/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/12/27/#xubuntu.txt

forcesmerry christmas!00:05
linuxman410i turned a old dell into good computer with xubuntu01:11
linuxman410dell dimension 4400 runs xubuntu good i bought computer for a couple of bucks from work01:14
linuxman410this room is awful quiet01:15
kebhappy boxing day forces01:24
forces:P01:26
jon_high9000is there a way to install on Xubuntu 8.10 ?01:33
jon_high9000gfxboot01:33
forces??01:35
forceswhat is gfxboot?01:35
jon_high9000it is a spruced up version of grub with colors sorta like compiz in a sense01:37
jon_high9000it has been included in ubuntu since gutsy gibbon i believe.01:38
forcesso..01:39
forcessudo apt-get install package01:39
jon_high9000there are like two pakages on the ubuntu repos. installation is somewhat difficult so far.01:41
asdf-what is the best way to deactivate a wifi pcmcia card and removing it?01:42
asdf-just deactivating it in Hardware Drivers?01:42
jon_high9000<forces> just go to synaptic package manager click on Search and type gfxboot01:44
jon_high9000there are more instructions although vague, regarding how to install gfxboot.01:46
jon_high9000it is found on http://ubuntuforums.org/01:46
jon_high9000<forces> i found it somewhat helpful. up to a point.01:47
jon_high9000parts were left out.01:48
forces:O01:48
forcesjon_high9000, sudo apt-get install gfxboot01:49
jon_high9000(parts of) instructions were left out. i meant.01:50
jon_high9000six or seven packages should be listed.01:51
KillerOrcaI get a bluescreen on boot after cloning my hdd, any ideas?01:52
forcesjon_high9000, http://tinyurl.com/76shlh01:52
forcesKillerOrca, in win?01:52
KillerOrcaforces, no in xubuntu01:52
KillerOrcaforces, the screen is literally a blue color but it isn't the BSOD, might as well be though01:53
forceswhat is the last action that you did?01:54
KillerOrcaforces, Well I cloned the drive using clonezilla, and that went fine but there was an error cloning the swap partition, I booted it up had to re-install grub, thought I did, when I boot it gives me a bunch of text then goes to a blue color screen with a cursor and does nothing else01:56
forcestry less resolution01:57
KillerOrcaforces, how would I do that if it won't boot properly?01:57
forcesedit menu in grub01:57
forcestry to join in single mode01:57
KillerOrcaforces, I don't know how to do either of those things01:58
forcesT_T01:58
forcesgo to grub menu01:58
forcesthen press B01:59
forcesI think is b01:59
forcesor e01:59
forcesedit01:59
forcesthen add at final "single"01:59
KillerOrcaforces, how do I get to the grub menu though?01:59
forcesyou dont have grub menu?02:00
KillerOrcaforces, well if I did have it where would it be02:00
stwestonhello, all.02:03
stwestonfor some reason I don't know which file is causing an infinite loop in my file manager windows opening up.02:04
KillerOrcaforces, ok I got to grub but I can't find this final line02:04
stwestonmeaning, they make a loop when opening up02:04
stwestonso that they never stop until I press alt-F202:04
forcesKillerOrca, you have to write that02:05
forcesnot find02:05
KillerOrcaok, so I see three lines, root; kernel;initrd  and after the last one I add the word "single" on it's own line?02:06
KillerOrcaforces, wait, I see four lines, the last one is "quiet", still do the previous thing though right?02:09
forces:O02:10
forcesonly add "single" at final02:10
forcesor if you already have another line with single mode02:10
forcesjoin there02:10
KillerOrcaforces, what about the quiet term though?02:10
forcesignore02:11
KillerOrcaforces, when I add the line single then return to the previous menu it gets erased02:11
forcesI think so, but if not true, you can eraser later02:12
KillerOrcaforces, since I cloned the install from one drive to another do I have to do anything with UUIDs?02:13
forcesin fstab?02:13
KillerOrcaforces, at all, I;ve heard of UUID but have no idea what to do about it02:14
forcesif you change something there, in /etc/fstab, you have to restore02:14
KillerOrcawell I changed hard drives so would I have to do anything?02:15
forcesI have never done a clone02:15
forcesI dont know how works02:15
forcesyou have one HDD02:15
forcesright?02:15
forcesand them02:15
forcesyou "copy" another hdd02:16
forcesright?02:16
KillerOrcawell right now it isn't working so I wouldn't reccomend it02:16
KillerOrcacorrect02:16
Cody_DuncanHello friends.  Bit of an emergency.  I just installed Xubuntu 8.04 on a Dell Dimension 2400, and it started up all fine, but the mouse is not working.  Any takers?02:16
KillerOrcaCody_Duncan, if using a trackpad try a usb mouse02:16
KillerOrcaforces, before I cloned it I had it set to autologin, think that may be the culprit?02:17
forcesCody_Duncan, maybe the mouse is broken02:17
Cody_DuncanIt is an older machine.  It is not a usb mouse, but rather an older plug (I don't know what they are called).  But I am using a standard mouse with it.02:17
forcesKillerOrca, I dont think so02:17
KillerOrcaCody_Duncan, I would look to try a different mouse or that mouse on another machine02:18
Cody_DuncanThe mouse is not broken, as I was using it in Windows just a couple hours ago.  This my Grandpa's computer, and it was pretty much toast, so (while this may sound like a bad idea to some) I decided to put Xubuntu on it, to run lighter and protect him from...bad things.02:19
linuxman410anyone here know if 256 is enough memory for xubuntu02:19
KillerOrcaforces, well it won't boot properly so I may just re-clone02:19
KillerOrcalinuxman410, depends02:19
linuxman410depends on what02:19
KillerOrcaCody_Duncan, well you might want to try a new one anyways02:19
Cody_DuncanWhen I say "toast" I mean that those with access to the computer when it had windows didn't really know the internet etiquette required to avoid screwing up the machine.02:19
KillerOrcalinuxman410, on what you want to be able to do02:20
linuxman410just to surf net and email and watch videos on hulu.com02:20
Cody_DuncanI do not have access to another mouse.  I am working on location, with my lappy on my right, and the oldy on the left.  Get creative.02:20
KillerOrcaCody_Duncan, if the mouse worked in the livecd it should still work02:20
KillerOrcalinuxman410, hulu may be a problem02:21
Cody_DuncanI installed from the alternate disk, as this thing is short on RAM (128 megs)02:21
linuxman410how much more ram do i need02:21
linuxman410will 256 more do it02:21
KillerOrcaCody_Duncan, what is the machine again?02:21
KillerOrcalinuxman410, it is a flash issue, not a ram one in this case02:22
Cody_DuncanDimension 240002:22
linuxman410ok  does flash sometime not work rite on xubuntu02:23
KillerOrcalinuxman410, from what I understand it02:23
linuxman410cause it works fine on my ubuntu machine02:23
KillerOrca's hard to get it to install right 100% of the time02:23
linuxman410ok02:24
KillerOrcaCody_Duncan, I am not sure what to do, i would join the ubuntu channel and ask, more people there02:25
forceslinuxman410, for me 256 is enough02:25
forcesI have 256 DIMM pc100 and I can see videos on youtube perfectly02:26
KillerOrcaforces, still won;t boot properly any more ideas?02:26
forcesKillerOrca, windows user idea02:27
forcesreinstall xubuntu02:27
forces:P02:27
KillerOrcaso desperately trying to avoid that, I just want this clone to work02:28
linuxman410i keep tring to install something and it says synaptic is running but i do not see it how do i turn it off02:30
forcesse fue02:33
linuxman410how can i see if synaptic is running and how do i stop it02:38
Odd-rationale!aptfix02:38
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »02:38
forceslinuxman410, reboot02:38
forces:P02:38
linuxman410i rebooted but it still says tht it is running02:40
miosotask manager could have same option tick as  icon box to show only minimized applications02:40
Odd-rationalelinuxman410: did you try the aptfix? above^02:41
linuxman410trying rite now02:42
linuxman410thanks the fix above worked now i have flash installed and can watch hulu02:48
Odd-rationale!yay02:48
ubottuGlad you made it! :-)02:48
linuxman410i done converted 2 of my neighbors to ubuntu and xubuntu now trying to get work to change to it too02:49
linuxman410they had old windows 98 machines linux worked great on them02:50
forcesthat's a great job02:58
* forces converted much people in ubunters02:59
forces:P02:59
ilmobhello03:14
forcesilmob, o703:17
ilmob07?03:18
ilmober o7?03:18
ilmobbasic quiestion I'm sure but anyone know how to add to start up? I tried finding System/Preferences/Session but I don't seem to have those options03:23
bad-wirein settings>settings03:33
bad-wireso ilmopb did you get your wifi to work in the end?03:36
ilmoboh yeah lol it took forever but its good now03:37
ilmobI wanted to give upbut I'm happy I didn't03:37
ilmobhmm I dont have a settings menu03:37
ilmobweird03:37
ilmobis it in Xfce4 Appfiner?03:38
bad-wireI have mine in the menu: applications > settings > settings03:40
ilmobor maybe is there a ways to do it through terminal? I find that I don't have the same menus as other people03:40
ilmobyeah in applications I don't have a settings menu lol03:40
bad-wireok, need to find the cli way to start that then gimme a mninute03:40
ilmobthanks!03:41
ilmobI am slowly starting to see why everyone likes linux you can do a lot more with it. this machine runs so much faster than when it had windows :)03:43
craigbass1976So I've just joined the ranks... My laptop is getting too old to run GNOME and KDE, and XFCE is quite a sight better than it was when I first tried it (Fedora1 I think)03:48
bad-wireilmob haven't managed to worked it out yet03:49
ilmobno worries03:49
craigbass1976After the fresh install, it said I have a broadcom wireless card, and was nice enough to install the drivers for me.  We'll see how that goes.  Anyone had any luck?03:49
ilmobI'm searching around as well03:49
ilmobthanks for looking into it03:50
bad-wireI did last time I installed a laptop with a  craigbass197603:50
craigbass1976Oh my God... That was so easy.03:50
ilmobI had issues initially lol03:50
ilmobbut it worked out and I'm chatting to you now lol03:51
ilmobnow just some minor tweaks and she will be perfect03:51
* ilmob pet pets her picturebook03:51
bad-wireyou aure had issues ilmob03:53
* bad-wire is aka sinbox 03:54
bad-wiresure*03:54
ilmobhey hey!03:54
ilmobyes I did lol03:54
ilmobI wanted to cry03:54
ilmobbut now that everything is working I'm learning lots :)03:55
ilmobI should really be doing more vacation type things though lol03:56
bad-wireI was thinking maytbexfce-mcs-manager  but that's the backend part not the gui :(03:57
bad-wiremaybe look into fluxbox or windowmaker next ilmob : that will quite possibly make you go bald  ;-)03:58
ilmoblol I thought that happened to dudes maybe if I rip out all my hair lol03:59
bad-wireit say how to open it here I think ilmob : http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.0/manuals/xfce-mcs-manager03:59
bad-wirethat's what I meant yep03:59
ilmoboo03:59
ilmobthis looks like a good resource too thanks!! I'll review04:00
bad-wirestraight from the horse's mouth04:00
bad-wire;-)04:00
bad-wireyou could also try: sudo update-menu04:01
bad-wireand see if that helps04:01
ilmobhonestly I'm glad I didn't give up though lol it really injected some new life into this hardware. If I knew better before I wouldn't have bought my other laptop lol04:01
ilmobcool thanks!04:01
shadow98is there anyway to go back a week or 2 in the irc chat history..or is available via google somehow..04:17
shadow98i posted a solution to a problem in the channel about a week ago...im having same problem with another jump drive..but i can't figure out the solution04:17
shadow98i pretty sure i posted how i fixed the problem04:18
bad-wiregilook for IRSeek shadow98 then on their site search for the nickname you were using04:19
bad-wirego look*04:20
bad-wirewww.irseek.com04:20
bad-wirealso shadow98 I know the ubuntu channel is archived so this one might be as well04:26
shadow98where do you find the archived channel04:26
Odd-rationale!log | shadow9804:31
ubottushadow98: Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/04:31
sinboxIRSeekbot is archiving it as well on that URL I gave you shadow9804:32
sinboxoh04:32
sinboxthe easy way, thanks Odd-rationale04:32
Odd-rationalenp :D04:32
shadow98can't seem to find my posts...04:42
shadow98hehehe04:42
sinboxbit of a bummer that, did you check on  www.irseek.com ?04:45
craigbass1976I'm trying to set up LAMP on my new xub box.  I don't think the php install is taking.  WHen I go to localhost, I get prompted to open or save the file index.php05:04
shadow98i found it05:08
shadow98http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=309617005:08
shadow98http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/12/15/%23ubuntu.html05:09
shadow98on the 15th05:09
shadow98just fixed my problem again...with new jump drive that i have...05:10
shadow98thanks for you guys help in finding the archive...05:10
shadow98gotta reboot to fix this problem...laterz05:10
ilmobbye bye all!05:36
forcesbye05:36
ubuntuis there anyway to easily connect to windows shares in xubuntu05:41
forcesubuntu, use samba05:42
bad-wireeasier to see the windows file sthan the other way around tho9ugj05:43
bad-wireanyway, night night all05:44
ubuntuim installing samba now05:44
ubuntushouldnt there be an option under places to connec to server05:45
ubuntuhmm05:50
ubuntuanybody give me a hand with this one..05:58
moj0risinghi, everyone. Quick question: Can you tell me how to change my password in the xfce keyring manager? I checked the forums and google but can't seem to find it for some reason.06:30
forceskeyring manager?06:35
moj0risingyeah. think I found a way, forces. I renamed ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring06:42
moj0risinggoing to reboot and make sure it comes up like I want it to (automatically or at least prompts for password, which I'll leave blank so it hopefully later automatically logs in)06:43
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klopapierhey there...12:03
klopapiercan somebody help me with some issues?12:03
klopapieri'm kinda newb12:03
klopapieri run xubuntu 8.10 and recently my task bars got lost12:04
klopapieri managed to run the manually12:04
klopapierbut i gotta do that everytime i log in12:04
klopapierhow could i automatize it?12:05
klopapieris there any file to edit or somethin?12:06
easotokrhi guys I´m facing problems with my the latam notebook's keyboard, can someone give a hand, I tried everything I found in internet to try to fixe it12:16
easotokrfacing problems with latam keyboard, tried everything no result, please help12:27
SaggyCheers, can anyone point me in the direction of a checksum or similar for checking the Hardy Heron .iso?13:56
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WDCHow do I add more Desktops to XFCE?17:06
sinboxapplications > settings > settings17:08
TheSheepWDC: settings->setting manager->desktops and margins17:08
WDCI guess an X restart would be required?17:09
sinboxnope17:09
WDCIt didn't work autmaticlly.17:09
WDCIt said I only had one to start with, and I have two.17:09
sinboxhmmm worked for me imediatelly when I used it17:10
WDCFor the record, this is Ubuntu with XFCE installed17:10
WDCI made the unfortuante decision to originally use GNOME :)17:10
WDCSorry i gotta go17:12
WDCthanks for yall's time17:13
^anak^^jalanan^^!chk 4491389900080701 1110 44617:51
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:51
pist0l-fishI just put xubuntu with 8.10 computer and I'm having trouble compiling some code. For some reason, things that should be in the c++ STL are bringing up errors (such as: "error: ‘strcmp’ was not declared in this scope"). Can anyone help?18:05
Odd-rationalepist0l-fish: did you install build-essential already?18:10
pist0l-fishOdd-rationale: I did not, is that an apt-get package?18:11
Odd-rationaleyes.18:11
Odd-rationale!compile18:11
ubottuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)18:11
pist0l-fishOdd-rationale: installed it, still getting the same error18:12
Odd-rationalehmm... what are you trying to compile?18:13
pist0l-fishOdd-rationale: something I wrote18:13
Odd-rationalewith gcc?18:14
pist0l-fishg++18:14
Odd-rationalei don't know a whole lot about gcc myself... i just started learning C...18:15
pist0l-fishah... I know a whole lot about the language, but clearly not enough about the OS environment I'm using18:15
slow-motionhi18:27
kaiser10123how big is free xubuntu install and has anyone tried in on a dell mini 918:30
cubevanbabygood afternoon (or whatever your respective time is depending on where you are in this world)18:39
kaiser10123hello18:40
Odd-rationalekaiser10123: i beleive the default installation of xubuntu is like < 3 gb18:53
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racemehi all... I've got a problem with last updates I've just done with intrepid: each time i log with gdm sessions ends within seconds... xsession-errors contains: libxfcegui4-WARNING: ICE I/O Error22:13
sinboxsorry am on 7.10 still here22:22
racemein fact when i log in, xfce launches many processes: hundreds of gnome-volume-manager, hundreds of notification applets, etc.22:28
sinboxvery weird, have you any other desktop or window manager installed you could try and log into to see if the problem persists?22:32
racemesinbox: when i try startx from console then gdm launches and works pl22:33
racemeworks ok22:33
racemesinbox: i tried to remove ~/.cache ~/.ICE* /tmp/.X* /tmp/.I*22:34
racemesinbox: after that, i can login and a dialog says "your session lasted less than 10 seconds it may be a disk space probleme' (this is not the case)... I can use the computer if I ignore the dialog. But when I click OK then the sessions ends as if X has been shut down22:35
sinboxah well, if launching it from the console works OK then it can't be that bad a problem, unfortunately I have no idea what needs doing. You might want to ask in #ubuntu as well, it's a lot busier than here22:35
racemesinbox: sorry I exprimed myself bad: from console with startx gnome is launched and works ok22:36
sinboxoh so in gnome you're ok but not in XFCE22:37
racemesinbox: yes... just after the reboot following an upgrade22:37
racemetrying startxfce4 from console...22:38
racemeok from console same punition: is is launching hundreds of each processes22:39
sinboxnot got any suggestions I'm afraid, have you looked at the forums to see if anyone had the same problems?22:39
racemesinbox: all the answers related to more or less similar problems are: delete .ICE and .cache; or remove and recreate the user22:40
racemebut i don't want to loose my user settings22:40
sinboxyeah bit of a bummer if you customised it a lot.22:42
sinboxdo you remember what the updates actually were, maybe one of them didn't go through properly and messed everything up?22:42
racemei use apt from command line and everything where ok.22:43
racemei just logged with an old user and it is working... so it is related to user's home files22:44
sinboxright, what you could do is backup your user's /hom/ then delete him and recreate him and then put the old files from your backup one by one til you find which one is creating the problem22:45
sinbox/home/ not /hom/22:45
racemesinbox: this is exactly what i am doing :)22:45
racemesinbox: and it works with a blank home22:45
sinboxtedious but it should do it in the end :) I wish you lots of patience22:46
racemesinbox: ok i'll have occupation for my spare time tomorrow22:46
racemesinbox: thanks for help22:46
* sinbox didn't actually do anything22:47
sinbox;-)22:47
racemesinbox: advices always help to find things you may miss22:47
sinboxwell, if you happen to know anything about these softwares I need some help too:  ices-0.4  or  liveice-sn04  or icegenerator-0.5.5-pre222:48
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racemesinbox: sorry i don't know ice22:49
xarchiels22:49
T`2hi, anyone here using xfapplet?22:59
knomeyes.22:59
T`2knome, the weather applet seems to not save the location info across logouts for me23:01
T`2knome, do you have a similar issue?23:01
knomeT`2, i don't use the weather applet.23:02
T`2knome, ah ok23:02
T`2knome, do you happen to use anything like screenlets?23:03
knomeT`2, nope.23:03
owen9914sorry to interrupt how do you get a programme that requires administrative privileges to automaticly start up after login?23:06
TheSheepowen9914: is it a gui program?23:06
owen9914yes it is23:06
TheSheepwhy does it need admin rights then? :/23:07
owen9914its an antivirus programme23:07
TheSheepthere are no viruses for linux on the wild XD23:08
owen9914i know its just that this computer will be used by people in my house which are not very experienced with computer.just wanted antivirus to run so it would stop downloading of infected files. i know the chances of a virus are low i just want to make sure like23:12
TheSheepI'm not sure it has to run as root to do that23:13
TheSheepnot familiar with antivirus software for linux23:14
owen9914the sheep: thanks for trying to help anyway. the only os's i have ever used are windows 95-vista and mac8-10. i am very new to linux. sorry for bothering you.23:20
TheSheepowen9914: you're not bothering, maybe someone else will know23:21
TheSheepowen9914: usually the root-needing programs run as daemons (services) and only have gui to access their config23:22
sinboxwhich program were you thinking of owen9914 ?23:24
sinboxclamAV?23:24
owen9914yeah it is23:26
owen9914thesheep: it says on the site it uses daemons yet in the services menu its not listed and it doesnt seem to be starting up. i might try to reinstall it23:30
TheSheepowen9914: I think they have a channel23:30
TheSheepowen9914: you could ask on #clamav23:30
owen9914the sheep: thanks i owe you one.23:31

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