try and cook something up for you.
[00:47] <alex_mayorga> unr3a1: Dell Inspiron 8200
[00:47] <Pilot_51> btw i'm on ubuntu intrepid
[00:47] <moDumass> mount SD card
[00:47] <D3RGPS31> Panarchy what about X? and gdm?
[00:47] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: from the bug can you help me regain video, used to work last time
[00:47] <unr3a1> alex_mayorga: specs?
[00:47] <moDumass> how wouold i change permissions on an sd ?
[00:47] <WebcamWonder> Guys, is rsync the best way to keep an exact replica of a directory inside another directory?
[00:48] <onetinsoldier> nealmcb: is that working out for you?
[00:48] <alex_mayorga> unr3a1: P4, nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 440 Go]
[00:48] <nealmcb> onetinsoldier: I'm amazed at how hidden that option is.  but it seems to have almost worked.  but I still see - sd 26:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk - in /var/log/messages - who is doing that??  then it is automatically unmounted I guess: usb 7-1: USB disconnect, address 43
[00:48] <koshar1> WebcamWonder: buddo about best but its definately one of the fastest
[00:48] <unr3a1> alex_mayorga: what problems are you having installing ubuntu?
[00:49] <onetinsoldier> nealmcb: i think it FUSE
[00:49] <alex_mayorga> unr3a1: a rainbow of colors instead of gdm see https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/xorg-server/+bug/146706
[00:49] <donavan> d3rgps31: came right up for me on ubuntu 8.1 using firefox 3.0.5  ... so its not the site being a pain ...can you ping the site or tracert it from the linux distro?
[00:49] <allquixotic> Decepticon: Do you have any example SWF files that I can try? Any proof of concept that you wouldn't mind giving away?
[00:49] <alex_mayorga> let me snap a picture of it to attach to the bugger :)
[00:49] <D3RGPS31> donavan no
[00:49] <Decepticon> allquixotic try http://decepticon.rlogin.org/~decepticon/school/knight2e/0000.swf
[00:49] <WebcamWonder> koshar1: Ok. Then I just want to confirm the command line arguments. I am currently doing a rsync -vr --delete /original /backup. Any other parameter that I need to add to sync 2 local directories?
[00:49] <meoblast001> hi again
[00:50] <onetinsoldier> nealmcb: i think it's the....  gvfs-fuse  ...package. not sure though
[00:50] <unr3a1> alex_mayorga, is this the same for 8.10 intrepid?
[00:50] <nealmcb> onetinsoldier: hmm - interesting!  I've got to run now, but I'll look at that - gvfs-fuse...
[00:50] <onetinsoldier> nealmcb: ok, take care
[00:50] <alex_mayorga> unr3a1: yup
[00:50] <Panarchy> D3RGPS31: Yeah, well I did say GNOME. Although... here's a revised sentence
[00:50] <R1_> !libssl
[00:50] <nealmcb> onetinsoldier: many thanks again!
[00:50] <moDumass> hey all how do i find the mount point for my sd card? and how do i change my home dir, so that this is the mount point?
[00:50] <R1_> !libssl-dev
[00:50] <onetinsoldier> nealmcb: :-)
[00:50] <donavan> d3rgps31: but you said other sites do work ... correct ?
[00:50] <meoblast001> now that i've calmed down and half given up.. i want to know if there is a program where i can put video in it and it stream it to ppl?
[00:50] <D3RGPS31> donavan yes :/
[00:50] <Panarchy> I'm trying to remove everything from ubuntu except network capabilities, a terminal & apt. Does anyone know how I could do this?
[00:50] <R1_> can anyone tell me what the program libssl-dev is for?
[00:51] <meoblast001> i specificall y want to be able to record my desktop and others watch at realtime
[00:51] <D3RGPS31> donavan http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022331
[00:51] <D3RGPS31> donavan that explains it clearly
[00:51] <joeb3_> meoblast001, development libraries for ssl.
[00:51] <koshar1> WebcamWonder that line looks pretty similar to the one u use to sync my mp3 collection, i like to use the progress switch as well
[00:51] <meoblast001> joeb3_: ?
[00:52] <n8tuser> moDumass-> think about it for a minute, you want your /home to be a mount point? what happens do you think to your users directory once you mount a partition on top of /home ?
[00:52] <R1_> can anyone tell me what the program libssl-dev is for?
[00:52] <joeb3_> meoblast001, sorry that was for R1_
[00:52] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: you still around?
[00:52] <n8tuser> R1_-> i will guess  ssl related
[00:52] <white-sheep> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech -- Any idea what 'Configuration for ALSA' does for your festival?
[00:52] <joeb3_> R1_, development libraries for ssl
[00:52] <Panarchy> I'm trying to remove everything from ubuntu except network capabilities, a terminal & apt. Does anyone know how I could do this?
[00:52] <WebcamWonder> koshar1: --progress?
[00:52] <alex_mayorga> where do I go to get X-SWAT team?
[00:52] <n8tuser> R1_-> ies secure socket layer
[00:52] <R1_> joeb3, is it safe to install?
[00:53] <R1_> joeb3_, is it safe to install?
[00:53] <unr3a1> alex_mayorga, you could run feisty until the issue is resolved
[00:53] <allquixotic> Deception: Got it, thanks.
[00:53] <joeb3_> R1_, if you need it, yes.
[00:53] <moDumass> once ive changed permissions with chmod, will that stay beyond the next reboot?
[00:53] <n8tuser> Panarchy-> you can install a fresh  debootstrap and thats a bare minimum
[00:53] <Gehom> So, when I put in my disc, I DO get the boot menu (at least, on this computer). When I put it into the other computer, which has no OS installed, nothing happens.
[00:53] <koshar1> WebcamWonder rsync -r --del -u /music /removable --progress
[00:53] <moDumass> or will i have to re enable everytime
[00:53] <Decepticon> allquixotic i tried "gst-launch-0.10 filesrc location=/home/decepticon/public_html/school/knight2e/0000.swf ! sfwdec ! colorspace ! pngenc ! filesink location=/home/decepticon/0000.png" but i get the error: WARNING: erroneous pipeline: no element "sfwdec"
[00:53] <R1_> I am a new linux user. I have used windows most of my life  and know what's harmful and what's not harmful. How can i tell if any install is going to be harmful  for ubuntu?
[00:53] <donavan> d3rgps31:  I think you may be on to something here with the speed issue ... I just upgraded to 8.1 and I am getting about the same deal with the up/down speeds ... I thought it was just comcast being jerks but I am wondering if its actually the OS
[00:53] <allquixotic> Decepticon: it's swfdec, first of all :)
[00:54] <kroffe> i've got a strange messige now when i started upp ubuntu
[00:54] <koshar1> WebcamWonder i like to know how much longer the command has to run
[00:54] <alex_mayorga> unr3a1: used to work last week, but I don't remember exactly what I did for it to work
[00:54] <WebcamWonder> koshar1: Wait. So the -u switch doesn't overwrite if your backup destination has a filed changed right?
[00:54] <D3RGPS31> donavan :/
[00:54] <Decepticon> allquixotic in that case... i get WARNING: erroneous pipeline: no element "swfdec"
[00:54] <alex_mayorga> unr3a1: Feisty not an option for now, but thanks
[00:55] <WebcamWonder> koshar1: file changed*
[00:55] <allquixotic> Decepticon: try ffdemux_swf
[00:55] <white-sheep> R1_: For now... As long as you use "Add/Remove" and "Syn.Package" under Admin, you should be fine.
[00:55] <white-sheep> R1_: And eventually, you'll learn. ;o
[00:55] <onetinsoldier> donavan: i use comcast and have yet to notice any speed issues or anything strange with my internet service. what are you noticing? is it hard to describe?
[00:55] <unr3a1> alex_mayorga, hmmm.... that's odd that it would work, then suddenly not work
[00:55] <Panarchy> n8tuser: debootstrap?
[00:56] <unr3a1> alex_mayorga, I wish there was some advice besides going for an older version until the newer ones are fixed.
[00:56] <R1_> white-sheep, thanks. I assume like other operating systems, there are viruses out there that may infect linux OS too?
[00:56] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier ever since i switched to 8.10 my internet has beeing having issues
[00:56] <n8tuser> Panarchy-> yes, you read that right,  you can install it and then run debootstrap in a fresh partition so you get a fress basic baseline on a new partition
[00:56] <Decepticon> allquixotic what pacakge to obtain ffdemux_swf
[00:56] <kroffe> what does this mean? "BusyBox v1.10.2 (Ubuntu 1:1.10.2-1ubuntu6) built-in shell (ash)" enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.  (initramfs())
[00:56] <Panarchy> n8tuser: Okay
[00:56] <Org-Mode> !virus | R1
[00:56] <allquixotic> Decepticon: gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[00:56] <Panarchy> Doing that now
[00:56] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: did you install 8.10 fresh? or is this an upgrade?
[00:56] <koshar1> ﻿WebcamWonder not if its newer for eg if i updated a tag
[00:57] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier fresh
[00:57] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: but on the computer i used to upgrade, same thing
[00:57] <white-sheep> R1_: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/security
[00:57] <Gehom> so, if my Ubuntu CD does work, and the computer I'm trying to boot with it refuses to do so, what is my next step?
[00:57] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: roger. i am having zero issues with internet myself with 8.10
[00:57] <donavan> onetinsoldier: well it actually was D3RGPS31 who was initially having the issue with some websites being pricks but I checked his post and was noticing some similarities with his problem and my connection speeds .... I though it might have just been comcast being that I just moved but i also just upgrade so I do know where the problem is really coming from
[00:57] <white-sheep> Gehom: Bad disc reader?
[00:57] <n8tuser> Panarchy-> when i say base, i mean really the basic, no other apps on it,
[00:58] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: do you do a speed test every week?
[00:58] <Gehom> ummm...tried two different ones
[00:58] <Decepticon> allquixotic i have gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg but i cant find ffdemux_swf
[00:58] <Gehom> same thing happened
[00:58] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: no
[00:58] <alexserver_> how can i compile 2.6 kernel with amd74xx module instead of pata_amd ?
[00:58] <white-sheep> Gehom: I don't mean the DVD -- I mean the hardware.
[00:58] <WebcamWonder> koshar1: Ahh. And is there an argument that can skip files if they are actually the same. I am expecting about 99% of the files to be the same, and only a few updates. I am actually rsyncing my logs that is why
[00:58] <Decepticon> allquixotic is that 0000.swf doing anything
[00:58] <donavan> got to reboot guys be back in a few
[00:58] <Gehom> yep. I tried two readers
[00:59] <D3RGPS31> also, it was when i switched to 8.10 that websites began timing out
[00:59] <Org-Mode> WebcamWonder: check out Grsync
[00:59] <allquixotic> Deception: Not yet; I'm having an issue where I can't start ffdemux_swf (even though I have the plugin itself) because libjinglexmpp is not shipped with Ubuntu 9.04-devel's libjinglexmpp package.
[00:59] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: if you would like me to go to a site to perform one i'm willing though
[00:59] <white-sheep> Gehom: Two readers -- Did you press the said button at BIOS boot to launch boot fromdisc?
[00:59] <WebcamWonder> Org-Mode: Oh. Wow. Let me give that a shot
[00:59] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: h33t.com, with an adblocker and popup blocker; i already know people can visit it on their linux boxes
[01:00] <allquixotic> Decepticon: I'm hitting this bug because I'm running the development version of Ubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libjingle0.3/+bug/305603
[01:00] <allquixotic> But I'll fix it ;)
[01:00] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: i'm lead to believe it's my ethernet card now :/
[01:00] <alexserver_> how can i compile 2.6 kernel with amd74xx module instead of pata_amd ?
[01:00] <Org-Mode> WebcamWonder: Grsync is a frontend for rsync and you can set it to skip files that are already existing, etc its great
[01:00] <Gehom> I set the reader as the first boot device, and then tried to boot. I didn't see a specific button
[01:00] <Panarchy> n8tuser: Okay, sweet
[01:00] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: i have been there, today. when you were on here earlier asking about this issue. i didn't take a close look at the site, but do they have a speed test?
[01:00] <WebcamWonder> Org-Mode: But, does it output the rsync command it is running. I would love to generate the command from this gui and then plug it into a CRON or script file
[01:00] <Decepticon> allquixotic im on 8.10, i can try to run the command you're trying
[01:00] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: no; it's just a torrent website
[01:01] <Gehom> BIOS didn't have any mention of the disc at all
[01:01] <nite_johnboy> Hi - Just installed Ibex on a older Dell Notebook - Wireless WiFi card not working yet - it is a < Broadcom - BCM 94306MP - Rev4 > Any idea's on how to get this working ? ?
[01:01] <Org-Mode> WebcamWonder: yeah you can
[01:01] <koshar1> WebcamWonder the bit where is skips files that are the same is the reason i went with it, it effectively only updated the bits that are new making it a very fast process
[01:01] <n8tuser> Panarchy-> debootstrap is the official way of installation for ubuntu
[01:01] <storm-zen> Thinking about buying a webcam.  Want to get one that works with intrepid.  Does anyone have a recommendation?
[01:01] <chilli0> hello all , i have installed ubuntu today but i get a yellow screen of death when i get past the ubuntu loading stage . i can move the mouse but there is only just a yellowie screen, the version is 8.10 and the compter is a hp  with intel chipset
[01:01] <WebcamWonder> koshar1: So it does that automatically?
[01:01] <alexserver_> how can i compile 2.6 kernel with amd74xx module instead of pata_amd ?
[01:01] <Org-Mode> WebcamWonder: Unison is nice too
[01:01] <nite_johnboy> Everything else works great! Sound, video <Nvidia, Etc >
[01:02] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: now, about the adblocker and pop-up blocker. you're using these? what are you using? i know firefox has a builting pop-up blocker and i believe it told me it blocked pop-up from that site, but what ad-blocker?
[01:02] <harleypig> I updated my system the beginning of this week and the wireless card stopped working.  dmesg shows "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw not available or load failed" ... everything I can find on the web assumes it's a new install.  I've already retried the steps I took to get it to work before.  Any pointers?
[01:02] <white-sheep> Gehom: It doesn't have to say (boot from disc).  Were there a boot menu?
[01:02] <allquixotic> Decepticon: I need to run apt-file to figure out where this shared library is coming from so I can tell you what package to install. A moment.
[01:02] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: i was just warning you, if you were to visit the site
[01:02] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: builtin*
[01:02] <koshar1> WebcamWonder i beleive so, you should just play round with a few examples, thats how i got the line i use down pat,
[01:02] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: ok, roger
[01:02] <WebcamWonder> koshar1: Ahh. Awesome. Thanks! :)
[01:02] <allquixotic> Decepticon: Install gstreamer0.10-plugins-farsight
[01:02] <WebcamWonder> Org-Mode: Thanks for your help too :)
[01:02] <Org-Mode> anytime
[01:02] <allquixotic> Decepticon: Then you will have ffdemux_swf if I am reading this correctly
[01:03] <Gehom> the BIOS boot menu just asked which device was the primary boot device.
[01:03] <R1_> white-sheep, thanks for the read.  Very insightful. Wow i never knew linux systems were so strong and secure
[01:03] <D3RGPS31> what do i do now, that i know where the problem is?
[01:03] <white-sheep> R1_: No problem. ;)
[01:03] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: i have no idea, i don't have the problem and i don't know why you do
[01:03] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31-> problem for what?
[01:03] <chilli0> hello all , i have installed ubuntu today but i get a yellow screen of death when i get past the ubuntu loading stage . i can move the mouse but there is only just a yellowie screen, the version is 8.10 and the compter is a hp  with intel chipset
[01:03] <WebcamWonder> Decepticon: What are you exactly trying to do? I came in a little late
[01:04] <Decepticon> allquixotic well i got gstreamer0.10-plugins-farsight, cant seem to find ffdemux_swf
[01:04] <Decepticon> WebcamWonder i want to take a file like http://decepticon.rlogin.org/~decepticon/school/knight2e/0000.swf and turn it into a png or jpg or bmp
[01:04] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser internet, i have the crazy idea my hardware or driver is timing out specific sites
[01:04] <conal> newbie question: where can i put my LD_LIBRARY_PATH def so that it's picked up and passed into my emacs environment, which is started automatically at log in?  i've put export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/local/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH" in my ~/.bashrc, which is sourced from .profile.  i pick it up when i start a shell, but it's not known in my emacs process.
[01:04] <Gehom> When I put in the disc and pressed a key (as it prompted), it continued to tell me to put in the boot media
[01:05] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31-> it is resolved now
[01:05] <n8tuser> ?
[01:05] <koshar1> Decepticon cant you jsut use print screen?
[01:05] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: ?
[01:05] <white-sheep> conal: Did you run the command -- bash ?
[01:05] <Decepticon> koshar1 the swf file, when scaled properly, is too big to print screen
[01:05] <allquixotic> Decepticon: Does the file /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstffmpeg.so exist on your system ?
[01:05] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31-> it is resolved now?
[01:05] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: no
[01:05] <Decepticon> allquixotic, yes it does
[01:05] <onetinsoldier> n8tuser: no.. he's still having the problem. can access the site in macosx and windows.. but not from linux
[01:05] <Decepticon> allquixotic -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 196036 2008-10-07 06:01 /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstffmpeg.so
[01:05] <storm-zen> no one here has a web cam to recommend for intrepid?
[01:06] <alexserver_> how can i compile 2.6 kernel with amd74xx module instead of pata_amd ?
[01:06] <conal> white-sheep: if i start up bash, the variable is defined there.  however, emacs starts up another process (the haskell interpreter), and LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not defined there.
[01:06] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> i can access it with no issues, im on linux
[01:06] <chilli0> hello all , i have installed ubuntu today but i get a yellow screen of death when i get past the ubuntu loading stage . i can move the mouse but there is only just a yellowie screen, the version is 8.10 and the compter is a hp  with intel chipset
[01:06] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: good for you; i can't... not even from the livecd, so that's why i'm saying it's the hardware or driver
[01:06] <allquixotic> Decepticon: That file is the one which provides ffdemux_swf on my system. So maybe it's new in Jaunty. The actual demuxer has been available on older systems I've used, so I'm puzzled by that.
[01:06] <onetinsoldier> n8tuser: same here, and others have said they can access it too. weird that he can't
[01:06] <Decepticon> koshar1 in addition to being too big, theres multiple files, using print screen is not a viable option for a scripted process
[01:06] <harleypig> I've been told the latest kernels have support for bcm43xx in the kernel ... perhaps the original steps are actually causing the problem?
[01:07] <white-sheep> conal: I can't be sure.  I usually declare all of my alias + path in .bashrc + .profile + .bash_aliases.
[01:07] <koshar1> Decepticon could you do a few screen prints and stitch them with the gimp
[01:07] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> ipv6 on yours enabled?  disable it
[01:07] <Decepticon> koshar1 im talking about 1400 files
[01:07] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022331 >.>
[01:07] <Decepticon> koshar1 id rather not
[01:07] <koshar1> Decepticon ok i see
[01:07] <hashbrowns> hey does anyone know if there is a way to force the wubi installer to use 150GB of space instead of just 30GB?
[01:07] <n8tuser> onetinsoldier -> i suspect there are some ipv6 name resolution thats causing it to fail
[01:08] <koshar1> does vlc support sw? i know it does flash
[01:08] <magikid> I have a quick question, if I create a Truecrypt file with ext3 file system will I be able to mount it under windows?
[01:08] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: that post tells you everything you need to know about my problems, ipv6 us disabled
[01:08] <n8tuser> hashbrowns -> you can expand the partition ?
[01:08] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: i have something you can consider trying, if you haven't already. i doubt it'll solve the issue. but hey, you never know! and that is to close out firefox... then rename your .mozilla directory and start up firefox and try it again
[01:08] <white-sheep> hashbrowns: Why don't you install Ubuntu on it? ;)
[01:08] <bonhoffer> on my eeepc 1000h netbeans run very fast in winxp -- but on my ubuntu 8.10, it runs amazingly slow -- anything i can do about this (2gb ram)
[01:08] <onetinsoldier> n8tuser: perhaps. he claims he has disabled ipv6 though
[01:08] <simmerz> i keep losing sound under intrepid. it looks like pulseaudio dies but the audio device still says it's busy if i try and run pulseaudio. any ideas?
[01:09] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: if i can't ping it, i can't use a different user agent to access it, and lynx doesn't work, that won't either
[01:09] <traskeee> bonhoffer: i run openbox on my eee 900, smoooth (xcept for firefox, it blows)
[01:10] <bonhoffer> well firefox could be the culprit
[01:10] <bonhoffer> how do i see my ram usage on ubuntu?
[01:10] <hashbrowns> white-sheep: well the wubi installer makes a file inside of windows to use instead of having a regular partiiton.  I chose to do it this way cause nobody could help me with my dualbooting problems but I could get it to install/dualboot correctly via wubi but there is a 30GB cap in the drop down box during the install process.  Do you know how to change/override this value?
[01:10] <alexserver_> how can i compile 2.6 kernel with amd74xx module instead of pata_amd ?
[01:10] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: i can't ping it either. and sites can configure their firewall to not respond to pings(pongs not allowed). keep in mind.. i cannot ping it, but i can access it!
[01:10] <white-sheep> bonhoffer: You use Ubuntu custom-tailored for EEE or you install Ubuntu 8.10 directly?  Using Ubuntu-EEE would probably dramatically reduce your resources.
[01:10] <traskeee> bonhoffer: i use a highly configurable gui conky, shows all kinda system info
[01:10] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: i hate you D:
[01:11] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: sorry
[01:11] <Decepticon> allquixotic any more ideas
[01:11] <Tillotson> bonhoffer: "free"
[01:11] <allquixotic> Decepticon: I have a feeling the Ubuntu build scripts which create the gstreamer plugins packages are not building in swfdec support. It's not nice, because swfdec appears to be supported in gstreamer.
[01:11] <Tillotson> into terminal
[01:11] <dgar1> !ram | bonhoffer
[01:11] <traskeee> white-sheep: bonhoffer yeah special kernel also boosts it al
[01:11] <bonhoffer> white-sheep, intially installed ubuntu-eee -- but stripped down the window manager
[01:11] <storm-zen> WebcamWonder: Why do you go by 'Webcamwonder' ?
[01:11] <bonhoffer> afaik, it is vanilla 8.10
[01:11] <chilli0> linux has a yellow screen of death
[01:11] <chilli0> hello all , i have installed ubuntu today but i get a yellow screen of death when i get past the ubuntu loading stage . i can move the mouse but there is only just a yellowie screen, the version is 8.10 and the compter is a hp  with intel chipset
[01:11] <hashbrowns> Is there a way to increase the amount of disk that wubi will allocate to ubuntu to be 150GB?
[01:12] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: try my suggestion. it only take a few seconds, and if it doesn't work, then you can rename your original .mozilla dir back to .mozilla
[01:12] <WebcamWonder> storm-zen: A nick I chose a few years back. It is now mostly restricted to IRC usage
[01:12] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> whats this /etc/modprobe.d/aliases  ? and your entry has domain (STATE).rr.com  ?  are you looking at the correct file?
[01:12] <simmerz> any idea how to get my sound operational so it doesn't keep crashing on me?
[01:12] <storm-zen> WebcamWonder: Any relation to webcams?  I'm trying to determine a good one to get for intrepid.
[01:12] <bonhoffer> Mem:       2064440    1910632     153808
[01:12] <WebcamWonder> storm-zen: I don't even own a webcam :)
[01:12] <bonhoffer> ^^ looks like my problem
[01:12] <allquixotic> Decepticon: If you are familiar with compiling stuff from source, then I suggest you download the latest gstreamer-plugins-bad package here: http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/src/gst-plugins-bad/gst-plugins-bad-0.10.9.tar.bz2 and install appropriate -dev packages (such as libgstreamer0.10-dev and libswfdec-0.8-dev) then build from source.
[01:12] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: i posted it 'cause someone found it usefull yesterday, i'm not putting all my info in that post >.<
[01:12] <storm-zen> WebcamWonder: What a disappointing misnomer. :p
[01:12] <bonhoffer> how do i see what apps are using memory (via free?)
[01:13] <WebcamWonder> Decepticon: You mean like this? I just extracted this from the swf you gave the link to http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/120933/pic140.jpg
[01:13] <meoblast001> does icecast stream video?
[01:13] <Tillotson> bonhoffer: ps aux
[01:13] <Decepticon> WebcamWonder thats 404
[01:13] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: wait i do have the wrong file :/
[01:13] <nite_johnboy> Hi - What is best way to get wireless card on my Dell notebook working?
[01:13] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> gigo == garbage in garbage out..  we need to get the correct info or else
[01:13] <Decepticon> WebcamWonder thats error 404
[01:13] <white-sheep> bonhoffer: I usually use pydf + htop
[01:13] <Tillotson> bonhoffer: sorry "top"
[01:13] <WebcamWonder> Decepticon: Yeah hold on. Dropbox is acting up
[01:14] <traskeee> bonhoffer: conky also by default shows top 5 mem swallowers, but both gnome and kde have made system manager programs listing it all if ur more into guis
[01:14] <Decepticon> allquixotic thats a bit too much for a simple task :(
[01:14] <alexserver_> how can i compile 2.6 kernel with amd74xx module instead of pata_amd ?
[01:14] <chilli0> hello all , i have installed ubuntu today but i get a yellow screen of death when i get past the ubuntu loading stage . i can move the mouse but there is only just a yellowie screen, the version is 8.10 and the compter is a hp  with intel chipset
[01:14] <allquixotic> Decepticon: OK, then if you can wait I will provide you a .deb package (of course, completely unsupported in any way by Canonical, or likely anyone else but me) which contains a compiled version of gstreamer-plugins-bad with swfdec support
[01:15] <bonhoffer> i am on gnome (with metacity)
[01:15] <WebcamWonder> Decepticon: Try now. http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/120933/pic140.jpg
[01:15] <hacksins> euh bonjour ?
[01:15] <white-sheep> hashbrowns: Check this guide out -- Look for resize virtual disk -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[01:15] <Panarchy> Okay, as soon as ubuntu finished installing, I'll be running debootstrap
[01:15] <Org-Mode> Im trying to install Ta-spring game engine (on their site they have instructions for Hardy) but i keep getting Unmet depenedencies, is it ok to bypass that and if so how ?
[01:15] <hacksins> french ?
[01:15] <Wicked> hmm when i copy paste something does it get written or stored to disk?
[01:15] <Decepticon> WebcamWonder, the jpg is not a complete snapshot of the swf file
[01:15] <FiremanEd> !fr | hacksins
[01:16] <onetinsoldier> Wicked: you mean the clipboard?
[01:16] <hacksins> oki
[01:16] <WebcamWonder> Decepticon: Oh. So you want the entire rendered flash movie screen captured?
[01:16] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: there, it's right
[01:16] <chilli0> hello all , i have installed ubuntu today but i get a yellow screen of death when i get past the ubuntu loading stage . i can move the mouse but there is only just a yellowie screen, the version is 8.10 and the compter is a hp  with intel chipset
[01:16] <Wicked> onetinsoldier, hmm that me be it...how can i see whats been copy pasted?
[01:16] <white-sheep> Org-Mode: How do you install -- You should try 'sudo aptitude install' -- It should install the dependencies too.
[01:16] <hacksins> Et ubuntu fr on le rejoint comment ?
[01:16] <Decepticon> WebcamWonder, yes i want the entire swf, what appears in the browser to you, in a picture file, like a png or a jpg or a bmp
[01:17] <nuxleee> bonhoffer: gnome-system-manager or sudo apt-get install gnome-system-manager && gnome-system-manager
[01:17] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> there? where is there?
[01:17] <Org-Mode> white-sheep: i added the sources in /etc/apt/sources.list and 'sudo apt-get install spring-engine'
[01:17] <nuxleee> should help you get the ram thief killed
[01:17] <WebcamWonder> Decepticon: And screenshot doesn't work b/c it is too big for browser?
[01:17] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: the post you said needed the right info
[01:18] <white-sheep> Org-Mode: Try sudo aptitude install spring-engine
[01:18] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> i dont keep url for wrong infos, where is it?
[01:18] <onetinsoldier> Wicked: there are some clipboard programs, probably some already on default installation eve, but i'm not familiar with them. however, i'm sure several things will show up if you do an...  apt-cache search clipboard   ...or search in Synaptic
[01:18] <moDumass> hey all, how do i cut down the size of my ubuntu install, icve got iut up and runnung on my eee pc, but the hdd is only 4 gigs and im at 3.3 now
[01:18] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> ie repaste the  link here
[01:18] <white-sheep> !hardware | chilli0
[01:18] <Decepticon> WebcamWonder screenshot does not work because it requires scaling up of the swf to an appropriate size... this appropriate size is 1.6 times the real size (since it is vector, it is ok to do this), but this resulting size is too big to fit on my screen to take a screenshot of in 1 shot without gimping around and stitching
[01:18] <white-sheep> chilli0:  This may be the reason why -- Check your hardware
[01:18] <Org-Mode> white-sheep: same issue
[01:18] <Wicked> onetinsoldier, hmm ok. ill take a look thanks
[01:18] <allquixotic> Decepticon: are you using 32-bit or 64-bit?
[01:19] <Decepticon> allquixotic 32
[01:19] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6440821
[01:19] <allquixotic> good!
[01:19] <allquixotic> me too
[01:19] <onetinsoldier> Wicked: just now i did the follwing command..  apropos clipboard  ....result --> xclipboard (1)       - X clipboard client
[01:20] <onetinsoldier> Wicked: you're welcome
[01:20]  * MatBoy is happy with 8.04 again !!
[01:20] <white-sheep> Org-Mode: Send me the link -- Instruction.
[01:21] <simmerz> can anyone help me work out why my sound doesn't work any more? it works when i first log in, then dies. and i can't restart pulseaudio
[01:21] <WebcamWonder> Decepticon: This is what I found. But I doubt it will work with Mono properly. http://bytescout.com/swftoimagegui.html
[01:21] <Org-Mode> white-sheep: http://spring.clan-sy.com/wiki/Ubuntu_install    (theres 8.04 and 8.10, i need 8.04)
[01:22] <Org-Mode> glad to hear that MatBoy :)  8.04 rocks, its a LTS so you really cant go wrong with it.
[01:22] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> the nameserver you are using is not working
[01:23] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: nameserver = DNS?
[01:23] <white-sheep> Org-Mode: I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 -- You tried both GUI + CLI?
[01:23] <nite_johnboy> Will a "NDiswrapper" driver work for my Dell notebook Wifi card ?
[01:23] <MatBoy> Org-Mode: yes and now I have not installed compiz on my 4 screen setup at all (I disabled it before) itś even faster :) but 8.10 sucks big time :(
[01:23] <onetinsoldier> n8tuser: you are probably about to become his hero :-)
[01:23] <Org-Mode> yea white-sheep
[01:23] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: this is the nameserver given to me, it has to be right
[01:23] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> yes DNS is a name server
[01:24] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: it works under mac and windows :/
[01:24] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> well i tested the nameserver you used, and it is not responding
[01:24] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: you wouldn't be willing to give me yours would you :D
[01:24] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> verify the nameserver  again please
[01:24] <R1_> hello, i'm looking for a way to backup my entire ubuntu. Anybody have any suggestions as to how  or what program would i use to do it
[01:24] <white-sheep> Org-Mode: Try sudo aptitude remove
[01:24] <white-sheep> Then sudo aptitude update
[01:24] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: 24,92.226.40/41
[01:25] <white-sheep> sudo aptitude install (the said package)
[01:25] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> have at it,  68.94.156.1  or 68.94.157.1
[01:25] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: nameserver translates a site name to its IP address?
[01:25] <onetinsoldier> n8tuser: doesn't the resolv.conf get re-written each time networking is started? i even had someone come in here that said thaey needed to stop that. i told them...  chattr -i <file>  ...hehe
[01:26] <Org-Mode> white-sheep: it refuses to install without those dependencies
[01:26] <n8tuser> onetinsoldier -> well it depends on how the dhclient is configured
[01:26] <onetinsoldier> n8tuser: ahhh, i see. thanks
[01:26] <white-sheep> Use aptitude from this point on.
[01:26] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> thats its main function yes
[01:26] <white-sheep> !aptitude | Org-Mode
[01:26] <Decepticon> WebcamWonder icant get that to make the resulting image zoomed in. its zoomed way too out, no matter the resolution
[01:26] <R1_> hello, i'm looking for a way to backup my entire ubuntu. Anybody have any suggestions as to how  or what program would i use to do it
[01:26] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: i've tried connecting with h33t's ip, fails the same
[01:27] <dgar1> R1_: rsnapshot
[01:27] <FiremanEd> !backup | R1_
[01:27] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> what ip you are getting for h33t.com ?
[01:27] <Org-Mode> white-sheep: yea i know what aptitude is i used to use it before i started uses apt-get
[01:27] <WebcamWonder> Decepticon: Well... that is about it I guess. I have ran out of ideas. I don't think you can find something that will convert your swf into an image and zoom in at the same time. Sorry
[01:27] <onetinsoldier> R1_: you could check out the 'dd' command, or this utility Ghost for Unix --> http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/
[01:27] <meoblast001> hi
[01:28] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: 87.233.179.135
[01:28] <nuxleee> my machine at home running 8.10 got 35 day uptime, firefox (again) messing up and needs restarts, but not that much worse than 8.04
[01:28] <white-sheep> Org-Mode: I'm not sure about your issue -- Usually it should install the said dependencies -- Alternative, you can install the dependencies manually.
[01:28] <meoblast001> im using recordmydesktop to output some video to my webserver.... how do i have it cut video off the begining so it can be realtimish
[01:28] <Org-Mode> tried that too
[01:28] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> yeah thats correct,  and what happens when you put that in your web browser?
[01:29] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: 'fails the same'
[01:29] <allquixotic> Decepticon: almost there with gst-launch. I don't think it can zoom in either, but with swfdec support, it _should_ be able to grab the full resolution. We'll see.
[01:29] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> error please,  whats the error?
[01:29] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: times out
[01:30] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: "The server at www.h33t.com is taking too long to respond."
[01:30] <doug3> is there a initial guide for 8.10?
[01:30] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> and if you do   telnet  87.233.179.135 80    in a command line?
[01:30] <onetinsoldier> !terminal | doung
[01:30] <onetinsoldier> !terminal | doug3
[01:31] <Pici> doug3: You can start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/index.html
[01:31] <doug3> thx pici
[01:31] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: stalls
[01:31] <onetinsoldier> doug3: alos have a look at http://linuxcommand.org/
[01:32] <doug3> i know the terminal, i just want to set up 8.10 with everything quick, flash, java, best media, fonts, etc.
[01:32] <onetinsoldier> doug3: oh.. i see
[01:32] <onetinsoldier> doug3: you're using 64-bit userspace architecture?
[01:32] <white-sheep> !festival > white-sheep
[01:33] <Org-Mode> !info Festival
[01:33] <Org-Mode> O.o
[01:33] <wash-hasted> /roll
[01:33] <wash-hasted> oops
[01:33] <doug3> onetinsoldier: 32bit
[01:33] <wash-hasted> wrong window
[01:33] <wash-hasted> sorry
[01:34] <white-sheep> Org-Mode: It is when you enable the extra repos. ;)
[01:34] <Org-Mode> ya i know
[01:34] <Org-Mode> Festival is on my repos :)   i have everything except medibuntu stuff
[01:34] <onetinsoldier> doug3: ok, someone besides me should help you with flash then
[01:34] <Decepticon> allquixotic cool, im still messing around with that tool WebcamWonder gave me, it seems ive managed to capture images at 3124x2000 pixels for a decent resolution... but i dont know a way to automate this for each page, since its windows
[01:35] <onetinsoldier> !info festival
[01:35] <white-sheep> !info carnival
[01:35] <WebcamWonder> Decepticon: That tool works? Under Mono or Wine?
[01:35] <Decepticon> WebcamWonder im using it directly under winxp
[01:35] <Decepticon> WebcamWonder ill try wine, but it says it needs net framework 2.0
[01:35] <Org-Mode> oh ok onetinsoldier i see ubottu doesnt like captial letters
[01:36] <WebcamWonder> Decepticon: Oh ok. :)... Well, best of luck goofing around with that thing :)
[01:36] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> can you post the results of  sudo iptables -vL
[01:36] <mfg8876> hey everyone, I just started experiencing linux since last Monday and have been quite frustrated with an extremely annoying and detrimental to my multi-language java project bug that concerns installing any locale. This bug appears to affect kubuntu 64x versions 7.10, 8.04.1, 8.10 and is most likely a 249340 duplicate which has a fix released status for both dapper and gutsy. Anyone care to...
[01:36] <mfg8876> ...take a shot at helping me out?
[01:36] <Org-Mode> hmmm spekaing of Medibuntu is it safe to use in 8.04?
[01:36] <thiebaude> Org-Mode: i use it on 8.04
[01:37] <WebcamWonder> Org-Mode: Use the hardy branch, it is made for 8.04
[01:37] <Org-Mode> speaking*
[01:37] <GodfatherofEire1> Quick question, is there any append function in OO.o 3, I'd ask in their channel, but there's nobody in there
[01:37] <Org-Mode> ok ty both
[01:37] <thiebaude> yw
[01:37] <onetinsoldier> Org-Mode: yes. package names are case sensitive. and i don't believe that any package exists that has a capital letter in it's name(actual name of the package that you'd call with apt-get)
[01:37] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: http://pastebin.com/m2dcfbc55
[01:37] <Org-Mode> onetinsoldier: ok
[01:38] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> you are in livecd?  can you also post the  results of   route -n  ;  ifconfig
[01:39] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: http://pastebin.com/m17f94b18 no, harddrive
[01:39] <paulo> #ubuntu-es
[01:40] <LuserOfTheDay> Hey all.
[01:40] <Rhapsody> I've finally decided I want sound back, and the first step in that would mean killing my broken and busted OSS install. How would I go about eradicating all traces of OSS (Open Sound System) from my PC?
[01:41] <allquixotic> Rhapsody: They have a script for that which ships with the OSS4 install if you're using the one from opensound.com
[01:41] <allquixotic> it's like ossuninstall.sh or something
[01:42] <nitesh> I just got comcast internet connection installed and I cant use it with my Ubuntu box. How do I start trouble shooting?
[01:42] <allquixotic> better a question for the 4-front forums though, http://www.4front-tech.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5905
[01:42] <Rhapsody> It's worth a try. I had an OSS 4.0 install that broke when I did some updates, so I installed a developmental OSS 4.1 build, which probably made things worse.
[01:42] <allquixotic> Rhapsody: OSS kernel panics when trying to load the module that interfaces with my hw :)
[01:43] <allquixotic> Rhapsody: follow that thread i linked you to, it has instructions
[01:43] <Decepticon> allquixotic ok it looks like theres varying resolutions on each of hte swfs... so this tool is kind of useless
[01:43] <KillerOrca> I just cloned my harddirve to a new one, took out the old one, re-installed grub and now when I boot I get a blue screen, any ideas?
[01:43] <allquixotic> Decepticon: and it's on Windows so of course it's useless ;-)
[01:43] <Rhapsody> Nasty. The only time I saw Linux kernel panic was upon booting my old PC after it had been dropped on the floor.
[01:44] <allquixotic> Decepticon: I'm grabbing about 9234923 dependencies to get this gstreamer-plugins-bad compiled. :-/
[01:44] <Decepticon> allquixotic holy crap
[01:44] <allquixotic> well not literally that many
[01:44] <allquixotic> but tens.
[01:44] <Decepticon> allquixotic well does the conversion have any indication of being functional on your system before we attempt to make it work on mine?
[01:45] <allquixotic> Decepticon: Once I get the swfdec plugin compiled I'll let you know ;)
[01:45] <Decepticon> allquixotic is there anyway to take a screenshot of a webpage containing a flash object like http://decepticon.rlogin.org/~decepticon/school/knight2e/gametime3.php?hscale=1.6&wscale=1.6&fileno=0000
[01:45] <Flynsarmy> Any idea why dd would be takin gup most of my CPU? I don't have anything open besides firefox, xchat, pidgin and cgmail.
[01:46] <meoblast001> anyone know of any streaming video server & c lient software? not VLC though cuz that requires the viewer have VLC
[01:46] <white-sheep> Flynsarmy: Use htop and find out what's eating up your CPU.
[01:46] <allquixotic> Decepticon: if you have an http URL that leads directly to the .swf file, you can go out and grab that directly using gstreamer.
[01:46] <allquixotic> i.e. gst-launch-0.10
[01:46] <KillerOrca> I get a blue screen on boot after cloning my install, anyone have any ideas?
[01:46] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> i suspect that it is your ISP blocking that site for their own reasons like stopping torrents perhaps
[01:47] <Decepticon> allquixotic i just have a php script that acts as a container for the swf file ... otherwise i have direct links to the swf files as well
[01:47] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: then why can i view it on mac and windows
[01:47] <Flynsarmy> white-sheep, /sbin/klogd -P /var/run/klog/kmsg
[01:47] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> can you elaborate on your network layout?
[01:48] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: Cable>Modem>Computer
[01:48] <allquixotic> Decepticon: you need to get your PHP script to basically redirect to the SWF file itself if you want to take arbitrary URLs and get the PNG out of them
[01:48] <Hilikus> how do i give specific access to a user to be able to mount and unmount the cdrom? ive found info on how to let ANY user do this, but i want it just for a specific user
[01:48] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> and your windows and vista are where?
[01:48] <Flynsarmy> white-sheep, it's fighting /sbin/syslogd -u syslog for my CPU
[01:48] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: mac and windows* same computer
[01:48] <Decepticon> allquixotic thats beyond my scope :/
[01:49] <white-sheep> Flynsarmy: I only give you the name of the package that allow you to determine the source of the problem. ;)
[01:49] <Rhapsody> Well, ossxmix doesn't exist any more. I'll take that as a good sign.
[01:49] <allquixotic> Deception in what way is the swf "contained" in the resulting HTML of the output?
[01:49] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> i forgot, you are on livecd now?
[01:49] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: no
[01:49] <Flynsarmy> anyone know why klogd and syslogd would be going nuts taking up all my CPU?
[01:49] <nbeebo> ive installed ubuntu live cd on usb and how do i boot?
[01:50] <garou> Hi. I want to have a file of defined size that I can mount as an encrypted file system. Windows support is a plus, but optional. What project should I look into?
[01:50] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> set your bios to boot from usb first.
[01:50] <KillerOrca> I get a blue screen on boot after cloning my install, anyone have any ideas?
[01:50] <nbeebo> how to boot USB?
[01:50] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> nbeebo,  set your bios to boot from usb first.
[01:51] <white-sheep> garou: TrueCrypt -- I suppose.
[01:51] <Rhapsody> It'd probably be best to reboot before trying to install OSS again.
[01:51] <Panarchy> n8tuser: Okay, installed ubuntu 8.10 and debootstrap
[01:51] <Panarchy> Now what?
[01:51] <Rhapsody> quit
[01:51] <Rhapsody> Ugh.
[01:51] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> and you dont have any of those like dansguardian installed that block websites for you?
[01:51] <nbeebo> courpse|dead, at the beginning i press f12 to change boot device, theres 3 different usbes tried them all, so ur sure it will work from bios instead?
[01:51] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: no
[01:51] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> you installed the debootstrap on a separate partition?
[01:52] <Panarchy> n8tuser: using VMWare
[01:52] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> nbeebo, im never sure, it was just a susgestion.
[01:52] <R1_> Hi, i know this may be a stupid question, but a Swap Partition just acts like Memory or Ram right? There is nothing valuable needed in there?
[01:52] <Panarchy> So no, I don't think I did
[01:52] <nbeebo> CoUrPsE|DeAd, k .. thanks ill try
[01:52] <D3RGPS31> R1_ nothing at all :D
[01:52] <Diiphantom> !iso-mount
[01:52] <Pici> R1_: Its akin to the pagefile on Windows, its just like a ram extension.
[01:52] <white-sheep> !swap | R1_
[01:52] <Diiphantom> !giso-mount
[01:53] <Diiphantom> !gisomount
[01:53] <Pici> !fishing
[01:53] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> can you also post your   cat /etc/nsswitch.conf   just for kicks
[01:53] <SJr|Nbook> How well does Ubuntu support Netbooks, I'm trying Kubuntu right now but I'm fed up with all it's garbage
[01:53] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: http://pastebin.com/m222d0f16
[01:54] <Panarchy> n8tuser: What command please
[01:54] <R1_> Thanks guys
[01:54] <white-sheep> SJr|Nbook -- How well?  It'll run well on notebooks just about same as on the computer -- Size, speed, and resources make the differences
[01:54] <n8tuser> D3RGPS31 -> same configs as mine..hmm im stumped at the moment
[01:54] <white-sheep> !hardware | SJr|Nbook
[01:54] <onetinsoldier> Hilikus: hi. i think that may depend on whether a user is part of the 'cdrom'  and 'wheel' groups. if he's not, then he cannot mount the cdrom and if he is then he can? i'm not 100% certain, but i think that is how it works
[01:55] <D3RGPS31> n8tuser: :/
[01:55] <onetinsoldier> Hilikus: hence, my question mark
[01:55] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> you have a separate partition?
[01:55] <garou> Nobody knowledgable about encrypted fs'?
[01:55] <SJr|Nbook> I'm not talking about Hardware, I'm talking about usability. Like Windows that aren't too big, etc
[01:55] <Panarchy> n8tuser: what size should I make the other partition? Also, what should I make it? ext3? reiser?
[01:55] <axisys> looking for a way to ssh to multiple servers and edit a file simultaneously w/o using ssh key
[01:56] <Panarchy> SJr|Nbook: Try install fluxbuntu
[01:56] <SJr|Nbook> I tried installing fluxbox blek :P
[01:56] <Panarchy> lol
[01:56] <weternal> hey I've got a question about installing 8.10 as a dual boot, I'm in the partition screen and it's offering me an option to do a guided partition, but not to resize the partition.  I want to set up a dual boot, and it's not giving me an option.  The other os is OSX.4 and the disk is already partitioned.  would "guided-use largest contiguous free space" do the trick?
[01:56] <Panarchy> There was another good one... enlightenment
[01:56] <SJr|Nbook> I want something that still looks kinda sexy, not something that was featured in WarGames.
[01:56] <Panarchy> n8tuser: what size should I make the other partition? Also, what should I make it? ext3? reiser?
[01:56] <n8tuser> /usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch i386 gutsy /mountpointhere/newpartitionhere http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[01:57] <Panarchy> SJr|Nbook: ubuntu
[01:57] <Panarchy> lol
[01:57] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> /usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch i386 gutsy /mountpointhere/newpartitionhere http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[01:57] <Pilot_51> does anyone know how to share an alsa input device among multiple applications in intrepid?
[01:57] <onetinsoldier> SJr|Nbook: icewm?
[01:57] <SJr|Nbook> Panarchy I should just be able to install gnome-desktop right?
[01:57] <Panarchy> oh, maybe have a look at OpenSuSE's GNOME
[01:57] <Panarchy> yeah
[01:57] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> make it like umm 5-6gig
[01:57] <Panarchy> Wow
[01:57] <Panarchy> that big
[01:58] <Panarchy> well in VMWare, it made an 8GB hard-drive by default
[01:58] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> if you plan to add things to it later..
[01:58] <Panarchy> n8tuser: I can just remove the partition then extend it straight away, right?
[01:58] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> make it 2 gig if you wish
[01:58] <nitesh> I just got comcast internet connection installed and I cant use it with my Ubuntu box. How do I start trouble shooting?
[01:59] <Panarchy> n8tuser: After I've done debootstrap, I can just remove that partition then extend my other partition straight away.... right?
[01:59] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> you are installing this on a VM ?
[01:59] <Panarchy> Yes
[01:59] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> on a VM you only have one partition right? or you have multiples?
[01:59] <allquixotic> Decepticon: sounds like the source of the problem is that ffmpeg's swf decoding (which is done via an external library) can't work with compressed SWFs, which yours are. [swf @ 0x9f0da70]Compressed SWF format not supported
[02:00] <peppered2> Peppered1 and I are trying to set up 2.1 sound on an Ubuntu 8.10 box with a Sound Blaster Live! card. The issue is, we've got three different cables: One for each speaker, and one for the sub. Can someone talk us through configuring it, from step one?
[02:00] <Panarchy> n8tuser: I only have the one partition (well two including swap)
[02:00] <Sindacious> Hi, if possible could someone could, pm me info on how to make ubuntu on a laptop output on another screen (monitor) my backlight has gone out on my laptop
[02:01] <onetinsoldier> nitesh: i'm not all that good with networking. but in your problem description, include pastebin url's. i recommend you start with a pastebin of the output of the following command --> ifconfig -a
[02:01] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> okay, so you will have everything in one partition / and /home
[02:01] <ravenousllama> hello everyone, i have a quick question.
[02:01] <Panarchy> n8tuser: yep
[02:01] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> /usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch i386 gutsy /mountpointhere/newpartitionhere http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[02:01] <ravenousllama> does anyone know how to make the trash icon appear on the desktop?
[02:01] <n8tuser> something like that
[02:02] <ozgur> Hi all, can someone help me to set up gcc or any other C language compilers to my ubuntu?
[02:02] <Panarchy> n8tuser: Using x86 version of ubuntu-desktop.iso, just did a clean install, so if you could tell me the exact command, I'd appreciate it
[02:02] <n8tuser> ravenousllama -> gconf-editor and look in volume manager perhaps?
[02:02] <billybigrigger> what is the best sounding music player for gnome? totem? vlc? xmms? i want something lightweight and has good sound
[02:02] <ravenousllama> n8tuser, i can check
[02:02] <Panarchy> WMP11
[02:02] <Lillymon> Sounding? They all sound the same don't they?
[02:03] <nitesh> oneytinsoldier: Currently I am on a windows machine as ubuntu is not able to get an IP address even after setting it to DHCP. I think cable only recognizes MAC address of my windows laptop, but I am not sure.
[02:03] <ravenousllama> billybigrigger, i suppose the sound would have more to do with the decoder than the player
[02:03] <L3Tum> I need to find the exact model of motherboard I have. I had a few programs in windows that showed everything about my computer, but I have ubuntu now and can't seem to find any programs like this. Anyone have any suggestions?
[02:03] <Pilot_51> um... any help?
[02:03] <wash-hasted> i just compile through the text editor
[02:03] <white-sheep> billybigrigger: You mean you want a good music / media player?
[02:03] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> you have a new install of VM ?
[02:03] <ozgur> Hi all, can someone help me to set up gcc or any other C language compilers to my ubuntu?
[02:03] <wash-hasted> ofcourse g++ needs to be installed first
[02:03] <billybigrigger> white-sheep, correct
[02:03] <onetinsoldier> nitesh: roger, include what kind of network card you are using in your problem description then
[02:04] <Panarchy> n8tuser: 6.5.1
[02:04] <ravenousllama> n8tuser, how do i get to gconf?
[02:04] <Dante123> hi all, I am running ubuntu 8.04 and want to use update manager to update to 8.10.....does anyone envisage any problems?? warnings?? reminders?? (I do run virtualbox and need that to work after update as well)
[02:04] <Panarchy> n8tuser: Just finished now, only thing I've done is sudo apt-get install debootstrap
[02:04] <n8tuser> ravenousllama -> on a terminal you type that   gconf-editor
[02:04] <ravenousllama> ah
[02:04] <onetinsoldier> !upgrade | Dante123
[02:05] <white-sheep> !players | billybigrigger
[02:05] <terli> Flannel, why does 'yes ihateyou > /dev/audio ' and 'yes iloveyou > /dev/audio ' make the same sound?
[02:05] <nitesh> oneytinsoldier: I am connecting using ethernet cable. I am using a wired cable modem, my wireless router has not arrived yet.
[02:05] <allquixotic> Decepticon: OK: I got the open source program Gnash to display your SWF, even though it's compressed.... now to capture the output ;)
[02:05] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> umm im going to wing it for the VM, i have not used a vm to install using debootstrap before
[02:05] <Dante123> ﻿onetinsoldier I will check that....also would you have any qualms about upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10????
[02:05] <Panarchy> I'll run a uname then
[02:05] <Decepticon> allquixotic i tried gnash, but i dont see where to go with it... you'd have to scale it 1.6 but even then its too big for my screen resolution
[02:06] <Dante123> ﻿L3Tum you could run and/or install hwinfo from terminal
[02:06] <ravenousllama> n8tuser, what exactly would i be looking for?
[02:06] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> make a filesystem on that VM  /  partition
[02:06] <Pilot_51> who here knows how to use alsa properly?
[02:06] <onetinsoldier> nitesh: it should be fairly straightforward then. what is the problem when you try to get online?
[02:06] <weternal> hey I'm installing 8.10 for a friend on her mac, and I'm getting stuck at the "Prepare Disk space" Screen
[02:06] <billybigrigger> and since when did xmms2 become a command line server?
[02:06] <L3Tum> Dante123, thanks I'll try that
[02:06] <n8tuser> ravenousllama -> something related to trash  icon?
[02:06] <Panarchy> n8tuser: Okay, i686
[02:06] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> huh?
[02:06] <billybigrigger> i liked xmms but not a big fan of xmm2, xmms was a wicked old school winamp clone i loved it anything like that?
[02:06] <Panarchy> n8tuser: Will do...
[02:06] <ravenousllama> n8tuser, i'm not seeing anything useful.
[02:07] <Panarchy> n8tuser: Architecture
[02:07] <usser> billybigrigger, audacious
[02:07] <Dante123> ﻿L3Tum no problem
[02:07] <weternal> it's asking whether I want 'guided - use entire disk', 'guided - use the largest continuous free space' or 'manual' what should I put
[02:07] <n8tuser> ravenousllama -> which icon thats not being displayed again?
[02:07] <weternal> I want to keep the other operating system
[02:07] <onetinsoldier> Dante123: should be pretty easy. i had someone do it manually without even using the update manager/synaptic package manger the other day. worked fine for them. but sometimes some people have a few issues. but they get worked out
[02:07] <ravenousllama> the trash icon. it's normally on the taskbar, but i want to move it to the desktop
[02:07] <Dante123> ﻿L3Tum you can also do lspci and lsusb to see info about pci cards etc.
[02:07] <white-sheep> billybigrigger -- Try Banshee
[02:07] <R1_> Anyone here have an ipw2200 card patched for injection on  ubuntu?
[02:07] <nitesh> oneytinsoldier: When I plug ethernet cable in my Ubuntu laptop, the network manager tried to request a IP address but fails and I dont even get a IP address.
[02:08] <ravenousllama> but if i remove it from the deskbar, it becomes really annoying to access it.
[02:08] <billybigrigger> white-sheep, i tried banshee last time i tried opensuse and it sucked, im not a big fan of the WMP style or itunes style players that store your whole music list
[02:08] <billybigrigger> white-sheep, i like old skool winamp style players, audacious looks like what i want
[02:08] <Dante123> ﻿onetinsoldier thanks....the main thing I don;t want messed up is my virtualbox xp guests....but I can't forsee any problems there.
[02:08] <n8tuser> ravenousllama -> you have to search around in those folders, or google for a quick answer perhaps
[02:08] <ravenousllama> n8tuser, will do
[02:09] <white-sheep> billybigrigger: Alright.  As long as you find what you're looking for. ;)
[02:09] <bastid_raZor> ravenousllama; in gconf-editor goto apps>nautilus>desktop then select trash_icon_visible
[02:09] <weternal> hey I'm trying to set up a dual boot for ubuntu 8.10 and OSX.4 and it's not offering me a slider in the partition screen of the install
[02:09] <R1_> Anyone here have an ipw2200 card patched for injection on  ubuntu?
[02:10] <peppered2> Hey, can someone help Peppered1 and I set up a sound system around a SB Live! Value card in a private chat?
[02:10] <n8tuser> am glad there are people around whose got excellent memories
[02:10] <Panarchy> n8tuser: Using x86 version of ubuntu-desktop.iso, just did a clean install, so if you could tell me the exact command for both partition and using debootstrap, thanks
[02:10] <ravenousllama> bastid_raZor, thanks that did it.
[02:10] <ravenousllama> okay, second question, does anyone know how to install fonts?
[02:10] <bastid_raZor> ravenousllama; you're welcome
[02:10] <weternal> hey I'm trying to set up a dual boot for ubuntu 8.10 and OSX.4 and it's not offering me a slider in the partition screen of the install
[02:10] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> you are on a VM, i have not created a partition in a VM
[02:11] <onetinsoldier> nitesh: ok, well just keep asking. i probably sholdn't have said anything since i'm not that good with networking. however, i do know my way around  a little, but not enough, sorry. it'd probably still be good for people in here to know what network card(brand/model) it is.
[02:11] <Panarchy> n8tuser: Everything should be just like a normal comp, except i686
[02:11] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> if you were going to use the standard partitions and not the VM, then we can work that out
[02:11] <D3RGPS31> is it safe to update to the latest kernel?
[02:11] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> then do it, do the partition in the VM if you believe its like a normal one
[02:11] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: probably, what version exactly?
[02:11] <bastid_raZor> ravenousllama; this may help :: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=275202
[02:12] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: the latest, i heard something about ext4 >.>
[02:12] <Lillymon> It works! Sound now works! I should come here more often.
[02:12] <L3Tum> Dante123, neither of those three gave me the motherboard model. I tried sysinfo also to no avail
[02:12] <ravenousllama> bastid_raZor, thank you, that's extremely useful.
[02:13] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: well, you mean compile your own? i do that... if i were to do that, it'd be --> 2.6.28
[02:13] <w3wsrmn> L3Tum: mobo info? try sudo dmidecode
[02:13] <Panarchy> n8tuser: Yes, but what are the command (want to learn CLI) is it like fdisk or something?
[02:13] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: yes :D
[02:13] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> yes
[02:14] <Panarchy> n8tuser: Using x86 version of ubuntu-desktop.iso, just did a clean install, I have a i686 architecture, if you could please tell me the exact command for both partitioning and using debootstrap, I'd really appreciate it, thanks
[02:14] <ravenousllama> bastid_raZor, nevermind, it's not working.
[02:14] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: i would think it's be ok to upgrade to it. i only run into one issue myself... my proprietary fglrx(ati) video drivers. have to wait for ati to make the fglrx drivers compatible with newer kernel versions
[02:15] <Panarchy> n8tuser: Using x86 version of ubuntu-desktop.iso, just did a clean install, I have a i686 architecture, if you could please tell me the exact command for both partitioning and using debootstrap, I'd really appreciate it, thanks
[02:15] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> the problem with your setup is, you want to install using the debootstrap on a VM which i dont think it will work, debootstrap install would work in same machine not ina virtual environment
[02:15] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: would you know where to get linux-686-smp
[02:15] <weternal> can someone give me a hand with partitioning my disk on a macbook.  I'm not getting an option that lets me choose how much of the disk I want to allot for Ubuntu.  would 'guided-use the largest continuous free space' do the trick.  The disk is already partitioned.
[02:15] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: want me to compile and run 2.6.28 right now to check it out? i will if you want. i'll just use the vesa driver.
[02:15] <ravenousllama> bastid_raZor, this forum entry was also written for ubuntu 6.10, so it seems to have changed significantly
[02:15] <Panarchy> n8tuser: Haven't had any issues so far, been able to use it exactly as if it was a proper computer
[02:15] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> from your current kernel, you can not just mount the VM partition
[02:15] <weternal> but it's not giving me an option to install in the non-osx partition
[02:15] <allquixotic> Decepticon: does your SWF encapsulate an FLV?
[02:15] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: no
[02:15] <ravenousllama> urrrgh i just wish there was a font manager
[02:15] <Decepticon> allquixotic i do not know?
[02:16] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> think carefully before you make such claims
[02:16] <Panarchy> n8tuser: I'll see how much space I have, then I might install it on my hard-disk
[02:16] <Dante123> ﻿L3Tum cant u look at the motherboard and get a number off there to google
[02:16] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: ok, hehe.  not sure that i know how to help you with that package name
[02:17] <job> i have a question
[02:17] <carandraug> weternal: you can choose manual and choose it yourself
[02:17] <ravenousllama> nevermind i found a website that explains it for 8.04
[02:17] <ravenousllama> okay last question
[02:17] <Pici> !ask | job
[02:18] <job> how to get the mac dock panel for apps?
[02:18] <ravenousllama> how do i set a drive to mount by default? i have a second partition but i have to open it before it mounts the drive
[02:18] <bazhang> !awn > job
[02:18] <Panarchy> n8tuser: Hang on a second, I've got nothing to lose by using as if it were a normal computer, not a virtualised one. So please tell me exactly what to do
[02:18] <weternal> carandraug I've never done a manual partition in the install before
[02:18] <tobz> I'm having an issue with the 8.10 LiveCD installation. I was getting the "initiramfs" issue and solved with with a modified boot line (added all_generic_ide) but now when the installation loads squashfs, it gets stuck. Any thoughts? Google doesn't return much
[02:19] <bastid_raZor> !fstab > ravenousllama
[02:19] <weternal> I've got a table that says
[02:19] <tobz> initramfs*
[02:19] <Spudster> Anyone else seen Vmware Tools use up 100% of the CPU every few seconds on Ubuntu 8.10?  (Running ESXi 3.5 Build 110271)
[02:19] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> i have already told you, create a new partition
[02:19] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: looks like all the kernel version packages are just named 'generic'. don't think there is any specific '686' package
[02:19] <Panarchy> fdisk please
[02:19] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> /usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch i386 gutsy /mountpointhere/newpartitionhere http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[02:19]  * mib_5kxwgb0t has a problem connecting to a wireless network in Ubuntu
[02:20] <weternal> : /dev/sda   /dev/sda1 "fat32"
[02:20] <weternal> /dev/sda2 "hfs+"
[02:20] <L3Tum> Dante123, that worked, thanks
[02:20] <job> obuttu, thank you
[02:20] <Pici> D3RGPS31: You don't need a specific Ubuntu kernel just for SMP, the -generic kernel will do just fine.
[02:20] <job> i will work on that
[02:20] <Panarchy> n8tuser: Thanks for telling me the debootstrap command, now please tell me the partitioning command (think it is fdisk)
[02:20] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> try it,
[02:21] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> am not here to hand hold you all the way
[02:21] <tbrock> hey I'm looking for a developer to mentor me in becoming a developer and get started
[02:21] <bastid_raZor> ravenousllama; this is old but fstab still operates the same then as it does now. :: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[02:21] <Panarchy> n8tuser: ...
[02:21] <mib_5kxwgb0t> Hello people
[02:21] <ravenousllama> bastid_raZor, will check
[02:22] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> man fdisk    you need to do some leg work
[02:22] <mib_5kxwgb0t> Is this a good place, I just installed Ubuntu and I need help conecting to my wireless network if anyone could at all help me with that, I would be very thankful.
[02:22] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: well, since 2.6.28 is now a final kernel version, i'm going to compile it, just for kicks to see if i can install the fglrx driver on it since it's a final now. i really don't think the fgrlx driver will compile for it, but i'm going to try for the heck/fun of it
[02:23] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: tell me what it's like :D
[02:24] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: roger,will do
[02:24] <carandraug> weternal: sorry. I had to leave the computer for a few minutes. I can guide you on the manual install if you wish
[02:25] <Zaphyous> Hi, could someone assist me in making my ubuntu laptop display on an external monitor?
[02:25] <Cody_Duncan> Hello friends.  Bit of an emergency.  I just installed Xubuntu 8.04 on a Dell Dimension 2400, and it started up all fine, but the mouse is not working.  Any takers?
[02:26] <James22> Hello all
[02:26] <job> where is Advanced Desktop Effects Settings.  did not find it in synaptic
[02:26] <bazhang> !ccsm > job
[02:26] <carandraug> job: look for ccsm (compiz configuration settings manager)
[02:27] <James22> I was just playing a video and had to restart my gnome session (installed shared services to share a folder)
[02:27] <James22> now I can't hear any audio
[02:27] <bizkwet> !ot > bizkwet
[02:27] <James22> it appears /dev/dsp is busy
[02:27] <bizkwet> lol
[02:27] <James22> anyone know any way to reset /dev/dsp
[02:27] <James22> ?
[02:27] <_empty> I see there is a problem with openchomr/ubuntu for hp2133, possible to say when it will be fixed?
[02:28] <ribas1> greetings cybernauts and other lost souls :0
[02:28] <uber_noober> hallo
[02:29] <weternal> carandraug thanks. I'm at the screen now, it says "/dev/sda"  "free space size 0 MB" "/dev/sda1 fat32 209 MB size 209 MB used" "/dev/sda2" hfs+ 79682 size 33113 used" "free space 134 MB size"
[02:29] <An_dynas> just installed a derivative of 8.04 with no "keyboard shortcuts" in the accessories.  I'm afraid that I have gotten used to some customization.  Doesn't appear in the repositories.  Any ideas how to install the shortcuts?
[02:31] <carandraug> weternal: you said you had left free space to install Ubuntu. It doesn't appear. Are you sure you prepared it? There's only 134Mb free to make a partition
[02:31] <Cody_Duncan> Can someone help me?  The mouse is not working on my machine.  The mouse is not broken, as I was just using it (in Windows).  I just installed Xubuntu 8.04 on a Dimension 2400 with 128 meg RAM.  I installed from the Alt. disk.  Any ideas how I can troubleshoot this?
[02:31] <ribas1> An_dynas; maybe read a bit ? http://www.google.com/cse?cx=014345598409501589908%3Amplknj4r1bu&ie=UTF-8&q=ubuntu+shortcuts%27&sa=Search
[02:31] <KillerOrca> anyone know how to successfully move an existing install from one hard drive to another?
[02:32] <Panarchy> n8tuser: Using x86 version of ubuntu-desktop.iso, just did a clean install, I have a i686 architecture, if you could please tell me the exact command for both partitioning and using debootstrap, I'd really appreciate it, thanks
[02:32] <ribas1> Cody_Duncan: which mouse?
[02:33] <polywaffle> hello
[02:33] <polywaffle> can anyone tell me how to make the console colours the same as ubuntu in the tty (not X)
[02:33] <polywaffle> sorry
[02:33] <polywaffle> the same as gentoo
[02:33] <dgarr> Cody_Duncan: useful to try: grep -i mouse /var/log/Xorg.*.log
[02:33] <Cody_Duncan> I am using a laptop right now in the chat, but I just installed on a Dell Dimension 2400, and the stock mouse is not working
[02:33] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> in generality,  fdisk /dev/sddX  and follow the menu
[02:33] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> i have already given you to command for using debootstrap
[02:34] <Cody_Duncan> dgarr: how can I run try that, without the mouse (stupid question, I suppose)
[02:34] <carandraug> polywaffle: you want to have the same colors in the console in ubuntu, that you have in gentoo's tty?
[02:34] <dgarr> Cody_Duncan: maybe you can alt-tab to get a shell open?
[02:35] <Cody_Duncan> no dice
[02:35] <An_dynas> Thank you for the response, ribas1, but those links are to shortcuts available.  I'm trying to dedicate and customize keys and keystrokes, which is available in the program "keyboard shortcuts" typically found under accessories.  It's unfortunately not there.  I'm looking to figure out how to re-install that program.
[02:35] <Cody_Duncan> firefox opened
[02:35] <job> obuttu, the wiki page leads to installing AWN for ubuntu 8.0x can use that for 8.10?
[02:35] <bastid_raZor> dgarr; alt+f2 then gnome-terminal
[02:35] <ribas1> Cody_Duncan: start by doing what dgarr says,,find out what brand the mouse is and then look at you xorg.conf
[02:35] <carandraug> polywaffle: I don't know what are the colors in gentoo, but if you open gnome-terminal, go to Edit > Profile preferences and you change the colors there
[02:35] <dgarr> Cody_Duncan: what bastid_raZor said
[02:35] <bastid_raZor> dgarr; oh, wrong nick
[02:35] <KillerOrca> anyone know how to successfully move an existing install from one hard drive to another?
[02:36] <carandraug> KillerOrca: yes. Use rsync
[02:36] <KillerOrca> carandraug, can you elaborate?
[02:36] <carandraug> KillerOrca: yes. One minute. I'm looking for the commands I used before
[02:37] <KillerOrca> dgarr, trying to get files too, thanks though
[02:38] <R1_> !kernel
[02:38] <carandraug> KillerOrca: do you have the other HDD mounted?
[02:38] <R1_> R1_, asdf
[02:39] <KillerOrca> carandraug, if by other you mean original no, it is in the machine but not hooked up
[02:39] <weternal> carandraug sorry about that, I lost connection for a bit
[02:39] <carandraug> weternal: you said you had left free space to install Ubuntu. It doesn't appear. Are you sure you prepared it? There's only 134Mb free to make a partition
[02:39] <n00bf4rt> hi all, i'm new to linux so i decided to give ubuntu a try, but i have some problems with my w-lan network card, can anyone help me ?
[02:40] <carandraug> KillerOrca: you're in the install that you want to copu to another HDD?
[02:40] <weternal> carandraug there should be room in /dev/sda2 "hfs+" since it's an 80 Gb drive, and there are only 33 Gigs used
[02:40] <polywaffle> carandraug> I dont mean in X, I mean from a tty
[02:40] <L_Y> hm....what should i do if i want to let the thunderbird check email by itself?
[02:40] <ribas1> an-dynas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts
[02:41] <Onyx> Here's a story of an honest man losing religion, climbing the pulpit steps before an eager congregation, then while praying came a wicked inspiration... Brothers, sisters this is what he said:  "Dearly beloved, dearly beloved, dearly beloved, I can't relate to you."
[02:41] <carandraug> weternal: yeah, but you'll have to resize it. It's different to leave free space in a partition, and to leave free space in a disk to create a partition
[02:41] <KillerOrca> carandraug, the new drive is the one that is currently hooked up.  If I have to put the original in, does it matter which one is master and which one is slave?
[02:41] <L_Y> i want the thunderbird run in background
[02:41] <weternal> carandraug how would I go about resizing it?
[02:42] <ribas1> an-dynas and http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-create-a-custom-keyboard-shortcut-in-ubuntu.html
[02:42] <n00bf4rt> i checked fro drivers for my sitecom wl-112 wlan card ( for laptops ) it said its in the driver my ubuntu is using right now, but my connection info only shows 1mb/s but it should be 54 ( im not too far away from the router or anything ) can anyone help me with this ?
[02:42] <carandraug> weternal: are you trying to install 8.10?
[02:42] <Cody_Duncan> dgarr: when I do the /var/log etc.  I get an error "grep: invalid max count"
[02:42] <weternal> yes
[02:43] <weternal> carandraug yes I am installing 8.10
[02:43] <azfira> www.gogle.com
[02:43] <tobz> I'm having an issue with the 8.10 LiveCD installation. I was getting the "initramfs+busybox" issue and solved it with a modified boot line (added all_generic_ide) but now when the installation loads squashfs, it gets stuck. Any thoughts? Google doesn't return much
[02:43] <dgarr> Cody_Duncan: remind what you did?
[02:43] <carandraug> weternal: ok. 1 min. I'm faking a install to guide you
[02:43] <Cody_Duncan> dgarr: forget what I just said, I got the command to work, but what do I do from here?  I am trying to get my mouse to work.
[02:44] <allquixotic> Decepticon: I've got somewhere
[02:44] <allquixotic> it's a hack but it might do something
[02:44] <carandraug> KillerOrca: no, I don't think it does. I used this to backup my home without losing anything. It should work for a install
[02:44] <Decepticon> allquixotic ive been throwing darts with a blindfold on here...
[02:44] <KillerOrca> carandraug, ok, give me a minute to hook it all up then
[02:45] <n00bf4rt> erm, could anyone pls help me ^^ with the network problem ?
[02:45] <dgarr> Cody_Duncan: grep -i mouse /var/log/Xorg.*.log may give hints on device and config and erros for mouse
[02:45] <allquixotic>  Decepticon: I'm hacking up a script using dump-gnash (had to build gnash from source because that isn't shipped with ubuntu) and mplayer and mencoder. whew!
[02:46] <Cody_Duncan> I'm not getting anything anything that looks like an error.
[02:46] <Lillymon> I've got working sound now, but I also have a second problem that maybe you can help fix. KNetworkManager can't see my router through the ethernet connection, but can see it via my USB wi-fi connection (that's what I'm connected with). I know it's not a hardware problem though, because a Kubuntu 8.10 desktop CD can see the router through the ethernet connection.
[02:46] <azfira> www.wikipedia.com
[02:47] <azfira> www.gogle.com
[02:47] <dgarr> Cody_Duncan: do you items indicating success and "Convigured"
[02:47] <n00bf4rt> WTB some help =D
[02:47] <R1_> Hi, can someone tell  me if there is a terminal code to check the driver version of your  wireless adapter?
[02:47] <Decepticon> allquixotic well its better than what im doing
[02:47] <ribas1> using 220 mem with firefox opened and 3-20% cpu with xbuntu.desktop installed after removing gnome
[02:47] <n00bf4rt> R1_ i have wlan issues too, not getting much support here tho ^
[02:48] <ribas1> anyone else using xfce forr comps?
[02:48] <R1_> n00bf4rt, does it involve injection?
[02:48] <ribas1> noobf4rt: what is the issue?
[02:48] <ribas1> ehehehe
[02:48] <n00bf4rt> ok im a noob with linux :) to start with
[02:48] <ribas1> hospital...
[02:48] <ribas1> medicine
[02:48] <n00bf4rt> i have a sitecom wl-112
[02:48] <Cody_Duncan> dgarr: the last line says "Configured Mouse: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded"
[02:48] <ribas1> ...
[02:48] <n00bf4rt> but its only 1mb/s @ connection info
[02:49] <n00bf4rt> it should be 54
[02:49] <R1_> how close are y ou  to the ap n00bf4rt
[02:49] <n00bf4rt> like 1 meter
[02:49] <n00bf4rt> so it should be ok, when i was using windows with normal drivers its 54
[02:49] <weternal> carandraug how do I resize this partition?
[02:49] <hazard_> So I used chsh to switch my shell to zsh, but gnome-terminal still seems to start bash. What gives?
[02:49] <R1_> n00bf4rt, i just installed ubuntu 2 days ago, no help will be coming  from  me lol
[02:49] <n00bf4rt> tried too look for some drivers, i found a default package in ubuntu supporting my card
[02:49] <ribas1> n00bf4rt: i don't have one to troubleshoot but it was working with 7.10
[02:50] <dgarr> Cody_Duncan: try lsmod|grep mouse to see driver
[02:50] <Cody_Duncan> dgarr: I am looking at this in the forums, though I don't know that it applies : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=448046
[02:50] <R1_> Hi, can someone tell  me if there is a terminal code to check the driver version of your  wireless adapter?
[02:50] <carandraug> weternal: that's what I'm trying to figure. It's better to try it in the LiveCD, instead of the installation menus. Is that ok?
[02:51] <weternal> yeah
[02:51] <weternal> carandraug yeah
[02:51] <n00bf4rt> to add some more info to my problem, it says here my network card has a 75% connection, so that makes it even more strange that i'm only having 1mb/s
[02:51] <weternal> carandraug so do I want to exit from the install?
[02:52] <carandraug> weternal: if you try during the menu install (which I was trying now), the text is not clear and I don't want to mess your system
[02:52] <dgarr> Cody_Duncan: maybe if you pastebin your Xorg.0.log someone will see something to help
[02:52] <R1_> n00bf4art, it says  you're  getting 1mb/s but is that what is actually going on? have you tried to test if it will  surpass 1mb/s
[02:52] <carandraug> weternal: yes. Go to LiveCD and start gparted
[02:52] <n00bf4rt> let me try downloading something from a good host..
[02:53] <carandraug> KillerOrca: "rsync -acvSHx --exclude lost+found --exclude /where_you _want_to_copy_it / /where_you _want_to_copy_it" I belive this command should do the trick for you
[02:53] <Cody_Duncan> dgarr: how do I see the log?
[02:53] <weternal> carandraug ok I'm in the live cd session now
[02:53] <KillerOrca> carandraug, I set everything up, but I tried cloning the drive before with clonezilla, do i need to boot up gparted and erase the failed clone?
[02:53] <Cody_Duncan> dgarr: also, pasting won't work, as I am working on a seperate machine
[02:53] <ribas1> n00bf4rt: http://www.speedtest.net/
[02:53] <n00bf4rt> maximum dl speed is ~30kb/s but its 1800kb/s using ethernet
[02:54] <dgarr> Cody_Duncan: try: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:54] <weternal> i've got gparted open
[02:54] <carandraug> KillerOrca: can't hurt to make sure there's nothing left behind
[02:54] <Cody_Duncan> dgarr: no such file or directory
[02:54] <Zaphyous> could someone assist me in making my ubuntu laptop display on an external monitor (dvi monitor)?
[02:54] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: i now have the following .deb package.... linux-image-2.6.28-maroon-bells-amd64_20081226_amd64.deb  :-)
[02:54] <tonyyarusso> Is there a way to get dpkg to reinstall ALL packages?
[02:54] <Cody_Duncan> dgarr: my mistake, it's there
[02:55] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: :D
[02:55] <weternal> carandraug I've got gparted open, it's showing three partitions sda1, sda2 and unallocated
[02:55] <carandraug> weternal: ok. So umount the partition where you have OSx installed
[02:55] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: i'll install it and reboot in several minutes here
[02:55] <R1_> n00bf4rt, you on 8.10 ubuntu?
[02:56] <ribas1> jeeee...i rock ! :)
[02:56] <n00bf4rt> ehm where can i see my version
[02:56] <ribas1> http://www.speedtest.net/result/379518282.png
[02:56] <n00bf4rt> i downloaded the latest version about 2 weeks ago
[02:56] <kpr> Lol, his name is n00bf4rt
[02:56] <n00bf4rt> hehe xD ya my usual nick was taken xD
[02:56] <soreau> tonyyarusso: That would be 'by reinstalling ubuntu'
[02:56] <earHurts> I installed kubuntu-desktop over Ubuntu Intrepid. This gives me KDE 4.1, which reallt disappoints. I want KDE 3.5. How can I revet to KDE 3.5?
[02:56] <Decepticon> allquixotic im almost giving up
[02:57] <Lillymon> earHurts: As far as I can see, you don't.
[02:57] <allquixotic> Decepticon: I have it in an AVI
[02:57] <n00bf4rt> to add some more info had the same problem using fedora
[02:57] <woli> how can i know the electricity consumption of my computer?
[02:57] <allquixotic> Decepticon: I have gone from your SWF to an AVI using gnash, mplayer and mencoder
[02:57] <Decepticon> allquixotic ive tried printing the swf, screenshotting the swfs, converting the swf to png....
[02:57] <R1_> n00bf4rt, you can go to the panel system-> about ubuntu to check version
[02:57] <woli> with an applet, if possible.
[02:57] <earHurts> It's not  possible?
[02:57] <n00bf4rt> ok let me check
[02:57] <allquixotic> Decepticon: It's not that hard to go from a backend of AVI to a backend of PNG
[02:57] <weternal> carandraug I've got it unmounted
[02:57] <n00bf4rt> im on 8.10
[02:57] <Decepticon> allquixotic i suppopse... the hard part is swf to avi
[02:57] <ribas1> n00bf4rt: have you tried ndiswrapper?
[02:57] <R1_> n00bf4rt, so your card works fine in  windows but weird on linux?
[02:57] <Lillymon> I'm waiting for Kubuntu 9.04, with KDE 4.2 in the base install. THAT is the full replacement for KDE 3.5 I've been wanting.
[02:57] <allquixotic> it's not hard, I can do it here
[02:58] <carandraug> weternal: now, right click on it and select "resize/move"
[02:58] <n00bf4rt> jup
[02:58] <Cody_Duncan> dgarr: the log says at one point "Configured Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one..." "Configured Mouse: Settin gDevice option to "/dev/input/mice"
[02:58] <GodfatherofEire> Is there any way to convert a number in the terminal to its equivalent in base 64?
[02:58] <n00bf4rt> its easy to find windows drivers, but in linux its 1 big package ( as far as i could see ) and my card was on the list
[02:58] <n00bf4rt> default driver
[02:58] <Decepticon> allquixotic this method, is it scriptable so i may do it to 1400 swf files
[02:59] <Cody_Duncan> I think I may be taking this machine home with me, to spend some real time with it, as it may be just shy of FUBAR
[02:59] <n00bf4rt> another werid thing, my card has 2 LEDs only 1 is burning, in windows both where burning
[02:59] <weternal> carandraug ok I resized it. should I click apply?
[02:59] <n00bf4rt> the activity LED aint burning anymore
[02:59] <R1_> n00bf4art, i'm new to Ubuntu so i can't offer any more suggestions except to google "'yourcard name' problems ubuntu"
[02:59] <allquixotic> Decepticon: The thing I'm writing *is* a script.
[03:00] <allquixotic> Decepticon: So yes
[03:00] <carandraug> weternal: then, you change the values so " Free space preceding=0", "New Size=what you want to leave for MacOSX" and "Free Space Following=what you want to leave for Ubuntu"
[03:00] <Decepticon> allquixotic interesting
[03:00] <dgarr> Cody_Duncan: try: sudo cat /dev/input/mice|xxd    and move mouse to see if there is output
[03:00] <n00bf4rt> well R1_ i tried that allready will look further if i cant fix it with the help here
[03:00] <carandraug> weternal: yes
[03:00] <n00bf4rt> im afraid its not that easy tho since im new to linux ^
[03:00] <WebcamWonder> n00bf4rt: Which card do you have?
[03:00] <allquixotic> Decepticon: I can send you a tarball with dump-gnash and the script once I get it debugged
[03:01] <n00bf4rt> sitecome wl-112
[03:01] <n00bf4rt> sitecom*
[03:01] <weternal> n00bf4rt are you using intel 2200bg
[03:01] <Decepticon> allquixotic that would be awesome
[03:01] <weternal> n00bf4rt I mean is that your wireless card name?
[03:01] <n00bf4rt> ehm i have no idea ^^ i have this laptop for 2 days now its the old laptop of my mum xD dont have any specs
[03:01] <GodfatherofEire> Is there any way to convert a number in the terminal to its equivalent in base 64 (Not the programming language but a number that has 64 as its base instead of 2, 10, 16, etc)?
[03:01] <n00bf4rt> ow no
[03:02] <n00bf4rt> its sitecom wl-112
[03:02] <carandraug> KillerOrca: you got your partition set up? Now I remember, you'll have to at least edit fstab after this
[03:02] <Cody_Duncan> dgarr: I am moving the mouse but nothing is happening
[03:02] <sloopy> base 64? what do you use after z?
[03:02] <seventoes> i'm getting "The Composite extension is not available" when i try to enable visual effects. I have ati drivers for my card installed from ATI's website, and Composite enabled in my xorg.conf
[03:03] <SJr|Nbook> How do I switch my Login Manager, from KDM to GDM?
[03:03] <allquixotic> Decepticon: I'm 98% there; just figuring out mencoder options to go from a recognized media format into PNG
[03:03] <GodfatherofEire> sloopy, I know there is something, but I'm not sure what the last 2 characters are
[03:03] <R1_> weternal, i'm using 2200bg, is there something i should  know  o.O  ?
[03:03] <Cody_Duncan> dgarr: thanks for trying, but I think I may be out of options here for the time being
[03:03] <dgarr> Cody_Duncan: hm, with a working mouse you would get output there so I don't know, maybe restart X (ctrl-alt-backspace) and retry that
[03:03] <GodfatherofEire> For that matter, I'm not even sure if there is a standard, so I might just be making an idiot of myself
[03:04] <Panarchy> Sorry, had a shower, can someone please tell me the command again so i can use it?
[03:04] <KillerOrca> carandraug I deleted everyhting on the target hard disk, it all just says unallocated now in gparted, do I need to do anyhting else?
[03:04] <Panarchy> n8tuser: Using x86 version of ubuntu-desktop.iso, just did a clean install, I have a i686 architecture, if you could please tell me the exact command for both partitioning and using debootstrap, I'd really appreciate it, thanks
[03:04] <sloopy> GodfatherofEire, would be 8 chars (guessing using 0-9 and a-z and A-Z) left over needing to be filled
[03:04] <weternal> R1_ oh I had issues with it when I switched to 8.10-i.e. it didn't work out of the box, but I was able to solve the problem by typing sudo modprobe -i ipw2200
[03:04] <GodfatherofEire> sloopy, nope only 2
[03:04] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> in generality,  fdisk /dev/sddX  and follow the menu
[03:05] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> i have already given you to command for using debootstrap
[03:05] <R1_> weternal, have you patched your driver for injection?
[03:05] <seventoes> anyone know why I might be getting "The composite extension is not available" with ATI drivers from the ATI website?
[03:05] <weternal> R1_ what does that mean
[03:05] <carandraug> KillerOrca: yes. Create an ext3 partition
[03:05] <sloopy> GodfatherofEire, ahh my decminal math is off
[03:05] <R1_> weternal, nevermind =)
[03:05] <GodfatherofEire> sloopy, haha, yeah, I did the same thing when I first went to calculate it too
[03:05] <uber_noober> n00bf4rt: your card should work out of the box
[03:05] <weternal> carandraug how long should this take to resize the disk
[03:05] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: i had an error with installing the .deb :-(
[03:05] <n00bf4rt> more info: connection info shows driver: rt2500pci
[03:06] <R1_> weternal, it's just for wireless auditing. You need to have patched ipw2200 if you want to take advantage of injection with aircrack
[03:06] <sloopy> GodfatherofEire, yeah its all those numbery thingys too many, they need to have alot less...
[03:06] <weternal> n00bf4rt sudo modprobe -r rt2500pci
[03:06] <DOT_DASH> Hi, I want to use command-line to copy files to Windows smb share, but smbmount (in smbfs) won't install.  I can "see" the mount in Dolphin/Konqueror.
[03:06] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: so close, yet so far xD
[03:06] <n00bf4rt> will do
[03:06] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: i'm investigating now
[03:07] <weternal> n00bf4rt that will stop that driver, and maybe let another one which actually works with your card take over
[03:07] <DOT_DASH> (Konqueror won't copy the files because it aborts(dies) if there's more than about 1 Gb of files)
[03:08] <Dalton_T1> i need some help, and i am kind of new to this... i have around 200 gigabites on my windows XP, and around 3 gigabites on here. how do i transfer that memory over to ubuntu?
[03:08] <stan> Dalton_T1, With a tool such as partition magic.  Do a ful backup before you start mucking with partition sizes.
[03:09] <stan> many a geeks last words were ... this wont hurt my data.
[03:09] <Panarchy> n8tuser: Yes, okay, thanks. Can you tell me the command for debootstrap again, as I had a shower, and mibbit made your text dissappear!
[03:09] <n00bf4rt> hmm
[03:09] <uber_noober> n00bf4rt: if what weternal suggested fails u can try ndiswrapper to make it work. Your card uses the same chipset as my belkin
[03:09] <weternal> n00bf4rt what'd that do
[03:09] <Dalton_T1> and stan, would i install that on ubuntu or xp?
[03:09] <n00bf4rt> erm
[03:09] <n00bf4rt> it kinda deleted my wlan xD
[03:09] <n00bf4rt> or something
[03:09] <stan> Dalton_T1, I think it comes with a bootable CD?
[03:09] <n00bf4rt> pulled out my card and plugged it in again
[03:09] <DOT_DASH> smbfs won't install because of smbfs: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.28a-1ubuntu4) but 3.0.28a-1ubuntu4.7 is to be installed
[03:09] <DOT_DASH>  any help, please?
[03:10] <n00bf4rt> then it worked
[03:10] <n00bf4rt> but still 1mb/s
[03:10] <carandraug> weternal: I never did had to resize one. I know how and guided people on doing it but never actually had to do it so I don't know how long it takes.
[03:10] <weternal> are you getting wireless
[03:10] <seventoes> DOT_DASH: install samba-common?
[03:10] <stan> Dalton_T1, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832108166&Tpk=partition%20magic
[03:10] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> i've pasted it to you several times, i can not remember anymore
[03:10] <ville_> Hell guys! I have a problem with my WLAN in ubuntu I keep getting disconnected pretty often
[03:10] <DOT_DASH> seventoes, yes, that's there
[03:10] <Panarchy> n8tuser: Press the up arrow please
[03:10] <KillerOrca> carandraug, ok, how do I make the target hard drive all one big ext3 partition? Right now it has 3 separate ones on it
[03:10] <Dalton_T1> is there a way i can do something like that for free?
[03:10] <weternal> carandraug oh ok, it's just taking a while and I wasn't sure whether it should or not
[03:10] <Panarchy> KillerOrca: gparted
[03:11] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> nothing
[03:11] <KillerOrca> Panarchy, I am in gparted
[03:11] <weternal> n00bf4rt well you can undo that command with sudo modprobe -i
[03:11] <weternal> "your driver name"
[03:11] <n00bf4rt> ow ok xD
[03:11] <Panarchy> n8tuser: :( Well if you do remember please tell me (via PM) Thanks in advance
[03:11] <Panarchy> Going to eat breakfast now
[03:11] <ville_> Hell guys! I have a problem with my WLAN in ubuntu I keep getting disconnected pretty often
[03:11] <n00bf4rt> ehm could it have anything to do with MTU ?
[03:12] <carandraug> KillerOrca: you delete all the partitions until you're left with only free space, and then you create it. But are the 3 partitions, for swap, /home and / ?
[03:12] <n00bf4rt> its on automatic, i have no idea what it is, never saw it in windows
[03:12] <KillerOrca> carandraug, they were just 3 partitions that were there
[03:12] <stan> ville_, is that a poorly formed question; or an observation?
[03:12] <weternal> n00bff4rt um, let me get this straight-you're getting wireless but it's slow?
[03:13] <n00bf4rt> yes
[03:13] <n00bf4rt> its only 1mbit but it should be 54
[03:13] <carandraug> KillerOrca: ok. Just umount them, and then choose delete. Create a big ext3 then (leave space for swap and /home if you want)
[03:13] <n00bf4rt> and the same laptop, same card in windows, no problems
[03:13] <Dalton_T1> i think i am going to torrent that partition magic, thanks for the help!
[03:13] <donavan_> can anyone in here help me? I have been trying to get my TV card to work but it just doesn't seem to want to scan for the channels I have tried it in myth, kaffeine, tvtime, and dvbscan and nothing I try seems to work the card is a wintv-hvr-1800 as far as I can tell the drivers are installed and updated I am running on ubuntu 8.10 but no matter what program I use it doesnt seem to complete the scan. ... I have checked and the card
[03:13] <donavan_>  is supposed to be supported by  just about everything but I am missing something
[03:14] <stan> Dalton_T1, defrag in windows first (it will make it MUCH faster)
[03:14] <weternal> n00bf4rt well then it's not an issue with mtu
[03:14] <stan> Dalton_T1, and make a backup of anything critical
[03:14] <n00bf4rt> ok
[03:14] <Dalton_T1> alright, thanks stan, i will do that
[03:14] <KillerOrca> carandraug, I deleted them but left no space for swap or home, should I do that?
[03:14] <n00bf4rt> might it be capped by some sort of setting? setting it to 1mb/s or something ?
[03:14] <WebcamWonder> n00bf4rt: You can force your wireless card to work at 54
[03:15] <n00bf4rt> WebcamWonder, could you tell me how to do this ?
[03:15] <carandraug> KillerOrca: you want to copy to backup, or just to later boot from that HDD?
[03:15] <WebcamWonder> n00bf4rt: sudo iwconfig <wlan0> rate 54M
[03:15] <WebcamWonder> n00bf4rt: Where <wlan0> would be the name of your wireless interface
[03:15] <n00bf4rt> iĺl give it a try
[03:16] <KillerOrca> carandraug, to boot from that HDD, but the original install has no separate partition for home only for swap
[03:16] <n00bf4rt> ok
[03:16] <DOT_DASH> seventoes: the message from Adept Manager is a bit different: in red text BREAK(install)
[03:16] <matti_> #kateos-pl
[03:16] <carandraug> KillerOrca: then leave space only for swap
[03:16] <n00bf4rt> WebcamWonder: getting, Error for wireless request "Set Bit Rate" (8B20) :
[03:16] <n00bf4rt>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
[03:17] <KillerOrca> carandraug, does it have to be ext3 and how large should it be?
[03:17] <wise> hello!  I need ti install HFS+ support to create a partition with gparted..
[03:17] <tarelerulz1> have any of you ever gotten adobe flash player for firefox working right so it don't run up your cpu?
[03:17] <WebcamWonder> n00bf4rt: Is wlan0 the name of your wireless interface?
[03:17] <n00bf4rt> yes
[03:17] <sloopy> i hate when my machine locks up
[03:17] <weternal> try eth1
[03:17] <carandraug> KillerOrca: for swap, use the same space you have in your current install. It's not ext3, the typse is linux-swap
[03:18] <n00bf4rt> weternal, was that for me ?
[03:18] <KillerOrca> k, will do
[03:18] <WebcamWonder> n00bf4rt: pastebin iwconfig
[03:18] <weternal> yes
[03:18] <wise> can anybody help me install HFS+ partition creating support?
[03:18] <n00bf4rt> 1 sec, let me try webcamwonders thing first
[03:18] <weternal> oh do what webcamwonder said first
[03:18] <weternal> yeah
[03:18] <n00bf4rt> command not found? ^
[03:18] <n00bf4rt> ^^
[03:19] <WebcamWonder> !pastebin | n00bf4rt
[03:19] <WebcamWonder> n00bf4rt: run the command iwconfig, and then paste the output to a pastebin :)
[03:19] <n00bf4rt> ow :P
[03:20] <ilmob> hello
[03:20] <Zygot> Hi ilmob
[03:20] <n00bf4rt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/93549/
[03:20] <KillerOrca> carandraug, ok, that is done, now what
[03:20] <ilmob> basic quiestion I'm sure but anyone know how to add to start up? I tried finding System/Preferences/Session but I don't seem to have those options
[03:20] <weternal> how do you left click a macbook mouse in ubuntu
[03:21] <ilmob> hey Zygot
[03:21] <Zygot> Yep
[03:21] <weternal> i mean right click
[03:21] <n00bf4rt> weternal, the Eth thing you said aint that the network interface for cable?
[03:21] <WebcamWonder> n00bf4rt: Does the fragment threshold configuration match the one on router?
[03:21] <Decepticon> allquixotic, any luck with the avi
[03:21] <carandraug> KillerOrca: can you pastebin "ls /media", "df -h" and "sudo fdisk -l"?
[03:21] <weternal> eth0 should be the cable interface
[03:21] <n00bf4rt> yes
[03:21] <weternal> eth1 is the name for my wireless interface
[03:21] <WebcamWonder> n00bf4rt: And Rts?
[03:22] <n00bf4rt> ow eth1 is my nic ^^ for cable
[03:22] <brendon> hi all, i had a software raid 1 mirror setup and one of the drives died. I just need to get some data off the good drive. fdisk says the filesystem is "linux raid", how can i mount the drive so i can access the data on the drive?
[03:22] <allquixotic> Decepticon: We now have a new sub-problem that I'm trying to resolve. Take a genericized avi file and extract the first frame of it as a PNG
[03:22] <n00bf4rt> hmmm never heard of rts ^^
[03:22] <KillerOrca> carandraug, I am in a gparted livecd, so is there anything specific you are looking for?
[03:22] <allquixotic> This is a more tractable sub-problem though
[03:22] <n00bf4rt> let me check my router if i can find anything
[03:22] <weternal> does anyone know how the right click/left click thing works with a macbook mouse?
[03:22] <n00bf4rt> weternal: ctrl+ click ?
[03:22] <n00bf4rt> not sure..
[03:23] <wise> anybody?  has anyone been able to create a HFS+ partition in ubuntu?
[03:23] <carandraug> KillerOrca: yes. The path to the partitions, where they are mounted, and what's in /media that should be excluded
[03:23] <WebcamWonder> allquixotic: ffmpeg can apparently do it, http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FFMPEG_Usage
[03:23] <Decepticon> allquixotic what exactly does this png look like? its a millisecond long video with the swf file captured in it? or is it a compilation of many swf files or? how is the quality
[03:24] <ChoboMog> Hey.  I know this isn't the official Moblock channel, but is there anyone else who give me a bit of help with it?  When its enabled, Moblock is blocking all traffic, including HTTP (affecting pidgin/emesene/firefox), FTP, etc, even though it has been slecected as an exception to the blocks using Mobloquer...This should have whitelisted the HTTP connections after it was reloaded...
[03:25] <n00bf4rt> WebcamWonder: cant find anything with RTS ^^
[03:25] <weternal> carandraug so I've got 30 gigs of free space now, how do I add a partition?
[03:25] <n00bf4rt> might it be called different ?
[03:25] <WebcamWonder> n00bf4rt: RTS Throttle
[03:26] <allquixotic> Decepticon: the PNG is going to be the first frame of the SWF file
[03:26] <carandraug> weternal: that you do in the install menu, in manual mode. Start the install
[03:26] <KillerOrca> carandraug, actually I ran into a problem doing the resize so I have to do it agian
[03:27] <n00bf4rt> WebcamWonder: I really cant find it anywhere
[03:27] <WebcamWonder> n00bf4rt: Ok, then try: sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M again
[03:27] <Kar1na> ya regreso
[03:27] <n00bf4rt> ok will do
[03:27]  * Kar1na se va a dormir
[03:27] <n00bf4rt> same error again
[03:28] <weternal> carandraug I'm at the manual partition screen
[03:28] <weternal> i've got 32245MB free space after the hfs+ drive
[03:29] <smokeymirror> hey guys can you help me with my wireless
[03:29] <smokeymirror> its not working
[03:29] <R1_> How do i check ther  kernel version of my ubuntu?
[03:29] <manzur> hello my frinds
[03:29] <manzur> how are
[03:29] <manzur> you
[03:29] <manzur> happy new year
[03:29] <FloodBot1> manzur: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:29] <manzur> and merry chrsitmas
[03:29] <soreau> smokeymirror: Which chipset is it and what is not working about it?
[03:29] <manzur> i have a question for you
[03:29] <carandraug> weternal: ok. Do you want to have separate /home? How much do you ant to leave for swap (if any)?
[03:29] <manzur> do not you think ubuntu menus: application-places-system, are too big?
[03:29] <R1_> How do i check ther  kernel version of my ubuntu?
[03:29] <smokeymirror> under iwconfig
[03:30] <Zygot> WebcamWonder: try 11M (B instead of G)
[03:30] <smokeymirror> it shows up as wlan0 IEEE 802.11abgn
[03:30] <manzur> how can i do to set them smaller
[03:30] <tobz> R1_: uname -sr in a terminal
[03:30] <manzur> ?
[03:30] <smokeymirror> but it doesn't work
[03:30] <R1_> tobz, ty
[03:30] <weternal> R1_ it should tell you when you start
[03:30] <Tim183> can I have some assistance installing sopcast please....?
[03:30] <R1_> weternal, i'm too lazy to restart
[03:30] <manzur> i mean the letter size
[03:30] <R1_> weternal, thanx anyway
[03:30] <Friek> WebcamWonder: anymore suggestions ?
[03:30] <manzur> font size
[03:30] <donavan_> can anyone in here help me? I have been trying to get my TV card to work but it just doesn't seem to want to scan for the channels I have tried it in myth, kaffeine, tvtime, and dvbscan and nothing I try seems to work the card is a wintv-hvr-1800 as far as I can tell the drivers are installed and updated I am running on ubuntu 8.10 but no matter what program I use it doesnt seem to complete the scan. ... I have checked and the card
[03:30] <donavan_>  is supposed to be supported by  just about everything but I am missing something
[03:30] <smokeymirror> i tried so many ubuntu tutorials
[03:30] <WebcamWonder> Zygot: Nope. Apparently your card's driver doesn't support SET, so it cannot be changed on the fly I presume
[03:31] <WebcamWonder> Zygot: Sorry
[03:31] <WebcamWonder> n00bf4rt: ^^
[03:31] <n00bf4rt> hehe srry auto nick change, i reconnected ^^
[03:31] <weternal> well it's 2.26
[03:31] <weternal> if you're using 8.10
[03:31] <dsnaike> tarelerulzl I always copy all the plugins at usr/mozilla/plugins to usr/firefox-3.0.5/plugins  and no problems
[03:31] <teep2> I'm trying to get 32-bit Intrepid to play a commercial DVD.  (The DVD is good and it plays in my 64Bit Hardy Totem player.)  I followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10.musicvideophotos/C/video.html#video-dvd but when I put the DVD in and click on it, Totem comes up and crashes.  Suggestions?
[03:32] <uber_noober> smokeymirror: what kind of card is it? who makes it?
[03:32] <smokeymirror> i am on 8.10
[03:32] <Zygot> WOW? O
[03:32] <Zygot> Hmmmmm...
[03:32] <R1_> weternal, how come mine says 2.6.27
[03:32] <WebcamWonder> manzur: System -> Appearence -> Fonts, you can change it there
[03:33] <weternal> carandraug how do I set up the partitions in this free space?
[03:34] <smokeymirror> its intel 5100
[03:34] <WebcamWonder> !pm | manzur
[03:34] <smokeymirror> how do i find what card it is
[03:34] <KillerOrca> carandraug, I am in the gparted livecd, how do I create a swap partition?
[03:34] <uber_noober> smokeymirror: lspci -m
[03:34] <n00bf4rt> WebcamWonder: What does ad-hoc mean @ mode ? in my wireless settings ?
[03:34] <carandraug> weternal: you select free space, then click in edit partition. A menu pops up. You select the type of partition, and the space you want for it.
[03:34] <allquixotic> Decepticon: SUCCESS.
[03:34] <n00bf4rt> its on infrastructure now
[03:35] <Decepticon> allquixotic wow!
[03:35] <soreau> smokeymirror: It would be easier for you to get support if you type the nickname of the one that is trying to help you in front of your message, and keep your response on a single line. This way it will highlight the message and notify them that you've responded
[03:35] <carandraug> weternal: where you want /, you choose ext3 and mount point /
[03:35] <Decepticon> allquixotic i cant believe it
[03:35] <WebcamWonder> n00bf4rt: Ad-hoc is for p2p. When 2 pcs are connected together. For routers, managed would be your best choice
[03:35] <weternal> carandraug what partition do I want to select from that menu? the first option is ext3? do I want to mount it at /?
[03:35] <n00bf4rt> ow ok
[03:35] <allquixotic> Decepticon: I can't tell gnash to scale *up* the flash video by 1.6, you'll have to use another resolution, at least for the 0000.swf, because the resolution needs to be a power of 2 for ffmpeg... but I wrote a script that takes swf and dumps png from the first frame
[03:35] <n00bf4rt> WebcamWonder: hehe srry iḿ not used to these words, windows didnt have all these terms :P
[03:36] <carandraug> KillerOrca: you right click on the unallocated space, choose the size for it, and choose linux-swap in the filesystem option
[03:36] <WebcamWonder> n00bf4rt: It has the tendency to sugar-coat many many things
[03:36] <Decepticon> allquixotic, sure i can use 2.0 or 4.0
[03:36] <carandraug> weternal: you want to choose the one that says "free space". Do not select the ones that already done
[03:36] <n00bf4rt> WebcamWonder: have to aggree with that :P
[03:36] <allquixotic> Decepticon: ffmpeg likes it when i make it a scale of twice as big
[03:37] <manzur> it changes ubuntu desktop font size but it do not change menu font zise
[03:37] <allquixotic> 1224x1568
[03:37] <manzur> WebcamWonder: it changes ubuntu desktop font size but it do not change menu font zise
[03:37] <allquixotic> Decepticon: I think --scale=2.0, --scale=4.0, --scale=8.0, etc will work fine
[03:37] <Decepticon> allquixotic is that the resolution of the resulting png file
[03:37] <allquixotic> Decepticon: yes
[03:38] <Decepticon> allquixotic how much of a quality difference are you seeing between the swf and the png? especially looking at the text
[03:38] <weternal> carandraug right I'm creating a new partition in the free space
[03:38] <weternal> but what format should it have
[03:38] <Decepticon> allquixotic lets see a png
[03:38] <Crak> hi
[03:38] <Crak> anyone knows a software for downloading from rapidshare or megaupload?
[03:39] <mib_b5ao9k> how do i install a wireless manager (and which one) on ubuntu?
[03:39] <carandraug> weternal: ext3 for / and swap for swap
[03:39] <carandraug> weternal: you should create at least 2
[03:39] <allquixotic> Deception: a moment
[03:40] <KillerOrca> carandraug, this livecd seems to not want to actually create any partitions and I cannot boot
[03:40] <weternal> carandraug: yeah I set up a ext3 and swap, thanks
[03:40] <mib_b5ao9k> can someone help me get a wireless manager on ubuntu
[03:40] <mib_b5ao9k> please
[03:41] <mib_b5ao9k> i'm begging you
[03:41] <manzur> wiuld not it better if in window selector applet we can close windows as in window list applet?
[03:41] <Biovore> what wireless nic you have?
[03:41] <Crak> mib_b5ao9k: wicd
[03:41] <carandraug> KillerOrca: did you umount them? Try with "sudo cfdisk"
[03:41] <mib_b5ao9k> Crak: i can't figure out what the package name for apt-get is
[03:42] <Crak> i think it isnt an official package
[03:42] <KillerOrca> carandraug, when I create the swap partitoin is it primary or extended?
[03:42] <mib_b5ao9k> so how do i get it?
[03:42] <techsupport> hi fag
[03:42] <Crak> what about network manager?
[03:42] <kestrel> mib_b5ao9k, network manager handles wireless connections
[03:42] <mib_b5ao9k> yes that one would be good too
[03:42] <techsupport> hi fagz
[03:42] <mib_b5ao9k> how do i get network manager?
[03:42] <Flannel> techsupport: Please stop
[03:42] <mib_b5ao9k> i tried apt-get install network-manager
[03:42] <Crak> it is an official ubuntu package
[03:42] <onetinsoldier> hi. i have just discovered that when i compile a new kernel(linux-2.6.28) with make-kpg(apt-get install kernel-package), and then try to install the .deb it creates, the postinst script doesn't like that i have a /etc/kernel/postinst.d directory(contains one little executable file --> dkms). i've never encountered this problem before when compiling/building a new kernel .deb file with make-kpg. any ideas anyone? have i hit on
[03:42] <onetinsoldier> a bug with the make-kpkg script?
[03:42] <teep2> Okay, I tried running Totem from the terminal.  (Wow, doc is lacking.  totem --play /media/Title)
[03:42] <Crak> apt-cache search network manager
[03:42] <n00bf4rt> bleh i'm really losing it xD
[03:43] <KillerOrca> carandraug, when I create the swap partitoin is it primary or extended?
[03:43] <Crak> anyone knows a software for downloading from rapidshare or megaupload?
[03:43] <techsupport> HI FAGFZ
[03:43] <ngabriel> is there something special i need to do to get a samba drive to mount on boot?  I think the syntax is correct since 'mount -a' works fine one i boot up all the way.
[03:43] <techsupport> Ur all gay
[03:43] <techsupport> running inferior distro
[03:43] <teep2> I got :  libdvdread:  Error cracking css key for /blah/blah/VOB... several of them.
[03:43] <allquixotic> Decepticon: http://tiyukquellmalz.org/0000.png
[03:43] <teep2> And then it... ran?
[03:43] <teep2> Weird.
[03:43] <kestrel> mib_b5ao9k, system .. adminitstration .. network manger    it is already installed.
[03:43] <carandraug> KillerOrca: it can be primary. Create extended if you end up with more than 4 partitions in the HDD
[03:44] <Decepticon> allquixotic what scale was this captred at
[03:44] <KillerOrca> carandraug, ok, got that all done now what were the commands you wanted me to run in a terminal?
[03:44] <allquixotic> Decepticon: 2.0
[03:44] <mib_b5ao9k> kestrel: i only have network and network-tools
[03:44] <Decepticon> allquixotic, maybe ill try 4.0
[03:44] <carandraug> weternal: is everything solved then?
[03:44] <weternal> carandraug yes thanks very much
[03:45] <kestrel> mib_b5ao9k, choose network
[03:45] <carandraug> weternal: ok, cool. No problem
[03:45] <manzur> would not it better if in window selector applet we can close windows as in window list applet???
[03:45] <mib_b5ao9k> how can i make it so thats its always in the tray at startup
[03:45] <teep2> Hrm.  Maybe my other machine just gets through that part so fast that the screen doesn't have time to go dark?  (must check.  Fascinating.)
[03:45] <kestrel> mib_b5ao9k, back to system....preferences...sessions
[03:46] <mib_b5ao9k> it appears to be already there
[03:46] <mib_b5ao9k> how do i use it to scan for networks and to connect to one?
[03:46] <mib_b5ao9k> i had madwifi before but it seems to have gone away
[03:46] <kestrel> mib_b5ao9k, is it checked?
[03:46] <eeboy> I find plenty of info about mounting windows shares and ext3 partitions on the same machine... but how do I mount an ext3 partition on my local network?
[03:46] <mib_b5ao9k> kestrel: its checked
[03:47] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier should i give up on trying to find a solution for my time outs?
[03:47] <efledderman> Can anyone help me get my wireless drivers to load upon startup?
[03:47] <mib_b5ao9k> kestrel: brb i have to reboot becuase i accidentally shut down madwifi
[03:48] <kestrel> mib_b5ao9k, right click on panel and add applet .. find network manager and double click.
[03:48] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: i don't know really. that's up to you. it seemed llike to me if n8tuser couldn't figure it out with all the troubleshooting he did, then i don't know what to tell you/think
[03:48] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier thanks
[03:49] <onetinsoldier> :P
[03:49] <KillerOrca> carandraug, I have the terminal open in the gparted live cd, now what?
[03:49] <D3RGPS31> i'm upgrading to jaunty :D
[03:49] <Mike002> Can anyone here who has the Glossy theme for Hardy upload it somewhere for me? Mine is somehow messed up and I really would appreciate it if someone could help me out.
[03:49] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: omg!
[03:49] <D3RGPS31> i'll have 2.6.28 before you!
[03:49] <ngabriel> is there something special i need to do to get a samba drive to mount on boot?  I think the syntax is correct since 'mount -a' works fine one i boot up all the way.
[03:49] <carandraug> KillerOrca: you enter "sudo cfdisk"
[03:50] <Decepticon> allquixotic howcan i see what this looks like
[03:50] <KillerOrca> carandraug, I did that now what?
[03:50] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: good luck with that! do they have 2.6.28 in there yet? that version of the kernel was just finalized the day before christmas, as a christmas gift ;-)
[03:50] <mib_qxo0nj> hi im back
[03:51] <n00bf4rt> WebcamWonder: i read something about installing windows drivers in linux.. is that possible ?
[03:51] <kestrel> mib_qsvzec, right click on panel and add applet .. find network manager and double click
[03:51] <shoeunited> Mike002,
[03:51] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier RC2 of it
[03:51] <mib_qxo0nj> kestrel: how do i use network-manager to connect to a WEP network
[03:51] <carandraug> KillerOrca: sorry. It's "sudo cfdisk /path_to_dev"
[03:51] <shoeunited> Mike002, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Hardy-glossy?content=76950
[03:51] <teep2> Okay.  Other machine does not get errors on opening the css stuff.  It is apparently using something called dvdnav which I don't remember installing but let me go google.
[03:51] <PyTh0n> hola!
[03:51] <allquixotic> Decepticon: give me a moment, I need to prepare some stuff to send to you
[03:51] <carandraug> KillerOrca: what's the device you want to change the partitions? sdb, sdc, what?
[03:51] <allquixotic> or to put on my server rather
[03:51] <mib_qxo0nj> kestrel: i only see network monitor
[03:52] <KillerOrca> carandraug, I got everything partioned out correctly now, that part is done
[03:52] <kestrel> mib_qsvzec, that is it.
[03:52] <kev009_> I need to set up a server to run some guest OSes.  what is a good choice to do this on ubuntu?
[03:52] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: roger. now you've got me thinking about installing Jautny on the free space i have available on my hard drive. :-I
[03:53] <carandraug> KillerOrca: ok, mount the partition where you want to backup again now
[03:53] <efledderman> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6442326#post6442326   This thread best explains my issue.  Any able to help?
[03:53] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: i read that it's using xorg 1.6 >.> OOOOoooo!
[03:53] <kestrel> mib_qsvzec, once in panel, right click and edit connections, find wireless and edit
[03:53] <mib_qxo0nj> kestrel: how do i scan for wireless networks?
[03:53] <KillerOrca> carandraug, I want to make the new drive a replacement for the old one, and I think it is mounted already since I'm in a livecd
[03:53] <Mike002> shoeunited: I don't believe that is it, it doesn't look like it from the preview. The theme I am looking for is the one that comes with Hardy that you can select when going to the Theme tab in Appearance Preferences.
[03:53] <kestrel> mib_qsvzec, right click monitor.
[03:53] <mib_qxo0nj> kestrel: im editing the wireless connections but isn't there a feature that allows me to scan for them?
[03:53] <ectospasm> can anyone suggest the best way to upgrade a 1GB USB thumb drive system?  I don't got a lot of free space...
[03:53] <n00bf4rt> mib_qxi=o0nj, it should show them automaticly
[03:54] <mib_qxo0nj> n00bf4rt: it only shows the two previous ones that i have connected to
[03:54] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: ohhh, nice! now only if dri2 was completed and included in there. but i hear it won't be completed until some months from now
[03:54] <n00bf4rt> mib_qxo0nj: ok srry =D
[03:54] <carandraug> KillerOrca: you had to umount them to create the new partitions, right?
[03:54] <kestrel> mib_qsvzec, wireless scanning is auto
[03:54] <shoeunited> Mike002, have you checked the repos, even into multiverse?
[03:55] <KillerOrca> well I'm not sure what the livecd did but the partitions are there
[03:55] <mib_qxo0nj> kestrel: no its not
[03:55] <allquixotic> Decepticon: OOOH, I found a bug
[03:55] <allquixotic> Decepticon: but I fixed it ;)
[03:55] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: yeah, i think i'm going to install Jaunty. gotta check it out now that i know you are. :-P
[03:55] <mib_qxo0nj> kestrel: there are like 15 networks in my area but its only showing the two previous ones that i have connected to
[03:55] <allquixotic> Decepticon: Gnash wasn't scaling properly, I'm having ffmpeg scale it instead :)
[03:55] <kestrel> mib_qsvzec, sorry!
[03:55] <Mike002> shoeunited: Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean. I'm still kind of new to Ubuntu.
[03:55] <D3RGPS31> onetinsolder torrent! :D
[03:55] <mib_qxo0nj> kestrel: :S
[03:56] <Decepticon> allquixotic hm
[03:56] <mib_qxo0nj> kestrel: can i apt-get wicd or have to build from source?
[03:56] <Decepticon> allquixotic im attempting some macros to print my swf, at a properly scaled resolution
[03:56] <allquixotic> Decepticon: I sent you a PNG that was the original image scaled 1.0 with whitespace around it scaled up to 2.0
[03:56] <shoeunited> Mike002, that's alright.  Open synaptic and look through the extra theme packages.  One may contain the glossy theme you want.
[03:56] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: ahh, roger. i'll have to get the torrent then and share it. i should do that with 8.10 as well
[03:56] <kestrel> mib_qsvzec, no knowing
[03:56] <Decepticon> allquixotic i was going to ask you about the whitespace
[03:56] <allquixotic> Decepticon: now I'm uploading a PNG that is the original image without added whitespace, scaled to 3.0
[03:56] <carandraug> KillerOrca: can you please pastebin "df -h" and "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[03:56] <teep2> oh, ick.  It all comes back to me.  Okay, I know what I gotta go do.  I did this once before.  It works fantastically, smooth and easy and everything.  It's just a lot of steps.  :(
[03:57] <allquixotic> Decepticon:  go to http://tiyukquellmalz.org/0000.png and refresh your web browser
[03:57] <D3RGPS31> onetinsolder Thinkin' like a Communist
[03:57] <gregor> any support for http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/ ?
[03:57] <jon_> hi guys
[03:57] <Bigshot_> hello while using "Kate" editor even though "Terminal" plugin is enabled I can't see the "Terminal"!!! http://picpaste.com/term.jpg
[03:57] <pikario> hi whenever i try to skip in a video played in totem, the video goes all black
[03:57] <allquixotic> Decepticon: that's 3.0. I can't get to 4.0 because ffmpeg says it actually has a limit on the encoder which can't go above 2048 resolution on either axis
[03:57] <KillerOrca> carandraug, I am in a livecd so give me a minute
[03:58] <Sorry> men me need analog delphi func (repeat) on php
[03:58] <Decepticon> allquixotic, its a little worrying that that large font is so blurry, which makes me think that other smaller text will be more unreadable :S
[03:58] <onetinsoldier> hi. i have just discovered that when i compile the new kernel(linux-2.6.28) with make-kpg(apt-get install kernel-package), and then try to install the .deb it creates, the postinst script doesn't like that i have an '/etc/kernel/postinst.d' directory(contains one little executable file --> dkms). i've never encountered this problem before when compiling/building a new kernel .deb file with make-kpg. any ideas anyone?
[03:58] <allquixotic> Decepticon: You can use gimp script-fu to get to thousands of pixels in each axis if you really really need high resolution images for some reason; just keep in mind that scaling up the images isn't increasing quality at all, because you're just relying on the pixels that were there in the original SWF
[03:58] <Dante123> hi all, I just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10.  Previously, I was able to play cod2 and talk/listen to TeamSpeak by running the command "aoss TeamSpeak".  However, now I cannot do both at the same time.  Also sound in COD2 under Wine seems a bit slower.  Any suggestions, tips, or ideas?
[03:58] <jon_> i'm not precisely an adept at the workings of computers, but i'm using ubuntu on my computer right now - it's working great, but i'm running into some issues installing ubuntu on my mom's computer
[03:58] <allquixotic> Decepticon: well I can't do anything about that; PNG is lossless, so what you're seeing is basically exactly what we got out of the SWF... the intermediary format is a raw uncompressed video file
[03:59] <Dante123> jon_ what kind of issues?
[03:59] <Decepticon> allquixotic in the original swf, if i scale the original swf upto a humongous resolution, i can obtain a vector image thats got more detail in it
[03:59] <jon_> when i try to boot from the ubuntu cd and install, it finishes loading, then goes to a blank screen
[03:59] <Decepticon> allquixotic, ive been able to get a higher quality pdf out of my swfs, but i dont hae a way of automating the process
[03:59] <allquixotic> Decepticon: ok but PNG isn't a vector image, and I don't know of any video formats that are vector either
[03:59] <Dante123> jon_ are you installing 8.10 or 8.04 or another version?
[03:59] <jon_> 8.10.
[03:59] <Decepticon> allquixotic hmmm, quality is an issue though
[04:00] <Dante123> Sounds like a graphics problem.  Install went okay....just the blanks screen or reboot?
[04:00]  * onetinsoldier goes to read the dkms man page
[04:00] <Dante123> Or do you get the Ubuntu logo ever when loading?
[04:00] <allquixotic> Decepticon: I seriously, seriously doubt that the tools I've been using to do this will seamlessly work if we try to switch to something vectorized like SVG... getting anything vector other than SWF or PDF is pretty much a dead-end, and i'm not even sure how you managed to get that PDF
[04:00] <D3RGPS31> I can't view h33t.com on linux but i can on mac & windows; ipv6 is disabled
[04:00] <Dante123> hi all, I just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10.  Previously, I was able to play cod2 and talk/listen to TeamSpeak by running the command "aoss TeamSpeak".  However, now I cannot do both at the same time.  Also sound in COD2 under Wine seems a bit slower.  Any suggestions, tips, or ideas?
[04:01] <D3RGPS31> #wine :D
[04:01] <pikario> jon_ make sure it's not just the screen saver :D
[04:01] <jon_> the ubuntu logo and progress bar shows, it's after completion of that progress bar that the screen goes black.
[04:01] <Decepticon> allquixotic, i went to http://decepticon.rlogin.org/~decepticon/school/knight2e/gametime3.php?hscale=4.8&wscale=4.8&fileno=0000 (which is scaled 4.8 times up) and printed it to pdf via pdf-printer
[04:01] <weternal> hey, I've got an issue with 8.10.  I just installed it and I didn't get any error messages, but then when I restarted the computer, it booted to OSX without going to a boot screen
[04:02] <Decepticon> allquixotic the problem with that method is that i'd have to do it 1365 times myself, or make a macro
[04:02] <shoeunited> D3RGPS31, have you tried also h33t.net?  I've never run into an issue with that site before (currently running 8.10 have been running since 6.04 - firefox & opera)
[04:02] <Dante123> jon_ one thing you can do is make it so that you can see info/text when booting.  Helps with seeing where it gets stuck....hang on...
[04:02] <Dante123> jon_ Do you know what graphics card is in your mom puter?
[04:02] <D3RGPS31> shoeunited: doesn't work :/
[04:03] <D3RGPS31> i know it's with ubuntu now, and not just linux
[04:03] <shoeunited> D3RGPS31, what browser are you using?
[04:03] <weternal> does anyone know why it wouldn't be using the boot loader?
[04:03] <D3RGPS31> shoeunited: doesn't matter
[04:03] <onats> how do i open up port 5432 on my ubuntu desktop machine?
[04:03] <dstar> anyone know of a weather applet that actually works?
[04:03] <jon_> not offhand, i can try restarting and checking
[04:03] <shoeunited> D3RGPS31, strange, let me do a little research.
[04:04] <D3RGPS31> shoeunited: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6440821#post6440821 explain my problems
[04:04] <pikario> jon_ press a bunch of buttons on your keyboard and move your mouse
[04:04] <pikario> and what happens
[04:04] <D3RGPS31> shoeunited: explains*
[04:04] <sfer21> Hi everyone, I'm having a problem when logging into Gnome, it displays as normal for a few seconds, then shows a terminal and then logs out. I managed to get it to work again once, but as soon as I restarted it stopped working. KDE works fine. Can anyone help me out? Where do I start in troubleshooting this? I have no idea!
[04:04] <Mike002> shoeunited: I've opened Synaptic Package Manager however I can't seem to find the package that contains the Glossy theme that came with Ubuntu.
[04:05] <shoeunited> D3RGPS31, check to see that it isn't in your adblock list by mistake.
[04:05] <jon_> well, this time it looks like it's being cooperative so far
[04:05] <shoeunited> Mike002, just give me a moment to cross check with you. :)
[04:05] <D3RGPS31> shoeunited: it's ubuntu :/
[04:05] <jon_> let's see what happens from here
[04:06] <Brack10> So I've got some phantom process that's taking up 500 megs of memory on my system somewhere (I think).  My memory usage is consistently 500 MB higher than it should be according to my system monitor processes tab with all processes viewable.  Is this a real problem or just me misunderstanding Linux memory management?
[04:06] <allquixotic> Decepticon: pdf-printer? on Windows or Ubuntu?
[04:06] <D3RGPS31> shoeunited: lynx, and firefox can't contact the sites, pinging doesn't work either
[04:06] <Decepticon> allquixotic this is windows :(
[04:06] <dsm> hello
[04:07] <sfer21> Brack10: Linux memory usage is different to Windows', it is also used as a disk cache.\
[04:07] <Decepticon> allquixotic, see http://decepticon.rlogin.org/~decepticon/school/knight2e/0000.pdf
[04:07] <pyrophelia> What's the pulseaudio config file you have to modify to get more than 2.1 sound?
[04:07] <Brack10> sfer21: got a good FAQ page?
[04:07] <sfer21> Brack10: Probably nothing to worry about unless it's slowing your computer severely.
[04:07] <sfer21> Brack10: It was mentioned here before...
[04:08] <Brack10> sfer21: let's see I have a lot more performance issues running a virtual windows box with virtualbox than I did with Microsoft Virtual PC
[04:08] <Brack10> seems to be memory related
[04:08] <Brack10> I have a GB in the mail though
[04:08] <Dante123> jon_  well?
[04:08] <sfer21> Brack10: http://virtualthreads.blogspot.com/2006/02/understanding-memory-usage-on-linux.html
[04:08] <HentaiXP> Brack10, tried vmware server?
[04:08] <Brack10> HentaiXP: yep
[04:09] <Brack10> HentaiXP: It's actaully VMWare workstation
[04:09] <Brack10> HentaiXP: even worse than vbox
[04:09] <sfer21> Brack10: But if it is slowing your computer down a lot, it may be an issue. How much RAM do you have in the machine at the moment?
[04:09] <weternal> what's the matter with my install? it's not giving me the grub screen when I start the computer, but I didn't get an error screen
[04:09] <Brack10> I have 1 GB and the VM was given 512 MB
[04:09] <jon_> okay, looks like i've at least got a mouse pointer on a blank screen now. I got a little farther this time - got past the taupe background and drum/african choir opening. still, nothing seems to be happening now. restart and try again?
[04:10] <HentaiXP> Brack10, ddr2? 4GB is only 40usd shipped these days if you are in the states
[04:10] <Brack10> pc3200
[04:10] <Brack10> 40 usd? where?
[04:10] <pyrophelia> how do you restart pulseaudio?
[04:10] <Decepticon> allquixotic it seems that scaling up doesnt do anything for the pdf printer... see difference between 1.0 scale and 4.8 http://decepticon.rlogin.org/~decepticon/school/knight2e/0000_1.0.pdf http://decepticon.rlogin.org/~decepticon/school/knight2e/0000_4.8.pdf
[04:11] <allquixotic> Decepticon: PDFs are capable of holding vector graphics, so that's why
[04:11] <Bax> I'm trying to copy the suggested MergedFB code into a xorg.conf file to make a dual monitor setup, however nothing is happening with the second monitor I've hooked up to my dual head ATI card.  What should I be expecting once I copy-paste the code into the xorg file?  Is there any other step I'm missing so that my second screen will show some sign it is interfacing with the card?
[04:11] <dsm> somebody have boot puppy linux from a usb
[04:11] <sfer21> dsm: not really ubuntu related
[04:11] <KillerOrca> carandraug, ok, this was all copied off screen since the system has no internet access right now, skipped what I htought was unimportant, let me know if I need to do it again http://paste.ubuntu.com/93567/
[04:11] <pyrophelia> brack10, http://www.pcprogress.com/product.asp?m1=pw&pid=KVR400D2N3K2/4G
[04:11] <squeee> Hey guys, I've got a new laptop with Vista on it, and have been trying to install any of the *buntus, or even test them on it, but I keep getting errors. I've checked the md5sum of the .iso I used to burn and one made from the CD I burned form it against the one online and they match. Is there anything else I should do?
[04:11] <onetinsoldier> hello. anyone here that has the 'dkms' package installed and has compiled their own custom kernel from kernel.org using 'make-kpkg(kernel-package through apt)?
[04:12] <pyrophelia> that was just the first link in pricewatch, i'm sure there's others, he was right it's stupid cheap now
[04:13] <Brack10> yeah but my memory is pc3200 which is more expensive
[04:13] <pyrophelia> that is 3200
[04:13] <sfer21> squee: what's the problem you're having exactly? at what stage?
[04:13] <stan> I paid $20 for 4GB DDR2
[04:13] <pyrophelia> 3200 and 400mhz is the same thing
[04:13] <Brack10> oh ok
[04:13] <pyrophelia> 3200 does not mean 3200mhz
[04:13] <dsm> Hello somebody have boot puppy linux from a usb
[04:13] <shoeunited> D3RGPS31, and it's just h33t.com  check /etc/hosts   also try using just the ip:  87.233.179.135
[04:13] <dsm> help
[04:13] <Brack10> 50 is a pretty good deal
[04:13] <squeee> After maybe 4 bars into loading, I'm getting lists of errors, sfer21
[04:14] <carandraug> KillerOrca: ok. You need to mount hda1 and hdb1
[04:14] <Brack10> but then I could put that toward my next box
[04:14] <pyrophelia> to be honest though, I really wouldn't trust that site.  I'd wait untill after new years and check pricewatch.
[04:14] <D3RGPS31> shoeunited: my DNS isn't the problem, and i've check there :/
[04:14] <sfer21> squee: what are the errors?
[04:14] <sfer21> *squeee
[04:14] <squeee> sfer21, I/O errors, logical blocks
[04:14] <pyrophelia> it's not that i know that site or anything, but it looks a little shady.
[04:14] <KillerOrca> ok, how do I do that? remember I am in a gparted livecd
[04:14] <jon_> Dante, did you get my last message? I'm probably going to restart again pending a response.
[04:14] <Brack10> I'm much more into newegg than pricewatch these days
[04:14] <sfer21> squeee: doesn't look like an issue with the cd...
[04:15] <shoeunited> D3RGPS31, Maybe I mispoke, have you tried H33t's IP address in your address bar?
[04:15] <Dante123> jon_ hang on...
[04:15] <carandraug> KillerOrca: you know how to do it yourself?
[04:15] <pyrophelia> I got screwed by newegg a few months back so whatever floats your boat.  it's your cash :)
[04:15] <KillerOrca> carandraug, no, I do not
[04:15] <shoeunited> If not then try typing this in your address bar:  87.233.179.135
[04:16] <Dante123> jon_ go ahead and restart then...
[04:16] <D3RGPS31> shoeunited: my DNS isn't the problem :/
[04:16] <CountryTrouserTr> For some time now guys ive had big problems with choppiness of video from all flash/ or streaming media online. I thought it was flash, but I installed chromium browser that uses wine and installed windows version flash and it does the same thing. Is there anything I'm missing here. Everyone seems to think its from flash, but could it be from another source and not flash?
[04:16] <spionlala> hi, my gtk is absolute hell, im using intrepid with fglrx (doesnt matter which version, tested like all of them..), with compiz activated its great, everything is smooth, but i would prefer to work without compiz, but without compiz my whole gnome becomes sluggish as hell, i tried several things in xorg.conf, nothing helped
[04:16] <stan> CountryTrouserTr,  system specs?
[04:16] <raphre> hello, whenever i login gnome it displays the wallpaper and cursor then crashes, help?
[04:16] <pyrophelia> CountryTrouserTr, what cpu?
[04:16] <shoeunited> D3RGPS31, have you tried that address though? y/n?
[04:16] <hendershot> Sysinfo for 'Hendershot-desktop': Linux 2.6.27-9-generic running KDE 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3), CPU: VIASamuel2 at 350 MHz (701 bogomips), HD: 3/11GB, RAM: 353/367MB, 118 proc's, 1.29h up
[04:16] <sfer21> raphre: does it return you to the login screen or display a box?
[04:17] <raphre> sfer21, back to login
[04:17] <carandraug> KillerOrca: run "sudo mkdir /media/a1", "sudo mkdir /media/b1", "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /media/a1" and "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /media/b1"
[04:17] <pyrophelia> CountryTrouserTr, unlike windows and mac, all video processing is done by the cpu.  if your cpu is a little weak it will show when trying to watch falsh
[04:17] <sfer21> raphre: i happen to be having that exact same issue!
[04:17] <CountryTrouserTr> ok back
[04:17] <sfer21> been trying to fix it for a few days, but can't find any help at all.
[04:17] <raphre> does it turn pruple then crash?
[04:17] <raphre> purple*
[04:17] <hendershot> hey guys is there a like a widget add on site that has like everything
[04:18] <CountryTrouserTr> system specs quad core amd 2.6, 4 gigs of ddr ram 8200 onboard video card 8 series.
[04:18] <CountryTrouserTr> 10mb internet
[04:18] <pyrophelia> quad core 2.6?
[04:18] <sfer21> raphre: it just does it's normal stuff for a few seconds then goes back to the login screen. may be something to do with the startup scripts?
[04:18] <hendershot> CountryTrouserTr: /sysinfo
[04:18] <CountryTrouserTr> On windows it is fine
[04:18] <stan> sounds like time for a new cpu
[04:18] <Dante123> jon_   look at http://www.foogazi.com/2007/10/27/remove-the-ubuntu-splash-screen/
[04:18] <pyrophelia> well again that's because in windows most of the flash processing is done by the gfx card, not the cpu
[04:19] <stan> 2.6ghz is kinda slow
[04:19] <BobPenguin> Hello. Why is debian faster than ubuntu on older machines? can I  tweak ubuntu to be as fast as debian?
[04:19] <CountryTrouserTr> hendershot /sysinfo does nothing
[04:19] <Dante123> jon_ to get an idea of where it is hanging
[04:19] <raphre> sfer21, while i was enabling plugins in compiz gnome just crashed and returned me to the login screen
[04:19] <D3RGPS31> shoeunited: yes :/
[04:19] <CountryTrouserTr> headershot: here or in terminal I dont have a script running anymore for xchat
[04:19] <KillerOrca> stan mine is 800 MHz
[04:19] <pyrophelia> that's a little strange though, i've got a amd 3200 with no problems with flash.  I can't imagine a quad core would lag.
[04:19] <stan> yea but quad 2.6 is like a solitair machine
[04:19] <sfer21> raphre: ok, try a failsafe gnome session and then you might need to disable compiz from there
[04:19] <KillerOrca> carandraug, how do i mount the drives?
[04:19] <spionlala> stan are you serious?
[04:19] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: 2.6 is plenty fast for flash
[04:19] <shoeunited> D3RGPS31, alright don't worry, I'm working on it, just trying to collect information :)
[04:19] <stan> im just kidding.
[04:19] <anthony> is it possible to use VLC as a screen capturing tool?
[04:19] <spionlala> you are joking right stan
[04:19] <spionlala> ;d
[04:19] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: I can run flash on an 1gig amd upstairs fine
[04:19] <stan> i use a 1.2ghz p4m laptop and flash is fine
[04:20] <mobodo> can I uninstall a package and have it reinstall like it's the first time?
[04:20] <teep2> Okay.  Now it's got menus on the DVD and all of that appears to be working.  (It's the xine backend for totem.  Works lots better than the other one.)  It still takes a while to undo the DVDs but it's not a new and speedy computer.
[04:20] <hendershot> CountryTrouserTr: in here type /sysinfo
[04:20] <mobodo> (reconfigure everything etc.)
[04:20] <BobPenguin> anthony, you might want to use recordmydesktop intead
[04:20] <raphre> sfer21, tried that, still doesnt work
[04:20] <carandraug> KillerOrca: with these 4 commands
[04:20] <carandraug> KillerOrca: run "sudo mkdir /media/a1", "sudo mkdir /media/b1", "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /media/a1" and "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /media/b1"
[04:20] <nickrud> mobodo,  sudo apt-get install --reinstall <pkg>
[04:20] <stan> CountryTrouserTr, bad video drivers?
[04:20] <CountryTrouserTr> hendershot: /sysinfo doesn't work
[04:20] <CountryTrouserTr> stand: if it runs fine what video card u have
[04:20] <white-sheep> CountryTrouserTr: Try that in terminal.
[04:20] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: newest nvidia 177 drivers
[04:20] <hendershot> CountryTrouserTr: it worked for me
[04:21] <mobodo> nickrud: it does not reconfigure :(
[04:21] <CountryTrouserTr> hendershot: you prob. have a script for xchat
[04:21] <nickrud> mobodo, what package?
[04:21] <CountryTrouserTr> white-sheep: do what in term
[04:21] <BobPenguin> Hello. Why is debian faster than ubuntu on older machines? can I  tweak ubuntu to be as fast as debian?
[04:21] <mobodo> nickrud: mythtv
[04:21] <white-sheep> sysinfo
[04:21] <sfer21> raphre: hmm, i don't know. i'm having the problem and it is really annoying. got it to work once, but as soon as i restarted it stopped working again.
[04:21] <jon_> thanks Dante, trying it now - bear with me, this computer's a pretty ugly piece of work
[04:21] <hendershot> CountryTrouserTr: im using konversation
[04:21] <white-sheep> CountryTrouserTr: Install + run sysinfo -- I betcha.
[04:21] <gregor> Dante123, a site, getting its icon from imageshack.us? oO
[04:21] <mobodo> nickrud: I screwed up with mysql and I need it to reconfigure its database
[04:21] <CountryTrouserTr> white-sheep: how?
[04:21] <raphre> sfer, i am on icewm right now and i opened nautilus and my wallpaper loaded and my desktop icons, does that mean anything to you?
[04:22] <nvc> hi, where could i find a good selection of gnome desktop themes?
[04:22] <nickrud> mobodo, ah, then it might just well be a package other than mythtv:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall mythtv-frontend mythtv-database mythtv-backend
[04:22] <nvc> gnome-look.com is pretty crapy
[04:22] <white-sheep> mobodo: Try sudo aptitude purge <xyzpackage> (this will remove configuration files too).
[04:22] <pinky_> hey...any wireless sniffer tools suggest under ubuntu 8.1
[04:22] <CountryTrouserTr> hendershot: ive tried konverstaion, mozilla, firefox and now chromium browsers.. All the same
[04:22] <white-sheep> CountryTrouserTr: sudo aptitude install sysinfo && sysinfo
[04:22] <anthony> how can I go about using VLC as a screen capture tool?
[04:23] <treyk4> Does anyone in here speak both french and english well?
[04:23] <kev009_> is there a guide to do nfsroot with ubuntu?
[04:23] <sfer21> raphre: i'm not sure what my problem is, and i don't know where to start troubleshooting...
[04:23] <rww> treyk4: if you need help in French, ask in #ubuntu-fr
[04:23] <Lexvegas> nvc, isn't it .org?
[04:23] <white-sheep> anthony: Somebody answered your question earlier -- "Use recordmydesktop instead"
[04:23] <KillerOrca> carandraug, ok I ran those commands
[04:23] <anthony> oh ok
[04:23] <anthony> sorry
[04:23] <nvc> Lexvegas: yeah, wrong ending
[04:23] <BobPenguin> anthony, you might want to use recordmydesktop intead
[04:23] <hendershot> CountryTrouserTr: so have i
[04:23] <spionlala> yes its org, com is a lame page :D
[04:23] <nvc> my bad
[04:23] <weternal> hey does anyone know why I wouldn't be able to access ubuntu after installation, the installation completed without error but it went to OSX without going through the grub boot screen does anyone know why that would be?
[04:23] <anthony> got it thank you all so much
[04:23] <anthony> I love this room!
[04:23] <treyk4> rww: acutally, I've found the supposed solution to my wifi problem, but it's in french... http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=271639
[04:24] <Lexvegas> just making sure you knew the correct site :)
[04:24] <rww> treyk4: ah, okay. I know a little, let me take a quick look.
[04:24] <nvc> :P
[04:24] <CountryTrouserTr> ok I installed sysinfo
[04:24] <CountryTrouserTr> but what do u wanna know
[04:24] <spionlala> pls how can i improve gtk/gnome 2d performance with fglrx and compiz DEactivated?
[04:24] <D3RGPS31> how do i upgrade ubuntu from the iso >.>
[04:24] <carandraug> KillerOrca: can you now pastebin "df -h"? I only care for lines starting by "/dev/" so you don't need to paste all lines
[04:24] <raphre> sfer21, i checked my error log and it said that "gnome-wm" wasnt found
[04:25] <CountryTrouserTr> white-sheep: I installed it, now what do u wanna know?
[04:25] <rww> D3RGPS31: You can only do it with the Alternate ISO, not the desktop ISO. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD
[04:25] <sfer21> raphre: that could be a problem...
[04:26] <squeee> Can anyone think of a reason why ubuntu isn't installing, or a solution to get ubuntu to instal on my laptop? There's no errors with the CD, and I'm getting I/O errors and Logical blocks when I try to install
[04:26] <raphre> sfer21, the weird thing is, i never deleted it or even touched it
[04:26] <pikario> hi, whenever i play a video in totem it plays fine until i skip in the video and then it goes to a black screen but the sound still plays. what's wrong?
[04:26] <stan> squeee, get a working cdrom drive
[04:26] <anthony> I'm looking to buy a new laptop, anyone have any suggestions as to where I can look for specs that are very Linux friendly?
[04:26] <white-sheep> CountryTrouserTr: I didn't want to know anything -- I only helped you with your sysinfo issue. :o
[04:27] <jon_> A heads-up - every one of these installs has got me a little further into this installation process. This time, everything seems to be going pretty swimmingly. Of course, I probably would have said that at similar points during the previous restarts... in any case, looks like things might be alright from here. I'll let you know if anything gets nuts from here.
[04:27] <RWdrone> could anyone possibly give me a little advice about uvc-video? I'm getting an error that I don't understand...
[04:27] <white-sheep> !md5sum | squeee -- Did you check it first?
[04:27] <nickrud> !laptop | anthony
[04:27] <rww> treyk4: looks like the solution was blacklisting ath_pci (with "echo 'blacklist ath_pci' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist") and installing the backport kernel modules
[04:27] <anthony> got it
[04:27] <anthony> thanks again
[04:27] <CountryTrouserTr> white-sheep: ahh, well they wanted to know that I already knew what I had haha, but thx, it is a nice gui proggy.
[04:28] <squeee> white-sheep, yes, I checked the md5sums
[04:28] <CountryTrouserTr> my issue is with flash videos online being so crappy and choppy
[04:28] <craigbass1976> I just did a fresh xubuntu install on my laptop.  Wireless was too easy.  What happened?  I have a broadcom 43xx and always had to go through some cutter routine (just did it on someone else's lappy and had to do it on mine again when I went from feisty to hardy--with a gutsy stop between)
[04:28] <CountryTrouserTr> and no one for 6 days now having linux has known a solution for it
[04:28] <white-sheep> CountryTrouserTr: I wouldn't know.  I don't use it myself. >_>
[04:28] <craigbass1976> I'm not complaining, but was a bit blown away.
[04:28] <nickrud> craigbass1976, yeah, they automated that a bit better, didn't they :)
[04:28] <RWdrone> I compile the module for the kernel I have and got no errors up until I tried to modprobe the uvc module
[04:28] <KillerOrca> carandraug, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/93571/
[04:28] <CountryTrouserTr> For some time now guys ive had big problems with choppiness of video from all flash/ or streaming media online. I thought it was flash, but I installed chromium browser that uses wine and installed windows version flash and it does the same thing. Is there anything I'm missing here. Everyone seems to think its from flash, but could it be from another source and not flash?
[04:29] <craigbass1976> nickrud, I'll say.  Was that just within the last couple of weeks?
[04:29] <maco> CountryTrouserTr: slow computer?
[04:29] <craigbass1976> nickrud, I think it was just after Thanksgiving that I did it on a friend's laptop, or just before...
[04:29] <nickrud> craigbass1976, it was like that when I installed one of  the late 8.10 alphas
[04:29] <stan> CountryTrouserTr, does VLC work fine?
[04:29] <white-sheep> !hardware | anthony
[04:29] <stan> maco hes got a quad lots of ghz lots of ram lots of hd
[04:30] <craigbass1976> nickrud, this is still 8.4  When did the 8.10 alpha come out?
[04:30] <shoeunited> D3RGPS31, and you've disabled ipv6 globally?
[04:30] <anthony> I can just type !hardware here?
[04:30] <anthony> !hardware
[04:30] <stan> craigbass1976, where di you get 8.4 ?!
[04:30] <D3RGPS31> shoeunited: yes
[04:30] <fuxxy> Have I mentioned how much I love these PC speakers?
[04:30] <nickrud> craigbass1976, somewhere around august?
[04:30] <rww> craigbass1976: 8.10 final came out in October (hence its version number)
[04:30] <maco> stan: oh. ok nevermind.
[04:30] <anthony> !hardware | anthony
[04:30] <fuxxy> I dont' use a desktop anymore, so I attached them to my new LCD.
[04:30] <anthony> ok
[04:30] <sfer21> anthony: it's a robot
[04:30] <white-sheep> !fishing | anthony
[04:30] <weternal> hey does anyone know how to get grub and osx to play nice together?
[04:30] <anthony> sorry newb here
[04:31] <R1_> Hi, is there  anyway to check what version of ieee80211 subsystem i have on my ubuntu 8.10 intrepid?
[04:31] <allquixotic> hahaha... I tried to download a manual for a Radeon HD4830 and got a toaster manual instead :)
[04:31] <shoeunited> D3RGPS31, You're certain that it's not your DNS and you've tried a free DNS alt like openDNS?
[04:31] <nickrud> craigbass1976, they may have backported it of course. 'stable' ubuntu doesn't quite mean the same as 'stable' debian
[04:31] <treyk4> rww: wait... how excatly would I install the backport modules?
[04:31] <rabidweezle> has anyone tried ati's catalyst drivers?
[04:31] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: success! i found out a package that was installed that i didn't need must have a bug in it(nvidia-common - i'm an ati user so i don't use it) and i purged it frmo my system, and then, my custom linux-image-2.6.28-maroon-bells-amd64_20081226_amd64.deb installed with no complaint whatsoever!
[04:31] <craigbass1976> stan, I just downloaded it yesterday or today.  It was on the xubuntu site.  My laptop is too much of a turd to run GNOME well now, so I installed the XUB instead
[04:31] <weternal> I just installed 8.10 on a macbook running osx.4 and when I restarted it went straight to osx without running GRUB
[04:31] <D3RGPS31> shoeunited: yes
[04:31] <StevenX> Hello all. I need help getting rid of an error. I think it's a problem with my sources list, but I'm not sure which entry is causing the error. Here is the link to the error.  https://webshare.uchicago.edu/users/sleiva/Public/Error.png?uniq=ebkdie
[04:32] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: D: i downloaded the wrong disc image :/
[04:32] <KillerOrca> carandraug, I ran the 4 commands you gave me, now what do i do?
[04:32] <adam7> StevenX: edgy is no longer supported
[04:32] <R1_> weternal, macs hate all other OS ;)
[04:32] <craigbass1976> nickrud, I have yet to run a linx box that was as buggy as windows 98.  I didn't use much windows after that, so I can't say how it compares to later windows
[04:32] <adam7> StevenX: you need to upgrade
[04:32] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: oh? how did you manage that? wrong architecture?
[04:32] <nickrud> weternal, you'll probably need to keep asking, at about the same rate :) macs aren't real common here, but useful help comes through
[04:32] <craigbass1976> nickrud, the only blue screens I've seen are my wallpapers though
[04:32] <shoeunited> D3RGPS31, I'm sorry then. :(  This is a real pickle.  I'm gonna have to pass the torch on this one.  It's over my knowledge and my google-fu.  :(  Sorry I couldn't help.  But there's plenty of other well informed people who may have your answer.
[04:32] <nickrud> craigbass1976, then you never compiled linux from scratch :_)
[04:32] <carandraug> KillerOrca: "rsync -acvSHx --exclude lost+found /media/b1/home /media/a1/"
[04:32] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: desktop iso, not alternative >.>
[04:32] <StevenX> adam7, how can I go about doing that? I thought I had upgraded.
[04:33] <squeee> My installations fail on the kernel event manager and when trying to check file systems
[04:33] <rww> treyk4: give me a sec, the instructions for it are eluding me
[04:33] <weternal> nickrud well I'm not the mac user--I believe in freedom :), but I've got a convert, so I'm trying to get it to work with her OSx install
[04:33]  * D3RGPS31 checks off shoeunited as number 6
[04:33] <adam7> StevenX: upgraded to dapper or something?
[04:33] <craigbass1976> nickrud, no, I did not.  Always wanted to, but never got around to it.  I hear linux-from-scratch is quite a learning experiance
[04:33] <carandraug> KillerOrca: sorry, it's "rsync -acvSHx --exclude lost+found /media/b1/home/ /media/a1/"
[04:33] <treyk4> rww: alright, I'm still googling it myself
[04:33] <KillerOrca> carandraug, and that will allow me to use the new hard dirve as a replacement?
[04:34] <carandraug> KillerOrca: nonono. Wait. Give me 1 minute
[04:34] <nickrud> craigbass1976, it's been 7 or 8 years now, and I still run off a lot I learned then
[04:34] <R1_> Hi, is there  anyway to check what version of ieee80211 subsystem i have on my ubuntu 8.10 intrepid?
[04:34] <CountryTrouserTr> ok back
[04:34] <rww> treyk4: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid, I think
[04:34] <StevenX> adam7, this is what i get in the about ubuntu window: Thank you for your interest in Ubuntu 8.10
[04:34] <StevenX>                 - the Intrepid Ibex - released in October 2008.
[04:34] <StevenX> 				
[04:34] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: oh. i could see how since Jaunty is an alpha/beta, you would want the alternative image. still, i'll ask, what's wrong with getting and trying the desktop iso image?
[04:34] <CountryTrouserTr> maco: its not the fastest but slow for flash no its not
[04:34] <adam7> StevenX: ok, run sudo apt-get update
[04:34] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: no idea how to upgrade from it
[04:34] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: vlc works fine for videos from harddrives, xvid dvds ect.. just nothing online that has flash
[04:34] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: i see
[04:34] <craigbass1976> nickrud, every time I get a box I think will do, I need a server somewhere in a hurry
[04:34] <rww> onetinsoldier: upgrading from iso or CD is only supported by the alternate iso, not the desktop iso, according to the wiki
[04:34] <treyk4> rww: Thanks! I'll try that
[04:35] <nickrud> craigbass1976, you'll want to use a partition on a working machine (required to do lfs), just set up a small partition you'll be chrooting into
[04:35] <donavan> anyone know what command will let me see the bindings of my devices?
[04:35] <StevenX> adam7, I did that. Got the same error: W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[04:35] <StevenX> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[04:35] <StevenX> steven@ub
[04:36] <sumo_su> for fun i just compiled a new kernel (.28) for hardy.. and it works... will i run into "issues" if i run it under that kernel?
[04:36] <onetinsoldier> rww: ahh-ha. roger. i am thinking about installing jaunty fresh on my available free hard drive space. i'm thinking i'll try the desktop image
[04:36] <shoeunited> D3RGPS31, One note though.  I don't have your system specs, but I did find a couple messages that led to a possible hardware/ubuntu issues.  If I were you, I'd cross reference my hardware and similar ping related problems.
[04:36] <adam7> StevenX: can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[04:36] <StevenX> adam7, will do. Give me a sec to give you the URL.
[04:36] <D3RGPS31> shoeunited: i'm lazy :/
[04:37] <hendershot> hey guys im reinstalling my kubuntu with an official disk can anyone help me with this
[04:37] <rww> StevenX: edgy is unsupported, and its packages aren't on *.archive.ubuntu.com. You'll need to edit your sources.list to point to a new server whose URL i'm trying to find...
[04:37] <white-sheep> I wonder if one do know what 'Configuration for ALSA' in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech does?
[04:37] <StevenX> adam7, http://paste.ubuntu.com/93578/
[04:37] <adam7> rww: he supposedly upgraded to 8.10
[04:37] <CountryTrouserTr> For some time now guys ive had big problems with choppiness of video from all flash/ or streaming media online. I thought it was flash, but I installed chromium browser that uses wine and installed windows version flash and it does the same thing. Is there anything I'm missing here. Everyone seems to think its from flash, but could it be from another source and not flash?
[04:37] <shoeunited> D3RGPS31, Apparently these hardware related issues were fixable.  But since I wasn't looking for hardware, there wasn't any information to cross reference.  They claimed to have fixed it, but didn't give any system specs themselves.
[04:37] <rww> adam7: ah, didn't see that, thanks
[04:38] <shoeunited> D3RGPS31, If you would like I can talk to you in PM for a moment.
[04:38] <craigbass1976> nickrud, you any good with apache?
[04:38] <StevenX> rww, thank you for your help. I thought I had upgraded to 8.10. At least that is what Ubuntu tells me when I go to System --> About Ubuntu
[04:38] <D3RGPS31> shoeunited: alright
[04:38] <adam7> StevenX: find all the lines with edgy in them, and put a # in from of them
[04:38] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: time for me to reboot now that i successfully installed the new kernel! - i'm off to see the kernel, the wonderful kernel of linux. because, because because... because of the wonderful things he does. hehe
[04:38] <rww> CountryTrouserTr: random shot in the dark: do you have compiz enabled? if so, turn it off and see if that helps
[04:38] <adam7> rww: no problem
[04:38] <nickrud> craigbass1976, simple stuff: I run servers for prototyping drupal sites
[04:38] <carandraug> KillerOrca: ok, it's "rsync -acvSHx --exclude lost+found /media/b1/ /media/a1/"
[04:38] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: i hope you panic
[04:38] <rabidweezle> drupal=?
[04:38] <pinky_> hey...any wireless sniffer tools suggest under ubuntu 8.1
[04:39] <kyle__> any idea why the graphics look corrupted in pydance?
[04:39] <CountryTrouserTr> rww: I did have , but I formatted and started over to see if I could find out a solution.. So no compiz is not enable at the current time.
[04:39] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: :-P rofl
[04:39] <pinky_> any one can answer me..thanks
[04:39] <rabidweezle> Pinky, check out aircrack-ng
[04:39] <craigbass1976> nickrud, I've erased /var/www and have www in my home directory, then made a link in /var to it.  WOrked in the past, but now I'm getting a message when I go to localhost about downloading some PHTML file
[04:39] <KillerOrca> carandraug, and that will create a replacement HDD?
[04:39] <carandraug> KillerOrca: this should backup everything from one HDD to another. Then, if you'll need to edit /media/a1/etc/fstab to boot from that HDD
[04:40] <KillerOrca> ok, let me run that command
[04:40] <pinky_> rabid...what cmd can install  aircrack-ng
[04:40] <nickrud> craigbass1976, better is to edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/default . I do the same, and then change /etc/apache2/envars to run apache as myself
[04:40] <StevenX> adam7, I commented out two lines, 59 & 62.
[04:40] <rabidweezle> Pinky, should be sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng
[04:40] <adam7> StevenX: ok, then apt-get update again
[04:40] <deadamerican> shit
[04:40] <StevenX> did so. seemed to work without any problems.
[04:40] <rww> !ohmy | deadamerican
[04:41] <StevenX> should I enable one of them and see if I get the problem again?
[04:41] <craigbass1976> nickrud, gah...  I could just put it back and put a link in my home dir...
[04:41] <CountryTrouserTr> whatch your language deadamerican
[04:41] <deadamerican> i am friendly
[04:41] <sumo_su> may i repeat my question: for fun i just compiled a new kernel (.28) for hardy.. and it works... will i run into "issues" if i run it under that kernel?
[04:41] <pikario> hi, where can i get support on the totem movie player?
[04:41] <gregor> any support for http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/ ?
[04:41] <deadamerican> i got something you can watch CountryTrouserTr
[04:41] <deadamerican> smooth flash video
[04:41] <CountryTrouserTr> profanity is not prohibited here
[04:41] <deadamerican> i didnt say vista
[04:41] <rabidweezle> lol
[04:42] <deadamerican> shut up
[04:42] <deadamerican> you know its getter
[04:42] <nickrud> craigbass1976, I like to work within the system :) the only issue I had is with phpmyadmin, had to add a blowfish_secret to it's config
[04:42] <deadamerican> err
[04:42] <deadamerican> better
[04:42] <FloodBot1> deadamerican: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:42] <usser> sumo_su, shouldnt have any issues
[04:42] <adam7> deadamerican: do you have a support question?
[04:42] <CountryTrouserTr> dont flood american
[04:42] <KillerOrca> carandraug, it said bash: rsync: command not found
[04:42] <deadamerican> ok i will paste my antics then
[04:42] <deadamerican> jesus
[04:42] <usser> sumo_su, as long as it runs fine
[04:42] <BobPenguin> hello. I installed on an celeron 750 ubuntu 8.10, and after that ubuntustudio 8.10. I'm under the impression ubuntu studio performs better on older machines. Would that make sense?
[04:43] <nickrud> deadamerican, support questions only, and think disney G rated for language ;)
[04:43] <craigbass1976> nickrud, I've never used phpmyadmin for mor ethan a couple minutes, and that was always with someone over my shoulder.  Gimme a command line and I'm all set.
[04:43] <craigbass1976> probably too intuitive for me to grasp
[04:43] <deadamerican> adam7: yes i do, flash is choppy
[04:43] <sumo_su> usser: any test i could run to see if everything is ok?
[04:43] <deadamerican> choppier then that disney pirate movie
[04:43] <CountryTrouserTr> now deadamerican you are annoying but Im having same issue
[04:43] <nickrud> craigbass1976, it's nice for making quick changes in a row (critical for when I break drupal's database :)
[04:43] <deadamerican> whoa?
[04:43] <deadamerican> with linux
[04:43] <deadamerican> bs
[04:43] <CountryTrouserTr> yes
[04:44] <Slack_> whats the unzip command
[04:44] <CountryTrouserTr> no with dos, yes linux
[04:44] <carandraug> KillerOrca: hmmm! You said you weren't in a Ubuntu LiveCD right?
[04:44] <deadamerican> damn, we should go get some coffee and talk about our "linux" issues
[04:44] <stan> Slack_, unzip
[04:44] <nickrud> Slack_, unzip
[04:44] <nickrud> Slack_, or, right click the zip file
[04:44] <usser> sumo_su, apart from testing your hardware, ie wifi, graphics etc. i cant think of any. compiling the kernel nowadays is not such a big deal. but if u do want to run some tests look into phoronix test suite
[04:44] <Slack_> makes sense
[04:44] <craigbass1976> nickrud, I do cheat some and use OOBase to edit databases sometimes though...
[04:44] <adam7> deadamerican: what flash applet is choppy?
[04:44] <BobPenguin> hello. I installed on an celeron 750 ubuntu 8.10, and after that ubuntustudio 8.10. I'm under the impression ubuntu studio performs better on older machines. Would that make sense?
[04:44] <KillerOrca> carandraug, yeah i'm in a gparted livecd, would a puppy livecd work?
[04:45] <sumo_su> usser: k thanks!
[04:45] <CountryTrouserTr> gparted is kewl proggy
[04:45] <deadamerican> adam7: not an applet, all flash based video and websites, like watching in slow motion
[04:45] <maco> BobPenguin: better than...what?
[04:45] <CountryTrouserTr> so its choppy like mine right?
[04:45] <deadamerican> ive enabled renderaccel and all the other good stuff, but no change at all
[04:45] <adam7> deadamerican: what graphics card?
[04:45] <deadamerican> nvidia 8200
[04:45] <CountryTrouserTr> looks like an old film strip when you was 3, that was getting at by the reel.
[04:45] <CountryTrouserTr> ate
[04:45] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: back
[04:46] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: how is it
[04:46] <carandraug> KillerOrca: I don't know what programs exist in those LiveCD. Maybe it comes with rsync
[04:46] <hendershot> search
[04:46] <BobPenguin> maco, ubuntu studio better than plain ubuntu. Maybe they took out compliz or something. I would like to know so I know wheter to install ubuntustudio again on the box
[04:46] <deadamerican> CountryTrouserTr: just like that, 8fps
[04:46] <craigbass1976> nickrud, duh....  So I installed all the php modules, apache, and mysql, but forgot to install php...
[04:46] <CountryTrouserTr> deadamerican: more like 3fps
[04:46] <deadamerican> flashing betty boop movie
[04:46] <nickrud> rflol
[04:46] <CountryTrouserTr> flash and linux can't beat windows thats for sure
[04:46] <maco> BobPenguin: no, ubuntu studio is just regular ubuntu + some stuff for doing video editing...and video editing would be something that requires a faster computer
[04:46] <craigbass1976> nickrud, perhaps THAT was the issue
[04:46] <adam7> CountryTrouserTr: does it use full cpu when you run the flash applet?
[04:46] <CountryTrouserTr> and all the ppl that has this problem it looks like someone here would know how to fix it
[04:46] <BobPenguin> thanks maco
[04:46] <maco> BobPenguin: xubuntu is the light-weight ubuntu
[04:47] <maco> BobPenguin: it uses xfce instead of gnome
[04:47] <KillerOrca> carandraug, I will boot into the livecd and check for rsync, will be a little while, could you PM what I have to edit in fstab?
[04:47] <deadamerican> CountryTrouserTr: agreed amongst other things that errr win still bests the frozen bird
[04:47] <adam7> CountryTrouserTr: flash on mine works just as well as flash on XP
[04:47] <CountryTrouserTr> adam7: I use 2.6ghz I mean if flash uses that much then linux isn't the os for me.
[04:47]  * nickrud is avoiding all talk of flash issues, afraid of infections
[04:47] <deadamerican> adam7: what video card you have?
[04:47] <adam7> CountryTrouserTr: no, it runs fine on my 1.8ghz -- your graphics card?
[04:47] <CountryTrouserTr> adam7: I have no idea how much it uses, but surely 2.6 ghz dual core is plenty
[04:47] <BobPenguin> thanks maco. I tried that too but there was not much difference. I did also try debian and that was faster, but software offer is not as good as ubuntus
[04:47] <maco> BobPenguin: there's also a fluxbuntu and an ubuntu-lite somewhere in existence, but they dont get support in here. i assume they have their own channels.
[04:47]  * IndyGunFreak talks to nickrud about flash
[04:47] <woody86> Can someone help me out? in the terminal  /sbin/iwconfig doesn't show any wireless networks?
[04:47] <maco> BobPenguin: er, debian is where we get all our packages
[04:48] <carandraug> KillerOrca: you'll need to find the UUID of the partitions and switch them for the apropriate
[04:48]  * nickrud turns IndyGunFreak's weapon back on him
[04:48] <CountryTrouserTr> adam7: 8200 series onboard, so in other words 750a sli 500mhz with 512 ram
[04:48] <deadamerican> 8200 issue im guessing
[04:48] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[04:48] <adam7> CountryTrouserTr: ah, both you and deadamerican have an 8200
[04:48] <nickrud> hey IndyGunFreak long time no see
[04:48] <maco> BobPenguin: did you not enable all of debian's repositories?
[04:48] <deadamerican> does the same with my 8500gt
[04:48] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: eh, i'm around.. mostly lurk nowdays, tend ot hang out in off topic channels, but i pop in from time to time
[04:48] <carandraug> KillerOrca: you can find the UUID with "ls -lF /dev/disk/by-uuid/". Then you edit fstab with the new values
[04:48] <CountryTrouserTr> adam7: I guess so, but its not just 8200's, ive read on google 100 cases or more
[04:48] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: i'll have to use it some to be able to tell if it speedier, more peppy. i expect it to be though since i totally customized it. i do have a problem though. sounds isn't working. i don't think i left anything out as if iirc, when i compiled rc-X versions of this kernel i had sound. but i'll have to look at my config or look around on my system to try and figure that out
[04:49] <maco> BobPenguin: if you dont need any of the restricted modules, it'd also be possible to recompile the kernel with less stuff so it's faster, but that requires knowing exactly what you do and don't need
[04:49] <CountryTrouserTr> adam7: all I know is windows I have no problem at all
[04:49] <deadamerican> driver issues
[04:49] <deadamerican> errrr
[04:49] <deadamerican> i mean "module" issues
[04:49] <CountryTrouserTr> adam7: linux its like watching a porn tape in super slow mode with choppy buffering on a 7 baud modem.
[04:50] <deadamerican> WOW
[04:50] <adam7> CountryTrouserTr: does the desktop effects (ie, compiz) work?
[04:50] <BobPenguin> maco, I guess I did not. Can I get all the ubuntu packages for debian? I just read somtihng in the net about debian beiing slow  at realeasing packages, and for instance I did get wine 0.8 or something from debian, while I think wine has got to 1.0 already
[04:50] <CountryTrouserTr> adam7: yes it works great, although its disable at the moment
[04:50] <maco> deadamerican: you can say driver. i mean, they are drivers. and not all drivers are modules. they can be compiled in.
[04:50] <samd> Im formating a 8g memory card for my internet tablet, whats better in performance, ext2 vs fat32?
[04:50] <deadamerican> anything loaded into the kernel is a module
[04:50] <deadamerican> driver is a windows term
[04:51] <deadamerican> been that way for 15 years now
[04:51] <CountryTrouserTr> I thought a driver was someone who uses an automobile :)
[04:51] <samd> lol
[04:51] <joljam> firefox on ubuntu intrepid is very slow
[04:51] <carandraug> KillerOrca: you got it? I'll leave to eat something now, ok?
[04:51] <CountryTrouserTr> adam7: so any solutions?
[04:51] <jon_> alright guys, it's started the final installation.
[04:51] <joljam> can anyone help me with it
[04:51] <stan> CountryTrouserTr, thats a common misperceptoin.. that person might also be a passanger
[04:51] <adam7> deadamerican: it's official title is : ATI Catalyst™ 8.12 Proprietary Linux x86 Display Driver
[04:51] <CountryTrouserTr> joljam: yeah try flash it's extra slow then lol
[04:52] <maco> BobPenguin: oh you just mean the versions? ok, well see debian releases when it's ready. ubuntu releases every 6 months, whether it's really stable or not.  that means sometimes stuff gets old by the time it reaches debian stable. they're about to release lenny as stable though.  and they have more options than "stable" and "not stable" (what ubuntu has). they have stable (often older versions), testing (somewhat newer), unstable (what it says), and exper
[04:52] <rww> samd: you probably won't notice any difference in performace. Fat32 doesn't support files larger than 4GB, and doesn't support file permissions. If you don't need the card to be compatible with other operating systems (like Windows), just use ext2.
[04:52] <pentaside> How can I make a script load at startup?
[04:52] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: i read that sound did have problems with the new kernel
[04:52] <adam7> pentaside: on computer boot or user login?
[04:52] <maco> pentaside: system ->pref->sessions ... add it to startup
[04:52] <deadamerican> adam7: dont care what they call it, they are using "friendly" terms since people are still trying to make linux more accessible
[04:52] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: perhaps, but only in drives ed :)
[04:52] <pentaside> computer
[04:52] <CountryTrouserTr> drivers
[04:52] <maco> pentaside: er, thats for at login
[04:52] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: oh? really? dang, that's a bummer to hear
[04:52] <jon_> I just want to thank you guys, for what it's worth. Linux is a pretty amazing thing to have around, and having an IRC channel dedicated to support for its installation is a blessing to the computer world. Thanks so much all! (Hopefully, I won't be bugging you for more help in a couple hours.)
[04:53] <samd> rww, alright, thanks, ill go with ext2 as i dont use windows
[04:53] <pentaside> I cant never get my wireless to work unless I run this script first.
[04:53] <nickrud> jon_, don't forget us, as you learn you can help the newer people
[04:53] <weternal> hello, I'm having trouble getting osx and 8.10 to play nice with each other, I installed 8.10, and when I restarted it skipped past the grub boot loading screen
[04:53] <weternal> right to OSX
[04:53] <stan> CountryTrouserTr, what flash player are u using/.
[04:53] <maco> pentaside: you can put it in /etc/rcS.d/
[04:53] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: I'm using flash 10, nonfree version
[04:53] <BobPenguin> thanks for the info maco
[04:53] <adam7> CountryTrouserTr / deadamerican : what architecture are you using?
[04:54] <CountryTrouserTr> adam7: 32, 64 wouldn't install
[04:54] <deadamerican> adam7: does it with both 32 and 64 for me
[04:54] <jon_> thank nick, although I've been happy with ubuntu since installation, my familiarity with it is still on the level of "tourist with phrasebook." all the same, it seems like a good way to volunteer help.
[04:54] <maco> pentaside: look how files are named in there. the S is for starting things (so starting the script) and the number tells what order to do it
[04:54] <pentaside> What kind of file should it be?
[04:54] <pentaside> Ok.
[04:54] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: i'll probably hadly use this kernel if that's true. plus the fact that that the stock kernel is what's really made to use with the system, and i like having my fglrx driver installed. although the next version of it will probably be made to work with 2.6.28
[04:54] <onetinsoldier> hardly*
[04:54] <weternal> does anyone know how to get the grub loader to play nicely with OSX
[04:54] <weternal> I don't have to install boot camp do I?
[04:55] <Jerome_> fallout.org
[04:55] <nickrud> maco, not a good idea. It should be put into /etc/init.d, and linked into rcS.d, somewhere after S90
[04:55] <stan> CountryTrouserTr, have you tried libflash-mozplayer?
[04:55] <maco> nickrud: :( that requires explaining symlinks
[04:55] <Hilikus> is it possible to "blank" a dvd-r? just so that the data thatst there gets ignored and the disk looks blank but with less space
[04:55] <stan> Hilikus, with a sharpie
[04:55] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: yes
[04:55] <Hilikus> a sharpie??
[04:55] <nickrud> maco, probably he could just put the contents of the script into /etc/rc.local and be better off then
[04:55] <geeksquad> guys i have a dell xps and the keyboard,touchpad,fingerprinter,and webcam do not work. help me!
[04:55] <deadamerican> adam7: but i guess its a nvidia issue, passing most options in xconfig seem to have no effect, except nologo
[04:55] <stan> use a sharpie and color over the data :)
[04:56] <rww> Hilikus: No. DVD-Rs are write *once* media.
[04:56] <maco> pentaside: do what nickrud just said
[04:56] <stan> geeksquad, seriously?  call your office
[04:56] <geeksquad> what do you mean
[04:56] <stan> I mean call work
[04:56] <geeksquad> its my computer
[04:56] <stan> and ask them
[04:56] <adam7> geeksquad: how did you install ubuntu if none of it works?
[04:56] <rww> geeksquad: stan's making a lame joke based on your name being the same as that of Best Buy's tech support people
[04:56] <pentaside> Well maybe this isn't what I want to do.  All I know is that I got my wireless working by following some instructions online.  The last instructions were make install, make unload, make load.  And unless I run that each time I startup, my wireless doesn't work.
[04:56] <maco> adam7: good question
[04:57] <adam7> maco: I have this idea it may not be Ubuntu that doesn't work ;)
[04:57] <maco> pentaside: wait what? you shouldnt have to reinstall the driver every boot!
[04:57] <maco> pentaside: what's the name of the wireless module you compiled?
[04:57] <pentaside> I don't know... Can I post a link to show you the instructions I followed?
[04:57] <maco> pentaside: yes please
[04:58] <deadamerican> adam7: see what i wrote?
[04:58] <woody86> Can someone help me out? in the terminal  /sbin/iwconfig doesn't show any wireless networks?
[04:58] <deadamerican> woody86: you have a wireless card?
[04:58] <adam7> deadamerican: yeah, and I don't have any suggestions
[04:58] <pentaside> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022462
[04:58] <woody86> deadamerican, I'm connected to my wireless network right now :)
[04:58] <deadamerican> woody86: doing lspci seem to list it?....or lsusb?
[04:59] <CountryTrouserTr> adam7: most here don' t when it comes to this issue.
[04:59] <deadamerican> wtf am i doing
[04:59] <stan> CountryTrouserTr, does your CPU max out while you play the video?
[04:59] <gizmo_> WARNING ! Move the file salt.h from the shell to a safe place<--anyone know how to remove this?
[04:59] <CountryTrouserTr> stan; i have no idea..
[04:59] <stan> CountryTrouserTr, open a video.. open a termina.. type TOP
[04:59] <adam7> CountryTrouserTr: well, it's a little vague: flash is really choppy. there isn't much detail... it's kind of like saying my computer doesn't work :/
[04:59] <stan> and see whats at the top
[04:59] <woody86> deadamerican, yup it's on lspci
[04:59] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: k
[04:59] <rww> gizmo_: http://www.psybnc.at/faq.html#q18
[05:00] <maco> pentaside: looking
[05:00] <eric> are you ok?
[05:00] <adam7> CountryTrouserTr: it seems to be a flash player problem
[05:00] <adam7> CountryTrouserTr: see if you can install flash player 10
[05:00] <stan> adam7 he has flash10
[05:00] <deadamerican> woody86: needing ndiswrapper?
[05:00] <stan> and libflash
[05:00] <geeksquad> what happened is that i bought the xps with ubuntu 8.04 and dells restore tool which is junk so i got my 8.10 cd out and installed ubuntu but the touchpad gave me problems and just now i found the same problem with the keyboard so what do i do
[05:00] <CountryTrouserTr> adam7: I already told u have I have flash 10
[05:00] <adam7> stan: I missed that, sorry
[05:00] <deadamerican> woody86: i guess i should have asked what wireless card first :)
[05:00] <stan> Adam7, and he has a quad amd something with an nvidia nice video card
[05:01] <Guest39228> Mplayer doesn't play movie very well, can someone help me?
[05:01] <woody86> deadamerican, I don't know, Ubuntu had installed the driver through 'Hardware Drivers'
[05:01] <stan> Guest39228, what does that mean?
[05:01] <adam7> CountryTrouserTr: well, in that case, try flash 9
[05:01] <ra> So
[05:01] <adam7> CountryTrouserTr: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=756239
[05:01] <ra> I want to mount and ISO
[05:01] <ra> an*
[05:01] <geeksquad> guys so who can fix my last 2 posts
[05:01] <ra> Followed these steps
[05:01] <ra> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html
[05:01] <pikario> whenever i play a video in totem or vlc, the video goes black whenever i move the window, skip in the video, or even open a menu
[05:01] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: 12 cpu percent used
[05:02] <ra> and it doesn't work
[05:02] <woody86> deadamerican, Broadcom BCM 4311
[05:02] <deadamerican> woody86: ifconfig up
[05:02] <deadamerican> woody86: that do anything?
[05:02] <adam7> geeksquad: how does the keyboard "not work"?
[05:02] <ubd> hello i am using a pentium m 1.6 laptop. with 750 mb ram. the pc is pretty slow. i believe it is because of the hard disk. but it may be ram or cpu of course how can i learn what is slowing the pc.
[05:02] <rww> !iso | ra
[05:02] <ra> I get a amibuous error Can not mount
[05:02] <woody86> deadamerican, up: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[05:02] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: get my last msg?
[05:02] <adam7> ra: did you do -o loop?
[05:03] <stan> CountryTrouserTr, yea.. did you see adam7s msg?
[05:03] <geeksquad> like i press a key and it types it 300 times it happens only somtimes mainly on pidgen
[05:03] <white-sheep> geeksquad: You bought Dell XPS fscking what?  That's still ambiguous.   What model?  Thanks. :O
[05:03] <stan> CountryTrouserTr, its a flash player/amd issue :(
[05:03] <ra> by mount point is that a drive
[05:03] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: should I use flash 9?
[05:03] <exodus_MS> ubd, type 'top' into terminal
[05:03] <D32> shoeunited: didn't work :/
[05:03] <ra> like /sda1
[05:03] <deadamerican> woody86: incorrect firmware loaded i guess, might want to try using ndiswrapper and the widows driver
[05:03] <trey_> Anyone know of a good quicksilver alternative? I'm just mainly wanting one to launch programs.
[05:03] <shoeunited> :o
[05:03] <shoeunited> :S
[05:03] <geeksquad> the m1530
[05:03] <rww> trey_: gnome-do
[05:03] <deadamerican> woody86: otherwise you fighting a loosing battle my friend
[05:03] <stan> CountryTrouserTr, the new intel i7 cpus are nice :)
[05:03] <tensei> is there anyway to configure what grub boot options are?  I have 3 linux kernals and 3 recovery modes,.. i don't want all three, I just need one
[05:03] <CountryTrouserTr> stan:  so to uninstall this flash10 is it sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[05:04] <exodus_MS> !grub
[05:04] <adam7> woody86: what wireless card and what drivers?
[05:04] <white-sheep> geeksquad: The mouse start flying and shit everywhere when you move around on the touchpad? >_>
[05:04] <ubd> i did exodus_MS
[05:04] <dgarr> ra mount point is an empty directory so you can sudo mkdir /tmp/tst
[05:04] <geeksquad> yes
[05:04] <woody86> deadamerican, haha, ok thx. Know where I can get the windows driver offhand?
[05:04] <Dante123> hi all, I used to run teamspeak and call of duty 2 at the same time with no problems....that is when I ran the command "aoss Teamspeak".  Now since I upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10....I can only have sound for one app at a time.  Any suggestions?
[05:04] <nickrud> tensei, you can use synaptic to remove any kernels you don't need; you should keep 2
[05:04] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: I only make about mm 5k a month I'm broke
[05:04] <deadamerican> woody86: honestly no i dont sorry
[05:04] <white-sheep> geeksquad: I do have M1530 -- Hold on.
[05:04] <stan> CountryTrouserTr, 5k/m?
[05:04] <geeksquad> yay
[05:04] <CountryTrouserTr> yeah I have bills ya know
[05:04] <ra> Ok, I will try that.  Also, Why is a cd image over 700mbs
[05:04] <pentaside> maco: Still looking?
[05:05] <adam7> ra: is it a DVD image?
[05:05] <bert1> how can i make firefox remember a reasonable screen size to attain when unmaximized? currently, unmaximizing it makes it about 2% (like 50 pixels) smaller than fully maximized. also, can i do it without erasing all my bookmarks and whatnot?
[05:05] <ra> It is 711, no it came from a cd
[05:05] <maco> pentaside: whats the wireless card you're having trouble with? and why not try installing linux-backports-modules if you need an updated compat-wireless?
[05:05] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: anyways is that command right to uninstall flash 10
[05:05] <maco> pentaside: yeah it was taking forever to load
[05:05] <deadamerican> wtf am i doing here anyways? i hate linux!!!!!
[05:05] <weternal> hey what's the package for customizing compiz called?
[05:05] <tensei> nickrud: why do I have more than one? is it all the same linux, where in synaptic can I find them?
[05:05] <rww> !ccsm | weternal
[05:05] <stan> CountryTrouserTr, sudo dpkg -r flashplugin-nonfree
[05:05] <ra> adam7: I was thinking maybe it would fit or work out with finalization, but it didn't work
[05:05] <white-sheep> geeksquad: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:06] <geeksquad> and then
[05:06] <maco> geeksquad: he means gksudo gedit
[05:06] <adam7> ra: where did you get this cd image?
[05:06] <D32> and my bandwidth is still throttled under ubuntu :/
[05:06] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: why not sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree the opposite of the installation
[05:06] <rww> !gksudo | white-sheep
[05:06] <ra> adam7: A cd?
[05:06] <pentaside> I'm using an Atheros, I'm not really sure of the exact model number.  And I'm not sure "why not" cause I'm a complete newb and have no idea what I'm doing.
[05:06] <maco> white-sheep: sudo is only for command line apps. graphical apps use gksudo
[05:06] <woody86> adam7, Broadcom 4311 card, and the Broadcom STA Driver in 'Hardware Drivers'
[05:06] <nickrud> tensei, you can use ctl-f and search for kernel-image . Ubuntu doesn't remove kernels that it upgrades, unlike nearly all other packages, Just In Case
[05:06] <ubd> how can i check if the hard drive performs well?
[05:06] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: also where can I get flash 9 at?
[05:06] <adam7> ra: where did you get what you tried to burn to the cd?
[05:06] <stan> CountryTrouserTr, there are always 5 ways to do things :)
[05:06] <stan> CountryTrouserTr, no idea.
[05:06] <exodus_MS> !hdd
[05:06] <jucaoma> nas
[05:06] <exodus_MS> !info
[05:06] <pentaside> Maco: What is linux-backports-modules?
[05:07] <maco> pentaside: heh i think the release notes for intrepid say to intall linux-backports-modules if your atheros wireless isn't supported by default. about half require it, and half require teh default one
[05:07] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: why uninstall it if I dont even know where to get flash9
[05:07] <exodus_MS> arrgh
[05:07] <tensei> nickrud: so how do I know which one is the most recent
[05:07] <white-sheep> Heh.
[05:07] <stan> CountryTrouserTr,  im humoring you -- but my amd 3500 plays videos fine w/ flash 10 :(
[05:07] <maco> pentaside: it's a package. you can find in system -> administration -> synaptic package manager
[05:07] <geeksquad> white-sheep:  menu.ist is open
[05:07] <nickrud> tensei, the higher the number, the later the release.
[05:07] <jucaoma> how i can save my config & installed programs? because i wanna install ubuntustudio
[05:07] <ubd> :D
[05:07] <pentaside> That sounds good... hang on...
[05:07] <white-sheep> geeksquad: Okay.  Close the menu.list
[05:07] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: humoring me?
[05:07] <stan> CountryTrouserTr, trying to help...
[05:07] <geeksquad> now what
[05:07] <ra> adam7: I have Final Fantasy 7 for PSX, just pulled it out the closet, I wanted to back it up.  So I looked online and made an ISO from the disc I own.
[05:07] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: what kind of video card
[05:08] <stan> CountryTrouserTr, 9600 GSO (8800GT?)
[05:08] <white-sheep> geeksquad: And start doing this -- ;o -- gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:08] <ra> adam7: Thing goes for 67 bucks on Amazon nowadays
[05:08] <pentaside> Maco: There are several listed... just all of them?
[05:08] <ubd> !i/o
[05:08] <bert1> how can i make firefox restore to its default size when unmaximized? currently it goes from full screen to just slightly less than full screen which is useless. i want to unmaximize it into a reasonable window size and have it remember that size. suggestions?
[05:08] <adam7> ra: are you sure it isn't a DVD?
[05:08] <nickrud> tensei, so 2.6.9.19 is later than 2.6.9.13 for example
[05:08] <geeksquad> i did do gksudo
[05:08] <stan> jucaoma, why not just install the apps you want from ubuntu studio?
[05:08] <maco> pentaside: install the one that's just l-b-m with no numbers
[05:08] <white-sheep> geeksquad: Good -- Now run a find function -- Look for defoption
[05:08] <geeksquad> its open again
[05:08] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: how do you disable hardware decoding for flash10 in linux
[05:09] <stan> CountryTrouserTr, i would have to google it?
[05:09] <maco> pentaside: itll always pull the right one ith numbers every time you get a kernel update to keep your drivers updated
[05:09] <ra> adam7:  I would have said yes, but the other 2 disks are under 700mbs
[05:09] <trey_> anyone use fluxbox?
[05:09] <white-sheep> geeksquad: Do you see "# defoptions=quiet splash"
[05:09] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: ok then google it :))))
[05:09] <CountryTrouserTr> lol
[05:09] <maco> trey_: i have. what's the problem?
[05:09] <adam7> ra: i can make a dvd that is less than 700mb
[05:09] <pentaside> Maco: Beautiful.
[05:09] <jucaoma> stan, im a supernewbie in ubuntu, GNU and + i dont know how =(
[05:09] <adam7> ra: and what is a PSX?
[05:09] <stan> CountryTrouserTr, why dont you load up the vesa drivers.. disable 3 of your cores.. and see if it STILL skips.
[05:09] <geeksquad> yes
[05:09] <pentaside> Maco: We'll see what happens, just a seocnd.  And thanks in advance.
[05:09] <ra> adam7: Playstation One
[05:09] <adam7> ra: ah
[05:09] <trey_> maco: I was wanting to know how to set up keyboard shortcuts to move windows around
[05:10] <tensei> nickrud: I search for  kernel-image and nothing comes up
[05:10] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: I have a dual core, not quad cord
[05:10] <white-sheep> geeksquad: Add a boot parameter -- To this -- "# defoptions=quiet splash i8042.nomux=1"
[05:10] <CountryTrouserTr> core
[05:10] <ra> adam7: Not sure if we had Dvds back then.
[05:10] <nickrud> tensei, sorry, linux-image
[05:10] <pentaside> Maco:  Installed... reboot?
[05:10] <maco> trey_: oh. ok nevermind i cant help with that. the most configuration i've done is the menu. fluxbox's website should be able to tell you i think
[05:10] <jucaoma> Adam7, PSX == play station 1
[05:10] <maco> pentaside: yes
[05:10] <white-sheep> geeksquad: That'll fix your touchpad issue.
[05:10] <onetinsoldier> ra: hi, i have that version of final fantasy for the pc, ff7. i wonder what it goes for on e-bay, hehe.
[05:10] <pentaside> Maco: BRB.
[05:10] <adam7> ra: me neither :D
[05:10] <geeksquad> what will this do
[05:10] <nickrud> trey_, it's already set for keyboard movement: alt-f7 for move, alt-f8 for resize
[05:10] <white-sheep> Your mouse won't fly around and shit when you move your fingertip on the touchpad.
[05:10] <nickrud> trey_, oh, fluxbox. sorry
[05:10] <adam7> ra: did you dd it off the CD?
[05:10] <stan> CountryTrouserTr, i guess disabling 3 would be overkill.
[05:10] <white-sheep> @ geeksquad
[05:11] <ra> adam7: Yes
[05:11] <stan> CountryTrouserTr, boot w/ 1 cpu and 1gb ram, vesa or nv driver...
[05:11] <white-sheep> geeksquad: Close it and run this -- "sudo update-grub"
[05:11] <geeksquad> thanks now i reboot right
[05:11] <D32> onetinsoldier shoeunited goodnight :D
[05:11] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: but I dont have a quad core, I have a dual core.
[05:11] <bert1> how do i start firefox in safemode on ubuntu? like, in terminal... firefox safe-mode or something?
[05:11] <white-sheep> geeksquad: Then you pray.  Try and reboot. :o
[05:11] <maco> bert1: -safe-mode
[05:11] <D32> goodnight fellow comrades1
[05:11] <onetinsoldier> D32: ok, night man
[05:11] <geeksquad> thanks
[05:11] <tensei> nickrud: thanks!
[05:11] <onetinsoldier> D32: take care and see ya later :-)
[05:12] <magaio> Has anyone gotten the Intel P43 to work with ALSA yet?
[05:12] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: why are you humoring me still? Why would I want to disable my cores and ram, thats kinda wierd
[05:12] <stan> CountryTrouserTr, incase thats part of the issue?
[05:12] <adam7> ra: where did you see that the image is 711mb?
[05:12] <maco> magaio: #ubuntu-audio-help
[05:13] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: I dont think that is the issue
[05:13] <magaio> maco: thx
[05:13] <maco> magaio: i'll try to help you over there
[05:13] <stan> shrugs :)
[05:13] <CountryTrouserTr> adam7: where do u get flash 9 if u think that is the problem.
[05:13] <bert1> maco - thanks :)
[05:13] <CountryTrouserTr> stan: I didn't mean to sound rude bro, I just dont think that's the issue
[05:13] <adam7> CountryTrouserTr: I don't know -- Google probably does though :D
[05:13] <CountryTrouserTr> adam7: I have worn out my welcom with google.
[05:13] <stan> CountryTrouserTr, well .. one day.. when you feel bored.. boot with cpu=1 and maxram=1024 just for kicks
[05:13] <ra> adam7: nautilus, plus Brazero gives me an error, claiming there is not enough room on a 700mb cd
[05:14] <craigbass1976> nickrud, Something screwed up because I forgot php5 (I imagine) and removing/purging things fixer 'er up in good shape.
[05:14] <craigbass1976> In case you wondered
[05:14] <nickrud> craigbass1976, yeah, that purge/install cycle fixes an amaziing number of things
[05:14] <pentaside> Maco:  That didn't work either.
[05:14] <pentaside> I had to run those commands again.
[05:14] <ra> Maybe use something like NERO
[05:15] <adam7> ra: well, I don't know :/
[05:15] <craigbass1976> nickrud, I wonder...  does it work on wives and kids?
[05:15] <maco> pentaside: oh. hrm...
[05:15] <ra> adam7: Maybe use something like Nero, and that will say there isn't enough room, warn me, and let it burn
[05:15] <adam7> ra: you can try
[05:15] <nickrud> craigbass1976, virtual ones
[05:15] <Gnea> ra, adam7: k3b
[05:15] <adam7> ra: you could also use dd to truncate the end of the file
[05:15] <maco> pentaside: do you need to do all 3? just "make load" should be enough, i think...
[05:15]  * craigbass1976 wonders about co-workers...
[05:15] <pentaside> Yea... I thought about it, and thats all I did this time.
[05:16] <nickrud> pentaside, you could put the commands in /etc/rc.local (without sudo, since rc.local will run as root)
[05:16] <pentaside> Like I said, I'm new... so once I thought about it, I just ran make load.
[05:16] <ra> adam7,Gnea:  I know some file formats are just wrong, like a bin cue can say 711, but only be 690mbs.  K3b is awesome, but I use Gnome, tried KDE didnt like
[05:16] <pentaside> I tried, but it want let me save.  Says I dont have permission.
[05:16] <geeksquad> white-sheep:  it worked now how to fix the fingerpad and webcam
[05:16] <craigbass1976> ra, you can use K3b with gnome
[05:16] <uber_noober> anyone know if ext4 is going to be implemented in the next ubuntu incarnation?
[05:16] <geeksquad> *fingerprinter
[05:16] <Gnea> ra: it doesn't matter what you use, k3b will work with gnome
[05:16] <nickrud> pentaside, gksu gedit /etc/rc2.local   you need permission ;)
[05:16] <maco> pentaside: hey you're learning already ;)
[05:17] <adam7> ra: yo ucan install k3b with gnome (but it does install extra depends)
[05:17] <ra> craigbass1976,Gnea: Yeah, but I feel weird installing KDE libraries
[05:17] <maco> pentaside: well you can try putting "cd /home/pentaside/compat-wireless-2008-10-31
[05:17] <Gnea> ra: that's silly.
[05:17] <maco> pentaside: ack!
[05:17] <craigbass1976> ra, use cdrecord in the command line.  It's the backend to all of those anyway
[05:17] <keres> how do you open an executable from the terminal?
[05:17] <maco> pentaside: well you can try putting "cd /home/pentaside/compat-wireless-2008-10-31 && make load" into /etc/rc.local
[05:17] <craigbass1976> keres, vi?
[05:17] <maco> pentaside: change the /home.... stuff to match wherever your directory is
[05:17] <geeksquad> white-sheep:  r u there
[05:17] <white-sheep> geeksquad: What webcam issue?
[05:18] <adam7> Gnea: it's not that unusual to not want to install tons of extra libraries for one app
[05:18] <ra> craigbass1976:  Will give it a shot, can I do man cdrecord?
[05:18] <nickrud> craigbass1976, I think they use wodim now
[05:18] <geeksquad> the webcam wont work tell me what to do
[05:18] <white-sheep> geeksquad: sudo aptitude install cheese
[05:18] <craigbass1976> nickrud, What?  Criminy...
[05:18] <pentaside> brb... trying again.
[05:18] <craigbass1976> ra, I have a script I wrote.  I'l hunt a bit and post it somewhere
[05:18] <maco> ra: i think gnomebaker is a really nice gnome cd burner. though brasero (the default) is actually nice too
[05:18] <keres> craigbass1976: does not work
[05:19] <nickrud> craigbass1976, I'm way out of date, but it's probably because of the attitude of the cdrecord maintainer, he hated some of the changes to cd stuff in the kernel
[05:19] <ra> maco:  i can try gnome baker, brasero gave me an error
[05:19] <maco> nickrud: that's not why
[05:19] <maco> nickrud: that's a side-effect
[05:19] <craigbass1976> keres, a binary executable?
[05:19] <CountryTrouserTr> adam7: that link u sent me was dealing with flash9 issues not flash10 and go to flash 9 for help. Why send me to a flash 9 error page and tell me to get 9 if it has same probs
[05:19] <nickrud> maco, hehehe
[05:19] <maco> nickrud: the real reason is licensing that doesn't fit the DFSG
[05:19] <keres> craigbass1976: i don't know
[05:19] <ra> craigbass1976: awesome
[05:19] <adam7> CountryTrouserTr: that page said that one version of flash 9 didn't have that problem
[05:19] <craigbass1976> if you do a     head filename     is it all gobbly gook?
[05:19] <nickrud> maco, ah, out of date. But obstinate devs are annoyances anyway
[05:20] <geeksquad> white-sheep:  cheese won't work i dont see the output from the webcam
[05:20] <white-sheep> Did you run cheese?
[05:20] <geeksquad> yes
[05:20] <maco> nickrud: of course the dev tries to argue, against Debian *and* Sun, that the CDDL is GPL-compatible when it is not
[05:20] <white-sheep> geeksquad: Hmm.  Let me find you the link -- I have it somewhere.
[05:20] <geeksquad> link to whta
[05:21] <nickrud> maco, I'm remembering all the ugly text whenever I wanted to use anything other than scsi addressing. But that was a long time ago
[05:21] <keres> craigbass1976: i tried puting a symlink in for it, causes a segfault
[05:21] <maco> geeksquad: try a kamorama
[05:21] <maco> geeksquad: some webcams work with v4l v1, some with v4l v2, some with both
[05:21] <geeksquad> kamorama? where do i get it
[05:22] <white-sheep> geeksquad: http://jesperdj.pbwiki.com/Ubuntu-on-the-Dell-XPS-M1530
[05:22] <ra> maco: Gnomebaker trudged through the overburn. Awesome good Idea
[05:22] <maco> geeksquad: the repos
[05:22] <maco> ra: does that mean "it worked"?
[05:22] <geeksquad> thanks join  my channel #geektalk
[05:22] <keres> craigbass1976: nevermind, got it :)
[05:22] <ra> maco, adam7, cragbass1976:  Yeah, It burned perfectly with Gnomebaker
[05:23] <adam7> ra: well there you go :)
[05:23] <craigbass1976> ra http://rafb.net/p/KFa7BE35.html   I guess I didn't want myself to forget.  More notes in there than commands...
[05:23] <CountryTrouserTr> well im off thx for trying guys i'll be back to try to figure this out aanother day.. cyas
[05:24] <ra> craigbass1976: Thank you
[05:26] <craigbass1976> ra, no problem.  Enjoy.  You can also ssh into a coworkers box and just fly their tray out with cdrecord.    Very annoying...
[05:26] <ra> craigbass1976:  a true prankster =P
[05:26] <adam7> craigbass1976: you can do that with eject too ;)
[05:27] <craigbass1976> Never palyed with that, only noticed it with cdrecord.  Toodles everyone.
[05:29]  * nickrud considers banning craigbass for a bit :)
[05:29] <smokeymirror> is there a wine channel?
[05:30] <adam7> smokeymirror: #winehq ?
[05:30] <nickrud> smokeymirror, #winehq
[05:30] <ubuntustart> hi all
[05:30] <smokeymirror> ok thanks sorry :/
[05:30] <adam7> smokeymirror: no problem :)
[05:30] <carandraug> KillerOrca: you still there?
[05:30] <nickrud> smokeymirror, never apologize for good questions that we can actually answer ;)
[05:31] <mib_qsvzec> how do I install kqemu on ubuntu? module-assistant auto-install kqemu-source fails
[05:33] <ubuntustart> hi, someone could tell me how i boot the installation CD whit a parameter to fix the gnome resolution because even when i use safe graphics option if goes out of the monitor range
[05:33] <I3lade> Hello
[05:33] <ubuntustart> hi blade
[05:34] <edlang> Hi -- I'm having problems enabling SHM on Intrepid/amd64. I've followed the guide on the wiki (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig) but no luck. Does anyone have experience or a suggestion regarding this?
[05:34] <I3lade> I need some help my Xorg.conf, apparently mine's really screwed up, and I was told I could get a default one here?
[05:34] <I3lade> I've tried googling but I can't find anything
[05:34] <adam7> I3lade: what version of Ubuntu?
[05:34] <I3lade> Hardy Heron 8.04
[05:35] <lain_wired> Hullo, I've recently purchased a new subnotebook (eeePC 1000H) and I have installed ubuntu on it.
[05:35] <GodfatherofEire> Could osmebody help me out here? I need a program /programming language that can create a list of 10 elements from 24, have an ordered list (i.e. abc /= acb), and that certain elements cant be contiguous. Any suggestions?
[05:35] <lain_wired> I'd like to share the DVD drive on my main computer with my notebook.
[05:35] <adam7> GodfatherofEire: python?
[05:35] <nickrud> I3lade, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg will create a default xorg.conf
[05:35] <lain_wired> I'm not sure how to do this, but I have installed samba.
[05:36] <ubuntustart> hi, someone could tell me how i boot the installation CD whit a parameter to fix the gnome resolution because even when i use safe graphics option if goes out of the monitor range
[05:36] <adam7> GodfatherofEire: it can do everything easily except the "certain elements can't be contiguous" part
[05:36] <GodfatherofEire> adam7, every time I've used python and I set it to include abc and acb in a set, it reduces it to just abc, though, how would I go about getting it /not/ to do that?
[05:36] <adam7> GodfatherofEire: you need a list, ie, list('a', 'b', 'c')
[05:36] <trey_> well, I'm liking fluxbox a lot better than gnome on my laptop where I dont have a large resolution.
[05:37] <GodfatherofEire> adam7, can it remove lists that have certain elements from a sequence?
[05:37] <adam7> GodfatherofEire: this is the ubuntu support channel, you probably want to join #python
[05:37] <GodfatherofEire> adam7, thanks for the tip though
[05:37] <I3lade> ok, I just tried that command nickrud, and it just says overwritten, did it just default everything? Because supposedly I'm MISSING stuff from my Xorg.conf and that's why I needed to find a default.
[05:37] <ubuntustart> but im trying to install ubuntu ;D so it try to start gnome
[05:37] <adam7> GodfatherofEire: it can do anything you want as long as you know how to do it :)
[05:37] <trey_> anyone into kernel development?
[05:38] <nickrud> I3lade, ok, now you need to log out and back in for the new config to take effect. But some more detail about what you're doing will help also
[05:38] <rebel_kid> i need a linux msn messenger with video call support, anyone know of one?
[05:38] <adam7> rebel_kid: empathy might be able to
[05:38] <Lillymon> OK, sound is now working, but aRts has gone CRAZY. There's several dozen instances of it under htop, and it's gradually grinding my whole PC to a halt. How do I kill this damn thing?
[05:39] <nickrud> I3lade, and yes, it just reset everything to default, as ubuntu figures you need for your monitor and video card
[05:39] <GodfatherofEire> adam7, is the interpreter only able to be run from the terminal or is there another way?
[05:39] <adam7> GodfatherofEire: only terminal
[05:39] <Lillymon> I've got "/usr/bin/artsd" with some other stuff after the end listed over and over again. My system can't take this.
[05:39] <moDumass> hey all, um, i just installed 8.10 on my eee pc 900, skype sounds crackly - not little crackly, like i had to erase this sentance crackly, and i cant fix it
[05:39] <rebel_kid> Adam7, ty
[05:40] <adam7> GodfatherofEire: although if you're really bored you could write a GUI that can do it
[05:40] <moDumass> any ideas would be awesome
[05:40] <I3lade> nickrud I pulled the hard drive out of my old computer and put it in a new one so I could use the Graphics card on it, I was trying to figure out how to get the drivers and stuff, but when I did cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf, the readout was missing a bunch of stuff, and the guy helping me told me to go ask for a default xorg.conf file
[05:40] <nickrud> Lillymon, you should ask for detailed kde help in #kubuntu ; I think arts is replaced by pulseaudio in ubuntu
[05:40] <GodfatherofEire> adam7, haha, no, not that crazy, I just dont want to mess anything up, seeing as how it /is/ the terminal after all
[05:40] <I3lade> he said he'd give me his, but his was heavily edited for dual monitor support and stuff
[05:40] <nickrud> I3lade, ok. The new X dynamically determines a lot of stuff that used to be put into the xorg.conf explicitly. What video card?
[05:41] <I3lade> so I don't think defaulting what I already have would help...
[05:41] <I3lade> it's an ATI Radeon 7000
[05:41] <I3lade> but I also have a 7500 laying around that I might switch out later
[05:41] <adam7> GodfatherofEire: when you're in the python interpreter, you can't mess your system up easily accidentally
[05:41] <I3lade> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022552  <== that's my thread
[05:41] <adam7> GodfatherofEire: esp. if you're just using lists and such
[05:42] <I3lade> you can see my readout in post #9
[05:42] <GodfatherofEire> adam7, alright, I just get a little worried when I run other stuff in the terminal thats not initiated from one
[05:42] <racarter> mount -t smbfs -o username=user,password=pwd //winbox/share /mnt/share does not work for me
[05:43] <tensei> Can anyone tell me why if I have an USB external hardrive plugged in my ubuntu 8.04 doesn't boot up?  It gets to the loading bar screen and doesn't even start, just freezes, dosen't even load in recovery mode
[05:43] <nickrud> I3lade, iirc the ati driver that ubuntu uses provides good support for that card. What issue are you having? Not working, etc?
[05:44] <racarter> i need help mounting an smb share
[05:44] <I3lade> nickrud, I JUST put the hard drive into this new computer, and started it up, it started up saying that ubuntu needed to run in low graphics mode because it couldn't detect this and that
[05:44] <I3lade> I tried setting the monitor settings and stuff
[05:44] <I3lade> but I can't get anything to stick
[05:44] <ubuntustart> hi, please could tell me how i boot the installation CD whit a parameter to fix vga or the gnome resolution because even when i use safe graphics option if goes out of the monitor range
[05:45] <nickrud> I3lade, a sec
[05:45] <usser> tensei, i've seen that happen with certain usb sticks
[05:45] <I3lade> er, ok
[05:46] <tensei> usser: any solution do you recall?
[05:46] <racarter> isn't there an smbmount utility?
[05:46] <racarter> i don't seem to have that, apt-cache search smbmount doesn't yield any results either
[05:46] <I3lade> woah
[05:46] <usser> tensei, didnt figure it out apart from plugging it in after boot
[05:46] <I3lade> I just looked at my etc/x11/ directory, and there's a TON of xorg.conf's should i delete the extras?
[05:47] <racarter> ...
[05:47] <tensei> anyone else know of a fix?
[05:47] <nickrud> I3lade, could you put the contents of the low graphics version of /var/log/Xorg.0.log on http://paste.ubuntu.com ? And, only the xorg.conf is used, all the others are backups (one we created with the dpkg-reconfigure, for example)
[05:47] <tensei> usser: thank you
[05:47] <george2002> exit
[05:47] <I3lade> oh ok
[05:48] <jucaoma> nas
[05:48] <racarter> i need help mounting an smb share
[05:48] <jucaoma> anyone got problems with flashplayer?
[05:49] <I3lade> nickrud http://paste.ubuntu.com/93589/
[05:49] <rebel_kid> emesene, empathy and amsn do not support video calls, does any linux msn client support them?
[05:49] <I3lade> you can do video with amsn
[05:50] <rebel_kid> I3lade, yes but you cannot do calls
[05:50] <I3lade> oh
[05:51] <I3lade> nickrud does that log file update constantly?
[05:51] <I3lade> because if not, that might be data from my old computer
[05:52] <nickrud> I3lade, ok, you're using the xorg.conf.failsafe for some reason. do   dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-ati , you should get back one line. I'm interested in the first two letters, hopefully ii
[05:52] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[05:52] <nickrud> I3lade, that file is updated each time X is started
[05:52] <I3lade> nickrud sudo dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-ati?
[05:52] <edlang> further to my issue with SHMConfig, has anyone resolved https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/295236 ?
[05:52] <mib_qsvzec> I have a .vmdk with a windows xp image that I want to run on a remote server and remote desktop into it, it's taking me far too long, can someone help me get things up and running?
[05:52] <I3lade> or without the sudo?
[05:52] <maco> I3lade: no sudo
[05:52] <silv3r_m00n> i have download a rar file which is in many parts like this rar.001 rar.002
[05:52] <nickrud> i3d, no sudo needed
[05:52] <I3lade> ok
[05:52] <silv3r_m00n> how can i combine them and extract ?
[05:53] <Mayank> how do edit in menu.lst?
[05:53] <nickrud> maco, are you familiar with ati? I had one a long time ago, but use nvidia now
[05:53] <maco> edlang: what do you want to do that requires shmconfig?
[05:53] <koshari> Mayank gksudo gedit
[05:53] <maco> nickrud: uh, ive gotten a couple ati computers to jump...
[05:53] <Mayank> i mean /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro pci=routeirq, there is line like this
[05:53] <joljam> firefox very slow on intrepid ... someone help me
[05:53] <nickrud> maco, he has an old ati card, the 7000, I would expect ubuntu to simply use the open radeon driver
[05:53] <Mayank> what is original?
[05:54] <Mayank> in this line?
[05:54] <I3lade> nickrud I got back a couple of lines
[05:54] <maco> nickrud: right...what's it doing instead?
[05:54] <edlang> maco: Disable my synaptics touchpad.
[05:54] <I3lade> just paste them here?
[05:54] <maco> I3lade: the first few tell you how to read it. whats the last say
[05:54] <nickrud> maco, vesa driver.
[05:54] <maco> nickrud: ew
[05:54] <maco> edlang: are you on 804 or 810?
[05:54] <I3lade> the last line?
[05:54] <I3lade> ii  xserver-xorg-v 1:6.8.0-1      X.Org X server -- ATI display driver
[05:54] <naynay> hey, has anyone ever seen a Ubuntu Lappy install that you have to hold a button on the keyboard to boot?
[05:54] <edlang> maco: 8.10, amd64
[05:54] <nickrud> maco, http://paste.ubuntu.com/93589/
[05:55] <maco> naynay: maybe on a mac...
[05:55] <shiMMer> i press on my bluetooth button.i can see blue LED colour.but i cant see bluetooth icon on my panel..how to fix my problem??please help..
[05:55] <Mayank> can anyone pase his menu.lst in pastebinit, i want to see something...plz?
[05:55] <naynay> maco: Its an HP x86-64
[05:55] <naynay> but its a 32bit Ubuntu install.
[05:55] <koshari> shiMMer what does dmesg show?
[05:55] <annihilus> hey everyone, wondering if anyone knows why when watching youtube vids i sometimes lose sound in flash, so far restart is my only fix
[05:55] <maco> edlang: system -> preferences -> mouse -> Touchpad. uncheck "enable touchpad"
[05:56] <racarter> where is smbmount on ubuntu 8.10?
[05:56] <Mayank> can anyone pase his menu.lst in pastebinit, i want to see something...plz?
[05:56] <edlang> maco: I don't see that section in the mouse config.
[05:56] <I3lade> nickrud so?
[05:56] <nickrud> I3lade, looking for similar issues
[05:56] <shiMMer> what is"dmesg"???
[05:56] <maco> edlang: most everything shmconfig was useful for has been re-implemented in a way that doesn't require enabling shmconfig, because shmconfig is essentially nothing more than a security hole
[05:56] <maco> edlang: you don't?
[05:56] <I3lade> I'm not even entirely sure what the issue IS!
[05:56] <maco> edlang: there's no 3rd tab?
[05:56] <I3lade> I just know there's something wrong
[05:57] <maco> shiMMer: a command. you put it in the terminal and hit enter
[05:57] <I3lade> especially since I'm stuck using 800 x 600 resolution, it's killing my eyes...
[05:57] <dgarr> Mayank: original line: kernel ﻿/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro pci=routeirq
[05:57] <edlang> maco: http://edlang.org/images/no-touchpad-config.jpg
[05:57] <Slack_> can someone give me a hand with an audio problem, #alsa is dead atm
[05:58] <maco> Slack_: download http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh, run it, and go to #ubutu-audio-help with the link it gives you
[05:58] <nickrud> I3lade, most common error is mis reading of monitor specs, but the log file seems to find them fine
[05:58] <maco> edlang: weird...are you sure you have a synaptics touchpad not an alps?
[05:58] <I3lade> nickrud, here's what the guy helping me earlier said: your real problem is the xorg file being incomplete, the reconfigure command you ran before shouldve straightened it out but for some reason it didn't. You need someone to give you a working xorg.conf to replace your with.
[05:58] <edlang> maco: http://paste.ubuntu.com/93595/
[05:58] <I3lade> then he told me how to go in and set my driver
[05:59] <shiMMer> i got this=http://paste.ubuntu.com/93594/
[05:59] <I3lade> also
[05:59] <I3lade> I'm missing system->preferences->Hardware Information
[05:59] <nickrud> I3lade, for older versions of X he would be correct. Could be that that particular card has issues. Put your current one up on pastebin
[05:59] <edlang> maco: and http://paste.ubuntu.com/93596/
[05:59] <I3lade> my current xorg.conf?
[05:59] <nickrud> I3lade, yes
[05:59] <I3lade> k
[05:59] <koshari> shiMMer it would appear the bt hardware is being detected.
[06:00] <I3lade> nickrud http://paste.ubuntu.com/93597/
[06:00] <shiMMer> i cant see the bluetooth icon on my panel
[06:00] <I3lade> nickrud maybe it's just me, but my xorg.conf seems a little funny...
[06:00] <I3lade> I feel like it should be longer...
[06:01] <I3lade> but I don't know what it looked like to begin with
[06:01] <I3lade> so I don't know...
[06:01] <nickrud> I3lade, mine looks just like that with the addition of nvidia under device. One sec
[06:01] <edlang> maco: any thoughts?
[06:01] <I3lade> I installed both the opensource and fgtl or whatever drivers
[06:02] <Son_of_Demetrius> Hello:
[06:02] <Son_of_Demetrius> I'm jumpin' in at the deep end here...how can I install drivers within the Terminal with the sudo apt-get command?
[06:02] <pikario> hi, how do i install a ubuntu patch ?
[06:02] <racarter> argh!
[06:02] <silv3r_m00n> how can i extract from a rar file which is in parts like 001 002 003
[06:03] <racarter> sudo apt-get install smbfs && sudo mount -t smbfs //winbox/share /mnt/winshare -o username=u,password=p
[06:03] <koshari> pikario you generally need to patch the source and recompile, do you have a specific example?
[06:03] <racarter> mount error: could not find target server. TCP name winbox/share not found.
[06:03] <pixelfairy> Son_of_Demetrius: sudo apt-get install name_of_driver_pakage
[06:03] <I3lade> nickrud, I can't change my screen resolution or anything, so something's still wrong...
[06:03] <maco> edlang: you know, you could just disable in the fdi file instead of using shmconfig
[06:03] <buttercups> silv3r_m00n, install unrar, right click any of the files and extract
[06:03] <I3lade> I havn't restarted xorg yet, but I havn't edited anything, so it shouldn't matter right?
[06:04] <koshari> Son_of_Demetrius drivers will geenrally be in the form of modules
[06:04] <racarter> is smbmount still used on ubuntu 8.10
[06:04] <Son_of_Demetrius> I'm a real dummie...I don't know the name of the package:(
[06:04] <pikario> i'm trying to install a patch to this bug:
[06:04] <pikario> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez-gnome/+bug/297819
[06:04] <racarter> am i being purposely ignored?
[06:04] <nickrud> I3lade, http://paste.ubuntu.com/93598/ you'll see some edits under driver and monitor. The monitor refresh rates I got from the Xorg.0.log file, you should verify them
[06:04] <supertanker> ssh-vulnkey just told me my main key is comprimised.
[06:04] <supertanker> What should I do?
[06:04] <supertanker> (I can't seem to get Apt to get the latest packagelists to update SSH)
[06:04] <pixelfairy> Son_of_Demetrius: you could google or use apt-cache search, why dont you just use the hardware manager?
[06:04] <maco> edlang: ok, so see http://jann.is/daily/archives/823-Kubuntu-8.10-beta-KDE-4.1-synaptics-TouchPad-problem.html and then um, lemme look up docs for that driver
[06:04] <edlang> maco: But given that I'm unable to enable SHMConfig, is it likely that the fdi file will match the driver?
[06:04] <nickrud> racarter, probably not, I just now saw anything from you :)
[06:04] <starfone> i've been having some usb memory stick problems since i've upped to 8.10. massive dmesg output of usb problems.
[06:05] <bashca> any 1 can help me please ??
[06:05] <I3lade> er
[06:05] <racarter> is smbmount still used on ubuntu 8.10
[06:05] <I3lade> nickrud how do I verify the refresh rates?
[06:05] <nickrud> racarter, the command is in the smbfs package
[06:05] <racarter> sudo apt-get install smbfs && sudo mount -t smbfs //winbox/share /mnt/winshare -o username=u,password=p
[06:05] <I3lade> I definately DONT want to mess those up, I've done it before and set it out the range of my monitor, I couldn't see anything...
[06:05] <racarter> mount error: could not find target server. TCP name winbox/share not found.
[06:05] <nickrud> I3lade, from your monitor manual, the info on the back, or by looking up the specs on the manufacturer's web site
[06:05] <racarter> nickrud, what is the command to mount an smb drive now?
[06:06] <nickrud> racarter, try using the ip address
[06:06] <shiMMer> how can i run kismet on ubuntu 8.10???i already donwload it from repos..it not working??can any1 fix this??
[06:06] <I3lade> I have no idea where the manual is, and I don't know the exact model of my monitor
[06:06] <I3lade> I know it's a Korean Data Systems Xtreme Flat
[06:06] <nickrud> racarter, I don't use smb from linux here, I'm no expert
[06:06] <starfone> http://pastebin.com/m7abd11b3 if anyone has an idea. i'm thinking usb drivers?
[06:06] <Son_of_Demetrius> @pixelfairy...I've no idea what you mean...I just installed Ubuntu over XP last night and i'VE NO CLUE HOW TO INSTALL MY DRIVRES :(
[06:06] <nickrud> I3lade, the exact model should be on the back somewhere. you can also look up the fcc id
[06:06] <woli> which is the ldap address book?
[06:06] <I3lade> crap... well, I'll try turning it around
[06:07] <Son_of_Demetrius> sorry I punched the capslock button by mistake
[06:07] <racarter> the ip address is not reasonable as it is a dynamic ip
[06:07] <maco> edlang: you should be able to use TouchpadOff with type Integer and value 1 to disable it
[06:07] <koshari> Son_of_Demetrius which drivers are you installing?
[06:07] <maco> edlang: if you just want to turn of tapping and scrolling use 2. the manpage is "man synaptics"
[06:08] <nickrud> racarter, I'm no expert, like I said. I use the places->network in gnome whenever I hook up my laptop to the office net ;)
[06:08] <Son_of_Demetrius> I have a bunch of nvidea chipset drivers that came with my dinosaur mb lol :(
[06:08] <maco> edlang: and that manpage wouldve been helpful when i was working on gsynaptics -_-
[06:08] <shiMMer> where the best place to download ubuntu 8.10 login window??
[06:08] <racarter> yeah, but for some reason the share requires a password, so using gnome it does not seem to be able to access any files
[06:08] <edlang> maco: so uh... is this stuff case senstive?
[06:08] <racarter> and it never seems to ask me for a username or password
[06:08] <maco> edlang: most probably
[06:08] <racarter> it just doesn't show anything
[06:08] <hacksins> why Qt4 don't wanna run on C::B
[06:09] <racarter> it shows the computer, but not any shares
[06:09] <Son_of_Demetrius> I read on a forum somewhere that I might need to update a kernel?
[06:09] <nickrud> woli, an ldap addressbook is an address book maintained on some central server somewhere
[06:09] <woli> nickrud, ahh
[06:09] <sfer2> Son_of_Demetrius: Why?
[06:09] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: if you go to system -> administartion -> hardware drivers, does it tell you anything?
[06:09] <racarter> nickrud, is there a way to force gnome to request a password or something?
[06:10] <I3lade> ok
[06:10] <maco> racarter: you have to try to access a file inside the share before you're prompted, i think
[06:10] <koshari> Son_of_Demetrius just use the restricted driver manager, system > admin >hardware
[06:10] <I3lade> everythings right
[06:10] <dickinch15>  Christmas Party At CTU   <http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&amp;friendID=179007038&amp;albumId=1777114>
[06:10] <nickrud> racarter, not that I know of. Our storage device doesn't require one, I set it up that way. I'm brain dead, and my co workers even more so
[06:10] <Son_of_Demetrius> It tells me that 'No Proprietary Drivers Are Found'...or something like that
[06:10] <racarter> maco, it does not show any files to speak of
[06:10] <I3lade> nickrud so I just paste your edited xorg.conf where mine is?
[06:10] <maco> dickinch15: please don't spam.
[06:10] <dickinch15> naw my bad
[06:10] <edlang> maco: and I also need to restart my computer every time I edit a HAL policy file?
[06:10] <maco> dickinch15: and could you get a nick that doesn't violate channel rules reguarding language?
[06:10] <nickrud> I3lade, you could do that, yes. but I remind you about the refreshes, I take no responsibility
[06:11] <maco> edlang: or restart hald
[06:11] <koshari> Son_of_Demetrius what nvideia chipset atre you using?
[06:11] <I3lade> nickrud I just checked them
[06:11] <I3lade> they're right
[06:11] <hashbrowns> does anyone know how to increase the amount of space wubi will use beyond 30GB?
[06:11] <dickinch15> maco man i use this name since 3 months ago why should i change it now?
[06:12] <I3lade> nickrud, whish me luck, I'm gonna restart
[06:12] <nickrud> !wubi | hashbrowns (best place to ask for wubi help)
[06:12] <maco> dickinch15: because in #ubuntu* channels we have rules regarding inappropriate language
[06:12] <nickrud> I3lade, I certainly am. I hate X now, I used to understand it well
[06:12] <Son_of_Demetrius> Here's my dilemma....I'm not online on my Ubuntu system...duh!...but it's not my fault...my nvidea drivers? I need to go and lokk...brb
[06:12] <hashbrowns> nickrud: is there no IRC support?
[06:13] <dickinch15> maco the subject is about ubuntu not my screen name so you might be in the wrong room
[06:13] <nickrud> dickinch15, yes, you will have to change your nick
[06:13] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: ah! ok you need to be onlin to get stuff from teh driver manager. can you get the computer online, even temporarily?
[06:13] <edlang> maco: going back a bit, any idea why the touchpad section doesn't exist in my mouse config?
[06:13] <nickrud> dickinch15, you can discuss it in #ubuntu-ops if you like
[06:13] <edlang> maco: I've got a t61 next to my desktop, it has the correct menu...
[06:13] <mib_xzjnxkms> hi everyone, can someone help me diagnose my webcam problem?
[06:13] <maco> edlang: see, i *think* it exists in 8.10, but i cant quite remember and i'm on 9.04, so i cant be positive
[06:14] <edlang> 9.04 eh
[06:14] <dickinch15> nickrud i aint discussing nothing im keeping my name you can go to ops and discuss
[06:14] <edlang> that's the j-one?
[06:14] <I3lade> nickrud, er, it didn't change anything...
[06:14] <I3lade> I still can't change my resolution
[06:14] <maco> dickinch15: uh, i think nickrud is an op, so you might want to listen to him
[06:14] <unr3a1> edlang: do you know when 9.04 is set to release?
[06:14] <maco> dickinch15: if you want to stay in any ubuntu channels
[06:14] <woli> i don't have bluetooth, but I am buying a computer which has it. Will I be able to send documments to other people via bluetooth with the "Sent to..." context menu on nautilus?
[06:14] <nickrud> I3lade, then I'm not sure why it's not setting up correctly. Should be automatic
[06:14] <bashca> i did by mistake usermod -G10 bashca ...... and  when i reboot my system i couldn't open users"&groups manager ?? i got this msg You are not allowed to access the system configuration.
[06:14] <maco> unr3a1: 9.04 implies 2009, month 4
[06:14] <I3lade> and it's still saying that I don't have any drivers...
[06:14] <mib_xzjnxkms> dickinch15: don't be that asshole
[06:14] <unr3a1> maco, thank you
[06:15] <maco> mib_xzjnxkms: language
[06:15] <Son_of_Demetrius> Shoot!!  I can't eject my CDROM...Ubuntu is telling me that I can't 'Unmount Volume..Whoaa!...what's happening?
[06:15] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: is the cd drive in use?
[06:15] <Son_of_Demetrius> No
[06:15] <nickrud> I3lade, you have a driver, the xserver-xorg-driver-ati. system->admin->hardware drivers should show no driver, since the card is so old and the current fglrx doesn't support that one anymore
[06:15] <I3lade> ok
[06:15] <eeboy> I find plenty of info about mounting windows shares and ext3 partitions on the same machine... but how do I mount an ext3 partition on my local network?
[06:16] <I3lade> well, I still can't change my resolution and stuff though
[06:16] <unr3a1> hey maco, do you know what would cause one's shutdown menu to not work?
[06:16] <Slart> eeboy: I don't think mounting ext3 over network is possible.. I would say most of the time when people need to do that they use nfs
[06:16] <Son_of_Demetrius> I have another comp with Ubuntu installed in another room..I'm using it as a test to see if I want to switch over completely from Windows...but so far it has been a nightmare
[06:16] <maco> unr3a1: does it not work or does it hang for a minute or two after you hit the button before the menu window thing appears?
[06:16] <mib_xzjnxkms> my laptop webcam output turns off less than a second after i turn it on, can anyone help
[06:17] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: works better if you've got it online so you can install drivers
[06:17] <I3lade> system->preferences/screen resolution dosn't let me change anything, 'cept the resolution to 640 x 480, I know it can do more than that
[06:17] <Slart> eeboy: just like you can't mount ntfs over the network
[06:17] <unr3a1> maco, the menu appears.  what happens is that when I select shutdown or restart, it only logs me off.
[06:17] <maco> I3lade: but that driver might not be able to
[06:17] <unr3a1> maco: I have to use init commands to restart or shutdown.
[06:17] <maco> unr3a1: cant even use "sudo reboot" or "sudo halt"?
[06:17] <Son_of_Demetrius> I guess...well..therein lies my dilemma huh?
[06:17] <Slart> !nfs | eeboy
[06:18] <eeboy> Slart: I mount my NTFS windows share over the network using smbfs
[06:18] <unr3a1> maco: I actually haven't tried those.
[06:18] <I3lade> maco, well what the crap? it's not THAT old, they had 1024 x 768 back in 2001
[06:18] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: are you able to just switch the network cable to the othr computer?
[06:18] <eeboy> Slart: Thanks... I'll research NFS
[06:18] <Slart> eeboy: yes.. and you can mount ext3 drives over the network using samba too
[06:18] <Son_of_Demetrius> You mean I can't install Third Party Software without downloading stuff?
[06:18] <unr3a1> maco: I come from Slackware background, so I am used to init commands.  lol
[06:18] <Slart> eeboy: but it still shows up as cifs at the client
[06:18] <Slart> eeboy: ie you're mounting a samba share.. not a ntfs-drive
[06:19] <maco> I3lade: well -vesa is crap. you should be able to use -ati, but i can tll you i have a card that only does 800x600 with -ati because the card itself doesnt do the 1024x768. it only does 800x600 and ati did the 1024x768 in software. however, ati no longer supports my ati card or yours, so you're stuck iwth crappy drivers
[06:19] <nate_> hi
[06:19] <eeboy> Slart: Thanks... that's what I needed... just a nudge in the right direction
[06:19] <nate_> hello?
[06:19] <mib_xzjnxkms> Son_of_Demetrius: what exactly are you trying to do?
[06:19] <Slart> eeboy: you're welcome
[06:19] <mib_xzjnxkms> nate_: hey
[06:19] <unr3a1> Son_of_Demetrius: its not that you can't install third party software without downloading stuff, its just that there have been numerous updates for ubuntu, that you dont get when you download the ISO.
[06:19] <Phill> I've recently got a new Widescreen LCD monitor that can most definitely support more than 640x480, my xorg.conf file just doesn't seem to stick the resolutions in. What am I missing? And my old monitor could operate at 1024*768. So; any ideas? I have an Nvidea Geforce 4, and a Westinghouse 21.something inch Widescreen.
[06:19] <nate_> i am trying to talk to somebody
[06:20] <I3lade> maco, I find it hard to believe that WITH a graphics card I'm stuck with a lower resolution than I am with ONBOARD graphics on my other computer
[06:20] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: well you can sneakernet it, i guess...download here, put it on a disk, and walk back and forth
[06:20] <I3lade> the innards of both of them are the same age
[06:20] <Son_of_Demetrius> I'm trying to use a command in the Terminal to get Ubuntu to unwrap a driver disk...
[06:20] <Slart> eeboy: there are factoids for both !samba and !nfs if you want more info
[06:20] <unr3a1> Son_of_Demetrius: and you need those updates before ubuntu will allow apt-get to work
[06:20] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: manual dependency resolution is a pain though
[06:20] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: driver disk?
[06:20] <nickrud> I3lade, try the 7500
[06:20] <I3lade> alright
[06:20] <maco> I3lade: intel's onboard graphics rock hardcore :P
[06:20] <Doonz> Is it hard to set up on my ubuntu box to be a router/firewall/dhcp server?
[06:20] <I3lade> I'll be back in a little bit...
[06:21] <Son_of_Demetrius> As I said...like..I'm a pre-school dummie in Ubuntuland lol
[06:21] <nickrud> I3lade, I may not be active, it's getting late ;)
[06:21] <nate_> haha good one
[06:21] <unr3a1> maco:  have you heard of any other issues similar to mine with the shutdown menu?
[06:21] <mib_xzjnxkms> Son_of_Demetrius: I am not sure what unwrapping a driver disk even means, lol
[06:21] <Son_of_Demetrius> I'm just trying to figure stuff out here
[06:21] <nate_> wee
[06:21] <nate_> wee
[06:21] <nate_> wee
[06:21] <FloodBot1> nate_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:22] <nate_> thank you that was my little brother
[06:22] <unr3a1> Son_of_Demetrius:  https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/newtoubuntu/C/index.html
[06:22] <nate_> he has downs syndrome
[06:22] <obiwan177> hey
[06:22] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: ok so real quick tutorial: in ubuntu, software usually comes from the repositories, which are servers full of 3rd party software that has been checked to be you know, not malware.  we have nice easy interfaces, like Synaptic or Add/Remove that download the software and its dependencies and install it all for you with all you have to do is click a checkbox and hit apply
[06:22] <nate_> whats up
[06:22] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: drivers are installed the same easy way. ifyou want to sneakernet it, though, you have to make sure you find all the dependencies yourself, which is less fun, but possible
[06:23] <nate_> thanks
[06:23] <nate_> i believe i can fly
[06:23] <obiwan177> i was trying to get to the iphonelinux channel
[06:23] <obiwan177> it didnt work
[06:23] <maco> unr3a1: did that start after you screwed up your permissions or before?
[06:23] <Slart> nate_: do you have a question about ubuntu?
[06:23] <nate_> i believe i can touch the sky
[06:23] <Slart> nate_: bye bye
[06:23] <Son_of_Demetrius> Please guys...run me by some really basic stuff...I get what you are saying maco...but I guess I've been lazy-minded for so long with Windows...I'm having withdrawals lol
[06:23] <unr3a1> maco: I dont have any permissions issues
[06:24] <zuse12345> hi
[06:24] <unr3a1> maco: none that I am aware of
[06:24]  * zuse12345 farted!
[06:24] <maco> unr3a1: didnt you say you cant edit users & groups anymore?
[06:24] <nate_> Hey, I am incredibly sorry about that, my little brother got on
[06:24] <shiMMer> how can i download/use microsoft office to my ubuntu 8.10???
[06:24] <unr3a1> maco: no.  I can't shutdown or restart my computer through the menu in the upper right corner.  I have to use init commands to shutdown or restart.
[06:24] <Son_of_Demetrius> How do I get Dependencies and Repositories etc?
[06:24] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: you know how on windows you google for a whie and eventually find an app you want then hit "next" like 10 times to install it? you dont have to do that
[06:24] <nickrud> nate_, by running windows in a virtual machine
[06:25] <unr3a1> maco: and i haven't tried to use sudo reboot or sudo halt, cause I am not used to those.  I come from a slackware background, so I am used to init.
[06:25] <wariskampar> hello, i would like to only display icon (no text) in the nautilus (for Home, Computer, Search, Up etc)
[06:25] <Slart> shiMMer: downloading we can't help you with .. you can perhaps run it in a vm or using wine
[06:25] <wariskampar> but i can not figure out how to do taht
[06:25] <nate_> How do you get more applications for Ubuntu
[06:25] <wariskampar> can someone show me the way
[06:25] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: so dependencies are like...when a program on windows tells you you need to install Sun Java first. that's a dependency. ubuntu figures that stuff out for you automatically though
[06:25] <Slart> nate_: Applications, Add/Remove
[06:25] <xorlim> nate_: sudo apt-get install packagename
[06:25] <nate_> Thanks
[06:25] <nickrud> nate_, sorry, wrong nick :)  system->admin->Synaptic package manager shows all
[06:26] <crimsun> Son_of_Demetrius: there's a useful package called 'aptoncd' that you can install through System> Administration> Synaptic Package Manager that will assist you in creating removable medium to install packages on non-Internet-connected machines.
[06:26] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: repositories are ubuntu's servers, and you can enable them in system -> administartion -> software sources
[06:26] <shiMMer> is there network stumbler for ubuntu 8.10??kismet wont help me a lot...
[06:26] <maco> crimsun: thatd requir him having two ubuntu computers
[06:26] <kyle__> Is anyone able to get pydance working with the animated graphics updating properly?   It's not working correctly here, and I'm trying to track down what broke between 8.1 and whenever it worked.
[06:26] <maco> crimsun: there's no aptoncd for windows yet
[06:26] <Phill> Hey, my resolution is messed up after upgrading to a Widescreen 21.something inch monitor, it use to display fine up to 1024x768 on a 17.something inch. Ideas?
[06:26] <Slart> shiMMer: search in synaptic.. system, administration, synaptic package manager
[06:26] <nate_> How can you hack Ubuntu if it is possible
[06:27] <wariskampar> do i need i install additional package to be able to do that
[06:27] <Slart> nate_: not discussed here
[06:27] <shiMMer> i need put source on kismet.conf...i dun know what to put...
[06:27] <nate_> Oh sorry
[06:27] <Son_of_Demetrius> I can't access the archives from my Ubuntu Comp...can I get something from this computer...this is my bro's pc...then transfer it to my other Ubuntu pc?
[06:27] <Phill> nate_: hack? like hack the code? or like "hacking it" like, security things?
[06:27] <unr3a1> maco: I say Son_of_Demetrius reads.  thats gonna help me a lot more than us walking him through the basics of ubuntu.
[06:27] <maco> nate_: hacking as in hacking or hacking as in cracking?
[06:27] <nate_> What are the capabilities of the Ubuntu software
[06:27] <Phill> nate_: if you have to ask; you can do neither.
[06:27] <nickrud> wariskampar, system->prefs->appearances -> interface tab
[06:27] <unr3a1> nate_ what are you looking to do?
[06:27] <zod21> whats up effers
[06:28] <zod21> hey anyone know how to connect to a samba share through terminal in linux
[06:28] <Phill> zod21!samba
[06:28] <Son_of_Demetrius> Sorry..I didn't get that private joke earlier :(
[06:28] <Phill> crap; forgot how to use irc.
[06:28] <I3lade> that made a WORLD of difference, thank you maco and nickrud
[06:28] <nate_> My cousin moved to Alaska and i need to connect with him but my parents wont let me get internet it is against their religion
[06:28] <Slart> !samba | zod21
[06:28] <unr3a1> Son_of_Demetrius: what private joke?
[06:28] <nickrud> I3lade, heh. Sometimes giving up is the right solution :)
[06:28] <Son_of_Demetrius> That I can read?
[06:28] <wariskampar> nickrud; thank you very much
[06:29] <crimsun> Son_of_Demetrius: you could also use virtualbox with an Ubuntu iso, and/or you can use wubi.
[06:29] <nate_> Can somebody answer my question
[06:29] <wariskampar> dont expect it to be damn easy
[06:29] <Slart> nate_: try writing him a letter
[06:29] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: oh he's suggesting that you read something like psychocats to learn the basics
[06:29] <lain_wired> Hiya, so I've mounted my /media/cdrom over the network - and I can access the files on the disc. What I'm not sure about is how to handle dvd movies. Usually, they play automatically with either vlc or totem, but I can't even get them to play the disc, because it reads it like a folder.
[06:29] <I3lade> nickrud, lol, well, I don't know why, I suppose just because the card is newer, but regardless, it works. So thank you
[06:29] <Son_of_Demetrius> OH?
[06:29] <unr3a1> Son_of_Demetrius: I was not meaning that as a joke, and I apologize if it came across that way.  What I meant was, that you are better off reading the documentation and learning as best as you can for yourself, then having us hold your hand through everythign.
[06:29] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: psychocats (google it) is a great resource from aysiu
[06:29] <nate_> I dont know his address but he sent me this Myspace thingy
[06:29] <crimsun> maco: 2? no. think VMs. as for win32, shrug. see above suggestion.
[06:29] <nickrud> nate_, then call him on the phone. But please, you're getting close to trolling
[06:30] <Slart> getting close?
[06:30] <Slart> =)
[06:30] <Son_of_Demetrius> I read a bunch of stuff...believe me..like my High School Principal wouldn't believe...and still can't get my head around it
[06:30] <Phill> My resolution is messed up at 640x480; how do I override?
[06:30] <Slart> !res | Phill
[06:30] <unr3a1> Son_of_Demetrius: Ok, then where are you most confused?
[06:31] <Slart> Phill: but usually X finds out what resolutions you can use automatically..
[06:31] <Slart> Phill: what kind of graphics card do you use?
[06:31] <nate_> I am not trolling this is a problem
[06:31] <I3lade> w00 I'm upwards 1000 fps now
[06:31] <I3lade> Thanks again guys!
[06:31] <nate_> Your Welcome
[06:31] <Son_of_Demetrius> How to install my Nvidea CDROM...and guess what?...I can't even eject it at the moment...I can't figure out why it wount eject
[06:31] <Phill> @slart: Nvidea, Geforce 4 it use to support 1024x768 or higher, and it supports it to, what i think is, 1200x900 but I'm unsure.
[06:32] <Phill> @slart: problem arose at this new Widescreen monitor.
[06:32] <freeatlast> Hi - Have the drivers from Dell for my Notebook - Trying to get Wifi card installed - Not sure how to use NDISwrapper and install drivers - any idea's ? ?
[06:32] <Phill> @slart: it's LCD rather than my old CRT; any difference? I know LCD's don't have refresh rates, which is nice. (WOO; no flicker!)
[06:32] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: the cd rom only has windows drivers
[06:32] <nickrud> !ndiswrapper | freeatlast
[06:32] <nate_> Is there a way possible to access the internet from a not electronic device
[06:33] <nickrud> nate_, no. last warning for trolling
[06:33] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: go to http://packages.ubuntu.com and search for nvidia
[06:33] <Slart> Phill: I think X gets the usable resolutions, along with some other data, from the monitor itself using some kind of "plug and play" system.. if that doesn't work it makes some very safe assumptions and you end up with plain vga 600x480 or similar
[06:33] <pikario> is there a way to shut down ubuntu immediately?
[06:33] <Son_of_Demetrius> Maybe that's the problem...*slaps self on the forehead*
[06:33] <nickrud> pikario, sudo halt
[06:33] <Slart> Phill: they still have refresh rates but it isn't noticable like on a crt
[06:33] <huwenfeng> pikario: yes, plug out the power
[06:33] <Slart> Phill: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[06:33] <Phill> @Slart: none that I really change; it's a different refresh rate, one for the back light not the actual redrawing of the screen, right?
[06:34] <Son_of_Demetrius> So how do I get Ubuntu to launch the CD Autorun file?
[06:34] <zacharym> has the color quality gotten better on recent LCD monitors?
[06:34] <Phill> @slart: 8.04 I think.
[06:34] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: ok i feel slow for not noticing that the first time you mentioned the cd rom :P
[06:34] <lain_wired> I think basically, ubuntu hasn't recognized the share as a video.
[06:34] <starfone> http://pastebin.com/m7abd11b3 happens when i plug in a usb memory device.
[06:34] <nickrud> huwenfeng, off topic, but the idiom is 'unplug' the power
[06:34] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: it wont help any. the cd only has windows drivers.
[06:34] <Phill> @slart: yep, 8.04
[06:34] <pikario> does sudo halt shut ubuntu down without going through any shutdown process?
[06:34] <unr3a1> Son_of_Demetrius: you cannot get that cd to work within ubuntu... it is only compatible with windows.
[06:34] <huwenfeng> nickrud: yes, sorry, just for fun
[06:34] <nate_> does sudo halt shut ubuntu down without going through any shutdown process?
[06:34] <nickrud> pikario, no, it does the complete process. Turn off power to avoid process
[06:34] <Slart> Phill: I think there's still a refresh rate.. but I'm not sure so I won't argue =)
[06:35] <Son_of_Demetrius> So my drivers are useless within Ubuntu...can't I get some file to talk to another in Ubuntu?
[06:35] <SynSyn> sudo telinit 0 - boom bye bye safely (or for explosions try 'sudo init 0')
[06:35] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: you can download drivers that are for ubuntu
[06:35] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: i'm looking for the packages you need
[06:35] <nickrud> huwenfeng, yeah, it's not polite to correct grammar. I cringed just after I hit enter. Thanks for the tolerance :)
[06:35] <huwenfeng> pikario: in fact, hibernate is a good idea, if you want to leave immediately
[06:35] <Slart> Phill: anyways... try checking the file /var/log/xorg.0.log for som clues to what goes wrong
[06:35] <Phill> @slart: Same here; and I can't read wikipedia in 640x480 so whatever; any ideas? I have a LOT of logs/info I can give you.
[06:35] <Phill> @slart: About to pastebin that file :)
[06:35] <unr3a1> Son_of_Demetrius: how are you hooked to the internet right now?  through a cable, or wireless?
[06:35] <maco> unr3a1: two computers. the ubuntu one is offline. he needs to sneakernet his nvidia drivers (ugh)
[06:36] <Son_of_Demetrius> Where?...and please..can I download them from another pc..and then install them on my Ubuntu pc later?
[06:36] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: yes
[06:36] <unr3a1> maco: why can't he hardwire his ubuntu computer to a network?
[06:36] <GodfatherofEire> SynSyn, doesnt sudo init 0 still just send sigterm not sigkill?
[06:36] <Son_of_Demetrius> My bro is on 56K...he's a gas!..lol
[06:36] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: can you go to the ubuntu pc and open a terminal and type in "uname -r"
[06:36] <huwenfeng> nickrud: oh , yes, it's ok,
[06:36] <nate_> I recently got this motherboard and video card (A GeForce 6200), and have been having trouble getting Compiz to work on it, both in Gutsy and in Hardy. I am using the NVidia driver provided by the restricted drivers manager, and normal 3D (glxgears and games such as neverball) works fine. However, Compiz is running very slow; if this were a video game I would say it was running around 0.5 frames per second. Also, whenever I start u
[06:36] <nate_> p Compiz, all of the areas that it is drawing to (windows and shadows) are covered in black, which goes away once something under them redraws, but is rather annoying.
[06:36] <pikario> i basically just want to immediately shut down ubuntu within like a second
[06:36] <Son_of_Demetrius> ok..let me do that
[06:36] <koshari> Son_of_Demetrius you can use another machine to downlaod the packages ect but its complicated, its a lot easier to use the package manager to do it all for you
[06:36] <karthik_> hey
[06:37] <huwenfeng> pikario: no such a way , right the moment
[06:37] <unr3a1> maco: if he does that, he should be able to download the updates, which will update his proprietary driver information in the hardware drivers manager.
[06:37] <Son_of_Demetrius> brb...wait maco...what will that command tell me?
[06:37] <nate_> we are having an intelligent conversation
[06:37] <karthik_> could any one please help me regarding switching workspace
[06:37] <SynSyn> Pilko 'sudo init 0' it will shutdown (I think sigkill)
[06:37] <karthik_> using a program
[06:37] <karthik_> or through command line
[06:37] <nate_> my girl friend just dumped me got any suggestions
[06:37] <Phill> @Slart: http://pastebin.com/m47871daa Here's 2000 lines of info.
[06:37] <maco> Son_of_Demetrius: what version kernel you're using
[06:37] <nickrud> nate_, now that's not trolling :) Wish I had an answer
[06:37] <Phill> nate_: work out, get over it.
[06:37] <nickrud> nate_, oops, spoke to soon
[06:38] <unr3a1> karthik_: you mean you want to get another desktop?
[06:38] <nate_> thanks she killed herself actually
[06:38] <zuse12345> all join #wwww
[06:38] <nickrud> nate_, seriously, I don't want to kick you. But you're on the last leg
[06:38] <Slart> nate_: oh.. look at this thread.. perhaps there's a solution, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=732391
[06:38] <huwenfeng> nate_: what?
[06:38] <zuse12345> ALL JOIN #wwww
[06:38] <maco> nickrud: just do it already
[06:38] <maco> zuse12345: yo, stop spamming
[06:38] <nate_> what did i do
[06:38] <huwenfeng> hi , i 'd like to chat,  is there any channel that people just chat for fun?
[06:38] <Phill> nate_: You're better off; avoid rebound, don't drink, don't do drugs. Join a support group.
[06:39] <maco> huwenfeng: #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:39] <Phill> @slart: ideas?
[06:39] <nate_> thanks your my new best friend
[06:39] <maco> nate_: and get relationship advice elsewhere. this isn't the place.
[06:39] <Slart> Phill: hang on.. looking
[06:39] <zuse12345> maco: im not
[06:39] <maco> zuse12345: yes you are
[06:40] <nate_> i dont have any friends though
[06:40] <zuse12345> maco; no im not
[06:40] <nickrud> zuse12345, we call that spamming here
[06:40] <Phill> @Slart: That's cool, also note, I did have "1024x" by accident, I've modified it but haven't restarted x :)
[06:40] <GodfatherofEire> !irc | zuse12345
[06:40] <maco> zuse12345: bull poopy, you're not
[06:40] <zuse12345> all joib #wwww!!!
[06:41] <maco> ah! ok someone else has to tell Son_of_Demetrius which nvidia packages to install. i dont know how this dkms thing works.
[06:41] <maco> nickrud: thanks
[06:41] <GodfatherofEire> Thanks nickrud, I was about to say that you might've stepped down a second too soon
[06:41] <nickrud> I try to let things cool themselves out, but sometimes it's not doable
[06:41] <Slart> Phill: if I were you I'd remove the frequencies from your xorg.conf
[06:41] <Slart> Phill: and see if it finds them automatically
[06:41] <Phill> @slart: I'm in private chat, It didn't before hand.
[06:42] <geeksquad> white-sheep:  how do i activate my webcam camorama and cheese don't work i am still on my XPS
[06:42] <unr3a1> maco: he is using dial-up internet...
[06:42] <maco> unr3a1: i thought he said his brother uses dialup?
[06:42]  * zacharym remembers the old days of him using a serial modem and dial up under slackware
[06:42] <sloopy> geeksquad gets its answers from #ubuntu? wow...
[06:42] <unr3a1> maco: its gonna take him forever to download the drivers through package manager.  no, thats the only internet connection he has access to
[06:43] <LumberCartel> Hello folks.  Does anyone have Xen 3.3 running on Unbuntu Linux?
[06:43] <GodfatherofEire> Say, what signal does er, alt sysrq O send, jw, while I'm thinking of quick emergency shutdown procedures?
[06:43] <maco> unr3a1: i was going to tell him which deb to download and put on a flash drive
[06:43] <nickrud> zacharym, unless you could read the text as it downloaded, you're not old school ;)
[06:43] <sloopy> zacharym, acoustic or direct connect?
[06:44] <geeksquad> so how to fix the internal XPS webcam
[06:44] <unr3a1> maco: there is a start, but how is he gonna get the 208MB of updates he needs before he can really start using apt-get and his GUI package manager?
[06:44] <maco> geeksquad: first find out if a driver exists for it
[06:44] <geeksquad> how
[06:44] <nickrud> !laptop | geeksquad you might find model info here
[06:44] <Ward1983> LumberCartel, yes i have xen running
[06:44] <Ward1983> LumberCartel, :p
[06:44] <maco> unr3a1: well he's just experimenting right now right? so no updates right now...
[06:44] <maco> unr3a1: but you can buy the entire repos on a set of like 5 DVDs for about $20 online
[06:45] <bashca> please help ???  i  did this command by mistake
[06:45] <maco> geeksquad: type "lsusb" in a terminal, then find teh xxxx:xxxx ID number for the webcam, and google it
[06:45] <nickrud> bashca, what command   /cringes
[06:45] <LumberCartel> Thanks Ward1983.
[06:45] <bashca> usermod -G10 bashca ...  and i can't  detect my modem also i can't open users&groups or any  link  from Administration ???
[06:45] <GodfatherofEire> Exactly what does alt sysrq o do? Signal/process/whatever it is wise?
[06:45] <maco> bashca: oh that was you!
[06:46] <maco> unr3a1: i thought what bashca said was you before, sorry
[06:46] <nickrud> bashca, boot into recovery mode, then run   adduser bashca admin
[06:46] <huwenfeng> is there any possibility that i can use windows with using VMWare or Virtual BOX? under ubuntu?
[06:46] <maco> bashca: you removed your user from all groups except #10
[06:46] <sloopy> huwenfeng, yes, xp and vista
[06:47] <bashca> nickrud, thanks
[06:47] <unr3a1> maco: its ok
[06:47] <narzy> hey sloopy
[06:47] <nickrud> bashca, then go to Users & groups and add yourself to adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[06:47] <huwenfeng> sloopy: what?
[06:47] <sloopy> narzy, hi
[06:47] <narzy> sloopy: thanks for all the help last night
[06:47] <bashca> maco, thanks i got  the point  i will  do that
[06:47] <huwenfeng> i mean under Ubuntu, to use Windows.
[06:47] <sloopy> narzy, np, did you get /home fixed?
[06:47] <maco> huwenfeng: you can use kvm or qemu....
[06:47] <narzy> yeah
[06:47] <bashca> nickrud, add my  bashca  to all groups right ???
[06:47] <maco> bashca: all groups you need
[06:47] <narzy> little scary moment when I thought my personal home folder got deleted
[06:47] <nickrud> bashca, yes. Those are the groups you will need
[06:48] <huwenfeng> qemu kvm OK
[06:48] <huwenfeng> let me try it
[06:48] <narzy> but I had mounted the folder on top of itself
[06:48] <narzy> it was weird
[06:48] <bashca> nickrud, bashca root disk uucp dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev vboxusers
[06:48] <maco> !kvm | huwenfeng
[06:48] <pikario> hi, what is the xf86www key?
[06:48] <bashca> such like this  now i did  but stile have the problem
[06:48] <nickrud> bashca, yep, you're running an older version. uucp !!!
[06:48] <bashca> i must add to admin groups
[06:48] <maco> pikario: i think its the keyboard key for launching your default web browser on a multimedia keyboard
[06:48] <narzy> sloopy: do you have experiance with securing SSH?
[06:48]  * bashca using  intrepid 
[06:48] <pikario> but what keyboard key is that?
[06:49] <sloopy> narzy, not really
[06:49] <maco> pikario: depends on the keyboard
[06:49] <maco> pikario: i dont have one at all on this keyboard, but my other laptop has one
[06:49] <pikario> what does it look like?
[06:49] <maco> pikario: probably like internet explorer's logo
[06:49] <narzy> sloopy: how about samba?
[06:49] <maco> pikario: it could be its own key or on a F key
[06:50] <bashca> nickrud, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m59377d22   please can u check  this
[06:50] <GodfatherofEire> Also, is there any way I could change the alt sysrq combo to a different key combo, because having to press alt fn del then REISUB/O is a bit of a pain
[06:50] <sloopy> narzy, i only dance with my wife these days and rarely at that ;')
[06:50] <narzy> sloopy: what do you do for a living?
[06:50] <maco> GodfatherofEire: no
[06:51] <sloopy> narzy, right now i dispatch taxi's and tow trucks in atlantic city area
[06:51] <maco> GodfatherofEire: thats a hardware evil
[06:51] <nickrud> bashca, you have yourself in some groups you shouldn't be, uucp is one. The ones I listed are the ones that are set by default in intrepid. Ubuntu is trying to move away from using groups for hardware perms
[06:51] <narzy> anyone know how to change the port number ssh listens on?
[06:51] <GodfatherofEire> maco, I figured, but not even at the kernel level?
[06:51] <narzy> sloopy: thats a cool job
[06:51] <maco> GodfatherofEire: dont believe so. you CAN send the commands using the terminal though
[06:51] <sloopy> narzy, uh... sure, ok...
[06:51] <maco> GodfatherofEire: would that help?
[06:51] <unr3a1> maco: btw, he is just a kid
[06:52] <maco> unr3a1: who?
[06:52] <narzy> sloopy: at least you have a job...plus you get to hang out and chat in here and help people w/ linux
[06:52] <GodfatherofEire> maco, not really, cause if I cant access the terminal, then trying to send commands from it would be a problem
[06:52] <maco> narzy: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[06:52] <unr3a1> maco: Son of Demetrius
[06:52] <maco> GodfatherofEire: if its panicked, sysrq doesnt work either though
[06:53] <narzy> maco yeah I tried to add port 8080 but when I ssh tim@10.1.0.112:8080 it doesn't work
[06:53] <maco> GodfatherofEire: if you can get to alt+sysrq+t, thatll give you a terminal to let you do the rest using "edho"
[06:53] <GodfatherofEire> maco, well, not panicked per se, just unresponsive, like when X crashes and I cant even see the terminal even if it was open
[06:53] <StevenX> does anyone know which compiz plugin is the one that i need so that i can make windows transparent using alt + scroll?
[06:54] <maco> GodfatherofEire: ah well if it's just X that's crashed, alt+sysrq+t if you can reach that combo will take you to a terminal and you can restart X
[06:54] <narzy> I want a Tshirt that says "I'd be lost without apt-get install"
[06:54] <GodfatherofEire> maco, cause I've tried that before, and then REISUB worked fine, just the ATi Drivers on here just shut down and the screen was completely unresponsive
[06:54] <maco> StevenX: i dont think that requires a plugin
[06:54] <bashca> nickrud, after that  i must restart  or relogin ??
[06:54] <nickrud> bashca, just relogin
[06:54] <sloopy> i want a t-shirt that says 'will abuse computers for $$$'
[06:54] <white-sheep> narzy: Invest more in aptitude install. ;o
[06:54] <bashca> thanks
[06:54] <koshari> maco there would be bindings somewhere
[06:54] <BellinXFelon> i have a question
[06:54] <GodfatherofEire> maco, it was like I disconnected the screen, but I didnt actually disconnect anything (which would be difficult regardless seeing as how I'm on a laptop.
[06:55] <StevenX> maco, I can't seem to get it to work. I have everything else I want working.
[06:55] <nickrud> sloopy, I'm gonna make one for myself. You'll get a tiny credit some where ;)
[06:55] <maco> unr3a1: kid as in high school or kid as in middle school or kid as in a kid i know that ran up to an IBM executive at age 7 shouting "i like linux!"?
[06:55] <BellinXFelon> what program can i use to write C, C+. C++ and C # as well as perl, and javascript
[06:55] <maco> BellinXFelon: vi?
[06:55] <nickrud> BellinXFelon, eclipse, gedit, vim
[06:55] <karthik_> need some help in ubuntu regarding how it does switching workspaces internally
[06:55] <maco> BellinXFelon: any text editor
[06:56] <BellinXFelon> ok
[06:56] <maco> StevenX: there's a setting somewhere....lemme find it
[06:56] <GodfatherofEire> maco, are you serious?
[06:56] <BellinXFelon> they all read the languages
[06:56] <StevenX> maco, thanks.
[06:56] <nickrud> BellinXFelon, if you want to expend some learning time, but get some real power, emacs or vim. eclipse is nice but bloated java
[06:56] <GodfatherofEire> maco (bout the kid and the IBM exec)
[06:56] <BellinXFelon> where do i get these programs
[06:57] <lain_wired> To recap, I've shared a dvd across a network using samba, and it has a video on it.  I'm not sure how I mount it so it's readable by totem.
[06:57] <karthik_> any one plz help me
[06:57] <GodfatherofEire> karthik_ you mean like the multi-desktop feature?
[06:57] <nickrud> karthik_, you mean the code for the window manager?
[06:57] <unr3a1> maco: lol... I honestly, dont know.  but I gave him my cell # to call, since its easier to talk over the phone, and he said he couldnt cause his parents were asleep and he would wake them... so I am guessing 12-14 max
[06:57] <karthik_> yeah
[06:58] <nickrud> karthik_, go to gnome.org , there's an irc server irc.gnome.org. I think you want #metacity, but check there for the actual channel name
[06:58] <maco> StevenX: oh it's opacity, brightness, and saturation. i dont think that used to be a separate plugin...based on it being disabled now that i upgraded
[06:58] <BellinXFelon> maco where do i get vim or emacs
[06:58] <narzy> why can't I see my linux machine in my mac network
[06:58] <karthik_> normaly we have workspace switching in the right hand side conrner at the bottom right
[06:58] <bashca> back
[06:58] <maco> BellinXFelon: well vim-tiny is installed by default
[06:58] <white-sheep> narzy: Because Linux is a beeeeast! :)
[06:58] <karthik_> i want to know how does it happens internal;ly
[06:58] <BellinXFelon> on xub 8.04
[06:58] <narzy> can I fix it?
[06:58] <StevenX> maco, thanks. so where do I go to set that up?
[06:59] <maco> !ccsm | StevenX
[06:59] <narzy> preferably set up a share...
[06:59] <GodfatherofEire> karthik_ you mean, like the source code or what?
[06:59] <bashca> nickrud, back  same  problem  i can't  use  gnome-ppp  also  i can't open users & groups  manager ??
[06:59] <StevenX> thanks again maco
[06:59] <white-sheep> narzy: What for?  If you need access (ssh + sftp) -- use openssl-server (I think -- Check with spelling).
[06:59] <nickrud> bashca,  type   groups   in the terminal, are you part of admin?
[06:59] <bashca> bashca@DrTARIQ:~$ groups
[06:59] <bashca> bashca adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[06:59] <maco> white-sheep: openssh-server
[06:59] <maco> narzy: ^
[07:00] <narzy> eventually I want this thing full VPN
[07:00] <bashca> nickrud, i was  using them all before using this command usermod -G10 bashca
[07:00] <nickrud> bashca, boot into recovery mode, go to the commandline, and adduser bashca admin
[07:00] <white-sheep> maco: Thanks. ;)
[07:00] <karthik_> yeah i mean i shd write a code for switching
[07:00] <bashca> ok
[07:00] <karthik_> for tht if i could understand the internals of ubuntu
[07:00] <karthik_> i can do it easily
[07:01] <sloopy> nickrud, thanks :')
[07:01] <narzy> I'm already ssh'd in
[07:01] <maco> karthik_: start by reading existing code. take a look at devhelp too
[07:01] <nickrud> karthik_, like I said earlier, gnome.org , the coders hang out there
[07:01] <karthik_> nickrud, ok
[07:01] <GodfatherofEire> karthik_ there are other was to switch desktops other than that switcher at the bottom right, specifically by using ctrl+alt+arrowkeys
[07:01] <maco> BellinXFelon: you can use synaptic to install vim-full
[07:01] <GodfatherofEire> But I presume you know that
[07:01] <karthik_> maco: where can i get the existing code
[07:01] <maco> karthik_: gnome.org
[07:02] <maco> karthik_: they write most of the code...ubuntu mostly just bundles it up all nice
[07:02] <nickrud> karthik_, you can even browse the source code there, or download code for stuff to your machine with, for example, apt-get source metacity for the window manager
[07:02] <white-sheep> I kept wondering -- Overall -- What'
[07:02] <shiMMer> how to enable kismet????????
[07:02] <karthik_> GodfatherofEire: yeah i know the normal ways to switch but i shd be able to do it by a programm
[07:02] <white-sheep> What's the benefits between Ubuntu 8.10 + Ubuntu 8.04 (LTS).
[07:03] <shiMMer> it not capture from right source..
[07:03] <BellinXFelon> ok
[07:03] <shiMMer> what i need to put on source???i use atheros ar5007eg.wlan0
[07:03] <maco> white-sheep: 8.10 has dkms for magic module compilation automatically when you get kernel updats so you dont have to do it manually if you use 3rd party drivers
[07:03] <GodfatherofEire> Also: any ideas why 2 diff installs of Intrepid, on the SAME exact computer would have different bass levels?
[07:04] <nickrud> shiMMer, try asking in #kismet they probably know more than we do
[07:04] <shiMMer> GodfatherofEire::yes
[07:04] <Gehom> I just installed the 64-bit version of Ubuntu, and it's my first time using any form of Linux at all. I tried to add my wireless connection so I can get internet. It mentioned something about using Windows Wireless drivers, but I can't install that without having internet access. How do I get my wireless working?
[07:04] <lain_wired> Okay, once again, never mind. I worked around it.
[07:04] <lain_wired> I feel invisible in here.
[07:04] <maco> Gehom: what kind of wireless card do you have?
[07:04] <shiMMer> for putting source,they tell me to ask from my dist..
[07:05] <maco> Gehom: and dont you have wired internet?
[07:05] <white-sheep> maco: All I know is that LTS have better support since they don't "rush" things -- Thus allowing all 8.10 to find and report the bugs.
[07:05] <sloopy> lain_wired, zen problem solving
[07:05] <maco> white-sheep: hahahahaha
[07:05] <nickrud> lol, sorry shiMMer not laughing at you but the loop
[07:05] <IndyGunFreak> white-sheep: thats totally ridiculous
[07:05] <white-sheep> !lts | white-sheep
[07:05] <m1chael> what kinds of mobile pda type devices do you guys use?
[07:05] <maco> white-sheep: i know that's not true
[07:05] <Gehom> Maco: I don't have wired internet on that computer, and it's a USB wireless device
[07:05] <white-sheep> !lts
[07:05] <maco> white-sheep: every release has rough edges just after release. wait a few months, and they're smoothed over
[07:06] <white-sheep> The explanation above isn't really that great.  :-\
[07:06] <lain_wired> sloopy, i hope zen can fix my dodgy totem playback
[07:06] <sloopy> m1chael, lately a old 1Ghz gateway laptop, but also used to use a Palm T5
[07:06]  * IndyGunFreak has no probs w/ Intrepid on 3 machines
[07:06] <shiMMer> can angry ip scanner be run on ubuntu 8.10??
[07:06] <nickrud> and then we get to do it again! says one who can't wait, always installs the last alpha
[07:06] <Slart> shiMMer: why not ask the people who wrote it?
[07:06] <white-sheep> IndyGunFreak: I use Intrepid 8.10 too. :o
[07:06] <GodfatherofEire> shiMMer, why would that be? Cause on one, the bass was ridiculously high, to the point at which my speakers sounded like crap, and on this one, its fine. keep in mind that its the same computer with the same equipment
[07:06] <m1chael> i was looking at iphone touch but it looks too proprietary and not nerd-friendly
[07:06] <IndyGunFreak> white-sheep: well i don't know why you'd utter such nonsense about what an LTS release is
[07:06] <maco> white-sheep: 8.04 was very rough after release, but it's improved. 8.10 has finally had its edges a bit smoothed over. and no i'm running unstabl again! wee!
[07:07] <shiMMer> any1 already can run angry ip scanner on ubuntu 8.10??
[07:07] <IndyGunFreak> i really had no problems w/ Intrepid at all, on my PC and 2 laptops
[07:07] <sloopy> never heard of a iPhone touch
[07:07] <Gehom> maco: I don't have wired internet on that computer, and the wireless is USB, not an internal card.
[07:07] <m1chael> ipod touch i mean
[07:07] <lain_wired> IndyGunFreak, That was really weird, I just googled my totem issue, and your name came up.
[07:08] <white-sheep> IndyGunFreak: Well -- Why do we have 8.04 LTS in first place?  This is what was gnawing away in my head.
[07:08] <IndyGunFreak> lain_wired: hm, i don't recall having totem issues, musta beena long time ago.
[07:08] <sloopy> lain_wired, all the smart people hang here...
[07:08] <maco> Gehom: ok what kind of usb wireless is it? though i think 2.6.28 just got usb wireless support...
[07:08] <white-sheep> lain_wired: Link for infamous IndyGunFreak name.
[07:08] <IndyGunFreak> white-sheep: it has long term support, ubuntu supports it for 3yrs..
[07:08] <Broly> installed lm-sensors.... command not found... how do i activate or look at the sensor readout?
[07:08] <lain_wired> IndyGunFreak, I think you were helping someone else. It came up because I searched eeePC
[07:08] <IndyGunFreak> white-sheep: the non-lts distros, are only supported 18mo
[07:09] <lain_wired> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/08/12/%23ubuntu.txt
[07:09] <lain_wired> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=eeepc+totem+playback+patchy&btnG=Search
[07:09] <white-sheep> Oh IRC logging.  Blah.
[07:10] <talbot> hey
[07:10] <GodfatherofEire> Any ideas why 2 diff installs of Intrepid, on the exact same computer would have different bass levels? Not the same model, but the SAME computer?
[07:10] <talbot> i just bourt a ipod touch 32gb for $40.47 ... i know, cheap :P  how do i put music on it with ubuntu
[07:10] <lain_wired> white-sheep, nothing interesting.
[07:10] <Gehom> maco: ummm...it's an airlink N 802.11 USB adapter
[07:10] <lain_wired> Totem is having a hissyfit though, it's all patchy and green and rainbow.
[07:11] <GodfatherofEire> talbot: try rhythmbox, and enable support for the iPod under plugins
[07:11] <kurisutofuaa> anyone know how to reset vlc to the default video setting through the CLI?
[07:11] <talbot> thanks bro
[07:11] <Hagge1> hello all
[07:11] <talbot> btw go to www.priceburner.co.cc if u want a HELL cheap ipod lol i just got 1
[07:11] <onetinsoldier> !hello | Hagge1
[07:11] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, \O
[07:11] <talbot> thx
[07:11] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: howdy, how are you?
[07:12] <Hagge1> ubottu: help
[07:12] <narzy> how do I ssh so I can run x11 apps remotely
[07:12] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, soft and squishy, and you?
[07:12] <sloopy> narzy, ssh -X ip
[07:12] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: fair to shaky
[07:12] <Hagge1> narzy: you can give ssh -X
[07:12] <narzy> can I see my linux desktop that way too?
[07:13] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, shakey? your made of tin? tinfoil maybe?
[07:13] <Hagge1> narzy: that commands gives ssh a place to display programs
[07:13] <GodfatherofEire> Any ideas why 2 diff installs of Intrepid, on the exact same computer would have different bass levels? Not as in the same model, different computers, but the SAME exact computer?
[07:13] <sloopy> narzy, no vnc for that...
[07:13] <Hagge1> narzy:  trhough you local X
[07:13] <Gehom> maco: so, is it even possible to use it?
[07:13] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: lol. yeah.. tinfoil. it shakes a lot when you wave it in the air
[07:13] <sloopy> narzy, but you can tunnel vnc through ssh
[07:14] <maco> Gehom: hrm if you wanna use windows drivers, grab your windows driver cd and your ubuntu cd. the ubuntu cd has ndiswrapper. install that from the cd. then use it to install the windows driver from your windows driver disk. or download the win driver from the comp you're using right now and walk it over on a flash drive
[07:14] <narzy> I need to get SSH to listen on port 8080
[07:14] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: just booted into my new totally custom 2.6.28 kernel  :-)
[07:14] <Xpistos> my wife is going to give linux a try and I am trying to make it more windows xp like for her to easy the change over
[07:14] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, fun, i havent cut custom kernels since my m68k days
[07:14] <IndyGunFreak> that was weird.
[07:14] <Gehom> maco: okay, I'll try that. Thanks!
[07:14] <Xpistos> Is there a way to change the icon for the Main Menu?
[07:15] <sloopy> Xpistos, i converted my wife 2 years ago...
[07:15] <koshari> Xpistos yes
[07:15] <Hagge1> Any toughts on using backups? I whant to use something that can handle network locations, and sadly Windows...
[07:15] <sloopy> Xpistos, i installed kubuntu on her laptop and after a day or two she mostly figured it out herself
[07:15] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: roger. why not? it's so fun figuring out(or trying to) all those kernel options, what they do, and whether you need them or not, hehe.
[07:16] <koshari> Xpistos its bound in gconf-editor
[07:16] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, i would rather answer simple questions on #ubuntu ;'D
[07:16] <Hagge1> Xpistos: Can't you just tell her what's what?
[07:16] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: i hear ya
[07:16] <sloopy> narzy, did you set 8080 for the port in sshd.conf?
[07:16] <bashca> nickName_, thanks i resolve it
[07:16] <nickrud> do I need ham radio? No. Easy question :)
[07:16] <bashca> thanks again
[07:17] <IndyGunFreak> Xpistos: trying to make i tlook like windows, will only end in frustration, because thats all it will do, is look like windows..
[07:17] <nickrud> bashca, cool
[07:17] <Hagge1> Xpistos: place the most importat application in the planel and you'll be fine i think
[07:17] <nbeebo> how can i link desktop sound to microphone?
[07:17] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, makes me feel smart, cause when you screw up a kernel you dont feel too smart...
[07:17] <narzy> I wanted it to listen on 2 ports
[07:17] <GodfatherofEire> Any ideas why 2 diff installs of Intrepid, on the exact same computer would have different bass levels? Not as in the same model, different computers, but the SAME exact computer? On one install, the bass was ridiculously loud, and I coulda sworn it was gonna blow my speakers, and on this one its perfectly fine. Anybody have any reason/ideas as to why that is?
[07:17] <narzy> so I added port 8080 on a new line
[07:17] <sloopy> narzy, why?
[07:18] <narzy> cause sometimes I don't want to have to type 8080
[07:18] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: roger
[07:18] <sloopy> GodfatherofEire, one install was done late at night so ubuntu took the liberty of helping you out and turning it down for you?
[07:18] <bashca> nickrud,  1 more help  when  trying to connect i got this error /usr/sbin/pppd wont  open  i guess it about permission
[07:18] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, who is roger? and why are you calling him?
[07:18] <white-sheep> GodfatherofEire: Life is full of mysteries -- If this problem was OLD -- Just forget about it. :o
[07:19] <Fragsworth> I'm trying to upgrade the version of vim that comes with my Ubuntu installation and I get an error
[07:19] <GodfatherofEire> sloopy, if only it worked that way the first time
[07:19] <Fragsworth> Package vim is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[07:19] <nbeebo> how can i link desktop sound to microphone?
[07:19] <bashca> bashca  adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[07:19] <Fragsworth> that's hwen i run "apt-get install vim"
[07:19] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: you of course! now, we better get on-topic b4 we get in trouble
[07:19] <nickrud> bashca, dialout is the ppp user, if you're a member of that it should work. But I last used ppp several years ago, and am rusty
[07:19] <sloopy> Fragsworth, vim-full ?
[07:19] <narzy> so how do I quickly list the contents of a file just to see what is in it?
[07:19]  * nickrud eyes onetinsoldier 
[07:20] <sloopy> narzy, less filename
[07:20] <Fragsworth> sloopy: package not found
[07:20] <onetinsoldier> uh-oh
[07:20] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, hey cutey that person over there is giving you the 'eye' ;'D
[07:20] <onetinsoldier> hello nickrud, how are you today?
[07:20] <GodfatherofEire> sloopy: also, the sound worked OOB in Ubuntu so I was just glad to have it back period, cause back in windoze, I tried installing the drivers at least 10x, and it just worked with Ubuntu
[07:20]  * onetinsoldier winks at nickrud
[07:20] <nickrud> onetinsoldier, good, yourself? I'm about out of here it's late and the weekend is tomorrow !!!
[07:21] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: i hear you. it's late here too
[07:21] <Xpistos> koshari: What am I looking for in the gconf-editor
[07:21] <nickrud> onetinsoldier, see you about. Have fun
[07:21] <sloopy> GodfatherofEire, yeah have seen that before... but i dont do sound issues, the bio hardware here doesnt work...
[07:21] <maco> Fragsworth: vim-full?
[07:21] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: ok, take care and have a good weekend!
[07:21] <Fragsworth> maco: i tried that too, but package not found
[07:21] <maco> Fragsworth: apt-get update, then do it?
[07:21] <sloopy> Fragsworth, thats a problem, cause it should be there...
[07:22] <GodfatherofEire> sloopy, yeah, strangely enough, I almost didnt notice it was even working when I booted up the live CD for the first time
[07:22] <CorbinFox> im having some trouble getting my wacom tablet working in 8.04, can anyone help?  i have wacom-tools installed and am using the same xorg settings from my previous install of 8.04, but this installation it isnt working
[07:22] <Fragsworth> maco: thank you :D
[07:22] <Fragsworth> that was the problem
[07:22] <pikario> hi, how do i get a trash icon on the desktop?
[07:22] <maco> pikario: gconf-editor
[07:23] <maco> pikario: then navigate to apps/nautilus/
[07:23] <pikario> i dunno how to make a launcher for trash because i dunno where the trash is located
[07:23] <maco> pikario: and it's in the "desktop" part in there
[07:23] <pikario> thanks, i see it
[07:23] <pikario> just out of curiosity, is there a way to do it with adding a launcher to the desktop
[07:24] <Hagge1> Xpistos: If you girl is a shopper, just tell her how much you'll save on purchasing a license for windows. :)
[07:24] <GodfatherofEire> Also, is there a way to update shared object archives (like usplashes) from version 2 from version 3, or if theres a way to decompile them, the re-compile them
[07:24] <maco> !trash | pikario
[07:24] <maco> pikario: make a launcher to where ubottu jsut said
[07:25] <koshari> Xpistos  In the configuration editor go to apps > panel > objects > find the object for your menu (an easy way to spot the correct object is that it will have “Main Menu” in the tool tip section).   Set the path to your icon in the “Custom_Icon” field.   Check “Use_Custom_Icon” a little ways down.
[07:25] <BellinXFelon> i am trying to learn all the program languages, what is the best one to start with?
[07:25] <mindrape> LOL
[07:25] <pikario> thx
[07:25] <mindrape> BellinXFelon: C
[07:25] <BellinXFelon> ok
[07:26] <BellinXFelon> then move on to C+
[07:26] <maco> BellinXFelon: C++, you mean?
[07:26] <mindrape> uhmmm C+ is a grade you get in school.  C++
[07:26] <CorbinFox> its C++, and yeah, then mayba try java
[07:26] <BellinXFelon> yes
[07:26] <BellinXFelon> then C#
[07:26] <maco> BellinXFelon: you will try to learn all programming languages, and then you will learn the truth: there is only 1 programming language, but many forms of syntax
[07:26] <werdnum> !exfat
[07:27] <werdnum> What's the deal with exFAT?
[07:27] <werdnum> Can I read it in Ubuntu?
[07:27] <mindrape> well after you learn C, C++, Java, Perl, and Ruby, you won't care to learn other languages.
[07:27] <CorbinFox> mindrape: what about python?
[07:27] <BellinXFelon> that is all thats needed?
[07:27]  * mindrape kisses his biceps... what about my pythons?
[07:27] <CorbinFox> im having some trouble getting my wacom tablet working in 8.04, can anyone help?  i have wacom-tools installed and am using the same xorg settings from my previous install of 8.04, but it isnt working now
[07:27] <Canaen> ok, so this is a really stupid question, but I'm downloading a new driver and I don't know whether I have a 32-bit or 64-bit x86 cpu structure. I sorta know what the difference is, and I bet I have 64, I just really don't know how to tell for certain
[07:28] <maco> Canaen: uname -a
[07:28] <werdnum> Canaen: uname -a
[07:28] <werdnum> oh, right :)
[07:28] <GodfatherofEire> Also, is there a way to update shared object archives (like usplashes) from version 2 from version 3, or if theres a way to decompile them, the re-compile them?
[07:28] <maco> werdnum: you mean vfat?
[07:30] <werdnum> maco: no, exFAT - it's FAT64. Google seems to say no.
[07:30] <Canaen> ty
[07:30] <Hagge1> Need backup help...
[07:30] <werdnum> What OS *SHOULD* I use for sharing windows and linux files? :/
[07:30] <maco> werdnum: O_O freaky. sounds new (it has the number 64). probably not supported yet.
[07:31] <mindrape> werdnum - the one that works for you... ?
[07:31] <werdnum> It's not all that new, but it hit mainstream for Vista SP1
[07:31] <werdnum> mindrape: erm, sorry I meant FS
[07:31] <mindrape> werdnum - you can use any OS I guess.. really comes down to what protocol you wanna use.
[07:31] <werdnum> What *FS* should I use for sharing files between windows and linux?
[07:31] <mindrape> well for Windows to not require massive amounts of tweaking probably NTFS
[07:31] <mindrape> or maybe fat32...
[07:32] <maco> werdnum: ntfs if you need files bigger than 4gb
[07:32] <werdnum> I don't like the 4G limit on FAT32
[07:32] <Hagge1> werdnum: Thats transparent, i would use ext3
[07:32] <werdnum> Does ubuntu read/write NTFS yet?
[07:32] <BellinXFelon> ok i installed vim-full how do i run it
[07:32] <werdnum> It's a 320GB portable drive.
[07:32] <mindrape> werdnum - ntfs-g
[07:32] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: you're an nvidia user, aren't you... just curious
[07:32] <Canaen> ok. So I just downoaded my first tar.gz file. There's a makefile file in it. Do I follow the commands in the makefil, or run it somehow? Also, before doing so, should I unzi the tar?
[07:33] <maco> werdnum: yes, for about a year or more now
[07:33] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, i have a machine with an nvidia card in it
[07:33] <maco> BellinXFelon: you type "vim newfile.c" or whatever you want the file to be in a terminal
[07:33] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: roger. mine is ati
[07:33] <GodfatherofEire> !compile
[07:33] <maco> Canaen: you mean untar the tar?
[07:33] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, also have one of those, and this laptop is intel
[07:34] <Hagge1> !backup | Hagge1
[07:34] <BellinXFelon> in a terminal?
[07:34] <Canaen> maco: extract, untar, yea. Lol. Sorry.
[07:34] <devin_> Can someone help me with a firefox issue? If so pm me...
[07:34] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, ati is x1550, nvidia is, uh... 5200 IIRC 256MB for sure tho
[07:34] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: ah yes, i think i remember now that you said your card was integrated intel chip
[07:34] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: so what's you favorite system/machine?
[07:35] <onetinsoldier> if you have one
[07:35] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, yeah, this laptop is going down hill, my disappearance was a hard lock up...
[07:35] <mindrape> devin_ if you ask in the channel we can all help.  Also you might want to ask in a #firefox channel if one exists as this is general Ubuntu help..
[07:35] <werdnum> maco: can macs read NTFS?
[07:35] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: ohhh, i see. either of your other systems a laptop?
[07:35] <devin_> aight. thanks!
[07:35] <macjason> guys i just got a laptop and installed ubuntu .. it can't see my wifi .. any ideas ?
[07:35] <mindrape> werdnum - yes.
[07:35] <sloopy> werdnum, yes, in osx and linux
[07:35] <maco> werdnum: there's a driver in existence for them to read, but not to write
[07:35] <maco> werdnum: er wait
[07:36] <maco> werdnum: their default driver is read-only
[07:36] <mindrape> macjason - sudo lshw -C network
[07:36] <maco> werdnum: there is a 3rd-party driver that lets macs write
[07:36] <koshari> macjason to begin with is your chipsets drivers loaded?
[07:36] <mindrape> macjason - sudo iwconfig         do you see it in there?
[07:36] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, my other laptops are m68k macs
[07:36] <macjason> one sec
[07:36] <Son_of_Demetrius> nitey-nite peeps...and thx 4 the help :)
[07:36] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: i see
[07:36] <BellinXFelon> as in a text editor is that what you mean by terminal. please bare with me i am new to this
[07:36] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, mrs has a compaq evo n610c
[07:36] <bashca> nickrud, please  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5316b0fc
[07:37] <werdnum> maco: *sigh* So against my better judgement, NTFS seems like the sensible choice for a multi-platform filesystem.
[07:37] <maco> BellinXFelon: you might not want vim or emacs... those are both keyboard-driven text editors (very fast once you get the hang of it, but there's a learning curve). gedit (applications -> accessories) might be easier to start with
[07:37] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: i hear you. i've never owned a laptop.
[07:37] <maco> werdnum: basically
[07:37] <bashca> maco, please http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5316b0fc
[07:37] <BellinXFelon> ok i have vim installed so use gedit
[07:38] <maco> BellinXFelon: vim and emacs are very powerful too. if you want to learn vim, i suggest applications -> accessories --> terminal, and run the commabd "vimtutor" to learn to use it
[07:38] <BellinXFelon> ok
[07:38] <mindrape> BellinXFelon - we aren't going to be able to help you program in C in one night... I recommend you spend some time clicking around the OS and understand where text editors are, how to edit configurations, etc.  If you want to really learn C go buy a book, sign up for a class and join #C
[07:38] <jim_p> hello people
[07:39] <jim_p> can i burn a 720mb iso to a normal cdrom disk?
[07:39] <BellinXFelon> yea i have a book on Javascript and perl right now
[07:39] <BellinXFelon> i just need to know how to practice
[07:39] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, i used to be a independent contractor, with macs, so got them fixed them and sometimes companys would give me several to have a few working
[07:39] <|AMDMutant|> the signal are crazy
[07:40] <mindrape> BellinXFelon - do you want to compile binaries for Linux?  Do you want to develop web applications?  What is your intent in learning all programming languages?
[07:40] <BellinXFelon> to be able to write any program in order to get a good job
[07:40] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: ahhh, i see. i've nver had a mac either. but when i was young i had an apple ii/e
[07:40] <BellinXFelon> software development
[07:41] <koshari> BellinXFelon if you want to be a programer these days move to india
[07:41] <|AMDMutant|> job...
[07:41] <mindrape> yup... move to India if you want to be a programmer and get ready to be paid $2/hr.
[07:42] <maco> BellinXFelon: but what *kind* of software? there are many branches
[07:42] <|AMDMutant|> onetinsoldier: hello
[07:42] <macjason> should i lspci ?
[07:42] <onetinsoldier> |AMDMutant|: hello
[07:42] <BellinXFelon> im not sure just yet, i want to be versatile
[07:42] <BellinXFelon> if you understand what i mean
[07:42] <koshari> macjason it would be a good start, or check your documentation
[07:42] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know why klogd and syslogd would be taking up all my CPU? I'm not running any programs
[07:42] <mindrape> BellinXFelon - how old are you?
[07:42] <bashca> maco, can u help me ?? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5316b0fc
[07:42] <maco> BellinXFelon: well you want to start with one thing, get good at it, then move on, probably
[07:43] <BellinXFelon> yea i want to master one at a time
[07:43] <koshari> BellinXFelon all the people i know making decent money in IT specialise.
[07:43] <BellinXFelon> yea it beats what i do now telemarketer
[07:43] <mindrape> if you want a career guaranteed to pay good money learn mainframes.  :)
[07:43] <BellinXFelon> anything beats that
[07:43] <mindrape> they will never go away... all banks are stuck on them.
[07:43] <maco> mindrape: you know, that attitude is what made me not want to do CS when i was in high school. hard to keep me away from it though, so i'm back to it. turns out being able to program and knowing linux pretty well means you're not really subject to outsourcing
[07:44] <BellinXFelon> soon i think all banks will be run on AI
[07:44] <mindrape> maco - Linux administration, yes.  Programming anything... way cheaper to offshore.
[07:44] <koshari> mindrape rubbish, heaps of stuff that enterprise runs now is virtualised
[07:44] <mindrape> koshari - yes, in zVM   :)
[07:44] <maco> mindrape: nah. plenty of development happens in first world countries
[07:44] <mindrape> want to run 1000 linux instances?  rev up zLinux in zVM... done.
[07:45] <maco> mindrape: its the tech support that's outsourced most
[07:45] <werdnum> I'm a software developer, and I live in Australia.
[07:45] <BellinXFelon> im going to use text editor and terminal
[07:45] <jim_p> can i burn a 720mb iso to a normal cdrom disk?
[07:45] <werdnum> that's the best way to do it.
[07:45] <mindrape> jim_p - probably... google overburn.
[07:45] <koshari> jim_p overburn
[07:45] <maco> jim_p: cds are 700mb
[07:46] <jim_p> maco, koshari, mindrape i thought of overburning, but will the result be bootable?
[07:47] <mindrape> jim_p - if its in el torrito format...
[07:47] <koshari> jim_p if the iso is it will be
[07:47] <mindrape> if you just throw together your own ISO probably not.
[07:47] <BellinXFelon> there are a ton of job listings for MySQL and Java
[07:47]  * edlang regrets upgrading to jaunty
[07:47] <jim_p> koshari, mindrape i dont want overburn to ruin bootability
[07:47] <Canaen> so I'm trying to compile a file. when I run Configure, should I try it on the tar, or should I extract the folder first?
[07:48] <mindrape> BellinXFelon: LAMP development is decent...
[07:48] <maco> BellinXFelon: yeah java's one that "enterprise" crap likes. C's classic. Ruby's the new fad for web development
[07:48] <mindrape> BellinXFelon: I dunno, personally I was a Java developer for a long while then did LAMP development for 2 yrs.  It gets old fast.
[07:48] <macjason> ok i have broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g wlan+
[07:48] <maco> Canaen: you have to untar it
[07:48] <maco> Canaen: and then cd into the directory
[07:48] <BellinXFelon> yea i can see that happening
[07:48] <maco> Canaen: and use a lowercase c
[07:48] <Canaen> cd?
[07:48] <edlang> http://paste.ubuntu.com/93630/ -- anyone had a similar failure with fglrx on jaunty?
[07:48] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know why klogd and syslogd would be taking up all my CPU? I'm not running any programs
[07:48] <onetinsoldier> edlang: i'm sure that jaunty i shaky. i was thinking about installing it on my free hard drive space to check it out, but not upgrading this installation to it. i am curious though, how bad is it?
[07:48] <mindrape> macjason - you can't use the default Ubuntu driver I believe.  Most Broadcom cards require you to use the Windows driver using ndiswrapper.  :(
[07:48] <maco> Canaen: change directory
[07:49] <Canaen> gotcha
[07:49] <maco> Canaen: why are you trying to compile anything anyway?
[07:49] <Canaen> special driver for wireless card
[07:49] <onetinsoldier> edlang: i'm sure that jaunty is shaky*
[07:49] <mindrape> macjason - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5693578
[07:49] <maco> onetinsoldier: depends on your hardware
[07:49] <edlang> onetinsoldier: well, I'm sure it's fine but my graphics card module doesn't play with the included X server
[07:49] <BellinXFelon> so i use text editor to write and terminal to run the program?
[07:49] <Canaen> maco: slong story
[07:49] <bashca> maco, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5316b0fc  ??  please help  me
[07:49] <onetinsoldier> edlang: roger, i hear you
[07:49] <maco> BellinXFelon: terminal to compile as well. i suggested vim before because its a text editor that lives in the terminal
[07:50] <maco> BellinXFelon: you can run commands (like make, to compile) from inside it
[07:50] <koshari> maco i prefer nano
[07:50] <BellinXFelon> i can edit directly through terminal
[07:50] <mindrape> and by lives he means it's really an OS like emacs that people call a txt editor because they are outright liars...
[07:50] <onetinsoldier> maco: i have a fairly new system. don't know how much difference that makes tho
[07:50] <pikario> is there a command you have to do in order to safely remove an external usb hard drive ? like unmount it?
[07:50] <mindrape> :P
[07:50] <mindrape> umount
[07:50] <neosimago> how would i package the custom k3b i just compiled for my system into a nice apt package acceptable for synaptic?
[07:50] <mindrape> pikario - always umount a device prior to removal.
[07:50] <maco> onetinsoldier: much more specifically. for example, specific wireless cards can have issues
[07:50] <maco> pikario: yes
[07:51] <maco> pikario: right click it and hit eject
[07:51] <pikario> really? is it dangerous to just unplug a usb hard drive?
[07:51] <pikario> i didnt know that
[07:51] <maco> bashca: sorry, i stopped using dialup last millenia.
[07:51] <mindrape> pikario - not really "dangerous" but it could corrupt whatever you most recently wrote.
[07:51] <pikario> i hope i didnt destroy my data..
[07:51] <pikario> ok
[07:51] <onetinsoldier> maco: roger. i have no wireless. dekstop system with good plain old wired cable connection
[07:51] <mindrape> pikario - pretty unlikely but still a possibility.
[07:51] <maco> pikario: or it could prevent the new data from being written at all. linux and mac both have a tendency to not write to flash drives at all until you tell them to eject
[07:52] <nbeebo_> what /dev is the microphone?
[07:52] <mindrape> nbeebo_ sudo lshw -short
[07:52] <nbeebo_> mindrape thanks ill try
[07:52] <bashca> maco, thanks
[07:52] <BellinXFelon> is there a list of commands that i can read to use in terminal?
[07:52] <mindrape> BellinXFelon: everything in /bin
[07:52] <mindrape> to start...
[07:53] <narzy> I have this in my smb.conf file how do I make it read write for everything that connects?
[07:53] <narzy> http://pastebin.com/m7687c195
[07:53] <Flynsarmy> /var/log/message, kern.log and syslog are over 2gigs in size. nobody knows what's wrong?
[07:53] <maco> mindrape: 1) not a he 2) vim is not an os like emacs. vim just lets you run outside commands. emacs has a freaking mail client and video editor BUILT IN
[07:53] <mindrape> createmask set to 0666 instead of 0644
[07:53] <mindrape> :P
[07:53] <maco> BellinXFelon: check out tldp.org
[07:53] <maco> BellinXFelon: it has howtos for um....everything
[07:54] <nbeebo_> mindrape, im trying to tunnel something trough it so i dont have any microphone..
[07:54] <mindrape> nbeebo_ no idea then.
[07:54] <nbeebo_> anyone with microphone that can run this command: sudo lshw -short and tell me the direction of the microphone?
[07:54] <mindrape> sounds like you're toying with the devils magic...
[07:54] <onetinsoldier> hmmm, ati 8.12 drivers 'claim' to have built for my new custom 2.6.28 kernel. it generated all the .deb's! should be interesting to find out if they actually work for this kernel version
[07:55] <white-sheep> Something occurred to me -- Is there a "special filename" for folder thumbnail (within the folder) ?
[07:55] <white-sheep> Eg -- folder.png ?
[07:55] <neosimago> say my package is in /compiled_dir and all i need to do is make install. -- how do i transform that into a standard debian package for synaptic? i hear there is something with checkinstall ?
[07:55] <mindrape> for folder thumbnail?
[07:55] <mindrape> what do you mean?
[07:55] <LurkersA> Hey guys, A question: I want to suppress updates for the openoffice package included in Hardy as I have installed OOo3.0, How would I go about doing that?
[07:55] <onetinsoldier> neosimago: yeah, checkinstall. it's pretty easy to use really
[07:55] <narzy> here is my entire config file
[07:55] <narzy> http://pastebin.com/m3ab5f216
[07:56] <maco> neosimago: its not terribly recommended because it can screw up, but yes, checkinstall can make apt aware of the package for easier removal
[07:56] <mindrape> LurkersA: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/
[07:56] <LurkersA> ta mindrape
[07:56] <maco> LurkersA: in synaptic, you can lock version on it
[07:56] <white-sheep> mindrape: Pretty much self-explanatory.  You place a <certain-file-spelling-name>.JPG/PNG/GIF/WTF in the said folder and that said folder display that image.
[07:56] <maco> white-sheep: no, that doesn't exist
[07:57] <maco> white-sheep: folder icons are based on the icon theme and all match nicely
[07:57] <mib_p1x3lt73d> onetinsoldier: laptop died again, running memtest :'(
[07:57] <onetinsoldier> neosimago: if you don't use checkinstall, make sure to keep the source dir around, so you can go into it and do a 'make uninstall' if you wish to uninstall the software
[07:57] <scientes> i just got a kernel OOPS while resuming, should i try to photo it or will it be on my hard disk?
[07:57] <white-sheep> maco:  Perhaps there are a package for it -- Thanks. >_>
[07:57] <tim__> Ok I got a question, Im running heron 8.04 and I recently installed steam/cs.  When I open cs things are fine and I can make  server and run around no problem.  But when I join an online game I can play for about 2 minutes or so before I freeze with repeating sounds and have to do a restart on my laptop.  Any ideas? :X
[07:57] <maco> scientes: photo it. such things often happen too quickly to log
[07:57] <hashbrowns> can someone suggest an ideal partitioning scheme for my ubuntu install?  I plan to use it as a workstation and run fuppes for a media server for my ps3.
[07:57] <onetinsoldier> mib_p1x3lt73d: oh man. :-(
[07:57] <neosimago> thanks onetinsoldier.... i've used that before.
[07:58] <onetinsoldier> neosimago: ok, roger that :-)
[07:58] <neosimago> any useful options you would recommend in checkinstall?
[07:58] <benjamin2> Hi, can someone tell me, what this error-message means? "[ 1002.656033] APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)" I didn't found nothing definitive via google. "2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP"
[07:58] <maco> hashbrowns: i usually give it 10gb for / , 2-3x amount of mem for swap (and i put that first) and then the rest for /home
[07:58] <LurkersA> maco: Thanks
[07:58] <BellinXFelon> maco : how did you learn all these things?
[07:59] <maco> BellinXFelon: experience?
[07:59] <onetinsoldier> mib_p1x3lt73d: well, if you can afford it, it sounds like you've got yourself a good excuse to get some sexy new laptop
[07:59] <BellinXFelon> yea thats the best teacher
[07:59] <mib_p1x3lt73d> onetinsoldier: had the reason, just not the $$$
[07:59] <hashbrowns> maco: so in gparted, partition the swap then the / correct?
[07:59] <onetinsoldier> mib_p1x3lt73d: awww, darn
[08:00] <maco> hashbrowns: yeah, that's how i do it. i'm told the start of the drive is fastest so you can swap faster and resume faster
[08:00] <|AMDMutant|> narzy: usershare owner only = False
[08:00] <hashbrowns> maco: how much swap do you think I need, Ive got 4GB of ram in the system I'm installing ubuntu to?
[08:00] <benjamin2> i don't know how it affects my systems. I think its related to the fact, that my wlan freezes every now and then...
[08:00] <macjason> mindrape, i found the drivers they are exe
[08:00] <mib_p1x3lt73d> onetinsoldier: know anyone who wants to trade a ipod nano (8G, 3rd gen) plus a little $$$ for a laptop (atleast 1.5Ghz)
[08:00] <mib_p1x3lt73d> ?
[08:01] <maco> hashbrowns: if you want to be able to suspend, then 8gb is recommended...
[08:01] <mindrape> macjason - read the tutorial I sent you the link for... it explains how to extract.
[08:01] <neosimago> just to double check... it would b like $checkinstall -D make install
[08:01] <maco> mib_p1x3lt73d: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:02] <onetinsoldier> mib_p1x3lt73d: nope. sorry, i can't help you with that
[08:02] <hashbrowns> maco: any particular filesystem for / and /home or just stick to ext3?
[08:02] <benjamin2> ok, another question. Has it negative effects if i start my linux without apic-support?
[08:02] <maco> neosimago: uh, i used "sudo checkinstall" all by itself when i used it
[08:02] <nbeebo_> does this mean /dev/audio is the microphone input? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=246992 im kinda dumb
[08:02] <macjason> mindrape, i did what it says
[08:02] <mib_p1x3lt73d> onetinsoldier: we are getting in trouble again :'(
[08:02] <maco> hashbrowns: ext3 is a good default. i'm told by a filesystems expert to only go to xfs if ext3 cant handle the performance for a server with a ton of little files
[08:03] <nbeebo_> does this mean /dev/audio is the microphone input? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=246992 im kinda dumb
[08:03] <maco> hashbrowns: ext3 does "safer" journalling so if the power cuts your data's less likely to be hosed than with other FSes
[08:03] <neosimago> oh? then i'm not understanding the [command [command arguments]] in the syntax
[08:03] <onetinsoldier> neosimago: when i use it, i just do   sudo checkinstall make install  ..so yeah, you go it, it sounds like
[08:03] <maco> neosimago: the [] mean optional, i think
[08:04] <macjason0607> mindrape, http://paste.ubuntu.com/93634/
[08:04] <jim_p> !greek
[08:04] <macjason0607> thats how it says to extract it mindrape
[08:04] <maco> neosimago: the "more correct" / safer way would be to properly package it and then build it in pbuilder, but um...i cant walk you through setting up pbuilder because my boyfriend set mine up for me *blush*
[08:04] <neosimago> yea, cool. i'm gonna keep a backup of this k3b build with all options enabled.
[08:04] <onetinsoldier> mib_p1x3lt73d: the fglrx 8.12 driver compiled and built.deb's for my new 2.6.28 kernel, so i am going to install them and try them out, see if they work for this kernel version. be back after a bit. wish me luck!
[08:05] <mindrape> use cabextract macjason0607
[08:05] <ottoshmidt> hi all, is it possible to make flashplayer use OSS?
[08:05] <nbeebo_> does this mean /dev/audio is the microphone input? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=246992 im kinda dumb
[08:05] <maco> ottoshmidt: instead of pulseaudio?
[08:05] <mib_p1x3lt73d> onetinsoldier: keep the bitbucket empty... and the good bits fresh
[08:05] <ottoshmidt> yes
[08:06] <macjason0607> hold on let me try something .. yea
[08:06] <macjason0607> sorry didn't see that
[08:06] <onetinsoldier> mib_p1x3lt73d: thanks. see you after a bit
[08:06] <maco> ottoshmidt: er....why? pulseaudio should just feed everything to oss for you...
[08:06] <neosimago> ... looking into pbuilder
[08:07] <ottoshmidt> the thing is that, if I have login successful sound enabled other sounds won't play without reinitializing pulsuaudio
[08:07] <ottoshmidt> whilst OSS works fine
[08:07] <ottoshmidt> except of flash
[08:07] <BellinXFelon> so can i write in any language in gedit
[08:08] <cn28h> BellinXFelon, it's just a text editor.. so yes
[08:08] <bullgard4> What is the funktion of the program "Autorun Prompt"? = nautilus-autorun-software %u ?
[08:08] <BellinXFelon> ok
[08:08] <maco> ottoshmidt: oooooh that's a bug. i think that's the race condition crimsun was grumbling about...
[08:08] <|AMDMutant|> BellinXFelon: you can even write in your mother languange
[08:09] <cn28h> now, wrt syntax highlighting, you'll be more limited
[08:09] <ottoshmidt> maco, I thought to make flash when OSS is set and all would be fine I guess
[08:09] <ottoshmidt> I mean make flash work when OSS is chosen
[08:10] <maco> ottoshmidt: i think flash only works with ALSA though. we have to sort of hack around it to get sound with pulseaudio even. maybe you can try libswfdec? it's an open source flash implementation. works for youtube at least, though sites done entirely in flash dont always work. i think it has OSS support though
[08:10] <onetinsoldier> mib_p1x3lt73d: it figures. when i tried installing the .deb's it failed for this kernel version
[08:11] <|AMDMutant|> strange... are they put new bts...
[08:11] <mib_p1x3lt73d> onetinsoldier: heh nice, i just realized my nick has been reg'd for over 7 years now... i spend too much time on freelode... err freenode
[08:11] <ottoshmidt> maco, ok I take a look
[08:11] <onetinsoldier> mib_p1x3lt73d: heh
[08:12] <macjason0607> mindrape, thanks .. worked like a charm
[08:12] <mindrape> np
[08:12] <mindrape> There always after me lucky charms...
[08:13] <mindrape> they're too
[08:15] <macjason> anyone have pure xfce ?
[08:16] <macjason> i want to install xubuntu and then remove the gnome panels
[08:16] <mindrape> go into dselect and figure out what's there that you don't want.
[08:17] <streenz> macjason, to go pure xfce, this link says how:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[08:18] <koshari> macjason if for any reason other than to preserve disc space theres no real reason to remove the gnome componants
[08:18] <macjason> koshari, i don't like the gnome menu bar that says applications system etc ..
[08:19] <macjason> koshari, i want to configure xfce with all the menus at the bottom on the dock
[08:20] <jim_p> how can i launch .msi files with wine?
[08:20] <mindrape> wine thefile.msi
[08:20] <mindrape> or just double click 'em maybe?
[08:20] <mindrape> some microsoft installers wont work under wine though...
[08:20] <mindrape> I'd refer to winehq's app db to make sure the program you want actually is supported.
[08:21] <koshari> macjason there shouldnt be any gnome panels in an xfce session?
[08:21] <jim_p> mindrape, this is for .exe files. .msi need a special parameter
[08:21] <macjason> well there was
[08:21] <mindrape> wine msiexec /i theprogram.msi
[08:21] <jim_p> thanks
[08:21] <mindrape> didn't think that was needed anymore...
[08:23] <macjason> what im going to do is install xubuntu via the desktop and log into it i will tell you if gnome panels are there
[08:23] <mint_> hi, can someone help me? I'm trying to open firefox, but it doesn't respond, what can i do?
[08:24] <mindrape> mint_ run it from a terminal
[08:24] <mindrape> see if it shows failure messages
[08:24] <mindrape> if not then sudo apt-get install strace
[08:24] <mindrape> then             strace firefox
[08:24] <jahrmando> algun mexicano
[08:24] <jahrmando> ?
[08:24] <mindrape> #ubuntu-es      or something
[08:25] <mindrape> or -mx ?
[08:25] <mindrape> !spanish
[08:25] <RajaA731> i've a samsung printer and i'm having difficulties to install it. i've read the 'readme' file, where it says to login as root and go to the directory where the driver is located and the command './install.sh'. but in doing so i get this error message ./install.sh: 11: source: not found
[08:25] <RajaA731> [: 670: ==: unexpected operator.
[08:25] <|AMDMutant|> damn im forgot the water!
[08:26] <krishnan> can anyone guide me on how I can setup a subdomain for my domain name. I host the domain on my own server. i want something.domain.com. please help me. the server runs on hardy server edition
[08:26] <mindrape> RajaA731: what is the model of Samsung printer?
[08:26] <mint_> mindrape: can i send you the answer of strace by pastebin?
[08:26] <mindrape> krishnan - you want help with bind entries?  try #bind or #dns
[08:26] <mindrape> mint_ surely
[08:26] <RajaA731> mindrape: samsung scx-4521f
[08:26] <tavi> salutare
[08:26] <mint_> mindrape: oh oh, i have remembered, no firefox= no pastebin
[08:26] <tavi> am si eu o problema
[08:27] <mindrape> !italian
[08:27] <cn28h> mint_, install the pastebinit package
[08:27] <cn28h> and use that
[08:27] <krishnan> mindrape: iam totally new in the concept so pls give me some tutorial link so tht i can get detailed idea
[08:28] <uggiy> pk[
[08:28] <uggiy> mjo[
[08:28] <uggiy> ]n oip
[08:28] <uggiy> jop[
[08:28] <uggiy> jmop
[08:28] <FloodBot1> uggiy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:28] <uggiy> jo[p
[08:28] <tim__> if I update from 8.04 to 8.1 do I need to backup my files, or will nothing need to be formated or what not
[08:29] <fosco_> tim__: nothing will be deleted, but make a backup anyway
[08:29] <tavi> hy
[08:29] <uggiy> 4w65i57887r68r
[08:29] <mindrape> krishnan - well I'd recommend you google a tutorial on bind... it's been a few years since I've managed A records and setup zones in bind...
[08:30] <tavi> ihave a problem whit a document in pdf
[08:30] <kev009_> has anyone here set up ubuntu to do an nfsroot and boot off tftp/pxelinux?
[08:30] <tavi> see what show me when i open whit open office
[08:30] <tavi> %PDF-1.6
[08:30] <tavi> %����
[08:30] <tavi> 2180 0 obj
[08:30] <tavi> <</Linearized 1/L 2161439/O 2183/E 532172/N 156/T 2159823/H [ 525 1573]>>
[08:30] <FloodBot1> tavi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:30] <tavi> and i wanna prin that
[08:30] <tim__> Ok another question :D
[08:30] <Fragsworth> how can I search for packages with a certain name that I can install through apt-get
[08:30] <fosco_> Fragsworth: apt-cache search string
[08:31] <tavi> hei?
[08:31] <tavi> someone here
[08:31] <tavi> ?
[08:31] <Fragsworth> fosco_: thank you
[08:31] <Fragsworth> fosco_: it doesn't work
[08:31] <Fragsworth> E: Invalid operation search
[08:31] <Fragsworth> oh wiat
[08:31] <Fragsworth> apt-cache
[08:31] <Fragsworth> my bad
[08:31] <FloodBot1> Fragsworth: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:31] <tim__> I just installed steam/cs on my laptop and I can open and start my own servers fine, but if I join an online server things freeze and I hear sounds repeating and I have to hard restart my laptop.  Im using heron and wine 1.0 :[
[08:32] <kev009_> has anyone here set up ubuntu to do an nfsroot and boot off tftp/pxelinux?
[08:32] <mint_> mindrape: http://pastebin.com/d16f83d0  here is the result of firefox
[08:33] <edlang> is debuild still the canonical way to build debian packages?
[08:33]  * edlang is quite rusty
[08:33] <tavi> hello??????????
[08:33] <tavi> does someone help me?
[08:33] <maco> tavi: OOo isnt for opening PDFs
[08:33] <tavi> and whit what i open that?
[08:33] <tavi> using ubuntu software?
[08:33] <Peddy> Does anyone know of a way to run a script every 3 seconds or so?
[08:33] <maco> tavi: Evince opens them. it's the default. just double click the pdf and it'll do the right thing
[08:33] <mindrape> mint_ looks like your perms are messed up in your /home/manuel/.mozilla/ folder...
[08:34] <tavi> at me open office open them
[08:34] <maco> Peddy: while [ 1 ] ; do ./script.sh && sleep 3 ; done
[08:34] <maveric> future
[08:34] <maveric> whoops.
[08:34] <mint_> mindrape: perms are permissons?
[08:34] <mib_p1x3lt73d> kev009_: yes
[08:34] <mindrape> yes
[08:34] <maveric> Um, anyone know how I'd go about checking if compiz is enabled via the command line?
[08:34] <mindrape> ps aux | grep "compiz"
[08:34] <kev009_> mib_p1x3lt73d: okay, how do I create the nfsroot environment?
[08:34] <maveric> Ta
[08:34] <lwizardl> hey
[08:34] <maco> tavi: there's an app called Evince or Document Viewer. that's what opens PDFs. OOo can only write PDF
[08:34] <mint_> mindrape: how can i fix it?
[08:35] <mindrape> mint_ cd /home/manuel/      ls -alh .mozilla     then cd into that dir and check the perms as well.
[08:35] <cn28h> mint_, can you post the full output? there's not enough output to see what fd 15/16 is
[08:35] <maximus_1> how can I convert ISO images into something I can use as a USB boot disk?
[08:35] <Peddy> Thank you maco. :)
[08:35] <lwizardl> in the newest firefox is there anyway to get the organize bookmarks to work similar to the old firefox. i'm having trouble organizing them into folders
[08:35] <maveric> mindrape: will that give the same output each time? Need it for a script
[08:36] <mib_p1x3lt73d> kev009_: i just followed the how to, didnt have any problems...
[08:36] <mint_> cn28h: that's the full  output, there is no more text
[08:36] <maximus_1> I tried copying all the contents over, renaming isolinux stuff to syslinux, and running syslinux on the drive, but that does nothing
[08:36] <mindrape> maveric - it will show you if a process is running with the word "compiz" in it.
[08:36] <mindrape> maveric - should be fairly standard...
[08:36] <maveric> Thanks.
[08:36] <kev009_> mib_p1x3lt73d: which howto?  the ones I see are all outdated
[08:36] <cn28h> mint_, if you copied it from a terminal then probably your scrollback isn't large enough.. try strace firefox 2>&1 | pastebinit
[08:36] <mib_p1x3lt73d> kev009_: copied a minimal install from a fresh install i made
[08:37] <maveric> One last question. If I call a program from a bash script, will the script go to the next line straight away, or only when that program is closed?
[08:37] <cn28h> maveric, depends if it's running in the foreground
[08:37] <maco> maveric: only when that program is closed
[08:37] <maco> maveric: by default at least. you can put it in the background if you want it to continue
[08:38] <maveric> Sweet, thanks. Disabling compiz to play a game, then reenabling all the time is damn annoying
[08:38] <mib_p1x3lt73d> kev009_: the one i used was for 6.x but was running 8.04
[08:38] <maveric> So chucking it into a bash script =]
[08:38] <mint_> cn28h: try now - http://pastebin.com/m6ae9bb80
[08:39] <tavi> well i finded evince but doesnt print
[08:39] <mindrape> maveric - http://wooledge.org:8000/BashGuide      good resource for you.
[08:39] <maveric> Thanks =]
[08:39] <cn28h> mint_, looks the same.. dump the whole thing to a file first I guess.  That or the pastebin script is eating part of the output :S
[08:40] <tavi> right now i have plugged a print
[08:40] <tavi> but doesn print
[08:40] <cn28h> strace firefox >& dump.txt ; pastebinit dump.txt
[08:40] <mindrape> cn28h - his pastebin has the full output...
[08:40] <mint_> cn28h: i can ensure you that's the full output the terminal gave me when i straced firefox, it started with read 15
[08:40] <mindrape> its very similar to mine except for the end...
[08:40] <hashbrowns> maco:  hey going back to my partitioning scheme question.  I've got three drives. Where should I mount them all. 2 are 250GB and 1 is 500GB.  Would the 8GB swap be quickest on the oustside of the 500GB drive compared to the outside of the 250GB?
[08:40] <cn28h> mindrape, no, the beginning of the trace is not there
[08:41] <maco> hashbrowns: er, idk
[08:41] <cn28h> mindrape, how could the first system call be a select() on fds that don't exist yet?
[08:41] <mindrape> cn28h - the relevant part is on line 485...
[08:41] <maximus_1> does anyone at all know how to convert between iso and img? anyone have a dd line which will do it?
[08:42] <maco> maveric: you were asking about usb disks, right?
[08:42] <cn28h> mindrape, ah, missed that
[08:42] <maximus_1> maco: I was
[08:42] <maco> maximus_1: oh
[08:42] <maco> maximus_1: oh yeah you're who just spoke right before me
[08:42] <maveric> Lol, I was asking about disabling com[piz from the command line for bash script. But my script didn;t work >.<
[08:42] <maco> maximus_1: ok there's a thing called isostick.sh that's on the ubuntu wiki
[08:42] <maco> maveric: i typed ma<tab>
[08:43] <maveric> :P
[08:43] <mindrape> maximus_1: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=Ubuntu+convert+.iso+to+.img
[08:43] <tavi> ?
[08:43] <tavi> got an answer for me?
[08:43] <maveric> My script disables compiz, but doesn't run my game, and then just re-enabled compiz again.
[08:44] <maco> maximus_1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[08:44] <Photoguy> Where do I go for setting startup programs?
[08:44] <cn28h> maveric, paste the script?
[08:44] <mint_> cn28h , mindrape: try now http://pastebin.com/f214d587f
[08:44] <maveric> #!/bin/bash
[08:44] <maveric> metacity --replace &
[08:44] <maveric> /home/maveric/Desktop/UrbanTerror/ioUrbanTeorr.i386
[08:44] <maveric> compiz --replace &
[08:44] <maveric> exit
[08:44] <FloodBot1> maveric: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:45] <mib_5urfp8> i need a wireless manager for ubuntu - which one should i get and how do i apt-get it?
[08:45] <cn28h> mint_, yes that looks like the full output, but what mindrape said -- see that line with the access() calls that fail
[08:45] <mib_5urfp8> can i apt-get wicd?
[08:45] <maveric> http://pastebin.com/m657e1aae
[08:45] <mindrape> maveric - is there a reason you need shaded menus, windows, etc with transparency and wobbly windows etc while you are playing that game?
[08:45] <maveric> mindrape: I'm trying to disable all that crud
[08:45] <onx> mib_5urfp8, you need to add the wicd repo, then you can apt-get it
[08:45] <Seveas> mib_5urfp8, network-manager is good and installed by default
[08:45] <mindrape> maveric - well the metacity --replace & oughta do it.
[08:46] <mib_5urfp8> onx: how do i add it
[08:46] <mindrape> but as an FYI I dont think that 2nd line is going to execute unless you throw a ./ infront of ioUrbanTeorr.i386
[08:46] <maveric> It does disable it, but it fails to start my game.
[08:46] <maco> mib_5urfp8: er, network-manager is installed by default
[08:46] <maveric> Ah, thanks. I'll try that mindrape
[08:46] <onx> mib_5urfp8, google should know
[08:46] <mindrape> /home/maveric/Desktop/UrbanTerror/./ioUrbanTeorr.i386
[08:46] <maximus_1> maco: inurl:wiki.ubuntu.com isostick.sh ... reveals one site with no apparent shell script
[08:46] <cn28h> nah, . is just the current directory and is redundant there
[08:46] <mint_> cn28h: sicerely, i don't know what do these lines mean, my linux knowledges are not so bigger
[08:47] <Seveas> mindrape, that's definitely not going to change anything :)
[08:47] <mib_5urfp8> maco: how do i scan for wireless networks with network-manager?
[08:47] <maco> maximus_1: should be a download link...
[08:47] <Seveas> mib_5urfp8, rifhtclick on the n-m icon :)
[08:47] <maco> mib_5urfp8: left click th applet
[08:47] <maco> Seveas: left!
[08:47] <Photoguy> Where do I go for setting startup programs?
[08:47] <Seveas> maco, eh, oops :)
[08:47] <maximus_1> maco: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[08:47] <maximus_1> maco: none there either
[08:47] <maco> mib_5urfp8: itll list all available networks
[08:47] <cn28h> mint_, ls -ald /home/manuel/.mozilla/*/
[08:47] <mindrape> Seveas: what wont?
[08:47] <mib_5urfp8> all i see is edit wireless networks
[08:48] <Seveas> mindrape, the ./
[08:48] <onx> mib_5urfp8, does your wireless show up in iwconfig at all?
[08:48] <Seveas> maybe a chmod +x is needed instead
[08:48] <maco> mib_5urfp8: if you left click it, itll list what's available right below the name of your wireless card
[08:48] <mindrape> Seveas - ...?  Pull up a terminal... edit a file and save it as blarp.sh...          ./blarp.sh
[08:48] <mindrape> it forces execution
[08:48] <mib_5urfp8> onx: no it doesnt
[08:48] <mindrape> just passing a path to a bash script wont get you anything.
[08:48] <Seveas> mindrape, no
[08:48] <mint_> cn28h: for what is the * ?
[08:48] <cn28h> mindrape, no, . is the current directory.. ./file means to run file in the current directory
[08:49] <Seveas> mindrape, ./foo means specifying a path
[08:49] <onx> mib_5urfp8, you'll need to find a matching driver then first
[08:49] <mib_5urfp8> maco: it only lists two networks which i attempted to connected when madwifi tools was working
[08:49] <cn28h> mint_, just to glob the directory namews
[08:49] <Seveas> since the current directiry rarly is on the path (good thing), you need to specify the path to make bash find it
[08:49] <mindrape> cn28h - so thats why I told him     ./hisprog
[08:49] <mib_5urfp8> onx: i have madwifi drivers - it was working a week ago but it just went away
[08:49] <cn28h> mindrape, he gave a path to it -- your path was the same
[08:49] <mindrape> /home/maveric/Desktop/UrbanTerror/./ioUrbanTeorr.i386      <--- notice the ./ before ioUrbanTeorr?
[08:49] <Seveas> mindrape, no, you told him to add a stupid extra ./ in the middle of a path which won't change anything
[08:49] <maco> maximus_1: ok try unetbootin. i guess isostick is deprecatd
[08:50] <mindrape> Seveas - yes it will... its saying in that path to execute that script
[08:50] <onx> mib_5urfp8, pastebin the dmesg output of what happens when you load madwifi then
[08:50] <mint_> cn28h: it says to me that directory doesn't exist
[08:50] <maco> mib_5urfp8: are the signals too weak to connect?
[08:50] <Seveas> mindrape, please take linux lessons. The stupidity is radiating from you :)
[08:50] <cn28h> mint_, hm.  Are you running firefox as your user?
[08:50] <mindrape> Seveas - well it apparently worked for him... :)
[08:50] <maveric> mindrape: I have now added that to the script
[08:50] <onx> maco, should still show up in nm though
[08:51] <maco> onx: s/he said 2 show up
[08:51] <onx> nop, that's the saved ones. iwconfig shows nothing
[08:51] <maco> onx: iwconfig doesnt show networks to begin with
[08:51] <mint_> cn28h: firstly, i run the command without sudo, and it said me denied permisson, then i used sudo with the command and it said that directory doesn't exist
[08:52] <maco> onx: are you thinking of iwlist?
[08:52] <onx> maco, iwconfig doesn't show his wireless at all
[08:52] <maco> onx: oooo ok i gotcha
[08:52] <mindrape> Seveas - read up on executing scripts... it worked for him.  Apparently my "stupidity" helps people. :)
[08:52] <cn28h> mint_, yeah. Don't use sudo to do this.  And when you did the ls it said it didn't exist? Hm.  ls -ald ~.  Perhaps the permissions on your home directory are wrong?
[08:52] <maco> onx: so do you think he meant it used to show 2 networks, then he installed bad drivers, then it broke?
[08:53] <Seveas> mindrape, ok, here's a quick lesson in how bash executes things:
[08:53] <cn28h> mindrape, ls -ald ~ # that is... . was part of my sentence and not part of the command ;P
[08:53] <maco> Photoguy: for after login?
[08:53] <cn28h> er
[08:53] <cn28h> mintg
[08:53] <mint_> cn28h: no, as a normal user it says denied permisson
[08:53] <Photoguy> maco yes
[08:53] <mindrape> Seveas - when you get done rambling feel free to explain why my solution worked for him... yawn.
[08:53] <cn28h> mint_, ls said that?
[08:53] <onx> maco,  he said it worked, then broke. no idea what broke it yet, but the networks are just the saved ones
[08:54] <mewshi> how do I get bluetooth working?
[08:54] <maco> mindrape: i'm with Seveas that putting a . randomly in the middle of a path does nothing
[08:54] <maco> Photoguy: system / prefrences / session /startup
[08:54] <mindrape> maco - its the end of the path telling it to execute the script        ./
[08:54] <Seveas> if you give it a path (ie: something with slashes in it), it will try and execute that file. The path can be relative(such as foo/bar/az or ./foo) or absolute (/‌usr/bin/bash). If you give it something without a slash (eg. foo) it'll search every dir in $PATH for it. The current working dir is often not in $PATH so you need to give it a path. A relative path starting with ./ is also a path
[08:54] <maco> mindrape: no...
[08:55] <Photoguy> maco, thanks
[08:55] <mindrape> ./ isn't a relative path... it's telling it to execute.  Go into a terminal and ./some.sh
[08:55] <cn28h> yeah, what Seveas just said.
[08:55] <maco> mindrape: "exec" or "bash" before the path would do that, but its already being told to execute by givin it the path
[08:55] <Seveas> mindrape, now shut up until you know what you're doing. This time your 'help' was innocent, next time it might inadvertantly break someone's machine
[08:55] <maco> mindrape: yes, it is a relative path
[08:55] <mindrape> LOL... how could that break somebodys machine?
[08:55] <maveric> Either way, the script is now loading my game. I miss spelled terror at the end of it >.<
[08:55] <cn28h> haha
[08:55] <maco> mindrape: i think he's afraid of what you'll say next when you start running your mouth without knowing what you're talking about
[08:56] <maveric> But, compiz --replace && exit doesn't exit the script. I think because compiz is still spitting out input
[08:56] <mindrape> Seveas - I've been a Linux admin for 10 yrs.  :)
[08:56] <Seveas> maco, indeed
[08:56] <cn28h> scary
[08:56] <mindrape> laugh...
[08:56] <maco> mindrape: wow, that's pretty bad...
[08:56] <Seveas> mindrape, rofl. Nobody in here believes that now :)
[08:56] <maco> mindrape: and you still dont know how paths work?
[08:56] <mint_> cn28h: yes, i can paste the result, but it's in spanish, it basically says that ls cannot access to that directory and then it says denied permisson
[08:56] <mindrape> so once again... you all fail to explain why my solution fixed his script and it magically started working
[08:56]  * mindrape LOLs
[08:56] <maco> mindrape: because your "solution" had jack to do with it
[08:56] <mindrape> hah.
[08:56] <maco> mindrape: he just said teh problem was that he misspelled terror
[08:56] <Seveas> mindrape, it did not, he probably did something else as well or something completely different was acting odd temporarily
[08:57] <cn28h> mint_, ok, that's bad.  echo $USER        then tell me if it says manuel
[08:57] <Seveas> mindrape, <maveric> Either way, the script is now loading my game. I miss spelled terror at the end of it >.<
[08:57] <mindrape> so tell me again.. how can putting a relative path in an absolute path break a machine?
[08:57] <Seveas> mindrape, so once again I urge to stop 'helping' if you don't know what you're doing. Next mistake can break someones machine
[08:57] <mint_> cn28h: yes, it says manuel
[08:58] <mindrape> Seveas - I help hundreds of people a day in here... no broken machines yet but I'll keep you posted.
[08:58] <cn28h> mint_, ok, stat ~ | pastebinit
[08:58] <maco> mindrape: it demonstrates that you dont know jack, so Seveas is telling you to stop volunteering misinformation until you learn what the heck you're talking about because next time you might be talking about something that could break a machine
[08:58] <jemark> im updating to the new 2.6.28 kernel
[08:58] <bazhang> !offtopic
[08:58] <mindrape> I don't know jack?  Interesting...
[08:58] <mindrape> tell me more about what I know and don't know...
[08:58] <maco> jemark: are you on 9.04 alpha?
[08:58] <mindrape> random insults are pure comedy in here...
[08:58] <bazhang> lets take bash arguments to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:58] <Peddy> What should the permissions on /dev/scd0 (my cd drive) be?
[08:59] <Seveas> Peddy, they should be something you don't change as udev sets them correcly :)
[08:59] <maco> Peddy: mine are 750
[08:59] <maco> but uh, what Seveas said
[08:59] <onetinsoldier> jemark: cool, i just did the same, but i'm still pretty much going to use the stock 2.6.27 kernel. the ati fglrx driver doesn't yet work for 2.6.28. but my custom 2.6.28 kernel is waiting for it!
[08:59] <Seveas> Peddy, if you can't access cd's make sure you're in the 'cdrom' group
[08:59] <jemark> maco, on intrepid
[09:00] <Peddy> Seveas: udev is being naughty, it doens't allow me to access my own cd-drives :/
[09:00] <Peddy> Seveas: Ok, I'll have a look at the groups.
[09:00] <mint_> cn28h: http://pastebin.com/f6e13de8d
[09:00] <Seveas> Peddy, are you trying to access them with the user created when installing or another user?
[09:00] <maco> jemark: well the easiest thing to do might be to rebuild jaunty's kernel instead of going through manual configuration of the kernel.org sources
[09:01] <Photoguy> Hey, any ideas why Blender isn't responding to the "-w" command?
[09:01] <cn28h> mint_, ok, that looks right.. now stat ~/.mozilla | pastebinit
[09:01] <wrii> how can i get ubuntu to connect to a hidden wireless network automatically at startup?
[09:01] <Photoguy> I tried editing the shortcut, I tried Caps "-W" and lower case "-w" but still comes up full screen.
[09:02] <jemark> maco, im building the new stable 2.6.28 kernel from www.kernel.org
[09:02] <mint_> cn28h: http://pastebin.com/f63b27ceb
[09:02] <Seveas> wrii, click on the n-m icon, select 'connect to hidden wireless network'. Fill in the details and connect.
[09:02] <Peddy> Seveas: User created while installing. I didn't change permissions, it just stopped working one night. Turns out I'm missing a bunch of permissions though (all of them, in fact, except for 'administer the system'). I'm fixing this now. Do I need to reboot or something?
[09:02] <Seveas> Peddy, logout + login
[09:02] <wrii> i've done that, but i have to do that every time reboot
[09:02] <mindrape> wrii - /etc/modprobe.d/options you can configure it to auto-connect when the driver is loaded
[09:02] <Peddy> Thanks Seveas.
[09:02] <cn28h> mint_, aha, here's your problem.  root owns this one. sudo rm -rf /home/manuel/.mozilla
[09:03] <Seveas> wrii, are you on 8.04 or 8.10?
[09:03] <maco> cn28h: what??
[09:03] <wrii> 8.10
[09:03] <cn28h> mint_, that will blow away the .mozilla directory.  After doing this, try running firefox again
[09:03] <maco> mindrape: dont
[09:03] <mindrape> maco - dont what?
[09:03] <maco> mint_: dont
[09:03] <Seveas> mindrape, once again you're talking nonsense. Stop it.
[09:03] <maco> mindrape: not you, sorry
[09:03] <mindrape> talking nonsense about what?
[09:03] <Seveas> maco, well, yes him anyway :)
[09:04] <maco> mint_: you can just "sudo chmod -R mint:mint ~/.mozilla" and then you'll own it instead of root owning it
[09:04] <wrii> it says "connect automatically" in the network's settings, but it doesn't connect automatically
[09:04] <cn28h> maco, eh same difference
[09:04] <onetinsoldier> cn28h: no.. big difference
[09:04] <maco> cn28h: no, your idea deletes all mint_'s settings
[09:04] <mib_5urfp8> maco: maco i cant figure out how to add the repository for wicd-get
[09:04] <maco> cn28h: this one just makes him/her own the directory again
[09:04] <onetinsoldier> cn28h: what if he had flash installed, bunch of extensions, had a lot custom bookmarks, ect
[09:04]  * mindrape laughs at maco and Seveas... incessant idiocy
[09:04] <Seveas> wrii, hmm, that would be a bug. one second
[09:05] <shoeunited> Question, is there an automated way to take a series of screenshots from a video file (as in program or script)?
[09:05] <Photoguy> Is there a way to edit Desktop effects, like advanced?  I don't wan't  "off, medium, High:
[09:05] <maco> !ccsm | Photoguy
[09:05] <cn28h> onetinsoldier, fair enough, I'm guessing his problem was he initially ran firefox as root which is why root owned .mozilla
[09:06] <onetinsoldier> cn28h: could be, perhaps he used sudo -c. i use sudo -i to avoid such problems
[09:06] <Seveas> wrii, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/295796
[09:06] <mint_> cn28h: do, what should i do?
[09:06] <maco> onetinsoldier: -s, you mean?
[09:06] <maco> mint_: the chmod line i gave you
[09:06] <onetinsoldier> maco: doh, yeah
[09:07] <Seveas> wrii, so I'm afraid we can't fix that in here and you'll have to wait for that bug to be solved
[09:07] <cn28h> mint_, sudo chown -R manuel:manuel /home/manuel/.mozilla
[09:07] <KillerOrca> Is there a full-proof way to clone a ubuntu install from one HDD to another?
[09:07] <Seveas> KillerOrca, some rsync creativity gets you a long way
[09:07] <wrii> thx, is there a way to get around the bug using a startup script or somethin?
[09:08] <Seveas> KillerOrca, something like rsync -av --delete --exclude /proc --exclude /sys --exclude /tmp / other.machine.name:/
[09:08] <mint_> cn28h: it works!!!!!
[09:08] <Seveas> KillerOrca, but please read the rsync manpage first before doing that
[09:08] <KillerOrca> well I can't boot with both HDDs installed, and I can't seem to run a livecd that has mount and rsync
[09:09] <maco> KillerOrca: you can install rsync on the live cd
[09:09] <Seveas> KillerOrca, just do an ubuntu install. rsync will fix any differences :)
[09:09] <maco> KillerOrca: but ive never really heard of a live cd that lacks mount...
[09:09] <mint_> maco: thank you too for your atention
[09:09] <maco> mint_: no problem
[09:09] <Seveas> maco, that's because it's impossible :)
[09:09] <mint_> cn28h: thanks
[09:09] <maco> Seveas: ah ok then
[09:09] <cn28h> np
[09:09] <maco> Seveas: that sounds about right
[09:09] <dios_here> does ubuntu install lilo or grub?
[09:09] <KillerOrca> maco, I can't run a normal livecd, had to install with alternate
[09:09] <Seveas> maco, one needs 'mount' to mount the rootfs :)
[09:09] <onetinsoldier> maco: i don't do the sudo -i or sudo -c very often, but i just checked. i do the sudo -i, same as su it says --> sudo -i     (equivalent to sudo su - , gives you roots environment configuration)
[09:09] <Starnestommy> dios_here: grub
[09:10] <dios_here> Starnestommy, thats a shame.. grub doesnt work
[09:10] <maco> dios_here: huh?
[09:10] <Starnestommy> dios_here: why doesn't it work>
[09:10] <KillerOrca> Seveas, I might just torrent the new one and update the current install
[09:10] <maco> dios_here: using a mac?
[09:10] <onetinsoldier> maco: it's want i like because then it doesn't clobber any regular user
[09:10] <Seveas> onetinsoldier, sudo -i (and for oldere sudo's that don't know -i, sudo su -) are the Good Ways of becoming root :)
[09:10] <j-a-k-e> Hey, is anyone able to tell me what kind of sound quality I would get with alsa on a creative xfi extreme gamer card?
[09:11] <Seveas> KillerOrca, you mean upgrading from one ubuntu version to the next?
[09:11] <dios_here> I have two harddisks.. windows is on primary, and I installed debian on secondary.. then i installed grub on the secondary harddisk as it has boot priority from BIOS.. bvut grub failed to load either system
[09:11] <Seveas> dios_here, #debian for debian questions please
[09:11] <maco> j-a-k-e: test with a live cd. the alsa expert is likely asleep just now, but i think that's one that only has beta drivers available from creative right now
[09:11] <KillerOrca> Seveas, yeah I will upgrade the current install, then dl the latest iso and install it on the target HDD
[09:11] <dios_here> Seveas, I am not asking any question or help... I solved my problem... I am just saying that grub doesnt work
[09:12] <maco> dios_here: no, you installed grub on the wrong hard disk
[09:12] <koshari> dios_here grub does work, what error do you get?
[09:12] <Seveas> KillerOrca, ah ok, that makes sense than what I thought :)
[09:12] <dios_here> maco, LILO works
[09:12] <dios_here> koshari it fails to boot
[09:12] <maco> dios_here: grub goes on the first disk and chainlinks the windows bootloader to boot windows. that's the direction that generally works
[09:12] <Seveas> dios_here, grub works. The install thing made a boo-boo with your setup, to get help solving it on your debian system, /join #debian
[09:13] <dios_here> maco, see that is why grub doesnt work
[09:13] <koshari> dios_here  you coulnt be more specific,
[09:13] <wrii> Seveas, can i add something to a startup script in /etc/modprobe.d/options or something to get it to connect automatically that way?
[09:13] <Seveas> if you don't want help, then please be quiet, there are people here who want help
[09:13] <maco> dios_here: uh...? because you installed it wrong?
[09:13] <dios_here> Seveas, I solved the problem with LILO.. I am not asking for help... I am discussing grub
[09:13] <Seveas> wrii, no, mindrape was talking out of his ass
[09:13] <bas> hi guys! when i install some soft i've msg: "Unable to lock the ​administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using ​it?" How i can install more than one pkg at once time?
[09:13] <Seveas> dios_here, this is a support channel. Not a grub discussion channel
[09:13] <maco> dios_here: well this is a help channel. if you dont want to help or be helped, shoo
[09:13] <dios_here> maco, I didnt install it wrong... it just doesnt work... LILO works when installed on secondary harddisk
[09:13] <koshari> dios_here you didnt solve the problem with lilo , thats a workaround
[09:14] <maco> bas: you cant
[09:14] <maco> bas: unless you mean by listing all the packages you want to install in one command
[09:14] <dios_here> Seveas, I actually plan to install ubuntu, that is why I asked if it comes with grub or lilo... because I fear it wont work
[09:14] <wrii> sooo mindrape was talking out of his ass? :)
[09:14] <Seveas> bas apt-get install package1 package2 package3
[09:14] <wrii> sarcasm doesn't convey over the internet:)
[09:14] <Seveas> dios_here, grub by default. lilo available via the alternate cd
[09:14] <maco> dios_here: on the last page of the installer, there's an advanced button. go in there and tell it to install grub on the right hard disk and you wont have a problem
[09:14] <bas> maco, Seveas:  tnx for help
[09:14] <histo> bas, yeah eithe ryou are running an update or apt in a terminal while you are trying to install the package
[09:15] <dios_here> maco, you dont get it.. I want to boot from my secondary hardisk
[09:15] <histo> dios_here, ubuntu uses grub
[09:15] <maco> dios_here: *sigh* grub stage 1 goes on the first hard disk. it loads either windows or stage 2
[09:15] <maco> dios_here: stage 2 being on the second hard disk
[09:15] <wrii> if that was sarcasm, what can i add to /etc/modprobe.d/options to get it to load? if it wasn't sarcasm, then darn
[09:15] <dios_here> maco, grub is a failure
[09:15] <histo> dios_here, and grub works fine.
[09:15] <maco> dios_here: if you want the ubuntu hard disk to be the one the motherboard talks to to boot, make it the first hard disk!
[09:15] <histo> dios_here, even booting to second drive etc... You just have to know how to set it up. You can even boot windows as a slave drive.
[09:16] <dios_here> maco, or use a boot loader that actually works
[09:16] <koshari> dios_here there are many reasons it may not have booted, grub could be looking for hdb which could be hda when you re route the bootstraping to the secondary drive
[09:16] <Seveas> wrii, it wasn't sarcasm I'm afraid. mindrape really was talking out of his ass
[09:16] <maco> dios_here: it generally helps if you configure things properly. take a look at the files in /boot/grub/ for a start
[09:16] <dios_here> koshari, maco here says that grub only works if its installed on the primary harddisk
[09:16] <maco> dios_here: you can force it to work the other way if you do magic with th config files
[09:16] <shoeunited> Question, is there an automated way to take a series of screenshots from a video file (as in program or script)?
[09:16] <wrii> so there is no startup script that can i can run automatically to connect to my hidden network automatically?
[09:16] <koshari> you could check the menu.12t file and use uuid or reinstall grub from a live disc using the menu.1st
[09:16] <onetinsoldier> on my mobo you can change which hdd is considered the first one in the bios. :-D
[09:17] <maco> dios_here: the easy way is to just put it in a normal setup where the bootloader is on the master
[09:17] <wrii> hmmmmmmmmmm :(
[09:17] <histo> dios_here, not necessarily true. You can use windows boot.init possibly to boot ubuntu on a second drive if thats what you want?  But I don't know why you'd want to do that.
[09:17] <Seveas> maco, a system should not force one to do this. For these situations lilo is still supported. Just let him use lilo :)
[09:17] <koshari> dios_here thats npt true because i have had systems with the primary a optical drive and the secondary  the hdd boot with gru, you ab even boot from a usb key with grub
[09:17] <dios_here> histo, I want to have my windows harddisk MBR untouched, in case the other is screwed then I can simply switch to it from BIOS
[09:17] <j-a-k-e> maco: thing is I'm actually running the 8.10 live cd now and it doesnt seem to support it out of the box or so to speak. Reading a thread in the ubuntu forums it seems I have to recompile the kernal and such to to install the driver for alsa. I'm just interested in sound quality here to give you an idea I actually have 8.04 installed with OSS4 and sound quality very 'average' compared to windows.
[09:18] <histo> dios_here, getting that working would be much harder than just letting grub do it. If you want windows on a second drive and ubuntu on the first then I would recomend using grub and you have to edit the menu.1st to change some things so that windows doesn't think its on the second drive when it boots.
[09:18] <maco> Seveas: doesnt lilo also force stupid things though? like you have to do things after evry time you twiddle the config files?
[09:18] <histo> dios_here, then you would not want to use grub during the install.  You can edit hte boot.ini and accomplish the same thing. Let me find you link.
[09:18] <KillerOrca> shoeunited, this link may help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=451457
[09:18] <Seveas> maco, yes, in many ways worse stupid things but at least it doesn't have the whole stage1/stage2 mess. If lilo starts, most of the time so will the system. With grub it still needs to find stage2
[09:18] <utremifasola> how do i make zsnes play sound?
[09:18] <dios_here> maco, you have to run lilo every time you install a new kernel.... which is like once in 5 years?
[09:19] <histo> dios_here, but same problem. If windows drive is screwed then you would have to use grub boot disk or something.
[09:19] <maco> dios_here: or every 2 weeks...
[09:19] <dios_here> maco, kernell make install runs lilo on its own anyway
[09:19] <shoeunited> Thank you KillerOrca, I'll look into it. :)
[09:19] <maco> dios_here: you dont do security updates? dang...
[09:19] <macjason0607> guys if im in ubuntu and i removed one of the panels .. can i just rm .config and rm .session ?
[09:19] <Seveas> dios_here, well, you should install security updates. Which means a new kernel every few weeks. But kernel package install scripts run lilo :)
[09:19] <maco> macjason0607: you can right click and add a new panel
[09:19] <Seveas> maco, you can but I'd rather follow maco's advise
[09:19] <macjason0607> maco, i want the default
[09:20] <dios_here> Seveas, are you talking about ubuntu's automatic updates?
[09:20] <Seveas> dios_here, yes
[09:20] <maco> macjason0607: top or bottom panel? i can tell you what's on each
[09:20] <madmartian> I'm having a problem with apt-get update: it tells me a method gave invalid 400 URI Failure message
[09:20] <dios_here> Seveas, I noticed a problem in ubuntu, which is the same in debian.. I just cant get it to obtain a static ip from my router.. I change the network admin settings, and it will still use dhcp
[09:20] <maco> madmartian: which repository?
[09:21] <maco> dios_here: network-admin has ceased to exist
[09:21] <Seveas> madmartian, disable any proxy and/or use better servers for packages
[09:21] <dios_here> maco, in 8.10? it was there in 8.04
[09:21] <Seveas> dios_here, that's because static IP's aren't obtained from routers.
[09:21] <madmartian> maco: not sure, am using all four from main server and medibuntu
[09:21] <maco> dios_here: yes
[09:21] <madmartian> seveas: no proxy
[09:21] <histo> dios_here, http://techiegeekuk.blogspot.com/2007/11/dual-boot-xp-and-ubuntu-710-via-bootini.html
[09:21] <maco> dios_here: nm 0.7 has all its functionality anyway, so it was unneeded
[09:21] <maco> madmartian: well which one does it say when it says 400?
[09:22] <dios_here> maco, in my experience it had no functionatlity at all
[09:22] <dios_here> Seveas, well whatever you call it technically.. my point is ubuntu and debian both fail to get me the IP i want
[09:22] <madmartian> maco: It had just hit medibuntu non-free sources
[09:22] <KillerOrca> dios_here, I had a way to get a static ip, I believe if you use the ifcongig command it will work
[09:22] <plenky64> whats the best way to get a vm going for ubuntu, is there a netinstall iso? or should i get a DVD iso?
[09:22] <maco> dios_here: it could connect to wep networks using intel 3945 wireless and nm couldnt. but it couldnt do dhcp, so i gave up and switched to command line for wep. but hey! turns out nm 0.7 on jaunty can do wep now...on like thr 3rd try...yay!
[09:22] <histo> dios_here, that would use windows boot.ini to control the dual boot functionality. If the windows partition crashed you could just use a grub boot disk to get to linux. THe smae if you were using grub and the linux partition crashed.  Or you could pop in a windows cd and fixmbr of the windows partition to get windows back.
[09:22] <Seveas> dios_here, well, if you say what you want I might be able to see what's going wrong. Are you setting a static IP or not? If so, where?
[09:22] <dios_here> KillerOrca, if I kill all the ubuntu/gnome network programs and do things manually, then yeah of course
[09:22] <maco> madmartian: ok so medibuntu.org is down. no biggie.
[09:23] <maco> plenky64: what's teh host machine?
[09:23] <madmartian> maco: thanks, i was worried my new local mirror had broken everything
[09:23] <plenky64> vista 64
[09:23] <hashbrowns> I'm having trouble connecting to the internet with my fresh ubuntu 8.10 amd64 install.  I can access file servers that are in my lan and I can access my router configuration page but I cannot go to pages like google.com.  Any ideas?
[09:23] <LiLEndian> Hello all, I have this issue with my nautilus- can't figure out why, but whenever i try to run nautilus file browser, it just dies on me, a flick of the window, and poof! its gone.
[09:24] <maco> plenky64: you can use a minimal install disk if you want net install, or you can use a regular ubuntu install disk
[09:24] <dios_here> Seveas, right click on the network icon the right top corner on the panel, and go in sett8ings, and set a static ip and gateway and such.. click ok.. it just will continue using dhcp
[09:24] <LiLEndian> The only time i can run it is when I run it from the computer icon on my desktop
[09:24] <maco> plenky64: if you dont have any vm software yet, virtualbox.org is a free one
[09:24] <plenky64> how big is the regular?
[09:24] <Seveas> hashbrowns, either a default route is missing or your router is booing. Pastebin the output of the command: route -n
[09:24] <plenky64> i have a licensed vmware workstation
[09:24] <histo> dios_here, is that link what you were looking for?
[09:24] <LiLEndian> the run command (/home/) doesnt work - nor does the gnome panel's places-> shortcut
[09:24] <dios_here> histo, yes thanks man
[09:24] <maco> plenky64: 700mb
[09:24] <onx> plenky64, ~700MB
[09:24] <LiLEndian> any ideas, anyone?
[09:24] <histo> dios_here, yes your dhcp problem is a noted bug in intrepid
[09:24] <plenky64> ok thats fine, as long as it aint 12gb like debian lol... thanks
[09:24] <j-a-k-e> Just out of interest, can anyone recommend a music manager with replay gain support?
[09:25] <hashbrowns> seveas: how am I going to get it there?
[09:25] <histo> dios_here, you can use /etc/network/interfaces and get around that issue.
[09:25] <dios_here> histo... no wonder... it is an annoying failure..
[09:25] <maco> plenky64: er....debian's only 12gb if you donwload way too many of teh cds
[09:25] <histo> dios_here, agreed. Its in the release notes.
[09:25] <plenky64> yeah...
[09:25] <maco> plenky64: the 20-cd-set is if you want to download the entire repository to disk
[09:25] <Seveas> hashbrowns, hm, point taken. Is there a line in the output of that command starting with 0.0.0.0?
[09:25] <maco> plenky64: you only need debian cd #1
[09:25] <hashbrowns> seveas: yes
[09:26] <plenky64> yeah, i settled for netinstall with that one
[09:26] <Seveas> hashbrowns, ok, is the gateway (2nd part of that line) your router? and the Genmask 0.0.0.0 as well?
[09:26]  * plenky64 thinks, 64 or 32 bit.. hrmph... think ill go 32 for now
[09:26] <plenky64> not sure im ready for ubuntu 64 hehe
[09:26] <archiee> hello
[09:26] <hashbrowns> seveas: yes
[09:27] <KillerOrca> If i install ubuntu to a new HDD, can I copy over my /home from an existing install if it is not on its own partition?
[09:27] <histo> plenky64, please consult the sticky int he 64bit forums. if you aren't sure.  I'm running it and have been for some time.
[09:27] <histo> plenky64, flash and everything else works just fine.
[09:27] <dios_here> histo, has it been fixed in 8.10? bytheway I installed the newest debian yesterday and it has the same problem.. it will not work even if you manually edit interfaces
[09:27] <plenky64> cool, good news
[09:27] <maco> KillerOrca: yes
[09:27] <Seveas> hashbrowns, ok, so the route is there. Guess 2: nat broken on the router. Try this: mtr google.com
[09:27] <maco> dios_here: which is the newest debian?
[09:28] <maco> dios_here: do you mean stable? because thats like a year and a half old
[09:28] <dios_here> maco, 4.0release6
[09:28] <Seveas> hashbrowns, where does that 'stop', last host entry in the list on the left side that's not 0.0.0.0 or questionmarks
[09:28] <histo> dios_here, debian will work if you edit interfaces and disable network manager.  I'm not sure if that has been addressed in jaunty ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:28] <archiee> has anyone here had any success installing ubuntu on a dell inspiron E1505
[09:28] <KillerOrca> maybe an non-ubuntu specific question: does foxmarks addon in firefox work in ubuntu and windows equally?
[09:28] <maco> archiee: that's the 15" silver laptop, right?
[09:28] <histo> dios_here, ubuntu intrepid will work if you do the same. Let me check my settings because i9 have static here.
[09:28] <archiee> yep
[09:28] <maco> KillerOrca: believe so
[09:28] <maco> archiee: ok then yes
[09:29] <archiee> any issues?
[09:29] <archiee> the live cd seems to work ok
[09:29] <maco> archiee: on the 4 year old one i had, um, the volume buttons dont work. other than that, no
[09:29] <histo> dios_here, yeah I edited the interfaces file and remove network manager from starting up.
[09:29] <archiee> the wifi was ok ?
[09:29] <hashbrowns> seveas: "mtr google.com" produced "Name or service not know: No such file or directory"
[09:29] <maco> archiee: but the hardware involved changes nearly constantly. if the live cd works ok, you should be good
[09:29] <archiee> cool
[09:29] <maco> hashbrowns: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[09:30] <archiee> thanks maco
[09:30] <dios_here> histo, ok I see
[09:30] <histo> dios_here, just run sudo update-rc.d -f NetworkManager remove after you've made the changes to interfaces
[09:30] <Seveas> hashbrowns, ah, so DNS is failing. Does /etc/resolv make sense (not empty, listing dns server that's probably your router)
[09:30] <dios_here> histo, thanks
[09:30] <Seveas> hashbrowns, ugh, no, I'm stupid
[09:30] <histo> dios_here, its a bug in this version of nm
[09:30] <blame> Hi. text on menus on certain software (twinkle, konversation and others) disappears. I cannot see the menus how can I assess and fix the problem?
[09:30] <hashbrowns> seveas: how do I check that?
[09:30] <dios_here> histo, yes that makes sense
[09:30] <Seveas> hashbrowns, it means mtr is not installed
[09:30] <KillerOrca> does /home include specific settings and apps installed?  I have torrentflux and other things configured now and completely forgot how I did them
[09:31] <maco> KillerOrca: yes
[09:31] <histo> KillerOrca, yes they are hiden files starting with a .
[09:31] <hashbrowns> seveas: well "mtr google.com" took quite a while to spit that out ~45 secs or so
[09:31] <MetaMorfoziS> Hi all
[09:31] <maco> KillerOrca: but!
[09:31] <Seveas> hashbrowns, try this: tracepath google.com
[09:31] <maco> KillerOrca: if you have thing on your panel that arent installed by default, youll get errors in gnome tilyou install them
[09:31] <histo> KillerOrca, you can hit ctrl+h to show them in a file browser window or "ls -a" in a terminal to see all the hidden files and folders in your ~
[09:31] <MetaMorfoziS> How can i prevent syslog to write the disk in every x seconds?
[09:31] <CapaH> Can someone tell me what port bind9 needs to have open in order to work? I am trying to dig @a dns server - and it is not responding on that port. What port is it?
[09:31] <MetaMorfoziS> I have added "-" before every related line
[09:31] <MetaMorfoziS> but the problem is still exists...
[09:31] <Seveas> CapaH, tcp and upd port 53
[09:32] <Igramul> CapaH, 53
[09:32] <maco> KillerOrca: i suggest using "dpkg --get-selections >> packages.list" on the old machine and "dpkg --set-selections < packages.list" on the new machine, then install and run "sudo dselect" and tell it to install. itll reinstall everything you had before. do that from a terminal before logging into gnome
[09:32] <histo> MetaMorfoziS, are you sure nothing else is being logged.
[09:32] <KillerOrca> maco, what about things like window managers and stuff? I messsed around with blackbox and am still using it
[09:32] <Seveas> CapaH, udp is tried first, tcp as fallback and for large queries (such as AXFR requests)
[09:32] <CapaH> thank you Seveas
[09:32] <hashbrowns> seveas: "tracepath google.com" produced "gethostbyname2: Unknown host"
[09:33] <maco> KillerOrca: whatver you have set to run by default when you login ought to be installed when you first login if you want to avoid errors
[09:33] <histo> KillerOrca, Do you have a seperate home partitioin? if you are talking about reinstalling that is the way to go.
[09:33] <histo> !seperatehome | KillerOrca
[09:33] <Seveas> hashbrowns, ok, so DNS really is broken :)
[09:33] <maco> histo: s/he's copying /home to a new computer
[09:33] <bazhang> !home
[09:33] <KillerOrca> no it isn't separate
[09:33] <Igramul> hashbrowns, You have a problem with name resolution. Check /etc/resolv.conf
[09:33] <MetaMorfoziS> histo > i've used btrace to check it, and i have stopped x during the tests. kjournald, swapper and pdflush was the names of the processes that started the write, and i found out that if i stop sysklogd then my disk can sleep for minutes...
[09:33] <Seveas> hashbrowns, Does /etc/resolv make sense (not empty, listing dns server that's probably your router)
[09:33] <histo> !home | KillerOrca
[09:33] <KillerOrca> I want to move to a larger HDD
[09:33] <hashbrowns> seveas: how do I check that?
[09:33] <maco> Seveas: /etc/resolv.conf i think you mean
[09:33] <Seveas> hashbrowns, cat /etc/resolv.conf (thanks maco!)
[09:33] <maco> KillerOrca: yeah its fine just listen
[09:34] <histo> MetaMorfoziS, well what exactly do you want ot accomplish have syslog running but not write to disk?
[09:34] <maco> KillerOrca: that dpkg stuff i said will make whats installed on the new one match what was on the old one
[09:34] <MetaMorfoziS> histo > not write in every few seconds...
[09:34] <mint_> one question, what is safer to make online transfers, firefox or opera?
[09:34] <onetinsoldier> hey guys, know where i might get 'kdebase-kio-plugins' for intrepid? i wonder if could i use the one for hardy? i'd like to install this package and the only thing that's missing is the kdebase-kio-plugins but i wonder what depends it has --> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/knights
[09:34] <MetaMorfoziS> so yes...
[09:34] <KillerOrca> maco what about the configurations I've made, how do I keep those?
[09:34] <histo> MetaMorfoziS, Well you may want to find otu what its writing.
[09:34] <CapaH> Strange, ok 53 IS open - and I can telnet to port 53 from the remote comp I am doing the dig from. However, I get this: connection timed out; no servers could be reached <-- Any ideas? I can run dig @localhost domain.com with no issues.
[09:34] <Seveas> mint_, no difference. Though firefox by default has phishing filters built in, don't know about opera
[09:34] <hashbrowns> seveas: well it isnt pointing to my router but looks like the comcast dns servers which seems right since unfortunately im a comcast customer.
[09:35] <maco> KillerOrca: if theyre for your user, they are in your home directory
[09:35] <maco> KillerOrca: if they're for the system, theyre in /etc
[09:35] <Seveas> CapaH, tcp and udp are open? bind9 isn't listening on just 127.0.0.1?
[09:35] <MetaMorfoziS> how? And if i have added dash to every line's start, then why it writes anything?
[09:35] <maco> hashbrowns: can you ping the dns server?
[09:35] <Seveas> hashbrowns, can you ping the ip addresses listed in that file?
[09:35] <Seveas> maco, stop beating me!
[09:35] <CapaH> Seveas: Yes becuase I can telnet from the remote comp to port 53
[09:35] <histo> MetaMorfoziS, cat /var/log/syslog is anything being timestamped in there ever few seconds?
[09:35] <hashbrowns> maco: how would I check that?
[09:35] <mint_> Seveas_: ok, thanks
[09:35] <hashbrowns> seveas: same question
[09:35] <maco> hashbrowns: type "ping" followed by the ip address
[09:36] <maco> Seveas: i win?
[09:36] <Seveas> hashbrowns, ping 1.2.3.4 (replace 1.2.3.4 by the dns server you found)
[09:36] <Seveas> hashbrowns, hit ctrl+c to stop the pinging
[09:36] <MetaMorfoziS> histo > i don't know, i have on cron script that runs in every minutes (fan speed controller, did not writes anything)
[09:36] <Pe3k> hello, is it possible to find out size of package which I am going to install? (including dependencies)
[09:37] <maco> Pe3k: itll tell you before it asks you to confirm installation
[09:37] <MetaMorfoziS> And i have "-" before the syslog and the cronjob's logfile's too in syslog.conf
[09:37] <Seveas> Pe3k, yes, apt-get -s install foo (-s means simulate, so it won't download and install)
[09:37] <Pe3k> thanks
[09:37] <histo> MetaMorfoziS, try checking "cat /proc/sys/vm/block_dump"
[09:37] <CapaH> Seveas, : Take a look at this pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/1294444 <-- result of the dig
[09:37] <KillerOrca> Is there a good existing script out there that rips DVDs to HDD when you insert them?
[09:37] <MetaMorfoziS> 0
[09:37] <utremifasola> how do i install a package?
[09:38] <utremifasola> (manually)
[09:38] <Seveas> Pe3k, err, scratch my answer. -s doesn't show size either. Try what maco said. Just run the install command and it'll tell you
[09:38] <MetaMorfoziS> utremifasola > dpkg -i yourpkg.deb
[09:38] <MetaMorfoziS> sudo*
[09:38] <utremifasola> it's source MetaBot
[09:38] <utremifasola> MetaMorfoziS, i mean
[09:38] <utremifasola> :)
[09:38] <utremifasola> sorry MetaBot
[09:38] <wayne> hey im new to linux how do i install java and flash player?
[09:38] <FloodBot1> utremifasola: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:38] <Pe3k> Seveas:ok
[09:38] <maco> wayne: to gt those and codecs and fonts... sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:38] <MetaMorfoziS> histo > it's 0, what does it mean?
[09:39] <KillerOrca> Is there a good existing script out there that rips DVDs to HDD when you insert them?
[09:39] <wayne> maco what does that mean exactly lol
[09:39] <histo> MetaMorfoziS, check this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=833301
[09:39] <MetaMorfoziS> thank you!
[09:39] <hashbrowns> seveas: how long should it take normally? It never gave me back the prompt and ive been sitting at it for ~1min
[09:39] <dios_here> utremifasola, tar zxf source.tar.gz ; cd source/ ; ./configure ; make install
[09:39] <ttyX> I have a couple of questions if anyone is willing to answer
[09:39] <hashbrowns> seveas: only spat out one line too
[09:39] <utremifasola> thanks di
[09:39] <utremifasola> dios_here,
[09:39] <maco> wayne: if you type that command into a terminal, itll pull in java, flash, stuff for playing mp3s and dvds and wmv and all the other types of audio/video you can think of
[09:40] <dios_here> utremifasola np
[09:40] <Seveas> hashbrowns, that means the dns server is failing. it should take no more than a few seconds.
[09:40] <Seveas> hashbrowns, can you do: tracepath -n 1.2.3.4 (again replace that 1.2.3.4) and see where that stops?
[09:40] <hashbrowns> seveas: okay just hit ctrl+c and 229 pakets sent 0 returned
[09:40] <histo> MetaMorfoziS, near the end of that thread he found the problem to be with a dvdrw drive he recently installed.
[09:40] <ttyX> why are there old version of packages in the lts repo?
[09:41] <ttyX> I mean there's no 2.6.27 kernel n all
[09:41] <KillerOrca> is there a good app for ripping DVDs reliably?
[09:41] <maco> hashbrowns: try editing /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[09:41] <MetaMorfoziS> histo > it's an eeepc (without any optical rom) :-) But i will check that
[09:41] <hashbrowns> seveas: there are three different nameserver entries in cat /etc/resolv.conf should I check them all?
[09:41] <maco> hashbrowns: add "prepend domain-name-servers 208.67.222.222;" then redo your dhclient to make it use OpenDNS
[09:42] <Seveas> hashbrowns, the more info, the better
[09:42] <histo> MetaMorfoziS, well the person helping him also offers other suggestions. But you may want to try searching the forums for your problem. I'm not currently experiencing it.
[09:42] <Seveas> maco, opendns sucks. And won't help if it's a routing or NAT problem after all :)
[09:42] <maco> Seveas: true. but it will help if the dns server is down :P
[09:42] <maco> Seveas: and it doesnt really suck...
[09:43] <kop> automount can get confusing in ubuntu , ie; type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,flush)
[09:43] <Seveas> maco, using dns for content filtering is just security by obscurity. And the extra TLD's are useless unless everybody uses them
[09:43] <histo> Seveas, whats the problem with opendns ? I use it and its faster than my isp's dns servers.
[09:43] <maco> Seveas: opendns doesnt do the extra TLDs
[09:43] <hashbrowns> seveas: well if the dns servers were down I dont think this machine would be up. This machine and the other machine that is having problems are both on the same lan. Unless of course I'm an idiot and dont know what im talking about which may very well be the case.
[09:43] <Seveas> maco, ah, then I have my facts mixed up. Sorry
[09:43] <maco> Seveas: at least i dont think....pretty sure that's a different one
[09:43] <wayne> maco im having trouble with the terminal like entering the password
[09:44] <maco> wayne: type it and hit enter. its not supposed to show anything
[09:44] <MetaMorfoziS> histo > okay. I have checked smatctl -a, and i have found that my load_cycles is pretty high. My hdd is lived down it's life's 30% under 64 days. (it's load cycle is at 162000 and the manual says the max is about 600k)
[09:44] <Seveas> hashbrowns, no, you make perfect sense unfortunately. Is the router perhaps a comcast box that only allows a limited number of machines to access the internet?
[09:44] <kop> hashbrowns, your not alone on the ID10T front , not that it will make you feel any better
[09:44] <maco> Seveas: opendns does do content filtering if you have an account and whatnot and set it up. i just use it so if some malware changes the dns settings on the router, i'm safe
[09:45] <Seveas> maco, if malware manages to change your router settings, 'safe' is not what I would call your situation...
[09:45] <Seveas> no matter which dns box you use
[09:45] <kop> < --- vi /etc/fstab and cross fingers ....
[09:45] <hashbrowns> seveas: that tracepath you told me to do, the first line returned name-desktop.local (192.168.0.3)    0.106ms pmtu 1500 and the rest of the lines were no reply
[09:45] <utremifasola> i'm trying to install zsnes on linux and when i run ./config i get the error message "The sdl-config script installed by SDL could not be found"
[09:46] <maco> Seveas: well if im at a coffee shop and some jagoff with windows or mac installs "codecs" that alter dns settings on the router (yes, there is a known "codec" installer that does this...not really a codec), im not getting dns from that routr then
[09:46] <histo> Seveas, what problems have you had with open dns? Or do you know of a better solution for alternative dns server.
[09:46] <utremifasola> but i have libsdl installed
[09:46] <Seveas> hashbrowns, that means it cannot even access the router. You said you could access it before, didn't you? Can you check that again?
[09:46] <rabidweezle> utremifasola, isn't there a znes deb on getdeb?
[09:46] <maco> utremifasola: libsdl-dev too?
[09:46] <Peddy> The process 'Xorg' is taking up 50% CPU, even after a reboot, anyone know what may cause this to happen?
[09:46] <Seveas> histo, I run bind on my kitchen server :)
[09:46] <hashbrowns> seveas: and the router is a netgear router.  It worked before when I had like ubuntu 7.10 installed right out of the box but now it doesnt for some reason.  the modem though, is a comcast provided one.  Motorola surfboard something or another
[09:46] <maco> Peddy: compiz
[09:46] <utremifasola> rabidweezle, but the sound does not work using that package.  i was advised to install it from source
[09:46] <rabidweezle> also try to install all the sdl-dev packages
[09:47] <rabidweezle> as in the -dev ones
[09:47] <rabidweezle> you need dev packages to compile it into apps
[09:47] <Seveas> maco, openvpn ftw :) (I *always* tunnel to home when abroad)
[09:47] <Peddy> maco: Even when I use Metacity instead, it's still that high.
[09:47] <utremifasola> ok :)
[09:47] <maco> Seveas: true... though my tunneling is usually to my school
[09:47] <kop> Peddy, what proc ?
[09:47] <Peddy> kop, Xorg
[09:47] <hashbrowns> seveas:  I just opened up firefox and pointed it to 192.168.0.1 (my router) and entered my password and username and it took me to the router configuration page so I assume I can access it.
[09:48] <rabidweezle> so you should in total have like sudo apt-get install libsdl-dev sdl-mixer-dev sdl-whatever-dev
[09:48] <maco> Seveas: cosí doesn't allow tunneling however. yet for some reason their Terms of Use thing says "this is not encrypted and is thus not secure. we recommend using a vpn" and then they block protocol 51!
[09:48] <rabidweezle> I'd grab em all
[09:48] <kop> Peddy, should have been more specific , what processor ?
[09:48] <Seveas> maco, protocol 51? ipsec?
[09:48] <maco> Seveas: yes
[09:48] <utremifasola> this is the first program i've compiled in a looooong time
[09:49] <rabidweezle> do you have all the x dev packages too?
[09:49] <Seveas> maco, ipsec+nat usually doesn't work well. Try an ssl vpn such as openvpn
[09:49] <Peddy> kop, I thought you meant process, I have an Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 @ 2.6GHz
[09:49] <Seveas> (most of these hotspots are nat)
[09:49] <maco> Seveas: can't. my school uses ipsec and cisco vpn. it works fine from all cafés except cosí because they're deep-packet-filtering jagoffs
[09:50] <hashbrowns> seveas: so what should I do now?
[09:50] <Seveas> ah. cisco. They have an ssl vpn solution too :)
[09:50] <Peddy> kop, I realize my question was really vague, but there's no other way of explaining it :P
[09:50] <KalEl> hi... i'm going to buy a new external hard disk for the ubuntu desktop. should i buy maxtor or seagate?
[09:50] <rabidweezle> I know when I compile stuff I gotta grab a messload of library dev packages and xorg, and ogg, zlib, sdl, mesa, glut.... etc
[09:50] <maco> Seveas: not exposed at my school though :P
[09:50] <Seveas> hashbrowns, I really have no idea. Is there perhaps a firewall on your pc? Or one on the router that doesn't like your IP address?
[09:51] <Seveas> maco, ah well, it's better than crappy juniper vpn anyway :)
[09:51] <maco> KalEl: which one is on sale at your local computer store?
[09:51] <KalEl> maco: both... but maxtor is cheaper
[09:51] <maco> KalEl: so go with that :P
[09:51] <kop> Peddy,  does seem high as I am using a dual PIII @930 and 1g ram I see only 10 -13% with full boat compiz on two xservers (dual head )
[09:51] <KalEl> ok thanks
[09:51] <maco> KalEl: people say "oh X is the best hdd manufacturer" but it varies from year to year...
[09:52] <KalEl> i never bought hard disk before so i don't know about any brand
[09:52] <hashbrowns> seveas: does the ubuntu CD come installed with a firewall? I just did a fresh install and havent changed anything yet.
[09:52] <maco> KalEl: its only in hindsight that you really see who did best which year with which models
[09:52] <KalEl> i see... thanks
[09:52] <Peddy> kop, when you use the command 'top', how much CPU usage does Xorg have?
[09:52] <KalEl> it's a 1 tb hard disk
[09:52] <Seveas> hashbrowns, no firewall then.
[09:52] <maco> KalEl: wowie!
[09:53] <kop> KalEl, year to year and size and interface and manufacturer and ... :-)
[09:53] <itai-michaelson> hi there - my USB stopped working on hardy - that is hardy doesn't recognise any usb devices anymore
[09:53] <KalEl> :)
[09:53] <knut_> hi, i get an mpd error when i want to install something via synaptic
[09:53] <kop> Peddy, 10 -13% cpu
[09:53] <histo> Seveas, can I pm you?
[09:53] <rabidweezle> anyone experiencing some strangeness after the upgrade to intrepid/
[09:53] <KalEl> maxtor is cheaper by 24%, only Rs. 6250. so then i will go with that... thanks!
[09:54] <bonhoffer> i am trying to install netbeans 6.5 on ubuntu and the install.sh didn't put a binary in my path -- where should i put a symbolic link to the executable?
[09:54] <bonhoffer> /usr/bin ?
[09:54] <Seveas> histo, you can but in 20 seconds I'm gone, have to do some shopping.
[09:54] <histo> Seveas, k
[09:54] <maco> bonhoffer: /usr/local/bin for things installed not-from-repos usually
[09:54] <maco> Seveas: bye bye
[09:54] <bonhoffer> o.k. thanks
[09:55] <hashbrowns> seveas: I also have static routes to the two ethernet ports on that computer so I don't see why the router would be blocking this computer or anything.
[09:55] <kop> Peddy, compiz is another 10% but firefox is a real whore @ 48%
[09:55] <Seveas> maco, the convention is /opt for 3rp party packaged things and /usr/local for 'sysadmin installed' things like with make install :)
[09:55] <maco> Seveas: few things ever use /opt though
[09:56] <Seveas> maco, most things that use it annoy me. (commercial virusscanners at $work)
[09:56] <maco> Seveas: OOo 3 packages?
[09:56] <pikario> how can i stop windows from docking/sticking to the edge of the screen?
[09:56]  * Seveas off, bbl
[09:56] <maco> rabidweezle: you mean like OOo 2.4 in Intrepid displaying things differently than OOo 2.4 in Hardy does?
[09:56] <wayne> maco what do i do when it comes up with package configuration
[09:56] <kop> Seveas, the unsupported Matrox driver .... uses /opt
[09:57] <maco> pikario: install compizconfig-settings-manager and then in it go to Wobbly Windows and disable sticking
[09:57] <hashbrowns> seveas, maco: do you guys have any other ideas as to how to fix my problem?
[09:57] <maco> wayne: what?
[09:57] <maco> hashbrowns: nope
[09:57] <bonhoffer> maco, huh, i typed  sudo ln -s netbeans /usr/local/bin/netbeans (from my netbeans bin directory) but netbeans in bash returns bash: netbeans: command not found
[09:57] <maco> wayne: hashbrowns reboot?
[09:57] <maco> bonhoffer: absolute path
[09:57] <maco> hashbrowns: maybe reboot
[09:57] <maco> wayne: sorry
[09:58] <maco> wayne: is it asking you something?
[09:58] <bonhoffer> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root       8 2008-12-27 04:55 netbeans -> netbeans
[09:58] <wayne> maco after you told me to type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:58] <bonhoffer> maco, got it
[09:58] <wayne> now its comes up with package configuartion
[09:58] <wayne> and no its not asking me anything i dont think
[09:58] <maco> wayne: it downloaded them all right? so now it's doing the actual install
[09:59] <kop> Peddy, I have no real answer for you other than it seems like a valid question 40+% cpu for Xorg is high
[09:59] <wayne> mmk
[09:59] <onetinsoldier> bonhoffer: is that a java app?
[09:59] <maco> onetinsoldier: yes
[09:59] <Peddy> kop I'm going to try on another account and Gnome safe mode etc. Thanks for your help.
[09:59] <maco> onetinsoldier: its like eclipse
[09:59] <bonhoffer> netbeans -- yes
[09:59] <kop> Peddy, possibly /j #xorg :-) ??
[09:59] <pikario> where is wobbly windows?
[10:00] <pikario> in compizconfig
[10:00] <rabidweezle> maco, among other things yes
[10:00] <rabidweezle> strange freeze ups...
[10:00] <onetinsoldier> bonhoffer: bash won't work on it the... you need java command
[10:00] <onetinsoldier> then8
[10:00] <maco> pikario: under Effects
[10:00] <bonhoffer> onetinsoldier, it has a bash executable -- i can run it from its bin directory
[10:00] <bonhoffer> just fine
[10:00] <E-XtraCt> when I press on the num keys and the num lock turn on the mouse pointer is moving by the number direction instead of writing the numbers, how can I fix it ?
[10:00] <onetinsoldier> bonhoffer: oh, hmmm
[10:00] <maco> rabidweezle: kernel panics or just thngs getting slow and all the apps freezing up for 30 seconds at a time?
[10:01] <rabidweezle> firefox freezes...
[10:01] <rabidweezle> x crashes
[10:01] <mchelen1> what is the qt gtk adapter called?
[10:01] <maco> rabidweezle: yeah im told 2.6.27 is just crappy at resource allocation
[10:01] <rabidweezle> and full kernel crashes
[10:01] <onetinsoldier> bonhoffer: you mean your wondering why you have to actually go into /usr/local/bin to be able to run it?
[10:01] <wayne> maco do i have to restart now?
[10:01] <maco> rabidweezle: i get the everything slowing and freezing thing in intrepid and jaunty
[10:01] <maco> wayne: no
[10:01] <rabidweezle> I mean at one point, bluetooth applet was using over a gig of ram
[10:02] <maco> wayne: just use whatever you want
[10:02] <pikario> lol my windows are wobbly now
[10:02] <rabidweezle> a gig of ram for an applet?!
[10:02] <rabidweezle> O_O
[10:02] <bonhoffer> no -- initially, i was wondering where i should put the executable in my path
[10:02] <onetinsoldier> bonhoffer: ok, i see
[10:02] <bonhoffer> all working well now
[10:02] <rabidweezle> and my laptop don't even have bluetooth
[10:02] <onetinsoldier> cool
[10:02] <maco> rabidweezle: as far as kernel panics, not sure why you're getting those. likely a specific driver
[10:02] <CapaH> I am trying to set up bind dns... I have created all the zone files/etc - I can run dig @localhost <domain> and it works fine. I can telnet to port 53 and it works fine. However, when I look at daemon.log I see: command channel listening on 127.0.0.1#953 -- seemingly it is listening on localhost but other ips... Any ideas?
[10:02] <rabidweezle> probly
[10:02] <Jordan_U> rabidweezle, You should file a bug report, it's obviously a memory leak
[10:03] <kop> pikario, better than the opposite my windows are stable and I'm wobbly
[10:03] <maco> rabidweezle: sys / admin / services ...disabl bluetooth :P
[10:03] <rabidweezle> I did
[10:03] <rabidweezle> ^_^
[10:03] <kop> pikario, might have something to do w/ scotch
[10:03] <Peddy> kop, what temperature does your CPU average at?
[10:03] <maco> Peddy: if you disable compiz, does your Xorg usage go down?
[10:03] <hashbrowns> seveas: any other ideas?
[10:04] <maco> hashbrowns: he's afk
[10:04] <Peddy> maco: Nope, if by disable compiz you mean metacity --replace
[10:04] <Peddy> maco, what temperature does your CPU average at?
[10:04] <maco> Peddy: right...
[10:04] <rabidweezle> anyone here have a dell latitude c610?
[10:04] <hashbrowns> maco: oh, okay. Thanks
[10:04] <Peddy> maco: under average load
[10:04] <maco> Peddy: um...it averages at "warmer than skin temperature"
[10:05] <hashbrowns> maco: reboot didn't change anything though... :(
[10:05] <maco> Peddy: i dont have lm-sensors installed
[10:05] <maco> hashbrowns: hey i ran out of ideas. i went into windows-troubleshooting-mode :P
[10:05] <maco> hashbrowns: oh wait
[10:05] <Peddy> okey maco :D
[10:05] <maco> hashbrowns: did a mouse chew through your cat5?
[10:05] <Peddy> wbu kop?
[10:05] <maco> hashbrowns: or your cat?
[10:05] <rabidweezle> after I made a script to keep slamming my laptop with i8kfan 2 2 every 10 seconds my laptop runs at 35c at all times now
[10:06] <hashbrowns> maco: no, least I dont think so.  I can still access other file servers on my lan
[10:06] <maco> hashbrowns: er...did your cat chew through your cat5? not "did a mouse chew through your cat?" :P
[10:06] <jim_p> !apt
[10:06] <hashbrowns> maco: i just cant get out of my lan onto the internet
[10:06] <kop> Peddy, -122.16541 x 47.14801
[10:07] <Peddy> 47 at full load?
[10:07] <maco> hashbrowns: i thought you couldnt reach your router eithr
[10:07] <kop> ok I have a "real" question - is there an easy way to determine cpu temp other than going to the bios ?
[10:07] <utremifasola> ok i loaded a .mp3 file in audacious and it's not playing what can i do to correct this?
[10:08] <hashbrowns> maco: no I can get to it. At least the configuration pages on it.
[10:08] <maco> hashbrowns: oh ok
[10:08] <E-XtraCt> when I press on the num keys and the num lock turn on the mouse pointer is moving by the number direction instead of writing the numbers, how can I fix it ?
[10:08] <maco> hashbrowns: well im out of ideas, and its after 5am here, so i'm going to sleep
[10:08] <hashbrowns> maco: do you think its something shady on comcast's end?
[10:09] <maco> E-XtraCt: try turning off num lock.the light might jut be wrong
[10:09] <E-XtraCt> maco, nope it's OK
[10:11] <rabidweezle> if I wanted to setup my .bashrc with fortune | cowsay, how would I do that so as soon as I logged into console it would do that?
[10:11] <utremifasola> i have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed but it won't play :<
[10:12] <mario> it!
[10:12] <mario> !it
[10:12] <rabidweezle> !.bashrc
[10:12] <kop> Peddy, wth install gkrellm (another resource whore) and board 24.2C proc1 - 45C proc2 - 40C
[10:13] <iklmn> how to change my ip addrees when i use irc ?
[10:13] <Peddy> ah
[10:14] <Peddy> kop, my ambient temperature is really hot as well ATM
[10:14] <kippy> iklmn, you can try TOR network to mask your IP
[10:14] <iklmn> kippy, is it working with irc ?
[10:14] <kop> Peddy, not to bad as my fan noise is only outstripped by my 10k scsi's
[10:15] <bazhang> !cloak > iklmn
[10:15] <Peddy> hahaha kop
[10:15] <kippy> iklmn, yes you would have to set your IRC client to use TOR
[10:15] <bazhang> !tor
[10:16] <bazhang> kippy, not on freenode largely though
[10:16] <Peddy> kop, how do you mean, 10k?
[10:16] <kippy> bazhang, ok :)
[10:16] <mgsloan> hey.. I'm currently using ubuntu via wubi, and i'm afraid i've set my partition too low
[10:17] <kop> Peddy,  PM
[10:17] <mgsloan> is it possible to exoand my wubi file?
[10:19] <kurisutofuaa> anyone know how to reset vlc to the default video setting through the CLI?
[10:20] <wayne> maco i copied that command into the terminal for java and flash player and its not working?
[10:20] <nbeebo_> whys this? http://www.2shared.com/file/4528438/12e18225/Screenshot-Image_Burning_Setup.html
[10:21] <kippy> I have a problem with Ubuntu boot, if I boot it normally the whole of progress bar loads and then there is no gdm just a black screen, however if i boot using recovery mode and then when recovey menu comes up i simple choose boot normally, then it boots ok. any suggestions what the problem could be?
[10:22] <wayne> hey how do i install java and flash player?
[10:22] <wayne> im new to linux
[10:22] <Gnea> !java | wayne
[10:22] <Gnea> !flash | wayne
[10:23] <wayne> ubottu someone gave me something to put in the terminal which i did
[10:23] <kippy> wayne, just go to system>administration>synaptic package manager, search for what you want to install, mark it and apply
[10:23] <pikario> hi, can i use /etc/network/interfaces to automatically connect to a wireless network?
[10:24] <kippy> yes wayne, ubottu is the bot, it's not human, people use it to provide newcomers some information
[10:24] <guestguestnew> i need networking help
[10:25] <guestguestnew> if anyone has the time pls PM me
[10:25] <Restos> +
[10:25] <hateball> !ask | guestguestnew
[10:26] <Broly> what is the ubuntu chat channel?
[10:26] <Jtuxin> hum
[10:26] <wayne> kippy when i did that this came up. E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:26] <wayne> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[10:26] <hateball> !ot | Broly
[10:26] <Broly> thanks hateball
[10:26] <janczech> heh
[10:28] <guestguestnew> can somebody pls help me. i connected a router to a router. the PCs connected to the router have an internet connection but i can't get synergy or giver to work
[10:28] <pikario> wayne
[10:28] <wayne> yeah?
[10:28] <rabidweezle> ugh, is there a way to fix a laptop hinge?
[10:29] <pikario> wayne, sudo apt-get sun-java6-jdk
[10:29] <pikario> wayne, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[10:29] <pikario> *
[10:29] <pikario> i need to go to bed
[10:29] <rabidweezle> I got this dell latitude 610 when I got out of the army in 07, and the hinge just snapped
[10:30] <phnom> rabidweezle, sudo aptitude reinstall hinge?
[10:30] <rabidweezle> mebbe lol
[10:30] <rabidweezle> I'm thinking maybe a hot glue gun
[10:31] <rabidweezle> is hotglue conductive/
[10:31] <rabidweezle> ?*
[10:32] <wayne> pikario i put that in the terminal and this came up again- E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:33] <rabidweezle> hrm, says on liquid nails site that some plastics can't be bonded with any type of glue :(
[10:33] <CaptainMorgan> !hcl
[10:33] <kippy> wayne, just run dpkg --configure -a and let it do what it says
[10:33] <kippy> and then you can use the apt-get or the synaptic package manager
[10:33] <pikario> so sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:35] <balleyne> I am missing /lib/modules/my-kernel/build/ -- what package do I need to install to get this?
[10:35] <wayne> umm this came up kippy- requested operation requires superuser privilege
[10:35] <CapaH> Can anyone here tell me why I am able to telnet to port 53 on a machine, but dig @that_ip_address fails? I have set up allow-query { any; }  listen-on { any; } ?
[10:35] <jemark> i've installed the latest fresh 2.6.28 kernel and my x3100 video performance improved a bit :)
[10:35] <pikario> wayne, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:36] <pikario> sudo = superuser privilege
[10:37] <kuperick> is there a way I can sandbox a known unreliable process?
[10:37] <kippy> yes wayne, as pikario said, use sudo dpkg --configure -a and then type in your password when it asks for, it will not echo back your password so just type it and press enter
[10:37] <kuperick> I have a bloody package on my system that cuts out sometime, I'd like to ensure that it cannot take down the system (and then log what happened)
[10:38] <kuperick> is there such a process sandboxing system besides a whole virtual machine?
[10:38] <kippy> kuperick, look into SELinux
[10:39] <kuperick> kippy, ok, so in this distro, does it use something to sandbox processes?
[10:39] <lozzaaa> quick question: where do i set 4 virtual desktops in 8.10?
[10:40] <lozzaaa> my cube is rather flat :/
[10:40] <kuperick> lozzaaa, add fusion icon and compiz advance settings - you can then load the cube icon, right click, settings, and change it all there
[10:41] <lozzaaa> aha
[10:41] <kuperick> yes, 8.10 defaults with a flat cube,  what the point, I know...
[10:41] <kippy> kuperick, it is not a distro but more of an approach to enhance the security of your linux system, It is Security Enhanced Linux and it goes further than the traditional unix file permissions to enhance security. You can create whitelists and blacklists allowing access to particular files and resources. I have no practical experience with it but acc to your situation I think this is what you need
[10:41] <mib_lhfram> how can i use apt-get to get wicd
[10:41] <kuperick> lozzaaa, you need two packages - the advanced settings, and fusion icon
[10:41] <lozzaaa> thanks :)
[10:41] <kibibyte> hi
[10:42] <kuperick> kippy, no, I don't need enhanced security - I don't care if it rages rampant on my disk, I just want to sandbox memory access and stop it from 'taking down' my system
[10:42] <kuperick> kippy, this has nothing to do with security
[10:42] <aboSamoor> how can I search for file in packages ?
[10:42] <kibibyte> i see process runing npviewr.bin and it uses 14 % CPU can you tell me what is it?
[10:42] <kibibyte> i see process runing npviewer.bin and it uses 14 % CPU can you tell me what is it?
[10:42] <Starnestommy> kibibyte: that npviewer.bin is flash
[10:42] <kuperick> I with there was a sandbox shell or something
[10:42] <kippy> kuperick, yeah i get it but it will allow sandboxing as well as far as i know
[10:42] <kibibyte> Starnestommy, how come
[10:42] <kuperick> kippy, no, I googled, found nothing about it
[10:43] <kuperick> and sandboxing isn't simple.... I need to run a process as if virtual, but with normal access - how does the sandbox know which access it will do that will crash the system (basically, why can a process take down my system?)
[10:43] <kippy> kuperick, okay sorry mate. I had read about it on ubuntu wiki
[10:43] <kuperick> no worries, just discussing
[10:44] <bas_kam> i want to update openoffice from 2.4.1 to 3.0, but in synapic this pkg is absent. on oo site i can get deb or rpm pkg - what better?
[10:44] <kuperick> but, I am not root, so why can this process run away like that? it isn't predictable, so I can't run certain tests
[10:45] <balleyne> bas_kam: deb definitely better, rpm is for red hat based systems
[10:45] <jigp> hello how to creat a directory listing? so that my friends can see all my files using http://123.456.7.8:port
[10:45] <kibibyte> red hat is shit
[10:45] <kibibyte> its like windows
[10:46] <balleyne> jigp: you could just use Apache if you want them visible via http in a browser? There are probably more sophisticated options though
[10:47] <guestguestnew> i have two PC's one with ubuntu, one with openSUSE. the ubuntu one sees the opensuse PC. but the opensuse PC does not see ubuntu
[10:47] <balleyne> anyone know what package I need to get stuff in my /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/build/ directory?
[10:47] <jigp> balleyne : I want them to see my files and also they can download php files.and also I can hide some important files so that they can't see it..
[10:47] <histo> What port does dns use?
[10:48] <jigp> balleyne : I have apache installed.and when I tried to visit my files using http:// all I can see is a txt like "it works"
[10:48] <histo> ahh nvm 53
[10:48] <jigp> histo : 53 udp
[10:48] <balleyne> jigp: ah, yeah, so there's an index.html in /var/www/ or something -- if you delete or rename that file, it'll display the directory listing
[10:49] <balleyne> jigp: Apache provides a default index file, it's only in the absence of an index file that Apache displays a directory listing
[10:49] <jigp> balleyne : http://192.168.0.8/ "it says IT works! "
[10:49] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> /var/www/html/ i think.
[10:50] <feng> my cpu usage is very high, one up to 100% when run nothing, cpu is tl58, amd64 x 2 1.9M , does anyone have the same problem?
[10:50] <harlemdavvey> hey guys hello everyone
[10:50] <jigp> balleyne : it says "it works!" but I don't see my home directory files or parent directory or index directory
[10:50] <harlemdavvey> can someone help me with the XFCE desktop environment???
[10:50] <histo> jigp, default apache is /var/www
[10:50] <aboSamoor> usually I try to search for style file in latex, but I am not sure in what package it is and it is not included in the name or description of any package, how can I search for a file in my repository ?
[10:51] <jigp> histo : what to do with /var/www?
[10:51] <balleyne> jigp: Right, so that "it works" is coming from an index.html file that Apache has, probably /var/www/index.html -- you need to rename or delete that file before you'll get a directory listing
[10:51] <histo> jigp, thats the default location for your html files with apache.  What are you trying to accomplish exactly
[10:51] <histo> jigp, nvm I just saw your first message
[10:51] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> wouldnt you change the directory in httpd.conf ?
[10:52] <jigp> balleyne : ok I saw it in /var/www the "index.html" delete it?
[10:52] <histo> jigp, you need to edit your apache configuration to share your home
[10:52] <dr_willis> setting up user personal web pages ia a httpd conf setting I thought, :)
[10:52] <balleyne> jigp: even when you do that though, it'll just give you a directory listing of that directory (/var/www/) -- so you'd put the files you'd want to share in there, or create a symlink or something
[10:52] <harlemdavvey> does someone have an idea on how to launch a terminal by shortcut on the xfce desktop environment????
[10:52] <balleyne> jigp: Yeah, you can delete it, or just rename it if you want
[10:52] <histo> jigp, then you could http://whatver/jigp  to see your homedirectory files
[10:52] <histo> jigp, err http://****/~jigp
[10:53] <dr_willis> harlemdavvey,   make a launcher that launches gnome-terminal or whatever terminal app you want. I forget how xfce makes launchers..  some right click menu
[10:53] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> kd3 is the name of the burning software right?
[10:54] <histo> jigp, follow the directions here http://dollarunderscore.wordpress.com/2007/05/19/local-directories-with-apache-on-ubuntu-704/ I'm assuming thats what you want ot do
[10:54] <balleyne> anyone know what package I need to install for /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/build to be created?
[10:55] <jigp> balleyne histo dr_willis thanks
[10:55] <dr_willis> CoUrPsE|DeAd,  i use 'k3b' under kde. :)
[10:55] <jigp> histo : but im using ubuntu kde 8.04
[10:55] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> ahh, k3b, ta.
[10:55] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> lol.
[10:55] <histo> jigp, thats okay those directions still apply if thats what you want to do.
[10:55] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> But im using gnome, any good software for gnome?
[10:56] <histo> CoUrPsE|DeAd, you can use kde apps in gnome
[10:56] <harlemdavvey1> could someone help me with my xfce desktop environment please??? 1- i would like to know how to launch the terminal by shortcut  2-i would like to know how to stop applications from working
[10:56] <dr_willis> CoUrPsE|DeAd,  theres burning apps for gnome.. or use k3b..
[10:56] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> thought so.
[10:56] <harlemdavvey1> could someone help me with my xfce desktop environment please??? 1- i would like to know how to launch the terminal by shortcut  2-i would like to know how to stop applications from working
[10:56] <histo> !bets | CoUrPsE|DeAd
[10:56] <harlemdavvey1> ?
[10:56] <harlemdavvey1> could someone help me with my xfce desktop environment please??? 1- i would like to know how to launch the terminal by shortcut  2-i would like to know how to stop applications from working?
[10:56] <jigp> this is nice tutorial histo. how about if I publish it to the net so that my friends can saw my php coded files like www.myip.com/~jigpe
[10:56] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> i'm right.
[10:56] <histo> !best | CoUrPsE|DeAd
[10:56] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> didnt ask for best, :P
[10:56] <dr_willis> harlemdavvey you have looked at the xfce docs/homepage/guides? its not too hard a desktop to figure out for #1.. and for #2 - your question is a bit vague
[10:56] <histo> jigp, yes.
[10:57] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> ask for good. Brasero just made frisbiees.
[10:57] <histo> jigp, or you could just put them in /var/www right now and they could see them at http://www.myip.com
[10:57] <jigp> CoUrPsE|DeAd : http://www.google.com.ph/search?q=software+for+gnome&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[10:57] <jigp> histo thanks :)
[10:57] <harlemdavvey1> hey i really cannot figure out how to launch  a terminal by shortcut
[10:57] <histo> jigp, those directions are for setting up a directory in your home that is shared on the webserver via username like www.myip.com/~jigp
[10:58] <histo> jigp, default set up is to just have the /var/www folder hold all the html docs so that www.myip.com just looks in /var/www on your computer.
[10:58] <balleyne> harlemdavvey1: have you tried right-clicking on the XFCE panel and adding a launcher?
[10:58] <jigp> CoUrPsE|DeAd : I use gnome brasero in kde desktop.works fine.
[10:58] <dr_willis> CoUrPsE|DeAd,  most all of the burnign apps are just front ends to the same identical backend cli tools...
[10:58] <harlemdavvey1> no, i just want to shortcut with my keyboards
[10:58] <harlemdavvey1> keyboard
[10:58] <harlemdavvey1> not from desktop
[10:58] <jigp> histo : I cannot delete the "index.html" using mouse right click..should be root or something
[10:58] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Humm k, so i need to be fixing something else then, thanks guys.
[10:59] <jigp> histo thanks for this http://dollarunderscore.wordpress.com/2007/05/19/local-directories-with-apache-on-ubuntu-704/ .. very nice step by step course
[10:59] <histo> jigp, you can use sudo to delete files in /var/www
[10:59] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Isnt renaming to -bak a better idea?
[10:59] <quickdev> Hey
[11:00] <jigp> histo : after deleting it I will copy and paste the files in /var/www right?
[11:00] <jigp> histo : no more coding?
[11:00] <histo> jigp, if you need root access to a /var/www in a file browser you can gksu nautilus
[11:00] <dr_willis> jigp,  for 'system' level alterations of files and stuff.. you MUST do so as the root user with sudo. or other ways..  be VERY VERY carefull with  rinning the file manager as root.
[11:01] <histo> jigp, you need to use sudo to put files in /var/www also.   The alternative is the directions in the link were you can edit the public_html in your home wiht out issues.
[11:01] <dr_willis> jigp,  i would suggest learning how to do root type tasks from the CLI. Much safer
[11:01] <szymo> wow
[11:01] <shiMMer> i cant run swscanner..got an error=[SIOCSIWMODE] 1: Operation not permitted
[11:01] <jigp> jigp@jigp:~$ gksu nautilus
[11:01] <jigp> Initializing nautilus-share extension
[11:01] <jigp> ** (nautilus:10752): WARNING **: Unable to add monitor: Operation not supported
[11:01] <jigp> SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSNautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error No such file or directory
[11:01] <szymo> witaj
[11:01] <FloodBot1> jigp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:01] <jigp> Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing.
[11:01] <szymo> o kurwa
[11:01] <sabgenton> !country code
[11:02] <quickdev> I've got problems with a Radeon X1900 and fglrx. The whole system freezes some minutes after booting. I read through the Ubuntu wiki and it told me to use agplock = 0, but dmesg prints "[fglrx:drm_parse_option] *ERROR* "agplock" is not a valid option". I tried both, manual fglrx install and the repository packages. Why is agplock invalid? Wrong fglrx version? (tried the newest)
[11:02] <sabgenton> where can I get a list of valid contry codes for the apt sources list
[11:02] <jigp> thank you guys
[11:03] <AMDMutant> jigp: optionally you chan chgrp with +w
[11:04] <jigp> AMDMutant what's the use of that chan chgrp with +w?
[11:04] <sabgenton> gb = great britian
[11:04] <sabgenton> etc
[11:05] <xorand> Someone please help.  I've managed to cause my toolbars to disappear on boot up.  I'm using 8.10.  The last thing that I did, I uninstalled evolution :( . I connect via 3G and am chatting via win xp atm.  Could someone tell me what to do to restore Ubuntu 8.10?  I've tried safe mode - it doesn't work.  I think if I could connect via command line 3G, I could re-install evolution.  I don't know how to connect to my 3G via command line
[11:06] <isle85> Hi, Need help to build a debian/watch file please
[11:08] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> heavy cristmas and metal new year :)
[11:08] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> can some1 help me
[11:08] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> i cant hear sound
[11:08] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> on more than 1 app
[11:08] <Noxz> Is there a specific channel for webcam help? I get poisitive input if I 'cat /dev/video0' like covering it up with my hand, and moving it around in light. but no webcam apps detect this data, some of them even crash, gstreamer-properties crash if v4l is selected, not v4l2 which says 'could not negotiate format'
[11:08] <CapaH> Can someone please tell me what port PING uses to ping? I need to 'allow' ping requests.. ? I need to enable that port.
[11:09] <amuro> Try_Hard_Go_Pro, killall pulseaudio
[11:09] <vishnu> problem after ubuntu8.10 installation only a black screen seen
[11:09] <xorand> Anyone know how to start a 3G connection from command line?
[11:09] <shiMMer> what best wireless driver for me??im using atheros ar5007eg..
[11:09] <pikario> vishnu.. move your mouse and touch the keys.. is it just the screensaver?
[11:09] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> amuro: how to do it
[11:10] <Seveas> xorand, why command line? It is possible with some wvdial magic but the gui is so much easier to use :)
[11:10] <hashbrowns> vishnu: do you have a shell prompt on your screen or is it completely black?
[11:10] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> amuro: with htop?
[11:10] <eltoro-lg> xorand,  wvdial ?
[11:10] <amuro> in terminal, type killall pulseaudio
[11:10] <vishnu> i am having a shell
[11:10] <amuro> this method for for me
[11:10] <hashbrowns> seveas: any other ideas as to how to fix that stupid networking problem?
[11:10] <xorand> My Ubuntu 8.10 is boken
[11:10] <amuro> work*
[11:10] <sabgenton> http://www.iso.org/iso/country_codes/iso_3166_code_lists/english_country_names_and_code_elements.htm
[11:10] <hashbrowns> vishnu: try startx
[11:10] <xorand> and I don't have access to internet from it
[11:10] <sabgenton> to answer my own question
[11:10] <Seveas> hashbrowns, one of your last comments before I left sounded a bit suspicious
[11:11] <mib_ayo4f8> how do I forward a port?
[11:11] <Seveas> you said you have 2 NIC's on the machine, both with static routing, right?
[11:11] <xorand> I need to start 3G from command line
[11:11] <xorand> I usually do it from the applet
[11:11] <hashbrowns> seveas: yes
[11:11] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> amuro: i don't think this will work
[11:11] <amuro> Try_Hard_Go_Pro, in terminal, killall pulseaudio... does it work for u there?
[11:11] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> amuro: i think
[11:11] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> it will stop every sound
[11:11] <amuro> Try_Hard_Go_Pro, try it, it works on my desktop and laptop
[11:11] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> why should
[11:11] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> i tyupe it
[11:11] <xorand> or, how do I startup my missing toolbars?
[11:12] <Seveas> hashbrowns, try with 1 nic first. Your router may be throwing a fit or there may be a routing issue somewhere
[11:12] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> amuro: ok
[11:12] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> i'll try
[11:12] <amuro> Try_Hard_Go_Pro, after killall, restart your appc
[11:12] <amuro> apps
[11:12] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> ok
[11:12] <Linuxer> with which command can i make an initrd image? ty
[11:13] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> nope
[11:13] <amuro> amuroray, testing
[11:13] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> still cant have sound
[11:13] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> on more than
[11:13] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> 1 app
[11:13] <hashbrowns> seveas: what, just unplug one of them?
[11:14] <amuro> then try goto preference | sound
[11:14] <mib_ayo4f8> I just want to forward incoming connections on a specific port to 192.168.192.128, 15 minutes googling and I am no closer to my goal
[11:14] <amuro> choose alsa for all options
[11:14] <Seveas> hashbrowns, yeah
[11:14] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> i tried
[11:14] <hashbrowns> vishnu: did that work for you?
[11:14] <joaopinto> Linuxer,  http://www.faqs.org/docs/evms/x3834.html
[11:15] <hashbrowns> sevea: nope, still no go.
[11:15] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> amuro: any other ideas
[11:15] <dr_willis> mib_ayo4f8,  dident find any iptables tutorials/examples?  or Firestarter/guarddog guides?     Or what were you googling for exactly?
[11:15] <vishnu> ubuntu8.10 is broken after upgradation
[11:15] <mib_ayo4f8> I do not understand the iptables examples
[11:16] <amuro> Try_Hard_Go_Pro, those methods work for me
[11:16] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> :(
[11:16] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> can anyone help me please
[11:16] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> maybe iptables-control ? seems handy for quick port forwarding between pc's.
[11:16] <amuro> Try_Hard_Go_Pro, which apps r u running?
[11:16] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> rithmbox and skype
[11:16] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> but i haven't restarted skype
[11:16] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> should i?
[11:17] <amuro> yes
[11:17] <dr_willis> mib_ayo4f8,  i guess one starts with some iptables tutorials then? or checks for some front end.   I was thinking  firestarter made it easy.  But ive not uised the stuff in 2+ years.
[11:17] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> w8
[11:17] <amuro> restarts them all
[11:17] <amuro> Try_Hard_Go_Pro, killall pulseaudio works for me
[11:17] <mib_ayo4f8> I do not have a gui
[11:17] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> nope
[11:17] <mib_ayo4f8> I do not have iptables-control
[11:17] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> the problem still exist
[11:17] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> exists*
[11:17] <amuro> Try_Hard_Go_Pro, u need to restarts all apps
[11:18] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:18] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> :D
[11:18] <amuro> no haha
[11:18] <hashbrowns> seveas: any other ideas?
[11:18] <Blinkiz> After a clean installation of hardy it took about 20MB of RAM according htop. Intrepid takes around 100MB of RAM. What is the difference here? What does the 2.6.27 kernel do so htop says it's using 100MB of RAM?
[11:18] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> i'm llazy
[11:18] <jigp> hello am I correct? ssh jigpe@ip.com?
[11:18] <jigp> its not working
[11:18] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> well i restarted everything without the chat
[11:18] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> :D
[11:19] <joaopinto> Blinkiz, you mean a minimal install without a windows manager ?
[11:19] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> brb
[11:19] <joaopinto> jigp, can you ping ip.com ?
[11:19] <Blinkiz> joaopinto, yeah, forgot to write that
[11:20] <jigp> joaopinto yeah and it works
[11:20] <pikario> what is the default network configuration application with ubuntu
[11:20] <mib_ayo4f8> could someone give me the iptables string to forward port 3389 to 192.168.192.128?
[11:20] <gigi> hi
[11:20] <gigi> hiii
[11:20] <sabgenton> !apt get update
[11:20] <joaopinto> Blinkiz, is not about the kernel, most likely about some default service that is beeing installed on the newer version
[11:21] <sabgenton> what does apt get update acutall get?
[11:21] <kop> !apt-get update
[11:21] <sabgenton> whats the path to what it gets
[11:21] <amuroray> Try_Hard_Go_Pro, there?
[11:21] <angelo> ciao
[11:21] <hashbrowns> seveas: you know, after having to fight with ubuntu for several days now i'm probably going to have to fight with it more when installing the restricted drivers
[11:21] <amuroray> Try_Hard_Go_Pro, did u fix your sound problem?
[11:22] <angelo> !list
[11:22] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> mib_ayo4f8,  //sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -i eth0 -d 192.168.192.168 --dport 3389 -j ACCEPT
[11:22] <Blinkiz> joaopinto, I think you are wrong there. I don't believe ubuntu server them want to jump from 20MB to 100MB. That's a big difference...
[11:22] <Blinkiz> them = team
[11:22] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Assuming your forwarding on eth0.
[11:23] <mib_ayo4f8> you are a gentleman and a scholar
[11:23] <shams> when ubuntu port openoffice 3 in its repository?
[11:23] <pikario> is nm-applet or network-manager the default application with ubuntu for managing networks
[11:23] <joaopinto> Blinkiz, that would be a "regular" behavior if the package selection was changed, the same change at the kernel level, would be insane :)
[11:24] <hashbrowns> I can't get my networking on ubuntu to work correctly.  I can connect to my router and everything on my LAN but I cannot get to websites on the internet (google.com, yahoo.com, etc).  Do you guys have any ideas about how to fix this?
[11:24] <sabgenton> !index files
[11:24] <joaopinto> Blinkiz, and it is very unlikely that you had a 20MB mem usage, just the plain kernel usually uses more than that
[11:25] <dr_willis> hashbrowns,  basic trouble shooting.. Can you ping the router, can you ping a web site based on its ip, but not its name?  tell the channel the results of those 2 tests
[11:25] <Blinkiz> joaopinto, nope, in fact, am having 14MB usage on hardy server
[11:25] <mib_ayo4f8> do I need to restart anything for it to take effect?
[11:26] <hashbrowns> dr_willis: I can ping the router, but no websites
[11:26] <dr_willis> hashbrowns,  ping google.com    vs   ping 74.125.45.100                  If the first fails and the 2nd works.. = dns issues Most likely
[11:26] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> you may have to restart ip tables, sudo service iptables restart
[11:26] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Humm, nm that.
[11:26] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> no service iptables.
[11:26] <mib_m7613mvp> can someone please help me apt-get wicd
[11:27] <lianimator> has anyone tried installing skype with wine?
[11:27] <lianimator> I want version 3.x
[11:27] <dr_willis> !appdb | lianimator
[11:27] <FreeFull> Whether I attempt to run a 3D program, I get this error: ADVANCE_BATCH: 120 of 160 dwords emitted
[11:27] <bidossessi> what do you use to download a video from youtube, exept miro?
[11:28] <FreeFull> Then the programs aborts
[11:28] <hashbrowns> dr_willis: both of those pings failed
[11:28] <FreeFull> Can you help me?
[11:28] <dr_willis> hashbrowns,  this is a wired or wireless network?
[11:28] <mib_m7613mvp> can someone pls help me apt-get wicd
[11:28] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> amuroray: nope
[11:29] <dr_willis> hashbrowns,  if both fail. Hmm. that sounds like the gateway/default route  is not set proplery on the machine.
[11:29] <hashbrowns> dr_willis: well the router that i go through is wired and the machine is wired but there is a wireless portion of the lan im on
[11:29] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> apt-get install wicd
[11:29] <bidossessi> hashbrowns, type "route" in a console to see if your gateway is correctly setup
[11:30] <hashbrowns> gateway just reports as "*"
[11:30] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> mib_m7613mvp: try apt-get install wicd
[11:30] <himanet> hi every bady
[11:30] <himanet> any women her
[11:30] <hashbrowns> bidossessi: except for one destination entry: default   gateway:  192.168.0.1
[11:30] <bidossessi> hashbrowns, paste the result of that command in pastebin
[11:30] <hashbrowns> bidossessi: how can I do that?
[11:31] <bidossessi> hashbrowns, i will suppose that 192.168.0.1 is your modem router...
[11:31] <hashbrowns> hidossessi: I cant pipe it there, no internet on that machine
[11:31] <hashbrowns> bidossessi: yes
[11:31] <mib_ayo4f8> it still doesn't seem to work, I have a virtual windows machine listening for an rdp connection, but it's not connecting
[11:32] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> mib* To make things easyier, you could change to a real nickname so people dont get confused trying to help.
[11:32] <bidossessi> hashbrowns, try "tail /etc/resolv.conf" to see if your router is also set as your nameserver
[11:32] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> i have problem with sound.i can't have more than one app with sound
[11:33] <joaopinto> Try_Hard_Go_Pro, have you changed your sound settings to use pulseaudio ?
[11:33] <mib_m7613mvp> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ok
[11:33] <bidossessi> hashbrowns, does your machine get an ip address from the router?
[11:33] <mib_m7613mvp> Try_Hard_Go_Pro: doesn't work
[11:33] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> joaopinto: how do i do that
[11:33] <mib_m7613mvp> Try_Hard_Go_Pro: i was told that i have to add the repositories somehow?
[11:33] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> RDPguy, Did ya get the iptables restarted?
[11:34] <hashbrowns> bidossessi: no, there are three nameserver entries: 68.87.68.162, 68.87.74.162, 68.87.64.196
[11:34] <joaopinto> Try_Hard_Go_Pro, System -> Preferences -> Sounds
[11:34] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> what distro u r using
[11:34] <joaopinto> Try_Hard_Go_Pro, if you are asking here, you are expected to be using Ubuntu....
[11:34] <FreeFull> Whether I attempt to run a 3D program, I get this error: "ADVANCE_BATCH: 120 of 160 dwords emitted" and then the program terminates. Can anybody help?
[11:34] <hashbrowns> bidossessi: yes it does acquire an IP address
[11:34] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> :)
[11:34] <shams> can anyone tell me what is launchpad.net ?
[11:34] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> im in ubu spx
[11:34] <joaopinto> FreeFull, that error is specific to that program, what program is it ?
[11:35] <bidossessi> hashbrowns, maybe doing a "echo nameserver 192.168.0.1 >> /etc/resolv.conf " will fix your issue there
[11:35] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> when i set all to pulseaudio
[11:35] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> should i
[11:35] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> restart
[11:35] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> everything
[11:35] <xota> flgx freezes my ubuntu 8.04. how Can i solve it easilly?
[11:35] <FreeFull> joaopinto: It happens with every 3D program when it attempts to display 3D
[11:35] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> RDPguy, sudo iptables -L
[11:35] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> and see if ya port is allowed there.
[11:35] <joaopinto> shams, check by yourself, www.launchpad.net, it's a place where you can report bugs for ubuntu, among other things
[11:35] <joaopinto> FreeFull, oh :\
[11:36] <hashbrowns> bidossessi: i did that and I got permission denied.  do i need to do that as root?
[11:36] <bidossessi> hashbrowns, yes
[11:36] <saler> sudo
[11:36] <joaopinto> hashbrowns, or sudo echo nameserver 192.168.0.1 | tee /etc/resolv.conf
[11:37] <seria-mau> hi
[11:37] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Its usually best to use your isp's nameservers in resolv.conf incase ya router brings back incorrect dns's.
[11:37] <shams> joaopinto: it says: Failed to Connect
[11:37] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> joapinto: when everything is on pulseaudio
[11:37] <mib_m7613mvp> how do i add repositiories to apt-get for wicd
[11:37] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> sometimes they return 1.0.0.0 on lookups.
[11:37] <hashbrowns> bidossessi: no that didnt work
[11:38] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> i cant get even sound
[11:38] <FreeFull> joaopinto: Seems to be a problem with my graphics drivers, because when I use drivers with no acceleration like the framebuffer driver, 3D programs work (but slowlu)
[11:38] <seria-mau> i have a problem with evolution. it crashes everytime i click on ok in my account setup dialog and gives this error notice: (evolution:5718): e-data-server-CRITICAL **: e_account_set_string: assertion `ea != NULL' failed
[11:38] <seria-mau> Segmentation fault
[11:38] <joaopinto> shams, https://launchpad.net/
[11:38] <joaopinto> if it fails to connect, you have a network configuration/connectivity problem
[11:38] <Assargadon> Hi. Are there any OCR systems I can use in Ubuntu?
[11:39] <bidossessi> hashbrowns, can you ping the router from that machine
[11:39] <Assargadon> I ties ocrad...but I failed to get any usefull results from it
[11:39] <hashbrowns> bidossessi: yes
[11:39] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> hashbrowns, Sorry to butt in, but have you tried putting your ISP's nameserver ip's in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[11:39] <benben> seria-mau: I can't find an OK button on account setup dialog
[11:40] <FreeFull> Whether I attempt to run any 3D program, I get this error: "ADVANCE_BATCH: 120 of 160 dwords emitted" and then the program terminates. Can anybody help?
[11:40] <bidossessi> hashbrowns, stands to reason that your issue is dns based. try restarting your network on that machine to activate the changes
[11:40] <joaopinto> Assargadon, yes, just search for "OCR" on the package manager, there are some OCR apps
[11:40] <bidossessi> if you haven't done it already
[11:40] <mlikos> salut tous le monde
[11:40] <joaopinto> FreeFull, that is a very uncommon error, better google for it
[11:40] <allsystemsarego> !fr | mlikos
[11:40] <hashbrowns> courpse|dead: no, where can I find out the dns IPS for comcast?
[11:40] <FreeFull> joaopinto: I did. Only got results from two sites, giving source code to something
[11:40] <mlikos> hi
[11:40] <Assargadon> joaopinto: thanks, I'll try. I tried "text recognition" before
[11:40] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> google comcast, or ring the help desk?
[11:40] <Assargadon> somewhy :)
[11:41] <benben> seria-mau: do you mean the account editor dialog?
[11:41] <hashbrowns> bidossessi: do you mean restart the computer or reset my router and stuff?
[11:41] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> hashbrowns, Are you on the same router now?
[11:41] <bidossessi> hashbrowns, not the router, just the unresponsive machine
[11:41] <hashbrowns> courpse|dead: HA! comcast customer service sucks
[11:41] <hashbrowns> courpse|dead: yes
[11:41] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Then router aint at fault.
[11:41] <joaopinto> FreeFull, is that an Intel video card ?
[11:41] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> try googleing them.
[11:41] <hashbrowns> bidossesi: restarting now
[11:41] <FreeFull> joaopinto: yes
[11:41] <seria-mau> benben, dunno. it's all in german here so don't start nitpicking on designators, please
[11:41] <allsystemsarego> hashbrowns, in case of doubt, use OpenDNS
[11:42] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> joapinto i still have the problem
[11:42] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> what should i do
[11:42] <seria-mau> benben, "account setup dialog" as in "a dialog where i set up my account settings"
[11:42] <arrust> salve a tutti
[11:42] <mlikos> i'm looking for someone to help me
[11:42] <allsystemsarego> !it | arrust
[11:42] <joaopinto> FreeFull, there is a bug reported about it: http://www.mail-archive.com/dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg37229.html
[11:43] <hashbrowns> allsystemsarego: openDNS doesnt resolve regular tlds or do they?
[11:43] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> hashbrowns, May i pm you some nameservers?
[11:43] <allsystemsarego> hashbrowns, yes, they do
[11:43] <FreeFull> joaopinto: Thanks
[11:43] <benben> seria-mau: have you tried to delete the account and create a new one?
[11:43] <hashbrowns> courpse|dead: sure, just tell me what to do with them
[11:44] <seria-mau> benben, i installed ubuntu today and this is my newly created account
[11:44] <xota> what ati drivers do u recommend to me over a ubuntu 8.04?
[11:44] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> sudo /etc/resolve.conf
[11:44] <FreeFull> joaopinto: That doesn't seem to be exactly the same bug
[11:44] <seria-mau> benben, i created it with the wizard which comes when you start evolution the first time
[11:44] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Sorry.
[11:44] <benben> seria-mau: ya try to delete that account, then create a new one see if the problem persists
[11:45] <hashbrowns> bidossessi: restart didnt work
[11:45] <bidossessi> isn't resolv.conf autmoatically edited by networkmanager?
[11:45] <orly_owl> Which countries sell the Dell mini 9 and 12 with Ubuntu?
[11:45] <seria-mau> benben, i think i will just file a bug in launchpad. the account works now (it started asking me for a password, didnt work before) so i dont have to change anything but can preserve this state to give a bugreport and reproduce the issue
[11:46] <seria-mau> benben, but thanks for your help :)
[11:46] <benben> seria-mau: no worries
[11:47] <grobda24> Are T-Mobile USB Mobile Internet USB sticks functional with Ubuntu ?
[11:48] <mrwes> re
[11:48] <hashbrowns> bidossessi: well at the top of my resolv.conf file # generate by NetworkManager
[11:48] <sari> asd
[11:48] <sari> asda
[11:49] <sari> well thrown in the questions lets see!!
[11:50] <mib_t8mn4o> where are the linux kernel sources at? how do i use apt-get to get the latest stable linux kernel sources?
[11:50] <dr_willis> !kernel
[11:50] <mib_t8mn4o> ( in gentoo its in /usr/src/linux but i cannot seem to find that folder)
[11:51] <em123> hi
[11:52] <sari> hello em123
[11:52] <em123> hii have trouble with virtualbox when i try install ubuntu
[11:52] <unop_> !kernel source | mib_t8mn4o
[11:52] <em123> hello sari
[11:52] <sari> :)
[11:52] <mib_t8mn4o> ubottu: im trying to rebuild the kernel source
[11:52] <sari> whats the problem
[11:52] <mib_t8mn4o> ubottu: robots have feelings
[11:53] <praktikum> elp
[11:53] <saler> :)
[11:53] <unop_> mib_t8mn4o, you're trying to build the kernel or the kernel source???
[11:53] <mib_t8mn4o> unop_: sorry - trying to build the kernel - its 2.6.24 now and i want 2.6.27
[11:53] <em123> i cant access host files from virtual machine, how to do?
[11:54] <unop_> mib_t8mn4o, and you on intrepid??
[11:54] <mib_t8mn4o> em123: remotely?
[11:54] <mib_t8mn4o> unop_: no
[11:54] <mib_t8mn4o> unop_: hardy heron
[11:54] <em123> no, locally
[11:55] <unop_> mib_t8mn4o, ok, backport the linux-image package from intrepid to hardy then
[11:55] <unop_> !prevu | mib_t8mn4o
[11:55] <bidossessi> hashbrowns, you might want to reconfigure the network connection, using the tool provided by ubuntu then. i think setting everything to roaming is a pretty safe allrounder, unless you have specific setups that require something else
[11:55] <mib_t8mn4o> unop_: thanks so much
[11:56] <em123> i googled and know need install additional function, that is included in *addition*.iso under the vbox home directory
[11:56] <CapaH> I am having problems with bind/dns - When I run a dig @dns_server_ip <domain> -- it works perfectly and has an identical output to the old dns server. However, there is one difference: Where the other one says: ;; Answer Section \n domain.com. 200 IN A <correct ip> --- This new one says 259200 instead of 200 - Does anyone know what the problem is?
[11:56] <em123> but when i click on menuitem, the virtual cdrom device dont alter to the *addition*.iso
[11:57] <mib_t8mn4o> unop_: do you know what the right package name for madwifi is to pass to apt-get?
[11:57] <unop_> CapaH, does it do the same thing with a new domain (one you haven't dug yet)
[11:57] <CapaH> checking
[11:57] <em123> help me, gods
[11:57] <saler> wat
[11:58] <CapaH> No it does not unop
[11:58] <saler> em123,wa ur problem
[11:58] <unop_> !info madwifi | mib_t8mn4o,
[11:58] <em123> saler,
[11:58] <unop_> !info madwifi-tools | mib_t8mn4o,
[11:58] <em123> i cant access host files from virtual machine, how to do?
[11:58] <CapaH> also I changed the serial # (added one) each time before I do /etc/init.d/bind9 restart
[11:58] <em123> i googled and know need install additional function, that is included in *addition*.iso under the vbox home directory
[11:58] <em123> but when i click on menuitem, the virtual cdrom device dont alter to the *addition*.iso
[11:58] <unop_> CapaH, so it's just for one domain that the time is off??
[11:59] <Igramul> Is there a program for Ubuntu that detects cache files (browser caches, google earth caches, 'trash bins', windows page files)? I'd need this for backup optimization.
[11:59] <CapaH> unop: is that number time? Because its nowhere to be found in the actual zone file
[11:59] <em123> saler, do you know what's my problem?
[11:59] <saler> em123,VM ,in the same computer or in other PC
[11:59] <CapaH> I believe that it is some bind - numeric code that has a meaning, like 200 means something, and 900 means something (apparently invalid domain) - etc
[12:00] <em123> saler, in the same pc
[12:00] <unop_> are you referring to the number in a line like this.   example.com.   200     IN      A       w.x.y.z
[12:00] <unop_> ?
[12:00] <unop_> CapaH, ^^
[12:01] <em123> if i run another livecd that have x window, it is ok
[12:01] <CapaH> yes unop
[12:01] <klopapier> hi there
[12:01] <saler> em123, u can acces the host file "no in the default directory " or it is not there"
[12:01] <CapaH> instead of saying 200 it says 259200
[12:01] <ardchoille> When I resize a window, I'd like to see the dimensions, is this possible?
[12:01] <klopapier> can somebody help me out with some xubuntu issues?
[12:01] <benben> Igramul, not one I've heard of but can't you manually exclude those directories?
[12:02] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  some window managers ahve that features.. others dont.. Not sure if Metacity/gnome has or not. :P
[12:02] <unop_> CapaH, that's the time the lookup was cached by the server - you should notice it decrease every time you do a lookup on the domain
[12:02] <ardchoille> klopapier: the best place for that is #xubuntu
[12:02] <klopapier> thx
[12:02] <klopapier> :P
[12:02] <ardchoille> dr_willis: i think metacity doesn't :/
[12:02] <em123> saler, i want to access any shared file
[12:02] <unop_> CapaH, there's nothing unusual about that .. one of your machines probably did a lookup on the domain sometime ago and has cached the result
[12:02] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  i would not be suprised at that.
[12:02] <ardchoille> me either
[12:03] <dr_willis> ardchoille, may be some compiz addon for it. :) Ewwww
[12:03] <BinaryBoy001> Hi, I'm having a problem in regards to playing mp3s ripped from music CDs.  I have all the codecs installed.  The problem is that whenever I try to play an mp3, my music player freezes up.  What can I do to fix this problem??
[12:03] <Igramul> benben, I could, but I would need to keep those exclusions up to date. I was looking for some program that applies rules on file names and content.
[12:03] <em123> google tell me must install additional functions
[12:03] <CapaH> unop_: dig @ns0.clickalyzer.com clickalyzer.com   vs: dig @ns2.clickalyzer.com clickalyzer.com --- my registrar is complaining that ns2.clickalyzer.com is not set up properly and that I cannot set it as a primary nameserver.
[12:03] <em123> but i cant install them
[12:03] <CapaH> http://pastebin.ca/1294483 <--- zone file
[12:03] <ardchoille> dr_willis: I just got rid of compiz because it slowed the system down too much
[12:04] <saler> em123, do use NAT config for ur VM
[12:04] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  try replaceingmetacity with oneof the XXXbox's or some other window manager perhaps if its a MUST ahve feature
[12:04] <em123> i have said, if run another livecd that have x window, i can installed additional function
[12:04] <ardchoille> dr_willis: good idea, was looking at openbox
[12:05] <benben> Igramul, sounds like a real hard problem to recognise cache files. But if somehow know the file name convention for, say, firefox, you can write a small script to find it out
[12:05] <em123> in fact, i am running a minimal linux livecd that have NO window,
[12:05] <em123> that is differenence
[12:05] <benben> Igramul, and you can assume a folder under the name of cache will be cache
[12:05] <unop_> CapaH, is this the zone file you created on ns2 itself ?? or was it updated on ns2 by a zone transfer?
[12:05] <em123> saler, i have use nat config
[12:06] <CapaH> unop: I created the file
[12:06] <CapaH> .... a zone transfer sounds interesting - can I tell one server to copy a zone from another? if so how
[12:07] <CapaH> I have a working dns server and I am changing dedicated server providers
[12:07] <em123> does the additional function ISO cant been load without a X window environment?
[12:07] <em123> does the additional function ISO cant been loaded without a X window environment? GODS, help me
[12:08] <saler> em123,the share problme between windows and VM machaine it known problem and mic not fixed try to cheat ,share folder from win and try to access the file from linux
[12:08] <unop_> CapaH, a zone transfer happens between DNS servers in the same domain i.e. when a primary updates a secondary, etc
[12:08] <dr_willis> em123,  last i looked the virtualbox guest addations - were avilable in a ubuntu package..    and yes you can install them from a terminal I belive..
[12:08] <Starnestommy> em123: could you please rephrase your question?
[12:08] <CapaH> unop: I see - nothing like that. I just basically created a new zone file, and set up bind on the new dedicated server
[12:09] <dr_willis> em123,  there alsy may be premade virtualbox ' images' of ubuntu out on the net that include such tweaks
[12:09] <em123> wait 20 mintutes, thanks
[12:10] <IchigoMorino> When I insert an audio CD of mine and try to open it with Rubyripper it says "no disk found", when I try to open it with Nautilus it gives me "Unable to mount location...Can't mount file"
[12:10] <unop_> CapaH, wait, ns0 lists your domain alright but ns2 doesn't - why is that? did you create a separate zonefile for ns0 ??
[12:10] <dr_willis> IchigoMorino,  you dont mount audio cd's
[12:11] <CapaH> unop: they have a separate zonefile
[12:11] <kashanki> hi
[12:11] <dr_willis> IchigoMorino,  i do recall some extas/extensions that made an audio cd appear to the file manager as a disk full of .wav and .mp3 and .flac files..
[12:11] <kashanki> imaninalla
[12:11] <IchigoMorino> dr_willis: You might be thinking of Konqueror.
[12:11] <IchigoMorino> dr_willis: But what really baffles me is why Rubyripper says there is no CD.
[12:11] <dr_willis> IchigoMorino,  i think i saw a similer thing for gnome.. but its been ages
[12:12] <unop_> CapaH, that's odd - usually you only update a zone file on the primary server - and it updates every other DNS server for that domain (via a zone Xfer)
[12:12] <dr_willis> IchigoMorino,  i would guess its looking at the wrong /dev/XXXXX entry
[12:12] <ttmrichter> Anybody here who can help out with an Xorg problem going from Hardy to Intrepid?
[12:13] <IchigoMorino> dr_willis: I have it set to /dev/cdrom, and it is telling me there is no CD in /dev/scd0, I assume those are the same device?
[12:13] <unop_> CapaH, regardless - the fact that ns2 now doesn't return anything for your domain indicates that there's an error somewhere (probably within the zone file you created on it)
[12:13] <dr_willis> IchigoMorino,  /dev/cdrom is a LINK to some other /dev/ entry.. that may be incorrect.
[12:13] <CapaH> unop: It does for me. Does it for you? dig @ns2.clickalyzer.com clickalyzer.com
[12:13] <kromium> hi can I install in text mode using live CD ?
[12:13] <unop_> CapaH, that doesn't return anything for me
[12:13] <CapaH> ... really
[12:14] <dr_willis> kromium,  i do not think so
[12:14] <CapaH> unop: Can you ping ns2.clickalyzer.com ? can you telnet to ns2.clickalyzer.com on port 53 ?
[12:14] <kromium> my systems is not able to load the graphics maybe a display driver problem, any workaround using live cd?
[12:14] <IchigoMorino> dr_willis: How do I find out which device my optical drive is?
[12:15] <dr_willis> kromium,  perhaps. i would check the forums for your specifi machine and kernel options.
[12:15] <kromium> pl
[12:15] <kromium> ok
[12:15] <dr_willis> IchigoMorino,  carelfully examine dmesg command output is one way.. Or pop in a data disk and see what gets mounted where, (or dmesg command again)
[12:15] <unop_> CapaH, the server is alive alright but not returning anything
[12:16] <unop_> CapaH, hmm
[12:16] <CapaH> it works for me from various locations... strange
[12:16] <mrwes> waves to dr_willis
[12:16] <unop_> CapaH, yea strange - this does ok tho.  dig @174.129.241.124 clickalyzer.com
[12:17] <CapaH> ah I think I know why
[12:18] <CapaH> ... maybe I have to tell it in options to allow-query ns2 and ns3 explicitly
[12:18] <unop_> CapaH, hmm, now every nameserver returns the same query - no difference at all
[12:18] <CapaH> oh
[12:18] <CapaH> maybe there is just a time delay for propagation to occur
[12:18] <CapaH> seems strange though
[12:19] <CapaH> so unop, for you, ns2.clickalyzer.com ns3.clickalyzer.com are fully functioning, working nameservers right?
[12:19] <unop_> CapaH, yea, you'd expect that if you had zone transfers happening - but it doesn't look like you are
[12:19] <nagyv> hello! could someone tell me an easy way to start a gnome panel applet? I've found the python executable that is The applet itself, but it won't run "normally"
[12:19] <unop_> CapaH, right, that's what i see now, yea
[12:19] <mib_o3fuu7> hello
[12:19] <utremifasola> hawwo
[12:20] <ryker8> hello?
[12:20] <mib_o3fuu7> recently I've seem to have lost my wlan0 inteface - have the madwifi drivers but wlan0 isn't showing up in ifconfig or iwconfig
[12:20] <unop_> mib_o3fuu7, did you recently do a kernel upgrade? :)
[12:20] <mib_o3fuu7> ar5007EG NIC
[12:20] <mib_o3fuu7> unop_: unop_ i decided it wasnt necessary
[12:21] <mib_o3fuu7> this is for my frien
[12:21] <mib_o3fuu7> its for my friends computer so im trying to get through this as fast as possible because i have a lot of coding to do
[12:22] <unop_> mib_o3fuu7, well, did your friend do a kernel upgrade??  also, is the interface listed in  ifconfig -a ?
[12:22] <IchigoMorino> dr_willis: The output of dmesg is huge, where do I look?
[12:22] <jokerledger> .
[12:23] <mib_o3fuu7> unop_: i was going to do a kernel upgrade but i changed my mind - ifconfig -a is only showing eth0 and lo
[12:23] <unop_> mib_o3fuu7, try this.   sudo modprobe ath_pci
[12:23] <unop_> mib_o3fuu7, then check if the interface is visible?
[12:24] <mib_o3fuu7> unop_: yes its loaded
[12:24] <mrwes> IchigoMorino: try dmesg | tail
[12:24] <unop_> mib_o3fuu7, looks like you don't have the module loading at boot .. make sure it has an entry in /etc/modules
[12:24] <imaginen1> Anybody knows what is the best port scanner?
[12:24] <mib_o3fuu7> unop_: bash: cd: /etc/modules: Not a directory
[12:25] <unop_> !best > imaginen1
[12:25] <Igorot> imaginen1: nmap for me
[12:25] <unop_> mib_o3fuu7, it's a file not a directory
[12:25] <joot> IchigoMorino: my optical drive shows on the desktop under "places"
[12:25] <mib_o3fuu7> unop_: oh right, ath_pci is in it though
[12:25] <sybux> hi all
[12:25] <IchigoMorino> mrwes: Could  /dev/sr0 be a valid optical drive?
[12:26] <unop_> mib_o3fuu7, odd, what does this give you?    lsmod | grep -i ath
[12:27] <mib_o3fuu7> honda@honda-laptop:/etc$ lsmod | grep -i ath ath_pci               101024  0  wlan                  207728  1 ath_pci ath_hal               192592  1 ath_pci
[12:27] <sybux> I've got an issue when accessing my SmartCard. Every time I read data on it, my ubuntu become very slow. Is there a special thing to configure to hurry up the data rate ?
[12:27] <unop_> mib_o3fuu7, hmm, everything seems alright - does the interface not come up after every boot? or was this just a one off?
[12:28] <mib_o3fuu7> unop_: unop_ every time
[12:28] <mib_o3fuu7> im going to reboot and check with ifconfig -a again
[12:28] <IchigoMorino> dr_willis: The drive is /dev/scd0, I am positive. But Rubyripper still says no audio CD is there.
[12:28] <mib_o3fuu7> brb
[12:28] <unop_> mib_o3fuu7, is there anything relating to it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ?
[12:30] <sybux> I've got an issue when accessing my SmartCard. Every time I read data on it, my ubuntu become very slow. Is there a special thing to configure to hurry up the data rate ?
[12:31] <CapaH> Is there anyone here who can tell me why ns0.clickalyzer.com works as a valid nameserver for clickalyzer.com - but ns2.clickalyzer.com - for some reason - my registrar complains it is an invalid nameserver? Both appear valid/working fine to me. dig @ns2.clickalyzer.com clickalyzer.com and dig @ns0.clickalyzer.com clickalyzer.com - I do not see any reason it should fail?
[12:33] <wolfeySI> hello guys.. i wonder if i can do anything about my "problem" ... well unreal tournament 2004 crashes awfully lot... SIGSEGV... i think i have latest patch and everything
[12:33] <wolfeySI> i use ubuntu beta if that makes difference
[12:33] <guestguestnew> how do i automatically startup an app(synergy) before logging in?
[12:33] <Slart> wolfeySI: you've checked the application database for wine?
[12:34] <wolfeySI> Slart: it's native
[12:34] <Slart> wolfeySI: or it has a native linux client?
[12:34] <Slart> wolfeySI: oh.. sweet..I mean.. not that it's crashing.. but the native client =)
[12:34] <unop_> guestguestnew, does synergy have to be started as root or as your user?
[12:34] <wolfeySI> Slart: i switched to beta some time ago cause my wireless is only supported .27 .. can i switch back to standard now?
[12:34] <wolfeySI> Slart: yah that's why that's only game i ever paid for
[12:34] <wolfeySI> and it's still worth it;)
[12:34] <Slart> wolfeySI: which version are you running?
[12:35] <guestguestnew> unop_: either way will as long as its up right away so my other pc can connect to it
[12:35] <Slart> wolfeySI: =) might even buy a copy.. just en encourage them..
[12:35] <wolfeySI> Slart: says 8.10 at console, what else can i say.. it is beta i think
[12:35] <sybux> I've got an issue when accessing my SmartCard. Every time I read data on it, my ubuntu become very slow. Is there a special thing to configure to hurry up the data rate ?
[12:36] <Slart> wolfeySI: if you've done your updates and such the beta install will turn into a real install when it's available
[12:36] <wolfeySI> Slart: oh ok
[12:36] <wolfeySI> i update everything that's offered
[12:36] <unop_> guestguestnew, well, you can start it just after logging on with the session properties dialog in gnome - or you can use the /etc/rc.local script (but if synergy is to be started as a normal user you have to be careful and start it with sudo)
[12:37] <unop_> guestguestnew,  i.e.  sudo -u username /path/to/synergy
[12:37] <brutus> hey...there's something wrong with my nvidia driver or card.....it was working fine till now when my screen just suddenly started showing weird colors and pixels...whats wrong??
[12:37] <guestguestnew> unop_: huh?
[12:37] <wefefvvv> What should I send to irc server when irc say :freenode-connect!freenode@freenode/bot/connect PRIVMSG wefefvvv :VERSION
[12:37] <sybux> brutus : check your cable connection
[12:37] <wolfeySI> Slart: it's not that i cant play game... but it crashes once...twice an hour... i kinda suspect it crashes when i try to move when it already lags a bit... like network buffer overflow
[12:37] <DawnLight> hello. legal question: would advertising myself as an ubuntu service provider (installation, support, etc.) be a violation of the ubuntu trademark?
[12:38] <brutus> sybux, what has the cable got to do with my display?
[12:38] <unop_> guestguestnew, something you didn't understand?
[12:38] <guestguestnew> unop_: i did the sudo -u thing
[12:38] <sybux> brutus : you know, the data to the screen need to be pass throw y cable. It's not wireless from now
[12:39] <guestguestnew> unop_: what command do i put on rc.local? sudo synergys or just plain synergys?
[12:39] <allsystemsarego> DawnLight, I don't think so, people do it all the time with other software brands
[12:39] <mib_e1hcqq> back
[12:39] <brutus> sybux, oh, its an HP lappie
[12:39] <dr_willis> guestguestnew,  you dont need sudo  in rc.local its all ran as root.
[12:39] <mib_e1hcqq> wlan0 isn't in ifconfig
[12:39] <brutus> so no cable
[12:39] <Slart> wolfeySI: I would start asking around in some unreal forums.. see if anyone else is having issues.. then you can start comparing setups etc to see if there is a common factor. Unless you get some kind of error message that points to something else than just a segfault
[12:39] <unop_> guestguestnew,  in /etc/rc.local you would put.   sudo -u username /path/to/synergy
[12:39] <allsystemsarego> DawnLight, just make sure to state in clear terms that you're not affiliated with Canonical
[12:40] <unop_> dr_willis, he has to get the process to run as another user (not root)
[12:40] <guestguestnew> oops, i typed it in terminal
[12:40] <DawnLight> another legal one: would use of the ubuntu logo constitute a violation?
[12:40] <guestguestnew> unop_:  oops, i typed it in terminal
[12:40] <guestguestnew> unop_: is that bad?
[12:40] <wolfeySI> Slart: well i started now .24 kernel and i get something about ati drivers
[12:40] <dr_willis> guestguestnew,  unless you want somthing ran as another user.. but  Im not sure what running that command BEFOR the user is logged into X  will do.. if it will even work or not.
[12:40] <unop_> guestguestnew, that's ok - you're testing it out
[12:40] <sybux> brutus: oops, so I don't know what should be wrong
[12:40] <wolfeySI> hmm
[12:40] <wolfeySI> ut2004 should have logs
[12:40] <guestguestnew> unop_: ok i'll see if it works then
[12:40] <unop_> dr_willis, he wants synergy to run _before_ anyone has logged on
[12:41] <guestguestnew> unop_: brb
[12:41] <mib_e1hcqq> unop_: stil can
[12:41] <mib_e1hcqq> cant get ifconfig -a to show wlan0
[12:41] <allsystemsarego> DawnLight, you can put that logo on your site, just make sure you say "Ubuntu is a trademark of Canonical ec"
[12:41] <unop_> mib_e1hcqq, does modprobing the module bring up the interface??
[12:41] <dr_willis> unop_,  what if theres no X going at the time? will that even work.. if its to work for anyone.. why run it as a specific user? then again.. I bet the Snergy Homepage/faq has these answers and more! :)
[12:41] <mib_e1hcqq> unop_: module is already loaded
[12:42] <unop_> mib_e1hcqq, try unloading it and reloading it
[12:42] <mib_e1hcqq> unop_: wont let me unload it
[12:42] <carbonic> I'm trying to play an encrypted dvd, I got all'the needed packages for it, but the players don't seem to be able to use it. Totem-xine for example asks if I need libdvdcss, although I got it installed already. Anybody got an idea why my system doesn't seem to take advantage of the packages?
[12:43] <unop_> dr_willis, no, that's the point - by using sudo that way, it will run as the specified user .. and if there is no X (it should fail) but then again i don't really know how synergy works
[12:43] <dr_willis> unop_,  from what ive seen.used of it.. it works in a very annoying way at times :)
[12:43] <unop_> mib_e1hcqq, how'd you try to unload it?
[12:43] <mib_e1hcqq> unop_: rmmod ath_pci
[12:44] <fantomas> Hi all. I have problem with Xorg. After I run xinit by root several times, X never exits and become <defunct>. Why this could happen?
[12:44] <unop_> mib_e1hcqq, you need sudo there
[12:44] <mib_e1hcqq> fantomas: put your WM in .xinitrc and use startx
[12:45] <dr_willis> why are you running 'xinit' by root   anyway?
[12:45] <mib_e1hcqq> unop_: ok i reloaded the module and its not in ifconfig -a
[12:45] <guestguestnew> unop_: synergy did not start. its not listed on system monitor. i can't connect either
[12:45] <easotokr> hi everyone, some help with latam keyboard please?
[12:45] <mib_e1hcqq> :s
[12:45] <fantomas> mib_e1hcqq: I put twm there. I'm running: xsetroot, xterm and twm only. Repeating procedure of runnig/exisiting xinit finally randomnly puts X in such a state
[12:45] <dr_willis> guestguestnew,  you may want to enable the logging features of synergy and check the logs.. and check the synergy homepage/faq - i think they mention the 'best' way to start it at boot up.
[12:45] <fantomas> exiting*
[12:45] <unop_> guestguestnew, have a read here - http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/autostart.html
[12:46] <dr_willis> unop_,  :) what? Documentation! :P wow.
[12:46] <dr_willis> unop_,  i was just thinking that gdm needed to start the tool.
[12:46] <fantomas> mib_e1hcqq: I started my investigation because I'm really tired of incorrect gdm or xorg behavior: after stoppinig gdm X is still in memory
[12:46] <Assargadon> Do someone ever used OCR under Linux? I tries 3 of them and I can't get the result
[12:46] <NeoTr> Hi all friends. Can you speak turkish? I don't speak english good enough.
[12:47] <Assargadon> and my document is quite easy - it even not scanned...
[12:47] <unop_> guestguestnew, where exactly in /etc/rc.local did you put that line??
[12:47] <allsystemsarego> !tr | NeoTr
[12:47] <NeoTr> tamam hocam sağolasın,
[12:47] <unop_> dr_willis, maybe, maybe not - perhaps synergy doesn't like being run when the user is not actually logged on?
[12:47] <unop_> i dunno
[12:47] <Finnish> How do I remove clip in Kino? I have 2 seconds of waste video on my project and I want to remove it
[12:47] <unop_> NeoTr, what language is that?
[12:48] <guestguestnew> unop_: before exit 0
[12:48] <dr_willis> unop_,  yep. I do know that 'sshing' into the remote box and running synergy can cause issues also. :)
[12:48] <easotokr> Hi, please help, I really need have accents on my words :P
[12:48] <guestguestnew> dr_willis: how do i get gdm to start it then?
[12:48] <allsystemsarego> unop_, that is probably "Thanks dude" in turkish :)
[12:48] <NeoTr> turkish
[12:49] <dr_willis> guestguestnew,  that url that  unop_  posted.. has info on that topic. I would suggest carefull reading of it and the synergy docs.. it can be a  rather complex program to setup
[12:49] <unop_> guestguestnew, try changing the line to.   { sudo -u username /path/to/synergy; } > /tmp/synergy.log 2>&1 ;
[12:49] <unop_> guestguestnew, that way you can read the log file to see if the command has failed somehow
[12:49] <dr_willis> guestguestnew,  synergy also has some command line options that MAY be needed to get the loggs shown like unop_  is suggesting..
[12:49] <DawnLight> allsystemsarego: http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy mentions "#
[12:49] <DawnLight> there is no commercial intent behind the use
[12:49] <DawnLight> bad paste...
[12:50] <lvlefisto1> is there a repo which has the 2.5.3 version of pidgin already?
[12:50] <guestguestnew> unop_: ok i think i made a mistake though. do i need the actual path? i just typed the command?
[12:50] <dr_willis> guestguestnew,  http://rackerhacker.com/2008/07/30/automatically-starting-synergy-in-gdm-in-ubuntufedora/  also looks neat..
[12:50] <mib_e1hcqq> unop_: what should i do?
[12:50] <guestguestnew> dr_willis: i'll check it out
[12:51] <unop_> guestguestnew, errm, well, might be better to use the whole path if synergy is not in the standard PATH (as far as /etc/rc.local is concerned)
[12:51] <dr_willis> guestguestnew,  some of these sites are for running synergyc at startup.. some are for synergys
[12:51] <unop_> mib_e1hcqq, did you use sudo with rmmod there?
[12:52] <mib_e1hcqq> unop_: yes
[12:52] <unop_> mib_e1hcqq, did the module unload?
[12:53] <guestguestnew> dr_willis: i can't find any with synergys?
[12:53] <mib_e1hcqq> unop_: it unloaded and reloaded
[12:53] <unop_> guestguestnew,  synergys -f --config synergy.conf  # from http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/running.html  / starting the server
[12:54] <unop_> mib_e1hcqq, is the interface up now?
[12:54] <dr_willis> guestguestnew,  google is our friend... rember that.. :)
[12:54] <mib_e1hcqq> unop_: no
[12:55] <unop_> guestguestnew, guess the line in /etc/rc.local has to change to   { /path/to/synergys -f --config synergy.conf; } >/tmp/synergy.log 2>&1
[12:55] <guestguestnew> dr_willis: hehehe. yeah, but all i'm finding are gdm guides. my synergy client is on kde! :(
[12:55] <unop_> mib_e1hcqq, hmm, odd - it came up the last time right??
[12:55] <dr_willis> guestguestnew,  you could install/use gdm.. or read the kdm configs and find similer settings/files
[12:56] <unop_> guestguestnew, the client does not matter - it can run on any desktop - but here you should be concerned with the server.
[12:56] <carbonic> I'm trying to play an encrypted dvd, I got all'the needed packages for it, but the players don't seem to be able to use it. Totem-xine for example asks if I need libdvdcss, although I got it installed already. Anybody got any ideas?
[12:57] <mib_e1hcqq> unop_: it hasnt come up since I last installed my computer for my friend a month ago
[12:57] <mib_e1hcqq> he says it just disappeared
[12:57] <unop_> mib_e1hcqq, try rebuilding the madwifi drivers
[12:57] <guestguestnew> unop_: ok i changed it. i'll try restarting again
[12:57] <unop_> guestguestnew, make sure you have a synergy.conf too
[12:57] <sybux> how the processor speed selector work ? I'm always running at 600Mhz even when I'm doing a lot of calculation (displaying a picture for exemple)
[12:58] <mib_e1hcqq> unop_: okqy
[12:58] <rguimaraens> hey everyone!
[12:58] <rguimaraens> this is my firts time on irc!
[12:58] <rguimaraens> *first
[12:59] <sybux> rguimaraens: good luck
[12:59] <rguimaraens> thnx sybus...
[12:59] <man> hi
[12:59] <mib_e1hcqq> unop_: i just loaded the driver with ndiswrapper - how do i get wlan0 to show up?
[13:00] <unop_> mib_e1hcqq, i'm not very conversant with ndiswrapper
[13:00] <man> hello
[13:00] <eigenval> hallo . system startup links for /etc/init.d/networking exist. but the wlan doesn't work after booting. if i explicitly  'sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop' and then start (or restart), it works. why doesn't  work it after booting? how can i identify the problem?
[13:00] <Finnish> Whats the address of Kino irc? How do I connect?
[13:01] <guestguestnew> unop_: still nothing dude
[13:01] <unop_> guestguestnew, did you make a synergy.conf file ??
[13:01] <mib_e1hcqq> unop_: what do you mean?
[13:02] <unop_> mib_e1hcqq, i mean i don't know much about ndis*
[13:02] <unop_> !ndiswrapper | mib_e1hcqq
[13:02] <man> hi
[13:02] <david_> hi I got the message "Could not update ICEauthority file...." what does this message mean??
[13:02] <mib_e1hcqq> unop_: how do i uninstall my old madwifi?
[13:03] <unop_> mib_e1hcqq, sudo aptitude remove madwifi-tools #?
[13:03] <guestguestnew> unop_: yes i did. i am able to connect to it from the client but i have start the server from the terminal each time
[13:03] <mib_e1hcqq> unop_: i didnt install them with aptitude
[13:03] <man> hi
[13:03] <R1_> Hello, Is anyone here familiar with the su-to-root command?
[13:03] <unop_> mib_e1hcqq, it doesn't matter
[13:04] <unop_> mib_e1hcqq, also FYR - http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/LinuxMint
[13:04] <man> does anyone speak french
[13:04] <unop_> !fr | man
[13:04] <unop_> guestguestnew, did you check /tmp/synergy.log  ??
[13:04] <guestguestnew> its empty
[13:05] <man> salut ubuttu,  comment  faire s'il te plais
[13:05] <R1_> Hello, Is anyone here familiar with the su-to-root command?
[13:05] <guestguestnew> unop_: its empty.
[13:05] <man> je suis novice
[13:05] <unop_> guestguestnew, is the synergy process running at all ??
[13:05] <unop_> !fr | man
[13:05] <guestguestnew> unop_: were those curly braces part of the change? or were you specifying the area i had to change? no its not runnning
[13:05] <unop_> man, allez a #ubuntu-fr, svp!
[13:06] <guestguestnew> unop_: { sudo -u richie /usr/bin/synergys; } s > /tmp/synergy.log 2>&1 ; do i remove the curly braces?
[13:06] <mib_e1hcqq> unop_: ok i just reinstall - should i reboot?
[13:06] <man> mais ou est ubuntu.fr
[13:07] <mib_e1hcqq> man: #ubuntu-fr
[13:07] <jpds> !fr | man
[13:07] <unop_> guestguestnew, yes, curly braces are part of the command - but   i see an extraneous s there .. also, that's not the complete command i gave you :)
[13:07] <R1_> does anyone know the timeout period of su-to-root? For example, sudo times out in 15 minutes, is there a timeout period when you use su-to-root to open an application?
[13:07] <guestguestnew> unop_: synergys is the command for the server to start. whats the whole command?
[13:08] <unop_> man,  /join #ubuntu-fr
[13:08] <em123> hi, im back
[13:08] <mib_e1hcqq> unop_: should i reboot now that i've reinstalled madwifi?
[13:08] <em123> does the additional function ISO cant been loaded without a X window environment? GODS, help me
[13:08] <unop_> guestguestnew, http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/ - look under Documentation / Using Synergy / Starting the Server
[13:09] <R1_> does anyone know the timeout period of su-to-root? For example, sudo times out in 15 minutes, is there a timeout period when you use su-to-root to open an application?
[13:09] <unop_> mib_e1hcqq, you shouldn't need to - but it's probably best
[13:09] <carajean> hey anyone know how to turn off compiz?
[13:09] <R1_> unop_, is there a timeout period when using su-to-root?
[13:10] <_empty> I see there is a problem with openchomr/ubuntu for hp2133, possible to say when it will be fixed?
[13:10] <unop_> R1_, errm i don't think so - as far as i can tell, su-to-root is only a wrapper script around su
[13:10] <eigenval> can someone help me? i really have startup links: http://pasteall.org/3695 but it doesn't work after booting until i explicitly restart :-(
[13:10] <gocrazynow> hi, is it possible to show keybord layouts on the panel?
[13:12] <R1_> unop_, i made a shortcut to a gnome application and in the command i started it with su-to-root to run the application as root. But it only asks me for the root password the first time run the shortcut, any time after when i want to run it again, it doesn't ask me for password anymore, just starts the app
[13:12] <dr_willis> em123,    You may want to clarify the original problem and give details. I just barely rember your problem from a LONG while back.
[13:12] <unop_> R1_, so you want the thing to ask for a password everytime ??
[13:12] <R1_> unop_, so i was wondering if there was a way to time out this command? it's not safe to let a program run as root anytime without asking for pw
[13:13] <sadris> do you have to have the most recent packages installed in order to upgrade to 8.10 ?
[13:13] <ardchoille> !upgrade | sadris
[13:13] <R1_> unop_, yes i want it to ask for a password because i'm running the app as root
[13:14] <sadris> ardchoille: thanks
[13:14] <unop_> R1_, why not use su instead then??  it asks for a password everytime
[13:14] <ljsoftnet> how do i convert .flv files to dvd?
[13:14] <unop_> R1_, or sudo (with the -k option)
[13:15] <mk324> still can't get wlan0 to show up
[13:15] <levidos> what;s the difference between dmesg and tail -f /var/log/messages ?
[13:15] <erUSUL> ljsoftnet: ffmpeg and mencoder
[13:15] <R1_> unop_, i used su-to-root because i was just mimicking the command of another shortcut that was installed and ran as root. Is there another way to run gnome program from root?
[13:15] <unop_> R1_, actually i take back the sudo thing - don't try it
[13:15] <unop_> R1_, yea, there's  gksu or gksudo
[13:16] <mrwes> isn't gksu a link to gksudo ?
[13:16] <carbonic> I'm trying to play an encrypted dvd, I got all'the needed packages for it, but the players don't seem to be able to use it. Totem-xine for example asks if I need libdvdcss, although I got it installed already. Anybody got any ideas?
[13:16] <unop_> mrwes, they're the same thing
[13:16] <guestguestnew> unop_: still nothing
[13:16] <mrwes> carbonic: install ubuntu-restricted-packages
[13:16] <carbonic> already got it
[13:16] <carbonic> doesn't help
[13:17] <nbeebo> sda1, is that hd0,0?
[13:17] <ardchoille> gksudo is a symbolic link to gksu
[13:17] <mrwes> ahh
[13:17] <ardchoille> file $(which gksudo)
[13:17] <R1_> unop_, sorry my connection is messy right now, if you've said something to me i've completely missed everything
[13:17] <levidos> what;s the difference between dmesg and tail -f /var/log/messages ?
[13:18] <guestguestnew> unop_: { sudo -u richie /usr/bin/synergys -f --config /etc/synergy.conf ; } > /tmp/synergy.log 2>&1 ; thats the whole line. i tried running the command in terminal but i had to change the synergy.conf part to /etc/synergy.conf got it wo work in terminal
[13:18] <guestguestnew> unop_: so thats what i put in the rc.local
[13:18] <nbeebo> omg
[13:18] <em123> dr_wills, hi, my problem is that about guest additional function install. in detail, preface, im run a linux livecd that have no x window in virtualbox. because i want to access host's file from running livecd, i need installing additional function, that vbox provided, in fact that installing have this line can be run "mount -t vboxsf share /mnt/share"
[13:18] <unop_> R1_, yea, there's  gksu or gksudo
[13:18] <unop_> guestguestnew, and that still doesn't work ??
[13:19] <nbeebo> sda1, is that hd0,0?
[13:19] <ardchoille> mrwes: gksu also has a gui, try running gksu from a terminal
[13:19] <guestguestnew> unop_: yeah, the line works in terminal. but not in rc.local. empty system.log too still
[13:19] <mk324> unop_: what should i do?
[13:19] <dr_willis> em123,  the guest addations for cvirtual box must be installed for that to work.. OR if you just want to access the hosts files. theres other ways you can do that. samba, ssh,  ftp.
[13:20] <unop_> mk324, are you the mib_* guy?
[13:20] <em123> but, dr_willis, when i click vbox's menu it does not work. so i try another linux livecd that have x window, it DO works.
[13:20] <mrwes> ardchoille: hrmm...interesting; I always run alt f2 then gksu or gksudo
[13:20] <mk324> unop_: yes
[13:20] <mk324> unop_: mib gets assigned automatically by mibbit
[13:20] <unop_> guestguestnew, i'm running out of ideas.  change the line to    { sudo -u richie /path/to/synergys -f --config /etc/synergy.conf; sleep 10; ps aux | grep -i synergy; } > /tmp/synergy.log 2>&1  # see what happens then
[13:20] <ardchoille> mrwes: that works too
[13:20] <hashbrow1> whenever i have my two ethernet ports on my evga nvidai 680i sli motherboard enabled, i cant access the internet, but when only one is enabled i can access the internet. does anyone know how to configure it so that i can have both ports enabled and still be able to access the internet?
[13:21] <unop_> mk324, errm, try following this procedure http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/LinuxMint
[13:21] <em123> as for how not to work, it does load the addional*.iso like in another livecd that have x.
[13:21] <dr_willis> em123,  I belive you may be able to just install the .deb off the guestcd with the command line.
[13:21] <em123> as for how not to work, it does NOT  load the addional*.iso like in another livecd that have x.
[13:22] <dr_willis> em123,   if you just need to get a few files back and forth. It may be MUCH easier to just use ssh.
[13:22] <kamaji> Does anyone use abcde? I can't get it to rip to anything other than WAV
[13:22] <nbeebo> sda1, is that hd0,0?
[13:22] <mrwes> kamaji: I use abcde
[13:22] <golu62> Hey all
[13:22] <mnemo> I want to get TV-out working on my laptop..... should I use radeonhd or ati driver? my card is --> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE) [1002:5955]
[13:23] <em123> dr_willis, i aim for make a lfs install, so the livecd is much tiny, in truth, except make and gcc, nearly nothing is left.
[13:23] <kamaji> mrwes: how do you get it to encode? it just dies after ripping everything into a folder of wavs
[13:23] <bianjinsheng> 我是u76107,进来了？
[13:23] <nbeebo> !cn
[13:23] <mk324> unop_: why isnt my wlan0 comming up
[13:24] <mrwes> kamaji: did you edit the .abcde.conf file and uncomment lameopts under the #MP3 section?
[13:24] <nbeebo> sda1, is that hd0,0?
[13:24] <unop_> mk324, the module doesn't seem to be working for your system
[13:24] <golu62> Can anyone tell me,How to install Firefox 3.1 beta 2 on ubuntu 8.10?
[13:24] <em123> and i wouldnot put all files i needed on a server, that ssh, or samba can access
[13:25] <mk324> unop_: why - it was working before?
[13:25] <em123> bianjinsheng: bianjinsheng
[13:25] <kamaji> mrwes: it's already commented out
[13:25] <dr_willis> em123,  i would say check the vbox user manual ata http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads  You should be able to install the addons. but Ive not got a linxu box handy to test. you may need some extra packages installed to compile them.   there may be some existing ubuntu packages with them allready  made up.
[13:25] <dr_willis> !vboc
[13:25] <FloodBot1> dr_willis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:25] <unop_> mk324, i dunno - i'm not a madwifi project maintainer
[13:25]  * dr_willis pinches FloodBot1
[13:25] <golu62> 8-|
[13:26] <guestguestnew> unop_: still nothing, empty log:(
[13:26] <mrwes> kamaji: see my private message
[13:26] <AussieGuy> hi, ive got 2 copies of the same project on two different machines. Ive made modifications on both machines. how can rsync "sync" the changes? I can see in its options it wants a "SRC" and "DEST", but im after a merge of the two
[13:27] <golu62> Can anyone tell me,How to install firefox 3.1 beta 2?
[13:27] <Nick_> is it possible to read a text file per line and output it to multiple files?
[13:27] <Slart> AussieGuy: I think you can use rsync to make changes to the SRC too.. isn't there a switch?
[13:27] <unop_> guestguestnew, i'm out of ideas - you'll have to ask someone who's done this before
[13:27] <guestguestnew> unop_: well thanks for all the help. i still learned a lot
[13:27] <Slart> Nick_: sure
[13:27] <unop_> Nick_, all lines or just some lines ??
[13:28] <Nick_> unop_: all lines, 1 line per 1 file output
[13:28] <Slart> Nick_: it might not be a simple 2 word command.. but it's doable
[13:28] <Nick_> Slart: i see, do you have a guide/tutorial I can read to do it?
[13:29] <em123> hi
[13:29] <unop_> Nick_, wait, let me get this straight - you want to read an input file line by line and output the same line to multiple output files?? is that right?
[13:29] <Slart> Nick_: not really.. but if you wait a minute or two I'll see what I can do
[13:29] <carbonic> I'm trying to play an encrypted dvd, I got all'the needed packages for it, but the players don't seem to be able to use it. Totem-xine for example asks if I need libdvdcss, although I got it installed already. Anybody got any ideas?
[13:29] <AussieGuy> no switches that I can se
[13:29] <AussieGuy> unelss it modifies SRC by default
[13:29] <em123> just now i enter a channel named ubuntu?cn, but now i can not return , who can tell me that channel's exact name?
[13:29] <Nick_> unop_: read a file line by line then output line 1 to output file 1, line 2 to output file 2, and so on
[13:30] <dr_willis> !cn
[13:30] <Slart> Nick_: split -l 1 <input file> will do it
[13:30] <em123> ok, thanks
[13:30] <Slart> Nick_: you can change the names of the output files in some way.. check the man page for more info
[13:31] <Nick_> Slart: oh, thanks
[13:31] <guestguestnew> unop_: i'm sorry for not using google earlier https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto#Server%20Configuration found this it has everything.
[13:31] <Slart> Nick_: split -l 1 <input file> <prefix> will create files called <prefix>aa, <prefix>ab etc
[13:34] <carajean> anybody know how to install a .rar file in ubuntu?? I downloaded a file in that format and need to know how to run it to install the program.
[13:34] <AussieGuy> sounds like a windows program
[13:35] <Slart> carajean: install a rar file? you can unpack it if that's what you're looking for
[13:35] <carbonic> it's like a zip file.
[13:35] <AussieGuy> I think file-roller can open them
[13:35] <carajean> yes sir thats what im looking for.
[13:35]  * Panarchy says Hi
[13:35] <Slart> !rar
[13:38] <Romario11> Hi there!
[13:41] <James22> Hello all
[13:41] <flo-isback> how do i connect from terminal to  wired internet connection ?
[13:42] <blackpaw> flo-isback: in order to do what? Surf the web from the commandline? Lynx can do that... but it hurts ;)
[13:42] <James22> I have a problem with my sounds - /dev/dsp is always busy.... i can play audio when i start up.. but after I run VLC for a while and then close it... I can't play anything else "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" yields: "bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" ... lsof /dev/dsp comes up with nothing as well :(
[13:43] <Romario11> I have a question about upgrading
[13:43] <Panarchy> Who needs help?
[13:43] <flo-isback> blackpaw: heh want nothing to fancy ;)
[13:44] <Panarchy> lol
[13:44] <Panarchy> Who needs help?
[13:44] <ardchoille> !upgrade | Romario11
[13:44] <James22> Panarchy, I do
[13:44] <Panarchy> !ice-cream
[13:44] <Panarchy> !ubuntu
[13:44] <Panarchy> James22: Go ahead
[13:44] <Panarchy> what's your question
[13:44] <Panarchy> !girls
[13:44] <James22> I have a problem with my sounds - /dev/dsp is always busy.... i can play audio when i start up.. but after I run VLC for a while and then close it... I can't play anything else "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" yields: "bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" ... lsof /dev/dsp comes up with nothing as well :(
[13:44] <Panarchy> !hot-girls
[13:45] <Panarchy> hahahaha :P
[13:45] <Rec0> whats the name of the ubuntu help channel
[13:45] <Panarchy> This is it
[13:45] <Rec0> ahh ok
[13:45] <Panarchy> James22: Nup, confused with that
[13:45] <Rec0> got a problem with my installation it doesn't boot it sais Error 2
[13:45] <Panarchy> Dunno
[13:45] <Panarchy> lol
[13:45] <Panarchy> !drugs
[13:46] <Rec0> end error 2 means there is somethin wrong with the menu list
[13:46] <Panarchy> hahahaha
[13:46] <Slart> !botabuse  | Panarchy
[13:46] <James22> Rec0, GRUB Error 2 ?
[13:46] <Rec0> !Marihuana
[13:46] <Rec0> jap
[13:46] <Rec0> exactly
[13:46] <James22> Rec0, is it a fresh install ?
[13:46] <werdnum> Rec0: maybe if you spelt it correctly...
[13:46] <Rec0> yap
[13:47] <Rec0> what???
[13:47] <Romario11> !upgrade
[13:47] <James22> Rec0, do you have mutiple hard drives in the machine ?
[13:47] <James22> Rec0, or multiple partitions ?
[13:47] <Rec0> yes i do
[13:47] <Rec0> 3
[13:47] <Rec0> i have it like this
[13:48] <carlos`> the 'commands' usualy writen as $COMMAND are hard or soft links or what ?
[13:48] <Romario11> OK, I read that already and it didn't help. What I really want to know is: if I upgrade directly from the upgrade manager to the next version of Ubuntu, will it keep my settings and files?
[13:49] <crow> Hi, how to change language, i have sys msg on german and would like to have everything in english...
[13:49] <Rec0> IDE Primary master :160GB Data Storage
[13:49] <Rec0> IDE Primary slave: 120GB For linux
[13:49] <Rec0> IDE Secondary Master: 40GB Windows
[13:49] <Rec0> IDE Secondary Slave: DVD-Burner
[13:49] <FloodBot1> Rec0: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:49] <Rec0> sorry
[13:50] <James22> Rec0, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4485201&postcount=8
[13:50] <Rec0> thanks a lot
[13:51] <carlos`> the 'commands' usualy writen as $COMMAND are hard or soft links or what ?
[13:51] <AussieGuy> rsync works on timestamp compared to UTC, not date compared to timezone, right?
[13:51] <Slart> carlos`: what are you talking about?
[13:51] <AussieGuy> so 2 different machines in 2 different timezones will update fine
[13:51] <Slart> carlos`: commands written where?
[13:51] <_cO^^Ok_69> bobby
[13:51] <ardchoille> CarlFK: $COMMAND is usually seen as a variable
[13:51] <Rec0> does ubuntu really need to be on a master hdd
[13:51] <James22> Rec0, If that doesn't work.. see the rest of the thread, there are a couple of other possible solutions to your problem
[13:51] <Rec0> ???
[13:51] <Slart> Rec0: nope
[13:51] <carlos`> i;ve installed tomcat, and in few manuals its written to set $CATALINA_HOME or $JAVA_HOME ..
[13:51] <Slart> Rec0: !!!!
[13:51] <James22> nochd, i don't believe it does
[13:52] <Rec0> yea??
[13:52] <Slart> carlos`: that looks like an enviroment variable
[13:52] <ardchoille> carlos`: those are variables
[13:52] <carlos`> and how do iset them ?
[13:52] <carlos`> change their value
[13:52] <AussieGuy> export $VARIABLE = value
[13:53] <ardchoille> thank you AussieGuy
[13:53] <AussieGuy> if you want it permenent put that in your .bashrc
[13:53] <carlos`> and import will show current value ?
[13:53] <_cO^^Ok_69_> bobby
[13:53] <unop_> AussieGuy, actually that wouldn't work
[13:53] <Rec0> ok im gonna try to set them to dma mode.... hope it works..
[13:53] <bullgard4> '~$ echo USE' does not produce any aoutput. Why do other Linux distributions use such an environment variable?
[13:53] <_cO^^Ok_69_> hay brow
[13:53] <ardchoille> export VARIABLE = value
[13:53] <unop_> carlos`, AussieGuy   export VARIABLE=value  #note no spaces and no dollar
[13:54] <unop_> ardchoille, spaces ...
[13:54] <carlos`> thankyou
[13:54] <Slart> bullgard4: are you sure the ~$ is supposed to be there? it isn't just a prompt?
[13:55] <ardchoille> unop_: ah, good catch, the spaces work in ~/.bashrc but not in terminal
[13:55] <joaopinto> bullgard4, do you mean, echo $USER ?
[13:55] <_cO^^Ok_69__> buntu
[13:55] <Slart> ah.. good catch joaopinto
[13:56] <unop_> ardchoille, they shouldn't work in ~/.bashrc either - atleast if its to be POSIXly correct
[13:56] <Decepticon> ahahah allquixotic ive got it
[13:56] <bullgard4> joaopinto: Yes, I meant '~$ echo $USE'.
[13:56] <ardchoille> unop_: spaces do work in ~/.bashrc for: export EDITOR=vim
[13:56] <unop_> ardchoille, what i mean is   export EDITOR = vim #shouldn't work
[13:57] <ardchoille> unop_: nevermind, looking at three diff ~/.bashrc files
[13:57] <Slart> bullgard4: is that exactly what the string was? all characters correct, nothing missing?
[13:57] <ardchoille> one person managing 11 servers gets tedious
[13:57] <bullgard4> Slart: '~$ echo $USE' is exact.
[13:58] <Slart> bullgard4: where did you find it? some howto?
[13:58] <saler> :P
[13:58] <unop_> ardchoille, yea, if you had spaces in the declaration - you'd get .. bash: export: `=': not a valid identifier
[13:58] <flo-isback> !svn
[13:58] <bullgard4> Slart: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/de/gnome-config.xml
[13:58] <AussieGuy> I was planning on 20 server
[13:59] <AussieGuy> *s
[13:59] <ardchoille> unop_: yeah, you're right
[13:59] <AussieGuy> theyll all be identical though
[13:59] <ardchoille> unop_: I wrote this .bashrc two years ago and never tested "export EDITOR = vim" to see if everything worked, which it doesn't
[13:59] <joaopinto> bullgard4, there is no common variable with the name $USE, there is $USER
[13:59] <ardchoille> unop_: I'm so glad you spoke up :)
[14:00] <Slart> bullgard4: no such string on that page
[14:00] <Decepticon> allquixotic you will see http://decepticon.rlogin.org/~decepticon/school/knight2e/pdf/ fill up as i complete all 1365 swf files into pdf files ... i used a bash script in cygwin to use a for loop for every swf file in the dir to open it in firefox on windows... then, i had a program called automate recognize window title, slash window title to obtain file #, and send keystrokes to print as #.pdf
[14:00] <bullgard4> Slart: There is.
[14:00] <Pokshun> guys, I know you can redirect output using the > operator. Now.. does anyone know how I can redirect output to the terminal/default display. You might wonder, "why do you want to do that!, all commands are by default directed to the terminal anyway". Yes I know.. but my requirements are different, I want to explicitly redirect output to the computer's monitor.
[14:01] <unop_> ardchoille, it's one mistake i made too often - shell is so different to other language in that respect - which makes sense, spaces delimit arguments.
[14:01] <Decepticon> allquixotic and then the automate program was to kill firefox, and wait for a new instance to come up... whereby the process would begin again.
[14:01] <leon> who know, how many ubuntu user now
[14:01] <ardchoille> yeah
[14:01] <bullgard4> joaopinto: In http://www.gentoo.org/doc/de/gnome-config.xml there is.
[14:02] <Slart> bullgard4: not that I see in firefox.. find doesn't see it either..
[14:02] <unop_> leon, maybe this gives you an idea - http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu
[14:03] <leon> good, it is diffcult to introduce ubuntu to my guys
[14:03] <Slart> bullgard4: it mentions a USE variable.. that might be set in a make script.. but it doesn't contain the string "~$ echo $USE"
[14:04] <joaopinto> bullgard4, that is not a generic variable, it's is just some variable you use for the compilation parameters
[14:04] <bullgard4> Slart: My Firefox Search funnction does find it. Even when using 'Match case'.
[14:04] <joaopinto> it could be USE, or POTATOES, or ANYTHING_ELSE
[14:04] <unop_> Pokshun, use something like osd_cat (from xosd-bin) for an on screen display
[14:05] <Slart> bullgard4: can you take a screenshot where it's visible?
[14:05] <bullgard4> joaopinto: Ah! Thank you very much vor explaining.
[14:05] <joaopinto> bullgard4, and that variable is for a gentoo system, nothing that you should care about when using Ubuntu
[14:05] <leon> wicd will import to install package?
[14:05] <unop_> Pokshun,  echo "hello world" | osd_cat -
[14:05] <bullgard4> joaopinto: Ok. Thank you again.
[14:06] <leon> i think wicd is better than NM
[14:07] <_cO^^Ok_69> ceting
[14:07] <kolby> what video format does Brasero need to burn DVDs ?
[14:08] <kolby> I have the videos in mpeg4 right now
[14:08] <bullgard4> Slart: Taking a screenshot and relaying it to the public is too much effort for such a small problem. So I will refrain from it. Synchonously to our thread joaopinto has given an excellent explanation for $USE.
[14:08] <Slart> bullgard4: yes.. I was just curious if we were seeing different web-pages for some reason
[14:08] <Rec0> james22 could you send me the link one more time
[14:08] <louise> I am having a problem setting up my wireless network, I downloaded and installed the windows driver but it still dont seem to work, help ?!
[14:09] <ardchoille> kolby: I've never tried that with brasero, if it doesn't work, try tovid or devede
[14:09] <Rec0> udma is enabled
[14:09] <Netcowboy> hello, I'm tryn to get TOR working I did every thing as "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR" says but I'm still with my real ip
[14:10] <kolby> ardchoille, thanks
[14:10] <stian> How do i get the workspaceswitcher to show workspacenames insted of just a window? :-)
[14:10] <louise> how do I install the driver for a 802.11b/g wireless network card, in ubuntu ?
[14:11] <werdnum> Hi! When I resume from suspend, my screen goes bananas and I have to alt-sysrq-K to get back to a sensible X terminal
[14:11] <werdnum> s/terminal/session/
[14:11] <ardchoille> stian: right click the workspace switcher and choose Preferences
[14:12] <stian> Yes but preferences isent there (?)
[14:12] <DawnLight> quanta+ is not develoed anymore, is it?
[14:13] <stian> Can adjust how many workspaces i want, thats it.
[14:13] <Rec0> ehm could someone help me i've got a fresh ubuntu installed but it doesn't load it says grub error 2
[14:14] <Rec0> i've got multiple hdd's in my pc (3 and a dvd-burner)
[14:15] <Slart> stian: it seems there used to be a checkbox for this.. there is still a variable in gconf-editor for it
[14:15] <richard> greetings, and merry christmas
[14:15] <Guest29648> i have a problem with the amsn audio and video
[14:16] <Guest29648> can someone help, i am using intrepid
[14:16] <stian> Slart: Will take a look :-) Thanx
[14:17] <shoeunited> I've found a solution to a "screenshot gallery of a movie" that has been plauging some users for a long time.  Where should I make a topic for it?
[14:18] <crow> is there already .dev package for mplayer_vdpau to test?
[14:18] <shoeunited> In the forums, I mean.
[14:18] <Slart> stian: seems it only works if you're running metacity though =/
[14:18] <Guest29648>  i have a problem with the amsn audio and video
[14:18] <Guest29648> no audio and video
[14:19] <stian> Running the same ubuntu on the laptop and there i have given them names.... but here i just cant find it..
[14:20] <richard>  i have a problem with the amsn audio and video
[14:20] <richard> no audio and video
[14:21] <Guest11676> help please
[14:22] <FiremanEd> !ask | Guest11676
[14:23] <Guest11676> well i try to call someone with amsn but it say something about /dev/dsp
[14:23] <man> hello
[14:23] <man> can you help me?
[14:24] <FiremanEd> !ask | man
[14:24] <Guest11676> ok
[14:24] <eleos2> what is the shortcut of changing the language
[14:24] <eleos2> ?
[14:25] <PurplePlus> eleos2 alt+shift doesn't work?
[14:26] <eleos2> purpleplus no
[14:26] <man> allo
[14:27] <ardchoille> PurplePlus: alt+shift brings up the window menu bydefault
[14:27] <bitsbam> hey all, is there a way when i share a drive ( either with samba or nfs, don't care which ) that i can make 2 drives appear as one to the client computer? I guess i am looking for a program that will do this.
[14:30] <bartek> hi, I keep getting Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) .. It's because I have a "aptitude search w" running in my ps but how can I kill it? I've tried sudo kill <pid> and kilall aptitude but no luck it just sits there. Any tips?
[14:30] <melch> Hey can someone help me install adobe air on a 64 bit install?
[14:30] <joaopinto> bitsbam, sure, just make sure those drives are mounted inside your share path
[14:30] <joaopinto> !aptlock | bartek
[14:31] <bartek> What does that do before I run it?
[14:31] <bartek> brief summary :-)
[14:31] <gauravkumar> tryin to install warcraft III on hardy.. i have a dell inspiron 1525 .. intel 965 video .. i get a black screen when i run with wine and nothin else... any help?
[14:31] <joaopinto> bartek, it kills the process locking that file
[14:31] <mint_> hi guys, i have a problem with java, everytime i try to use a digital certificate with java, it show me a pop up to select it, but there's no certificate  (and i've already imported it), any suggestion?
[14:31] <error404notfound> I am in single user mode, I have /,/var,/boot,/var/www and I want to run fsck on them but it says that they are mounted, when I try to unmount them ubuntu cries about them being busy
[14:31] <bartek> ok
[14:31] <bartek> thanks
[14:31] <eleos2> what is the keyboard shortcut of changing the default language
[14:31] <eleos2> ?
[14:31] <joaopinto> !wine | gauravkumar
[14:32] <bartek> awesome .. thanks joaopinto !
[14:32] <melch> !adobe air
[14:33] <joaopinto> eleos2, I am not aware of a shortcut for that, it's available from System -> Admin -> Lang Support
[14:34] <kanibalizm> gosh
[14:34] <kanibalizm> so many ppl
[14:34] <joaopinto> error404notfound, are you sure you booted in recovery mode ? Have you untried to unmount them ?
[14:34] <kanibalizm> who can help about UBUNTU :)
[14:34] <joaopinto> !anyone | kanibalizm
[14:35] <em123> hi, please tell me one livecd that have these 3 feature, 1, minimal, 2, make, gcc, 3, after startup, the livecd can been pull out and put another cd into cdrom drive
[14:35] <error404notfound> joaopinto: I am in recovery mood, from there I select root shell option, I have also tried to unmount them...
[14:35] <kanibalizm> shoul id ask in channel :)
[14:35] <joaopinto> em123, the ubuntu live cd does not allow that
[14:35] <joaopinto> !ot | em123
[14:35] <gauravkumar> joaopinto: i did install through wine and finally when i try to run the exe i get a black blank screen.. also noteworthy.. i get direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set) from glxinfo
[14:35] <melch> Anyone have any info on adobe air and ubuntu
[14:36] <em123> ok
[14:36] <joaopinto> gauravkumar, "direct rendering: No" means you are not using the 3d capable drivers
[14:36] <joaopinto> gauravkumar, System -> Admin -> Hardware drivers
[14:36] <simon_> hi. since upgrade/update I get I/O errors with my cdrom drive (only with audio disc, not with data cds)
[14:36] <joaopinto> check if there is a recognized proprietary drivers for your card
[14:37] <kanibalizm> This is a major failure of your software management system. Please check for broken packages with synaptic, check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information with: 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get install -f'.
[14:37] <kanibalizm> this i what i have :)
[14:37] <joaopinto> kanibalizm, on the terimnal run: sudo apt-get install -f
[14:37] <kanibalizm> jabagawee you can help ?
[14:37] <joaopinto> as suggested by the message
[14:37] <gauravkumar> joaopinto: Hardware drivers doesnt list anything.. tried to get something relevant by using envy but this is an intel chipset and envy is for nvidia and ati
[14:38] <ardchoille> joaopinto: I have a vid card and after installing ubuntu direct rendering says yes, but the 3d drivers are not installed. I don't think direct rendering means 3d capable
[14:39] <joaopinto> ardchoille, direct rendering usually implies some 3d support, it does not mean it provides the same support as the proprietary drivers
[14:39] <gauravkumar> i have intel 965 and i also install xorg-video-intel.. well that's the best i could figure out .. any help?? really wanna play dota
[14:39] <joaopinto> gauravkumar, sorry, I have no experience with intel videco cards :\
[14:39] <joaopinto> gauravkumar, run lspci, to check for your video card model
[14:39] <kanibalizm> lol thanks alot joaopinto
[14:39] <gauravkumar> ardchoille: any experience with intel cards?
[14:40] <kanibalizm> i have this problem when try to instal Java
[14:40] <ardchoille> gauravkumar: no
[14:40] <bonhoffer> when i run svn on ubuntu, nano opens -- what is going on?
[14:40] <Computech> someone know how to fix this error with wine: Run-time error '429'
[14:40] <Computech> >     ActiveX component can't create object
[14:40] <gauravkumar> ardchoille: AND 1525 is supposed to be Dell's UBUNTU laptop
[14:40] <gauravkumar> :(
[14:40] <joaopinto> !wine | Computech
[14:41] <Computech> joaop i couldnt find the wine ch sry
[14:41] <joaopinto> np :)
[14:41] <gauravkumar> anyone else? warcraft on intel video cards?
[14:41] <ardchoille> joaopinto: thanks for the info
[14:41] <nickrud> bonhoffer, for the commit log? nano must be set as your editor
[14:42] <ardchoille> nickrud: when I run the Report a Problem app, it results in a message saying that the problem report is damaged and cannot be processed. Would that have anything to do with having vim set as my default editor?
[14:43] <bonhoffer> nickrud, i type svn ci and i get a message in nano -- then i exit and hit continue and the svn commits
[14:43] <bonhoffer> it seems like any messages should go to stdout, not nano
[14:43] <spionlala> i have fglrx activated on intrepid, compiz works great, but 2d performance with compiz turned off is HORRIBLE, what could i do? i tried nearly everything...
[14:43] <bitsbam> joaopinto: ak, how do i get them to look like one drive? or one shared folder ? - thanks btw
[14:43] <nickrud> bonhoffer, ah, the first I have no clue
[14:43] <nickrud> ardchoille, I wouldn't think so, but you could always try changing it
[14:44] <joaopinto> bitsbam, there is no context of drives on linux, you make the "drive" contents availables at a specific path (mount path)
[14:44] <joaopinto> you just need to make sure such path is inside your samba/nfs/whatever your root share point
[14:44] <joaopinto> they will be seen as directories on your share, regardless of it's physical location
[14:45] <bitsbam> got it, thanks
[14:45] <ardchoille> nickrud: no change, the "Report A Problem" app always crashes when I try to use it
[14:46] <nickrud> bonhoffer, I've been using subclipse recently, so I just did a commit from the cli: vim opened with an offer of creating my commit log
[14:46] <bonhoffer> yeah -- pretty odd
[14:50] <fantomas> I can't get sound working in guest windows XP. I tried bith ALSA and PulseAudio driver in machine config dialog but still no audio in Windows. After first enabling audio in machine's config (I started with ALSA), windows found multimedia device and installed Intel 82801AA Audio Controller which is listed in Device Manager and marked as working. But as I said - no audio in windows
[14:52] <_cO^^Ok_69> hayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[14:52] <fantomas> _cO^^Ok_69: who cares? this is state channel - everybody quits and enters
[14:53] <fantomas> _cO^^Ok_69: the main idea is to demonstrante you are using Ubuntu. For this you simply want to join this channle and keep silence ))
[14:53] <spionlala> HI fantomas !!!!!!!!!!
[14:54] <error404notfound> I have a machine which is directly connected to internet, after a reboot, I can ping all internet servers, but can't open any urls in the browser... Its Ubuntu 8.04LTS Server
[14:54] <fantomas> _cO^^Ok_69: in other words - don't disturb people from meditating on status messages ))
[14:54] <spionlala> error404notfound, browser is correctly configured? proxy settings for example?
[14:54] <erUSUL> error404notfound: ping with ip adress or with hostnames ?
[14:55] <error404notfound> spionlala: previoulsy I was able to browse with it, e.g. elinks...
[14:55] <error404notfound> erUSUL: both...
[14:55] <teranova> hello
[14:55] <erUSUL> error404notfound: so dns works correctly... check proxy settings as spionlala said
[14:55] <joaopinto> error404notfound, what error message do you get on the browser ?
[14:56] <saler> error404notfound,did u do any software installation or config(dhcp,dns,...)
[14:56] <error404notfound> erUSUL: no proxy required or used previously..
[14:56] <error404notfound> joaopinto: nothing, keeps me waiting for years
[14:56] <Schuenemann> where can I get the nfs-utils package?
[14:57] <joaopinto> Scarey, what utility are you looking for ?
[14:57] <saler> Schuenemann,"google"
[14:57] <teranova> i have probleme i update my kubuntu distrib to 8.10 the assistance finish downloading update and he install in this process pc roboot i dont know why and i can't get my linux working ? they are any methode to roolback setting ????? thanks to answer me
[14:57] <AshTray-> I have a problem with dovecot. The application it's running but the server it's not listenin 111 port or 143 :| What can i do? The log shows no errors.
[14:57] <Hans-Martin> error404notfound: anyway check the proxy settings - some malware might have installed a proxy via some javascript hackery
[14:57] <joaopinto> saler, that does not help much !
[14:57] <eleos2> ok thx guys
[14:58] <saler> joaopint, ubuntu package website
[14:58] <joaopinto> Schuenemann, there is no such package for ubuntu, probably what you are looking for is included in another package like nfs-common
[14:58] <bazhang> Schuenemann, nfs-common
[14:58] <Schuenemann> ahh...
[14:58] <Schuenemann> thanks then
[14:59] <Schuenemann> yeah, that was it. Thanks
[15:00] <teranova>  i have probleme i update my kubuntu distrib to 8.10 the assistance finish downloading update and he install in this process pc roboot i dont know why and i can't get my linux working ? they are any methode to roolback setting ????? thanks to answer me
[15:00] <hombre> hello
[15:00] <Schuenemann> !info quota-tools
[15:01] <hombre> my system ubuntu 7.10  does not recognize my chart network
[15:01] <gauravkumar> joaopinto: ardchoille i finally got direct rendering to YES :) .. but still get the same problem with wine and wrcrafe.. how has it been for u guys.. warcraft smooth on wine?
[15:01] <hombre> Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2160 @ 1.80GHz
[15:01] <hombre> Carte réseau    Atheros L2 Fast Ethernet 10/100 Base-T Controller  (88.176.17.102)
[15:01] <hombre>     
[15:01] <RogerB> !wxglade
[15:01] <RogerB> !info wxglade
[15:02] <hombre> can you help me?
[15:02] <joaopinto> gauravkumar, better ask on #winehq now
[15:02] <Schuenemann> does anyone know if this package quotatool is the same as quota-tools?
[15:02] <ardchoille> gauravkumar: I've never used wine
[15:02] <spionlala> is there any way to install kde3 on intrepid?
[15:02] <spionlala> i can only find the kde4 packages
[15:02] <AshTray-> !dovecot
[15:02] <dr_willis> spionlala,  theres unofficail packages i think in the works.
[15:02] <Schuenemann> gauravkumar, you'd better look in the appdb
[15:02] <dr_willis> !kde3
[15:03] <gauravkumar> Schuenemann: appdb?
[15:03] <spionlala> dr_willis, i see but nothing finalised huh? thx anyway
[15:03] <Schuenemann> gauravkumar, appdb.winehq.org
[15:03] <RogerB> kubuntu 8.04 is kde3
[15:03] <spionlala> jesus i need something to test 2d performance which is not xu or ubuntu or kubuntu 4 (and i dont want to install hardy, thx :) )
[15:04] <gauravkumar> joaopinto: thanks anyways
[15:04] <RogerB> spionlala, 2d performance, how old is your machine ???
[15:05] <AdamDH> is there a ubuntu development channel? I am in the process of making some packages for ubuntu but need some advice.
[15:05] <spionlala> brand new
[15:05] <dr_willis> I rember when '2d acelleration' was a big feature. :)
[15:05] <joaopinto> AdamDH, for packaging, #ubuntu-motu
[15:05] <spionlala> but gnome performance with compiz disabled is horrible
[15:05] <RogerB> 2d performance is pretty much obsolete
[15:05] <anton> hi guys i have a problem
[15:05] <spionlala> not when i dont want campiz activated
[15:05] <dr_willis> spionlala,  and what video card? and have you isntalled any extra drivers for it?
[15:05] <AdamDH> thanks joaopinto I will go ask in there
[15:05]  * delcoyote hi
[15:06] <spionlala> compiz*
[15:06] <Schuenemann> I need this package quota-tools but the closest I find in apt is quotatool. It doesn't have the "quota" command I need, though
[15:06] <dr_willis> Its very weird that compiz woild be faster...
[15:06] <anton> its my first time using ubuntu and i dont have any sound at all
[15:06] <spionlala> hd3850 , fglrx works great, tried every avail version (even 9.1 beta)
[15:06] <spionlala> gtkperf/100 rounds with compiz = 5 secs
[15:06] <spionlala> without compiz = 40 secs
[15:06] <RogerB> i don't have compiz running and i have no problems
[15:06] <spionlala> without compiz moving windows around feels so sluggish
[15:07] <joaopinto> SchneeSchwarz, the "quota" command I am aware of is not NFS related...
[15:07] <anton> its my first time using ubuntu and i dont have any sound at all
[15:07] <joaopinto> ops, was Schuenemann
[15:07] <Schuenemann> joaopinto, it's not. I'm following a tutorial to kernel recompilation and it's asking for those packages
[15:08] <Schuenemann> that's the last I need
[15:08] <leon> histo, i have a question. what pdf reader is best that supports asia language?
[15:08] <joaopinto> !best | leon
[15:08] <AMDMutant> !sound
[15:08] <Schuenemann> joaopinto, what is it for, anyway?
[15:09] <spionlala> i like evince leon, its small&fast
[15:09] <joaopinto> SchneeSchwarz, the quota command, included on the quota package, is to define file system level quotas per users
[15:09] <joaopinto> ops, Schuenemann
[15:09] <hombre> anybody wants  to help me
[15:09] <leon> the tool supports chinese language?
[15:09] <RogerB> i wonder if i can remove swap partition, it's never used, hmmmm
[15:10] <Schuenemann> !quota
[15:10] <spionlala> well i dunno chinese put im pretty sure tho , iguess everything in ubuntu supports chinese :o
[15:10] <joaopinto> leon, the default pdf viewer from ubuntu should support most languages
[15:10] <bazhang> Schuenemann, please /msg ubottu or search at packages.ubuntu.com
[15:10] <joaopinto> RogerB, you can, but you shouldn't
[15:10] <leon> nochd, it does not supports, i can only see ascii char
[15:11] <RogerB> use abiword
[15:11] <RogerB> it has chinese language and views pdg
[15:11] <jeff008> hello every body, i would like to install again hardy (server),i want t part my disk 250 Go... /boot primary etx3 200 Mo ,and the rest lvm2 with the cd live ... I've installed lvm2, modprobe dm-mod . i kill all olds parts... and create these two parts.But when i try to install with cd live, i've problem;;;
[15:11] <spionlala> whats the option again to turn the "minimize window to taskbar"-animation in compiz off? i unchecked everything in animation, but for some reason still nothing! :(
[15:11] <RogerB> *pdf
[15:12] <hombre> ubuntu.fr
[15:12] <bazhang> spionlala, #compiz-fusion for expert help
[15:12] <Schuenemann> bazhang, what about all those dependencies?
[15:12] <spionlala> bleh you dont need an expert for that :D but ok
[15:12] <hombre> ubuntu-fr
[15:12] <bazhang> Schuenemann, which ones?
[15:13] <Schuenemann> bazhang, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/quota
[15:13] <jeff008> is there any one to help me?
[15:13] <jeff008> ;)
[15:13] <joaopinto> !anyone | jeff008
[15:14] <bazhang> Schuenemann, could you please explain what you are trying to do?
[15:14] <Schuenemann> bazhang, install quota package
[15:14] <bazhang> !info quota
[15:14] <bazhang> Schuenemann, sudo apt-get install quota
[15:15] <hombre> does anyone speak french?
[15:15] <jeff008> excuse me i'm french ;)
[15:15] <bazhang> hombre, in #ubuntu-fr
[15:15] <joaopinto> !fr | hombre
[15:16] <anton> Can anyone help me fixing my sound? i dont have any sound at all in ubuntu but it works in windows XP
[15:16] <Schuenemann> bazhang, I can't believe I didn't see it. Thanks
[15:16] <bazhang> anton, have you run the alsa tests?
[15:16] <hombre> #ubuntu-fr
[15:16] <anton> No its my first time using ubuntu
[15:16] <bazhang> hombre, /join #ubuntu-fr  <---type that
[15:17] <leon> thank you all man, xpdf support chinese is very good. evince is not supports chinese language
[15:17] <bazhang> anton, first step is to type alsamixer in terminal and make sure nothing is muted
[15:17] <bazhang> anton, lets keep this in channel (not in PM)
[15:17] <anton> okey
[15:17] <anton> ok ill check that out
[15:18] <kromium> hi I am installing ubuntu using alternate install CD. how to chnage resolution of installer using this CD?
[15:19] <kromium> there is no such option on the main menu
[15:19] <joaopinto> you will need to use the vga=mode
[15:19] <joaopinto> on the boot options
[15:19] <bazhang> kromium, resolution? it is ncurses based so will not have a live cd look to it
[15:19] <anton> Thats how my alsamixer looks like: http://www.speedyshare.com/447791257.html
[15:20] <joaopinto> bazhang, I guess he is refering to the text mode resolution, aka video mode
[15:20] <bazhang> anton, is anything muted?
[15:20] <spionlala> FRAME BUFFER RESOLUTION :P
[15:20] <anton> Not that i can see
[15:20] <acke_> hey guys, in gnome usb is mounted with gnome-volume-manager, how is that done in kde?
[15:20] <anton> But if Card means soundcard, that isnt the right one
[15:20] <bazhang> anton, next step is to /join #alsa and follow the steps in the topic there
[15:20] <anton> ok thanks
[15:20] <joaopinto> acke_, try asking on #kubuntu :P
[15:21] <_2> anyone know of a linux distro that isn't compiled against libselinux1 ?
[15:21] <joaopinto> !ot | _2
[15:21] <joaopinto> _2, actually you should consider asking on #Linux
[15:21] <natnayr89> hi there, im having a problem with my computer, i think i accidentally changed the /usr folder and recursive all the permissions to chmod 777. Alot of my ubuntu's features and functions are now not working, especially when i cannot mount an external HD. Is there a way to revert to the original?
[15:22] <_2> joaopinto thank you.
[15:22] <_2> now anyone know of one ?
[15:22] <kromium> bazhang: yes but this is laptop and when I start installer screen is distorted
[15:22] <joaopinto> _2, please move your question to an appropriate channel, thanks
[15:22] <kromium> bazhang: hence I thought changing resolution may fix this problem
[15:23] <_2> joaopinto ban me!
[15:23] <natnayr89> ﻿hi there, im having a problem with my computer, i think i accidentally changed the /usr folder and recursive all the permissions to chmod 777. Alot of my ubuntu's features and functions are now not working, especially when i cannot mount an external HD. Is there a way to revert to the original?
[15:24] <joaopinto> natnayr89, you should reinstall or restore from a backup
[15:24] <joaopinto> nat2610, a recursive chmod on a system di rcan't be easily rollled back
[15:24] <joaopinto> ops, natnayr89
[15:24] <natnayr89> joapinto: will reinstall cause me to delete my /var and /home folder?
[15:24] <erUSUL> natnayr89: i would backup /home and clone package selections then reinstall and restore backup
[15:24] <erUSUL> !clone | natnayr89
[15:25] <joaopinto> natnayr89, /var yes, /home will not, if you select not to format the installation partition, or if you have created a specific part for it already
[15:26] <joaopinto> natnayr89, chmodding a system dir is always a bad thing to do :\
[15:27] <wang> hello,everybody
[15:27] <Jeaton> hello wang
[15:27] <ohness> natnayr89 -> so take good notes -- put it in your sysadmin notebook of lessons learned
[15:28] <NicEXE> I have just upgraded my PC with MSI ATI R4650 and my desktop looks like a crazy colorful party. What should I do?
[15:28] <wang> I am a new user in ubuntu.just for four days
[15:28] <RogerB> he / she try to set permissions so wouldn't need root to do anything , lol, epic fail
[15:28] <natnayr89> alright thanks then, i'll know now, i did that earlier by accident cause i neeeded to change my /var/www folder and accidently typed in /usr
[15:28] <Jeaton> congrats, wang
[15:28] <natnayr89> if i ever typed in the same mistake, is there a immediate way to revert?
[15:28] <Hans-Martin> hi, I've been experiencing problems with kmediafactory for a long time, and now I finally got around and compiled 0.5.2-4 and that version works again. The ubuntu package which does not work is 0.5.2-0. Who can be bugged to include a working version into the binary repository?
[15:28] <wang> I am a student.
[15:28] <erUSUL> NicEXE: what graphic card did you have prior to the upgrade?
[15:28] <joaopinto> natnayr89, no
[15:28] <natnayr89> joaopinto: ok thanks then
[15:29] <natnayr89> great help, thanks
[15:29] <ohness> wang -> okay, now is a good time to do some linux tutorials
[15:29] <wang> yeah
[15:29] <joaopinto> Hans-Martin, have you filed a bug report about it ?
[15:29] <bazhang> !rute | wang
[15:29] <wang> updating my system now.
[15:29] <MarcN> From one ubuntu/intrepid laptop I can plug in my hp printer/scanner and xsane works; another ubuntu/intrepid fails to find the scanner.  Any idea how to debug?
[15:29] <ohness> wang a good book is by craig sobell  practical guide to ubuntu
[15:30] <NicEXE> erUSUL: I was using my internal graphics (intel GMA950 i believe) provided by my motherboard
[15:30] <Hans-Martin> joaopinto: others have (in May already)
[15:30] <Hans-Martin> joaopinto: I'd have to find the launchpad bug number
[15:30] <erUSUL> NicEXE: did you installed the ati drivers from System>Admin>Hardware drivers ?
[15:31] <ohness> MarcN -> look into using udev rules,  look around /etc/udev/rules.d   for identifying your devices
[15:31] <joaopinto> Hans-Martin, the proper way is to add the info to those bug reports, "this bug is fixed on version x.y.x",
[15:31] <NicEXE> I am trying to but it is still searching for available drivers
[15:32] <Hans-Martin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kmediafactory/+bug/236806 already says which version fixes the problem - that was in June...
[15:32] <Hans-Martin> joaopinto: But I will add an entry confirimg the observation, maybe it helps...
[15:33] <NicEXE> erUSUL: I am trying to but it is still searching for available drivers
[15:33] <wang> I hava a problem:when I use Mplayer to open *.avi,it has no problem,but to open *.rmvb or *.rm,there only hav voice,not graphics
[15:33] <erUSUL> NicEXE: yep i read it... maybe you can try a more "manual" way...
[15:33] <erUSUL> !ati | NicEXE
[15:34] <bazhang> wang, do you have all the codecs installed? have you tried other players such as vlc?
[15:34] <Hans-Martin> wang: it's quite possible that the video codec needed to play the file is not present.
[15:34] <djbeenie> looking for the equivalent of WinSCP for Ubuntu?
[15:34] <wang> I search it by google,
[15:35] <erUSUL> djbeenie: scp
[15:35] <slashme> !vnc
[15:35] <slashme> quit
[15:35] <wang> as it tell me how to do,but I can't find where hava wrong
[15:35] <bazhang> wang, no need; install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:35] <djbeenie> erUSUL, ty!
[15:35] <wang> I will be useful?
[15:35] <erUSUL> djbeenie: np!
[15:36] <bazhang> wang sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:36] <wang> OK, i try
[15:36] <bazhang> wang, the first package I always install :)
[15:36] <anton> bazhang: Those alsa guys didnt help me at all.. they just say ubuntu sucks... -.-
[15:36] <bazhang> anton, just a second I will join you in there
[15:37] <anton> okey thanks
[15:37] <arvind_khadri> anton, may i know what happened?
[15:37] <wang> I try it.
[15:37] <Jeaton> what's bundled in the ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[15:37] <g0r8y> Hi there, is anyone familiar with the program "915resolution" i have an asus eeepc and im trying to create a virtual 1024x768 resolution but not having any joy
[15:37] <wang> just wait a moment
[15:37] <Schuenemann> where do I get the kernel sources? I found in the forums I had to install the linux-tree package, but it seems it does not exist anymore
[15:37] <RogerB> anton you might have sound muted, my sound blaster sometimes after install is muted and i have to go to preferences to have the right volume meter to show up to adjust it
[15:38] <ohness> Jeaton -> you can apt-cache search packagnamehere
[15:38] <wang> I am a student from china.my english is poor.
[15:38] <Jeaton> ok, thanks
[15:38] <arvind_khadri> Jeaton, all the packages that cant be shipped directly... basically the codecs for restricted format
[15:38] <Schuenemann> wang, there is #ubuntu-zh
[15:38] <erUSUL> Schuenemann: linux-source
[15:38] <wang> thanks!
[15:38] <Schuenemann> erUSUL, do I need that package or just the headers will do?
[15:39] <erUSUL> Schuenemann: what are you trying to do ?
[15:39] <wang> lots of student use ubuntu at my school
[15:39] <Schuenemann> erUSUL, rebuild kernel
[15:39] <kjs> ]€#¢
[15:39] <mint_> hi guys, i hyave a problem, i'm trying to use a certificate with java, but it doesn't appear on the moment of select it, but i have already imported it to java and firefox, what can i do?
[15:39] <erUSUL> Schuenemann: you neeed the sources
[15:39] <wang> lots of students use ubuntu at my school
[15:39] <bazhang> wang, for china there is #ubuntu-cn
[15:39] <erUSUL> !kernel | Schuenemann
[15:39] <wang> I know it.
[15:39] <kjs> what is the equiv of the alt key in a mac
[15:39] <kjs> on a mac
[15:39] <wang> I had
[15:39] <kjs> dd
[15:39] <Schuenemann> erUSUL, ok... and then it will end up at /usr/src/, right?
[15:40] <erUSUL> Schuenemann: yep
[15:40] <Schuenemann> erUSUL, thanks
[15:40] <erUSUL> Schuenemann: no problem
[15:40] <bazhang> kjs, dont use the enter key after one word
[15:40] <kjs> bazhang: hving some problems here with backspace damn mac
[15:41] <spionlala> is there anyway to modify the taskbar in gnome so its not possible anymore to move windows under it?
[15:41] <arvind_khadri> spionlala, lock it
[15:42] <lastman> Hi, is it possible to install openoffice 3?
[15:42] <erUSUL> !oo3
[15:42] <arvind_khadri> lastman, ya ...
[15:42] <bazhang> lastman, from a ppa
[15:42] <spionlala> ofc its locked
[15:42] <utremifasola> o.O
[15:42] <carandraug> lastman: yes. Compile it. Or from ppa
[15:42] <wang> waiting feedback... 302 Found
[15:42] <utremifasola> it is possible!  to install openoffice 3!
[15:42] <spionlala> arvind_khadri, its locked
[15:42] <mint_> any idea of t to o with the certificat?
[15:42] <lastman> ppa?
[15:42] <utremifasola> yes it is!
[15:42] <carandraug> !ppa | lastman
[15:42] <bazhang> !ppa > lastman
[15:42] <arvind_khadri> spionlala, lock to panel
[15:42] <RogerB> !info openoffice
[15:43] <spionlala> arvind_khadri, what do you mean lock to panel?
[15:43] <marnold> lastman, let me grab the url for you
[15:43] <ra> Hey,  What is wrong with emulators and 8.10?  I can't get ZNes, or PCSX to work
[15:43] <severin> hey guys, is there any real channel regarding eeebuntu?
[15:43] <arvind_khadri> spionlala, right click on the icon and choose lock to panel
[15:43] <RogerB> open office is in the synaptic package manager
[15:43] <Schuenemann> ra, why not?
[15:44] <bazhang> ra 64bit?
[15:44] <wang>  waiting feedback... 302 Found..can't useful .this command:sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras .
[15:44] <ohness> anyone familiar with ifenslave and bonding? need assist in bonding an eth0 and wifi..  bond0 must use static? how about eth0 and wlan0 ?
[15:44] <carandraug> RogerB: not openoffice 3
[15:44] <ra> Schuenemann, bazhang:  Not 64 bit,  Unsure, I watched a tutorial on Youtube, but it didn't work.  Some of the config menus will not even open
[15:44] <spionlala> arvind_khadri, umm what icon?? the two "icons" (show desktop,desktop-switcher) are both locked
[15:44] <balkian> !info openoffice.org > RogerB
[15:44] <marnold> lastman, https://edge.launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive
[15:44] <bazhang> ra how did you install it
[15:44] <Schuenemann> ra
[15:45] <Schuenemann> ra, how did you install zsnes
[15:45] <arvind_khadri> spionlala, what do you want?
[15:45] <ra> bazhang, Schuenenmann: Synaptic
[15:45] <spionlala> arvind_khadri, and the window bar is also locked
[15:45] <anton_> what is it&
[15:45] <spionlala> arvind_khadri, as i said i dont want to be able to move windows down out of my desktop
[15:45] <spionlala> i want them to stop when they the bottom bar
[15:45] <anton_> omg
[15:45] <spionlala> when they *hit
[15:46] <Schuenemann> ra, and what is happening?
[15:46] <NicEXE> I clicked activate to activate a driver for my MSI ATI GPU but a dialog window says downloading and installing driver with %0 progress for about 10 minutes
[15:46] <bazhang> severin, there is the /msg ubottu factoid ; I tend to get info from wiki at www.eeeuser.com (third party though)
[15:46] <ra> schuenemann: ZNess will not even launch, Installed Znes through Synaptic
[15:46] <arvind_khadri> spionlala, thats compiz
[15:47] <Schuenemann> ra, run it using the console to see any error message
[15:47] <spionlala> arvind_khadri, same problem without compiz
[15:47] <ra> Schuenenmann: PCSX will launch, but I can't configure the display settings and it overall does not work like in Ubuntu 8.04
[15:47] <spionlala> arvind_khadri, snapping windows doesnt help
[15:48] <arvind_khadri> spionlala, hmm... i dont know much .. sorry :)
[15:48] <Schuenemann> ra, don't know about pcsx... never used it
[15:48] <spionlala> ok thx anyway ;)
[15:49] <ohness> anyone familiar with ifenslave and bonding? need assist in bonding an eth0 and wifi..  bond0 must use static? how about eth0 and wlan0 ?
[15:49] <Diiphantom> anywhere where i can get help with virtualbox OSE?
[15:50] <bazhang> Diiphantom, ask and if someone knows they will answer
[15:50] <marnold> ra what arch are you on
[15:51] <Diiphantom> bazhang, thank you, well im tring to install vista in virtualbox everythign is fine but when i click start, the windows pops and stays pitchblack
[15:51] <marnold> amd64 sometimes has problems with emulators
[15:51] <Diiphantom> marnold, is that for me? im using intel quad 2 core
[15:51] <bazhang> Diiphantom, any error messages? need to install the guest tools for example?
[15:52] <Diiphantom> nothing
[15:52] <Diiphantom> those are not installed it hink
[15:52] <bazhang> Diiphantom, and you installed the packages for your kernel?
[15:52] <Diiphantom> the virtualbox-ose-guest-tools
[15:52] <Diiphantom> yes,
[15:52] <spionlala> Diiphantom, since amd was the first one to supply 64 enabled cpus 64bit stuff in linux is always called amd64
[15:52] <ohness> Diiphantom -> you have your vista cdrom inserted?
[15:52] <Diiphantom> and an iso
[15:53] <ohness> !who | Diiphantom
[15:53] <marnold>  Diiphantom no someone asked about zsenes
[15:53] <neodemi> im trying to learn to use python, and i installed the diveintopython package, however i cant find it. does anyone know where it puts the files
[15:54] <Diiphantom> ohness,  and an iso
[15:54] <Diiphantom> bazhang, which files for the kernel?
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> neodemi, IS that package from our repos?
[15:54] <neodemi> yes
[15:54] <ohness> Diiphantom -> when you start the VM it is like a new pc, so it has to find where to boot things from, like if you have the cdrom inserted in
[15:54] <marnold> neodemi, try sudo dpkg -L diveintopython
[15:55] <Diiphantom> ohness, i had vmware in windows to test ubuntu,
[15:55] <bazhang> Diiphantom, does vista allow running in a vm? iirc certain versions did not
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> neodemi, Synaptic can show you where everything was installed in an advanced settings tab or button
[15:55] <Spasysheep> how can i extract audio from an swf video file
[15:55] <Diiphantom> ohness, you have a point let me try a different version, xp :)
[15:55] <neodemi> thanks marnold its in /usr/share/doc
[15:55] <ohness> bazhang -> that i dont know
[15:56] <Schuenemann> is there any difference from downloading the kernel source from the repositories or directly from kernel.org?
[15:56] <lastman> I ve added the url "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu hardy main" to my source list, but I dont know if it is a good idea to trust a scribbler team :)
[15:56] <anton_> how can i include files *.h to my gcc?
[15:56] <ohness> SchneeSchwarz -> i believe there are, but to confirm, download both and do a diff
[15:56] <Diiphantom> bazhang, ** you have a point let me try a different version, xp :)
[15:56] <Spasysheep> how can i extract audio from an swf video file?
[15:57] <bazhang> Spasysheep, please dont repeat so often
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> lastman, If you want opinions or want to take a poll this is the wrong place.. but I would not add other repos
[15:57] <hydrozen> hi, should I be able to mount a floppy disk when using the Ubuntu Live CD?   I dont see any /dev/fd0.... only /dev/fd/
[15:57] <Schuenemann> ohness, the problem is that the versions are different. I actually asked if I could have any problems in compiling a kernel not from the repositories
[15:57] <natnayr89> ﻿!clone | natnayr89
[15:58] <ohness> Schuenemann -> its always possible to have problems when compiling
[15:58] <Diiphantom> do i have to install ¨virtualbox-ose-guest-source?¨
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> schlort, Of course you will have troubles
[15:59] <Diiphantom> bazhang, that i ment to ask you: do i have to install ¨virtualbox-ose-guest-source?¨
[15:59] <Schuenemann> why so?
[15:59] <jim_p> Diiphantom, only if you run ubuntu as a guest os in vbox ose version AND you want to compile something for it yourself
[15:59] <Schuenemann> the repositories only have 2.6.24 and kernel.org has 2.6.28
[15:59] <ohness> Schuenemann -> dependent of what flags or modules you activate
[15:59] <Diiphantom> jim_p, thank you!
[16:00] <lastman> Jack_Sparrow, you re right, but the Ubuntu team takes  too long to set OpenOffice free.
[16:00] <bazhang> Diiphantom, I recall installing the guest tools, not certain about that one but if you dont need it wont hurt to have it anyway
[16:00] <Schuenemann> ohness, can't I get 2.6.28 through the reps?
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Schuenemann, Compiling your own kernels is not on-topic in here.. there are channels just for that.  It is best if you try to compile one and have some understanding so you can ask good - well formed questions
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> lastman, Then do it yourself
[16:00] <jim_p> Schuenemann, ubuntu 8.04 has 2.6.24 and the 2.6.28 was released in XMAS! give some time to the devs, although i think we wont see it in ubuntu
[16:00] <lastman> done
[16:00] <Diiphantom> bazhang, you mean virtualbox-ose-guest-utils?
[16:01] <spionlala> Schuenemann, you could ofc get the 2.6.28 from intrepid, dont forget to get the libc too.
[16:01] <jim_p> Schuenemann, is there a particular reason you want 2.6.28?
[16:01] <FrancisN> Can anyone help me out with a brasero problem?  I'm trying to copy a disc, and it refuses to read at more than 2.8x
[16:01] <Schuenemann> jim_p, no, just to compile my first one
[16:02] <bazhang> Diiphantom, that sounds right; from apt-cache search virtualbox that seem the most likely candidate
[16:02] <spionlala> just check the master kernel thread on ubuntuforums
[16:02] <Schuenemann> Jack_Sparrow, which channels are those?
[16:02] <Diiphantom> xp worked!
[16:02] <Diiphantom> :)
[16:02] <jim_p> Schuenemann, do you use hardware that needs the 2.6.28 kernel (eg nehalem cpus and mobos)? or you want to do it for fun?
[16:02] <spionlala> everything for the beginner there Schuenemann
[16:02] <cubevanbaby> good morning (or your respective time of day depending on where you are in the world)
[16:02] <Diiphantom> i guess its just vista :)
[16:02] <Schuenemann> jim_p, no, I just want to compile a kernel
[16:02] <Schuenemann> spionlala, excuse me?
[16:03] <jim_p> Schuenemann, ok good luck then
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Schuenemann,  #Kernel   would be a place to try..
[16:03] <bazhang> Schuenemann, you can /msg ubottu irc for a link to channel lists
[16:03] <spionlala> Schuenemann, you should check the master kernel thread on ubuntuforums
[16:03] <joejc> whats a small distro with gnome and compiz preinstalled?
[16:03] <bazhang> Schuenemann, also #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:03] <spionlala> and forget #kernel no one will help a noob in there
[16:03] <jim_p> joejc, small as in?
[16:03] <ohness> bazhang -> Diiphantom  confirms it, some vista version dont run in vm
[16:03] <joejc> fits on 2 gb
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> spionlala, which is why I suggested he try one first and make sure to ask good well formed questions as as not to look foolish
[16:04] <Schuenemann> ok, I'll try with my current version
[16:04] <jim_p> Schuenemann, you can always refer to the gentoo wiki for the kernel compilation
[16:04] <bazhang> joejc, minimal install of ubuntu
[16:04] <FrancisN> Can anyone help me out with a brasero problem?  I'm trying to copy a disc, and it refuses to read at more than 2.8x
[16:04] <bazhang> joejc, other distro talk in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:04] <jim_p> joejc, minimal + a light enviroment (gnome-core is 0.5GB+)
[16:05] <recon69> hi all, if I'm getting broken packages when i do an apt-get, is there a way to clean it up?
[16:05] <jim_p> FrancisN, can you also have a look if k3b does the same?
[16:05] <FrancisN> jim_p: I'll check, hang on
[16:05] <jim_p> recon69, depends on what you get
[16:05] <bazhang> FrancisN, copy? a dvd or other
[16:05] <Tobberoth> Just installed ZSNES on a completely updated Ubuntu 8.10 and got this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/93763/
[16:05] <FrancisN> bazhang: cd, drive speed 48x
[16:05] <ChristianBill> How do you install "Keyboard shortcuts", I am missing it from my System tab
[16:05] <LFSveteran> someone using xmail server?
[16:05] <dabbu> is there any note making application which is password protected
[16:05] <Tobberoth> that's when I run it, of course
[16:06] <ohness> FrancisN -> also if they are on same controller, they will be slow
[16:06] <FrancisN> ohness: it's one drive, I'm copying to an image and then to a disk
[16:06] <FrancisN> and jim_p: k3b doesn't give me any options above 16x
[16:06] <recon69> jim_p: well, was looking at the help, there is a clean option and a purge option , whats the difference?
[16:07] <jim_p> ChristianBill, isnt it in System > Preferences ? or in              gnome-control-center
[16:07] <ohness> FrancisN -> i'd say just be patient, those numbers you throw around dont mean much really, cdrom are slow they have moving parts
[16:07] <jim_p> recon69, purge = remove an app and its settings
[16:07] <FrancisN> ohness: trust me, this is slower than windows.  It's taken over 20 minutes and 1 cd still isn't done
[16:07] <jim_p> recon69, clean = clean the cache of downloaded packages (or semi-downloaded)
[16:08] <ohness> FrancisN -> okay it is up to you
[16:08] <recon69> jim_p: I try a clean , and the try find the package that causing the problem, thx
[16:08] <jim_p> FrancisN, 16x for a dvd disk?
[16:08] <jim_p> FrancisN, also look for buffer underruns
[16:08] <FrancisN> jim_p: I dunno, K3b only gives me an option up to 16x and I'm trying to read a CD, on a drive of 48x speed
[16:08] <FrancisN> I checked, DMA is enabled
[16:09] <FrancisN> I've burned images with brasero before, and it only went up to 16x burn, but that was better than 2x read
[16:09] <bullgard4> [MetaCity] What is the name of the function which makes that a window snaps when I move it using Touchpad, for example when I move it next to another window?
[16:10] <mankash> does ubuntu have rar utility
[16:10] <RogerB> mankash, yes
[16:10] <jim_p> mankash, its called a plugin in linux language
[16:10] <bazhang> !rar > mankash
[16:10] <natnayr89> hi, could someone pls explain to me the cloning process, im a little lost with using 'aptitude'
[16:11] <copper> quit sending guys over to #alsa god damn it
[16:11] <jim_p> natnayr89, cloning of what?
[16:11] <spionlala> haha copper :D
[16:11] <natnayr89> jim_p: cloning of packages using aptitude
[16:11] <copper> ATTENTION UBUNTU OVERLORDS: ALSA != Pulse Audio
[16:11] <copper> Thank you.
[16:12] <natnayr89> the ubuntu bot  explains in !clone |  natnayr89
[16:12] <NicEXE> I have just upgraded my PC with MSI ATI R4650 (1GB) but everything looks corrupted and too colorful. what can I do?
[16:12] <RogerB> seems obvious if someone had a alsa problem, alsa channel would be the solution
[16:12] <Tobberoth> Ah seems that ZSNES is indeed broken on intrepid :(
[16:12] <jim_p> copper, may i ask the reason?
[16:12] <copper> you guys fuck up audio, you guys fix it
[16:12] <spionlala> if they come tell them to check the pulseaudio thread on ubuntuforums copper :)
[16:12] <FrancisN> copper: You might want to try being marginally polite while you're at it.
[16:12] <hajar> please ..pray for god for Gaza .. they die
[16:12] <spionlala> FrancisN, well copper is right
[16:12] <copper> FrancisN: I'm well beyond the point where I can remain polite
[16:12] <spionlala> utter noobs get sent to channels were they not belong
[16:13] <spionlala> *where
[16:13] <copper> I'm fucking tired of getting noobs turfed over to us
[16:13] <RogerB> dude watch your language
[16:13] <copper> RogerB: watch your noobs
[16:13] <FrancisN> Can anyone tell me why Brasero is only reading my CD at 2x instead of drive-supported 48x?
[16:13] <copper> and I'll watch my language
[16:14] <jim_p> copper, well... tell them to remove pulseaudio and that alsa has no responsibility for their "situation"
[16:14] <natnayr89> ﻿jim_p: hi so could u explain !clone? its for transfering the installed packages in ubuntu over to another machine
[16:14] <mrwes> copper: how was your holiday? :)
[16:14] <onetinsoldier> natnayr89: what do you need explained exactly? i'll try to a little here.... it takes 'just the name' of all the packages that are currently installed on your system. then on the target system, it marks all those same packages for installation. then you give a command that tells it to download all those packages and install them. then when it's finished, you have exactly all the same packages installed on the target system as
[16:14] <onetinsoldier> are installed on the originating system
[16:14] <jim_p> natnayr89, sorry mate, i know nothing about it
[16:14] <copper> jim_p: doing that 10 times a day gets old
[16:15] <jim_p> copper, oh sorry then. i promise to keep them here and tell them to do so
[16:15] <jim_p> as long as i am here of course
[16:15] <mankash> how to use rar in ubuntu
[16:15] <eghdagon> hi
[16:15] <marco__> hi
[16:15] <musictoto> !rar>mankash
[16:15] <spionlala> sudo apt-get install unrar
[16:15] <eghdagon> how r u
[16:15] <Schuenemann> mankash, try man rar
[16:16] <copper> Just remember: Ubuntu 8.10 uses Pulse Audio by default, so if a noob comes here saying his audio is broken, don't send them over to #alsa, kthxbai
[16:16] <jim_p> mankash, sudo apt-get install unrar                  and open rar archives with the compression utility you are provided
[16:16] <jim_p> copper, by DEFAULT?
[16:16] <linny> hi peeps i trust a good christmas was had by all , i was wondering if its possible for me to install windows alongside an existing ubuntu 804 installation i could resize the disk with gparted then innstall windows then im kinda stuck how would i get some sort of boot menu up ?
[16:16] <RogerB> lies
[16:16] <RogerB> my ubuntu 8.10 had alsa as default
[16:16] <RogerB> pffft
[16:16] <natnayr89> onetinsoldier: so how do i mark them all in aptitude in cmd line?
[16:17] <jim_p> RogerB, i have alsa too... but i never installed pulseaudio!
[16:17] <copper> RogerB: are you telling me noobs who don't know anything ran Pulse Audio by themselves?
[16:17] <RogerB> i did
[16:17] <RogerB> i had alsa, didn't know a thing
[16:17] <mrwes> RogerB: if sound is set to autodetect, how would I know which is being used?
[16:17] <RogerB> and have pulse audio with 6 channels now
[16:18] <rod_> Hi Im looking for a howto to install nvidia 180 drivers on intrepid... Someone got some links? Cant find any
[16:18] <spionlala> pulseaudio is installed by default.
[16:18] <jim_p> can you please calm down ?
[16:18] <onetinsoldier> natnayr89: how are you trying to go about cloning exactly?
[16:18] <nickrud> this is not a channel for arguing over what audio subsystem is in use: if you want to argue go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:18] <jim_p> rod_, what gpu are you on?
[16:18] <rod_> jim_p nvidia 7600go
[16:18] <spionlala> rod_ uninstall ubuntu nvidia packages, boot into rootshel run ./nvidiainstallerblabla.sh
[16:18] <linny> i was wondering if its possible for me to install windows alongside an existing ubuntu 804 installation i could resize the disk with gparted then innstall windows then im kinda stuck how would i get some sort of boot menu up ?
[16:18] <FrancisN> Can someone help me figure out why Brasero is only reading a regular cd at 1.6x?
[16:18] <copper> nickrud: just don't send people over to #alsa unless Pulse Audio is completely disabled, thanks
[16:18] <rod_> spionlala, i would like to use a ppa
[16:18] <spionlala> rod_ well thats not possible!
[16:19] <nickrud> copper, a good point. Sound is black magic in linux for most of us
[16:19] <rod_> anders-kaseorg
[16:19] <jim_p> rod_, do what spionlala says, but in any case i would go with the repos
[16:19] <eghdagon> what is the best computer to use ubuntu in
[16:19] <duffydack> FrancisN: brasero doesnt compare to K3B, use that
[16:19] <rod_> spionlala and jim_p are you aware of the ppa of anders-kaseorg ?
[16:19] <nickrud> copper, but also, please respect our G rated dialog
[16:19] <jim_p> eghdagon, a non ati one :P
[16:19] <Hans-Martin> linny: that way round it's probably a bit difficult - it's much easier if you have an existing windows install.
[16:19] <spionlala> rod_ oh no i wasnt
[16:19] <jim_p> rod_, no :(
[16:19] <eghdagon> oh ok tyvm
[16:19] <spionlala> rod_ so just at the ppa get the drivers activate in jockey? :d
[16:19] <spionlala> +add
[16:19] <lakcaj> linny, if possible, install windows first, and then install ubuntu, and ubuntu will auto-detect the other OS and add a grub boot option for it
[16:19] <copper> nickrud: please respect our time and my effing nerves
[16:20] <jim_p> duffydack, i think he used k3b
[16:20] <FrancisN> duffydack: will try
[16:20] <lakcaj> linny, I've never done it the other way around
[16:20] <pikario> hi, how can i connect to a wireless network using terminal?
[16:20] <linny> Hans-Martin: i realise this but i have an ubuntu installation i need to keep
[16:20] <eghdagon> oh an it will run better
[16:20] <AshTray-> Hi guys. Any ideea how can I install hp 3320 deskjet printer on ubuntu server ?
[16:20] <nickrud> copper, I can't control where people send noobs all the time, but I can enforce language requirements
[16:20] <sudobash> lakcaj I have and what you have to do is use Gparted LiveCD and repartition Ubuntu for XP
[16:20] <jim_p> pikario, with encryption and the like? and dhcp?
[16:20] <copper> nickrud: use /topic or the join notice, I don't know
[16:20] <pikario> no encryption, just dhcp and an ssid
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> copper, Obfuscated swearing is still swearing. we dont accept it of our users.. Please keep the room family friendly.
[16:21] <eghdagon> so 98 is not the real good tpo run it in
[16:21] <nickrud> copper, we do need to get a better sound troubleshooting system in place. Noted
[16:21] <jim_p> pikario, i would alter the /etc/network/interfaces and restart network
[16:21] <lakcaj> sudobash, right, but what bootloader ends up being installed?  I doubt that after XP overwrites the bootloader with its own that it'll be nice and add an option for ubuntu
[16:21] <sudobash> it is harder because you have to create your own grub menu
[16:21] <spionlala> kids shouldnt be allowed on the internet without parental guidance anyway so who cares
[16:21] <Hans-Martin> linny: when you have made a suitable free partition, you will probably have success by first booting from and installing from the windows installation media, then booting with the Ubuntu CD to let it detect the situation - however I don't know how exactly you would keep your existing install intact
[16:21] <sudobash> lakcaj after bootloader is overwritten you need Super Grub Disk
[16:21] <rod_> spionlala, guess  i try this jockey thing....      What i did before was apt-get install nvidia-glx-180, which also takes the headers and kernel source... but modprobing nvidia fails without error... but now i see i got it working i think, bbl after x restart
[16:21] <AMDMutant> spionlala: :)
[16:21] <duffydack> you can make an image of cd/dvd in ubuntu if you right click the drive and copy disc..
[16:22] <sudobash> and you can install grub or lilo
[16:22] <pikario> jim_p, i mean how do you do it like on-the-go without editing that file? like ifconfig wlan0 or something?
[16:22] <copper> nickrud: Ubuntu users make up for at least 50% of the people who come in #alsa, any maybe 95% of those really have a problem with Pulse Audio, not ALSA
[16:22] <lakcaj> sudobash, ok - it's actuall linny that's trying to accomlish this.  Linny - did you see sudobash comment about "Super Grub Disk"?
[16:22] <sudobash> and then you will have to prolly add the XP partition in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> sudobash, sggr is seldom any better than using ubuntu livecd and grub-install
[16:22] <nickrud> copper do you have a good suggestion for where to send them? I will remind people about not bugging alsa ;)
[16:22] <fantomas> How to upgrade kernel to .27 on 8.04 except of building it from scratch?
[16:22] <tet3> Hi - running off of Live CD - my wireless card (Atheros 802.11) says it's supported under System -> Admin -> Hardware Drivers, but I can't get wirless connection to work. Any hints?
[16:22] <linny>  lakcaj: no i didnt pls explain
[16:22] <jim_p> pikario, for this case you need to use an extra "network management layer" like network manager, wicd, wifiradar and some i cant remember
[16:23] <sudobash> Jack_sparrow we were talking about dualbooting with XP installed first
[16:23] <copper> nickrud: either #ubuntu since Ubuntu decided to force Pulse Audio onto its users, or #pulseaudio
[16:23] <tet3> The "sudo lshw -C network" in helkp shows the device as UNCLAIMED
[16:23] <jim_p> tet3, does it scan the networks around it?
[16:23] <Jack_Sparrow> sudobash, YEs.. exactly
[16:23] <mrwes> I get this error when running GNOME alsa mixer: Bad key or directory name: "/apps/gnome-alsamixer/slider_display_names/SigmaTel_STAC9750,51-Master": `,' is an invalid character in key/directory names
[16:23] <eghdagon> well i have in a dell gx260
[16:23] <NuMaStresa> I just bought a domain, how can I point to my computer using www.name.com ?
[16:23] <sudobash> thanks for your concern though... I would always use Ubuntu and not install XP first
[16:23] <sudobash> but I do know that this method works
[16:23] <ferry997> ciao
[16:23] <Diiphantom> what do i select for in the virtualbox for sound to work for windows virtualinstall?
[16:23] <ferry997>  !list
[16:23] <nickrud> copper, thanks. I'll look around the bot links and docs. And poke the sound guys to improve docs
[16:23] <Jack_Sparrow> copper, Please take it to PM or to -ops.. this is not the place to discuss it
[16:23] <copper> Thank you.
[16:23] <jim_p> Diiphantom, its some audio tick you have to put in settings of the guest os
[16:23] <copper> Jack_Sparrow: I'm done.
[16:24] <duffydack> Diiphantom: i use Pulse without any problems
[16:24] <tet3> No - I tried entering my mom's fully-open SSID directly, but no dice. (She lives in a rural area - no security needed.)
[16:24] <Diiphantom> ty
[16:24] <sudobash> If done correctly the Gparted / SGD method with get your dualbooted if you have installed XP..... I didn't say how easy it would be
[16:24] <RogerB> <--- loves his pulse audio :)
[16:24] <Diiphantom> duffydack, can i select it or change it while its running or have to stop it>?
[16:24] <duffydack> only cuz it doesnt interfere with any other sounds in ubuntu, like alsa
[16:24] <fantomas> How to upgrade kernel to .27 on 8.04 except of building it from scratch?
[16:24] <jim_p> tet3, can you try removeing network manager and installing pulseaudio?
[16:24] <mrwes> copper: any idea on this error? Bad key or directory name: "/apps/gnome-alsamixer/slider_display_names/SigmaTel_STAC9750,51-Master": `,' is an invalid character in key/directory names
[16:24] <duffydack> i guess you`d have to shutdown the guest first.
[16:25] <Jack_Sparrow> sudobash, If he has XP installed and is installing ubuntu why would he need super grub repair
[16:25] <lakcaj> linny, well, it looks like you have a couple options.  Make a partition for windows, install it along side ubuntu.  Then you could either:  (a) Use the ubuntu liveCD and run grub-install again to detect all the operating systems and create menu items, or (b) Use Super Grub Disk to do the same
[16:25] <Diiphantom> duffydack, how can i see my files from ubuntu in windows?
[16:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Diiphantom, ext2fs
[16:25] <jim_p> fantomas, by using an intrepid repo and prey to apt powers            apt-get install -t intrepid something-to-install
[16:25] <lakcaj> Jack_Sparrow, he has ubuntu installed and is installing XP
[16:25] <sudobash> or wait he has Ubuntu installed first
[16:25] <duffydack> set a shared folder in vbox
[16:25] <eghdagon> i webrooted the hard drive an straight instaled ubutuntu
[16:25] <sudobash> and is trying to install XP
[16:25] <onetinsoldier> Diiphantom: do a google search on   'ext2 IFS'
[16:25] <jim_p> tet3, sorry my answer was nonsense
[16:25] <jim_p> :(
[16:25] <Diiphantom> im using a virtualbox to do this
[16:26] <sudobash> so he needs to repartition prolly and have SGD handy just in case
[16:26] <Diiphantom> not dualboot
[16:26] <jim_p> tet3, give me a sec to eat and i will find you a solution
[16:26] <fantomas> jim_p: so, there is no a kind of backports for hardy?
[16:26] <Jack_Sparrow> lakcaj, That is what I thought. and he still does not need sgr as I have seen it mess up more than I have seen it work.
[16:26] <onetinsoldier> Diiphantom: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[16:26] <tet3> thanks, jim_p
[16:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[16:26] <Diiphantom> duffydack, i did that and selected my home folder but then where should it show in the virtual?
[16:26] <fantomas> jim_p: I'm afraid of moving to intrepid..
[16:26] <nando> nd
[16:26] <malaik-a> !seen mel
[16:26] <jim_p> fantomas, a kernel is something really big to backport
[16:26] <sudobash> Diiphantom to see a Linux partition in windows use Explore2FS
[16:26] <malaik-a> !seen mef*
[16:26] <duffydack> then do net use x: \\vboxsvr\sharename
[16:26] <duffydack> in windows
[16:26] <jim_p> fantomas, plus backports are "patches" to existing packages
[16:27] <Jack_Sparrow> malaik-a, Please stop
[16:27] <fantomas> jim_p: where can I take config to use it for building my own kernel? from /boot?
[16:27] <duffydack> x being the drive letter you want..
[16:27] <jim_p> fantomas, dunno that
[16:27] <sudobash> Jack_Sparrow I have never seen SGD fail and I have used it over 100 times I am sure
[16:27] <kashanki> how do i see the wvdial.conf of gnome-ppp ??:
[16:27] <Diiphantom> uhm confused there
[16:27] <sudobash> it only fails if you do something wrong
[16:27] <eghdagon> well happy new year everyone but i have to go for now take care
[16:27] <nando> dead_end
[16:27] <tet3> I'm thinking that since it seems very likely that I'll get my wireless to work, I should just go ahead and install rather than try to troubleshoot on Live CD.
[16:27] <tuxxy__> anyone know of a USB wireless adapter that works out of the box with Intrepid
[16:27] <duffydack> sudobash: he wants to access network shares
[16:27] <lakcaj> linny:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[16:27] <onetinsoldier> Diiphantom: confused by...?
[16:27] <razor1394> I need help with very slow 2d rendering under Jaunty alpha 2 with 3200hd. Same misery with radeon, ati and radeonhd. Please help.
[16:28] <Jack_Sparrow> sudobash, It is not the cure all you make it out to be.  And I have a better than average understanding of drives and partitions and ubuntu
[16:28] <duffydack> set a share in the virtual machines settings... then when in windows guest goto command line (start/run) and net use x: \\vboxsvr\sharename
[16:28] <ohness> razor1394 -> too new, jaunty   you are in the wrong channel my friend
[16:28] <hole_> i have ndiswrapper running and my hardware is recognized but i'm still nnot clear how to list my available wireless networks
[16:28] <Diiphantom> onetinsoldier, im following duffydack, ty
[16:28] <sudobash> Well all i am saying is I have never seen it fubar anything or not work for me... it has helped me out many times
[16:28] <jim_p> tuxxy__, i will test this http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.616454 in some days. it seems its module is in the kernel since... last year
[16:28] <HeinHein> Hi, before I've got my domain affiliated "HeinHein". why now it's a typical domain?
[16:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[16:28] <ohness> hole_ -> same command  iwconfig
[16:29] <ohness> hole_ -> to scan  iwlist wlan0 scan
[16:29] <sudobash> !SGF
[16:29] <sudobash> !SGD
[16:29] <razor1394> ohness -> which channel is correct?
[16:29] <sudobash> !SuperGrub
[16:29] <Diiphantom> duffydack, im gona read the manual idk its not wroking
[16:29] <recon69> help, tried installing "sudo apt-get mc" the package failed and now keep getting error from apt-get -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/93778/
[16:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !fishing > sudobash
[16:29] <ohness> razor1394 -> try #ubuntu+1 maybe
[16:29] <duffydack> so like share your home folder and call it shared so you`d have net use z: \\vboxsvr\shared
[16:30] <sudobash> You must have had a bad Christmas Jack_Sparrow
[16:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > sudobash
[16:30] <joshp> I am unable to affect screen brightness since upgrading to intrepid
[16:30] <sudobash> oh no
[16:30] <hole_> no scan results (ndiswrapper says my hardware is there)
[16:30] <joshp> it hurts my eyes
[16:30] <nickrud> recon69, we need to see the complete error, not just the end
[16:30] <duffydack> Diiphantom: shutdown the guest first..  works fine for me
[16:30] <sudobash> hole actually ndiswrapper has been denounced by Linus
[16:30] <joshp> is there an intel graphics control panel?
[16:31] <cubevanbaby> hey hey question for you all. I'm using xfce and thunbar and feh. I am now able to right click and set a wallpaper which is awesome. I wanted to try getting it to work at startup and added the following to my autostarted programs eval `cat $HOME/.fehbg` & but it doesn't seem to work. Then I tried using another feh command where I specified a filename but I can;t remember off the top. didn't work though. LOL any
[16:31] <cubevanbaby> one have any other ideas?
[16:31] <Roggy> how do i share folders with Windows XP host and Linux Ubuntu 8.04 guest? I already selected it from the settings, but I don't know what to do next
[16:31] <ohness> sudobash stop the trolling or else you will get banned
[16:31] <hole_> so how can i get this wifi card working
[16:31] <exodus_ms> !wifi
[16:31] <duffydack> Diiphantom: also, something to point out is there is a newer version of vbox (2.1)  make sure you're using it
[16:31] <ohness> hole_ -> what is the results of iwconfig
[16:31] <Abidel> Hello! First time user here
[16:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !hi
[16:31] <Abidel> thanks
[16:31] <hole_> i'll pastbin then brb
[16:32] <marc__> wie gehts leute
[16:32] <sudobash> so telling someone they might want to download SGD cause it can be a useful tool when doing what they are doing, and getting harassed by an OP is trolling?
[16:32] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: try making a file called .xsession. start it at the top with   #! /bin/bash
[16:32] <joshp> is there a way to downgrade back to gutsy
[16:32] <Roggy> how do i share folders with Windows XP host and Linux Ubuntu 8.04 guest? I already selected it from the settings, but I don't know what to do next
[16:32] <sudobash> idiots
[16:32] <ohness> Jack_Sparrow -> do you thang
[16:32] <ohness> Jack_Sparrow -> do your thang
[16:32] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: then put your feh command in it next. let me know if that works ok
[16:32] <sysrpx> hello, what is a good program for ubuntu to create and burn a dvd from an avi?
[16:32] <musictoto> !repeat > Roggy
[16:32] <cubevanbaby> ahhhhhh brilliant onetinsoldier thanks
[16:32] <Abidel> I'm using ubuntu 8.04 - my computer can actknowledge each other, but can not view. Any ideas!?
[16:33] <joshp> my eyeballs hurt because i upgraded to intrepid and brightness control is gone
[16:33] <RogerB> !samba
[16:33] <hole_> http://pastebin.com/m5fe09b3a
[16:33] <RogerB> !samba | Roggy
[16:33] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: you're welcome, i just hope that works ok for you. i'm pretty sure it will though
[16:33] <nickrud> recon69, you could show us the complete output of   sudo apt-get -f install
[16:33] <sysrpx> anyone?
[16:33] <recon69> nickrud: thx, error seems to have gone away.
[16:33] <exodus_ms> !anyone
[16:34] <cubevanbaby> I'm sure there is a way. just a matter of finding it. I'm finding with linux that there's a million ways to do stuff and one of them will surely work! lol
[16:34] <sysrpx> hello, what is a good program for ubuntu to create and burn a dvd from an avi?
[16:34] <joshp> how do you control intel graphics in ubuntu?
[16:34] <onetinsoldier> sysrpx: burn a file to a dvd? an avi file?
[16:34] <nickrud> recon69, bummer. I love doing surgery on the package database ;)
[16:34] <pikario> !hi | joshp
[16:34] <duffydack> sysrpx: make a dvd compliant disc from an avi ?  dont know of one, without using a million cli tools...
[16:35] <sysrpx> to create a dvd movie playable in any standard consumer dvd player from an avi/mp4 movie file
[16:35] <Hans-Martin> sysrpx: I'm using avidemux to cut and convert source videos (DVB in my case, but AVI should work as well) and kmediafactory for creating the DVD.
[16:35] <onetinsoldier> sysrpx: oh, if your asking to do what duffydack just said, then i don't know either
[16:35] <RogerB> would nero linux convert and burn it
[16:35] <duffydack> the linux version of nero might be able to do it by now, i dont know...all i can suggest
[16:36] <sysrpx> hrmm
[16:36] <sysrpx> thanks for the responses
[16:36] <duffydack> sysrpx: or get a dvd player like mine that can play wmv/avi :)
[16:36] <Hans-Martin> sysrpx: but kmediafactory 0.5.2-0 as contained in Hardy has a bug, I had to compile 0.5.2-4 from sources
[16:36] <Abidel> remote desktop doesn't connect to my other computer - any thoughts?
[16:36] <sysrpx> daffy: i was going to burn some movies for friends as gifts
[16:36] <sysrpx> non computer people
[16:37] <reehan> hello room
[16:37] <joshp> ubuntu user with intel 965 graphics seeks way to adjust brightness
[16:37] <onetinsoldier> !hi | reehan
[16:37] <duffydack> sysrpx: get a decent usenet account and download the dvd then :)
[16:38] <reehan> i have 2GB of ram,but my ubuntu uses only 380mb of the ram at the max,even at intensive workloads,
[16:38] <sysrpx> these are avi torrents of movies not out in theaters yet
[16:38] <reehan> infact after 380 mb it uses swap space, but doesnt exceed usage of ram
[16:38] <cubevanbaby> ?? weird. onetinsoldier it says writing error Writing error when attempting to save /home/user/.xsession
[16:38] <sysrpx> i got that new clint eastwood movie to burn
[16:38] <reehan> is there any way to make full use of ram under ubuntu??
[16:38] <reehan> please help
[16:38] <duffydack> sysrpx: yeah and they usually have a dvd made from em
[16:39] <nickrud> joshp, you can use xgamma:   like, xgamma -gamma 0.2   (1.0 is normal)
[16:39] <pikario> !hi | joshp
[16:39] <duffydack> which usenet would be better for...
[16:39] <AMDMutant> reehan: ???
[16:39] <sysrpx> duffydack: i usually don't dl from usenet
[16:39] <Abidel> what is the best proxy to use?
[16:39] <g0r8y> anyone familiar with diagnosing 915resolution problems? I followed this guide (http://slibuntu.wordpress.com/2007/03/13/using-915resolution-to-change-resolution/) no apparent errors but X still restarts in 800x480 - is there anything special i need in my xorg.conf?
[16:39] <reehan> I have 2 GB of ram in my laptop..but only 380 mb is utilised
[16:39] <duffydack> torrents are ok but the uploading bs and the lifespan really grips my sh*t
[16:39] <reehan> how do i use the unused ram?
[16:39] <pikario> joshp, are you here?!
[16:39] <joshp> yes
[16:39] <Hans-Martin> reehan: normally ubuntu uses the full RAM - so there must be some problem with your setup. You should run dmesg and see what it says about memory
[16:40] <nickrud> reehan,   free  will tell you the actual usage
[16:40] <sysrpx> duffydack: my ispdoesn't  hold onto biinary usenet posts for very long and i don't want to ppay for usenet services
[16:40] <joshp> changing the gamma setting from 1.0 makes it less bright
[16:40] <pikario> System->Preferences->Power Management !
[16:40] <nickrud> joshp, you can use higher numbers to brighten the screen
[16:40] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: hmmm, does sound weird. do you already have a file in your home dir named .xsession?
[16:40] <joshp> brightness isnt adjustable from power management anymore, ever since i upgraded to intrepid
[16:40] <reehan> nickrud: isnt the space shown by system monitor rite?
[16:40] <g0r8y> paid usernet ftw - its cheap and best QOS out there, even compared to things like sky imo
[16:41] <nickrud> reehan, yes, but free is more complete
[16:41] <duffydack> costs me £20 for 3 months fast as hell
[16:41] <RogerB> reehan, i got 2 gb ram and use 0% of swap and all runs fine here for me so i wouldn't worry to much about it
[16:41] <nickrud> reehan, might show that it's using the rest as cache
[16:41] <reehan> nickrud: how can thr be such a difference in both? system monitor shows only 380mb used
[16:41] <cubevanbaby> I did with /usr/bin/icewm-session already in it. I tried just editing the existing file.
[16:41] <AMDMutant> reehan: or memstat
[16:42] <sysrpx> Gran Torino with Clint Eastwood ~ 80% Done
[16:42] <nickrud> reehan, reporting differences
[16:42] <tuxkeren> halo
[16:42] <duffydack> well all i can suggest then is run xp in a virtualbox and use nero... or look for  a guide on the net using ubuntu tools
[16:42] <onetinsoldier> reehan: just because a process uses a lot of cpu doesn't mean it needs a lot of ram
[16:42] <Jack_Sparrow> sysdoc, We need to lose the piracy talk in this channel
[16:42] <duffydack> telesyncs and such arent worth the work tho for me.. i only grab r5 or retail dvds.
[16:42] <reehan> RogerB: what is the maximum intensive workload u have given? usage of swap depends on it
[16:42] <RogerB> convert the avi to a wmv and most modern dvd players play wmv
[16:43] <RogerB> and mpeg
[16:43] <duffydack> RogerB: if they do that they do avi
[16:43] <reehan> onetinsoldier: ya i agree, but when a process has some free space in ram and even then its using swap space thats not good
[16:43] <RogerB> more than likely
[16:43] <RogerB> the one i have even does divx so zzzzzzz
[16:43] <sysrpx> i can't test the dvd ... it's for a friend and i don't want to "test" his present
[16:43] <quatar-it> hi all. Why can't i use my sound card if only some other open application has been using it?
[16:43] <alinet> hay guys
[16:44] <roy_hobbs> Hey.  How do I indicate in a syslinux.cfg file that the boot image is on another partition?  I can't find an option like the "root" option for GRUB's menu.lst
[16:44] <g0r8y> duffydack: not necessarily - avi can be anything
[16:44] <alinet> i just got ubuntu 8.10
[16:44] <duffydack> i associate avi with divx/xvid.
[16:44] <AMDMutant> reehan: now that is
[16:44] <alinet> it's cool but the problem is Restricted drivers
[16:44] <duffydack> theyre nothing but , what i use
[16:44] <g0r8y> daffydack: same =) but thats not its litteral meaning
[16:44] <Jack_Sparrow> roy_hobbs, root		(hd0,5)               like that?
[16:45] <roy_hobbs> Jack_Sparrow: isn't that for Menu.lst though?
[16:45] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: oh, look at the permissions of that file. make sure that you do have write permission to it
[16:45] <manzara> hiçbiþey anlamadým
[16:45] <Jack_Sparrow> roy_hobbs, Sorry, thought that is where you were looking..
[16:46] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier, argh you're right I don't apparently
[16:46] <Schuenemann> jim_p, about the kernel rebuild again, my howto says I should apply some patches to the sources, but I don't have any patches from the kernel file I got. Is this a problem?
[16:46] <onetinsoldier> natnayr89: hello.. welcome back
[16:46] <Abidel> how do I view other computers on my network
[16:46] <roy_hobbs> Jack_Sparrow: no, i'm trying to set up a boot usb with two partitions using syslinux - to piggyback onto the ubuntu live usb
[16:46] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, roger
[16:46] <natnayr89> hi, im having a problem mounting my external harddrive
[16:46] <cubevanbaby> weird. how do I get it.
[16:46] <musictoto> natnayr89: what's the problem ?
[16:47] <musictoto> natnayr89: it doesn't mount ?
[16:47] <jim_p> Schuenemann, depends on what the patches do
[16:47] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: who is the owner of the file? show me the output of  ls -l .xsession
[16:47] <natnayr89> ﻿musictoto: hi, i cant seem to mount my hard drive, its due to a security problem where the permissions in my /usr folder was recursived to be 777
[16:47] <g0r8y> arg this problem is so annoying - my screen res cropps the bottom of the pokerroom.com java applet
[16:47] <Schuenemann> jim_p, it is a generic tutorial. I mean it is possible the sources come without any patches to be applied, right?
[16:48] <n8tuser> Schuenemann -> i thought you were just doing this for fun, try it without the patches, continue compiling
[16:48] <natnayr89> ﻿musictoto: is there a way for me to temporaryly mount my HD so i can begin reinstalling ubuntu?
[16:48] <natnayr89> ﻿musictoto: kinda need to move the packages and files.
[16:48] <g0r8y> does anyone know if i can trick jre into thinking my screen res is bigger?
[16:48] <enskap> hi @ all : i search a german ubuntu irc channel
[16:48] <musictoto> natnayr89: i think so, yes. what's the filetype ?
[16:48] <Jack_Sparrow> roy_hobbs, Cant help with that one..  I have only done a few os on usb..
[16:48] <jim_p> Schuenemann, yea
[16:48] <nickrud> !de | enskap
[16:48] <musictoto> natnayr89: i mean filesystem
[16:48] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier, crap I think it belongs to the other user. hold on -_-' lol
[16:48] <natnayr89> ﻿musictoto: ntsc
[16:48] <Schuenemann> n8tuser, jim_p, alright, thanks again
[16:49] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: in your home dir? i don't know why it would....
[16:49] <natnayr89> ﻿musictoto: the windows kind i think
[16:49] <enskap> THX
[16:49] <musictoto> natnayr89: open a terminal window in ubuntu, then type 'sudo fdisk-l' without the quotes
[16:49] <cubevanbaby> hmm hold on
[16:50] <musictoto> natnayr89: with the drive attached to your computer
[16:50] <onetinsoldier> k
[16:50] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier, -rw-r--r-- 2 root root 23 2008-07-27 17:50 .xsession
[16:50] <bjstick> ubuntu ate my computer
[16:50] <cubevanbaby> sorry I don't usually paste in channel I figured if it was a small one liner it's all good. Just getting aquainted with the place heh ^_^
[16:50] <quatar-it> hi all. If my problem is that my sound card won't be used by more than one app together, and i have a sony vaio, is the solution here: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/Audio/HdaIntel#head-134964679d4e7c1bf49c672f04e0b22becedadcd ?
[16:50] <musictoto> natnayr89: then look up your drive, and check the filesystem...
[16:50] <bullgard4> [MetaCity] What is the name of the function which makes that a window snaps when I move it using Touchpad, for example when I move it next to another window?
[16:51] <Jack_Sparrow> bjstick, Please explain and avoid unsupported comments like that
[16:51] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: have you ever started X Windows as the root user somehow?
[16:51] <natnayr89> ﻿musictoto: its NTFS sry
[16:51] <musictoto> natnayr89:  ok
[16:51] <natnayr89> HPFS/NTFS to be accurate
[16:51] <rich_> channel
[16:52] <bjstick> well i left my laptop around and my dog, Ubuntu, got a hold of it
[16:52] <rich_> #channel
[16:52] <natnayr89> ﻿musictoto:    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[16:52] <natnayr89> /dev/sdb1   *           1       19457   156288321    7  HPFS/NTFS
[16:52] <rich_> sorry
[16:52] <bjstick> it wasn't pretty ;-)
[16:52] <musictoto> natnayr89: yes, good. i'll be with you within a few seconds
[16:52] <Jack_Sparrow> bjstick, Cute, but more appropiate for a chat channel.
[16:52] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier, not that I know of... :-/
[16:52] <natnayr89> ﻿musictoto: thank you
[16:52] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, hang on
[16:54] <kovacs> hy
[16:54] <gocrazynow> hi and marry xmas to all
[16:54] <atlef> merry xmas
[16:54] <kovacs> pls help me
[16:54] <gocrazynow> and i'm having problems with installing php on ubuntu
[16:54] <gocrazynow> can run php script
[16:54] <gocrazynow> can't, sorry
[16:54] <kovacs> pls help
[16:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask > kovacs
[16:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !lamp > gocrazynow
[16:54] <gocrazynow> ok thx
[16:55] <joshp> my brightness control only works when I change brightness and then reboot
[16:55] <natnayr89> ﻿gocrazynow: apache file folder should be under /var/www
[16:55] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: i have a question for you. if someone has a .xsession file in their home dir, should that file be owned by them? or by root? do you know?
[16:55] <nickrud> gocrazynow, you mean for apache? install libapache2-mod-php
[16:55] <nickrud> onetinsoldier, themselves
[16:55] <gocrazynow> yeah, and it work, i downloaded and loaded that mod
[16:55] <gocrazynow> server work and apache runs well
[16:55] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: ok, great. thank you!
[16:55] <natnayr89> ﻿gocrazynow: u need to install php5
[16:56] <RogerB> gksudo /op/lampp/lampp startapache :)
[16:56] <gocrazynow> i have installed already
[16:56] <RogerB> *opt
[16:56] <job> i would like to write an automate program to based on a database.  what good program can use on ubuntu to do this
[16:56] <duffydack> sudo tasksel    to setup a apache/php/mysql
[16:56] <natnayr89> ﻿gocrazynow: and running php files will be under the command of sudo php5
[16:56] <gocrazynow> php apache mod
[16:56] <duffydack> if thats what you are wanting to do
[16:56] <AMDMutant> RogerB: lampp :)
[16:56] <Smokey_Tokez> hey need help, i need to boot an iso image without burning it to a cd
[16:56] <duffydack> if its just php then its php5 i think...
[16:56] <kovacs> From where I can download games yet youtube brings downloading one?
[16:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !iso
[16:57] <kovacs> From where I can download games yet youtube brings downloading one?
[16:57] <natnayr89> ﻿gocrazynow: try using the manual of ﻿LAMP
[16:57] <Smokey_Tokez> cant burn it, dont have burner
[16:57] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, if your username in you system is cubevanbaby, then do the following command --> sudo chown cubevanbaby.cubevanbaby .xsession
[16:57] <Smokey_Tokez> need to boot befor os loads in
[16:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Smokey_Tokez, If you are trying to boot an iso to install another os etc.. not really gonna work
[16:57] <Smokey_Tokez> i want to install it to dual boot with what i am using
[16:57] <kovacs> From where I can download games yet youtube brings downloading one?
[16:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !install
[16:58] <bazhang> kovacs, what games?
[16:58] <bullgard4> Are all X11 source code files found under one directory?
[16:58] <AshTray-> I have a problem installing my Deskjet 3320 HP printer... i used HPLIP and it gives me an error at the near end, AttributeError: 'tuple' object has no attribute 'keys'
[16:59] <kovacs> Bazhang: Actio, strategy
[16:59] <cubevanbaby> cool will do onetinsoldier thanks!
[16:59] <atlef> kovacs: please refrase your question
[16:59] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, cool. you're welcome. :-) good luck
[16:59] <bazhang> kovacs, do you mean flash games.
[17:00]  * tet3 seeing if network connection is back on
[17:00] <kovacs> bazhang pls help
[17:00] <Tommck> I am running Gusty (2.6.22-15-generic) and, somehow, I've made it so that I can't login to any GUI (both Gnome and KDE can't open display '0.0' during startup).  Gnome gives me the "your session lasted < 10 seconds" error and KDE just boots me back to the login screen.  Can anyone help me figure this out?
[17:01] <bazhang> kovacs, tell us exactly what you mean; which exact games are you talking about
[17:01] <SilentDis> !grub
[17:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Tommck, ctrl-alt  F2  to try and open a term
[17:01] <icqnumber> !info cheese
[17:01] <Hans-Martin> Tommck: can you log in using a linux virtual console? (try pressing ctrl-alt-F1)
[17:01] <Tommck> Jack_Sparrow: I can login in console mode and ssh
[17:01] <Tommck> Hans-Martin: yes
[17:01] <kovacs> bazhang: counter-strike, world of Warcraft
[17:01] <musictoto> natnayr89: mkdir /media/usbdrive ; mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdrive
[17:02] <bazhang> kovacs, you cannot download those.
[17:02] <Hans-Martin> Tommck: then you should be able to see .xsession-errors in your home directory. It can tell you more
[17:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Tommck, look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:02] <atlef> kovacs: you need to buy them
[17:02] <Tommck> Hans-Martin: that's where I get the "xrdb: can't connect to display '0.0'" error
[17:03] <kovacs> why?
[17:03] <Tommck> Jack_Sparrow: I get the graphical login prompt, so I thought that the X part was fine
[17:03] <bazhang> kovacs, once you have purchased them, you can run them in wine
[17:03] <AshTray-> I have a problem installing my Deskjet 3320 HP printer... i used HPLIP and it gives me an error at the near end, AttributeError: 'tuple' object has no attribute 'keys'
[17:03] <bazhang> kovacs, check the appdb for whether they will work or not
[17:03] <Hans-Martin> Tommck: that's likely too late - the X server died before rdb wanted to talk to it.
[17:03] <bazhang> !appdb > kovacs
[17:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Tommck, you could still have a video setting in there messing you up..  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[17:04] <Tommck> Hans-Martin: ok
[17:04] <Tommck> Jack_Sparrow: I'll try that (did it without the "-phigh" before)
[17:04] <atlef> AshTray-: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=881751
[17:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Tommck, set it to vesa mode next if it still hangs
[17:05] <EnMasse187> hi guys
[17:05] <kovacs> bauhang: and you from where you download games and their name?
[17:06] <atlef> hi
[17:06] <Jack_Sparrow> kovacs, You are in the wrong room to be asking about pirating games
[17:06] <Tommck> Jack_Sparrow: fyi: plain "startx" works and gives me the generic checkerboard-looking X desktop
[17:06] <atlef> kovacs: install steam and buy the games
[17:06] <bazhang> !ot > kovacs
[17:06] <EnMasse187> i've been using ubuntu for the last 6 months and i still dont know how to install a package via terminal, how do you guys recommend i should go about becoming as adept in a linux as i am in windows?
[17:06] <EnMasse187> i mean i don't even know how to figure out in which folder my program files are
[17:07] <siliconmeadow> I run my ubuntu machine headless and access it via X11 on my intranet - if I plug a usb memory stick in the ubuntu machine, is there a way I can access it from my X11 session (using either startkde or gnome-session)
[17:07] <Smokey_Tokez> is there a way to get puppy linux to install from a USB Flash Drive?
[17:07] <AshTray-> atlef: Not working :( http://pastebin.com/m23cd9f3b
[17:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Tommck, see if you have an old xorg in your X11 folder from prior to this problem.  It may be worth a try
[17:07] <natnayr89> ﻿musictoto: hey u there, sry i DCed
[17:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Smokey_Tokez, Wrong room.. ask in puppy
[17:07] <Tommck> Jack_Sparrow: I have a backup.. I've tried it.. no dice
[17:07] <Smokey_Tokez> well I'm running xubuntu, it automatically took me to this
[17:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Tommck, dpkkg-rec..  when set to vesa and 1024 mode.. does that get you back in?
[17:08] <atlef> AshTray-: sorry, was my first hit on Google
[17:08] <siliconmeadow> EnMasse187: there are loads of tutorials on terminal usage - are you familiar with man and apropos yet?
[17:08] <usser> siliconmeadow, you dont need gui for that
[17:08] <Tommck> Jack_Sparrow: it went straight to resolutions and didn't give me any other options when doing "-phigh"
[17:08] <EnMasse187> no
[17:08] <siliconmeadow> usser: I want the gui for that
[17:09] <EnMasse187> siliconmeadow: what else do i need to learn besides the terminal?
[17:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Tommck, that is what -phigh does, just set a res and keeps you out of the other settiings
[17:09] <Hans-Martin> Tommck: can you paste your .xsession-errors on http://paste.ubuntu.com?
[17:09] <usser> siliconmeadow, you want to open usb stick on ubuntu or on the machine u connecting from?
[17:09] <natnayr89> hey, anyone know where ﻿musictoto went? was talking to him halfway
[17:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Tommck, follow Hans-Martin suggestion and look for an actual error
[17:10] <Tommck> Hans-Martin: it is VERY boring... one line to say it started... the next says xrdb can't open the display... that's all that's in there
[17:10] <siliconmeadow> EnMasse187: if you want to learn the terminal - you need to use it regularly - doing tutorials and the like - do you have any experience with DOS for navigating around a file system?
[17:10] <Tommck> Hans-Martin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/93794/
[17:10] <EnMasse187> nps
[17:10] <EnMasse187> *no
[17:10] <EnMasse187> siliconmeadow: no
[17:11] <chturne> if i want to know the hex code of a particular key sequence, what program can i use for this? I want to know, say, what C-m is in hex.
[17:11] <Hans-Martin> Tommck: that's really not much info :-(
[17:11] <Tommck> Hans-Martin: I know... nice error messages
[17:11] <siliconmeadow> EnMasse187: have a go at some of these
[17:11] <usser> siliconmeadow, if the latter you can just enable x forwarding ssh -X -C yourubuntubox
[17:12] <usser> siliconmeadow, and then gnome-session on machine u connecting from
[17:12] <Mohammad[B]> Hi all
[17:12] <Hans-Martin> Tommck: do you happen to have a .xsession file or something else that might be executed when your graphical session starts?
[17:12] <siliconmeadow> usser: I've got X working - it's getting access to the usb stick that i'm tyring to get to
[17:12] <Mohammad[B]> how to i can play .amr in totem ?
[17:12] <AshTray-> So.. thoes anybody know how do i fix my printer? http://pastebin.com/m23cd9f3b
[17:12] <siliconmeadow> usser: i prefer startkde
[17:12] <Mohammad[B]> which plugin is for playing .amr in totem ?
[17:12] <Tommck> Hans-Martin: I never did anything custom for that
[17:13] <hikenboot> hello all thought i would share this...on ubuntu workstation or server with ubuntu-desktop installed the compiz stuff wouldnt work for a 6200 servies nvidia gpu went and compiled and installed the nvidia drivers from nvidia and I was able to enable compiz fusion which failed with the ubuntu suggested drivers
[17:13] <usser> siliconmeadow, oh it wasnt a question, my bad :)
[17:13] <lab-1> Hi all
[17:13] <onetinsoldier> EnMasse187: do you need a tutorial site about the terminal? try here... http://linuxcommand.org/
[17:13] <EnMasse187> siliconmeadow: what should i try?
[17:13] <bullgard4> Are all X11 source code files found under one directory?
[17:13] <EnMasse187> onetinsoldier: thanks alot, what else do i need to learn?
[17:14] <Mohammad[B]> !amr
[17:14] <Mohammad[B]> :(
[17:14] <siliconmeadow> EnMasse187: first step is to learn how to navigate your file system - learn about 5-10 commands for moving around, creating directories, deleting and permissions
[17:14] <chturne> bullgard4: what do you mean? if you download the source distro, then yes, but as installed on Ubuntu, no.
[17:14] <SilentDis> I have been running my machine for quite some time, and haven't rebooted it in a while.  last night, i had shut down my machine for the first time.  when i turn it on, it flashes that it's loading grub for a very very brief second, then reboots immediately.  halp.
[17:15] <bullgard4> chturne: What is "the source distro"?
[17:15] <Shpook> Hello everyone, I need some help. My daughters EeePC will connect to our wireless network, but has no internet access. There was access before, but it was in roaming mode and switched to a stronger network, and I pointed it back to our network. Now It doesn't connect to the internet. I can't ping out, and the DNS nameserver is pointed to my router correctly.
[17:15] <siliconmeadow> EnMasse187: the tutorial that onetinsoldier sent any maybe a google search like this: http://tinyurl.com/927hn6
[17:15] <chturne> bullgard4: if you were to go to X.org website for instance, and download the source manually. Or do an apt-get source X
[17:15] <bluefox83> i need the command to list all partitions on a system, in terminal
[17:15] <EnMasse187> thanks alot
[17:16] <siliconmeadow> usser: it's ok
[17:16] <chturne> bluefox83: fdisk -l
[17:16] <siliconmeadow> d
[17:16] <Tommck> Hans-Martin: can I just move my xorg.conf and start fresh?
[17:16] <EnMasse187> when i have an understanding of linux how do i know?
[17:16] <siliconmeadow> bluefox83: or df -H?
[17:16] <n8tuser> Shpook -> check if it has a good route table   route -n
[17:16] <wolfwalker> Flash plugin for firefox keeps crashing.  Any fix yet?  Running Ubuntu 8.04, official flash.
[17:16] <siliconmeadow> EnMasse187: it's an alway evolving knowledge - you you need to know file systems first
[17:16] <bjstick> mount should work too
[17:16] <EnMasse187> i mean in windows i can go around install programs, edit regedit, fix my computer everytime windows messes up, etc basic stuff that if you use a computer yous hould know how to do
[17:16] <EnMasse187> but how can i know about linux?
[17:17] <Shpook> n8tuser: There's nothing listed but the headings :/
[17:17] <wolfwalker> EnMasse187 97% of computer tech is efficient and effective use of Google.
[17:17] <chturne> wolfwalker: heh :)
[17:17] <bjstick> wolfwalker speaks the truth
[17:17] <EnMasse187> wolfwalker: >_<
[17:17] <EnMasse187> XD
[17:18] <n8tuser> Shpook -> that is your clue, no route, so it can not get to wherever
[17:18] <bjstick> google knows all
[17:18] <magikid> I'm having a problem with apt-get crashing.  Can anyone help me out with it?
[17:18] <EnMasse187> if only google was a student in my college
[17:18] <infosoak> If I have a .zip file -- is there an explicit way to unzip the file such that the contents are unzipped with a particular owner and group?
[17:18] <onetinsoldier> EnMasse187: i would say that after you go through that tutorial, learn how to compile something from source code. perhaps something like ubuntu-tweak(ubuntu-tweak_0.4.4.orig.tar.gz)
[17:18] <siliconmeadow> EnMasse187: can you apply the same energy you did when you learned windows? You've to roll your sleeves up a try things
[17:18] <EnMasse187> i'd be the smartest kid in class
[17:18] <EnMasse187> siliconmeadow: i got windows when i was 2
[17:18] <EnMasse187> 2 years old
[17:18] <chturne> Ubuntu comes with lots of system documentation too. go to /usr/share/doc and see.
[17:18] <EnMasse187> windows 95
[17:18] <Shpook> n8tuser: Now my next step is to figure out how to resolve it. :D
[17:18] <EnMasse187> okay ill look at it
[17:19] <Tommck> Hans-Martin: no more ideas?
[17:19] <n8tuser> Shpook -> copy one from your working clients
[17:19] <SilentDis> I have been running my machine for quite some time, and haven't rebooted it in a while.  last night, i had shut down my machine for the first time.  when i turn it on, it flashes that it's loading grub for a very very brief second, then reboots immediately.  halp.
[17:19] <bjstick> the best way to learn about linux is to intentionally break stuff and then try to fix it
[17:19] <onetinsoldier> EnMasse187: http://ubuntu-tweak.com/   ...after learning about the terminal.. compile that
[17:19] <bjstick> in a vm of course
[17:20] <Hans-Martin> Tommck: not at the moment - I'd probably try to set up the system to you get more debugging output, but I have no ready-made plan for that.
[17:20] <CountryTrouserTr> Does anyone know how to pull up the nvidia xorg.conf file? I tried adding a modline for overscan which put my computer into low graphics mode. When I go to nvidia settings it says as root type nvidia-xconfig to fix problem, it doesnt.
[17:20] <bullgard4> chturne: "$ apt-get source X; E: Unable to find a source package for X."
[17:20] <Tommck> Hans-Martin: yeah, I guess I'll do some googling to get more debug output
[17:20] <Tommck> Hans-Martin: thanks for the help
[17:20] <chturne> bullgard4: I lied. Try apt-get source xorg
[17:20] <EnMasse187> compile means install?
[17:20] <gocrazynow> how to make postgresql not start at startup?
[17:20] <CountryTrouserTr> btw when I pull up my xorg.conf file now it's not the one I want its the  one I'm running now which is low graphics
[17:20] <bjstick> compile means compile
[17:20] <bjstick> turn source code into binary
[17:20] <Hans-Martin> Tommck: you're welcome and good luck finding a fix!
[17:20] <EnMasse187> bjstick: but linux to me seems such a stable system compared to windows
[17:21] <biomass> Can anyone tell why the command 'xinput set-int-prop "Name_Of_Mouse" "Device Enabled" 32 0' would disable the mouse pointer on one machine and not another but both machines have the same effect of "turning on" the output from /dev/input/event* ids when engaging the mouse ?
[17:21] <bluefox83> ok, i have a friend who has mounted a partition to a live cd session, how does he use the installed system to do a grub-update ?
[17:21] <EnMasse187> bjstick: in windows erase system32 and all hell breaks loose
[17:21] <onetinsoldier> EnMasse187: actually, no. but you won't do much with a compiled program unless you do install it
[17:21] <EnMasse187> hmm okay
[17:21] <CountryTrouserTr> anyone?
[17:21] <bjstick> rm -rf / will cause some hell in linux too
[17:21] <EnMasse187> so let me guess its a script/source code?
[17:21] <EnMasse187> and you compile it
[17:21] <Shpook> n8tuser: I don't have any working clients, but I'll see what I can find with google
[17:21] <EnMasse187> turns it into a package?
[17:21] <Shpook> n8tuser: Thanks :D
[17:21] <atlef> Tommck: when you get the grub meny, edit the bootoptions and remove quiet splash as this will give you a lot more feedback
[17:21] <EnMasse187> to work with sudo commands?
[17:21] <bjstick> not a package
[17:21] <EnMasse187> is that what it is?
[17:21] <FloodBot1> EnMasse187: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:22] <bjstick> packages are .deb files
[17:22] <onetinsoldier> EnMasse187: after compiling it, i recommand you use a package and command named 'checkinstall' to actually install it
[17:22] <Tommck> atlef: thanks
[17:22] <n8tuser> Shpook -> those should be automatic, feed by the dhcp server
[17:22] <bjstick> or .rpm files
[17:22] <bjstick> etc
[17:22] <CountryTrouserTr> actually I found the xorg.conf.backup file, how do I load this back in?
[17:22] <atlef> Tommck: hope it gives you some more info, and good luck
[17:22] <lvlefisto1> i have two computers at home, one connected wireless and the other is wired. When both were wired i easily can ssh the other one using its name. Now i can't. Does anyone can tell me how can i ssh the wireless PC from the wired one?
[17:23] <EnMasse187> are there any good books on learning linux?
[17:23] <Jeaton> ok, i lost power earlier and i was in the process of using tovid
[17:23] <Jeaton> is there anyway of resuming where i left off?
[17:23] <bullgard4> chturne: "/$ sudo apt-get source xorg; dpkg-source: unpacking xorg_7.3+10ubuntu10.2.tar.gz." What directory stores now the X source code?
[17:23] <EnMasse187> guys one thing in terminal
[17:23] <Shpook> n8tuser: would that make it a router issue?
[17:23] <bjstick> can you ping the other computer by IP?
[17:23] <EnMasse187> do i have to write out everysingle text?
[17:23] <n8tuser> Ivlefisto1  have a name entries in your /etc/hosts  file
[17:24] <chturne> bullgard4: the current directory?
[17:24] <EnMasse187> i mean it takes forever for me to even write out sudo apt blah blah blah
[17:24] <n8tuser> Shpook -> yeah
[17:24] <EnMasse187> is there like an auto complete?
[17:24] <EnMasse187> where you write a commonly used command and linux recognizes it?
[17:24] <bjstick> use tab completion
[17:24] <EnMasse187> ahh yea
[17:24] <magikid> Does anyone know how to get apt-get to list package dependencies?  I'm trying to uninstall some packages and it's removing some things it shouldn't
[17:24] <EnMasse187> i forgout about that
[17:24] <onetinsoldier> EnMasse187: that might depend onexactly what you mean. when you do the tutorial, it should teach you about bash command line completion
[17:25] <EnMasse187> k thanks
[17:25] <Shpook> n8tuser: i apologize, i do have a working windows machine, it's just the ubuntu machine that doesn't work
[17:25] <onetinsoldier> :-)
[17:25] <EnMasse187> im doing the tutorial right now
[17:25] <onetinsoldier> cool
[17:25] <bluefox83> if someone is running a ubuntu livecd and need to make a change to grub on their regular installation, how would they go about doing that?
[17:25] <EnMasse187> oh guys what are MUST have apps for linux?
[17:25] <EnMasse187> i mean people said amarok/vlc
[17:25] <EnMasse187> what else?
[17:25] <n8tuser> Shpook -> in windows you use   route print
[17:25] <magikid> enmasse187: Forget amarok, go with Songbird
[17:25] <EnMasse187> songbird?
[17:25] <bjstick> yeah Songbird has really matured
[17:26] <magikid> it's nice
[17:26] <n8tuser> man its taking so long..   0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.46)]
[17:26] <EnMasse187> is it better than amarok?
[17:26] <EnMasse187> i havent even tried amarok yet
[17:26] <magikid> it's a music player based on the mozilla backend
[17:26] <EnMasse187> im isntalling both right now
[17:26] <onetinsoldier> EnMasse187: there's a ton of them... i recommend getting this util here for one --> http://www.kbrandt.com/2008/06/pygnomefind-gui-frontend-to-gnu-find.html
[17:26] <magikid> amarok is a close second though
[17:26] <bjstick> if you are used to iTunes it will be more familiar
[17:26] <EnMasse187> im used to winamp
[17:26] <EnMasse187> :(
[17:26] <bjstick> you might want XMMS2 then
[17:26] <Zyfo> I'm trying to run a .bin file to install a windows game (Hearts of Iron 2). After having done chmod +x to the file and tried to running it both with "sh ./<filename>" and just "./<filename>" I get a syntax error and a "cannot execute bin file". What might be the problem?
[17:26] <Ground0_> EnMasse187 http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=top+10+must+have+linux+applications
[17:27] <onetinsoldier> Zyfo: what does --> file <filename> ...show?
[17:27] <Shpook> n8tuser: ok good, and did you mean just copy the contents, or would it have to be from another ubuntu machine?
[17:27] <Zyfo> onetinsoldier:  rld-hoi2d.bin: data
[17:27] <n8tuser> Shpook -> you can not literally copy the contents, its the context you need to copy
[17:27] <RogerB> on that bin file, chmod +x filename.bin
[17:27] <onetinsoldier> Zyfo: data?
[17:28] <Jeaton> anyone here familiar with tovid?
[17:28] <n8tuser> Shpook -> those should be automatically performed by the dhclient
[17:28] <Zyfo> onetinsoldier: yes, that's what it says when I do "file rld-hoi2d.bin". Is it bad?
[17:28] <onetinsoldier> Zyfo: it should show like this... /usr/bin/feh: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[17:29] <n8tuser> Zyfo -> data means it is not executable
[17:29] <shauno> It appears to be part of a bin/cue set disk image, not a bash-packed installer
[17:29] <Zyfo> onetinsoldier:  if I do it with a simple .bin file? So what does it saying "data" mean?
[17:29] <onetinsoldier> Zyfo: that was from  'file /usr/bin/feh', ans an example
[17:29] <RogerB> mount it
[17:29] <Zyfo> there's a .cue file to it aswell
[17:29] <shauno> (based on plugging the file name into google)
[17:29] <nibbler> snsbnibbler
[17:29] <Zyfo> RogerB: how do I mount it? :p
[17:29] <wolfwalker> Request information on flash plugin for firefox.  Running Ubuntu 8.04, tried updating, etc, googled extensively, but I can't keep my browser from crashing when I play a flash video.
[17:29] <Shpook> n8tuser: I didn't mean literally copy and paste :P well, like i said, it worked fine before i turned off roaming mode
[17:29] <RogerB> gisomount app
[17:30] <wolfwalker> Running official flash, not gnash
[17:30] <duffydack> gmountiso
[17:30] <RogerB> or gmount-iso apt will do it to
[17:30] <n8tuser> Shpook -> you dont want roaming mode, lest you reallly are roaming
[17:30] <bjstick> just type mkdir something
[17:30] <Ground0_> wolfwalker did u try nspluginwrapper
[17:31] <Shpook> n8tuser: yeah, that's why i turned it off and pointed to my connection. that was the moment i lost an internet connection.
[17:31] <n8tuser> Shpook -> configure the settings accordingly once you uncheck roaming
[17:31] <Ground0_> i think theres a bug in the sound system has a bug that makes flash crash ur firefox
[17:31] <onetinsoldier> Zyfo: search google on .cue file... i can't help with that really. needs something from rar or a cdrom burning util?
[17:31] <wolfwalker> !nspluginwrapper
[17:31] <Zyfo> RogerB: thanks, I'll try
[17:32] <n8tuser> Shpook -> should only be like the essid and use dhcp   on that nm window
[17:32] <Zyfo> onetinsoldier: maybe, I'll tinker for a bit with gmountiso
[17:32] <RogerB> you don't need a cue really to mount a .bin data file
[17:32] <onetinsoldier> Zyfo: ok, good luck
[17:32] <Ground0_> wolfwalker u on latest ubuntu?
[17:32] <duffydack> bin2iso too
[17:32] <RogerB> cue file just tells the loader to load .bin, zzzzzzzz
[17:32] <sky_> how to convert audio from flv file to mp3 via ffmpeg ??
[17:32] <wolfwalker> Ground0_ I mentioned 8.04 I thought.  If I forgot that, apologies.
[17:33] <sky_> omg
[17:33] <wolfwalker> Running ubuntu 8.04, official flash plugin, from the ubuntu-restricted-extras.
[17:33] <bjstick> wolfwalker, does about:plugins show the flash plugin
[17:33] <chturne> sky_ : http://youmakemedia.com/2006/10/13/converting-flv-to-mpeg-in-linux/
[17:33] <EnMasse187> guys i uninstalled a program via add/remove
[17:33] <AMDMutant> wolfwalker: flash 9?
[17:33] <EnMasse187> and it did not get cleared from the applications bar
[17:33] <EnMasse187> its in accessories
[17:33] <Ground0_> wolfwalker Just try to use swfdec plugin instead of adobe one
[17:33] <shauno> Zyfo: bchunk is a command-line app to convert bin/cue pairs to a standard iso image.  been years since I touched it, so can't help with it much, but it might not be a bad place to start
[17:34] <gocrazynow> Somebody, please tell me how to make postgresql not to start at startup???
[17:34] <wolfwalker>     File name: libflashplayer.so
[17:34] <wolfwalker>     Shockwave Flash 10.0 r15
[17:34] <atlef> EnMasse187: sudo apt-get autoclean / sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:34] <Ground0_> wolfwalker maybe trying Flash 10 beta might also fix the problem
[17:35] <bjstick> gocrazynow: update-rc.d -f postgresql
[17:35] <Zyfo> shauno: ah thanks, the other program complained about the file not being iso, will try it
[17:35] <bjstick> or w/e the service is called
[17:35] <wal3> hello. when I'm idle, ubuntu starts playing some random mp3s - whats that?
[17:35] <imaginativeone> how do I mount my external drive to Ubuntu?
[17:35] <Pilot_51> hi,  does anyone know how to share an audio input between multiple applications simultaneously in intrepid?
[17:35] <usser> sky_, ffmpeg -i filename.flv -acodec mp3 -ac 2 -ab 128000 filename.mp3
[17:35] <Ground0_> wab3 wants you to sing along it's bored
[17:35] <sky_> usser: thank you ^_^
[17:35] <usser> sky_, np
[17:36] <Smokey_Tokez> hey i need to add my usb to Grub  because my computer does not boot from usb on its own, can this be done? if so is there a website guide?
[17:36] <gocrazynow> bjstick: thx
[17:36] <wal3> hello. when I'm idle, ubuntu starts playing some random mp3s - whats that?
[17:36] <wolfwalker> wal3 do you leave the cursor positioned over a music file?
[17:37] <Ground0_> Smokey_Tokez yes there one here: http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=add+usb+to+grub
[17:37] <duffydack> side note, k3b burns cue/bin
[17:37] <Smokey_Tokez> thank you ground0
[17:37] <wal3> wolfwalker: aaaaaaaaah. thanks
[17:37] <wolfwalker> Autoplay got me too, couldn't figure out what was going on.
[17:37] <EnMasse187> guys how do i uninstall programs installed in wine; then how do i erase them from applications menu?
[17:38] <Smokey_Tokez> ha ha very funny, i googled it for myself, but nothing seems to work to well
[17:38] <duffydack> apps/wine/uninstall wine software
[17:38] <Ground0_> EnMasse187 did try using an eraser?
[17:38] <EnMasse187> nahh
[17:38] <EnMasse187> what is that?
[17:38] <EnMasse187> in linux terms?
[17:39] <RogerB> i have never gotten anything to really uninstall from wine, always manual, zzzzzz
[17:39] <bjstick> you should be able to just run the uninstall.exe in the program directory
[17:39] <usser> EnMasse187, RogerB yea i concur wine uninstaller sucks, always had to manually delete the folder and clean stuff from wine registry
[17:39] <Pilot_51> based on the lack of answers here and in my google searches am i correct in assuming there is no way to simultaneously share audio input?
[17:39] <polywaffle_> hello I have combined /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow using the intructions for john, however I still get "No password hashes loaded"  This is on my intrepid box.
[17:39] <duffydack> works for me, might need to rm -rf the folder too tho but thats nothing
[17:39] <tavish> is there a way to repackage an installed package to a deb??
[17:40] <usser> EnMasse187, but your mileage may vary try entering uninstaller on the terminal
[17:40] <Ground0_> EnMasse187 Just open a console and type "uninstaller"
[17:40] <seishi> I use a 200gb hd, ubuntu 8.10 in a 8gb partition... and the rest for data. i wonder if can increase my system performace by using a pen drive to hold the S.O. instalation. Any tips ? I used 2 hard disk, one for system and other for data, but I lost one and perceived the performace loss in access to files when i use 1 hd only
[17:40] <duffydack> wine uninstaller just lists the actual programs uninstall files
[17:40] <seishi> *O.S.
[17:41] <RogerB> i'm trying to set up file associations from wine installed apps, but wine chat is pretty next to dead on answering
[17:41] <seishi> I use a 200gb hd, ubuntu 8.10 in a 8gb partition... and the rest for data. i wonder if can increase my system performace by using a pen drive to hold the O.S. instalation. Any tips ? I used 2 hard disk, one for system and other for data, but I lost one and noticed the performace loss in access to files when i use 1 hd only
[17:41] <Zyfo> RogerB, onetinsoldier, shauno: seems to be working now. Thanks for your help all!
[17:41] <seishi> sorry for the bad english ;P
[17:41] <Ground0_> EnMasse187 take a look in ~/.wine/drive_c for program’s files and then in ~/.config/menus/applications-merged for residual menu entries.
[17:41] <RogerB> zyfo did one of them apps get it
[17:41] <onetinsoldier> RogerB: he left
[17:41] <EnMasse187> hmm
[17:42] <EnMasse187> okay
[17:42] <EnMasse187> ill try
[17:42] <AMDMutant> tavish: dpkg-repack
[17:42] <EnMasse187> and hopefully it will work
[17:42] <Ground0_> let us knwo if you come out alive
[17:42] <RogerB> what app handles file associations
[17:42] <sky_> items from trash are moved to /dev/null ? :D
[17:42] <tavish> k thx, i will check it
[17:42] <usser> RogerB, if u use gnome its usually in gconf-editor
[17:43] <EnMasse187> if i just uninstall wine
[17:43] <EnMasse187> will everything go away?
[17:43] <Smokey_Tokez> i dont want grub to boot from usb, i want usb to boot from grub that is installed on my harddrive
[17:43] <nvc> hi, i installed virtualbox closed source edition 2.0 but it does not have an option for seamless mode
[17:43] <RogerB> usser, where's that listed at
[17:43] <nvc> well, it's there, but just unable to be clicked
[17:43] <usser> RogerB, where are associations? i dont know but i know its there
[17:43] <nvc> is there a way i can enable it?
[17:43] <Pilot_51> are there any packages i should know about that might solve my audio problem?
[17:44] <n8tuser> RogerB -> and usser   /etc/mime.types
[17:44] <Smokey_Tokez> i dont want grub to boot from usb, i want usb to boot from grub that is installed on my harddrive
[17:44] <usser> n8tuser, oh thanks didnt know about that
[17:45] <kromium> how to boot ubuntu in text mode using grub
[17:45] <n8tuser> usser -> you're welcome
[17:46] <n8tuser> kromium -> it is always been in text mode, what do you mean? you dont want the X server running at the end?
[17:46] <Ground0_> kromium http://www.linuxmint.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=18550#18550
[17:46] <Typhox> Can you tell me how do I change the screen-resolution via console on a Ubuntu 8.10 64bit live-cd ?
[17:46] <duffydack> nvc:  host key + L
[17:46] <duffydack> read the manual
[17:46] <^anak^^jalanan^^> !chk
[17:46] <Pilot_51> heck, at the very least could someone suggest a channel where someone might acknowledge my existence and answer my question?
[17:46] <blbrown> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook4-1/Intrepid  I want to put ubuntu on my macbook, I am assuming I don't need a custom version of intrepid?  I can just get the image and then start installed, for x86?
[17:47] <n8tuser> !patience | Pilot_51
[17:47] <Ground0_> Pilot_51 yes google.com
[17:48] <Pilot_51> i've been searching google for about 3 days now and asking nicely in here at the same time and nobody/nothing gave me any help
[17:48] <Vincent_> 8.10 alternate amd64.  Anyone got raid > /boot & raid > encrypted > lvm > / working?  Having problems with setting up a boot loader.
[17:48] <cubevanbaby> hm.. I think I may have made a major mistake heh lol
[17:48] <n8tuser> Pilot_51 -> the expertise may not be around when you have asked, so be patient, ask every 15 minutes or so
[17:48] <duffydack> safe to say no one knows then
[17:48] <Ground0_> Pilot_51 you will even find information relating to the exisistance of your ancestors, evolution, exsistence of other life and most importantly, the search for life on other planets in our galaxy.
[17:48] <biomass> Can anyone tell why the command 'xinput set-int-prop "Name_Of_Mouse" "Device Enabled" 32 0' would disable the mouse pointer on one machine and not another but both machines have the same effect of "turning on" the output from /dev/input/event* ids when engaging the mouse ?
[17:49] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier so... I may have done something majorly wrong with editing .xsession now it just keeps bringing me back to the login screen over and over agian :-/
[17:49] <usser> biomass, file a bug report
[17:49] <cubevanbaby> I'm on another machine now lol
[17:49] <Pilot_51> well my question seems like a relatively simple one, can nobody available seriously answer it?
[17:50] <duffydack> ask it
[17:50] <n8tuser> Pilot_51 -> not at the moment aparently, just hang around for a few more
[17:50]  * Soft_Kitty is soft!
[17:50] <Ground0_> maybe you should just ask than complain and wonder if someone can answer
[17:50] <Pilot_51> ok here goes again... i want to use an audio input in multiple applications at once, how?
[17:50] <cubevanbaby> <-- fails I think I might have accidentally deleted the icewm line I have a feeling that's what's causing it to crash :-/
[17:51] <duffydack> thats a pulseaudio thing and out of my league
[17:51] <Ground0_> Pilot_51 multiple sounds at once?
[17:52] <Pilot_51> Ground0_: sometimes the only way i can get someone to help me (in this channel) is if i complain or be vague in my question.\
[17:52] <AshTray-> I managed to make my deskjet 3320 work with hplip and cups but the printed pages is empty. Can you please help me? Not i'm not using GUI
[17:52] <bullgard4> "$ sudo apt-get source xorg" produced the directory /xor-7.3+10ubuntu10.2 having root access rights. Why does source code need root access rights?
[17:52] <Pilot_51> Ground0_: a single audio input device to multiple applications at once
[17:52] <EnMasse187> bakc again
[17:52] <D32> Ever since I upgraded to 8.10, my bandwidth has been throttled & certain sites always time out (h33t.com) it isn't a DNS issue, it isn't in my hosts file
[17:53] <EnMasse187> need some help
[17:53] <EnMasse187> when i minimize amarok where does it go?
[17:53] <mwilson_> subspace.. ;)
[17:53] <Arelis> Hello. I'm wondering how ubuntu is now. Back when i tried it, at version Gutsy Gibbon, it was still causing too much trouble and was eating away my time because i had to fix sudden problems when they appeared. I switched to Mac OS X, and got a new piece of hardware too (Mac Mini). I don't want to try it again until i'm certain it's gotten rid of all those problems and works very well on the mac mini.
[17:53] <Ground0_> it merges with dark energy
[17:53] <AMDMutant> :D
[17:53] <EnMasse187> 0_>
[17:53] <EnMasse187> seriously?
[17:53] <EnMasse187> :(
[17:53] <duffydack> the tray?
[17:53] <mwilson_> it gets compressed in subspace...
[17:53] <mwilson_> ...   like a zip file.  :)
[17:54] <mwilson_> look for a little wolf on the taskbar.
[17:54] <EnMasse187> where is the tray?
[17:54] <mwilson_> with a circle..
[17:54] <EnMasse187> i dont see a wolf?
[17:54] <Pilot_51> Ground0_: if i open, say, mumble, and then i open audacity, audacity doesn't recognize any available input device
[17:54] <biomass> Arelis: maybe trying the livecd would be the easiest option for you
[17:54] <EnMasse187> where is my Tray?
[17:54] <allsystemsarego> Arelis, your best bet is to use a stable, long-term supported release - Hardy Heron
[17:54] <mwilson_> try ctrl-alt leftarrow/rightarrow to see if it's on another screen.  :)
[17:54] <duffydack> thats down to the apps to use pulse
[17:54] <duffydack> 1 might use alsa while 1 might use pulse..whatever
[17:54] <mwilson_> enmasse:  you using gnome or kde?
[17:55] <EnMasse187> gnome
[17:55] <VillageIdiotEh> Can someone please help me, I have been trying to recover my Files off an Old External HDD, And i have it inside my ubuntu tower, But when i right click i get the stupid you do not have permissions to edit this file?
[17:55] <Pilot_51> i tried using different systems (alsa, oss, pulseaudio) and it still happens
[17:55] <mwilson_> oh, quickly, my question is "why the heck is the HUE setting for video files changing...   makes everything blue.  I move my slider in nvidis settins just a hare, and it's back.
[17:56] <duffydack> check to see if they support pulse and use it...thats all i can say
[17:56] <mwilson_> hmmm.   using KDE myself.
[17:56] <duffydack> pulse is the only one that really supports mutiple sounds...i know of anyway
[17:56] <Ground0_> im sure theres a way but im not sure trying to find out
[17:56] <EnMasse187> guys where is the tray in gnome!
[17:56] <EnMasse187> T_T
[17:56] <duffydack> top right
[17:56] <EnMasse187> my music playlist is over
[17:56] <EnMasse187> :(
[17:56] <D32> Ever since I upgraded to 8.10, my bandwidth has been throttled & certain sites always time out (h33t.com) it isn't a DNS issue, it isn't in my hosts file >.>
[17:57] <bazhang> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup you may wish to read this Pilot_51
[17:57] <EnMasse187> i only see a panel
[17:57] <RB2> Short of a fresh install, is there a way to get the nVidia binary drivers to work after an upgrade to 8.10?
[17:57] <cubevanbaby> hey room, if I screw up my .xsession file if I drop it into rescue mode (someone help... it's F9 right?) will the following fix it sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[17:57] <mwilson_> it's the other side of your taskbar..  opposite your menu button.
[17:57] <EnMasse187> im on ubuntu 8.04
[17:57] <Pilot_51> mumble supports pulse but that's the only app i use that supports it
[17:57] <imaginativeone> would someone help me to connect my external drive?
[17:57] <cubevanbaby> <-- epic fail i knew I was breaking it argh lol
[17:57] <skorasaurus> imaginativeone, lemme guess it's a seagate freeagent ?
[17:57] <Pilot_51> might there be some kind of a workaround to make pulse appear for the other apps?
[17:57] <nickrud> cubevanbaby, no, that will only affect xorg.conf
[17:58] <Arelis> What edition of Ubuntu should i download?
[17:58] <imaginativeone> skorasaurus: WD MyBook
[17:58] <Arelis> Hardy or Intrepid?
[17:58] <skorasaurus> ahh, k.
[17:58] <skorasaurus> Arelis, intrepid.
[17:58] <Schuenemann> Arelis, the latest
[17:58] <Arelis> Isn't it instable?
[17:58] <allsystemsarego> Arelis, Hardy is stable.
[17:58] <skorasaurus> imaginativeone, is it formatted for windows ?
[17:59] <Schuenemann> they are both stable
[17:59] <cubevanbaby> nickrud - any way to reconfigure the .xession file? pretty sure all I have to do is readd /usr/bin/icewm back into it
[17:59] <Arelis> Which is stabler?
[17:59] <lukasz> Hi people
[17:59] <lukasz> I need help
[17:59] <Tobberoth> 8.10 is stably, has some "just out" issues though
[17:59] <imaginativeone> skorasaurus: not yet - I just took it out of the box and plugged in the usb cable...
[17:59] <skorasaurus> ahh, k.
[17:59]  * skorasaurus is going through the same process right now.
[17:59] <Arelis> Tobberoth: Like?
[17:59] <lukasz> How do I install Nvidia?
[17:59]  * skorasaurus just bought a seagate freeagent yesteray
[17:59] <Pilot_51> LTS (long term support) means it's proven stable enough for a server if i'm not mistaken
[17:59] <Tobberoth> Arelis: Small stuff, some packages not fixed. For example, ZSNES won't run.
[17:59] <skorasaurus> hoorah!
[18:00] <lukasz> I have Asus G1S
[18:00] <skorasaurus> imaginativeone, sudo lshw -C disk
[18:00] <imaginativeone> will I have any luck?
[18:00] <Arelis> That's in the repositories, not in the distrubution. Easily fixed.
[18:00] <nickrud> cubevanbaby, you can simply edit in rescue mode, then chown it back to yourself. or, sudoedit -u <username> .xsession to edit as that user
[18:00] <skorasaurus> imaginativeone, you should.
[18:00] <duffydack> sound isnt the greatest thing in ubuntu, im hoping jaunty will be better
[18:00] <Tobberoth> Arelis: Exactly
[18:00] <lukasz> Please help
[18:00] <D32> Ever since I upgraded to 8.10, my bandwidth has been throttled & certain sites always time out (h33t.com) it isn't a DNS issue, it isn't in my hosts file !
[18:00] <skorasaurus> imaginativeone, is it being detected, the drive ?
[18:00] <EnMasse187> guys still cant find ubuntu tray
[18:00] <EnMasse187> >_>
[18:00] <VillageIdiotEh> Can someone please help me, I have been trying to recover my Files off an Old External HDD, And i have it inside my ubuntu tower, But when i right click i get the stupid you do not have permissions to edit this file? Someone send me links that might help?
[18:01] <duffydack> EnMasse187: has it just minimised to an icon on your taskbar?
[18:01] <EnMasse187> yea
[18:01] <lukasz> I have Nvidia 8600M GT
[18:01] <EnMasse187> but i dont see anything on it
[18:01] <D32> VillageIdiotEh: sudo chmod -R 777 /media/DEVICE/
[18:01] <EnMasse187> i only see a panel
[18:01] <EnMasse187> no tray
[18:01] <duffydack> top right, near time/date
[18:01] <lukasz> 256MB
[18:01] <EnMasse187> yea
[18:01] <EnMasse187> nothing there except
[18:01] <EnMasse187> for a panel
[18:01] <AMDMutant> EnMasse187: type amarok in terminal
[18:01] <EnMasse187> with volume thing
[18:01] <skorasaurus> imaginativeone, i'm using this page right now, so far, it's going smooth. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[18:01] <xorlim> what does this mean when I run chkrootkit? --> Checking `sniffer'... eth0: PF_PACKET(/sbin/dhclient3)
[18:01] <EnMasse187> i know that
[18:01] <FloodBot1> EnMasse187: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:01] <EnMasse187> but why doesnt tray work?
[18:02] <imaginativeone> skorasaurus: it didn't find it...
[18:02] <imaginativeone> thanks for the link
[18:02] <cubevanbaby> thanks nickrud I'll give that a shot
[18:02] <n8tuser> VillageIdiotEh -> use sudo or have root priviledges
[18:02] <skorasaurus> imaginativeone, when you ran that command i sent you, your new disk didn't appear ?
[18:02] <EnMasse187> okay guys
[18:02] <pist0l-fish> hello all, I just put ubuntu 8.10 on my computer and I'm having trouble compiling some code. For some reason, things that should be in the c++ STL are bringing up errors (such as: "error: ‘strcmp’ was not declared in this scope"). Can anyone help?
[18:02] <EnMasse187> something wierd
[18:02] <EnMasse187> has happened
[18:02] <imaginativeone> skorasaurus: it didn't appear
[18:03] <nvc> hi, i installed virtualbox closed source edition 2.0 but it does not have an option for seamless mode
[18:03] <nvc> well, it's there, but just unable to be clicked
[18:03] <EnMasse187> guys
[18:03] <nvc> is there a way i can enable it?
[18:03] <EnMasse187> help please
[18:03] <EnMasse187> my linux BROKE!
[18:03] <EnMasse187> OMG It broke
[18:03] <FloodBot1> EnMasse187: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:03] <D32> Ever since I upgraded to 8.10, my bandwidth has been throttled & certain sites always time out (h33t.com) it isn't a DNS issue, it isn't in my hosts file !!!
[18:03] <duffydack> nvc: try the newer virtualbox
[18:03] <imaginativeone> skorasaurus: could it be that USB 2.0 is too slow?
[18:03] <duffydack> 2.1
[18:03] <AMDMutant> EnMasse187: settings > general > show tray icon
[18:03] <EnMasse187> noo
[18:03] <EnMasse187> it broke
[18:03] <skorasaurus> imaginativeone, i dont think so
[18:03] <EnMasse187> i had a theme
[18:03] <RB2> I can't be the only person with nVidia upgrade issues.. :-/
[18:03] <EnMasse187> for the tastk bars
[18:03]  * skorasaurus is using usb2.0
[18:04] <Vincent_> 8.10 alternate amd64.  Anyone got raid > /boot & raid > encrypted > lvm > / working?  Having problems with setting up a boot loader.
[18:04] <skorasaurus> !nvidia
[18:04] <EnMasse187> and i typed a command into
[18:04] <EnMasse187> terminal
[18:04] <FloodBot1> EnMasse187: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:04] <EnMasse187> and now when i put my mouse over it
[18:04] <EnMasse187> it shows a grey
[18:04] <imaginativeone> should I format it first?
[18:04] <duffydack> make a sentence, not 1 word per line
[18:04] <skorasaurus> yes, if you intend to use it primarily on linux
[18:04] <skorasaurus> (as the guide states)
[18:04] <lukasz> I would like to install the glx Nvidia drivers
[18:04] <EnMasse187> well when i put my mouse over the task bar it flashes grey to a new task bar??
[18:05] <imaginativeone> aahhh...
[18:05] <EnMasse187> i typed this command sudo debconf gnome-panel
[18:05] <imaginativeone> I'd better get back to you after I read the guide
[18:05] <EnMasse187> i did a google search on no task bar showing and i got that command from ubuntu forums
[18:05] <EnMasse187> now my task bar has two forms if i put my mouse over it goes grey, if i leave it to goes back to my custom theme
[18:05] <nvc> < duffydack> nvc: try the newer virtualbox
[18:06] <Squideshi> I am trying to run the Ubuntu 8.10 live CD on a Dell Inspiron 1100 with an Intel 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV graphics controller. I think there is a problem with xorg.conf because it keeps booting to either a blank black or orange screen with nothing other than a working mouse pointer.
[18:06] <nvc> what version is it?
[18:06] <lukasz> How do I install Nvidia-GLX drivers
[18:06] <imaginativeone> how can I tell if my usb external hard drive is detected by the bios?
[18:06] <Tommck> I am still at a loss here.  I can not get a graphical login to work (KDE or Gnome) with my Gutsy box.  I have tried various nVidia drivers (nv, nvidia) and the "vesa" drivers and none seem to make a difference.  I have not found any information that helps me .  Anyone have any new ideas?
[18:07] <CyberGabber> nvc: Is HOST-L and HOST-HOME not working ? Maybe ypu changed your HOST-key seting?
[18:07] <nickrud> lukasz, system->admin->hardware drivers
[18:07] <lukasz> does it include GLX?
[18:07] <nvc> CyberGabber: how do i check to see if it's working?
[18:07] <nickrud> lukasz, yes, it installs the driver supplied by nvidia
[18:07] <lukasz> thnx
[18:07] <lukasz> I will do that and comeback and tell you how it worked
[18:08]  * nickrud considers hiding
[18:08] <Tommck> xfce doesn't work, failsafe doesn't work.. :(
[18:08] <Tommck> this is a MythTV box, so this is quite upsetting (major wife-related issue here)
[18:09] <EnMasse187> nope
[18:09] <EnMasse187> still no tray
[18:09] <EnMasse187> what was the thing i should go to in system?
[18:09] <CyberGabber> nvc: See: File > Preferences > Input.   Thats says what keys are for switching HOST
[18:09] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: have you received help for the .xsession problem?
[18:09] <Tommck> oh, and it's the same for every user in the system too
[18:09] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: i was away....
[18:10] <EnMasse187> what was it?
[18:10] <EnMasse187> the thing i had to go to get my tray back?
[18:11] <nvc> CyberGabber: the key is default
[18:11] <nvc> the right ctrl key
[18:11] <nickrud> EnMasse187, most likely, right click panel, add to panel, select notification area
[18:11] <EnMasse187> k
[18:11] <nvc> the problem is that the whole function is unavailable
[18:11] <nvc> which is ODD
[18:11] <nvc> :S
[18:11] <EnMasse187> yea
[18:11] <EnMasse187> thanks
[18:11] <EnMasse187> :D
[18:11] <EnMasse187> <3
[18:11] <FloodBot1> EnMasse187: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:12] <EnMasse187> now two more helps are needed, first how do i erase stuff from amarok library without erasing it to trash or my hd?
[18:12] <EnMasse187> 2nd, how do i erase a folder that was added to my places menu on the main task bar?
[18:13] <D32> Ever since I upgraded to 8.10, my bandwidth has been throttled & certain sites always time out (h33t.com) it isn't a DNS issue, it isn't in my hosts file !!!
[18:13] <onetinsoldier> EnMasse187: for the 2nd one, poke around in... System --> Preferences --> Main Menu
[18:13] <EnMasse187> did that
[18:13] <nickrud> EnMasse187, on the second: open a file browser: bookmarks -> edit bookmarks
[18:13] <CyberGabber> nvc: So press Right CTRLK-key AND the L at once to switch to seamless. Once in seamless-mode press right Ctrl HOME for menu...
[18:14] <EnMasse187> how do i open file browser?
[18:14] <EnMasse187> >_<
[18:14] <onetinsoldier> EnMasse187: Alt+F2... type in   Nautilus
[18:14] <nvc> CyberGabber: yeah, not working. and the menu option to start is showing it as not available
[18:14] <D32> how do you run a file browser when you don't know which one you have!
[18:14] <EnMasse187> <3
[18:15] <EnMasse187> so now how do i erase stuff from amarok library
[18:15] <EnMasse187> without actually erasing the files?
[18:15] <wos> how do you setup deluge to download everything behind a proxy?
[18:15] <EnMasse187> amarok auto adds stuff to library, not cool
[18:16] <D3RGPS31> Ever since I upgraded to 8.10, my bandwidth has been throttled & certain sites always time out (h33t.com) it isn't a DNS issue, it isn't in my hosts file (still trying)
[18:16] <Tommck> can someone familiar with the graphical login process help me?
[18:16] <jim_p> can i use 1280*800 with the vesa driver?
[18:16] <CyberGabber> nvc: It is not selectable ? Grayout ?
[18:16] <nvc> grayed out, yes
[18:16] <nvc> unselectable
[18:17] <EnMasse187> who here uses amarok?
[18:17] <nickrud> jim_p, no: you can see the allowed resolutions in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:17] <EnMasse187> need some helps
[18:17] <nickrud> EnMasse187, you're more likely to find amarok users in #kubuntu
[18:17] <jim_p> thanks Nick_
[18:17] <jim_p> nickrud,
[18:17] <Pici> EnMasse187: Please be patient and ease up on pressing the enter key so often.
[18:17] <lukasz> Is there a driver for DL-Max Webcam For Ubuntu?
[18:17] <EnMasse187> soz
[18:18] <cameronh> how can i get apt to stop keeping so many packages in /var/cache/apt? I'm using a network wide cache, so it doesn't need to keep stuff on the hard drive after it's done with it..
[18:18] <AMDMutant> nvc: have you installed guest additions?
[18:18] <CyberGabber> nvc: What are you running as guest ? XP r somthing ?
[18:18] <nvc> AMDMutant: i haven't. what is it and how do i do it?
[18:18] <nvc> XP, yes
[18:18] <lukasz> Nvidia works well no crashes btw
[18:18] <frobblert> does anyone know of a good way to read/import outlook pst files on ubuntu? (not including running windows in a VM)
[18:19] <lukasz> Now back to the DL-Max Asus G1S driver for Ubuntu!
[18:19] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier yes thanks. lol fixing it now
[18:19] <nickrud> !webcam | lukasz (best source of info I know)
[18:19] <Pici> frobblert: I'm completely guessing, but if one tool was able to do it I'd guess it would be evolution.
[18:19] <sinan> i have a desktop which has no internet connection. How can i install open-ssh on it ? I can access the internet from my laptop if any files are needed.
[18:20] <cubevanbaby> it was a bit of a silly move on my end. I had a gut feeling removing that line was going to break something
[18:20] <CyberGabber> nvc: OK, start your Xp-guest, so that its completely running. Then choose 'devices' > 'install guest additions'
[18:20] <Pici> !offline | sinan
[18:20] <nickrud> Pici, we could wish :( I ended up putting into a remote imap store and importing it into evolution
[18:20] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, roger. just curious, how are you getting it fixed? what line did you remove?
[18:20] <Pici> nickrud: yuck
[18:21] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier - usr/bin/icewm -_-''
[18:21] <nickrud> Pici, I use that anyway, so it was only a matter of waiting for it to upload
[18:21] <D3RGPS31> Ever since I upgraded to 8.10, my bandwidth has been throttled & certain sites always time out (h33t.com) it isn't a DNS issue, it isn't in my hosts file (still trying)
[18:21] <AMDMutant> nvc: try install it
[18:21] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: if you own a file or have proper permission, always make a backup copy of the file before editing it
[18:21] <nvc> CyberGabber: currently installing
[18:21] <onetinsoldier> as in any file
[18:21] <jtaji> frobblert: what I've done recently at work is to add a gmail account using IMAP to outlook, copy the emails from outlook's folders to gmail IMAP folders, then add gmail w/ IMAP in new client and copy messages down
[18:21] <wos> can anyone tell me how to setup deluge to download everything behind a proxy?
[18:21] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: roger that
[18:21] <EnMasse187> its impossible
[18:22] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier yeah I should have done that i don't know why i didn't was taking gambling and lost lol
[18:22] <frobblert> thanks pici, nickrud, jtaji: thats a shame...i should have done that before leaving my job with a 100mb line
[18:22] <TR3Y> Is there a way to list all channels on this server?
[18:22] <cubevanbaby> er taking a gamble
[18:22] <nickrud> frobblert, hahahahahahahaha
[18:22] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: i've made the same mistake a few times. i think we all have, hehe.
[18:22] <nvc> holy shit
[18:22] <nvc> it works
[18:22] <nvc> thank you guys so much
[18:22] <Pici> TR3Y: /msg alis list *searchterm*
[18:22] <FloodBot1> nvc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:22] <Pici> nvc: Please watch the language as well.
[18:22] <nickrud> !language | nvc (think disney G rated)
[18:22] <CyberGabber> nvc: After installing the additions, tou must reboot your Guest (XP)
[18:23] <TR3Y> Pici: Thanks
[18:23] <biswajit> hi
[18:23] <EnMasse187> guys you saent me to kubuntu
[18:23] <EnMasse187> and they sent me to amarok
[18:24] <EnMasse187> and amarok is not helping
[18:24] <EnMasse187> >__>
[18:24] <frobblert> apparently the other way is for me to run thunderbird in windows and import the mail that way, but then you lose the attachments
[18:24] <FloodBot1> EnMasse187: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:24] <lukasz> So if the commands shows /dev/video0 I am fine right?
[18:24] <biswajit> hi i need a help regarding the webcam
[18:27] <nvc> CyberGabber: thanks again. all working now. i'll remember that for future usage. ]=>
[18:27] <vjacobb> hello all! After reading 3 different pages on how to get the java6 plugin working with firefox, I'm almost at the point where I've decided to give up. Can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[18:28] <lukasz> This is what it showed /dev/video0
[18:28] <Tommck> anyone have any ideas why I can't login with KDE, Gnome, Xfce or failsafe modes?
[18:28] <imaginativeone> I couldn't find anything special in the bios...
[18:28] <vjacobb> all the packages are installed, however the java plugin doesn't show up in about:plugins
[18:28] <Tommck> it seems that my xorg.conf is working fine..
[18:28] <NicEXE> some applications (like blender) and some games does not look proper when compiz is enabled. Is that normal? Can I fix that?
[18:28] <Tommck> it just kicks me back to the login prompt every time
[18:28] <Tommck> the only error I get is that xrdb can't connect to display '0.0' - is there a way to find out why?
[18:29] <sky_> is there any way to change order of disks, because i have linux and windows install on second one, and that brings lot of troubles (grub)
[18:29] <kaiser10123> does xubuntu have room
[18:29] <onetinsoldier> vjacobb: are you using the 64-bit userspace ubuntu architecture? or are are you running 32-bit?
[18:29] <bazhang> kaiser10123, #xubuntu
[18:29] <lukasz> You guys should add more mirrors for this Ubuntu 8.04 TLS
[18:30] <vjacobb> onetinsoldier: 32-bit, I'm on eeebuntu
[18:30] <imaginativeone> would I be able to find my drive with Knoppix?
[18:30] <jussi01> lukasz: you should use a torrent ;)
[18:30] <lukasz> More mirrors to the update mirrors
[18:30] <lukasz> It downloaded fast
[18:30] <cubevanbaby> hmmm not familliar with using recovery mode do I select root then I do chown user.user /home/user/.xsession?
[18:31] <lukasz> Just upates slow
[18:31] <vjacobb> onetinsoldier: hmm, hold on, I might have gotten it working... don't know for sure yet
[18:31] <Shpook> Okay, I still have problems with my wireless. I managed to get it to connect by re-entering the connection information, but after a reboot, I still have no connection. I really need to get the wireless set up to work with no hassle, this computer is for my 10 year old daughter
[18:31] <lukasz> I am on Ubuntu 8.04 TLS now :D
[18:32] <onetinsoldier> vjacobb: i'm not sure why you'd be having a problem then. shold be as easy as installing in the sun-java6-plugin(for firefox)... and you're done. i'm using 64-bit nowadays. however, when i had 32-bit i never had an issue
[18:32] <lukasz> My webcam is builtin :D
[18:33] <D3RGPS31> Ever since I upgraded to 8.10, my bandwidth has been throttled & certain sites always time out (h33t.com) it isn't a DNS issue, it isn't in my hosts file (still trying)
[18:33] <Shpook> What happened was: roaming mode was enabled. I disabled it, and lost the connection to my wlan. I re-enabled it, and it connected, with no internet access. netstat -rn showed an empty routing table, until roaming mode was disabled. But still no connection, and the network manager won't display any networks with roaming disables.
[18:34] <cubevanbaby> I cannot believe after like 3 days I'm talking like this hilarious. It's almost like I might be starting to understand lol. and I have to commend you folks.  I don't know many people who are basically doing tech support out of the kindness of their hearts to help on their own time.
[18:34] <kaiser10123> how big in ubuntu install and is it any smaller to do xubuntu install
[18:34] <kaiser10123> i wanna use ubuntu on my dell mini 9
[18:34] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: :-)
[18:35] <usser> kaiser10123, takes about 5-6gb
[18:35] <usser> kaiser10123, xubuntu takes maybe 3gb
[18:35] <Shpook> kaiser10123: http://www.ubuntumini.com/
[18:35] <lukasz> I dunno why on my old laptop Webcam used to crash heh
[18:36] <Shpook> I use Ubuntu Eee and it takes about 2gb
[18:36] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier well it's true! XD you guys are reaching out and helping people get started on linux and none of you have to be doing this. certainly wasn't around I don't think when my friend started using it oh gosh like a decade ago maybe more. and if so it certainly wasn't as popular or out there as it is now
[18:36] <kaiser10123> Shpook: i seen that sight but i wanted to dual boot xp with ubuntu  or xubuntu on a 16gb ssd
[18:36] <kaiser10123> site*
[18:37] <Shpook> I don't think it would be an issue. Just look up on dual booting windows/ubuntu
[18:37] <Shpook> you should still have 8+ gb left
[18:37] <kaiser10123> wondered how much smaller xubuntu was i have used both how big are some of the gnome libs i want to use xubuntu cause it should be faster but with a few gnome applets
[18:38] <kaiser10123> i know how to dual boot my desktop has xubuntu, sabayon and vista
[18:39] <Shpook> honestly, i'm not very happy with anything *buntu right now...I would've thought after all this time they would've fixed their wireless issues
[18:39] <Shpook> oh oh oh ok, my apologies
[18:39] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: i like helping, it's fun. and we need as many linux users as possible! and i think, the more people get help, the more they stick with it
[18:39] <Shpook> I don't know honestly, I imagine it's not an extreme difference
[18:40] <AMDMutant> headache
[18:40] <onetinsoldier> Shpook: i followed your first statement, but you lost me after that
[18:40] <kaiser10123> im am interested in how big and well sabayon would be they have a new mini pc option on the live dvd havednt tried it yet
[18:40] <Shpook> onetinsoldier: which part? :D
[18:40] <kaiser10123> wanted to see how big xubuntu was then ask someone there how big there mini install option was
[18:40] <D3RGPS31> Ever since I upgraded to 8.10, my bandwidth has been throttled & certain sites always time out (h33t.com) it isn't a DNS issue, it isn't in my hosts file (still!)
[18:41] <Shpook> kaiser10123: well, i'm pretty sure the mini and eee installs are roughly the same, and my eee install takes up about 2gb
[18:41] <onetinsoldier> Shpook: i don't think it's so much an ubuntu issue as it is manufacturers not supporting linux with proper divers. if i were you, i'd be glaring at the makers of these wireless nics, not ubuntu
[18:41] <Imaginativeone> what's the easiest way to format my external drive?
[18:42] <Imaginativeone> I have an ancient copy of Knoppix
[18:42] <usser> Imaginativeone, dd
[18:42] <Imaginativeone> will I need something different?
[18:42] <kaiser10123> Imaginativeone i use gparted to format
[18:42] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier it's totally true. I think the thing that scares people the most is that fear of lack of support. I know I was scared at first. then I found the channel. lol. and everyone is so awesome. there are so many people who want to help and offer to teach it's amazing. I did not expect after 3 days to even get as far as I am now. I thought I would be sitting here crying sucking my thumb with a broken lap
[18:42] <Shpook> onetinsoldier: Well, yeah, I agree. the main problem is manufacturers using proprietary drivers and not releasing source.
[18:42] <nickrud> Imaginativeone, you've probably got cfdisk on that knoppix, works fine
[18:42] <onetinsoldier> Shpook: although i hear that intel gives fairly decent support for their wireless, although i wouldn't know firsthand
[18:43] <Imaginativeone> usser: dd...that wasn't cool
[18:43] <usser> Shpook, onetinsoldier intel's wifi is opensourced now and is actually usable on intrepid
[18:43] <usser> Imaginativeone, what?
[18:43] <usser> Imaginativeone, dd will clean it up
[18:43] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: lol. i am happy to hear you haven't regretted taking the plunge
[18:43] <onetinsoldier> usser: roger... see my message above
[18:43] <usser> Imaginativeone, and u can create partitions using mkfs
[18:43] <lukasz> Ok When I type sudo and some application it works
[18:43] <onetinsoldier> usser: :-)
[18:43] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: have you upgraded yet >.>
[18:44] <lukasz> But when I type password in su says authenthication failure
[18:44] <nibsa1242b> how to I pause a printer?
[18:44] <nickrud> lukasz, that's because you don't have a root password
[18:44] <Blair> hi
[18:44] <Shpook> usser: good, hopefully more will jump on the bandwagon. In order for ubuntu to be used by the majority of people, and have market share, it needs to be able to "just work"
[18:44] <mewshi> Sweet :)
[18:44] <NicEXE> some applications (like blender) and some games does not look proper when compiz is enabled. Is that normal? Can I fix that?
[18:44] <Blair> I have a question
[18:44] <lukasz> The password works for sudo gedit
[18:45] <lukasz> Hopw do I give the root a password?
[18:45] <nickrud> lukasz, yes, that's your user password not a root password
[18:45] <nibsa1242b> how do I pause a printer?
[18:45] <lukasz> aha
[18:45] <nickrud> !rootsudo | lukasz (not recommended)
[18:45] <usser> NicEXE, do u have an intel video card?
[18:45] <Blair> I get a weak signal from my router, and can connect to it in windows, but in Ubuntu it doesn't even show up.
[18:45] <Blair> Why can't I connect to weak signals in Ubuntu?
[18:45] <Shpook> Right now my main issue is losing wireless after disabling roaming mode.
[18:45] <nickrud> lukasz, and one more thing: use gksu for graphical gnome/kde apps, you can mess up perms in your home dir if you use sudo gedit
[18:46] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: nope.. not yet. and i'm not going to upgrade to jaunty, it will be a second installation. i DID figure out my sound issue with 2.6.28. i had not put the driver in the kernel for my sound card at all. i put it in and recompiled and it worked a treat with no issue whatsoever.  ;-)
[18:46] <Blair> is roaming mode on by default?
[18:46] <NicEXE> usser: MSI ATI R4650 (1GB)
[18:46] <lukasz> aha So its not recommended
[18:46] <D3RGPS31> :D
[18:46] <Shpook> Blair: yes it is
[18:46] <NicEXE> usser: but I was using an intel GPU (I upgrated today!)
[18:46] <Blair> then it doesn't really answer my question :-(
[18:46] <usser> NicEXE, are u using a proprietary driver? it still has some issues
[18:46] <lukasz> I understand now
[18:47] <usser> NicEXE, ati's support is generally not very good
[18:47] <Mythril> is there any way to undo an rm command?
[18:47] <Blair> Shpook: Any idea why I can't connect though?
[18:47] <NicEXE> there was only one driver available (I am on ubuntu 8.10 64-bit)
[18:47] <Shpook> Blair: I was stating my own problem :P But I've nevr had an issue finding weak networks.
[18:47] <cubevanbaby> hmmm
[18:47] <NicEXE> usser: there was only one driver available (I am on ubuntu 8.10 64-bit)
[18:47] <usser> NicEXE, did it prompt you to install a driver? if so then this is the one
[18:48] <NicEXE> yes
[18:48] <usser> NicEXE, and its not very good :)
[18:48] <nibsa1242b> how do I pause a printer?
[18:48] <Shpook> Well, I'm off to google then.
[18:49] <usser> NicEXE, i'm reluctant to suggest it, but if compiz is really really important then u can try to update to latest driver from ati.com
[18:49] <usser> NicEXE, it may break things though
[18:49] <onetinsoldier> NicEXE: how's it going? i can probably help with ati driver if you'd like...
[18:50] <lukasz> My webcam shows me uside down :(
[18:50] <lukasz> How can I fix that?
[18:50] <cubevanbaby> k so I went in chown the file back to me just in case so I went into the file using sudoedit -u <username> .xsession.... when ever I try to type in what I want /usr/bin/icewm it just keeps saying already at oldest change (or newest change it keeps flipping back and forth if I keep typing) and nothing shows up just ~ vertically all the way down if that makes sense. Never edited a file like this in recover :-/
[18:50] <cubevanbaby> *recovery
[18:51] <lukasz> UpsideDown*
[18:51] <biomass> cubevanbaby: that's the vi editor
[18:51] <cubevanbaby> oh oh nm
[18:51] <cubevanbaby> nm I got it lol *feels silly and giggles*
[18:51] <usser> NicEXE, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI scroll down to Install from ati.com read it carefully and see if u can do it, if not dont start
[18:52] <cubevanbaby> hm so how do I save my changes and exit?
[18:52] <biomass> cubevanbaby: press escape and the   :x  <enter>
[18:52] <cubevanbaby> thanks for telling me what this is biomass when I get this back up I'm going to do a bit of research lol
[18:53] <bullgard4> "$ sudo apt-get source xorg" produced the directory /xor-7.3+10ubuntu10.2 having root access rights. Why does source code need root access rights?
[18:53] <biomass> cubevanbaby: hehe, no problem.. I struggled with vi for a long time before I understood what was going on =)
[18:53] <Blair> I get a weak signal from my router, and can connect to it in windows, but in Ubuntu I can't connect to it
[18:53] <EightEleven> lucasz: Is it a Logitec webcam?
[18:53] <nickrud> cubevanbaby, if you want to use a simpler/easier editor with that, run   sudo update-alternatives --config editor , and choose nano
[18:53] <lukasz> Its a DL-Max
[18:53] <usser> bullgard4, its only root owned because u ran package manager as root
[18:53] <Al_nZ> would someone be able to help me with vncserver? I have it running on ubuntu but cant connect to it from my XP box. Says connect failed?
[18:53] <Al_nZ> I dont think I have the right port open, but then again not even sure if a firewall is running, or the right port open?
[18:53] <nickrud> BULLE, because you used sudo to get it
[18:53] <usser> bullgard4, so it inherited permissions
[18:53] <nickrud> bullgard4, ^^ sorry BULLE
[18:54] <lukasz> DL-Max Asus G1S
[18:54] <cubevanbaby> thanks nickrud I'll keep that in mind :) I like easy way way more
[18:54] <EightEleven> Lukasz: Ok, I googled for some webcam problems some time ago.
[18:54] <lukasz> hmm
[18:54] <EightEleven> Lukasz: And I remember that some module options could fix this.
[18:54] <cubevanbaby> crap!! E486 pattern not found: usr
[18:54] <mortuis99> HELLO i just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and am having a problem with the sound (or lack of volume) can someone help?
[18:54] <lukasz> oops
[18:55] <EightEleven> Lukasz: One solution involved recompiling.
[18:55] <lukasz> hmm
[18:55] <bullgard4> usser: But I would not have got the source code package without running the sudo prefix.
[18:55] <lukasz> How do I do that ?
[18:55] <me> can I format ext3 from a mac?
[18:55] <EightEleven> Lukasz: But if you Google for Asus+webcam+module+parameters, you might find some usefull info.
[18:55] <nickrud> bullgard4, false
[18:55] <EightEleven> Lukasz: Unfortunately I no longer have the direct link.
[18:55] <lukasz> hmm
[18:55] <onetinsoldier> NicEXE: how's it going? i can probably help with ati driver if you'd like...  you don't need any help? sniff sniff
[18:55] <nickrud> bullgard4, for source anyway :)
[18:55] <nite_johnboy> Hi - My wife gave me a all-in-one Canon printer for Christmas - Is there somewhere I can go to see if it is supported by Cups for Ubunbtu ? ? Running Ibex 8.10.
[18:56] <usser> bullgard4, you can download source as regular user
[18:56] <usser> ls
[18:56] <usser> err
[18:56] <SchneiderWeisse> Hi
[18:56] <usser> !printer
[18:56] <cubevanbaby> hmmmm is ther a way to simply recover the file. I sense what I'm doing is not working. I assume when it highlights everything in red with a big E it means error you break things bad bad end user
[18:57] <EightEleven> Lukasz: Googling for ubuntu+webcam+upside+down already gave me a linkt that might be usefull: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=724486
[18:57] <usser> nite_johnboy, linuxprinting.org
[18:57] <mortuis99> HELLO i just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and am having a problem with the sound (or lack of volume) can someone help?
[18:57] <bullgard4> nickrud: '$ apt-get source xorg' did not download any package.
[18:57] <SchneiderWeisse> how can I disable, that I'm always asked for my password, when I want to do sth. - it's almost as annoying as under vista...
[18:57] <NicEXE> onetinsoldier: I prefer open source drivers
[18:57] <bullgard4> usser: '$ apt-get source xorg' did not download any package.
[18:58] <EightEleven> me: I have Ubuntu running on a Mac, and yes, then you can. :)
[18:58] <onetinsoldier> NicEXE: ok, roger that. :-)
[18:58] <nickrud> bullgard4, it's downloading something here
[18:58] <bullgard4> nickrud: Hm.
[18:58] <EightEleven> me: I guess OSX and OS9 will not be able to format ext3.
[18:58] <usser> bullgard4, works here, probably because you have the source u downloaded earlier in the same directory?
[18:58] <nite_johnboy> usser; Thank you - I had also forgot about the " ! " to ask ubottu - as well.
[18:59] <bullgard4> usser: Let me check.
[18:59] <usser> EightEleven, actually you can now that fuse for mac was released
[18:59] <nickrud> bullgard4, and no where near the entire source. With the modularization of X I assume
[18:59] <pianoboy3333> What are some good/easy ways to compress an avi file?
[18:59] <AshTray-> Any ideea why my sever wont let me login via ftp? I've done all that is written here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588
[18:59] <usser> EightEleven, http://code.google.com/p/macfuse/
[19:00] <EightEleven> usser: Good to know.
[19:01] <usser> EightEleven, spoke too soon, ext3 may not be supported after all
[19:01] <usser> nite_johnboy, np
[19:01] <cubevanbaby> crap crap I think I broke it good :(
[19:01] <hikenboot> hello all can someone tell me how to get Places to show hidden files?
[19:01] <AMDMutant> cubevanbaby: if you want to edit something make sure you make a backup first
[19:02] <Martiin> IMA LI BG:)
[19:02] <SexyMarty> I have a question about hard drive partitions can anyone help me?
[19:02] <hikenboot> whats the question SexyMarty
[19:02] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: what's happening? i think all you said was the line that was missing in there was...  /usr/bin/icewm-session   ....you didn't just add that back into it?
[19:03] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: or are you having a different issue now?
[19:03] <RegularMarty> Is there any way for me to determine which partition is which by the device name?  I want to move my home folder to a separate partition but I can't remember which one is which.
[19:04] <hikenboot> RegularMarty, cat /etc/fstab
[19:04] <hikenboot> RegularMarty, fdisk -l
[19:04] <kroffe> what most i have to start my own webhotel?
[19:04] <onetinsoldier> RegularMarty: use blkid...  sudo apt-get install blkid , use it then edit your fstab file accordingly
[19:05] <hikenboot> anyone able to tell me what is used for the Places browser in gnome in ubuntu 8.1 need to show hidden files
[19:05] <RegularMarty> cool.. thanks guys
[19:05] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier - it keeps giving me a line highlighted in red with an error E486: Pattern not found :usr
[19:05] <bullgard4> usser: If I had downloaded the source earlier, there should exist two directories xorg-7.3+10ubuntu10.2   .  But there exists only one (after I executed '/$ sudo apt-get source xorg'.)
[19:05] <D3RGPS31> Ever since I upgraded to 8.10, my bandwidth has been throttled & certain sites always time out (h33t.com) it isn't a DNS issue
[19:05] <Synx_hm> Is there a way to do a headless install from the live server cd?  I need to be able to ssh into the install environment as i do not have a serial capable laptop at this time
[19:06] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: what does? what are you trying to do exactly and what's giving you this red line?
[19:06] <NotSure> what player do I need to watch yahoo video?  all I get is like code in the white box where the video is suppose to be???
[19:06] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: use pastebin if you have to
[19:06] <usser> bullgard4, try to delete the one u downloaded earlier
[19:06] <bullgard4> nickrud: Your English " and no where near the entire source. With the modularization of X I assume" is difficult to understand for me.
[19:06] <cubevanbaby> ohhh I'm in recovery, root, vi editor apparently I went into sudoedit -u <username> .xsession to get there
[19:06] <Martiin> Does somebody play xiaspora ?
[19:07] <kroffe> what most i have to start my own webhotel? plz help me
[19:07] <cubevanbaby> once in I type /usr/bin/icewm but that's when i get the  error
[19:07] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: would you like to start with a fresh .xsession file? if so, just delete the current one and i'll give you steps to take to make sure a fresh new one is created, from scratch
[19:08] <nickrud> bullgard4, unlike most software, apparently X isn't kept all in one source file anymore. 910k doesn't come close to what is needed. Modularization means broken up into chunks
[19:08] <NunoCoutinho> Ubuntu is the best SO
[19:08] <me> Man...
[19:08] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: on second though, just in case, rename the current one. ;-)
[19:08] <me> adding a drive is friggin HARD
[19:08] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier sounds good to me
[19:08] <cubevanbaby> lol how do I delete this silly thing
[19:08] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, one moment
[19:08] <cubevanbaby> no worries
[19:09] <cubevanbaby> I'll look it up also see what I find
[19:09] <pisecx> Hi. Why do we need /etc/mtab when we have /etc/fstab?
[19:10] <Ground0_> pisecx google both
[19:10] <bullgard4> nickrud: Now I understand. Thank you. Yes, I agree that the problem may be linked to the fact that X is now offered in several chunks.
[19:10] <AMDMutant> double esc
[19:10] <lukasz> I am having trouble with my webcam, its upside down anyonelese solved the problem?
[19:10] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ignore the instructions in here about running the 'Xorg -configure' command. other than ignoring that, follow the instructions and it should create a fresh new .xsession file for you. after it has been created, then there should be no problem with you adding your 'feh' command to it
[19:11] <Imaginativeone_> test
[19:11] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: 1) determine what display_manager you use with --> cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager  2) log out of x-windows  3) Ctrl+Alt+F1  4) login to the console termminal  4) sudo invoke-rc.d <display_manager> stop (for example -->  invoke-rc.d gdm stop  <--, this shuts down x-windows completely)  5) sudo Xorg -configure (this command should create a full xorg.conf.new file in the root users home directory)
[19:11] <AshTray-> How to make an user for vsFTPd ?
[19:11] <pisecx> Ground0_: it says "And it does only lists the mounted devices !" but try to run command "mount /media/fake"
[19:11] <onetinsoldier> 6) make a backup of your old xorg.conf file first if you wish --> sudo cp -v /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old  7) sudo cp -v /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf  8) now it's time to try your new xorg.conf file by starting x-windows back up --> sudo invoke-rc.d <display_manager> start
[19:11] <gkd720> Is this an appropriate place for vnc questions? I'm having trouble seeing the desktop of an Ubuntu machine from a Windows machine.
[19:12] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: and ignore steps 6 & 7 as well, of course
[19:12] <bullgard4> usser: Let me give up to try to understand the reason completely for this evening. It may be related to the fact that Ubuntu oofers X now not as a single package but in several chunks.
[19:12] <bullgard4> offers
[19:12] <Martiin> How can I make a server on Xiaspora.?
[19:12] <pisecx> Ground0_: the result will say "Couldn't find /media/fake into /etc/fstab & /etc/mtab". The question is: why does it try to find it in /etc/mtab?
[19:12] <AshTray->  How to make an user for vsFTPd ?
[19:12] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ignore steps 5, 6 & 7
[19:13] <jtaji> pisecx: you may have mounted a filesystem not in fstab, this way you can unmount it if it's only in mta
[19:13] <jtaji> b
[19:13] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier got it thanks. I'll give this a whirl and let you know what happens\
[19:13] <pisecx> jtaji: I don't run umount, I run mount =)
[19:13] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: you can copy and paste all of that into a file and save to your hard drive to make it easier.
[19:13] <Ground0_> pisecx This file handles the mounted devices and is automatically updated by the mount command.
[19:13] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, good luck :-)
[19:13] <pisecx> Ground0_: I know, but why it tries to read it for mount
[19:13] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier - already have lol
[19:13] <pisecx> Ground0_: I'm just interesting...
[19:14] <cubevanbaby> just in case i bugger up like this again
[19:14] <jtaji> pisecx: to prevent mounting to a used mount point?
[19:14] <scientes_> how do you run anothers user's x apps in your X session?
[19:14] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH gkd720
[19:14] <ireko> hi! i've changed default theme for cursors in kcontrol, i put new theme into /usr/share/icons and ~/.icons, but old theme is still when coursor hovers kicker or wallpaper. what more should i do?
[19:14] <scientes_> for priviliage seperation
[19:14] <pisecx> jtaji: probably, but it says: can not mount _because_ couldn't find it in /etc/mtab =)
[19:14] <scientes_> gkd720, you should use X fowarding and turn on compression for ssh
[19:14] <lukasz> I have to restart
[19:14] <Ground0_> pisecx http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/1998-12/msg00207.html
[19:15] <scientes_> X is faster if compression is turned on
[19:15] <pisecx> jtaji: just try "mount /media/fake
[19:15] <Synx_hm> Is there a way to do a headless install from the live server cd?  I need to be able to ssh into the install environment as i do not have a serial capable laptop at this time
[19:15] <kroffe> how do i start a webserver?
[19:15] <Ground0_> pisecx do you get paid for doing nothing or something?
[19:15] <NotSure> what player do I need to watch yahoo video?  all I get is like code in the white box where the video is suppose to be???
[19:15] <bazhang> !lamp > kroffe
[19:16] <_M4rk_> Hi all. my MySQL seems to be running ultra slow on my VPS for some reason, anyone any ideas on how to resolve this?
[19:17] <kovacs> ubuttu
[19:17] <AshTray-> How to make an user for vsFTPd ?
[19:17] <Ground0_> NotSure http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=watch+yahoo+video+ubuntu
[19:17] <pisecx> Ground0_: man, all I want is to understand how everything is working. it's not urgent. but I'm interesting why does it try to read this file when can not find something in /etc/fstab )
[19:18] <NotSure> thx
[19:18] <pisecx> Ground0_: if this question is annoying you - just ignore
[19:18] <cubevanbaby> oopsies hm ok so onetinsoldier in recovery -> root@user:~#cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager right?
[19:18] <Ground0_> pisecx cant help but not ignore
[19:18] <onetinsoldier> hi. i just installed Vuze/Azureus last night to get and serve Ubunu .iso's. i am wondering why it keeps prompting me to update over and over after i have ok'd the update. do i need to run it as root once for this to clear up?
[19:19] <dea> server irc.rizon.net
[19:19] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: yes...  that's to determing what you will use for the invoke-rc.d command
[19:19] <onetinsoldier> dtermine8
[19:19] <cubevanbaby> ah ha! thanks!!! XD
[19:19] <onetinsoldier> determine*
[19:19] <kovacs> and you from where you download games and their name?
[19:20] <kovacs> and your from where you download games and their name?
[19:20] <bazhang> kovacs, dont ask about downloading games here
[19:20] <bazhang> !piracy > kovacs
[19:22] <cubevanbaby> -_-'' how do I log out of xwindows *hides*
[19:22] <usser> bazhang, well some games are opensource :)
[19:22] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: the menu up top in 8.10...  System --> Logout
[19:22] <bazhang> usser, counterstrike and Wow was what he wanted to download
[19:22] <usser> bazhang, oh
[19:23] <mwilson_> did em ever find his amorok?
[19:23] <mwilson_> and any ideas why my video overlays do a 50% HUE shift?
[19:23] <[Spooky]> WoW is downloadable legal...
[19:24] <mwilson_> the whole thing????
[19:24] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: but that's in compiz... not sure for xfce. it shoukld be right down there on your menu somewhere
[19:24] <bazhang> no
[19:24] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier I don't have a menu :-/ when I type that out it returns /usr/bin/xdm and then brings me back to root@user:~#
[19:24] <[Spooky]> Yes.
[19:24] <mwilson_> gonna piss off the people that bought it..  eh eh.
[19:24] <mwilson_> they have a linux flavor?
[19:24] <cubevanbaby> I know what will keep me calm through this. an ounce of pot lol
[19:24] <bazhang> its offtopic here and illegal
[19:24] <nickrud> bazhang, yes, you can even get a free 15 trial
[19:24] <nickrud> *day
[19:24] <cubevanbaby> bazhang I'm just joking
[19:25] <lukasz> How do I create a directory and move a file there
[19:25] <bazhang> nickrud, counterstrike?
[19:25] <[Spooky]> Blizzard have a client downloader on the account homepage...
[19:25] <nickrud> bazhang, wow
[19:25] <me> do I have to just return my external drive?
[19:25] <mwilson_> lukasz: in shell, type mkdir...   then you can use cp to copy I believe.   type man mkdir and man cp for text
[19:25] <lukasz> hmm ok
[19:26] <mwilson_> any ideas on hue shifting when I open videos?  hue shift is only within the video overlay.
[19:26] <duffydack> mv = move
[19:26] <cubevanbaby> tough room (makes a note to keep jokes to herself)
[19:26] <AMDMutant> daybreak's bell
[19:26] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, this will kill everything you have open.. but here's how you can do it.   invoke-rc.d gdm stop   ...if gdm is your display manager
[19:26] <Ground0_> lol
[19:26] <st_> I have a ubunt-supported WAG54GC USB Wifi (linksys) adapter. Now, I know it works fine in ubuntu 32bit 8.10 but I want to test the new alpha 64bit version and I'm curious as to whether it will affect the driver compatibility that ubuntu already has within it. Thank you.
[19:27] <st_> sorry, *WUSB54gc
[19:27] <mwilson_> any ideas on hue shifting when I open videos?  hue shift is only within the video overlay.
[19:28] <roca> whats a good ftp server prog?
[19:28] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: just do that from a terminal while you're in X
[19:28] <duffydack> roca: proftpd
[19:28] <roca> duffydack, thnx
[19:28] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier... uhhh I am not sure. I am in recovery mode I have nothing. But I think i am using kde
[19:28] <lukasz> Command for copying pls
[19:28] <duffydack> ubuntuforums has a nice guide (proftpd with user access)
[19:28] <lukasz> To another dir
[19:28] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: can you boot into normal mode?
[19:29] <cubevanbaby> nope
[19:29] <onetinsoldier> not at all?
[19:29] <nickrud> lukasz, in general,  cp /path/to/files/* /path/to/new/dir/
[19:29] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: what happens when you try to boot into normal mode?
[19:29] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier no that's why it's so horrficially broken lol
[19:29] <onetinsoldier> what happens?
[19:29] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier if I go to login the screen goes black and brings me back to the login screen
[19:30] <mwilson_> any ideas on hue shifting when I open videos?  hue shift is only within the video overlay.
[19:30] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier so then I went into recovery so everything is text based now and I'm a bit lost because I've never been in the recovery console. from there I selected root
[19:30] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, at that point, try following the instructions, start with step #3
[19:30] <cubevanbaby> ohhhh
[19:30] <cubevanbaby> ok
[19:31] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: and don't bogart that j
[19:31] <eugman> How do I convert from GiB to MiB? Do I just multiply by 1024?
[19:31] <Schuenemann> yes
[19:31] <erUSUL> eugman: yes
[19:31] <eugman> Ah thanks. I wasn't sure and gparted shows units in MiB
[19:32] <eblume> Hi - I'm having trouble getting World of Warcraft running with Wine on an ATI graphics card. I've followed the Ubuntu-wiki HOWTO on it. Where should I go to get help - is there a channel on freenode?
[19:32] <cubevanbaby> lol onetinsoldier I should also remember that not every country is probably as open about it as the one I'm in and that some people just plain don't like it heh
[19:32] <erUSUL> !appdb | eblume
[19:32] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: roger
[19:32] <bazhang> #winehq eblume
[19:33] <eugman> I'm making a partition for backups, do I want to use ext2 or ext3?
[19:33] <erUSUL> eugman: ext3
[19:33] <eugman> erUSUL: thanks
[19:33] <shams> how can i change text screen(ctrl+alt+F1) font size?
[19:33] <shams> how can i change text screen(ctrl+alt+F1) font size?
[19:34] <mwilson_> any ideas on hue shifting when I open videos?  hue shift is only within the video overlay.
[19:34] <eblume> Thanks erUSUL, bazhang
[19:34] <Mageiriki-me-bas> sorry
[19:34] <Mageiriki-me-bas> may i make a question
[19:34] <Schuenemann> !ask
[19:35] <Mageiriki-me-bas> How can i extract a movie that is in multiple .rar files? Which packet do i need?
[19:35] <Schuenemann> unrar
[19:35] <bazhang> !rar> Mageiriki-me-bas
[19:36] <Mageiriki-me-bas> SchneeSchwarz, and then? i select all of them, an unrar?
[19:36] <pikario> hi, what is compizconfig?
[19:36] <bazhang> !ccsm > pikario
[19:37] <roca> anyone else install ebox and cant even get irc but can surf the net?
[19:37] <Ground0_> bazhang do we have a cmd for letmegooglethatforyou lol
[19:38] <NotSure> I have attempted to install all the google search softeware I found and I still get the white box where there should be a video....  in it it looks like a bunch of code that I cannot copy paste...  CNTRLS =undefined ID= undefined all things it is loking for are undefined...    Can someone help me.. I have installed flash, macromedia flash, gnash, gstrea,er....  I cant watch yahoo video...
[19:38] <bazhang> Ground0_, that is generally considered unfriendly; better to use the wiki and ubuntu help to give the answers, /msg ubottu to familiarize yourself with the factoids
[19:39] <duffydack> Mageiriki-me-bas: either the one that ends in .rar or part01.rar
[19:39] <bazhang> NotSure, you have installed flash from where, uninstall gnash and you may also want to install flash from the repos again
[19:40] <NotSure> ill try
[19:40] <lvlefisto1> hi, i am using Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex 8.10, i installed the sun-java6-jre from the official repo, but still can't run java applets on firefox
[19:40] <funnydude> hiya
[19:41] <Schuenemann> lvlefisto1, you have to create a symlink
[19:41] <duffydack> need the plugin for it too
[19:41] <Schuenemann> let me see
[19:41] <everettz> Is the following the correct way to access the Intrepid live CD from a removable media device?  1. extract the ISO to the root of the device, 2. rename /isolinux to /syslinux and /isolinux/isolinux.cfg to /syslinux/syslinux.cfg, 3. Run syslinux (win32) "syslinux.exe -s -f -m -a -d /syslinux d:"?
[19:42] <duffydack> sun-java6-plugin
[19:42] <funnydude> is Fedora easy to use? Is there a tutorial which I can use to help me use it in a VM and a server?
[19:42] <lvlefisto1> Schuenemann: that's what i thought. Does anyone know which is the name of the .so file i must symlink?
[19:42] <Schuenemann> lvlefisto1, .mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[19:42] <bazhang> #fedora for that funnydude
[19:42] <lvlefisto1> thanks Schuenemann
[19:42] <duffydack> funnydude: howtoforge.com is good
[19:43] <duffydack> funnydude: odd, ive NEVER had to do anything with any ubuntu
[19:43] <msch> hi, where can I find a backport of kernel 2.6.28 for intrepid? Google didn't turn up anything useful
[19:43] <funnydude> what do you mean you never had to do anything?
[19:43] <duffydack> just installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and the rest is taken care of
[19:44] <duffydack> never had to symlink files to get it to work
[19:44] <Schuenemann> I always do
[19:45] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone tell me how to install ubuntu through a pendrive, i wish to use the minimal iso 9mb?
[19:45] <duffydack> odd
[19:45] <funnydude> sorry don't know what that means, is it easier setting up/using ubuntu on a desktop[ and server than Fedora?
[19:45] <mwilson_> any ideas on hue shifting when I open videos?  hue shift is only within the video overlay.
[19:46] <me> Pirate_Hunter: what's the capacity of your drive?
[19:46] <duffydack> I dunno im only really used to debian systems
[19:46] <oussama> Hi every body
[19:46] <duffydack> as far as setting up a server goes, its easy as hell in ubuntu
[19:46] <Pirate_Hunter> duffydack: 10gb but i wish to do a minimum isntall using a pen drive
[19:46] <duffydack> easy on a desktop to setup server too
[19:47] <pikario> is there a way to immediately terminate ubuntu with no shutdown process?
[19:47] <AMDMutant> confusing...
[19:47] <n8tuser> pikario -> not a wise idea, as minimum you need to sync
[19:47] <duffydack> sorry was talkin to funnydude
[19:47] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier ok done XD do I just exit and try to reboot normally now or is there other stuff to do/
[19:48] <pikario> n8tuser: i need it for emergencies, i might need to terminate the OS immediately. is there a way to do this?
[19:48] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone tell me how to install ubuntu through a pendrive, i wish to use the minimal iso 9mb?
[19:48] <duffydack> pull the plig :)
[19:48] <duffydack> plug*
[19:48] <onetinsoldier> pikario: you mean hibernate or suspend or something like that?
[19:48] <micky> pikario " shutdown -f -h now "
[19:48] <n8tuser> pikario -> certainly the O F F swtich can do that
[19:48] <Pirate_Hunter> :Lp[]
[19:48] <n8tuser> pikario -> but not wise
[19:48] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: when you say 'done'. what do you mean exactly?
[19:48] <pikario> O F F switch?
[19:49] <sinbox> pikario, or just pulled the plug off
[19:49] <n8tuser> pikario -> yes, the other side is marked  O N
[19:49] <pub> is it possible to make a macro that points and clicks over a certain time period
[19:49] <duffydack> Pirate_Hunter: isnt there some info on ubuntu.com or the wiki
[19:49] <funnydude> is using the ubuntu on the desktop the same as the server?
[19:49] <mwilson_> any ideas on hue shifting when I open videos?  hue shift is only within the video overlay.
[19:49] <pikario> sinbox: would that shut down ubuntu though?
[19:50] <n8tuser> pikario -> not a wise idea, as minimum you need to sync
[19:50] <pikario> i know, but i only use it in case of emergencies for work
[19:50] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier - nm lol I went back to your message and you said that once I finished off the steps that it would recreate .xconfig for me. lol
[19:50] <duffydack> erm, only thing i know thats different is the kernel is the -server kernel and theres no gui... other than that, i just did sudo tasksel and setup apache/php/sql
[19:50]  * sinbox wonders what sort of emergencies pikario is talking about
[19:50] <Scutum> Hi im wondering how to make my mouse work on the forward and back buttons
[19:50] <cubevanbaby> hi sinbox
[19:50] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok. get to it now
[19:50] <Scutum> Hi im wondering how to make my mouse work on the forward and back buttons?
[19:50] <Draco1> evening, I'm new there and I'm looking for help
[19:50] <cubevanbaby> (is ilmob)
[19:50] <n8tuser> pikario -> what scenario of emergency are you referring to?
[19:50] <duffydack> other than that, ive got a vidiscript site working :)  (youtube clone to you)
[19:50] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ahh! i see
[19:51] <Ward1983> anyone using trixbox?
[19:51] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: just make sure you rename the .xsession file
[19:51] <pikario> sinbox: i work with sensitive data
[19:51] <sinbox> hi cubevanbaby
[19:51] <mwilson_> has anybodyincluded the X-Fi drivers, updated, in their distro?  Just curious.  Working here but would like some of the other features it has.
[19:51] <pikario> would pulling the plug of the computer shut down ubuntu immediately?
[19:51] <Draco1> is there anyone there so kind to dedicate me 10 minutes?
[19:51] <AMDMutant> Draco1: there? where?
[19:51] <sinbox> pikario: it would shut down the whole computer immediately
[19:51] <pikario> or would it just start discharging the battery?
[19:51] <CaMason> Xorg is constanly using >30% CPU on my asus Eee (1.6ghz Atom)... Any ideas on how to find out what's causing that?
[19:51] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: then start at step #3 and ignore steps 5, 6, & 7
[19:51] <duffydack> pikario: why would you want to end the OS that quick
[19:52] <guntbert> !ask | Draco1
[19:52] <n8tuser> pikario ->  if you were spying on someone, that will not hide your tracks
[19:52] <duffydack> pikario: its not advisable in any OS....
[19:52] <mwilson_> pikario: It wouldn't shut it down..   it'd freeze every action in it's tracks including disk writes..   so, possible bad data.  Not a suggested action.
[19:52] <Igramul> How can I install man-pages for standard C library functions (i.e. open or printf)?
[19:53] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier ok cool. so do I just boot up normally or do I need to do all that in recovery?
[19:53] <msch> Igramul: apt-get install manpages-dev I think
[19:53] <pikario> i'm sure just unplugging the computer would be the fastest way to shut down the computer
[19:53] <sinbox> if you told us what sort of "emergency" you are talking about pikario  we might have some better suggestions rather than something which could totally mess up your machine
[19:53] <pikario> but unfortunately i have a laptop and unplugging the computer would just discharge the battery
[19:53] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: do this by booting up normally, or trying to anyway
[19:53] <eblume> Hi - how can I tell which ATI drivers I have installed? How can I update them?
[19:53] <cubevanbaby> cool XD
[19:54] <seishi> I use a 200gb hd, ubuntu 8.10 in a 8gb partition... and the rest for data. i wonder if can increase my system performace by using a pen drive to hold the O.S. instalation. Any tips ? I used 2 hard disk, one for system and other for data, but I lost one and noticed the performace loss in access to files when i use 1 hd only.
[19:54] <duffydack> quickest way to do it safely would be to assign the power button as Shutdown in power management options
[19:54] <n8tuser> pikario ->  are you spying on someone?
[19:54] <Dr_Willis_AAO> pikario,  onmost machines you press/hold the power button for a few secs = it powers off  idmeiatly
[19:54] <duffydack> as opposed to clicking stuff...i mean
[19:54] <Igramul> msch, that worked, thanks.
[19:54] <coco> Hello
[19:54] <pikario> n8tuser: i might be, but that also might be my job
[19:54] <AMDMutant> pikario: press power button for 1 hours
[19:54] <pikario> n8tuser: but that's irrelevant
[19:55] <pikario> anyway, i'm off
[19:55] <pikario> thanks, bye
[19:55] <cubevanbaby> oh man
[19:55] <cubevanbaby> still broken
[19:55] <duffydack> eblume: fglrxinfo
[19:55] <Draco1> ok, well, I just installed ubuntu, but I didn't install the bootloader.
[19:55] <Draco1> what I wanted to do is to boot it without the bootloader ( that apparently isn't possible ), what I need now is to know if I can - like - install the bootloader on my third HD ( where ubuntu is ) instead of the MBR of my primary hd, letting bios settings handle whitch hd to boot from.    Is that possible?
[19:55] <onetinsoldier> Igramul: here's what id did to find the printf man page that's already installed on my system...  locate printf | grep man  -->  /usr/share/man/man1/printf.1.gz    dpkg -S /usr/share/man/man1/printf.1.gz  --> coreutils: /usr/share/man/man1/printf.1.gz
[19:55] <n8tuser> as soon as pikario i will tell the sekwet
[19:55] <duffydack> eblume: depends how you installed em
[19:55] <lukasz_> brb
[19:55] <funnydude> ive install ubuntu in Vmware but the CD icon is showing up on the desktop, im assuming the OS is running from the iso (live CD)
[19:56] <Dr_Willis_AAO> Draco1,  yes its possible. and works very well on my machines. I keep grub boot loader on every hd :)
[19:56] <funnydude> how do i do a full install on vmware?
[19:56]  * cubevanbaby throws laptop out of her window and watches it smash into 348978923 pieces on the sidewalk below
[19:56] <eblume> duffydack, I didn't install them. They were there already after installation.
[19:56] <onetinsoldier> Igramul: you can also use a package/utility named 'apt-file'  -->  sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update
[19:56] <Dr_Willis_AAO> funnydude,  make a  virtual hd for vmware, install to it.. re boot the vm , and tell it to not mount the iso file/cd/
[19:56] <Schuenemann> cubevanbaby, I would take it from you
[19:56] <eblume> duffydack, fglrxinfo said that I have 2.1.8087 installed. Is that the most up-to-date?
[19:56] <duffydack> eblume: what, the 3d ati drivers?  doubtful
[19:56] <Draco1> ok, can you explain it to me in private? this channel is too chaotic for my tastes :S
[19:56] <duffydack> well, ive never heard of that before
[19:56] <funnydude> how do you do that?
[19:56] <AMDMutant> cubevanbaby: why 348978923 pieces ?
[19:57] <gocrazynow> on ubuntu i unchecked mysql in order to start it manually, should i uncheck mysql-ndb and mysql-ndb-gm in the services?
[19:57] <cubevanbaby> Schuenemann :P no waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay I'm gonna get this working even if it kills me it's way too sweet a pice of hardware. so teeny tiny
[19:57] <eblume> duffydack, What can I say? I installed Ubuntu, went to "Hardware Drivers", clicked on ATI, clicked "enable"
[19:57] <n8tuser> actually there if one is good at mapping a keystroke to a key combo,  i have the answer pikario
[19:57] <eblume> and then that was that.
[19:57] <Draco1> or maybe link to the right procedure
[19:57] <duffydack> you have to tell it to use em cuz they are proprietary
[19:57] <Dr_Willis_AAO> Draco1,  you  basically follow the !fixgrub guide and instgall to the otehr hds
[19:57] <cubevanbaby> AMDMutant no reason I just like mashing the number pad
[19:57] <duffydack> gocrazynow: just mysql is enuff
[19:57] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier sadly didn't work :(
[19:58] <sinbox> cubevanbaby, were you ilmob?
[19:58] <duffydack> eblume: yeah thats what i mean... you installed em, they werent there before hand
[19:58] <cubevanbaby> sinbox yeah lol
[19:58] <Schuenemann> cubevanbaby, =]
[19:58] <eblume> duffydack, Ok. How can I make sure they are up to date?
[19:58] <duffydack> eblume: they dont get updated very often, if at all...dont worry about it
[19:59] <cubevanbaby> Schuenemann it's a vaio - pcg c1vp soooo tiny!!
[19:59] <joejc> is it easy to move home folder from ubuntu to to sabayon when installing sabayon?
[19:59] <duffydack> keeping the system upto date should include those too
[19:59] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok.. i don't know what you've done to breakit exactly then i guess. what happened when you did   Ctrl+Alt+F1  ..? you have to tell me these kinds of things rather than just say it's still broken or doesn't work
[19:59] <onetinsoldier> !doesn't work
[19:59] <gocrazynow> duffudack: i'm new on linux, and don't know what the this services is. is it ok to uninstall it? will my database run normally without it?
[19:59] <duffydack> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:59] <Draco1> Dr_Willis_AAO, I already read that page I think, and I can't figure out exactly what procedure to use, of all the one listed ...
[19:59] <eblume> duffydack, I'm trying to get World of Warcraft installed using wine, and the How-To I'm working on now says that to fix the graphics issue I might be seeing now I need to update or re-install my graphics drivers
[20:00] <eldok> Anyone here that could unban me from openSuse?
[20:00] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier sorry lol hitting ctrl+alt+f1 didn't work in recovery so I hit exit and booted normally
[20:00] <duffydack> untick mysql service and it wont start at bootup.. the other mysql services wont start either
[20:00] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, and?
[20:00] <cubevanbaby> OHH wait
[20:00] <cubevanbaby> hold on I fail
[20:00] <duffydack> if you need mysql all the time then leave it.. else just sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start      when you need
[20:01] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier well when I tried to log in it kept looping
[20:01] <cubevanbaby> screen goes blak and then back to the login screen
[20:01] <kabny> It seems impossible to get wireless working with Ubuntu fro me. DOES THE ISO_IMAGE COME WITH NDISWRAPPER?
[20:01] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: as i said.. start at Step #3
[20:01] <mwilson_> ah, kabny, nope.
[20:01] <Dr_Willis_AAO> Draco1,  basicially you  install grub, to the other hd.. nothing real fancy.  GRUB is worth reading the homdpage/docs/guides to learn excatly how grub works in case it breaks.  the command would be somthing like   'sudo grub-install /dev/sd##'  I think
[20:01] <joejc> does sabayon autimaticly move home folder from ubuntu?
[20:01] <mwilson_> I had to do that for my laptop.  Works well, but I don't recall where I downloaded it.
[20:01] <lukasz> Could someone please enable my account Lukasz Tarkowski
[20:02] <duffydack> eblume: i dont know about games in WINe
[20:02] <Dr_Willis_AAO> joejc,  perhaps ask the Sabayon Channel?
[20:02] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: step #3 is NOT logging in
[20:02] <lukasz> On Ubuntu forums
[20:02] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier yeah I just clued in when I was at the login screen hitting crtl+alt+f1 worked and i was like oh crap that's what he meant
[20:02] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: rofl
[20:02] <eblume> duffydack, Do you know about re-installing graphics drivers? Thanks for your help, btw.
[20:02] <cubevanbaby> hence the oops I fail hold on lol
[20:02] <cubevanbaby> lol I know I knoq sometimes I'm a teeny bit slow on the uptake LOL
[20:03] <zaphands> hello all! I'm having problems using the nvidia installer. I use a custom kernel. I get the vague message: "If you are using a Linux 2.6 kernel, please make sure you have configured kernel sources matching kernel ...". Can anyone help?
[20:03] <duffydack> eblume: but you have the latest "ubuntu" ati drivers... if you need newer you need to follow some guide somewhere to install the ones from ATI website.... ive never had any luck with em myself, never booted to a GUI, always dropped to shell..cant be bothered to waste time on em myself
[20:03] <erUSUL> zaphands: if you compiled your own kernel you need the build directory around
[20:03] <eblume> Okey doke, thanks.
[20:03] <Draco1> Dr_Willis_AAO, thanks, I will try it.
[20:04] <ubuntu__> hola
[20:04] <ubuntu__> su  madre
[20:04] <onetinsoldier> howdy
[20:04] <nowy> holaa....alguien tiene problemas para conectar y ver ciertas web estos dias con firefox/ubuntu 8.10 desde españa????
[20:04] <erUSUL> !es | nowy
[20:04] <xjkx> my second network interface card isnt listed in ifconfig, what do i do ?
[20:04] <duffydack> for games, id just boot to my XP install.. its faster and less bullshat
[20:04] <zaphands> erUSUL: What's the build directory? /usr/src/linux?
[20:04] <onetinsoldier> !es | ubuntu__
[20:04] <erUSUL> zaphands: yep the source directory
[20:05] <duffydack> aTI drivers aint nowhere near as fast in linux.. I need all the frames/sec i can get on my old 3gig p4/9800
[20:05] <cubevanbaby> -_-' LOL ok I see what this did it's like I'm in the terminal without the gui *dies laughing* ok
[20:05] <zaphands> erUSUL: I have it. The symlinks in /lib/modules/linux are also ok. But I still get this message.
[20:05] <onetinsoldier> duffydack: are you using the 8.12's?
[20:05] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: yep... hehe
[20:06] <erUSUL> zaphands: well then i dunno "works for me" i also use custom kernel + nvidia*.run
[20:06] <Ken-ken> hi
[20:06] <Ken-ken> aoda
[20:06] <kabny> Im using Vista and accoring to
[20:06] <duffydack> the only game i even play is UT2004, and even tho its got a native linux version, its just not acceptable to me, ive been playin it for so long im used to it running a certain speed.... as for the tearing issue, thats another thing that grips my shit
[20:06] <Ken-ken> ahh
[20:06] <Ken-ken> okey
[20:06] <NotSure> how can I get my computer to recognize my dvd drive?
[20:06] <Ken-ken> what this is ?
[20:06] <zaphands> erUSUL: I downloaded the kernel from www.kernel.org. Do I need any additional special package?
[20:06] <jussi01> !ohmy | duffydack
[20:06] <Dr_Willis_AAO> !kernel | zaphands
[20:07] <duffydack> whatever is in the ubuntu repos
[20:07] <erUSUL> zaphands: no that i know of
[20:07] <chad> can anyone help! I'm having a few problems with avant and have a few other questions.
[20:07] <Ken-ken> help
[20:07] <duffydack> sorry :)
[20:07] <Ken-ken> whats this is?
[20:07] <kabny> Im using Vista and according to Wikipedia ndiswrapper isn't available for Vista-drivers. Does thta mean it could still work or does i mean I should download a XP-driver for my wireless card and then use ndiswrapper and with that on Ubuntu?
[20:07] <lukasz> brb
[20:07] <Ken-ken> ahh
[20:07] <Ken-ken> okey
[20:08] <zaphands> erUSUL:  Thanks for the help.
[20:08] <NotSure> how can I get my computer to recognize my dvd drive?
[20:08] <Ken-ken> pueden ablar español?
[20:08] <erUSUL> zaphands: no problem
[20:08] <erUSUL> !es | Ken-ken
[20:08] <onetinsoldier> !es | Ken-ken
[20:08] <Ken-ken> hhaha
[20:08] <duffydack> it took me SO long to get videos to stop tearing... had to add some Overlay options to xorg
[20:09] <Ken-ken> but  talk english
[20:09] <kabny> Im using Vista and according to Wikipedia ndiswrapper isn't available for Vista-drivers. Does thta mean it could still work or does i mean I should download a XP-driver for my wireless card and then use ndiswrapper and with that on Ubuntu?
[20:09] <Ken-ken> jojojo
[20:09] <gkd720> bazhang: I read the link provided for vnc, and it sounded like vino_server, which is already running, should be good enough to make my Hardy machine able to be vnc-ed to. I used a vnc viewer on a Windows machine with my hostname, using :0 and :1, but I get a 'connection refused'. I now see from the link writeup that there is a bug with vino and Hardy, allowing only IPv6 connections, so should this work?
[20:09] <Ken-ken> but....
[20:09] <Ken-ken> what this is ?
[20:10] <dave_> Anyone there?
[20:10] <duffydack> Whenever i have the choice of a new laptop again, i`ll be stayin away from ATI crap
[20:10] <Pirate_Hunter> !minimal
[20:10] <Dr_Willis_AAO> gkd720,  thats odd.. i vnc to my  linux box with ultravnc and vino all the time
[20:10] <erUSUL> Ken-ken: see topic; btw is "What is this?"
[20:10] <duffydack> rant over
[20:10] <NotSure> Can someone help me.......      how can I get my computer to recognize my dvd drive?
[20:11] <Ken-ken> Ubuntu 7.04 "Feisty Fawn" Minimal CD 8.4MB
[20:11] <Ken-ken> ohh
[20:11] <Ken-ken> yeah
[20:11] <Ken-ken> thanks
[20:11] <Ken-ken> erUSUL
[20:11] <gkd720> ﻿Dr_Willis_AAO: Well, I'm using 'realvnc' if that matters?
[20:11] <diablillo> hola
[20:11] <diablillo> alguna española por aqui?
[20:11] <erUSUL> !es | diablillo
[20:11] <diablillo> ok
[20:12] <diablillo> any spanish women?
[20:12] <Dr_Willis_AAO> diablillo,  if we all say NO would you get the hint?
[20:12] <diablillo> i see Dr
[20:12] <duffydack> #ubuntu, great place to pick up chicks
[20:12] <kabny> clojurebot : contrib?
[20:13] <diablillo> It?s my first time in this chat
[20:13] <NotSure> Dr_Willis_AAO can you help me??      how can I get my computer to recognize my dvd drive?
[20:13] <duffydack> you like your ladies "open" too then
[20:13] <cubevanbaby> wow trolls really are everywhere
[20:13] <jussi01> duffydack: please keep it family friendly
[20:13] <duffydack> lol , that was weak, sorry
[20:14] <Dr_Willis_AAO> NotSure,   ayou need to be a bot more clear i guess.. try mounting the drive manually for a test..
[20:14] <jussi01> duffydack: and on topic ;)
[20:14] <NotSure> Dr_Willis_AAo  thanks, thats a start... how do I mount it???
[20:15] <Dr_Willis_AAO> NotSure,  time to learn some linux basics I gues...
[20:15] <Dr_Willis_AAO> !mount | NotSure
[20:16] <duffydack> NotSure: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid   the holy grail
[20:16] <Dr_Willis_AAO> NotSure,  'mount' command is what you will be using
[20:16] <rmn> i can't get luksFormat with --batch-mode to recognise a keyfile.  syntax suggestions?
[20:16] <chad> anyone help me? I'm having a few issues./
[20:16] <onetinsoldier> !anyone
[20:16] <duffydack> if you cant find something in the intrepid one, go back to hardy and gutsy, they dont repeat stuff , usually
[20:19] <cubevanbaby> ohhh xdm is kde
[20:19]  * cubevanbaby tries again
[20:19] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, you're using xdm?
[20:19] <cubevanbaby> yup
[20:20] <cubevanbaby> tried gdm but it didn't work cause that's gnome right? I just tried xdm *crosses fingers and toes*
[20:20] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: yes, gdm is gnome
[20:21] <Org-Mode> isnt xdm xubuntu?
[20:21] <duffydack> guessing xdm is xfce
[20:21] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: if you're a kde user, you might want to install kdm  --> sudo apt-get install kdm
[20:21] <m0niker> ?
[20:21] <AMDMutant> that's just poker face
[20:22] <Dr_Willis_AAO> err.. xdm last i looked was the OLD ORIGINAL  login manager.. xfce
[20:22] <Dr_Willis_AAO> not xfce  specific
[20:22] <cubevanbaby> :( kdm didn't work either still getting the black screen and back to login after i shutdown kdm
[20:22] <cubevanbaby> was there something else i needed to do that I'm missing?
[20:22] <duffydack> sounds like you need a reinstall
[20:22] <onetinsoldier> xdm, kdm, gdm... most display managers will work fine for other environments, so it's not really much of an issue which one you have installed
[20:22] <cubevanbaby> duffydack I'm using xubuntu
[20:23] <duffydack> i know linux people hate that word..  but sometimes things are too messy
[20:23] <cubevanbaby> kdm it didn't find
[20:23] <sinbox> what is the problem today cubevanbaby ?
[20:23] <Dr_Willis_AAO> i had issues ages ago with ATI video  and logout hanging,  I had to tell the kdm/gdm servers to always-restart the X server option in their configs.
[20:23] <onetinsoldier> Also, for display managers, you can have more than one installed and control which one you are actually using through a command similiar to this -->  update-alternatives --config x-display-manager
[20:23] <lukasz> How can I fix my terminal
[20:24] <lukasz> None commands work
[20:24] <sinan> how can i make Intrepid autologin ?
[20:24] <scensis> join #Ultimateedition
[20:24] <scensis> ops
[20:24] <Dr_Willis_AAO> sinan,  gdm and kdm both have those options
[20:24] <cubevanbaby> lol sinbox I removed /usr/bin/icewm from my .xconfig file
[20:24] <sinan> Dr_Willis_AAO: how to enable them?
[20:24] <sinbox> check your path lukasz
[20:24] <sinan> Dr_Willis_AAO: I am using gdm.
[20:24] <lukasz> This shows  >
[20:24] <Dr_Willis_AAO> sinan,  their config tools have a tab for that.
[20:24] <lukasz> How can I fix that?
[20:24] <sinan> Dr_Willis_AAO: let me check, thanks.
[20:25] <sinbox> ah, so you were going for windowmaker then cubevanbaby ?
[20:25] <nowy> :( i had many problems for acces to some webs..:(
[20:25] <nowy> any web for see in 'realtime' healthy of hole internet?
[20:25] <BobPenguin> Hello. I did risize t2o linux OSs partitions and when I rebooted GRUB was not able to boot either linux. I guess I whould have had to resintall GRUB after I resized partitions. Now I do have access to a windows partion on that box but no CD. Is there any simple guide to install GRUB from windows? Is there some command on GRUB that will make it search adn detect partitions, so I do not have to reinstall it?
[20:25] <lukasz> How can I check my path?
[20:25] <onetinsoldier> lukasz: what happens to that prompt if you prss Ctrl+c on your keyboard?
[20:25] <onetinsoldier> press*
[20:25] <Flannel> lukasz: echo $PATH
[20:25] <Dr_Willis_AAO> lukasz,  echo $PATH
[20:25] <lukasz> ok
[20:25] <radu> hi all
[20:25] <Dr_Willis_AAO> bash b asics
[20:25] <cubevanbaby> sinbox sorry you list me. i'm just trying to get back to that file either delete it and create a new one or just edit the existing
[20:26] <radu> hello
[20:26] <lukasz> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[20:26] <radu> radu here
[20:26] <alfdavid> hello
[20:26] <radu> how are you
[20:26] <radu> ?
[20:26] <radu> :)
[20:27] <lukasz> None of commands work :(
[20:27] <onetinsoldier> lukasz: press ctrl+c
[20:27] <bigshot> hello my inbuilt microphone is not working --  i am testing it with Skype -- i tried adding "option snd-intel-sound = vaio" in alsa-base, tried various configuration in skype but no dice -- can anybody help me out here?
[20:27] <lukasz> They still don't work
[20:27] <bigshot> I am using sony vaio laptop
[20:27] <BobPenguin> Radu, I thik you're suppossed to just ask your ubuntu questions here, not chat
[20:27] <AMDMutant> !welcome|radu
[20:27] <sinbox> wasn't there a recent xconfig.back (or something) in the same folder cubevanbaby ?
[20:27] <radu> I get it !
[20:27] <kerm|t> how can i highlight a PDF?
[20:27] <Flannel> radu: If you're looking to chat, we have #ubuntu-offtopic where you're welcome to chat in
[20:28] <radu> How can i free space on hdd
[20:28] <radu> using XUBUNTU
[20:28] <Dr_Willis_AAO> radu,  err.. delete stuff you dont need?
[20:28] <radu> and make it run faster
[20:28] <radu> ?
[20:28] <radu> :)
[20:28] <lukasz> one command worked :D
[20:28] <BobPenguin> Radu, I thik you're suppossed to just ask your ubuntu questions here, not chat
[20:28] <BobPenguin> Hello. I did risize t2o linux OSs partitions and when I rebooted GRUB was not able to boot either linux. I guess I whould have had to resintall GRUB after I resized partitions. Now I do have access to a windows partion on that box but no CD. Is there any simple guide to install GRUB from windows? Is there some command on GRUB that will make it search adn detect partitions, so I do not have to reinstall it?
[20:28] <Dr_Willis_AAO> radu,   disalb eeuecandy and other stuff you dont need.. which proberly is not much you can do
[20:28] <onetinsoldier> lukasz: what worked?
[20:29] <mgjs> ,
[20:29] <Gast219> nabend
[20:29] <Flannel> !grub | BobPenguin, first link
[20:29] <BobPenguin> thanks flannel and ubottu1
[20:29] <duffydack> radu:  check services and disable what you dont need...which isnt many, for me... also look in Sessions..lots of gunk in there.. ubuntu is becoming more like MS
[20:29] <cubevanbaby> sorry onetinsoldier I'm a bit lost now. I tried   invoke-rc.d gdm stop  and   invoke-rc.d xdm stop    invoke-rc.d kde stop returned unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/kde not found when I went back to my login screen and try to log in normally  I get my black screen and it returns to the login. am I missing a step somewhere? or possibly should I be doing something else at this point?
[20:30] <cubevanbaby> sinbox dunno I wasn't able to boot the gui at all see above
[20:30] <Schuenemann> I'm rebuilding a kernel, what command should I issue to create the initrd?
[20:30] <radu> Ok thanks
[20:30] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: have you don't step #8 yet?
[20:30] <sinbox> can you get into the tty though or have you tried selecting a different session cubevanbaby ?
[20:31] <radu> but wich distribution to use that works best on p4 and 640 MB ram
[20:31] <radu> ?
[20:31] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: have you done step #8 using 'xdm' yet?
[20:31] <Dr_Willis_AAO> radu,  some uber-micro one...
[20:31] <Dr_Willis_AAO> puppy linux, feather linux, dsl, or tinycore
[20:32] <onetinsoldier> lukasz: what worked?
[20:32] <Dr_Willis_AAO> radu,  ubuntu + jwm and rox-filer maybe faster then  xfce also
[20:32] <lukasz> I was able to save my webcam
[20:32] <BobPenguin> radu, I guess xubuntu might be just fine, but if not I recommend puppy linux. It's just amazing stuff
[20:32] <sinbox> radu I use ubuntu 8.04 on a p3 with 384Mb of ram, with fluxbox as frontend wr=orks a treat
[20:32] <faisal_d> I'm on Ubuntu 8.04, and I just used system monitor to check my free HDD space... there is a 5 GB difference between the free and available.. any ideas why?
[20:32] <lukasz> I finally got it back
[20:32] <lukasz> No reformatting need it
[20:32] <Dr_Willis_AAO> faisal_d,  5% is reserved for emergancies
[20:33] <faisal_d> ﻿Dr_Willis_AAO: oh.. didn't know that
[20:33] <SexyMarty> Is there a way to rename my mounted drives and partitions?  I'd like something a little more uniform and less ambiguous than "Hard Drive" and "160 gb medium"
[20:33] <duffydack> tune2fs -m 0
[20:33] <Schuenemann> mkinitrd /init-rd-2.6.24.img 2.6.24    <-- is this correct?
[20:33] <lukasz> where can I get video for linux?
[20:33] <radu> So , on 60 Gb HDD ; P4 at 2,27 GHz and 640 Mb RAM i shoul use puppy , feather , dsl or tinycore ?
[20:34] <Dr_Willis_AAO> SexyMarty,  if they are3  vfat/ntfs filesystems give them a proper label .  and it should use that instead
[20:34] <duffydack> faisal_d: sudo tune2fs -m 0 /dev/hda1 or whatever
[20:34] <Org-Mode> BobPenguin: can puppy linux be installed permenatly to hdd? The only options i seen for it was it loaded into ram or something like a livecd, i'd like to use it for more permenant situations
[20:34] <Dr_Willis_AAO> radu,  try them alln - or use some very minimal desktop and ubuntu
[20:34] <faisal_d> ﻿duffydack: thanx mate
[20:34] <Dr_Willis_AAO> Org-Mode,  it can do a HD i nstall
[20:34] <SexyMarty> Dr_Willis_AAO, where would I do that?
[20:34] <duffydack> faisal_d: ive always failed to see the point of the 5% reservation of ext3..
[20:34] <Dr_Willis_AAO> SexyMarty,  I do it under windows.. :)
[20:35] <Org-Mode> ok
[20:35] <duffydack> guess ive never had an "emergency"
[20:35] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier when i do step 8 it outputs a bunch of stuff looks like a list of commands like force, try anyways  etc. i try typing sudo invoke-rc.d force and it says I'm missing a parameter :-/ sorry I missed stp 8 before -_-
[20:35] <SexyMarty> I was afraid you'd say that :P
[20:35] <Dr_Willis_AAO> duffydack,  room for lost+found if the HD is very very full and has to be fsck;d and finds bad stuf
[20:35] <faisal_d> duffydack: is it like for restore points? what goes into those 5%?
[20:35] <drakesoft> Hello, everybody
[20:35] <BobPenguin> yes it can. Boot from the cd , the press the install ison on the desktop, then choose universal installe
[20:36] <BobPenguin> Org-Mode yes it can. Boot from the cd , the press the install ison on the desktop, then choose universal installer
[20:36] <lukasz> Anyone know where I can get video for linux?
[20:36] <Ashfire908> Hi, I need help. Every time when I try to change settings for an email account in Evolution, when I closed the settings window, evolution crashes.
[20:36] <duffydack> i make sure it wont get full..
[20:36] <CyberGabber> SexyMarty: Check this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212585
[20:36] <cubevanbaby> OH OH sorry
[20:36] <Org-Mode> BobPenguin: ok ty
[20:36] <duffydack> its supposed to be for root access, running progs for recovery etc, and as willis says, lost n found..i guess
[20:37]  * cubevanbaby facepalms let me try one more thing
[20:37] <Pirate_Hunter> hi back wondering if there is an option to insatll ubuntu on a pen drive but boot it as FDD it is for an old toshiba satelite
[20:37] <duffydack> for me, in the real world its not needed...
[20:37] <Dr_Willis_AAO> I akways set my reserved space to be like 1%
[20:37] <duffydack> set it to 1% or something then.. i
[20:37] <Lasivian> is there any program under Ubuntu to capture/record streaming media?
[20:37] <duffydack> depends how big your / is set to.
[20:37] <sinbox> Pirate_Hunter, if your old satellite suports booting from USB device I guess yes
[20:38] <Dr_Willis_AAO> Lasivian,  yes.  streamripper, tunafish,  I think. and some others... check the package maanger
[20:38] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: you''l want to astebin this stuff. first do  -->  apt-get install gpm pastebinit
[20:38] <onetinsoldier> pastebin*
[20:38] <Lasivian> Dr_Willis_AAO: thanks
[20:38] <adrian_> hay
[20:38] <Pirate_Hunter> sinbox: it doesnt support usb but as other booting methods like FDD, network lan which is not an option
[20:38] <faisal_d> duffydack, I have a 10G partition for /, and another 100G partition for /home... and those 5 missing from /home are annoying me
[20:38] <duffydack> faisal_d: what mount point is it anyway ?
[20:38] <adrian_> j hawe problem for ubuntu
[20:38] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: you'll want to pastebin this stuff. first do  -->  apt-get install gpm pastebinit
[20:38] <lukasz> Anyone know where I can get my hand of v4l
[20:38] <lukasz> ?
[20:38] <crashsystems> I'm thinking of buying an Ubuntu book for an absolute noob switching from Vista, who needs to learn the basics. Any recommendations?
[20:39] <duffydack> ah.. well,   set to 0
[20:39] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier ok hold on
[20:39] <joshp> theres a ubuntu book at the library
[20:39] <crashsystems> what version does it cover?
[20:39] <faisal_d> duffydack: yeah I was thinking that... don't need much there
[20:39] <duffydack> the chances it being full and errored to hell, well.. if it were me i`d set to 0
[20:39] <joshp> gutsy
[20:39] <adrian_> a hawe instal bearshare on ubuntu
[20:39] <SexyMarty> Thanks Cybergabber
[20:39] <AMDMutant> crashsystems: debian-reference
[20:39] <adrian_> bearshare is apikacion windos
[20:39] <sinbox> you'd have to look into FDD to start USB device disks then Pirate_Hunter and boot it via this, not sure it is actually possible though, I gave up when confronted to that :)
[20:40] <donaldo> How to run the surround sound on a toshiba x205-s9800 chip alc268?
[20:40] <crashsystems> debian-reference?
[20:40] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier I can't connect to the internet dunno how I'll pastebin.
[20:40] <duffydack> dont come here lookin for me when it all goes ****
[20:40] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: oh darn
[20:40] <AMDMutant> crashsystems: sudo apt-get install debian-reference
[20:40] <cubevanbaby> yeah
[20:40] <Dr_Willis_AAO> faisal_d,  note that changin g the reserved spoace will NOT show up untill you reboot i belive...
[20:40] <crashsystems> At most this guy will install the occasional deb, or something from add/remove applications. He really just needs to learn how to use the default apps.
[20:40] <adrian_> kurwa gada tu ktos po polsku
[20:41] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: hard tohelp with this kind of thing if i can't see what's happening
[20:41] <faisal_d> ﻿Dr_Willis_AAO: kk.. thanx
[20:41] <duffydack> sudo tune2fs -l /dev/whatever will show its reserved space
[20:41] <Schuenemann> !info mkinitrd
[20:41] <duffydack> among other things
[20:41] <guntbert> !pl | adrian_
[20:41] <faisal_d> this will help me for now... I guess I should invest in some more storage, probably an external HDD or something
[20:41] <bobo> helo when can find chanel french please ?
[20:41] <lukasz> hmm
[20:41] <adrian_> thanks
[20:41] <guntbert> !fr | bobo
[20:41] <lukasz> !v4l
[20:42] <lukasz> hmm
[20:42] <lukasz> !video4linux
[20:42] <lukasz> ! search v4l
[20:42] <Dr_Willis_AAO> !find v4l
[20:42] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: reboot and try again. iwill give it to you blow by blow
[20:42] <guntbert> !fishing | lukasz
[20:42] <lukasz> ok
[20:42] <duffydack> curiousity, a 100g home, what do you have there?  ihad a 160gig external and its JFS...ext3 is too slow at working with 10-20gig files (virtualbox)..and lots of small files too..
[20:43] <Schuenemann> what package do I need for mkinitrd?
[20:43] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier when I'm at step 8 when I type sudo invoke-rc.d it gives me a list of options and it's discription quiet, force, try anyway, disclose-deny, query, nofallback, help
[20:43] <cubevanbaby> ]i think i'm missing something from the sudo invoke-rc.d command
[20:43] <Draco_> hi, I'm back! I'm still trying to install grub, but the "find etc." command returns me and Error15, I tryed both versions of the line wrote in the faq
[20:43] <faisal_d> duffydack: lots of anime :)
[20:43] <Dr_Willis_AAO> Schuenemann,  i though it was installed by default. try the oc,mmand in a terminal  see if ut suggests a package
[20:43] <Schuenemann> Dr_Willis_AAO, nope. Just command not found
[20:44] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier will do just got your message
[20:44] <alexvd> hello when I upgraded to 8.10 under wireless I can no longer reach servers on my local network. Reaching the internet works fine.   The physical wired connection works but wireless does not.  I am using static addresses.  Anyone have any ideas?
[20:44] <duffydack> ext3 is good in ubuntu, but , like deleting a 20gig file takes a while compared to 0sec in JFS.. im just fussy
[20:44] <faisal_d> JFS?
[20:44] <Schuenemann> Dr_Willis_AAO, I'm using hardy
[20:44] <faisal_d> I used to use ReiserFS... up until all the debacle that happened
[20:44] <lukasz> How can I search apt?
[20:44] <faisal_d> I wonder if the project is still alive
[20:45] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: just ell me when you have rebooted
[20:45] <faisal_d> lukasz: apt-cache search package_name
[20:45] <lukasz> thnx
[20:45] <Strife89> Okay, minor issue here. I installed Ubuntu with Wubi, rebooted manually, let Ubuntu set itself up, rebooted back into Ubuntu (no issues, just testing), rebooted into Windows, uninstalled Wubi with "Programs and Features" (the Vista name for Add/Remove Programs), and rebooted. Ubuntu is still on the boot menu. Any way to remove it?
[20:45] <duffydack> uses less cpu, and is best of both worlds for large/small files
[20:45] <nehalem-> Hi, why is not there the file /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf in Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[20:46] <duffydack> XFS is supposed to be better for large and with some tweaks ok for small too, but im used to JFS.. it`ll do me nicely
[20:46] <denny> Strife89: what boot menu is this, the Windows one?
[20:46] <biomass> Strife89: is it the windows boot menu you are referring too ?
[20:47] <Strife89> denny: Yes.
[20:47] <Strife89> biomass: Yes. :)
[20:47] <denny> biomass: does that still use boot.dat or whatever it's called?
[20:47] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier k k rebooted lol
[20:47] <Strife89> denny: As far as I'm aware. That file is mentioned in msconfig.exe.
[20:48] <Strife89> Be right back.
[20:48] <Draco_> all right, never mind,  good night and thanks anyway
[20:48] <alexvd> Hi having an issue with wireless on 8.10 where I cannot browse other computers on the local network.  Can anyone help
[20:48] <amrik> hi which has better linux support? nvidia or ati
[20:48] <__MAV> Hello guys
[20:48] <SanitariuM2> Getting a segmentation fault when trying to initialize aticonfig for the first time (aticonfig --initial)... my xorg.conf is generic atm with "Configured Device"/etc... can't enable compiz... tried removing/reinstalling the associated fglrx packages to no avail...
[20:48] <denny> Strife89: open boot.ini in wordpad and see if it looks self-explanatory
[20:48] <__MAV> How can I run shell access forom init sript
[20:48] <denny> I haven't done this since NT4, but back then it was really simple to change that file
[20:48] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok,, not Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login... tel me when you;ve done that
[20:48] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok,, now Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login... tel me when you;ve done that
[20:48] <cubevanbaby> yup
[20:48] <cubevanbaby> done
[20:48] <onetinsoldier> ok
[20:49] <biomass> denny: no boot.ini seems to be gone from vista, you need to use bcdedit I believe
[20:49] <__MAV> I have unpacked initrd.img
[20:49] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: now  sudo -i   and login
[20:49] <__MAV> and now what to repack it so it will just boot to bash
[20:49] <portablejim> I am finding that apt-cacher-ng is really slow. is there some apache setting to make it go faster?
[20:49] <Schuenemann> What package do I need to get mkinitrd?
[20:49] <denny> biomass: ah.  That sounds less simple  :)
[20:49] <__MAV> or maybe sh
[20:49] <__MAV> or busybox
[20:49] <biomass> denny: hehe, well it's probably a bit safer too
[20:50] <restartme> ﻿Hello :)
[20:50] <faisal_d> ﻿amrik: from my personal experience, nvidia... but ATI should be getting better drivers soon, after they opened up theri specification
[20:50] <restartme> ﻿How can i run root shell or whatever it is... To Do sh '/home/martynas/Desktop/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.07-pkg1.run'
[20:50] <BobPenguin> Is there a way I can copy the GRUB config file to an USB while being in WIN)(?
[20:50] <tet3> Hey - trying to set up laptop for dual boot. Shrank Vista partition ok, but "Guided - use the largest continuous free space" is showing Ubuntu as 100% of disk. So, need to manuaklly create partition. Should I use primary or logical, and what file system?
[20:50] <BobPenguin> Is there a way I can copy the GRUB config file to an USB while being in WIN98?
[20:50] <duffydack> restartme: sudo su
[20:51] <faisal_d> ﻿tet3: logical and ext3
[20:51] <amrik> faisal_d, oh ok. i've owned an nvidia card for a while and the linux support was decent. i am deciding between the 4850 and the 9800 gtx+ right now and the price and performance for both cards is roughly the same. looks like linux support is the deciding factor :)
[20:51] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier when I go to ctrl+alt+f1 i get my user name login: do i simply type sudo -i login here??
[20:51] <SanitariuM2> Getting a segmentation fault when trying to initialize aticonfig for the first time (aticonfig --initial)... my xorg.conf is generic atm with "Configured Device"/etc... can't enable compiz... tried removing/reinstalling the associated fglrx packages to no avail...
[20:51] <denny> Strife89: http://www.jimmah.com/vista/content.aspx?id=15 (and linked pages) probably has the info you need
[20:51] <duffydack> restartme: sorry i meant sudo whatever
[20:51] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: type in just --> sudo -i
[20:51] <tet3> thx, faisal_d
[20:51] <sinbox> restartme, just type sudo in front of your line
[20:51] <biomass> Strife89: so, look into bdcedit - that should be able to do it
[20:51] <biomass> Strife89: eh, bcdedit
[20:51] <faisal_d> amrik: I hear that... I changed my mind away from many advanced cards for fear they won't work quite well with linux
[20:52] <faisal_d> but that's changing now... ati is big on going open source, and nvidia has decent support
[20:52] <amrik> faisal_d, i know but i would liek to play games also; thats why i have a dualboot still
[20:52] <__MAV> what is maybe_break in init script ?
[20:52] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier ok now do I hit enter?
[20:52] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: after you type that command, login to your root user by entering your password
[20:52] <__MAV> how can I break on a certain stage of init
[20:52] <__MAV> ?
[20:52] <faisal_d> amrik: maybe you want to look into cedega
[20:52] <lvr> how do i find out which video card driver interpid is using?
[20:52] <restartme> Hello :)
[20:52] <restartme> How can i run root shell or whatever it is... To Do sh '/home/martynas/Desktop/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.07-pkg1.run\
[20:52] <restartme> Terminal says... That i need to run this from somewhere in shell...
[20:52] <restartme> I dont know how to boot shell, just tryed to press [ESC] when booting and select command line. But SH does'nt work :(
[20:52] <restartme> I have just installed ubuntu, and it's pissed me off so please
[20:52] <FloodBot1> restartme: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:52] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier I tried entering sudo -i then in password my password and I get login incorrect
[20:52] <md22> hi all
[20:52] <duffydack> not mav from isoservers is it
[20:53] <[a]D> how is ubuntu with radeon cards?
[20:53] <SanitariuM2> Usually good, [a]D
[20:53] <SanitariuM2> Unless you ahve my error which one one is answering
[20:53] <SanitariuM2> Getting a segmentation fault when trying to initialize aticonfig for the first time (aticonfig --initial)... my xorg.conf is generic atm with "Configured Device"/etc... can't enable compiz... tried removing/reinstalling the associated fglrx packages to no avail...
[20:53] <__MAV> restartme: jsut install UBUNTU native driver
[20:53] <[a]D> with all the desktop effects enabled?
[20:53] <restartme> Yeah right
[20:53] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: type in -->  sudo -i   ...then press Enter. then enter in your password
[20:53] <__MAV> bacuse it works best
[20:53] <SanitariuM2> [a]D, usually, yes... see my error above, first time I've encountered it
[20:53] <Strife89> Someone said to use bcdedit?
[20:53] <md22> whats the good size to size for the  swap partition for a system that has 4GB that will be running postgresql ,mysql and apache for development purposes ?
[20:54] <restartme> Only 800x600
[20:54] <md22> *4GB ram
[20:54] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier i did exactly that it returns login incorrect
[20:54] <restartme> :(
[20:54] <__MAV> NVIDIA driver corrupts X-server config
[20:54] <rahduke> I am so sick of Ubuntu, why doesnt this stupid thing work right, I've configured samba 6000 different ways and it still doesnt work right. Why don't my samba shares show up on my Ubuntu to Ubuntu setup? The shares show up fine through XBMC or Boxee or Mythtv but not in Places>network
[20:54] <SanitariuM2> md22 : Most people suggest to use about 150% the size of your physical RAM for swap
[20:54] <__MAV> so just leave it as-is
[20:54] <simon_b> hi all!
[20:54] <restartme> Yra
[20:54] <restartme> Yeah right, i will live it as-is
[20:54] <restartme> ..
[20:54] <rahduke> They will show up eventually if i first launch XBMC pioint to the shares then close
[20:54] <__MAV> ok
[20:54] <simon_b> i just need help setting up my usb-uirt... anyone can help?
[20:54] <biomass> Strife89: yes, read up on it I can't tell you much
[20:54] <restartme> And live with shitty 800x600
[20:54] <faisal_d> rahduke: try places -> connect to server annd choose "windows share"
[20:54] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: you are able to login as your normal user... correct?
[20:54] <restartme> Do you thing?
[20:54] <stompr> hey, I got a funny question, anyone want to help me out?
[20:54] <md22> ok thanks SanitariuM2
[20:55] <__MAV> you can edit it form settings
[20:55] <rahduke> faisal_d:  I have
[20:55] <faisal_d> stompr: don't ask to ask.. just ask
[20:55] <D3RGPS31> anyone have trouble upgrading from 8.10 to 9.04?
[20:55] <__MAV> or manually edit Xorg.conf
[20:55] <rahduke> its a crap shoot sometimes it works sometuimes it doesnt
[20:55] <faisal_d> rahduke: and it's still not appearing?
[20:55] <Strife89> On the boot tab of msconfig.exe, Ubuntu isn't there. I want to look around a bit more before I check it again, though.
[20:55] <stompr> how do I manually assign IRQs?
[20:55] <Strife89> The timeout is 10 seconds. Is it normally that way?
[20:55] <roca> hey guys i cant seem to get connected to the internet wired ... i can wireless and when i plug in the wire my router shows it being connected to a computer
[20:55] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier I logged in using my userid and my password tried sudo -i and then my password again now I'm in root@myusername:~# is that where you wanted me to be?
[20:55] <duffydack> Strife89: it wont be.. windows doesnt do the booting
[20:55] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: loggin in as your normal user was no problem... correct?
[20:56] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ahhh! finally!
[20:56]  * Strife89 hasn't used msconfig in ages.
[20:56] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: yes
[20:56] <rahduke> faisal_d: this is a media center I built for my father for x-mas, its hobbled together from old parts, but he is computer illeterate, so it just needs to work
[20:56] <cubevanbaby> kk starting to understand how this works :)
[20:56] <SexyMarty> Ok I have another question.  I have 2 ntfs drives, sdc1 and sdb1.  I want to mount them at /media/Windows and /media/Storage... what would my fstab lines look like and what mount options should I be using?
[20:56] <Strife89> duffydack: Eh? What do you mean?
[20:56] <duffydack> Strife89:  ubuntu boots ubuntu and passes boot to windows if requested.. windows knows nothing of linux booting
[20:56] <faisal_d> rahduke: I understand what you're saying.. but I find it weird that the samba shares aren't appearing
[20:56] <faisal_d> never faced that issue
[20:56] <Schuenemann> What package do I need to get mkinitrd? Oh come on, someone must've needed it when rebuilding kernel
[20:56] <kabny> When I input my USB-booter in Ubuntu it always boots, however I just want some other stuff on it, how do I access that?
[20:57] <__MAV> What is maybe_break in init script ?
[20:57] <duffydack> you were lookin for ubuntu in the msconfig?
[20:57] <__MAV> how can I break the init script on a certain place
[20:57] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, now. are you sure that you have renamed the .xsession file that was in your normal user's home directory?
[20:57] <duffydack> the boot part... correct?
[20:57] <__MAV> ?
[20:57] <Strife89> duffydack: This was installed through Wubi, so I believe it uses the WIndows bootloader.
[20:57] <rahduke> faisal_d: I've messed with it so many times so many different ways I've re installed ubuntu 4 times, i am really at the end of my rope
[20:57] <stompr> anyone?  anyone know how to force irq assignments on bootup?
[20:57] <duffydack> oh.. ok
[20:57] <restartme> How to apply bigger resolution? With disabled drivers i can view 800x600, wuth enabled drivers i can see 640x480. wtf? :(
[20:57] <duffydack> it is then
[20:57] <restartme> what i need to do, damn :/
[20:58] <minunine> how to stop postgresql running automatically? update-rc.d postgresql remove not works.. plz any help???
[20:58] <lvr> how do i find out which video card driver interpid is using?
[20:58] <Strife89> !resolution > restartme
[20:58] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier  no I never renamed .xsession. don't know how.
[20:58] <duffydack> not familiar enough with vista.. i hated everytime i used it, when fixing peoples pc`s
[20:58] <cubevanbaby> er .xsession
[20:58] <peaces> restartme: you sure its the right driver
[20:58] <__MAV> go to system->prefetrences->resolution
[20:58] <onetinsoldier> lvr: lspci -v | grep VGA
[20:58] <Strife89> duffydack: Heh. I, too, am new to Vista. :)
[20:58] <restartme> kk
[20:59] <restartme> i willl try
[20:59] <restartme> ..
[20:59] <peaces> can anyone tell me why the FN keys on my laptop work after I hibernate it but not when i just boot it up?
[20:59] <stompr> will I have to rebuild my kernel?
[20:59] <__MAV> how can I add kwrnel paarmetes so it will break on a certain place
[20:59] <faisal_d> rahduke: i'm looking into it
[20:59] <Strife89> duffydack: No ideas, then?
[20:59] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: what is your normal user's name in ubuntu?
[20:59] <__MAV> *kernel
[20:59] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier ilmob
[20:59] <AMDMutant> rahduke: samba share?
[20:59] <lvr> onetinsoldier: the driver, not the card
[20:59] <minunine> how to remove postgresql startup link?
[20:59] <duffydack> what are you trying to do again ?
[20:59] <duffydack> remove ubuntu ?
[21:00] <Strife89> duffydack: Just put my bootloader back the way it was.
[21:00] <onetinsoldier> lvr: ok, sorry.   -->  grep drivers /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:00] <duffydack> does the wubi installer have the uninstall option ?
[21:00] <duffydack> never used it, sorry.. know what it does tho
[21:00] <Strife89> I used Programs and Features to remove Wubi.
[21:00] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, now, the next command is -->  cd /home/ilmod
[21:00] <Strife89> (The equivalent of Add/Remove Progs).
[21:01] <Schuenemann> What package do I need for mkinitrd?
[21:01] <biomass> Strife89: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20do%20I%20manually%20uninstall%20Wubi?
[21:01] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: sorry.. typo
[21:01] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, now, the next command is -->  cd /home/ilmob
[21:01] <cubevanbaby> ohhhhh onetinsoldier ok that's going to get me to the directory .xsession is in... ok!
[21:01] <duffydack> and there is no boot.ini?
[21:01] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier no it's cool I'm starting to understand
[21:01] <duffydack> showing hidden and system files?
[21:01] <Strife89> biomass: That's the ticket! Thanks. :)
[21:01] <fin__> здраствуйте люди незлые
[21:02] <duffydack> i`ll look at that, for future reference
[21:02] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, now... the next command is  -->  mv -v .xession xsession-bad
[21:02] <Strife89> duffydack: No and yes, the former as far as I'm aware.
[21:02] <biomass> Schuenemann: you can use apt-file to find packages
[21:02] <lvr> gave me this: (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nv_drv.so does it mean i'm on nv? thanks
[21:02] <Schuenemann> biomass, I didn't find any related :/
[21:02] <restartme> martynas@martynas-desktop:~$ rm ~/.config/monitors.xml
[21:02] <restartme> rm: cannot remove `/home/martynas/.config/monitors.xml': No such file or directory
[21:02] <lvr> * using nv
[21:02] <duffydack> of course, doh... the startup menu ...
[21:02] <cubevanbaby> ah ha! therefore renaming .xsession ok done!
[21:03] <restartme> wtf
[21:03] <restartme> fuck
[21:03] <FloodBot1> restartme: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:03] <restartme> pissed me off
[21:03] <duffydack> forgot about that
[21:03] <restartme> fucking shit
[21:03] <hischild_pc> !language | restartme
[21:03] <m1chael> i have a sprint broadband card on my laptop... my question is... if i get the sprint broadband card working over PPP in ubuntu... is it possible to share the internet connection through a router?
[21:03] <stompr> apparently i can modprobe <snd_module> irq=<x>
[21:03] <restartme> shu
[21:03] <simon_b> usb-uirt??? someone?
[21:03] <peaces> can anyone tell me why the FN keys on my laptop work after I hibernate it but not when i just boot it up, and how to fix this?
[21:04] <Schuenemann> biomass, it's the last step for my kernel compilation.... sigh
[21:04] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, good. now, to try and help make sure you don't do any damage as root user, let's get you out of your normal user's home directory  -->   cd    ...then simply press Enter
[21:04] <stompr> where are the startup scripts for module loading located?  in slackware it was /ect/rc.d/
[21:04] <stompr> lemme look
[21:04] <hischild_pc> stompr, /etc/modprobe.d/ those?
[21:04] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier ok cool now I'm back into root@ilmob:~#
[21:04] <Strife89> Well, hold up.... I don't see a way to _remove_ Ubuntu....
[21:05] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, next command is...   invoke-rc.d xdm stop
[21:05] <cubevanbaby> oh man that's handy to know *copies and pastes for later*
[21:05] <restartme> theres is no monitors.xml
[21:05] <duffydack> apart from the "file" and editing the boot.. dunno
[21:05] <cubevanbaby> ahhhhh ok! doing the thing we did before
[21:05] <restartme> in .xconfig
[21:05] <restartme> whatt the hell is going on her e
[21:05] <restartme> :/
[21:06] <Diiphantom> bah im trying to bad to get shared folders to show in virtuabox 2.1
[21:06] <pist0l-fish> hi all. I just installed ubuntu 8.10 and my sound is not working. From running lspci I found that my sound card had this device name:  Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02). Can anyone help?
[21:06] <biomass> Schuenemann: did you follow these steps ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[21:06] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier done! :)
[21:06] <duffydack> wubi is ok, but id either install it in virtualbox or install it properly myself.. livecd to test hardware
[21:06]  * cubevanbaby things begin to click
[21:07] <Schuenemann> biomass, no, a different howto. I already built the kernel, just need to create the initrd now
[21:07] <Easr> f
[21:07] <duffydack> oh not still Diiphantom
[21:07] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, for the next command, let me know if there is any problem, which i'm sure you'll do  -->  invoke-rc.d xdm start   ...if you get any complaint, let me know
[21:07] <ToTo__> hi all! how can i delete the list with the last played video in totem?
[21:07] <duffydack> i dunno what you are doing, but i explained what i do , and it works
[21:07] <Diiphantom> lol
[21:07] <D3RGPS31> ToTo__ awkward!
[21:08] <Diiphantom> duffydack, im tried everything!
[21:08] <Strife89> Meh, I'll just try EasyBCD.
[21:08] <shovi> Waoh Wine worked on fireworks cs3
[21:08] <m1chael> i have a sprint broadband card on my laptop... my question is... if i get the sprint broadband card working over PPP in ubuntu... is it possible to share the internet connection through a router?
[21:08] <nbeebo> ok ive been udf ¤#¤ # trying to install ubuntu for the last 10 hours to use my new tv as the ¤/ #¤# screen im gonna try to fix it without clean install. . . . .
[21:08] <guntbert> Schuenemann: maybe this relates to your question: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/how-do-i-get-mkinitrd-598163/     (#3)
[21:09] <Diiphantom> you want to see pictures of my virtualmachine?
[21:09] <function1> say i need a newer version of a lib than what's in the repos, but a bunch of other packages depend upon this lib in the package manager, so i can't just uninstall the older lib package.. what would be the best way to replace the lib with my own newer version, and have all the other packages be happy?
[21:09] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier totally worked! brilliant!!
[21:09] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: w00ooties!
[21:09] <duffydack> if you can see it in network places, i dont know whats wrong
[21:09] <rabidweezle> alright, I just compiled a wolfenstien 3d port (wolf4sdl) in linux, anyone want the binary? you just drop it in your wolfenstien folder and make sure all the wolf files are all lower case.
[21:09] <nbeebo> if ur cd drive is broke = no ubuntu for anyone new
[21:10] <D3RGPS31> Under 8.10 some sites always time out and my bandwidth is throttled :/
[21:10] <Diiphantom> duffydack, me neither
[21:10] <duffydack> cant you right click it?
[21:10] <duffydack> and map
[21:10] <sinbox> ToTo__, prawn?
[21:10] <guntbert> !who | duffydack
[21:10] <rabidweezle> if your cdrom is broke you can probly install with usb
[21:10] <kabny> When I input my USB-booter in Ubuntu it always boots, however I just want some other stuff on it, how do I access that?
[21:10] <restartme> yeah right
[21:10] <restartme> your wiki does'nt help
[21:10] <nbeebo> k noone is answering i guess this isnt any channel to get some sympathy
[21:11] <Schuenemann> guntbert, I guess it was removed... I'll give that yaird a try, then. Thanks
[21:11] <duffydack> goto command prompt Diiphantom
[21:11] <rabidweezle> nbeebo, what was the question?
[21:11] <rabidweezle> I just popped in
[21:11] <askand> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!     What can I do with an error message like that? Any ideas?
[21:11] <duffydack> Diiphantom:  what goes wrong when you use net use
[21:11] <restartme> because isn't any files created in .config like monitors.xml
[21:11] <Diiphantom> ill tell u the msg
[21:11] <restartme> :/
[21:11] <nbeebo> rabidweezle.. thanks... im trying to get my new tv to work with ubuntu
[21:11] <restartme> :'(
[21:11] <rabidweezle> ahh, what video card?
[21:11] <nbeebo> ati pro x1950 i think
[21:12] <restartme> any body ?
[21:12] <rabidweezle> svideo?
[21:12] <zoed> !svideo
[21:12] <nbeebo> hmm... cable? same as to monitor
[21:12] <Ashfire908> Hi, I need help. Every time when I try to change settings for an email account in Evolution, when I closed the settings window, evolution crashes.
[21:12] <kabny> where can I check if my chipset is supported or not(my wifi chipset, i have realtek RTL8187B)?
[21:12] <restartme> whole linuxe's crashes
[21:12] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: now that you have a good .xsession file, make a backup of it. then edit it.... put in your 'feh' command after the  #! /bin/bash (which is at the top of the file) and follow the feh command with an ampersand... like so
[21:13] <restartme> on update
[21:13] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: feh --bg-scale /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/paltanen.jpg &
[21:13] <restartme> full
[21:13] <Ashfire908> Also, how do I import a ssh key into a seahorse.
[21:13] <rabidweezle> nbeebo, ooh, one of those newer tv's, umm, can you pull up the tv's resolution and rates from the website and put them into your xorg.conf?
[21:13] <zoed> kabny: google "realtek RTL8187B ubuntu"
[21:13] <Strife89> duffydack: I think I nailed it with EasyBCD. Fixin' to reboot and test.
[21:13] <AMDMutant> Diiphantom: are you installed virtualbox guest additions?
[21:13] <Diiphantom> duffydack, it says system error 53 has occured" the nerwork path was not found
[21:13] <nbeebo> rabidweezle, okay
[21:13] <Diiphantom> no, i dont think so, which one is that? all i installed was vb 2.1
[21:14] <sinbox> so cubevanbaby now you have oit working: how hard was it to setup xdm?
[21:14] <duffydack> Diiphantom: you shouldnt be able to see in network places then
[21:14] <rabidweezle> nbeebo, if you can get the vertical and horizontal hertz ratings and stuff you plug that into your xorg.conf like you would with any other monitor
[21:14] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: put that command after the #! /bin/bash and before any other command, before the /usr/bin/icewm-session  command or whatever the /usr/bin/session command is named
[21:14] <Diiphantom> AMDMutant, which ones?
[21:14] <KristopherWindso> quick question - what's the best VNC program for ubuntu? i want to controol ubuntu from windows
[21:14] <morph3us> hi.. i need help, how can i get the repo of ubuntu? archive.ubuntu.org? wich is the url ?
[21:14] <bjstick> TightVNC is good
[21:14] <lukasz> Damn webcam is upside down :(
[21:14] <AMDMutant> duffydack: virtualbox guest additions
[21:14] <rabidweezle> o_O
[21:14] <CyberGabber> Diiphantom: : OK, Start your guest, so that its completely running. Then choose 'devices' > 'install guest additions'
[21:15] <zoed> KristopherWindso: just go to System->Preferences->Remote Desktop. Activating it will automatically start vnc server
[21:15] <morph3us> how can i download ndiswrapper?
[21:15] <__MAV> How do I see in console in which directory I am ?
[21:15]  * KristopherWindso tries that
[21:15] <Schuenemann> __MAV, pwd
[21:15] <duffydack> Diiphantom:  ya know,. i never thought about guest additions LOL
[21:15] <__MAV> ok, thank youQ
[21:15] <duffydack> Diiphantom:  I just assumed..
[21:15] <__MAV> !
[21:15] <Diiphantom> lets see now
[21:15] <AMDMutant> CyberGabber: :)
[21:15] <rabidweezle> ndiswrapper is on the cd aswell as apt-get
[21:15] <eblume> How can I tell which version of the ATI drivers I have installed?
[21:16] <nbeebo> rabidweezle,  i cant find name of model, neither on the tv or on the manual
[21:16] <restartme> Whats wrong in this command
[21:16] <restartme> " $ xrandr --addmode S-video 800x600"
[21:16] <restartme>  $ xrandr --addmode S-video 800x600
[21:16] <bjstick> use glxinfo
[21:16] <restartme> bash: $: command not found
[21:16] <nbeebo> rabidweezle,  wait, searched for 'samsun' on google fixed it now
[21:16] <rabidweezle> nbeebo, outch! umm
[21:16] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier all good!
[21:16] <AMDMutant> Diiphantom: help > The
[21:16] <restartme> I just want to set normal resolution and go to sleep
[21:16] <restartme> ..
[21:17] <restartme> it's possible?
[21:17] <restartme> :D
[21:17] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok. great! you did see how to add the 'feh' command, right?
[21:17] <stompr> restartme, tell me which ubuntu you're using
[21:17] <eblume> Does anyone know how to determine which version of the ATI drivers I am using?
[21:17] <rabidweezle> eblume, in /etc/x11/xorg.conf you will see ati/radeon/firegl under the device section
[21:17] <restartme> 8.04
[21:17] <Diiphantom> just restarted it
[21:17] <eblume> Ah, thanks.
[21:17] <hischild_pc> restartme, calm down and don't use the enter button that much.
[21:17] <cubevanbaby> sinbox it'a not that bad I just made a big boo boo editing my .xsession file. now I know not to a)do that again and b)not gamble and make a backup like onetinsoldier said lol
[21:17] <guntbert> restartme: did you actually type the '$' ?
[21:17] <stompr> is it kubuntu, xubuntu, edubuntu or just ubuntu?
[21:17] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier sure did :)
[21:17] <restartme> & GeForece MX 440
[21:17] <Strife89> Got it.
[21:17] <AMDMutant> Diiphantom: help > The VirtualBox Guest Additions > Folder sharing
[21:17] <bjstick> eblume: glxinfo
[21:17] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, cool
[21:17] <restartme> Ubuntu
[21:17] <Org-Mode> Does openoffice have a grammar checker? I hear abiword does but i dont see it
[21:17] <rabidweezle> glxinfo aslso
[21:17] <Diiphantom> lets see if i can see them now
[21:17] <rabidweezle> ^_^
[21:17] <rabidweezle> also*
[21:17] <guntbert> restartme: did you actually type the '$' ?
[21:17] <testerjr> hi room
[21:18] <testerjr> riim
[21:18] <restartme> yeah i did
[21:18] <Ashfire908> Hi, I need help. Every time when I try to change settings for an email account in Evolution, when I closed the settings window, evolution crashes.
[21:18] <eblume> bjstick, that generates a lot of output, none of it clearly labeled "driver version". What field am I looking for?
[21:18] <eblume> rabidweezle, Nothing in xorg.conf has a version number.
[21:18] <stompr> oh ok, thn just click on system on the top
[21:18] <kabny> can I highkight my own text in the chat? using mirc...its really naooying becuase it so flooded here
[21:18] <Diiphantom> NOW it works!
[21:18] <stompr> go to personal settings
[21:18] <testerjr> im from turkey
[21:18] <duffydack> Diiphantom: ive never been able to see thru network places myself.. always had to net use
[21:18] <rabidweezle>  ooh, version
[21:18] <Diiphantom> AMDMutant,  lol thank you all!
[21:18] <guntbert> restartme: then leave it away
[21:18] <rabidweezle> check out glxinfo
[21:18] <restartme> Without
[21:18] <bjstick> eblume: it should be near the top
[21:18] <restartme> ?
[21:18] <AMDMutant> Diiphantom: k
[21:19] <restartme> bash: $: command not found
[21:19] <guntbert> !who  | restartme
[21:19] <IndyGunFreak> kabny: why would you highlight your own chat?
[21:19] <CheesyWeasel> on hardy, fn+f2 displays "power information", the information about my battery. this is great, but is there a way i can tell it to use a different keystroke?
[21:19] <Diiphantom> finally! that was a hasle!
[21:19] <kabny> can I highkight my own text in the chat? using mirc...its really naooying becuase it so flooded here
[21:19] <Schuenemann> can aynone give me a hand with yaird? I want to make the initrd of the kernel I just built
[21:19] <eblume> bjstick, could it be "server glx version string", or perhaps "client glx version string"?
[21:19] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier thanks for the walkthrough i totally understand now what you were asking me to do end to end
[21:19] <kabny> where can I check if my chipset is supported or not(my wifi chipset, i have realtek RTL8187B)?
[21:19] <duffydack> Diiphantom:  least it got you the newest version installed
[21:19]  * rabidweezle eyes CheesyWeasel
[21:19] <restartme> I tryed without $
[21:19] <bjstick> eblume: it might be at OpenGL version string
[21:19] <restartme> And nothing happens
[21:19] <restartme> Em
[21:19] <duffydack> not that ose
[21:19] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: hehe. you're welcome
[21:20] <IndyGunFreak> kabny: general rule of thumb is realtek works, but requires some work to get it going
[21:20] <Diiphantom> dublpaws,  you helped me more than that trust me! plus u learned to not assume :)
[21:20] <guntbert> !who  | restartme
[21:20] <restartme> How to get current display mode?
[21:20] <duffydack> do you need to use usb devices ?
[21:20] <Diiphantom> duffydack, ****
[21:20] <eblume> Does anyone know how to determine which version of the ATI drivers I am using? Perhaps this could be answered if I knew what the package name for ati drivers is called?
[21:20] <KristopherWindso> i'm cross-OS vnc'ing! :D :D :D
[21:20] <restartme> Then i would try to change just resolution
[21:20] <biomass> restartme: what happends if you just type xrandr ?
[21:20] <restartme> in result
[21:20] <restartme> ..
[21:20] <kabny> IndyGunFreak: like?
[21:20] <rabidweezle> eblume, run glxinfo in a terminal
[21:20] <duffydack> oh I see.. remind me to not help in future!
[21:20] <IndyGunFreak> kabny: google?
[21:20] <IndyGunFreak> !realtek | kabny
[21:20] <Diiphantom> duffydack,  you kidding? rofl
[21:21] <eblume> rabidweezle, bjstick asked me to do that, it gives a lot of output. Which field am I looking for?
[21:21] <restartme> because there is LDVS and VGA.. ;> Wthk
[21:21] <rabidweezle> hold on
[21:21] <duffydack> i`d give you your money back...but.....
[21:21] <mrwes> kabny: try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/RealtekRTL8187b
[21:21] <restartme> Nothing happened..
[21:21] <restartme> xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1024x768
[21:21] <Slack_> is their a way to check which version a pcs pci slots are without opening it
[21:21] <restartme> and nothing...
[21:22] <sinbox> cubevanbaby, so did you just follow the intructions on the xdm site @ xorg or did you have another tutorial somewhere (I found those confusing really)
[21:22] <duffydack> Diiphantom: the fact you said you were seeing the shares didnt make me think as basic as guest additions, sorry
[21:22] <rabidweezle> eblume, do a glxinfo | grep version
[21:22] <rabidweezle> eblume, or grep ati/radeon/firegl until it shows up
[21:22] <restartme> So will you help me?
[21:22] <restartme> ;D
[21:22] <restartme> ;/
[21:22] <eblume> rabidweezle, 5 results, none say "ati"
[21:23] <nbeebo_> electric power shut down..
[21:23] <rabidweezle> eblume lemme pm you
[21:23] <eblume> rabidweezle, Sure, thanks!
[21:23] <__MAV> How Do I copy entire file sytem without copying those not-real directories like /dev
[21:23] <guntbert> !who  > restartme
[21:23] <Diiphantom> duffydack, ? whats wrong? im not blaming anyone, it was just a comment, i appreciate your help
[21:23] <Diiphantom> duffydack, thank you and take care
[21:24] <restartme> ?
[21:24] <restartme> wtf LD
[21:24] <restartme> :D
[21:24] <Schuenemann> how can I create a initrd for the kernel I just compiled using yaird?
[21:24] <duffydack> i know,  just saying.
[21:24] <restartme> yeah ..
[21:25] <restartme> .. right
[21:25] <duffydack> __MAV: backup purposes i use clonezilla live cd.
[21:25] <erUSUL> Schuenemann: use mkinitramfs (that's what i use) sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-$version $version
[21:25] <duffydack> drive/partition backups
[21:25] <__MAV> I need to do this from busybox
[21:26] <Schuenemann> erUSUL, how do I find the correct $version value?
[21:26] <nbeebo_> rabidweezle,  what was it we needed again?
[21:26] <eblume> For future reference, the ati fglrx driver is called xorg-video-fglrx. Thanks to rabidweezle and bjstick.
[21:26] <stompr> ok, nothing is working for me
[21:26] <rabidweezle> nbeebo, you need your refresh rates, and resolution
[21:26] <rabidweezle> nbeebo, and vertical and horizontal sync rates
[21:26] <stompr> how do i figure out the options i can send to a module for a modprobe?
[21:27] <kabny> f
[21:27] <nbeebo_> rabidweezle,  alright thanks
[21:27] <stompr> better yet, how can i get the source codes for my moduels?
[21:27] <stompr> better yet, how can i get the source codes for my modules?
[21:27] <duffydack> __MAV: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[21:27] <rabidweezle> nbeebo, before you do that, did you try to "detect displays?"
[21:27] <duffydack> __MAV: it excludes folders like that, etc
[21:28] <__MAV> thank, you duffydack !
[21:28] <__MAV> I am noy just going cp -a
[21:28] <guntbert> stompr: aren't they in the kernelsources?
[21:29] <Schuenemann> erUSUL, I get this error: Cannot find /lib/modules/2.6.24]
[21:29] <__MAV> should I need to back up /var dir ?
[21:29] <Styx993> hello
[21:29] <duffydack> thats why i use clonezilla..
[21:29] <pranesh> ...
[21:29] <__MAV> :)
[21:29] <__MAV> whatever, just copied it
[21:30] <nbeebo_> rabidweezle, nope.. how?
[21:30] <Styx993> is there any reason why linux would need the kde network service to connect to a wireless network?
[21:30] <rabidweezle> nbeebo, lemme pm you
[21:30] <duffydack> too much work with tar and a live system...I`d keep using my trueimage bootcd but it dont like ubuntu
[21:30] <marsudi> hiiii
[21:30] <stompr> i'll look, guntbert
[21:31] <guntbert> Schuenemann: not sure if it helps, but have you seen http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu ?
[21:31] <niadh> I wanna install ubuntu with the netbook remix interface to a SD card not the SSD on an asus eeepc 901, what's the best way to go about it
[21:31] <Schuenemann> okay, I got through that part. I found the value at /lib/modules
[21:32] <Schuenemann> oh my god, it's created
[21:33] <mrwes> remote desktop is kewl
[21:33] <mrwes> how do I get out of full screen mode?
[21:33] <mrwes> heh
[21:33] <niadh> !eeepc
[21:34] <__MAV> woohoo copied everything
[21:34] <__MAV> now we'l; see
[21:34] <gavi> can someone tell me what the restricted driver is?
[21:34] <Styx993> anyone know of a reason linux wouldnt want to connect to a network with iwconfig but would connect with kwifimanager?
[21:35] <__MAV> it is not open-source driver, am I right ?
[21:35] <Slack_> i their a command to see what type of pci slots a computer has
[21:35] <mrwes> how do I get out of full screen mode in remote desktop?
[21:35] <gavi> __MAV, thats what i thought...
[21:35] <gavi> so does that mean ill have better results by installing the nvidia driver?
[21:35] <bingungaja> anyone can help me how to detect my MMC card in my notebook pls
[21:36] <Styx993> ...
[21:36] <Lasivian> Anyone know of a program that will graph directory size?
[21:36] <gavi> results = performance
[21:36] <duffydack> __MAV:  when restoring, im sure you read it..making folders etc
[21:36] <Lasivian> i'm looking for a unix version of this: http://www.jam-software.com/treesize/screenshots.shtml thanks
[21:36] <robertoxxx> ciao a tutti
[21:36] <zoed> mrwes: F8 (search google "ubuntu fullscreen remote desktop")
[21:37] <m1chael> i have a sprint broadband card on my laptop... if i get the sprint broadband card working over PPP in ubuntu... is it possible to share that ppp internet connection through a router?
[21:37] <robertoxxx> !lista
[21:37] <robertoxxx> come dwonload?
[21:37] <duffydack> then again, im assuming this will be restored on a live system and wont need anything extra.
[21:37] <guntbert> !it | robertoxxx
[21:37] <blbrown> I just installed ubuntu on my macbook, but I can't tell how to boot it.  Anyone done this before?
[21:37] <bitsbam>  /server irc.efnet.net
[21:37] <robertoxxx> come si scaricano file?
[21:37] <zoed> !macbook
[21:38] <__MAV> duffydack: ok, I'll try a better backup software when making the real backop
[21:38] <onetinsoldier> Lasivian: there's a nice looking one that's a plugin for Konquerer in KDE 3.5, there is another i saw that does the same thing but is not quite as nice looking
[21:38] <__MAV> *backup
[21:38] <sinbox> duffydack, do you know if clonezilla will backup to an external usb drive?
[21:38] <duffydack> yes
[21:38] <Lasivian> onetinsoldier: thanks
[21:38] <duffydack> sinbox:  yes.
[21:38] <onetinsoldier> Lasivian: the one for KDE 35. is called fileview, iirc.
[21:38] <bingungaja> anyone can help me how to detect my MMC card in my notebook pls
[21:39] <Styx993> anyone know of a reason linux wouldnt want to connect to a network with iwconfig but would connect with kwifimanager?
[21:39] <onetinsoldier> Lasivian: i will do some searching and see what i can find
[21:39] <sinbox> thanks duffydack my ghost with usb support is totally messed up right now I'll go look this up
[21:39] <nbeebo_> im trying to make a "live usb", can anyone guide me trough it?
[21:39] <Lasivian> onetinsoldier: cool
[21:39] <zoed> nbeebo_: the easiest way: start ubuntu -> System->Administration->Create USB startup disk.
[21:40] <duffydack> sinbox: it can backup ntfs/ext3 whatever to a usb external fine..
[21:40] <nbeebo_> zoed, woot, ill try thanks
[21:40] <Rakshak> I have an apache server running successfully, is there a way I could easily setup an IRC bot to make my permanent channel?
[21:40] <sinbox> does it do ntfs as well duffydack ?
[21:40] <Styx993> ...
[21:40] <duffydack> sinbox: i just said it did :)
[21:40] <Styx993> or you can just ignore me...
[21:40] <robertoxxx> help me??
[21:41] <duffydack> ive done a full backup of my winxp c: d: and ubuntu, and restored ok
[21:41] <onetinsoldier> Lasivian: the KDE 3.5 one is called FSview(fsview)
[21:41] <Lasivian> onetinsoldier: thanks
[21:41] <sinbox> D'oh!  been looking at the screen for too long I guess
[21:41] <zoed> !it | robertoxxx
[21:41] <FiremanEd> !eggdrop | Rakshak
[21:41] <Rakshak> FiremanEd: oh thanks.... Let me check that right away
[21:42]  * Rakshak fires up PuTTy to connect to his remote Ubuntu box
[21:42] <nbeebo_> zoed, if this work ive been trying to install fresh install of ubuntu for 10 hours for nothing..
[21:42] <Try_Hard_Go_Pro> hey guys why i can't have sound on more than 1 app simultaneously
[21:42] <sinbox> no idea Styx993 but probably something silly in the config of the one that does not work
[21:42] <Styx993> k
[21:42] <Styx993> hmm
[21:42] <CheesyWeasel> on hardy, fn+f2 displays "power information", the information about my battery. this is great, but is there a way i can tell it to use a different keystroke?
[21:42] <orio> when try compile un simple program with gcc, the shell return this error:
[21:43] <zoed> nbeebo_: you can also boot the live cd and use the "Create USB startup disk" from the live cd. But: That app is only available in 8.10, so don't try to use 8.04
[21:43] <orio> ./teste.c: line 3: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[21:43] <orio> ./teste.c: line 3: ` int main()'
[21:43] <onetinsoldier> Lasivian: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[21:43] <zoed> orio: !pastebin | your program
[21:43] <orio> ok
[21:43] <zoed> !pastebin
[21:43] <Lasivian> onetinsoldier: 8.10
[21:44] <donalddoyle> hello
[21:44] <onetinsoldier> Lasivian: check out this screenshot and tell me what you think. --> http://www.linux.com/var/uploads/Image/articles/154908-1.png
[21:44] <KillerOrca> Hi, I want to move my /home onto a new HDD but I have no idea where to begin harware or software wise, anyone done this before?
[21:44] <nbeebo_> zoed, if its boot as in start-up boot then i cant, or i would have ubunt 8.10 on my computer 20 hours ago
[21:44] <donalddoyle> i need help
[21:44] <Diiphantom> someone knows how to use webmin?
[21:44] <Lasivian> onetinsoldier: yeah, that would work
[21:44] <niadh> can anyone help me with getting ubuntu on the eeepc?
[21:44] <zoed> nbeebo: Do you have ubuntu 8.10 installed?
[21:44] <donalddoyle> yes
[21:44] <onetinsoldier> Lasivian: yeah, nice eh. too bad 8.10 doesn't have KDE 3.5 :-(
[21:44] <peteee> finnish ubuntu channel name?
[21:44] <zoed> !fi
[21:45] <Lasivian> yeah
[21:45] <rabidweezle> what's that like x setup command to manually stick in your refresh rate, horizontal and vertical sync and resolution for crazy monitors?
[21:45] <peteee> okay
[21:45] <onetinsoldier> Lasivian: i will try to find the other one i saw, i think it's for gnome
[21:45] <Lasivian> onetinsoldier: i'm running on an 8gb SSD netbook, so I need to cut space :/
[21:45] <onetinsoldier> Lasivian: roger
[21:45] <sinbox> niadh, /join #ubuntu-eeepc
[21:45] <zoed> orio: you'll have to tell us the link...
[21:45] <bingungaja> Anyone know how to detect MMC - Texas Instruments 5-in-1 Multimedia Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS PRO/xD) in ubuntu 8.10 ? Help pls
[21:46] <Rakshak> FiremanEd: I installed Eggdrop by commandline. Now how do I tell it to create a channel?
[21:46] <donalddoyle> hellp
[21:46] <duffydack> KillerOrca: tar cvpzf /media/somewhere/backup.tgz /home/whatever
[21:46] <function1> is there some way to find out how a package in the repos was prepared, like how ./configure was run for instance?
[21:46] <Lasivian> onetinsoldier: rather that's why i'm after it, I can afford to give it space :)
[21:46] <niadh> sinbox: thank you!
[21:46] <orio> ye hive paste now
[21:46] <zoed> function1: apt-get source package
[21:46] <donalddoyle> HELLO
[21:46] <peteee> why i can`t press dvd-menu buttons? i try for windows media player and ubuntu kaffeine.,where is the proplem?
[21:46] <donalddoyle> I NEED HELP
[21:46] <Lasivian> hahahaha
[21:46] <Lasivian> onetinsoldier: i'm an idiot
[21:46] <zoed> !ask | donalddoyle
[21:46] <onetinsoldier> Lasivian: after looking at that sreenshot, i am wondering now if it isn't from KDE 4.0.x ...i think it is!
[21:46] <jpds> donalddoyle: but remove the caps. :)
[21:47] <sinbox> Lasivian, have you considered a window manager rather than a full desktop?
[21:47] <KillerOrca> duffydack, I am out of space on my current HDD though
[21:47] <Lasivian> onetinsoldier: Disk Usage Analyzer does a graphical layout
[21:47] <ASrock> how can i see a list of all my hard drives and the partitions on them?
[21:47] <Slart> jonaskoelker: just ask your question, as you've been told
[21:47] <Slart> oops.. sorry jonaskoelker
[21:47] <donalddoyle> ok
[21:47] <Lasivian> sinbox: I do not know the difference frankly
[21:47] <CheesyWeasel> on hardy, fn+f2 displays "power information", the information about my battery. this is great, but is there a way i can tell it to use a different keystroke?
[21:47] <peteee>  why i can`t press dvd-menu buttons? i try for windows media player and ubuntu kaffeine.,where is the proplem?
[21:47] <duffydack> KillerOrca:  thats what the /media/somewhere is for
[21:47] <onetinsoldier> Lasivian: ok, roger that. how do you get the graphical?
[21:47] <Slart> donalddoyle: just ask your question and stop screaming..
[21:47] <donalddoyle> i need help connecting to the internet through wifi on my acer aspire one
[21:48] <duffydack> "/media" as in external hd
[21:48] <peteee>  why i can`t press dvd-menu buttons? i try for windows media player and ubuntu kaffeine.,where is the proplem?
[21:48] <Lasivian> onetinsoldier: it comes up with a graph, 8.10 accessories/disk usage analyzer
[21:48] <zoed> peteee: can you try totem? it worked for me.
[21:48] <sinbox> Lasivian, well, it uses a lot less ressources, but as far as space goes I'm not sure but |I would have thought so too
[21:48] <Tommck> peteee: ask the question 5 or 6 more times... then, maybe we'll respond
[21:48] <biomass> ASrock: fdisk -l
[21:48] <ra> So I had to run earlier, but I am having this problem with PCSX in the repos.  It isn't working properly.
[21:48] <duffydack> is your home a seperate partition?
[21:48] <CheesyWeasel> how do i change what keystroke displays my battery information?
[21:48] <CyberGabber> ASrock: df -H
[21:48] <ASrock> biomass: i tried that and it told me it couldnt access any of the disks
[21:48] <donalddoyle> i cant connect to the internet through wifi
[21:49] <Lasivian> sinbox: I have 1.6ghz and 1.5gb ram, my drive space is just limited. X runs fine
[21:49] <onetinsoldier> Lasivian: cool. you might want to have a look at the following packages --> system-cleaner, system-cleaner-gtk
[21:49] <L0neWolf> Anyone willing to help a silly person who installed GRUB to a software BIOS based RAID setup?
[21:49] <ra> It seems the ISO mounter doesn't work, and I can not fully configure PCSX, which makes the games impossible to run
[21:49] <KillerOrca> duffydack, well I am out of external HDDs, the only one I have is an internal one, but I don't know how to add it to my install, no home isn't in its own partition
[21:49] <biomass> ASrock: you need to do it with sudo and supply the disk device
[21:49] <Rakshak> How do I create an Eggdrop configuration file? --help is not that informative :(
[21:49] <Lasivian> onetinsoldier: very nice, thank you
[21:49] <donalddoyle> i cant connect to the internet through wifi
[21:49] <donalddoyle> i cant connect to the internet through wifi
[21:49] <sinbox> ok Lasivian (I'm jealous now :) )
[21:49] <donalddoyle> i cant connect to the internet through wifi
[21:49] <FloodBot1> donalddoyle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:49] <Slart> donalddoyle: ok, you've asked your question.. if someone knows the answer they might  tell you.. if not you'll have to wait at least 5 minutes before you repeat your question.. politely
[21:49] <onetinsoldier> Lasivian: you're welcome :-)
[21:50] <Slart> donalddoyle: acting like a spoiled 4-year old won't get you any help at all.. you'll just get kicked out of here
[21:50] <ASrock> aah thank you
[21:50] <kurrata> hi, i merged my nfts/ext3(same hard drive) partition with gparted but now when i am loged gparted shows that i have 1 partition with full size but ubuntu thinks in still old size. any idea how to fix this?
[21:50] <biomass> ASrock: it wouldn't be good if any user could use fdisk =)
[21:50] <dstar> Hey, does  emacs22-gtk not support truetype fonts? I get 'no fonts match' no matter what font I select....
[21:51] <donalddoyle> i wasnt acting like a 4 year old i was acting like a guy that has been trying to solve his own problem for 2 days straight without sleep
[21:51] <zoed> donalddoyle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne see the section "Wireless module"
[21:51] <Slart> kurrata: you can do that?? (I mean merging ntfs and ext3) what file system is it using now? are all the files still there?
[21:51] <DasEi> kurrsta: paste output from : sudo fdisk -l
[21:51] <Nova1> I have an old laptop and I want to get a wireless card for it, and I want to know what is a good wireless card that'll work well with Ubuntu.
[21:51] <sinbox> on the offchance, does anyone here use either: ices0.4 ,  liveice-sn04  or icegenerator-0.5.5-pre2 ?
[21:51] <bingungaja> Anyone know how to detect MMC - Texas Instruments 5-in-1 Multimedia Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS PRO/xD) in ubuntu 8.10 ? Help pls
[21:51] <L0neWolf> Anyone willing to help a silly person who installed GRUB to a software BIOS based RAID setup that Ubuntu can't see and broke the system?
[21:52] <ra> I just ran it in the terminal and it indicates some files may be missing
[21:52] <donalddoyle> can we do a private chat or somthing i cant keep up
[21:52] <R1_> Hi, is there a terminal command that lists the processes currently running in gnome and a command to exit a certain process running?
[21:52] <ra> Which is odd as I installed from the repos
[21:52] <DasEi> bingungaja: does lspci find it ?
[21:52] <mikegriffin> what is the official correct way to modify init script runlevel defaults?
[21:52] <zoed> donalddoyle: just read my link:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne see the section "Wireless module"
[21:52] <donalddoyle> ok
[21:52] <Nova1> What is a good wireless card for Ubuntu?
[21:52] <KillerOrca> R1_, top, then kill
[21:52] <kurrata> Slack: yap evrything works and i see all ext3 files just nfts part has disapeard
[21:53] <mikegriffin> Nova1: lucent, orinocco, intel
[21:53] <bingungaja> DasEi: yup
[21:53] <Nova1> ok
[21:53] <Zzeiss> is there a decent disk test program under Ubuntu?  To test a disk with no data on it?
[21:53] <mikegriffin> Nova1: lots work but those work anywhere any os
[21:53] <bingungaja> DasEi: 06:09.2 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments 5-in-1 Multimedia Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS PRO/xD)
[21:53] <DasEi> bingungaja: so you need the correct driver for it, prbly scsi or usb
[21:53] <mikegriffin> Zzeiss: bonnie++ ?
[21:53] <onetinsoldier> mikegriffin: hmmm, you might want to take a look at the man page for... update-rc.d
[21:53] <KillerOrca> I guess a better question would be can I move /home to a new HDD if /home isn't in it's own partition?
[21:54] <donalddoyle> i8 am completley new to this and i have no clue wat to do at the link
[21:54] <sinbox> Zzeiss, or get the Hiren boot CD lots of useful stuff on there
[21:54] <bingungaja> DasEi: i'm using benq notebook card reader
[21:54] <mikegriffin> KillerOrca: sure you can, cp can do lots of things
[21:54] <mikegriffin> KillerOrca: but I would use rsync -av --stats --progress
[21:54] <Slart> kurrata: wow.. didn't know you could do that.. but ubuntu still see the old disk size?
[21:54] <zoed> donalddoyle: are you running ubuntu at the moment?
[21:54] <bingungaja> DasEi: if i was using usb card reader, no issue for the MMC card
[21:54] <KillerOrca> mikegriffin, ok, but how do I set up my system so I can boot with 2 HDDs?
[21:54] <donalddoyle> yes i am
[21:55] <Zzeiss> bonnie, eh.  OK.  Lemme look into that.
[21:55] <mikegriffin> KillerOrca: you would need to plug in the second one
[21:55] <kurrata> Slart yea, but gparted shows the new size
[21:55] <zoed> donalddoyle: ok. So open a terminal Applications->Acc.->Terminal
[21:55] <mikegriffin> Zzeiss: no bonnie++
[21:55] <L0neWolf> Anyone willing to help a silly person who installed GRUB to a software BIOS based RAID setup that Ubuntu can't see and broke the system?  It was supposed to install to HD0 (RAID disk) but must not have as when I boot it says "Error 15: File not found"
[21:55] <kaiser10123> what gui would be best for converting video to make to a dvd that will get most use from my quad core
[21:55] <donalddoyle> ok i opendd a termianl
[21:55] <mikegriffin> OS error code  15:  Block device required
[21:55] <biomass> R1_: ps is an alternative to running top too
[21:55] <usser> kaiser10123, try devede
[21:55] <zoed> donalddoyle: now run the first command given in the link: "wget http://snapshots.madwifi-project.org/madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6-current.tar.gz". Just enter the text (use right-click paste) and press enter
[21:56] <eth01> htop is nice
[21:56] <KillerOrca> mikegriffin, but does master/slave positions matter and do I need to format the 2nd HDD and if so to what and how?
[21:56] <NotSure> what application do I use to open the game Tremulous?
[21:56] <Slart> L0neWolf: do you have any idea on how to fix it?
[21:56] <kaiser10123> usser: im using devede wondered if there was another option that may be better
[21:56] <NotSure> or is there a game chat channel?
[21:56] <Slart> NotSure: you just run the game binary
[21:56] <mikegriffin> KillerOrca: i assume you mean ide, yes it should be slave, linux will find it if it can still boot, check into gparted
[21:56] <NotSure> dont know how
[21:56] <donalddoyle> zoed
[21:56] <donalddoyle> can we do a private chat or sumthing
[21:56] <Slart> NotSure: you've installed it, right?
[21:57] <biomass> NotSure: tremoulous should be completely standalone afaik, its built on quake3
[21:57] <donalddoyle> i cant read that fast
[21:57] <DasEi> bingungaja: I#am no too familiar with that, either hal has to recognize it properly or you can add the modules - as you found their names - manunal to /etc/modules
[21:57] <kaiser10123> usser: i see only 1 core at 100% with conky could i get it to use more of the others to to get it done faster
[21:57] <NotSure> no... I downloaded it and doubleclicked  it is asking what app to open with
[21:57] <KillerOrca> donalddoyle, what are you using to IRC?
[21:57] <L0neWolf> Slart: I'm not sure at all really.  it must've installed GRUB to some degree for it to start and give that error message but I can't repair it using a LiveCD as it doesn't recognise the array
[21:57] <Slart> NotSure: oh.. you downloaded some kind of installer?
[21:57] <donalddoyle> i have no clu ei am totaly new to this
[21:58] <mikegriffin> kaiser10123: ubuntustudio says PiTiVi, Kino, Cinepaint are included for video creation.   perhaps one helps?
[21:58] <KillerOrca> donalddoyle, what is the program window's name?
[21:58] <Slart> L0neWolf: hmm.. fakeraid is tricky.. did you create the fakeraid using ubuntu?
[21:58] <meekatron> i have just install and configured bind.. where is the file where it would store all the dns lookup information
[21:58] <donalddoyle> i have no clue
[21:58] <NotSure> yes    tremulous-1`.1.0-installer.x86.run'
[21:58] <KillerOrca> donalddoyle, the name at the top, for instance mine is HydraIRC
[21:58] <usser> kaiser10123, hm. im not sure. i'd guess that encoding doesnt really parallel all that easily
[21:58] <mikegriffin> onetinsoldier: thanks thats good enough, better than telling someone how to symlink
[21:58] <Slart> L0neWolf: or is it some kind of left over from windows?
[21:58] <L0neWolf> Slart: no, it was created from BIOS config and then Vista is installed on it.  I ran Ubuntu installer, didn't see any errors, rebooted and got the error.  Now I can't get to either OS
[21:58] <NotSure> so.....  that wasn't the game?
[21:59] <sili_> hello room
[21:59] <Slart> NotSure: well.. it's an installer.. like a windows install file for a game
[21:59] <stompr> hello sili
[21:59] <usser> kaiser10123, i see in advanced options a tick for use optimizations for multi-core cpus
[21:59] <Slart> NotSure: ok, the first thing you need to do it make the file executable... you've used windows before?
[21:59] <usser> kaiser10123, does that do anything for you?
[22:00] <sili_> i would like to play 3gp video with sound on my ubuntu 8.10 ,what can i do  for that?
[22:00] <sinan> i have a problem with Vino, it doesn't auto start, i have to manually start it. Any idea how to solve this?
[22:00] <KillerOrca> sinan, put it in the startup program list?
[22:00] <stompr> well, i think you'll need the gstreamer codec pack
[22:00] <Coggz> need a bit of help with wine, v 1.0.1, trying to run an exe and if i run it from nautilus it works fine, but if i type: wine .../file.exe in the terminal. the loading screen pops up and tells me there is an error with the stringtable at line 0. It's not the file, as it is fine from nautilus lancher, but cannot be executed manually (or from the menu shortcut i made)
[22:00] <sinan> KillerOrca: where would i find that?
[22:00] <Slart> L0neWolf: hmm I'm not really sure what to do with that.. I suppose there are stuff on the windows partition you want to keep?
[22:01] <onetinsoldier> mikegriffin: ok, cool
[22:01] <NotSure> yes I have...  but how to make executabe?
[22:01] <onetinsoldier> mikegriffin: you're welcome
[22:01] <usser> sili_, what player are u using?
[22:01] <KillerOrca> sinan, ummm depending on the menu it will be a variety of places, try looking under "session"
[22:01] <stompr> oh yeah, i forgot to ask
[22:01] <L0neWolf> Slart: well it's a full install on 2x250Gb drives as a striped set.
[22:01] <Slart> NotSure: ok, in windows all you have to do is to change the file ending to .exe to make it executable.. linux works a little different
[22:01] <NotSure> ok...
[22:02] <sili_> mplayer
[22:02] <usser> Coggz, sometimes it helps running the file from within the same directory
[22:02] <sinan> KillerOrca: i am accessing the PC over SSH
[22:02] <orio> zoed srry this is the link:
[22:02] <orio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/93916/
[22:02] <usser> Coggz, cd program ; wine filename.exe
[22:02] <L0neWolf> Slart: I know, striped is pointless and I was going to get around to destroying it eventually.  this may have forced my hand though and I haven't backed up Steam
[22:02] <usser> sili_, try vlc\
[22:02] <stompr> sili_, you can go to the mplayer website to get their codec pack
[22:02] <DasEi> bingungaja: you can try (it's a post from feisty) : sudo modprobe tifm_7xx1, sudo modprobe tifm_core ,sudo modprobe tifm_sd
[22:02] <Slart> NotSure: there is a terminal command called chmod that can do this.. so open a terminal and type chmod a+x tremulous-1<rest of filename here>
[22:02] <KillerOrca> sinan, a bit trickier, let me look for a second
[22:02] <R1_> I have a circular blue handicap logo on my panel right now. I activated it by accident by opening "on screen keyboard", when i click on this handicap logo it shows "universal access preferences" and does not give me the option to remove it. Is there anyway to kill it without restarting ? It stays there even when i don't use the onscreen keyboard anymore
[22:03] <gavi> what distro is 8.10 called
[22:03] <sili_> thaks for help i will do just that
[22:03] <sinan> KillerOrca: thanks :)
[22:03] <gavi> gutsy?
[22:03] <zoed> orio: how did you compile te program? it looks like you tried to excecute it as bash?
[22:03] <L0neWolf> gavi: intrepid ibex
[22:03] <DasEi> bingungaja: if these are the correct drivers, it should work afterwards
[22:03] <Lasivian> onetinsoldier: this might be a stupid question but how do I start system-cleaner-gtk?
[22:03] <Slart> L0neWolf: hmm.. I've got this feeling that restoring the windows install and then rescuing what needs to be rescued might be the easiest way
[22:03] <R1_> gavi, intrepid
[22:03] <CheesyWeasel> on hardy, fn+f2 displays "power information", the information about my battery. this is great, but is there a way i can tell it to use a different keystroke?
[22:03] <gavi> thanks
[22:03] <orio>      i try with: gcc teste.c -o teste
[22:03] <Slart> NotSure: don't forget, linux is case sensitive.. ie Tremulous isn't the same as tremulous
[22:04] <NotSure> chmod: cannot access `tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run': No such file or directory
[22:04] <NotSure> harry@harry-desktop:~$
[22:04] <onetinsoldier> Lasivian: i've never installed or used it. i just knew about it... but have you tried on the command line?
[22:04] <Slart> NotSure: ok.. where did you save the file?
[22:04] <Coggz> usser: that has done the trick, but as for menu command, should i make a shell script to launch it? or what?
[22:04] <L0neWolf> Slart: I tried booting using the Windows install DVD to do a startup repair but it says it found no errors.  I set the RAID as the active partition, rebooted and got the GRUB problem again.
[22:04] <CheesyWeasel> ugh. nobody?
[22:04] <usser> Coggz, thats what i usually do, make a shell script that cds to the directory and runs wine
[22:04] <NotSure> desktop
[22:04] <R1_> I have a circular blue handicap logo on my panel right now. I activated it by accident by opening "on screen keyboard", when i click on this handicap logo it shows "universal access preferences" and does not give me the option to remove it. Is there anyway to kill it without restarting ? It stays there even when i don't use the onscreen keyboard anymore
[22:04] <Lasivian> onetinsoldier: not sure what to even
[22:05] <onetinsoldier> Lasivian: if your having trouble finding the command that starts it, try this to find it  --> dpkg -L system-cleaner-gtk | grep bin
[22:05] <Lasivian> "man" for
[22:05] <Lasivian> ahh, thanks
[22:05] <Coggz> usser: that miht be better, as i can tell it to disable compiz too,
[22:05] <Slart> NotSure: ok.. then you first have to run "cd Desktop" before you can run the chmod command.. note the capital D
[22:05] <stompr> whats the matter CheesyWeasel?
[22:05] <orio> so  im try with other program Anjuta the error is same.
[22:05] <onetinsoldier> Lasivian: you're welcome
[22:05] <gavi> is 8.04 also intrepid?
[22:05] <L0neWolf> gavi: 8.04 is hardy heron
[22:05] <Coggz> usser: can i make a script that executes when the app closes? ass in when the command terminates, it does this and that
[22:06] <Slart> L0neWolf: hmm.. perhaps there is a windows channel that can help you restoring your windows install? it's been a couple of years since I did that kind of stuff
[22:06] <usser> Coggz, not sure what u mean?
[22:06] <gavi> L0neWolf, thanks
[22:06] <DasEi> gavi: 8.04 = hardy heron, 8.10 = ibex-intrepid
[22:06] <cmv583> can anyone explain how to fix avant window nav.
[22:06] <usser> Coggz, which app?
[22:06] <soreau> cmv583: I didn't know it was broken
[22:06] <kg5uc> Is anyone here from the Ubuntu Documentation team that might join me on Ubuntu-doc for consultation?
[22:06] <DasEi> bingungaja: do these drivers work ?
[22:06] <CheesyWeasel> stompr: i'm trying to change a keystroke shortcut for displaying my power information. when i press fn+f2. it displays how much battery life i have left. but fn+f2 is also my mute key and whenever i press it, i have to go up there and physically exit out of the little bubble.
[22:06] <ra> So I think some of my PCSX config files are missing.  I tried reinstalling, but no luck
[22:06] <patb> hey
[22:06] <zoed> orio: with me, "gcc test.c -o filenameofoutputfile" works fine.
[22:07] <unop_> Coggz,  command1 &&  command2
[22:07] <cmv583> soreau: won't load for me. tried remove and re-install but nothin
[22:07] <NotSure>  didnt do anything
[22:07] <Coggz> usser: it is a game, it doesn't like compiz fuzion, so i manually turn it off. in a launcher script, i can disable compiz before launching, but is there  a way of executing a script once the command ends?
[22:07] <KillerOrca> sinan, okay the way to find the path to an application is "which *application" in a terminal, now to find what file to add the application path to
[22:07] <patb> is there any way i can check my current sources to what i have instaled
[22:07] <L0neWolf> Slart: I had a sort of idea but don't know if there's a way to do it.  it must've installed GRUB at least partially somewhere but I can't locate it.  is there a way I can install to a 3rd HD to get Ubuntu running?
[22:07] <Slart> NotSure: it won't print anything if it's succesful
[22:07] <patb> i think i set up compromised sources ubuntu 8
[22:07] <orio> hooo,, ? i dont now wath is the problem...
[22:07] <ra> PCSX will still not allow me to configure the graphics, or run an iso
[22:07] <NotSure> ok...  whats next?
[22:07] <soreau> cmv583: Do you get any interesting output when running it from a terminal? Are you using a compositing WM?
[22:07] <usser> Coggz, oh u mean once you close the game you want compiz to be turned on?
[22:07] <onetinsoldier> patb: you just wabt to know the name of all the packages you have installed?
[22:07] <Schuenemann> !alsa
[22:07] <cmv583> soreau:  never tried in terminal.
[22:07] <Coggz> usser: ya, that kind of thing
[22:08] <usser> Coggz, sure just a line that enables compiz after your wine call
[22:08] <patb> i updated the packages from the compromised sources
[22:08] <Coggz> oh, that would do it?
[22:08] <Slart> NotSure: ok, now, in the same terminal type this "./tremulous-blablabla" of course change the blablabla according to teh filename of the file
[22:08] <Coggz> simple!
[22:08] <Coggz> usser: thanks
[22:08] <Slart> NotSure: that should start the file
[22:08] <patb> is there any way to check from online sources to the packages i have installed
[22:08] <Schuenemann> what package do I need for alsaconf?
[22:08] <usser> Coggz, the way shells work is they dont return automatically until the command you gave stops, so once wine stops the shell script will continue executing
[22:08] <orio> but tanks zoed..
[22:08] <cmv583> soreau: don't know how
[22:08] <Slart> !find alsaconf
[22:08] <orio> for try help me..
[22:09] <Slart> vim-runtime?
[22:09] <biomass> patb: what do you mean ?
[22:09] <patb> i mean my system is bugged
[22:09] <patb> someone was in
[22:09] <unop_> Schuenemann, alsaconf no longer exists on ubuntu
[22:09] <Coggz> usser: aha, that will be useful for my other games which need compiz disabled
[22:09] <patb> now it's just to find it
[22:09] <onetinsoldier> biomass: he probably enabled 'proposed updates'
[22:09] <unop_> Slart, that would be  /usr/share/vim/vim71/syntax/alsaconf.vim
[22:09] <Slart> Schuenemann: alsaconf might not be used anymore.. not really sure.. what are you trying to do?
[22:09] <KillerOrca> sinan, so far I have found a link to autostart only for xfce via the terminal :(, hopefully it helps http://tillamookrage.blogspot.com/2007/12/autostart-programs-in-xfce-hardcore-way.html
[22:09] <soreau> cmv583: 1) open a terminal 2) Type avant- 3) press tab twice 4) hit enter
[22:09] <gavi> folks, if i install the nvidia driver rather than the restricted driver will i expirence better performance?
[22:09] <patb> proposed updates bad?
[22:09] <Schuenemann> Slart, unop_I compiled a kernel myself and then I have no sound...
[22:10] <Slart> unop_: ah.. yes.. that would explain it =)
[22:10] <meoblast001> why cant my programs make sound if flash started before they did?
[22:10] <biomass> patb: someone havcked your machine and you want to find out which files changed ?
[22:10] <patb> yes
[22:10] <cmv583> soreau: Error: Screen isn't composited. Please run compiz (-fusion) or another compositing manager.
[22:10] <Slart> meoblast001: since flash is using the soundcard (you're using onboard sound, right?) you can use pulseaudio to fix this if you want
[22:10] <CheesyWeasel> on hardy, fn+f2 displays "power information", the information about my battery. this is great, but is there a way i can tell it to use a different keystroke?
[22:10] <soreau> cmv583: Do you remember the first thing I asked you?
[22:11] <__MAV> How can I asily transfer bif data file between 2 ubuntu machines
[22:11] <meoblast001> Slart: actually... this never happened until i got 8.04..... how do i fix it?
[22:11] <Slart> NotSure: did it work?
[22:11] <cmv583> soreau: compiz should be running on startup
[22:11] <__MAV> *big data fiie
[22:11] <meoblast001> Slart: its annoyed me so much
[22:11] <cmv583> soreau:  no
[22:11] <rockyrock> please help me here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1023184
[22:11] <DasEi> !nfs | __MAV
[22:11] <patb> i just want to know how they got in
[22:11] <usser> Coggz, make sure your compiz enable part is put in the background and detached from terminal otherwise your script will never terminate
[22:11] <Slart> meoblast001: are you using pulseaudio ? or plain alsa?
[22:11] <__MAV> 1 is running livecd and oher is running ubuntu from harddrive
[22:11] <soreau> cmv583: Just because it should be doesn't mean it is. What happens when you set Sys>Prefs>Appearance>Visual Effects to Extra?
[22:11] <patb> see if i can find logs
[22:11] <biomass> patb: I would assume that is possible but I don't know the right apt/dpkg commands to do it
[22:11] <Schuenemann> Slart, is that fixable?
[22:11] <meoblast001> Slart: where would i go to find out
[22:12] <Coggz> usser: hmm, how would i do that?
[22:12] <usser> Coggz, and overtime as u launch games you will be left with lots of bash processing sitting in the background doing nothing
[22:12] <NotSure> .tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run???
[22:12] <usser> Coggz, nohup compiz &
[22:12] <usser> Coggz, will run compiz in the background
[22:12] <NotSure> ./tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run???
[22:12] <Slart> Schuenemann: I have no idea.. depends on what you did to the kernel, what kind of soundcard etc etc.. does your sound work with the normal kernel?
[22:12] <usser> Coggz, that should do it
[22:12] <Schuenemann> Slart, yeah
[22:12] <MAINFRAME_LINDEB> why is xorg using all of my cpu useage?
[22:12] <Slart> NotSure: ./tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run
[22:13] <Schuenemann> Slart, don't I have to modprobe the driver?
[22:13] <Lasivian> is there any GUI program that will show package dependencies in a tree view?
[22:13] <NotSure> yea it is starting
[22:13] <cmv583> soreau: says they can't be enabled? never had this happen.
[22:13] <starcannon> Lasivian Synaptic does that
[22:13] <Slart> Schuenemann: I'm not entirely sure what one have to do when using a self-compiled kernel.. sorry
[22:13] <CyberGabber> CheesyWeasel: In Gnome yu can adde the 'Battery Charge Monitor' -panel
[22:13] <Slart> meoblast001: system, preferences, sound
[22:14] <kaiser10123> would using devede to encode to make dvd be slower if destination is on my windows partition?
[22:14] <Lasivian> starcannon: thanks
[22:14] <usser> Coggz, generally the last line in your script has to return for the shell to exit properly
[22:14] <Coggz> usser: ok, that is great, now if i wanted to pass a value, such as the game executable (for linux binaries) to the script as an option, how would i do that. Obviously an if/else constrruct to check, but how would i grab the argument?
[22:14] <meoblast001> Slart: ALSA
[22:14] <Slart> meoblast001: you can change the pull-down thingies to alsa, pulseaudio and possibly a  couple of other things too
[22:14] <NotSure> No write permission to /usr/local/games
[22:14] <meoblast001> Slart: should i change that
[22:14] <Slart> meoblast001: ok, set it to use pulseaudio instead
[22:14] <soreau> cmv583: If you want to use compiz-fusion, go to #compiz-fusion to get further assistance. Otherwise, you can enable compositing for metacity, but it will not provide any effects like compiz does
[22:14] <starcannon> Lasivian in synaptic just search for the package your interested in, then click on properties, then click on the dependencies tab
[22:14] <starcannon> bada bing :)
[22:15] <usser> Coggz, $1 is a special variable in bash it holds the first argument
[22:15] <meoblast001> Slart: now i know its not gonna be that easy... what do i do to apply that
[22:15] <usser> Coggz, $2 $3 etc for any additional arguments
[22:15] <NotSure> slart  No write permission to /usr/local/games
[22:15] <Slart> meoblast001: no, it probably won't work right away.. there are some other things to do too
[22:15] <meoblast001> ok
[22:15] <meoblast001> like?
[22:16] <Coggz> usser: right, thats great,
[22:16] <Slart> NotSure: ok.. try running it again.. but this time put a sudo before everything else.. so "sudo ./tremulous-1.1.0..."
[22:16] <zigzags> if my laptop has bluetooth can i use it with my phone to transfer files to my phone, like music
[22:16] <usser> Coggz, also $@ holds all arguments
[22:16] <biomass> patb: maybe  'debsums'
[22:16] <starcannon> NotSure you have to run the installer for your games super user; sudo ./some_installer.bin
[22:16] <Slart> meoblast001: you changed them all to pulseaudio?
[22:16] <Schuenemann> Slart, you know how can I find my driver name, then?
[22:16] <Org-Mode> is virtualbox.org down for anyone else?
[22:16] <NotSure> cant get back to the terminal screen... the game screen is blue with the no write per window
[22:16] <meoblast001> Slart: no.. just the one that said ALSA
[22:16] <Slart> Schuenemann: not really.. I've never compiled a kernel of my own.. ask the channel
[22:17] <Coggz> Org-Mode: not loading for me
[22:17] <Slart> meoblast001: well.. yes.. there's one you can't change..
[22:17] <meoblast001> Slart: sound capture.. i'll cahnge them all
[22:17] <starcannon> Org-Mode yeah its timing out for me
[22:17] <usser> zigzags, if your phone is not crippled sure
[22:17] <mikkel> have ubuntu a reset if you have done someting wrong in instalations
[22:17] <patb> hanx
[22:17] <patb> thanx
[22:17] <Slart> meoblast001: then press ok and try restarting firefox
[22:17] <Org-Mode> ok ty
[22:17] <usser> zigzags, locked down by your company etc
[22:17] <meoblast001> Slart: i use epiphany cuz this computer is too slow for firefox =P
[22:18] <mikkel> ok i vill try thanks
[22:18] <zigzags> usser: rea my mind lol.  how d i check that setting? its a brand new samsung phone
[22:18] <Org-Mode> virtualbox's site has been down for at least 30 mins :(
[22:18] <Slart> meoblast001: ok, restart epiphany then =)
[22:18] <meoblast001> Slart: hmm wont start... time to try the terminal
[22:18] <usser> zigzags, the only way to check is to actually try to transfer something, from another if u're unsure if your computer's bluetooth works
[22:19] <usser> zigzags, *from another phone sorry
[22:19] <starcannon> Org-Mode generally when a site is down I wait about 5 hours and try again, not a great answer, but sadly your stuck till they sort out their problem
[22:19] <onetinsoldier> Lasivian: i found the nicer looking kde util that's installable in 8.10. it's called 'kdirstat'  -->  sudo apt-get install kdirstart   ... just to let you know
[22:19] <NotSure> slart Do you want to install symbolic links to a directory in your path??
[22:19] <meoblast001> Slart: guess i have to use firefox =(
[22:19] <Slart> NotSure: sure.
[22:19] <Slart> meoblast001: epiphany won't start??
[22:19] <meoblast001> no it hangs
[22:19] <hashbrow1> has anyone experienced problems with dual nics under ubuntu? whenever I have both of mine enabled, i cannot connect to the internet but i can get to my lan.
[22:20] <Slart> meoblast001: that's odd.. I'll give it a try here.. see if I get the same result
[22:20] <meoblast001> Slart: no it was hanging before pulseaudio
[22:20] <NotSure> slart  which component to install     Base Install     Dedicated Server  or   Surce code??    default is Base INstall
[22:20] <unop_> hashbrow1, you have to ensure that default gateways are configured properly
[22:20] <Slart> hashbrow1: I have two nics on a couple of my machines.. you just have to make sure you configure them correctly..
[22:20] <Lasivian> onetinsoldier: thanks
[22:20] <starcannon> hashbrow1 its been awhile but if I remember right, you have to set one to the default, in System>Administration>Network Tools (gnome)
[22:20] <Slart> NotSure: I would go with base install
[22:20] <meoblast001> Slart: it will probably work again sometime after a restart.... something must have messed it up
[22:21] <Slart> meoblast001: ok
[22:21] <hashbrow1> unop_, slart: can one of you help me configure them?
[22:21] <CheesyWeasel> CyberGabber: i wish i knew what that meant...
[22:21] <unop_> hashbrow1, see what starcannon just said
[22:21] <onetinsoldier> Lasivian: you're welcome. i really recommend checking it out, it really is very nice. it's like the free WinDirStat for windows
[22:21] <quentusrex> How do I find out if my processor is 64-bit or not?
[22:21] <NotSure> slart  Cool were gamin... Thx for the help
[22:22] <meoblast001> Slart: i just killalld pulseaudio and my stupid script wont work that i need to (requires a restart cuz it uses the screwed up idiotic kernel module)
[22:22] <meoblast001> Slart: so im gonna restart
[22:22] <unop_> quentusrex,  dpkg --print-architecture
[22:22] <Slart> hashbrow1: I'm a bit busy at the moment.. but it isn't that hard.. ask the channel for help if you can't figure it out (it's not really different from using just one nic but you have to keep track of which card is used to what network)
[22:22] <starcannon> quentusrex sudo lshw -C cpu
[22:22] <quentusrex> unop_: I'm not talking about my OS, I'm asking about my processor.
[22:23] <quentusrex> unop_: thanks though
[22:23] <Slart> Nova1: you're welcome.. go eat humans =)
[22:23] <zigzags> usser: would it be my phone company(samsung) or my provier(verizon) shut down the bluetooth on my phone
[22:23] <hashbrow1> starcannon: i checked there, theres no option to set one as the default.
[22:23] <CheesyWeasel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1023194 thats a brief rundown of my problem. anybody know what to do?
[22:23] <quentusrex> thanks starcannon that worked.
[22:23] <Lasivian> what is the best way to make sure that unused dependencies are removed when removing a program?
[22:23] <starcannon> welcom quentusrex
[22:23] <starcannon> hashbrow1 okies, taking a look
[22:23] <usser> zigzags, provider most likely manufacturers have little incentive in releasing broken phones
[22:24] <Slart> Lasivian: apt-get autoremove will remove unused stuff.. but I think just running apt-get update will warn you about it
[22:24] <Lasivian> thanks
[22:24] <usser> zigzags, and verizon is known for being really anal about their phones
[22:24] <zigzags> it is my uncles phone i am messing with, his provider is Cincinatti Bell, would they most likely shut own the bluetooth?
[22:24] <CyberGabber> CheesyWeasel: In Gnome, right-clik on menubar. Select 'Add-to-Panel', then select the 'Battery-charge-monitor'
[22:24] <starcannon> hashbrow1 I'll brb on a machine that has 2 nics in it, I'm on my laptop atm
[22:24] <zigzags> down**
[22:24] <hashbrow1> starcannon: oaky
[22:25] <CheesyWeasel> CyberGabber: oh. thats there. a little bubble pops up from it every time i press fn+f2 though.
[22:25] <swe> Some one help me? Xorg is using my cpu usage, my cpu stays over 70% all of the time.
[22:25] <allquixotic> hashbrow1: do you have both of your NICs plugged in, or is just one of them plugged?
[22:26] <u53r> swe check ur logs
[22:26] <n00bf4rt> Hi, all i need someone who can tell me how to install airsnort in ubuntu ^^
[22:26] <u53r> n00bf4rt use synaptic
[22:27] <bingungaja> anyone, please help me with my notebook card reader issues ... how to mount it ?? Texas Instruments 5-in-1 Multimedia Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS PRO/xD)
[22:27] <n00bf4rt> ok heres the thing im a linux noob :) so i rlly need it step by step if thats ok ^^
[22:27] <n00bf4rt> so if you got some time, can you tell me ?\
[22:27] <Slart> n00bf4rt: sudo apt-get install snort will install snort.. don't think airsnort is in the repos
[22:27] <starcannon> who was it that was setting up 2 nic's?
[22:27] <memphis_> CheesyWeasel, look into the gconf-editor if the key comibation ist set display the battery status
[22:27] <nbeebo> n00bf4rt,  use synaptic
[22:27] <allquixotic> starcannon: hashbrow1
[22:27] <Slart> starcannon: it was hashbrow1
[22:27] <hashbrow1> starcannon: me
[22:27] <CheesyWeasel> memphis_: i am pretty much just getting started, so i should run gconf-editor?
[22:27] <n00bf4rt> i never heard of synaptic so ill need some help with that first
[22:28] <Slart> !synaptic | n00bf4rt
[22:28] <n00bf4rt> k ty
[22:28] <Schuenemann> Slart, sorry to insist: why there is no alsaconf anymore?
[22:28] <starcannon> hashbrow1 okies, cool I'll be a minute I'm gonna look at my settings and report back for you
[22:28] <CheesyWeasel> memphis_: oh i've been here before. i dont know where that information would be though.
[22:28] <allquixotic> bingungaja: If it's a USB card reader, then it should just work when you plug in a card to one of its slots.
[22:28] <n00bf4rt> ah i see
[22:28] <hashbrow1> starcannon: okay.
[22:28] <n00bf4rt> thnx, i remember it from fedora :) ( yum )
[22:28] <Slart> Schuenemann: I don't really know why they removed it.. I just remember looking for it myself some time ago when I was troubleshooting alsa.. a lot of howto's on the net mention it
[22:29] <anipy> hi. i like to install python 3.0 on ubuntu 8.04 hardy heron, as alternative installation to the distro python 2.5.2 installation. how can i find a py3 debian package if not in the default repositories?
[22:29] <nbeebo> could dist upgrade do ibex solve any driver problems?
[22:29] <CheesyWeasel> memphis_: where would that information be in gconf-editor?
[22:29] <bingungaja> allquixotic: no, it's not USB card reader, but MMC card reader which attached in my benq notebook
[22:29] <meoblast> Slart: back.... did a hard reset cuz this computer is slow and cant restart worth crap
[22:29] <Slart> !info python3.0anipy:
[22:29] <allquixotic> nbeebo: upgrading the distro won't resolve all your driver problems magically, but there are improvements in 8.10.
[22:29] <memphis_> CheesyWeasel, apps --> metacity --> global keybindings
[22:29] <Slart> !info python3.0 | anipy
[22:29] <nbeebo> allquixotic, that what i wanted to hear thanx
[22:30] <nbeebo> thanks*
[22:30] <memphis_> CheesyWeasel, look if you can find the combo that interfers
[22:30] <Slart> anipy: so "sudo apt-get install python3.0" ought to install it
[22:30] <allquixotic> bingungaja: Do you know what sort of protocol it's using? I have heard of laptop card readers using anything from serial to internal USB to eSATA... god knows what. maybe it's PCI.
[22:30] <starcannon> hashbrow1 hmm lol, i have a problem here with my network tools brb
[22:30] <Slart> meoblast: ok, so hows the sound situation now?
[22:30] <CheesyWeasel> memphis_: its not there. theres no option for battery/power information nor is there the keystroke that im talking about
[22:31] <hashbrow1> starcannon: okay.
[22:31] <pisecx> What can be the reason for zoom not working in rotate cube?
[22:31] <allquixotic> bingungaja: You can try running lspci and lsusb, and see if either of those commands lists your card reader as a device
[22:31] <meoblast> Slart: dont know.... waiting for this slow piece of crap to start a browser
[22:31] <patb> fuck it reinstallin
[22:31] <Slart> anipy: I'm not sure if it will overwrite your python2 install though..
[22:31] <patb> just ro be safe
[22:31] <Slart> !language < patb
[22:31] <Slart> !language | patb
[22:31] <unop_> ha ha
[22:31] <patb> lol
[22:31] <patb> lerned a lesson
[22:31] <meoblast> Slart: only thing that keeps me still using this thing is the knowledge that im getting a new quadcore
[22:31] <patb> dont use other sources
[22:31] <memphis_> CheesyWeasel, do all the other function keys (mostly the blue once) work?
[22:32] <bingungaja> allquixotic: i'm using lspci, it's there, but not for lsusb
[22:32] <nbeebo> how do i upgrade ubuntu to 8.10?
[22:32] <Flannel> nbeebo: from what?
[22:32] <meoblast> nbeebo: i know how
[22:32] <patb> go to pckage manager
[22:32] <unop_> !upgrade > nbeebo
[22:32] <Slart> !upgrade | nbeebo
[22:32] <CheesyWeasel> memphis_: well they do what i've assigned them to do in "keyboard shortcuts" under sys>prefs
[22:32] <patb> updater
[22:32] <nbeebo> lol
[22:32] <nbeebo> thanks all
[22:32] <patb> should do it automaticly
[22:32] <Slart> meoblast: hehe.. quad cores are nice.. (got one myself)
[22:32] <allquixotic> bingungaja: Then the MMC reader is connected to the PCI bus in some sense. The fact that it's not a USB Mass Storage Device casts some doubt on whether it's compatible; PCI cards have to be specifically supported on an individual basis.
[22:32] <CheesyWeasel> memphis_: so like fn+f3 brings the volume down and fn+f4 brings it up.
[22:33] <meoblast> nbeebo: if you have 8.04.... you have to change the settings in synaptic to show every distrubution upgrade... and not just LTS upgrades
[22:33] <ra> Games and Ubuntu have a love hate relationship it seems
[22:33] <patb> urrgh cant beilev i got hacked
[22:33] <meoblast> Slart: you dont even want to know the specs on this machine
[22:33] <anipy> Slart: thank you. i browsed almost an hour with no result. sudo apt-get install points me to python3.1 and python3.2... which is weired since there is just 3.0 released.
[22:33] <memphis_> CheesyWeasel, lol, i had the same problem with my notebook, i did not even know that there was such a nice solution to this problem :D :D :D
[22:33] <patb> display was messed they left msgs on dektop
[22:33] <bingungaja> allquixotic: sorry, i kind of confuse, then what should I do to make this work ? any chance ?
[22:33] <allquixotic> bingungaja: Can you paste into chat the *single line* entry of lspci that lists your MMC card reader? Just one line, please... starting with some numbers and ending with the description of the card.
[22:33] <CheesyWeasel> memphis_: whats the nice solution?
[22:33] <memphis_> CheesyWeasel, thanks!
[22:34] <biomass> patb: why don't you just reinstall ? probably the best solution
[22:34] <CheesyWeasel> memphis_: you're welcome?
[22:34] <patb> yeh thats what i'm doin
[22:34] <Slart> anipy: hmm.. I don't see a python3.2.. perhaps it's something else
[22:34] <memphis_> setting key combinations via sys ---> prefs instead of the gconf-editor
[22:34] <patb> just downloadin ubuntu 8
[22:34] <nbeebo> meoblast,  thanks i found it at the ubottu factoid.. do i know u? lol
[22:34] <sinan2> I have a problem with openssh, i edited the /etc/ssh/ssh_config file to change the port, restarted /etc/init.d/ssh, but it is still using port 22. Anyone can help?
[22:34] <patb> dont want to hav to update from 7
[22:34] <bingungaja> allquixotic: here you go [22:34] <CheesyWeasel> memphis_: yeah but the problem is not all of the key combos are in there. thats my problem.
[22:34] <meoblast> nbeebo: yes you do........ screencast webcam hack
[22:34] <Lightman> hi
[22:35] <biomass> sinan2: it's sshd_config
[22:35] <nbeebo> meoblast, oh yeah.. btw just kidding
[22:35] <meoblast> oh lol
[22:35] <Friek> hi again, synaptic cant find airsnort.. whats next ? -D
[22:35] <Friek> =D
[22:35] <onetinsoldier> !hello | lightman
[22:35] <onetinsoldier> Hi Lightman
[22:35] <Nutt718> hello all
[22:35] <meoblast> why do i have to click the worst things on acident.... guess im reading my email now since its opening
[22:35] <Lightman> do u known where can i find help for C programmation?
[22:36] <meoblast> Lightman: #c++ ?
[22:36] <Lightman> no c
[22:36] <CheesyWeasel> memphis_: so you dont know how to fix my problem? instead i fixed yours?
[22:36] <Coggz> usser: http://pastebin.com/m6a52f8c can you see anything wrong with this? I am new to shell scripting :P
[22:36] <memphis_> CheesyWeasel, lol sounds like it :D
[22:36] <CheesyWeasel> memphis_: awesome...
[22:36] <sinan2> biomass: thanks, perfect :)
[22:36] <memphis_> but i will look for a solution for yours
[22:36] <CheesyWeasel> well i feel good but im still stuck with my problem lol
[22:36] <CheesyWeasel> memphis_: thanks.
[22:36] <memphis_> its got to be somewhere
[22:37] <allquixotic> bingungaja: Thank you. I actually need some more info: can you please run `lspci -nnvv`... Under the entry that lists your Texas Instruments MMC, you should see a group of numbers/letters in this format: [11ab:4364]  Please paste just that set of eight letters/numbers, with or without the brackets.
[22:37] <Schuenemann> oh, good lord, why does this kernel I compiled sucks so much?
[22:37] <biomass> sinan2: ssh_ without the D is for the ssh client
[22:37] <usser> Coggz, try this http://pastebin.com/m44a02c48
[22:37] <patb> anyone happen to get the drivers to work with 3945abg card in promiscous mode
[22:37] <Nutt718> how do you install a .bin file (jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin) from a terminal?
[22:38] <nbeebo> great i need 500 more mb of free space
[22:38] <Nutt718> the instructions are not working for me
[22:38] <allquixotic> bingungaja: The group of digits I'm looking for is listed right after the name of the device; I don't need the numbers listed for the "Subsystem:" entry.
[22:38] <nbeebo> i rly need fresh install dammit
[22:38] <onetinsoldier> Schuenemann: i don't know. i only know how to customize my own. mine works great! :-D
[22:38] <Schuenemann> onetinsoldier, you had no problems with sound?
[22:38] <anipy> Slart: you have the intrepid universe repository added to your sources?
[22:38] <Slart> anipy: yup
[22:39] <Slart> !info python3.2
[22:39] <onetinsoldier> Schuenemann: well, the kernel i customized is 2.6.28... if i want to use 2.6.27 then i just boot the stock kernel
[22:39] <onetinsoldier> Schuenemann: but no.. under my 2.6.28, no problem with sound
[22:39] <anipy> Slart: ok, i would need to add them (i'm on hardy), and there is no python3.0, just 3.1 + 3.2 ("no installation candidate", though)
[22:40] <bingungaja> allquixotic: here you go [22:40] <memphis_> CheesyWeasel, sys --> prefs ,,, the key combo is "Mute audio" here on my box... i can adjust the keys right there
[22:40] <meoblast> Slart: thanx... it works now... see for yourself... http://www.blogtv.com/People/meoblast001
[22:40] <Schuenemann> onetinsoldier, mine is 2.6.24. I don't remember removing anything related to sound
[22:40] <allquixotic> bingungaja: Thank you. I'm going to look up this device in some databases and see if I can find out its hardware compatibility.
[22:40] <patb> can seem to get the awl3945 driver to work with 3945abg card in 8 anyone?
[22:40] <Coggz> usser: sttill nothing, using that code you sent, metacity comes on, but the game doesnt start...
[22:40] <onetinsoldier> Schuenemann: hmmm....
[22:40] <Slart> anipy: hm.. I see python3.2 when using apt-cache search.. but not in synaptic.. very strange
[22:40] <bingungaja> allquixotic: sorry , wrong code == here you go for the right one  [104c:803b]
[22:41] <usser> Coggz, check the path
[22:41] <allquixotic> bingungaja: Got it. Looking at the new PCI ID.
[22:41] <acce245> Question: I have a binary program, want to know how to launch it quickly.
[22:41] <usser> Coggz, try the cd /home/.... line outside of script see if it works
[22:41] <CheesyWeasel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1023194 thats a brief rundown of my problem. anybody know what to do?
[22:41] <bingungaja> allquixotic: the first one is the subsystem, the second one is the right one
[22:41] <anipy> Slart: well, in adept i see no python3* at all
[22:41] <\\`oot> Hi everyone... is there a Linux-based interface into iTunes?
[22:42] <allquixotic> bingungaja: That's fine. I have located some info on the device now with the second one :)
[22:42] <Schuenemann> onetinsoldier, if I had alsaconf things could get easier
[22:42] <bingungaja> allquixotic: thx :)
[22:42] <onetinsoldier> Schuenemann: how come you don't have it?
[22:42] <hombre> does anyone speak french?
[22:42] <supernoob> anyone wanna give me a hand with a wierd opera issue? it's probably a real quick fix
[22:42] <Coggz> usser: the path in mine was right, it had a \ for the space, as in /Program\ Files/ and i can cd using that exact same path
[22:42] <hombre> hello
[22:42] <Schuenemann> onetinsoldier, ubuntu doesn't have it. Try it
[22:43] <CheesyWeasel> memphis_: i LIKE my mute audio key stroke combo. i want to change the OTHER one. the one thats also using fn+f2.
[22:43] <hombre> ubuntu-fr
[22:43] <supernoob> everytime i start up opera, I get an error about how the lock file is active, followed by an 'opera mail' store init and engine init() error
[22:43] <orci> hi all, can I sort packages in synaptic by space they occupy
[22:43] <usser> Coggz, putting it in quotes is the same as escaping
[22:43] <patb> can seem to get the awl3945 driver to work with 3945abg card in 8 anyone?
[22:43] <hombre> ubuntu_fr
[22:43] <onetinsoldier> Schuenemann: yeah, i noticed. but with you saying 2.6.24, i thought perhaps you were running an older version of Ubuntu that might have it
[22:43] <hombre> ubuntu.fr
[22:43] <usser> Coggz, and it makes stuff more readable
[22:43] <patb> can seem to get the awl3945 driver to work with 3945abg card in 8 anyone?
[22:43] <dnyy> I get a "E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate" error while trying to install libdvdcss2.  It says it's not available, but referred to by another package.  Any ideas why?
[22:43] <Draco_1> I'm trying to install GRUB on my third HD, without touching windows bootloader, but I'm stuck, can anybody help me? In private if possible
[22:43] <usser> Coggz, but the problem is metacity --replace
[22:43] <treyk4> I want to have both GNOME and KDE on my computer, but I want to keep all the kde apps only in the kde menus, and the gnome apps only in the gnome menus. How could I do this?
[22:43] <Coggz> usser: ok, fair enough, however either way, i doesn't work..
[22:44] <Schuenemann> onetinsoldier, it's hardy
[22:44] <usser> Coggz, it doesnt return
[22:44] <acce245> Do I need to cd a binary file to 'install' it?
[22:44] <hombre> please how to go at ubuntu.fr
[22:44] <dnyy> treyk4: I think it does that by default.
[22:44] <usser> Coggz, try metacity --replace &
[22:44] <usser> Coggz, and compiz --replace &
[22:44] <RomD> hombre, /join #ubuntu-fr
[22:44] <Slart> meoblast: you're playing.. mario?? =)
[22:44] <onetinsoldier> Schuenemann: roger, and hardy doesn't have it either? pffftt, i thought hardy probably had it
[22:45] <hombre> thank you romd
[22:45] <meoblast> Slart: im gonna play mario now
[22:45] <treyk4> dnyy: no... I've just installed KDE and I'm getting all the kde apps in the gnome menus. Although I don't believe I saw gnome apps in the KDE menu.
[22:45] <supernoob> everytime i start up opera, I get an error about how the lock file is active, followed by an 'opera mail' store init and engine init() error
[22:45] <Nutt718> how do you install a .bin file (jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin) from a terminal?
[22:45] <usser> supernoob, killall -9 opera
[22:45] <RCP> How do I see Host much CPU an App is using?
[22:45] <Schuenemann> onetinsoldier, Then I try to compile it but I don't have this libasound bleh
[22:45] <allquixotic> bingungaja: There is an open source project that supports this driver, but it hasn't been updated in a while, so it doesn't seem to compile cleanly on Ubuntu 8.04 or 8.10. I am wondering if there is newer support for it in the kernel. Here's something for you to read while I investigate further... http://developer.berlios.de/projects/tifmxx/
[22:45] <Slart> meoblast: this site is almost hypnotic.. just watching people clicking around.. =)
[22:45] <usser> supernoob, an instance of opera is left running perhaps it crashed?
[22:45] <supernoob> treyk4, i've read that that happens. Frankly, i don't really know much about this stuff yet, but i think your problem is unavoidable
[22:45] <orci> yes I can
[22:46] <supernoob> although i think it shouldn't be more than a nuisance
[22:46] <acce245> I am curious on the .bin question as well.
[22:46] <RomD> RCP, gnome-system-monitor
[22:46] <supernoob> even when i close out normally i get that eror
[22:46] <onetinsoldier> Schuenemann: you don't have a libasound2 package that you can install?
[22:46] <RCP> RomD, Umm CLI?
[22:46] <RCP> This is a Server
[22:46] <CheesyWeasel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1023194 thats a brief rundown of my problem. anybody know what to do?
[22:46] <meoblast> Slart: im trying to to too much lol
[22:46] <RomD> then I don't know :)
[22:46] <bingungaja> allquixotic: thx very much, i try to read that first while I'm waiting for your good news LOL :)
[22:46] <Schuenemann> onetinsoldier, it requires version 1
[22:46] <Coggz> usser: ah, trying.. that has done the trick, but i had to switch to the program once it wa running..
[22:46] <patb> cant seem to get the awl3945 driver to work with 3945abg card in 8 anyone?
[22:46] <Schuenemann> onetinsoldier, it requires version 1.0.15*
[22:46] <anipy> treyk4: as far as i remember, in gnome is an option to include or exclude KDE apps in the menu.
[22:46] <allquixotic> bingungaja: Can you do me a favor, and run the command `lsmod | grep tifm`
[22:46] <onetinsoldier> Schuenemann: ohhhh, dang
[22:46] <supernoob> allright, i'll try the killall -9 opera command, but I hope i don't have to do that everytime i close opera, will i?
[22:46] <usser> patb, are using hardy?
[22:47] <onetinsoldier> Schuenemann: well, sorry, i don't know how to help
[22:47] <allquixotic> bingungaja: It would appear that the tifm stuff has been integrated into the Linux kernel now, but I'm trying to determine if you have the modules loaded. If not, we can load them and that should really start to produce results.
[22:47] <patb> yeh
[22:47] <usser> supernoob, as long as it terminates normally u shouldnt
[22:47] <patb> wont compile
[22:47] <RCP> Anyone Know if there is a CLI CPU monitor?
[22:47] <patb> get error 2
[22:47] <\\`oot> Hi... has anyone tried to rip a DVD with DVD::rip and failed?  Ubuntu recognizes my DVD player and plays movies but dvd::rip seems to fail to lsdvd?
[22:47] <Coggz> usser: oh, and compiz didn't kick back in..
[22:47] <hischild_pc> RCP, top
[22:47] <usser> patb, where you getting the driver from?
[22:47] <patb> tried all over the net
[22:47] <patb> you know where i can find a good one
[22:48] <RCP> Thx hischild_pc
[22:48] <memphis_> CheesyWeasel, do you know the name of the package of the charger applet?
[22:48] <bingungaja> allquixotic: what should i tell u ?
[22:48] <CheesyWeasel> memphis_: nope.
[22:48] <supernoob> usser, will killall fix it so it terminates normally?
[22:48] <hischild_pc> RCP, np
[22:48] <allquixotic> bingungaja: Did the command that you ran, produce any output?
[22:48] <R0b0t1> I need to get libgdb.a, but installing libgdb-dev didn't fix the problem. Anything else to look for?
[22:48] <Nutt718> does anyone know how to update java for open office? The websites instructions are not working for me
[22:48] <Jeaton> what exactly is lost+found?
[22:49] <RCP> hischild_pc, PM?
[22:49] <bingungaja> allquixotic: yup, tifm_sd = 0, tifm_7XX1 =0, tifm_core =2
[22:49] <starcannon> hashbrow1 I've discovered a problem on my system while troubleshooting your problem lol, so I won't be able to help you until after I have fixed mine, while I can connect, when I press the "Configure" button on my nic's it says they do not exist, even though they show up in every interface /sigh so gl and sorry to have wasted your time :(
[22:49] <Draco_1> I can't manage to install GRUB, can anybody help me? I've been working on it for half a day now, so I'm stressed,  I'm bored, I'm angry and I'm about to trow ubuntu disk out of the window
[22:49] <usser> patb, thats where i got mine http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/ but i dont recommend it, try enabling backports repo and installing linux-backports package a lot of stuff was fixed with intel
[22:49] <usser> supernoob, should
[22:49] <hischild_pc> RCP, please stick with the channel.
[22:49] <usser> Coggz, thats strange, you closed the game?
[22:49] <RCP> 31339 root      18   0  2164 1100  768 R  100  0.3  10947:54 nano
[22:50] <usser> Coggz, using compiz --replace?
[22:50] <allquixotic> bingungaja: Then it looks like the tifm kernel modules are automatically detecting your PCI MMC reader and loading as a result :) Can you now run `dmesg | grep -i tifm` and let me know if there is any output? If it's more than two lines, put it into a pastebin like http://pastebin.com and send me the URL
[22:50] <DasEi> bingungaja: did these drivers work ?
[22:50] <CyberGabber> CheesyWeasel, memphis_ : Maybe this is helpfull ( no experience personally ) ; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560
[22:50] <RCP> nano Locked my Server up with 100% CPU << hischild_pc
[22:50] <zuse12345> yay im un banned from here
[22:50] <allquixotic> DasEi: We're trying to determine that now.
[22:51] <supernoob> usser i think it worked!!! wtg man. the third prob i forgot to mention still happens though: everytime i restart, a new tab opens at http://0/
[22:51] <supernoob> ideas?
[22:51] <hischild_pc> RCP, then kill the process.
[22:51] <onetinsoldier> Jeaton: if a files(s) get broken to where the filesystem cannot recover it, then it and any of it's fragments that could not be put back together, goes to lost+found
[22:51] <RCP> I did
[22:51] <RCP> lol
[22:51] <supernoob> usser, btw, jsut as a learning experience, what does the command 'killall -9 _____' do? killall seems self-explanatory, but what is the 9?
[22:51] <RCP> IT was Riping a 4Core To Hell
[22:51] <RCP> lol
[22:51] <BinaryBoy001> Should I install "Intel-microcode" if Im using a Core 2 Duo???
[22:51] <Jeaton> ok
[22:51] <Coggz> usser: sortedd it, removedd the --replace from compiz
[22:51] <bingungaja> DasEi: not working
[22:51] <hischild_pc> supernoob, hard kill, like pulling the plug.
[22:51] <bingungaja> allquixotic: here you go http://pastebin.com/m3746a44f
[22:52] <CheesyWeasel> CyberGabber: thanks.
[22:52] <hashbrow1> starcannon: are you able to connect to the internet?
[22:52] <starcannon> yes, but I am unable to get into the gui configurator for either of my nic's
[22:52] <starcannon> indeed I'm using the very computer that is having the issue to chat with you
[22:52] <starcannon> eth0 has an IP, ech1 does not
[22:52] <starcannon> erm eth1 does not
[22:52] <memphis_> CheesyWeasel, i haven't worked with it either, but i think the best thing would be to find some preferences for the applet and tell it to stop displaying the notification at FN + F2...
[22:53] <CheesyWeasel> memphis_: i've looked and looked. i cant find anything like that
[22:53] <hashbrow1> starcannon: oh :( .  thats what my setup looks like right now. if you find a solution please tell m e
[22:53] <starcannon> anyway, I can't help sort yours out as mine is not working correctly, even if I gave you some sort of answer, it would be based off of a faulty setup
[22:53] <supernoob> usser, so why does pulling the plug make it work every time after?
[22:53] <scientes__> http://pastie.org/347590
[22:53] <memphis_> CheesyWeasel i am searching the gconf but i cant find anything either... quite an unusual problem i guess
[22:54] <hashbrow1> hey are the restricted nvidia drivers worth it to install?
[22:54] <usser> supernoob, killall -9 sends a termination that signal that cannot be handled or ignored its forced shut down for an app
[22:54] <starcannon> hashbrow1 will do, I forget names sometimes, so pm me on the ubuntuforums.org site, I use the same handle there, and when I solve I will send you a reply
[22:54] <usser> Coggz, alright
[22:54] <starcannon> afk while I sort it out
[22:54] <hashbrow1> starcannon: okay, i guess ill have to make an account
[22:55] <Draco_1> I'm trying to install Grub, without any luck, is there anyone kind enought to help me?
[22:55] <allquixotic> bingungaja: What ver of Ubuntu?
[22:56] <DasEi> Draco_1:
[22:56] <DasEi> !grub
[22:56] <Slart> !grub | Draco_1, I suck at grub myself but here's some bot-goodness.. hope it helps
[22:56] <bingungaja> allquixotic: 8.10
[22:56] <supernoob> usser, i guess i'll jsut have to do some reading. i just don't get why shuttign it down like that once makes it work properly every other time
[22:56] <Draco_1> I've read that faq already, I've been navigating between documentations for half a day ....
[22:56] <DasEi> Draco_1: first link, can assist you
[22:56] <supernoob> usser, i'ts been a learning experience anywya, thx for the help
[22:57] <ovidiu> Hi
[22:57] <\\`oot> How can I tell why a certain DVD isn't playing?
[22:57] <ovidiu> anybody here?
[22:57] <defenceminister> the network manager applet does not retain manual settings after restart. It reverts back to auto dhcp on every restart.
[22:57] <usser> supernoob, no problem
[22:58] <DasEi> !hi|ovidiu
[22:58] <stompr> hey guys, i'm still messing around with an irq conflict
[22:58] <Draco_1> ovidiu, there are 1300 ppl there, just ask your question
[22:58] <stompr> i've been doing this for the past several days
[22:58] <DasEi> Draco_1: want to pm me ?
[22:58] <memphis_> CheesyWeasel, sorry dude, no clou
[22:58] <defenceminister> I have tried to setting my configurations manual in /etc/networks/interfaces
[22:58] <stompr> how do i manually force an IRQ assignment?
[22:58] <CheesyWeasel> memphis_: yeah me neither thanks though.
[22:58] <allquixotic> bingungaja: Do you have any files in /dev whose name starts with mmcblk?
[22:58] <ovidiu> I have Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex on my PC, and I have downgraded my kernel version to 2.6.24-19 (because Bluetooth doesn't work with Intrepid's kernel), but I lost the sound support
[22:59] <allquixotic> bingungaja: For example the output of `ls /dev/mmcblk*` should produce either "No such file or directory", or give you a list
[22:59] <ovidiu> how can I have sound again?
[22:59] <MrWindex> hey all
[22:59] <neher> Happy Gift Day. I just installed Ubuntu 8.04 a couple days ago on a Dell Dimension 2400. I am having a problem going into Suspend, or rather, when I do suspend, I have all kinds of glitch things happening on the display when coming out of suspend, as in, the display flicks all over when I do anything upon returning from suspend. Any ideas?
[22:59] <Draco_1> DasEi, I whould be gratefull if you can pm me yourself, as I don't know the command to do it
[22:59] <mortuis99> hey im having a problem.  i installed 8.10 and now im not able to hear anything.  even with the volume turned WAY up it is still very quiet
[22:59] <stompr> how do i manually force an IRQ assignment?
[22:59] <DasEi> Draco_1: on the wa..
[22:59] <rezor21> Is there a way using some command like "lshw" to find whether a HDD is SATA vs. IDE?
[22:59] <bingungaja> allquixotic: no such file or directory
[22:59] <MrWindex> so I've got an opinion question when someone has a chance. I've got windows xp and ubuntu dual booted and an external hard drive. What filesystem is recommended for that hard drive so that BOTH linux and windows can read/write on it stably
[23:00] <usser> MrWindex, ntfs would do just fine
[23:00] <allquixotic> bingungaja: Are you only trying to mount an XD memory card or have you tried an SD card yet?
[23:00] <DasEi> Draco_1: see tab on your messenger
[23:00] <MrWindex> usser: really? I've heard write support with ubuntu on NTFS is unstable
[23:00] <KillerOrca> MrWindex, without installing anything else FAT32
[23:01] <Draco_1> can't see it
[23:01] <usser> MrWindex, its not that its unstable there are some performance issues
[23:01] <MrWindex> KillerOrca: what do you mean without installing anything else?
[23:01] <DasEi> Draco_1: type:     /query DasEi
[23:01] <MrWindex> usser: oh really? is that it?
[23:01] <mortuis99> hey im having a problem.  i installed 8.10 and now im not able to hear anything.  even with the volume turned WAY up it is still very quiet
[23:01] <zuse12345> what os do you guys use?
[23:01] <Draco_1> I think I have some network problem, let me reboot a moment
[23:01] <stompr> how do i manually force an IRQ assignment?
[23:01] <ovidiu> I have Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex on my PC, and I have downgraded my kernel version to 2.6.24-19 (because Bluetooth doesn't work with Intrepid's kernel), but I lost the sound support
[23:01] <IndyGunFreak> !patience | ovidiu
[23:01] <DasEi> Draco_1: which messenger do you use ?
[23:02] <bingungaja> allquixotic: firstly i try to to use SD card, it can't be done, try something from google which ask me to modprobe tifm, done that, and checked that it already loaded, then i try again my MMC, nothing happened, then i guess it can't be mount
[23:02] <hashbrow1> i just activated the NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version 177) and after i restarted my computer, I have a blank screen.  How do I fix this?
[23:02] <KillerOrca> MrWindex, to get the ntfs to work better you just need to install a few more packages, I know win can r/w to FAT32 fine, and have used ubuntu to read FAT32
[23:02] <usser> MrWindex, yes some file operations are slower with ntfs on ubuntu than on windows
[23:02] <zuse12345> can you get banned here for saying windows?
[23:02] <boulbul> Hi, I have just intalled ubuntu 8.10 ...I started well, but later the system started to freeze, any clues at all?
[23:02] <kieko> hi
[23:02] <DasEi>  hashbrow1:boot in safe mode, then : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:02] <Slart> zuse12345: nope.. but we're really bad at answering windows questions
[23:03] <MrWindex> KillerOrca: can ubuntu write to FAT32 fine?
[23:03] <kieko> can someone tell me about Wine Tools?
[23:03] <MrWindex> usser: oh. that doesn't sound like too much of a problem then, I'm a patient guy
[23:03] <IndyGunFreak> should be able to.
[23:03] <Org-Mode> Slart: if only that were true
[23:03] <hashbrow1> DasEi, inorder to boot into safe mode do i need to hit escape when grub is loading?
[23:03] <kieko> i have wine installed but reading in forums he recommends wine tools too. However, i don't see it in synaptic available
[23:03] <RomD> MrWindex, ntfs works fine
[23:03] <DasEi>  hashbrow1:yup, then choose recovery-mode, when up > root shell
[23:04] <usser> MrWindex, certain programs dont like to be run from ntfs on ubuntu, like steam i think had some problems, vmware cant load virtual machines from ntfs
[23:04] <KillerOrca> MrWindex, haven't tested it personnaly
[23:04] <neher> Does anyone have any ideas as to why I am unable to go into Suspend?
[23:04] <Slart> Org-Mode: huh? that people can say windows without getting banned? or that's we're really bad at windows-questions?
[23:04] <Org-Mode> Slart: just last night i seen like 5 people actually helping someone erase Ubuntu and telling him how to install windows,
[23:04] <Org-Mode> slart bout answering windows questions
[23:04] <Noxz> Webcam, 'cat /dev/video0' shows correct output, like when I put my hand over it repeated information, in light and moving around the data varriates. gstreamer-properties wont work for v4l2, says unable to negotiate format (v4l-info says pjpg) and crashes when I test v4l(1)
[23:04] <kieko> this is the forum thread http://www.fxaddict.com/community/showthread.php?t=89 as you can see he is recommending Wine + Wine Tools... i can't find it in ubuntu repos though
[23:04] <MrWindex> usser: thank you very much you've been very helpful
[23:04] <boulbul> My ubuntu system is freezing a lot and I have to restart it from time to time to get it working...any clues to why this is hapening...is it a bug...I am runing ubuntu 8.10
[23:05] <CyberGabber> rezor21: I think yu can see with : sudo lshw -C disk
[23:05] <MrWindex> KillerOrca: thank you as well, you've also been helpful
[23:05] <MrWindex> RomD: thank you very much as well
[23:05] <bingungaja> allquixotic: from what i paste to you, do u know, actually what i'm facing ?
[23:05] <ovidiu> boulbul: in previous release (Hardy Heron) you have the same problem?
[23:05] <allquixotic> bingungaja: I'm running out of ideas without more careful investigation of the tifm driver. Someone who could really help you is Pierre Ossman; he is the Linux kernel maintainer for MMC and SD cards. I'm not an expert in this field, but if you could get a minute of Pierre's time (he can be found on freenode under the nick ossman, or you can post on LKML) he could help you figure out whether the driver supports it or what the pr
[23:05] <allquixotic> oblem is. If you're lucky, you could even help him or someone else fix the code so that this card reader works for everybody in the future :)
[23:05] <Slart> Org-Mode: well.. if that makes people happy I don't really see a problem with it.. although this might not be the best channel to do it in.. but I'm getting offtopic here..
[23:06] <kieko> can someone tell me about Wine Tools?
[23:06] <kieko> i have wine installed but reading in forums he recommends wine tools too. However, i don't see it in synaptic available
[23:06] <kieko> this is the forum thread http://www.fxaddict.com/community/showthread.php?t=89 as you can see he is recommending Wine + Wine Tools... i can't find it in ubuntu repos though
[23:06] <rezor21> CyberGabber: Thanks, but from what  Ican see, it lists both SATA and IDE drives both as "description: ATA Disk", so it is unclear which is which.
[23:06] <kieko> !winetools
[23:06] <Slart> kieko: I've never seen anything called wine tools?
[23:06] <boulbul> ovidiu: I use to run debian on it, this is the first time I run ubuntu...but, may I ask you why...cause I used to get similar problem with debian?
[23:07] <kieko> Slart, http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/index.html#download
[23:07] <Nutt718> !java
[23:07] <Org-Mode> Slart: yeah i was pretty disgusted about it, Im using win xp in a VM right now, so i have nothing against windows really, but telling people how to erase ubuntu and installing windows should NOT be discussed here in my opinion
[23:07] <supernoob> i'm running ubuntu through wubi and it boots really slow. is wubi the cause? i thought ubuntu was supposed to boot really fast
[23:07] <hashbrow1> dasei: should i use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[23:07] <DasEi>  hashbrow1:no
[23:07] <IndyGunFreak> supernoob: wubi has is own set of issues, not saying thats your problem, but it might be...
[23:07] <Org-Mode> Slart: and last night was not the first time ive seen that in here
[23:07] <Slart> kieko: ah.. found that site too.
[23:07] <benovi1> i get suddenly a very slow connection to my file server on both FTP and Samba, when i restart ubuntu (not the file server) it all works well again. having the error and trying to  unmount the samba share i get a Dbus error "Did not recieve a reply" - connection speed is under 100kb/sec. i really dont know what is causing this sudden slow down. caqn someone give me a hint?
[23:07] <bingungaja> allquixotic: oic, hmm Mr Pierre Ossman not online now, then I should ask for his favor later on :( what is LKML ? I'm confused, in google some says they can work it out, some say can't
[23:08] <thievery> hello guys, is there any way to specify disk geometry?
[23:08] <Schuenemann> I think it has to be a disc
[23:08] <allquixotic> bingungaja: There may be some customizations to the particular chip you have, such as its subsystem being different from what they're supporting. But I can't say for sure why it doesn't work.
[23:08] <benovi1> i am pretty much in the dark because its samba and ftp.
[23:08] <supernoob> indygunfreak: like waht?
[23:09] <allquixotic> bingungaja: The information you extracted from lspci -nnvv, the [104c:803B], will be something you'll need to get any more help from anyone. But if you can get hold of someone maybe on the Ubuntu kernel team, or Pierre himself, you'll be in better hands.
[23:09] <IndyGunFreak> supernoob: google.. prolly shoulda done that before you installed it though
[23:09] <Slart> kieko: well.. if you want to install it, it seems you'll have to do it from source.. don't use the rpm
[23:09] <allquixotic> bingungaja: LKML is the Linux kernel mailing list - it's where developers (rarely end users) will post questions about issues affecting the kernel, i.e., supported hardware is broken, etc.
[23:09] <allquixotic> bingungaja: But Pierre is active on LKML, so you could reach him that way if you're bold enough to post on LKML ;)
[23:09] <neher> Can someone help me with a Suspend problem?
[23:10] <kieko> Slart, right... debian repos are mentioned but clearly they're not in the ubuntu ones anyhow... installing from source :/
[23:10] <supernoob> indygunfreak:research i did made it seem pretty kosher. haven't had a ton of issues so far. but thanks, i'll look it up
[23:10] <Noxz> Webcam, 'cat /dev/video0' shows correct output, like when I put my hand over it repeated information, in light and moving around the data varriates. gstreamer-properties wont work for v4l2, says unable to negotiate format (v4l-info says pjpg) and crashes when I test v4l(1)
[23:10] <Noxz> tries all programs, from camorama and cheese to ekiga and skype
[23:11] <hashbrow1> dasei: okay i went through that thing, most of it was keyboard stuff.  Should I just restart now?
[23:11] <bingungaja> allquixotic: wow, this issues is far beyond my leaque, i'm just a newbie in ubuntu or linux :P I'll try to post on LKML for sure ! :) meanwhile, I must satisfied with using USB card reader then. It's annoying knowing that my notebook won't work maximal after huge money i spent :P
[23:11] <DasEi>  hashbrow1:your old confi should be backed up, so :  sudo reboot
[23:12] <hashbrow1> dasei: let it boot into ubuntu regularly?
[23:12] <bingungaja> allquixotic: thx again for your time and help, much appreciated
[23:12] <neher> adios
[23:12] <allquixotic> bingungaja: There is clear evidence from my research thus far that the Linux kernel *should* support the exact device you are trying to use
[23:12] <cubexde> Hey when someone gets a chance, I need help setting Ubuntu as the default OS in a dual-boot setup
[23:12] <allquixotic> bingungaja: I think it's a matter of the driver needing a minor tweak. It's not like you are asking someone to write an entirely new driver for you, at this point.
[23:12] <boulbul> this room is helpless...I rather have debian installed
[23:13] <DasEi>  hashbrow1:your old confi should be backed up, so :  sudo                         reboot
[23:13] <bingungaja> allquixotic: hahaha, yeah i guess u right, with all evidence you got and what i read in google, I will "pray" to be noticed in KLML :) I must go now, thx a lot bro
[23:14] <listamin> sudo good evening
[23:14] <listamin> cd ~
[23:14] <hashbrow1> dasei: okay well i rebooted it and let ubuntu boot normally.  There was the loading bar this time at least but now all ive got is a shell prompt
[23:14] <allquixotic> bingungaja: Before you go! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/186115
[23:14] <miguel> hola?
[23:14] <allquixotic> bingungaja: Add your input to that bug report, and read the things people have put there. That's talking about your very same device
[23:14] <listamin> python
[23:15] <DasEi>  hashbrow1:sudo gdm&
[23:15] <hashbrow1> dasei: im assuming i should log in right?
[23:16] <supernoob> sudo nerd /listamin
[23:16] <cubexde> can someone help me please?
[23:16] <hashbrow1> dasei: sudo gdm& returned [1] 5890
[23:16] <Vladi> Ola td bem com vcs
[23:16] <\Kira> I just put in a nvidia geforce 4 card, and started it up. It looked really messed up and nothing was working right. So I control+Alt+Backspaced, then tried again. It works perfect, but the "install restricted drivers" icon in the taskbar is now gone. How could I get it back?
[23:16] <nickrud> !ask | cubexde (no promises :)
[23:17] <taget0> fsck.ext3: unable to resolve 'UUID=nubmersandletters than it says fsck died with exit status 8? anyone know how to fix this problem
[23:17] <supernoob> ashfire908, how is your usernam "@wikipedia/Andrew-Hampe"?
[23:17] <cubexde> I need help setting Ubuntu as the default OS in a dual-boot system.
[23:17] <Vladi> Alguem pode me ajudar a tirar os cadeados das minhas pastas????
[23:17] <Ashfire908> supernoob, vhost.
[23:17] <nickrud> \Kira, system->admin->hardware drivers
[23:17] <sabgenton> how do I search the context of apt-get show
[23:18] <sabgenton> rather than package names
[23:18] <koshar1> cubexde whats the problem?
[23:18] <sabgenton> if you get me
[23:18] <\Kira> nickrud: thanks
[23:18] <DasEi>  hashbrow1:for some reason your x isn't starting, first try again : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg      , then sudo reboot , else come back
[23:18] <nickrud> cubexde, is this the ubuntu managed grub?
[23:18] <cubexde> koshar1: I want to know how to set my XP-Ubuntu machine to boot by default into Ubuntu.
[23:18] <hashbrow1> dasei: do i need to run that in safe mode again?
[23:19] <binspace> Hello, I forgot my wireless password. Is there a way to look it up in Network Manager?
[23:19] <supernoob> ashfire, naeto
[23:19] <koshar1> cubexde change the default entry in the /boot/grub/menu.1st file
[23:19] <binspace> The password is saved in the Network manager.
[23:19] <nickrud> taget0, that probably means you have a partition defined in /etc/fstab that doesn't exist, or the UUID changed
[23:19] <runescapemastr55> see
[23:19] <koshar1> cubexde the number represents the line in the grub screen, ie 2 means line 2 ect
[23:19] <runescapemastr55> see guys
[23:20] <runescapemastr55> did you ee it?
[23:20] <nickrud> runescapemastr55, ??
[23:20] <taget0> nickrud, ill check, everytime at boot it forces fsck and drops to a maintenence shell, very frustrating cant seem to get around it
[23:20] <sabgenton> apt-get show all |grep?
[23:20] <sabgenton> :P
[23:20] <GodfatherofEire> Ok, Just got a new keyboard, how would I adjust some of the function key buttons in Ubuntu?
[23:20] <runescapemastr55> i know how to talk whail im banned
[23:21] <sabgenton> anyone
[23:21] <nickrud> runescapemastr55, you're banned?
[23:21] <runescapemastr55> no
[23:21] <runescapemastr55> im just saying
[23:21] <runescapemastr55> if i was
[23:21] <runescapemastr55> i could still talk
[23:21] <runescapemastr55> nickrud, watch
[23:21] <cubexde> koshar1: So what do I need to do to this file?
[23:21] <nickrud> runescapemastr55, this is off topic: you're welcome to discuss it in #ubuntu-ops then
[23:21] <supernoob> godfatherofeire: system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[23:22] <supernoob> i think
[23:22] <runescapemastr55> ok
[23:22] <runescapemastr55> bye
[23:22] <DasEi>  hashbrow1:now , just from the bash you are
[23:22] <koshar1> cubexde cnage the value of default = ? to the line you want to boot as default
[23:22] <GodfatherofEire> supernoob, I dont mean that way, what I mean is, when I press a function key, it execs a  specific action, I was wondering how to change that seeing as how I dont know that key value
[23:23] <Vladi> Hello
[23:23] <CheesyWeasel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1023194 thats a brief rundown of my problem. anybody know what to do?
[23:23] <Vladi> Hello Kira how are you???
[23:23] <supernoob> godfatherofeire: ah. gl buddy. bit over my head
[23:23] <koshar1> cubexde https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS
[23:24] <cubexde> koshar1: It says "default     0", but I'm not sure what number to set that to. There are comments up the yingyang in this file :P
[23:24] <Vladi> Hello cubexde
[23:24] <rabidweezle> what's the vorbis dev packages called in ubuntu?
[23:25] <rabidweezle> I'm trying to compile something that needs the devel's
[23:25] <Vladi> Hellooooo
[23:25] <narzy> have a little samba problem
[23:25] <koshar1> cubexde default 0 means the very first line on the grub menu will be default, 1 means the second line sct, remember 0 is a number
[23:25] <Noxz> Webcam, 'cat /dev/video0' shows correct output, like when I put my hand over it repeated information, in light and moving around the data varriates. gstreamer-properties wont work for v4l2, says unable to negotiate format (v4l-info says pjpg) and crashes when I test v4l(1)..all programs from camorama and ekiga to cheese and skype, nothign works
[23:25] <hashbrow1> dasei: i just did that again and i still get the text based login screen
[23:25] <cubexde> koshar1: OK, Ubuntu is already default selected here, but the Windows installation is asking me if I want to load Windows or Ubuntu. When I select Ubuntu it loads Grub.
[23:26] <KillerOrca> CheesyWeasel, wow, strange issue, have you considered swithcing to KDE, my friend showed me they have a definite key-setting feature
[23:26] <DasEi>  hashbrow1:are you running ibex ?
[23:26] <CheesyWeasel> KillerOrca: i dont wanna switch, i just want it fixed. lol
[23:26] <hashbrow1> dasei: 8.10 yes
[23:26] <koshar1> cubexde are you using the windows boot manager? if so you will need to overwrite the win mbr OR change the boot.ini file
[23:26] <CheesyWeasel> KillerOrca: there is a solution, because you can change everything. i just cant seem to find it
[23:27] <KillerOrca> CheesyWeasel, well I wish I could help, but I don't know where it is either
[23:27] <cubexde> koshar1: Alright I have boot.ini opened. Now what?
[23:27] <sinbox> livorbis-dev I think rabidweezle
[23:27] <supernoob> cheesyweasel system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[23:27] <DasEi>  hashbrow1:sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf_saved
[23:27] <koshar1> cubexde bunno, i dont use windows, try the #windows support channel, or you could install grub to the MBR
[23:27] <CheesyWeasel> supernoob: its not there.
[23:27] <DasEi>  hashbrow1:sudo rm  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:27] <Vladi> helloooooo!!!!
[23:28] <DasEi>  hashbrow1:sudo reboot
[23:28] <nickrud> cubexde, is this a wubi install?
[23:28] <CheesyWeasel> supernoob: the mute function is, but thats not what im trying to change
[23:28] <cubexde> koshar1: I think I just figured it out. Thanks :)
[23:28] <git_> is there a software in linux to covert wink .swf to mpeg?
[23:28] <CapaH> Can anyone help me with something? My registrar is complaining that the new dns servers I have set up quote: "Have the wrong dns record type" -- I can dig mydomain.com @new_nameserver.com  with no issues. Any ideas?
[23:28] <KillerOrca> CheesyWeasel, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/assign-custom-shortcut-keys-on-ubuntu-linux/, might help
[23:29] <supernoob> at least in 8.10
[23:29] <CheesyWeasel> KillerOrca: i've looked through there
[23:29] <hashbrow1> dasei: okay i did that, now what?
[23:30] <DasEi>  hashbrow1:did you run the last 3 cmd 's ? still no change ?
[23:31] <hashbrow1> dasei: woops, overlooked the sudo reboot lol
[23:31] <aaroninfidel> hi, I was wondering if someone could point me to where I could find a bare bones installation of ubuntu...
[23:31] <owen1__> games are terribly slow on my machine. how to verify my graphic card is enabled?
[23:31] <rabidweezle> what video card?
[23:32] <onetinsoldier> owen1__: see what driver you are using --> grep drivers /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:32] <runescapemastr55> nickrud
[23:32] <onetinsoldier> owen1__: and yes, what card do you have?
[23:32]  * rabidweezle waits for some more dev packages to download
[23:32] <owen1__> onetinsoldier: Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nv_drv.so
[23:33] <owen1__> onetinsoldier: where can i see what card i have?
[23:33] <hashbrow1> dasei: well this time i got the loading screen this time but it still dropped back down to textbased login
[23:33] <onetinsoldier> owen1__: ok... output from   xglinfo | grep direct   ...?
[23:33] <aaroninfidel> can anyone point me to a bare bones installation of ubuntu?
[23:33] <rabidweezle> glxinfo | grep direct
[23:33] <onetinsoldier> owen1__: to see what casrd you have do this command --> lspci -v | grep VGA
[23:33] <owen1__> onetinsoldier: command not found. sholud i install xglinfo ?
[23:34] <owen1__> onetinsoldier: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev a2)
[23:34] <SJr|Nbook> Is there some reason I get an error "Invalid Argument 'Ad-Hoc'" error when I try to issue iwconfig ath0 mode Ad-Hoc
[23:34] <onetinsoldier> owen1__: sorry, i had the command wrong
[23:34] <Org-Mode> !minimal | aaroninfidel
[23:34] <onetinsoldier> owen1__: ok... output from   glxlinfo | grep direct   ...?
[23:34] <owen1__> onetinsoldier: glxlinfo: command not found
[23:35] <rabidweezle> typo
[23:35] <rabidweezle> glxinfo
[23:35] <onetinsoldier> owen1__: that grphics card is from like, what, the 1980's?
[23:35] <rabidweezle> lol
[23:35] <owen1__> onetinsoldier: not sure..
[23:35] <rabidweezle> glxinfo not = glxlinfo
[23:35] <onetinsoldier> owen1__: well, yes. it's like from the late 80's or early 90's....
[23:35] <mrwes> I have that card in my old HP desktop
[23:35] <hashbrow1> dasei: any ideas?
[23:36] <mrwes> heh... it'll run compiz too
[23:36] <\Kira> I put in a new graphics card (geforce4) and got it working. The games and little glitches and game speed are faster, but when Im not doing stuff like that, everything seems to vibrate a little bit.... Anybody else noticing this?
[23:36] <Org-Mode> late 90's onetinsoldier
[23:36] <owen1__> onetinsoldier: do i need to install mesa-utils?
[23:36] <stan> kira: 'vibrate' ?
[23:36] <owen1__> onetinsoldier: The program 'glxinfo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: ....
[23:36] <onetinsoldier> owen1__: ok, i think it may be from the mid-90's, but anyway... it's ancient and that's why games or whatever are so slow for you
[23:37] <GodfatherofEire> Anybody know how to modify the keybindings for a specific keyboard, when you dont know the key value of a specific key?
[23:37] <stan> owen1__, what video card do you have?
[23:37] <Org-Mode> yep either way that vid card is ultra antique for today's games
[23:37] <onetinsoldier> Org-Mode: ahhh, ok, roger
[23:37] <owen1__> onetinsoldier: it used to be fast. i installed the command-line version of ubuntu and now it's slow.
[23:37] <stan> ah.. an mx 440 isnt HORRIBLE.
[23:37] <owen1__> stan: GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x
[23:37] <rabidweezle> now I have an ancient vid card
[23:38] <rabidweezle> radeon mobility m7
[23:38] <hashbrow1> dasei: did you get my last couple of messages?
[23:38] <stan> owen1__, it should play tuxracer at 640x480  ok :)
[23:38] <stan> owen1__, or quake 1
[23:38] <allegra_1983> hi! i've problems with downloading dlc-files. i've the latest version of JDownloader 0.4.088
[23:38] <rabidweezle> I'm compiling quakeforge right now
[23:38] <onetinsoldier> stan: the mx 400, at the time, was known for being one of the worst, most lethargic nvidia cards you could get, and that was for it's time. it's time has past
[23:38] <onetinsoldier> err, 440
[23:38] <Vladi> ola Alex
[23:38] <owen1__> stan: onetinsoldier : how to verify it's being used?
[23:38] <stan> onetinsoldier, no doubt.. but my TNT2 played quake 1 just fine.
[23:39] <rapha> Hi all!
[23:39] <Vladi> good somebody can talk to me???
[23:39] <rabidweezle> hi vladi
[23:39] <rapha> How can I make usb-creator recognize an external USB harddisk?
[23:39] <kop> try getting dual head to work w/ G450 Matrox 32MB in intrepid .... that's  ancient
[23:39] <Vladi> i'helllo how are you?
[23:39] <nickrud> Vladi, what's up? Chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[23:39] <rabidweezle> mine's a 16 meg video card
[23:40] <rabidweezle> :(
[23:40] <allegra_1983> hi vladi. i'm fine but downloading files makes me crazy *gg*
[23:40] <Roey> hello
[23:40] <Vladi> where yo from?
[23:40] <onetinsoldier> owen1__: well, you are using the nv_drv driver, and not the vesa driver, so that much is good. but i doubt you can get direct rendering working on it. but i could be wrong
[23:40] <Roey> I rebooted and I can't get any sound working.
[23:40] <Roey> what is the issue here???
[23:40] <Roey> I know it's a problem for a lot of people..
[23:40] <allegra_1983> austria
[23:40] <owen1__> onetinsoldier: r u sure it's being detected by ubuntu?
[23:40] <Vladi> hello allegra where you from?
[23:40] <GodfatherofEire> Roey, have you checked your sound configs?
[23:41] <DasEi>  hashbrow1:yes, but I'm busy for few minutes, brb
[23:41] <owen1__> onetinsoldier: i used the command-line install of ubuntu. the bare-bone.
[23:41] <allegra_1983> i'm from austria
[23:41] <onetinsoldier> owen1__: even if you get have or get direct rending working, the card is just so old now
[23:41] <kop> rabidweezle, congrats , for even having it work in ubuntu , much older and you would be using NetBSD :-)
[23:41] <mickster04> anybody know if there is a rar extractor available for ubuntu/
[23:41] <Vladi> i sorry
[23:41] <Roey> GodfatherofEire:  which ones specifically?
[23:41] <owen1__> onetinsoldier: got it. any recommandations for newer card?
[23:41] <kewsh> Can anyone point me to info or help me with flash 10 not working in firefox 3.0.5 ...it hasnt worked ever since it updated via update manager
[23:42] <allegra_1983> in the central of europe
[23:42] <rabidweezle> arg
[23:42] <LTL> mickster04: apt-get unrar
[23:42] <allegra_1983> neighbor of germany
[23:42] <Mageiriki-me-bas> how can i view 3gp videos on ubuntu 8.10?
[23:42] <onetinsoldier> owen1__: i'm not an nvidia user or remember their model names all that well, but at least something like a 9800GS
[23:42] <sfer21> Mageiriki-me-bas: will vlc play them?
[23:42] <aaroninfidel_> anyone here using ubuntu/debian on a macbook pro?
[23:42] <mickster04> lol sorry to ask:S
[23:43] <Roey> GodfatherofEire1:  I get this:  http://pastebin.com/m77920f82
[23:43] <kewsh> Can anyone point me to info or help me with flash 10 not working in firefox 3.0.5 ...it hasnt worked ever since it updated via update manager
[23:44] <allegra_1983> hi
[23:44] <GodfatherofEire1> Roey, sorry, cant help you with Jack audio server or whatever its called, I never got it working on here either
[23:44] <Mageiriki-me-bas> sfer, no!
[23:44] <stan> owen1__, what sort of games do you WANT to play?
[23:44] <onetinsoldier> kewsh: what is the output of the following -->  lsb_release -r && uname -m
[23:45] <Roey> GodfatherofEire1:  ok
[23:45] <Roey> it's not Jack though
[23:45] <Roey> I don't know what it is
[23:45] <runescapemastr55> can you guys help me with telnet?
[23:45] <allegra_1983> xxx
[23:45] <owen1__> onetinsoldier: 8.10 i686
[23:45] <stan> runescapemastr55, if you ask a question
[23:45] <stan> owen1__, what sort of games do you want to play?
[23:45] <owen1__> stan: 2d games like www.teeworlds.com
[23:45] <runescapemastr55> what is the telnet shutdown command?
[23:45] <kewsh> i have ibex i686
[23:45] <stan> is teeworlds.com a flash game?
[23:46] <GodfatherofEire1> Roey, says its Jack, so I dont know whats goin on there, sorry
[23:46] <owen1__> stan: no
[23:46] <stan> runescapemastr55, telnet is a protocol... it doesnt have commands?
[23:46] <runescapemastr55> i kno shutdown /r -f but that olny restarts
[23:46] <kewsh> onetinsoldier: 8.10 i686
[23:46] <Roey> GodfatherofEire1:  and then it tries a bunch of other drivers
[23:46] <stan> owen1__, is teeworlds a flash game?
[23:46] <rapha> How can I make usb-creator recognize an external USB harddisk?
[23:46] <Roey> GodfatherofEire1:   thanks though
[23:46] <stan> runescapemastr55, shutdown now
[23:46] <owen1__> stan: really cute shooting game. 2d and multiplayer.
[23:46] <CapaH> Is anyone here familiar with bind/named/dns servers? I have set up a new dns server and when I try to change my registrar settings to use the new dns server, it complains that: "It does not appear the nameservers you entered have the correct type of DNS record setup" - Anyone know what may be wrong here?
[23:46] <runescapemastr55> what?
[23:46] <owen1__> stan: no flash.
[23:46] <stan> owen1__, then your video card is fine ... no 3d card will make flash run any faster really.
[23:46] <onetinsoldier> owen1__: ok, i don't know how to help with flash for the 32-bit architecture. i just know how to fix it for 64-bit really
[23:47] <owen1__> stan: i know! that's why i am surprised that's it's so slow!
[23:47] <mickster04> LTL even sudo apt-get unrar doesn't work...
[23:47] <owen1__> onetinsoldier: no problem. thanks.
[23:47] <stan> owen1__, what cpu do you have? how much ram?
[23:47]  * runescapemastr55 is now known as kissmypoop
[23:47] <onetinsoldier> owen1__: never mind that, i had wrong guy
[23:47] <kewsh> so is everyone having probelsm with flash?
[23:47] <rapha> That's a joke?! In Ubuntu 8.10 I can't disable auto-mounting of devices anymore?!?!???
[23:47] <onetinsoldier> kewsh: ok, sorry. i don't know how to help with flash for the 32-bit architecture. i just know how to fix it for 64-bit really
[23:47] <stan> kewsh, someone in here yesterday had an issue w/ full screen flash video on his amd machine.. whats your problem/
[23:48] <owen1__> stan: 1.5 gig ram and 2.2 cpu (i think)
[23:48] <five> when i boot ubuntu ibed live cd i get walpaper and a mouse
[23:48] <LTL> mickster04: sudo apt-get install unrar # check enabled repositories if that doesnt work.
[23:48] <kewsh> stan: it doesnt load anything...just a blank box where flash objects should be
[23:48] <kewsh> stan: ive tried removing it and installing manually
[23:48] <stan> kewsh, do you have adobe flash installed?
[23:48] <five> ubuntu ibex*
[23:48] <kewsh> and all that
[23:48] <owen1__> stan: i used to play games like flightgear (3d flight simulation) and it was decent.
[23:48] <kewsh>     File name: libflashplayer.so
[23:48] <kewsh>     Shockwave Flash 10.0 r15
[23:49] <stan> owen1__,  yea.. your GF MX 440 is a shitty card.. but it should do OK if you dont push it
[23:49] <owen1__> stan: after installing ubuntu from the alternate cd, i have issues.
[23:49] <mickster04> LTL sorted:D
[23:49] <Brack10> Hi there
[23:49] <kylezoa> hello Brack10
[23:49] <Brack10> has anyone successfully installed server 2008 standard core with the vbox extensions? 2.1.0 non-free
[23:49] <owen1__> stan: teeworlds is not a fancy game. it should be ok.
[23:49] <Brack10> I'm having problems and #vbox is no help
[23:50] <kewsh> having no flash is making me want to format and install windows xp :p
[23:50] <stan> kewsh, what are you waiting for?
[23:50] <rapha> How can I make usb-creator recognize an external USB harddisk?
[23:50] <kewsh> lol
[23:50] <downhill_> go ahead, kewsh
[23:50] <stan> owen1__, i just installed teeworlds on my laptop...
[23:50] <downhill_> don't let the door hit you on the way out.
[23:50] <stan> owen1__, its a centrino 1.2ghz low power laptop w/ an intel video card
[23:50] <stan> owen1__, and it was smooth @ 1024x768
[23:51] <owen1__> stan: u can play with me on the laptop...it's cool game.
[23:51] <kewsh> ubuntu fags hate
[23:51] <onetinsoldier> kewsh: tlet us see...  dpkg -l '*flash*' | awk '/^ii/ {print $3}'
[23:51] <onetinsoldier> let*
[23:51] <owen1__> stan: yeah.
[23:51] <stan> ubuntu has no position on homosexuality.
[23:51] <Brack10> lol
[23:51] <LTL> kewsh: you should be using flashplugin-nonfree
[23:51] <stan> intel 855GM video lol
[23:51] <bobbob1016> For some reason I lost all my side panel shortcuts in nautilus.  Now whenever I add them, they disappear.  Any ideas?
[23:51] <Fjss> where can I get drivers for my intel 965 gpu?
[23:52] <kewsh> 10.0.15.3-1hardy1
[23:52] <kewsh> 1.3.10a~snapshot20080611-0ubuntu2
[23:52] <kewsh> 3.6.1240-2
[23:52] <downhill_> #vmware couldn't help me here - could somebody help me with this backtrace? http://slexy.org/raw/s21nqPLCJy I found a bug report related to it, but the package the maintainer suggests doesn't exist anymore apparently.
[23:52] <FloodBot1> kewsh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:52] <rapha> Does nobody here use USB Creator with external harddrives?
[23:52] <owen1__> stan: that's why i am shocked with the movement. i actually did'nt even make it to play. i am in the config screen and it's also slow!
[23:52] <kewsh> sry flod
[23:52] <rapha> Hello, does somebody hear me?
[23:53] <downhill_> rapha; no
[23:53] <onetinsoldier> kewsh: a few diffierent version of flash there?  pastebin the results of -->  dpkg -l '*flash*'
[23:53] <rapha> Friendly.
[23:53] <downhill_> you must be new to IRC...
[23:53] <stan> owen1__, not sure what to tell ya :(
[23:55] <rapha> Well, I don't even get told "sorry we can't help you" :-(
[23:55] <sfer21> !repeat | rapha
[23:55] <stan> rapha, no one here gets paid...
[23:55] <LTL> rapha: speak dude, we 'hear' you
[23:55] <rapha> kk i see :-)
[23:55] <rapha> sry
[23:55] <stan> rapha,  we are just like you.
[23:55] <hashbrow1> dasei: you still here?
[23:55] <terminhell> Fresh install of xubuntu, freshly updated, activated the restricted Broadcom drivers and things still not working. Ironicly it seems like the wireless device is ON via the LED....
[23:55] <rapha> sfer21: Already googled a lot and didn't find anything so I thought I'd come here
[23:55] <stan> rapha, i came in here yesterday with some stpid issue.. and have helped people here and there as i idle here..
[23:55] <Flap77> ðóññêèå åñòü?
[23:55] <sfer21> rapha: what's your problem?
[23:55] <owen1__> stan: maybe it's the full screen mode. let me try to make it smaller.
[23:56] <genii-around> !ru | Flap77
[23:56] <stan> owen1__, i am running full screen.. i am using an 'intel' driver... are you running the 'nv' driver?
[23:56] <youngcoder> rapha, what is your wuestions?
[23:56] <rjune__> ok, so I have a Sansa, I'm using id3 to fill out the mp3 tags. yet when I put the files on the sansa, it reads some *other* tag that isn't being set with id3, does anybody have any idea what's up?
[23:56] <rapha> youngcoder: sfer21: I want to use an external USB Harddisk for Ubuntu. I installed it there but that only works in the computer I used for the installation. Now I want to use the USB Creator but it doesn't recognize the harddisk as a USB stick...
[23:57] <youngcoder> holy crap i need typing tutor
[23:57] <sfer21> rapha: USB creator? is this to boot ubuntu from or something?
[23:57] <stan> rjune_, No -- but there is ID3 and ID3v2 .. and an mp3 can have BOTH sets of tags.
[23:57] <rapha> sfer21: you can transfer an .iso image onto a USB stick with it
[23:57] <rjune__> stan: Ah
[23:57] <stan> rjune_, make sure you are deleting the tags you dont want.
[23:57] <rjune__> that could be it
[23:57] <DasEi>  hashbrow1:back again, yes
[23:58] <stan> rjune_, I know winamp (under wine) shows them both... other than that .. i dont know how to edit them both easily...
[23:58] <rjune__> stan: thanks for the tip, I'll check into it
[23:58] <DasEi> you still stuck at cmd-line and can't get to desktop after installing a video -driver ..
[23:58] <owen1__> stan: i don't know what driver i am running. when i type: lspci -v | grep VGA  i get: GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x  does it mean i am actually using it?
[23:58] <stan> owen1__, no.
[23:58] <tim167> hello, problem with my laptop: i connect a regular keyboard to use the numpad, but, eventhough 'numlock' is on, instead of entering numbers it moves the mouse. how can i fix this ? thanks!
[23:58] <genii-around> !info v2strip
[23:59]  * genii-around sips
[23:59] <DasEi> you still stuck at cmd-line and can't get to desktop after installing a video -driver .., hashbrow1
[23:59] <hashbrow1> dasei: yes
[23:59] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> 0.o
[23:59] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Whats happened now hashbrow1?
[23:59] <stan> owen1__, I scanned my /var/log/xorg.log file :(