[00:05] <forces> merry christmas!
[01:11] <linuxman410> i turned a old dell into good computer with xubuntu
[01:14] <linuxman410> dell dimension 4400 runs xubuntu good i bought computer for a couple of bucks from work
[01:15] <linuxman410> this room is awful quiet
[01:24] <keb> happy boxing day forces
[01:26] <forces> :P
[01:33] <jon_high9000> is there a way to install on Xubuntu 8.10 ?
[01:33] <jon_high9000> gfxboot
[01:35] <forces> ??
[01:35] <forces> what is gfxboot?
[01:37] <jon_high9000> it is a spruced up version of grub with colors sorta like compiz in a sense
[01:38] <jon_high9000> it has been included in ubuntu since gutsy gibbon i believe.
[01:39] <forces> so..
[01:39] <forces> sudo apt-get install package
[01:41] <jon_high9000> there are like two pakages on the ubuntu repos. installation is somewhat difficult so far.
[01:42] <asdf-> what is the best way to deactivate a wifi pcmcia card and removing it?
[01:42] <asdf-> just deactivating it in Hardware Drivers?
 just go to synaptic package manager click on Search and type gfxboot
[01:46] <jon_high9000> there are more instructions although vague, regarding how to install gfxboot.
[01:46] <jon_high9000> it is found on http://ubuntuforums.org/
 i found it somewhat helpful. up to a point.
[01:48] <jon_high9000> parts were left out.
[01:48] <forces> :O
[01:49] <forces> jon_high9000, sudo apt-get install gfxboot
[01:50] <jon_high9000> (parts of) instructions were left out. i meant.
[01:51] <jon_high9000> six or seven packages should be listed.
[01:52] <KillerOrca> I get a bluescreen on boot after cloning my hdd, any ideas?
[01:52] <forces> jon_high9000, http://tinyurl.com/76shlh
[01:52] <forces> KillerOrca, in win?
[01:52] <KillerOrca> forces, no in xubuntu
[01:53] <KillerOrca> forces, the screen is literally a blue color but it isn't the BSOD, might as well be though
[01:54] <forces> what is the last action that you did?
[01:56] <KillerOrca> forces, Well I cloned the drive using clonezilla, and that went fine but there was an error cloning the swap partition, I booted it up had to re-install grub, thought I did, when I boot it gives me a bunch of text then goes to a blue color screen with a cursor and does nothing else
[01:57] <forces> try less resolution
[01:57] <KillerOrca> forces, how would I do that if it won't boot properly?
[01:57] <forces> edit menu in grub
[01:57] <forces> try to join in single mode
[01:58] <KillerOrca> forces, I don't know how to do either of those things
[01:58] <forces> T_T
[01:58] <forces> go to grub menu
[01:59] <forces> then press B
[01:59] <forces> I think is b
[01:59] <forces> or e
[01:59] <forces> edit
[01:59] <forces> then add at final "single"
[01:59] <KillerOrca> forces, how do I get to the grub menu though?
[02:00] <forces> you dont have grub menu?
[02:00] <KillerOrca> forces, well if I did have it where would it be
[02:03] <stweston> hello, all.
[02:04] <stweston> for some reason I don't know which file is causing an infinite loop in my file manager windows opening up.
[02:04] <KillerOrca> forces, ok I got to grub but I can't find this final line
[02:04] <stweston> meaning, they make a loop when opening up
[02:04] <stweston> so that they never stop until I press alt-F2
[02:05] <forces> KillerOrca, you have to write that
[02:05] <forces> not find
[02:06] <KillerOrca> ok, so I see three lines, root; kernel;initrd  and after the last one I add the word "single" on it's own line?
[02:09] <KillerOrca> forces, wait, I see four lines, the last one is "quiet", still do the previous thing though right?
[02:10] <forces> :O
[02:10] <forces> only add "single" at final
[02:10] <forces> or if you already have another line with single mode
[02:10] <forces> join there
[02:10] <KillerOrca> forces, what about the quiet term though?
[02:11] <forces> ignore
[02:11] <KillerOrca> forces, when I add the line single then return to the previous menu it gets erased
[02:12] <forces> I think so, but if not true, you can eraser later
[02:13] <KillerOrca> forces, since I cloned the install from one drive to another do I have to do anything with UUIDs?
[02:13] <forces> in fstab?
[02:14] <KillerOrca> forces, at all, I;ve heard of UUID but have no idea what to do about it
[02:14] <forces> if you change something there, in /etc/fstab, you have to restore
[02:15] <KillerOrca> well I changed hard drives so would I have to do anything?
[02:15] <forces> I have never done a clone
[02:15] <forces> I dont know how works
[02:15] <forces> you have one HDD
[02:15] <forces> right?
[02:15] <forces> and them
[02:16] <forces> you "copy" another hdd
[02:16] <forces> right?
[02:16] <KillerOrca> well right now it isn't working so I wouldn't reccomend it
[02:16] <KillerOrca> correct
[02:16] <Cody_Duncan> Hello friends.  Bit of an emergency.  I just installed Xubuntu 8.04 on a Dell Dimension 2400, and it started up all fine, but the mouse is not working.  Any takers?
[02:16] <KillerOrca> Cody_Duncan, if using a trackpad try a usb mouse
[02:17] <KillerOrca> forces, before I cloned it I had it set to autologin, think that may be the culprit?
[02:17] <forces> Cody_Duncan, maybe the mouse is broken
[02:17] <Cody_Duncan> It is an older machine.  It is not a usb mouse, but rather an older plug (I don't know what they are called).  But I am using a standard mouse with it.
[02:17] <forces> KillerOrca, I dont think so
[02:18] <KillerOrca> Cody_Duncan, I would look to try a different mouse or that mouse on another machine
[02:19] <Cody_Duncan> The mouse is not broken, as I was using it in Windows just a couple hours ago.  This my Grandpa's computer, and it was pretty much toast, so (while this may sound like a bad idea to some) I decided to put Xubuntu on it, to run lighter and protect him from...bad things.
[02:19] <linuxman410> anyone here know if 256 is enough memory for xubuntu
[02:19] <KillerOrca> forces, well it won't boot properly so I may just re-clone
[02:19] <KillerOrca> linuxman410, depends
[02:19] <linuxman410> depends on what
[02:19] <KillerOrca> Cody_Duncan, well you might want to try a new one anyways
[02:19] <Cody_Duncan> When I say "toast" I mean that those with access to the computer when it had windows didn't really know the internet etiquette required to avoid screwing up the machine.
[02:20] <KillerOrca> linuxman410, on what you want to be able to do
[02:20] <linuxman410> just to surf net and email and watch videos on hulu.com
[02:20] <Cody_Duncan> I do not have access to another mouse.  I am working on location, with my lappy on my right, and the oldy on the left.  Get creative.
[02:20] <KillerOrca> Cody_Duncan, if the mouse worked in the livecd it should still work
[02:21] <KillerOrca> linuxman410, hulu may be a problem
[02:21] <Cody_Duncan> I installed from the alternate disk, as this thing is short on RAM (128 megs)
[02:21] <linuxman410> how much more ram do i need
[02:21] <linuxman410> will 256 more do it
[02:21] <KillerOrca> Cody_Duncan, what is the machine again?
[02:22] <KillerOrca> linuxman410, it is a flash issue, not a ram one in this case
[02:22] <Cody_Duncan> Dimension 2400
[02:23] <linuxman410> ok  does flash sometime not work rite on xubuntu
[02:23] <KillerOrca> linuxman410, from what I understand it
[02:23] <linuxman410> cause it works fine on my ubuntu machine
[02:23] <KillerOrca> 's hard to get it to install right 100% of the time
[02:24] <linuxman410> ok
[02:25] <KillerOrca> Cody_Duncan, I am not sure what to do, i would join the ubuntu channel and ask, more people there
[02:25] <forces> linuxman410, for me 256 is enough
[02:26] <forces> I have 256 DIMM pc100 and I can see videos on youtube perfectly
[02:26] <KillerOrca> forces, still won;t boot properly any more ideas?
[02:27] <forces> KillerOrca, windows user idea
[02:27] <forces> reinstall xubuntu
[02:27] <forces> :P
[02:28] <KillerOrca> so desperately trying to avoid that, I just want this clone to work
[02:30] <linuxman410> i keep tring to install something and it says synaptic is running but i do not see it how do i turn it off
[02:33] <forces> se fue
[02:38] <linuxman410> how can i see if synaptic is running and how do i stop it
[02:38] <Odd-rationale> !aptfix
[02:38] <forces> linuxman410, reboot
[02:38] <forces> :P
[02:40] <linuxman410> i rebooted but it still says tht it is running
[02:40] <mioso> task manager could have same option tick as  icon box to show only minimized applications
[02:41] <Odd-rationale> linuxman410: did you try the aptfix? above^
[02:42] <linuxman410> trying rite now
[02:48] <linuxman410> thanks the fix above worked now i have flash installed and can watch hulu
[02:48] <Odd-rationale> !yay
[02:49] <linuxman410> i done converted 2 of my neighbors to ubuntu and xubuntu now trying to get work to change to it too
[02:50] <linuxman410> they had old windows 98 machines linux worked great on them
[02:58] <forces> that's a great job
[02:59]  * forces converted much people in ubunters
[02:59] <forces> :P
[03:14] <ilmob> hello
[03:17] <forces> ilmob, o7
[03:18] <ilmob> 07?
[03:18] <ilmob> er o7?
[03:23] <ilmob> basic quiestion I'm sure but anyone know how to add to start up? I tried finding System/Preferences/Session but I don't seem to have those options
[03:33] <bad-wire> in settings>settings
[03:36] <bad-wire> so ilmopb did you get your wifi to work in the end?
[03:37] <ilmob> oh yeah lol it took forever but its good now
[03:37] <ilmob> I wanted to give upbut I'm happy I didn't
[03:37] <ilmob> hmm I dont have a settings menu
[03:37] <ilmob> weird
[03:38] <ilmob> is it in Xfce4 Appfiner?
[03:40] <bad-wire> I have mine in the menu: applications > settings > settings
[03:40] <ilmob> or maybe is there a ways to do it through terminal? I find that I don't have the same menus as other people
[03:40] <ilmob> yeah in applications I don't have a settings menu lol
[03:40] <bad-wire> ok, need to find the cli way to start that then gimme a mninute
[03:41] <ilmob> thanks!
[03:43] <ilmob> I am slowly starting to see why everyone likes linux you can do a lot more with it. this machine runs so much faster than when it had windows :)
[03:48] <craigbass1976> So I've just joined the ranks... My laptop is getting too old to run GNOME and KDE, and XFCE is quite a sight better than it was when I first tried it (Fedora1 I think)
[03:49] <bad-wire> ilmob haven't managed to worked it out yet
[03:49] <ilmob> no worries
[03:49] <craigbass1976> After the fresh install, it said I have a broadcom wireless card, and was nice enough to install the drivers for me.  We'll see how that goes.  Anyone had any luck?
[03:49] <ilmob> I'm searching around as well
[03:50] <ilmob> thanks for looking into it
[03:50] <bad-wire> I did last time I installed a laptop with a  craigbass1976
[03:50] <craigbass1976> Oh my God... That was so easy.
[03:50] <ilmob> I had issues initially lol
[03:51] <ilmob> but it worked out and I'm chatting to you now lol
[03:51] <ilmob> now just some minor tweaks and she will be perfect
[03:51]  * ilmob pet pets her picturebook
[03:53] <bad-wire> you aure had issues ilmob
[03:54]  * bad-wire is aka sinbox 
[03:54] <bad-wire> sure*
[03:54] <ilmob> hey hey!
[03:54] <ilmob> yes I did lol
[03:54] <ilmob> I wanted to cry
[03:55] <ilmob> but now that everything is working I'm learning lots :)
[03:56] <ilmob> I should really be doing more vacation type things though lol
[03:57] <bad-wire> I was thinking maytbexfce-mcs-manager  but that's the backend part not the gui :(
[03:58] <bad-wire> maybe look into fluxbox or windowmaker next ilmob : that will quite possibly make you go bald  ;-)
[03:59] <ilmob> lol I thought that happened to dudes maybe if I rip out all my hair lol
[03:59] <bad-wire> it say how to open it here I think ilmob : http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.0/manuals/xfce-mcs-manager
[03:59] <bad-wire> that's what I meant yep
[03:59] <ilmob> oo
[04:00] <ilmob> this looks like a good resource too thanks!! I'll review
[04:00] <bad-wire> straight from the horse's mouth
[04:00] <bad-wire> ;-)
[04:01] <bad-wire> you could also try: sudo update-menu
[04:01] <bad-wire> and see if that helps
[04:01] <ilmob> honestly I'm glad I didn't give up though lol it really injected some new life into this hardware. If I knew better before I wouldn't have bought my other laptop lol
[04:01] <ilmob> cool thanks!
[04:17] <shadow98> is there anyway to go back a week or 2 in the irc chat history..or is available via google somehow..
[04:17] <shadow98> i posted a solution to a problem in the channel about a week ago...im having same problem with another jump drive..but i can't figure out the solution
[04:18] <shadow98> i pretty sure i posted how i fixed the problem
[04:19] <bad-wire> gilook for IRSeek shadow98 then on their site search for the nickname you were using
[04:20] <bad-wire> go look*
[04:20] <bad-wire> www.irseek.com
[04:26] <bad-wire> also shadow98 I know the ubuntu channel is archived so this one might be as well
[04:26] <shadow98> where do you find the archived channel
[04:31] <Odd-rationale> !log | shadow98
[04:32] <sinbox> IRSeekbot is archiving it as well on that URL I gave you shadow98
[04:32] <sinbox> oh
[04:32] <sinbox> the easy way, thanks Odd-rationale
[04:32] <Odd-rationale> np :D
[04:42] <shadow98> can't seem to find my posts...
[04:42] <shadow98> hehehe
[04:45] <sinbox> bit of a bummer that, did you check on  www.irseek.com ?
[05:04] <craigbass1976> I'm trying to set up LAMP on my new xub box.  I don't think the php install is taking.  WHen I go to localhost, I get prompted to open or save the file index.php
[05:08] <shadow98> i found it
[05:08] <shadow98> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3096170
[05:09] <shadow98> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/12/15/%23ubuntu.html
[05:09] <shadow98> on the 15th
[05:10] <shadow98> just fixed my problem again...with new jump drive that i have...
[05:10] <shadow98> thanks for you guys help in finding the archive...
[05:10] <shadow98> gotta reboot to fix this problem...laterz
[05:36] <ilmob> bye bye all!
[05:36] <forces> bye
[05:41] <ubuntu> is there anyway to easily connect to windows shares in xubuntu
[05:42] <forces> ubuntu, use samba
[05:43] <bad-wire> easier to see the windows file sthan the other way around tho9ugj
[05:44] <bad-wire> anyway, night night all
[05:44] <ubuntu> im installing samba now
[05:45] <ubuntu> shouldnt there be an option under places to connec to server
[05:50] <ubuntu> hmm
[05:58] <ubuntu> anybody give me a hand with this one..
[06:30] <moj0rising> hi, everyone. Quick question: Can you tell me how to change my password in the xfce keyring manager? I checked the forums and google but can't seem to find it for some reason.
[06:35] <forces> keyring manager?
[06:42] <moj0rising> yeah. think I found a way, forces. I renamed ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring
[06:43] <moj0rising> going to reboot and make sure it comes up like I want it to (automatically or at least prompts for password, which I'll leave blank so it hopefully later automatically logs in)
[12:03] <klopapier> hey there...
[12:03] <klopapier> can somebody help me with some issues?
[12:03] <klopapier> i'm kinda newb
[12:04] <klopapier> i run xubuntu 8.10 and recently my task bars got lost
[12:04] <klopapier> i managed to run the manually
[12:04] <klopapier> but i gotta do that everytime i log in
[12:05] <klopapier> how could i automatize it?
[12:06] <klopapier> is there any file to edit or somethin?
[12:16] <easotokr> hi guys I´m facing problems with my the latam notebook's keyboard, can someone give a hand, I tried everything I found in internet to try to fixe it
[12:27] <easotokr> facing problems with latam keyboard, tried everything no result, please help
[13:56] <Saggy> Cheers, can anyone point me in the direction of a checksum or similar for checking the Hardy Heron .iso?
[17:06] <WDC> How do I add more Desktops to XFCE?
[17:08] <sinbox> applications > settings > settings
[17:08] <TheSheep> WDC: settings->setting manager->desktops and margins
[17:09] <WDC> I guess an X restart would be required?
[17:09] <sinbox> nope
[17:09] <WDC> It didn't work autmaticlly.
[17:09] <WDC> It said I only had one to start with, and I have two.
[17:10] <sinbox> hmmm worked for me imediatelly when I used it
[17:10] <WDC> For the record, this is Ubuntu with XFCE installed
[17:10] <WDC> I made the unfortuante decision to originally use GNOME :)
[17:12] <WDC> Sorry i gotta go
[17:13] <WDC> thanks for yall's time
[17:51] <^anak^^jalanan^^> !chk 4491389900080701 1110 446
[18:05] <pist0l-fish> I just put xubuntu with 8.10 computer and I'm having trouble compiling some code. For some reason, things that should be in the c++ STL are bringing up errors (such as: "error: ‘strcmp’ was not declared in this scope"). Can anyone help?
[18:10] <Odd-rationale> pist0l-fish: did you install build-essential already?
[18:11] <pist0l-fish> Odd-rationale: I did not, is that an apt-get package?
[18:11] <Odd-rationale> yes.
[18:11] <Odd-rationale> !compile
[18:12] <pist0l-fish> Odd-rationale: installed it, still getting the same error
[18:13] <Odd-rationale> hmm... what are you trying to compile?
[18:13] <pist0l-fish> Odd-rationale: something I wrote
[18:14] <Odd-rationale> with gcc?
[18:14] <pist0l-fish> g++
[18:15] <Odd-rationale> i don't know a whole lot about gcc myself... i just started learning C...
[18:15] <pist0l-fish> ah... I know a whole lot about the language, but clearly not enough about the OS environment I'm using
[18:27] <slow-motion> hi
[18:30] <kaiser10123> how big is free xubuntu install and has anyone tried in on a dell mini 9
[18:39] <cubevanbaby> good afternoon (or whatever your respective time is depending on where you are in this world)
[18:40] <kaiser10123> hello
[18:53] <Odd-rationale> kaiser10123: i beleive the default installation of xubuntu is like < 3 gb
[22:13] <raceme> hi all... I've got a problem with last updates I've just done with intrepid: each time i log with gdm sessions ends within seconds... xsession-errors contains: libxfcegui4-WARNING: ICE I/O Error
[22:22] <sinbox> sorry am on 7.10 still here
[22:28] <raceme> in fact when i log in, xfce launches many processes: hundreds of gnome-volume-manager, hundreds of notification applets, etc.
[22:32] <sinbox> very weird, have you any other desktop or window manager installed you could try and log into to see if the problem persists?
[22:33] <raceme> sinbox: when i try startx from console then gdm launches and works pl
[22:33] <raceme> works ok
[22:34] <raceme> sinbox: i tried to remove ~/.cache ~/.ICE* /tmp/.X* /tmp/.I*
[22:35] <raceme> sinbox: after that, i can login and a dialog says "your session lasted less than 10 seconds it may be a disk space probleme' (this is not the case)... I can use the computer if I ignore the dialog. But when I click OK then the sessions ends as if X has been shut down
[22:35] <sinbox> ah well, if launching it from the console works OK then it can't be that bad a problem, unfortunately I have no idea what needs doing. You might want to ask in #ubuntu as well, it's a lot busier than here
[22:36] <raceme> sinbox: sorry I exprimed myself bad: from console with startx gnome is launched and works ok
[22:37] <sinbox> oh so in gnome you're ok but not in XFCE
[22:37] <raceme> sinbox: yes... just after the reboot following an upgrade
[22:38] <raceme> trying startxfce4 from console...
[22:39] <raceme> ok from console same punition: is is launching hundreds of each processes
[22:39] <sinbox> not got any suggestions I'm afraid, have you looked at the forums to see if anyone had the same problems?
[22:40] <raceme> sinbox: all the answers related to more or less similar problems are: delete .ICE and .cache; or remove and recreate the user
[22:40] <raceme> but i don't want to loose my user settings
[22:42] <sinbox> yeah bit of a bummer if you customised it a lot.
[22:42] <sinbox> do you remember what the updates actually were, maybe one of them didn't go through properly and messed everything up?
[22:43] <raceme> i use apt from command line and everything where ok.
[22:44] <raceme> i just logged with an old user and it is working... so it is related to user's home files
[22:45] <sinbox> right, what you could do is backup your user's /hom/ then delete him and recreate him and then put the old files from your backup one by one til you find which one is creating the problem
[22:45] <sinbox> /home/ not /hom/
[22:45] <raceme> sinbox: this is exactly what i am doing :)
[22:45] <raceme> sinbox: and it works with a blank home
[22:46] <sinbox> tedious but it should do it in the end :) I wish you lots of patience
[22:46] <raceme> sinbox: ok i'll have occupation for my spare time tomorrow
[22:46] <raceme> sinbox: thanks for help
[22:47]  * sinbox didn't actually do anything
[22:47] <sinbox> ;-)
[22:47] <raceme> sinbox: advices always help to find things you may miss
[22:48] <sinbox> well, if you happen to know anything about these softwares I need some help too:  ices-0.4  or  liveice-sn04  or icegenerator-0.5.5-pre2
[22:49] <raceme> sinbox: sorry i don't know ice
[22:49] <xarchie> ls
[22:59] <T`2> hi, anyone here using xfapplet?
[22:59] <knome> yes.
[23:01] <T`2> knome, the weather applet seems to not save the location info across logouts for me
[23:01] <T`2> knome, do you have a similar issue?
[23:02] <knome> T`2, i don't use the weather applet.
[23:02] <T`2> knome, ah ok
[23:03] <T`2> knome, do you happen to use anything like screenlets?
[23:03] <knome> T`2, nope.
[23:06] <owen9914> sorry to interrupt how do you get a programme that requires administrative privileges to automaticly start up after login?
[23:06] <TheSheep> owen9914: is it a gui program?
[23:06] <owen9914> yes it is
[23:07] <TheSheep> why does it need admin rights then? :/
[23:07] <owen9914> its an antivirus programme
[23:08] <TheSheep> there are no viruses for linux on the wild XD
[23:12] <owen9914> i know its just that this computer will be used by people in my house which are not very experienced with computer.just wanted antivirus to run so it would stop downloading of infected files. i know the chances of a virus are low i just want to make sure like
[23:13] <TheSheep> I'm not sure it has to run as root to do that
[23:14] <TheSheep> not familiar with antivirus software for linux
[23:20] <owen9914> the sheep: thanks for trying to help anyway. the only os's i have ever used are windows 95-vista and mac8-10. i am very new to linux. sorry for bothering you.
[23:21] <TheSheep> owen9914: you're not bothering, maybe someone else will know
[23:22] <TheSheep> owen9914: usually the root-needing programs run as daemons (services) and only have gui to access their config
[23:24] <sinbox> which program were you thinking of owen9914 ?
[23:24] <sinbox> clamAV?
[23:26] <owen9914> yeah it is
[23:30] <owen9914> thesheep: it says on the site it uses daemons yet in the services menu its not listed and it doesnt seem to be starting up. i might try to reinstall it
[23:30] <TheSheep> owen9914: I think they have a channel
[23:30] <TheSheep> owen9914: you could ask on #clamav
[23:31] <owen9914> the sheep: thanks i owe you one.