[00:00] <Roey> crimsun:  ps aux | grep tim   yields nothing
[00:00] <emma> xjjk, okay thank you, im going to boot into linux now and try those three things in that order.
[00:00] <xjjk> emma: also, did you look at that text file
[00:00] <crimsun> Roey: sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[00:01] <emma> xjjk: no if it comes to that it's too hopeless to bother.
[00:01] <xjjk> emma: OK.. up to you...
[00:01] <emma> i just thought it would be better to learn python on linux, i can try to learn it on windows if lnux cannot get on the internet.
[00:01] <xjjk> oh, you're only interested in learning Python?
[00:02] <emma> that's what i want to do.
[00:02] <Roey> OK
[00:02] <xjjk> virtualizing Linux with VirtualBox isn't that bad of an idea
[00:02] <willy> hey does any one know any yahoo chat programes
[00:02] <xjjk> if you want to go that route
[00:02] <Roey> crimsun:  it turned out to be nspluginviewer.  GRRRR.  Why the frick doesn't it use ALSA?????
[00:02] <xjjk> willy: pidgin
[00:02] <emma> it would be much more enjoyable to play with  Python in linux.
[00:02] <Roey> (I'm on a 64-bit arch)
[00:02] <xjjk> emma: yes, it would
[00:02] <emma> maybe instal wubi on windows?
[00:02] <willy> any thing else with voice
[00:03] <xjjk> emma: afaik wubi is still going to require you to setup your hardware
[00:03] <xjjk> which is the problem here
[00:03] <crimsun> Roey: nspluginwrapper doesn't care about the sound system. what's using nspluginwrapper? Flash?
[00:03] <Roey> yes
[00:03] <Roey> yes indeed.
[00:03] <emma> virtualizing linux in windows, won't that be the same as wubi?
[00:03] <xjjk> emma: virtualizing stuff, you bypass all that
[00:03] <Roey> crimsun:  yes indeed.
[00:03] <xjjk> emma: no
[00:03] <crimsun> Roey: which version?
[00:03] <Roey> crimsun:  9.x
[00:03] <emma> hm.
[00:03] <emma> im not sure what virtualising linux in windows means then.
[00:03] <Roey> crimsun:  it's not the beta 10 version that's native 64-bit
[00:03] <crimsun> Roey: on which Kubuntu release?
[00:03] <Roey> 8.10, crimsun
[00:04] <crimsun> Roey: and which arch are you using?
[00:04] <Roey> crimsun:  er, wait:
[00:04] <xjjk> emma: wubi lets you run linux natively without setting up separate partitioning
[00:04] <xjjk> emma: virtualizing lets you run another OS inside another OS
[00:04] <Roey> Kubuntu 8.10:  http://pastebin.com/m4ded81d7
[00:04] <xjjk> i.e. Linux within Windows, or vice versa
[00:04] <kimalasi> www.myspace.com
[00:04] <xjjk> there are a couple programs that let you do that, such as VMWare, VirtualBox, etc
[00:05] <emma> are they free and easy to install on windows?
[00:05] <xjjk> emma: VMware and VirtualBox have free versions, ys
[00:05] <xjjk> yes*
[00:05] <xjjk> very easy to install on Windows
[00:05] <xjjk> easy to install on Linux too
[00:05] <xjjk> I use VirtualBox to run Windows apps when in Linux
[00:05] <xjjk> so I don't have to reboot
[00:05] <crimsun> Roey: which $arch?
[00:06] <Roey> crimsun:  X86_64
[00:06] <emma> well let's hope the three step processes: (1) turn off knetworkmanager, (2) sudo iwconfig eth1 essid FarmNet (3) sudo dhclient eth1
[00:06] <emma> does it.
[00:07] <xjjk> emma: sure
[00:07] <xjjk> if you want to talk about the virtualization route, we can talk about it afterward...
[00:07] <emma> see you after a couple boots either way :) thanks for your kind help :)
[00:07] <xjjk> NP
[00:07] <emma> okay :)
[00:08] <crimsun> Roey: first, remove libflash-mozplugin, then tell me the sha1sum of /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[00:10] <ooda> Hi
[00:10] <Roey> crimsun:  9989de79e5e63493c5763da087a41aacc9e11530  /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[00:11] <ooda> why are so many people in here, but there is no one talking
[00:11] <Roey> ::cricket::    ::cricket::
[00:11] <crimsun> Roey: erm, that's definitely not the 64-bit alpha
[00:12] <ooda> lol
[00:12] <crimsun> Roey: 5b8bbeb0a90ab12bf0e7f5c57304ace9085eca9b  /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[00:13] <Roey> oh ok
[00:13] <Roey> crimsun:  how do I install that one??
[00:13] <Roey> crimsun:  I assume that one respects ALSA
[00:13] <Roey> since it does not use the wrapper
[00:14] <crimsun> Roey: they both respect alsa, the question is which of the two flash plugins was being used
[00:15] <Roey> oh.
[00:15] <Roey> ok.
[00:15] <Roey> so what's the next step?
[00:15] <willy> oi what yahoo programes u can use
[00:15] <crimsun> Roey: well, assuming it's working fine w/o a Flash instance running, test mpg123 alongside a Flash instance
[00:16] <Roey> er I jsut removed it
[00:16] <Roey> so...?
[00:16] <Roey> crimsun:  I just removed it I thought
[00:18] <crimsun> Roey: which flash package(s) did you remove?
[00:18] <crimsun> Roey: you need one but not both =)
[00:19] <Roey> crimsun:  libmoz-flash
[00:19] <Roey> or something like that
[00:19] <Roey> crimsun:  the one you told me to remove
[00:20] <crimsun> Roey: ok, but you left flashplugin-nonfree alone (i.e., still installed), correct?
[00:20] <Roey> ii  flashplugin-nonfree    10.0.15.3ubuntu1~intre Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[00:20] <Roey> aye
[00:22] <crimsun> Roey: ok, so try mpg123 alongside some youtube schtick
[00:24] <Roey> crimsun:  yeah that worked
[00:24] <crimsun> Roey: ok, case closed.
[00:24] <Roey> so does this one /not/ go through ndiswrapper?
[00:24] <crimsun> err, you mean nspluginwrapper?
[00:24] <crimsun> [not the ndis windows/ndis driver wrapper]
[00:25] <Roey> crimsun:  http://pastebin.com/m46e0ff0c
[00:25] <Roey> nspluginwrapper?  I think?
[00:25] <crimsun> Roey: you're using the wrapped one
[00:26] <Roey> oof
[00:26] <Roey> crimsun:  I want the 64-bit native one
[00:26] <crimsun> it doesn't matter
[00:26] <Roey> ok
[00:26] <crimsun> then you need to purge nspluginwrapper and flashplugin-nonfree, then reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[00:26] <metalman1673> i have both but i just want to use kde
[00:26] <Roey> whichever ends this sound issue ofr me
[00:26] <crimsun> the sound issue is already resolved
[00:27] <metalman1673> need help
[00:28] <Roey> crimsun:  OK, so I purged nsplugin-wrapper and flashplugin-nonfree, but when I try to reinstall flashplugin-nonfree, it says it wants to install nspluginwrapper as well.
[00:28] <crimsun> Roey: what's the output from `apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree' ?
[00:29] <Roey>   Candidate: 10.0.15.3ubuntu1~intrepid1
[00:29] <Roey> crimsun:    Candidate: 10.0.15.3ubuntu1~intrepid1
[00:29] <metalman1673> need help
[00:29] <Roey> crimsun:  uh, I wonder if I'm missing a deb line?
[00:30] <crimsun> well, that's the version from intrepid-{security,updates}
[00:30] <Roey> ok
[00:30] <Roey> so what should I be using then?
[00:30] <ronaldo_> alguem do amapa
[00:30] <Roey> nao
[00:31] <Roey> não
[00:31] <jone> Could anyone see screenshot? http://skittent.net/~enoj/kubuntu-installer.png - Trying to install Kubuntu using these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux ( got partition where I placed the contents from the cd and edited grub to boot from this partition (booting from partition is (0,4)) - sda1 never appears in the install to the right in the screenshot
[00:31] <Roey> crimsun:  so what should I be using then?  And how do I switch to it?
[00:31] <crimsun> Roey: you're using the correct version. it's the same source package as intrepid's, just updated for the security fix. it's not the same as jaunty's, so you don't get the native 64-bit one by default.
[00:32] <Roey> crimsun:  ok.
[00:32] <Roey> crimsun:  how do I use the 64-bit one?
[00:32] <crimsun> Roey: if you want jaunty's, you'll need to install it explicitly.
[00:32] <Roey> crimsun:  how do I do this?
[00:32] <crimsun> Roey: well, i don't necessarily recommend it.
[00:33] <metalman1673> can anyone give me a hand with changing from gome desktop to kde
[00:33] <crimsun> Roey: it's http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-nonfree_10.0.15.3ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[00:33] <crimsun> metalman1673: did you install kubuntu-desktop as i suggested?
[00:34] <Roey> is it something I can wget and then dpkg -i?
[00:34] <Roey> crimsun:  is it something I can wget and then dpkg -i?
[00:34] <metalman1673> yess
[00:34] <metalman1673>  and nothing
[00:34] <crimsun> Roey: you should be able to click the url directly, and it should bring up gdebi
[00:34] <crimsun> metalman1673: "nothing" meaning?
[00:34] <Roey> crimsun:  ok
[00:34] <RytmenPinne> why does kmail need to open the wallet when shutting it down?
[00:34] <Roey> crimsun:  I mean, I've installed it already.  THANKS Dan :)
[00:34] <Roey> U R AWESOME
[00:35] <metalman1673> well gome keeps being my desktop
[00:35] <metalman1673> and cant change to kde
[00:37] <crimsun> metalman1673: did you choose to use the kde session in Choose Session...
[00:38] <metalman1673> when i click on the icon kde theme it does't work
[00:42] <metalman1673> were can i change kde session
[00:49] <Ash-Fox> Does anyone know how to readd Ark's "extract here" and "extract to" right click file menu options on archives from KDE3 onto KDE4 (since apparently that doesn't come on Kubuntu by default)?
[01:01] <david_> how do i watch youtube videos on kubuntu?
[01:01] <deamoon> firefox
[01:02] <crimsun> if you're on 32-bit, you can use adobe-flashplugin, or you can use swfdec-mozilla
[01:05] <david_> how do i install flashplyer through adept?
[01:10] <khesatan> hello :)
[01:12] <david_> could someone help me get youtube to work
[01:13] <Hydrant2> david do apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[01:15] <david_> Hydrant2:  did not work
[01:15] <Hydrant2> why
[01:16] <david_> Hydrant2:  how do i get to root sudo -i?
[01:16] <Hydrant2> sudo bash
[01:16] <Hydrant2> do you have multiverse/3rd party / universe enabled in adept ?
[01:17] <dr_willis> dont use 'sudo bash' --   sudo -s , or sudo -i, is much perfered.
[01:18] <david_> Hydrant2: went to root and it said could not find package adobe-flashplugin
[01:19] <dr_willis> The package 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' installs flash and java and some other bits you proberly want.
[01:19]  * genii hands dr_willis a coffee
[01:20] <khesatan> is there a decent beginner's/idiot's guide to ubuntu?  i would like to have some reference material, if anyone would be kind enough to recommend something.
[01:21] <khesatan> aside from the main website, i mean, and the help guides
[01:21] <dr_willis> !training
[01:21] <dr_willis> and yes.. that book is old.. but gnome is gnome....
[01:22] <khesatan> okay..
[01:22] <khesatan> <-- utterly new, for what it's worth >.>
[01:22] <khesatan> thanks, though :)
[01:23] <dr_willis> thats a decent book for someone that has no clue what linux even/gnome even is.. but its basicially a 'learn how to use gnome' book sort of...
[01:23] <khesatan> great!  i've bookmarked it so i can look it over
[01:33] <asobi> is it me or does it take more space to upgrade than a fresh install?
[01:35] <smax> hi
[01:35] <smax> has anyone here installed quake wars enemy territory, comercial version?
[01:44] <david_> how do i get mom free flashplayer through adept?
[01:44] <dr_willis> The package 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' installs flash and java and some other bits you proberly want.
[01:44] <david_> non
[01:45] <bazhang> gnash?
[01:45]  * dr_willis is lazy and uses tat meta-package
[01:47] <david_> could someone tell me how to get the non free flashplayer on adept?
[01:47] <dr_willis> !flash
[01:48] <bazhang> david_, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:48] <dr_willis> that Factoid page - is a bit out of date
[01:48] <bazhang> david_, unless you mean the standalone player
[01:51] <JediatNight> Hi, I'm playing dvds on kubuntu , How can i increase the screensize ? it seems like the screensize is small and i'd like to increase it. Any ideas?
[01:52] <dr_willis> check out the docs for the player?  try other players..   I perfer gmplayer myself.
[01:52] <dr_willis> Not sure what you mean by screensize.. You mean the video is displayed in a smaller then  it should be window?
[01:59] <david_> bazhang: typed that into terinal and still cannot watch youube
[02:00] <bazhang> david_, type about:plugins in browser bar and make sure it was installed
[02:02] <david_> bazhang: im using konqueror
[02:03] <david_> bazhang: but in terminal it said everything was installed
[02:03] <bazhang> david_, did you quit, clean cache and restart konqueror
[02:03] <smax> has anyone here installed quake wars enemy territory, comercial version?
[02:04] <david_> bazhang: no i dont know how?
[02:04] <emma> hm, i just can't make wifi work in kubuntu at all.
[02:05] <emma> and the wifi is not even secured.
[02:05] <david_> bazhang: does that mean restart my pc?
[02:06] <bazhang> david_, no, clear the cache in konqueror, then quit konqueror and restart it; nothing to do with restarting your pc
[02:07] <emma> are there problems with knetworkmanager?
[02:07] <bazhang> david_, seldom need to restart pc unless it is a kernel upgrade
[02:07] <david_> bazhang: how do i clear the cach?
[02:08] <bazhang> david_, I'm not using konqueror at the moment, but it should be in the preferences there (just look around a bit)
[02:11] <david_> bazhang: were are the prefereces?
[02:12] <david_> bazhang: do iopen koqueror?
[02:13] <david_> bazhang: sry sp do i open konqueror?
[02:14] <Qrawl> is anyone having problems with kgpg in 4.2
[02:15] <genii> david_: Settings..Configure Konqueror...Cache (in left pane)... "Clear Cache" button( in right pane) ... Apply
[02:17] <david_> genii: when i do hit the clear button it will not let meapply?
[02:17] <genii> david_: OK, thats fine.
[02:18] <genii> david_: The  Apply button might only be needed if you change the cache size or so
[02:21] <david_> genii: still no you tube
[02:24] <genii> david_: Did you do: Settings..Configure Konqueror... Plugins (left pane) .. Scan for New Plugins (right pane)
[02:25] <Souper> i'm trying to upgrade to the kde4.2 beta and i've added the source but when i perform apt-get upgrade it says that all of the packages were held back.
[02:26] <HappySmileMan> apt-get dist-upgrade should do it
[02:26] <Harman> hello
[02:27] <Souper> oh awesome, thanks.
[02:27] <Harman> hello friends i want to install my graphics driver
[02:28] <Harman> unichrome
[02:29] <Harman> can anybody help me
[02:29] <JontheEchidna> Harman: xserver-xorg-video-openchrome is probably the package you want
[02:30] <Harman> i have run it
[02:30] <Harman> but doesnt work
[02:32] <david_> genii: now i get the black screen on youtube
[02:32] <xjjk> emma: hey, did you end up getting your wireless working?
[02:33] <xjjk> nm, just saw your note in the recent scrollback
[02:33] <genii> david_: Did you exit and restart Konq since you installed the other plugins, etc?
[02:40] <david_> genii: yes i did still black screen when i try to play vids
[02:42] <genii> david_: Do you have package: konqueror-nsplugins               installed?
[02:42] <genii> (or konqueror-nsplugins-kde4   if on kde4)
[02:43] <david_> genii: i have no cle probably not new install
[02:44] <genii> david_: You have kde3 or kde4 installed?
[02:45] <david_> genii:  kde4
[02:45] <genii> david_: Then in Konsole (with Adept closed): sudo apt-get install konqueror-nsplugins-kde4
[02:46] <genii> david_: You may need first:  sudo apt-get update
[03:13] <shah> hi
[03:18] <Adola> hi
[03:19] <guiterb> all
[03:20] <_2> !info ncurses dapper
[03:20] <_2> ?
[03:21] <_2> !find ncurses dapper
[03:21] <_2> !find ^ncurses dapper
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> dapper!? kinda outdated there :)
[03:21] <_2> nosrednaekim it's lts
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> yeah..... don't get many people still running that though :P
[03:22] <Tm_T> !botabuse | _2
[03:26] <inteliwasp> can i have 2 diffrent versions of the nvidia drivers installed for 2 cards at the same time?
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> inteliwasp: no
[03:28] <inteliwasp> well i just got a pci gforce 5200 card but i already have a gforce3 card that does not allow the latist version
[03:29] <_2> >> Unable to find the Ncurses libraries.
[03:29] <_2> >> You must have Ncurses installed in order
[03:29] <_2> >> to use 'make menuconfig'
[03:29] <Tm_T> _2: you prolly need -dev package
[03:29] <_2> i have both ncurses-bin and ncurses-base   as well as libncurses-dev
[03:30] <_2> there is no ncurses-dev   btw
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> inteliwasp: better go for the nv drivers then :(
[03:30] <inteliwasp> nosrednaekim for both or the gf3?
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> for both
[03:32] <max_> okay, i've got a stupid question, if anyone can help me
[03:32] <max_> i've just installed kubuntu 8.10, switching from ubuntu using gnome
[03:32] <max_> and was wondering if anyone could help me to change the window decoration theme...
[03:33] <max_> i'm not sure which packages i'm missing, mostly..at least, that's how it seems to me
[03:34] <_2> maybe the error message is inaccurate, maybe it's a missing compiler
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> max_: yeah, go to systemsettings->appearance->windows
[03:34] <_2>  /bin/sh: gcc-3.3: command not found
[03:34] <_2> yeah that was it.    problem solved.
[03:36] <who_ever> hi there, i wonder if there is a tools for kubuntu to edit windows registry ?
[03:45] <Adola> Excuse me.  How can I get dbus-monitor?
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> !info dbus-monitor
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> !find dbus-monitor
[03:47] <hang3r> its installed by default, just run dbus-monitor
[04:01] <Adola> Can somone please help me with this? http://linux.die.net/man/1/dbus-monitor
[04:04] <SJr|Nbook> I have a Intel ALC268 Audio card, under Windows the maximum volume sucks, with headphones. You can go in and adjust an equalizer in the drivers to get it to be regular level. How can I do that with Linux? Also I'm having problems with high CPU Usage in KDE
[04:04] <nongo>      
[04:04] <nongo>   
[04:04] <nongo>   
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> SJr|Nbook: you can use Kmix... if it doesn't show all the channels, you mayneed to enable them via configure->channels
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> SJr|Nbook: for highCPU usage, press ctrl+esc and then sort the processes by CPU usage and see which is the culprit
[04:10] <SJr|Nbook> Xorg, Plasma, krunner
[04:10] <SJr|Nbook> And the channels are all there
[04:10] <SJr|Nbook> but the max value is pithy
[04:10] <SJr|Nbook> I tried adding the rest but there is nothing that is controlling output volume there
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> SJr|Nbook: ok, I'm not familiar with the sound chip, try googling if anyone else has had the problem.
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> as for the CPU usage issue, I'm suspection compositing/effects.. do you have them turned on?
[04:12] <SJr|Nbook> Hmmmmm yeah
[04:12] <jone> Could anyone see screenshot? http://skittent.net/~enoj/kubuntu-installer.png - Trying to install Kubuntu using these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux ( got partition where I placed the contents from the cd and edited grub to boot from this partition (booting from partition is (0,4)) - sda1 never appears in the install to the right in the screenshot
[04:15] <nosrednaekim> taking a look jone
[04:16] <jone> great, thanks :)
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> jone: did you run that Unetbootin as root (or sudo)?
[04:18] <david_> how do i install compiz?
[04:18] <jone> i did it manually
[04:19] <jone> the details below the Unetbootin link
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> under which section
[04:20] <jone> live cd
[04:20] <jone> at the top
[04:20] <david_> i have compiz-wrapper installed how do i get more desktop effects?
[04:21] <david_> or the cube and fire paint?
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> jone: which step are you on?
[04:22] <jone> nosrednaekim: where you choose where you want it installed (which partition)
[04:22] <jone> the list is empty
[04:23] <jone> it's after i choosed manual setup for partitions
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> OH! heh... is this the Juanty Beta?
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> or alpha...
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> jone?
[04:27] <jone> well no i just chose the latest
[04:27] <volker> hallo
[04:28] <jone> kubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> ah... hmmm
[04:28] <jone> if I put a kingston memory card in it, that one appears
[04:29] <nosrednaekim> soo... did the guided partitioning have anything on it? I've never seen an empty manual partitioning screen: its very odd <_<
[04:30] <jone> could it be because the installer is mounted on the same drive as where i want it installed? (i created a new partition for it on the same drive)
[04:31] <jone> the installer is booting from sda5
[04:31] <jone> i want it installed on sda1
[04:31] <Adola> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166871
[04:31] <Adola> Has anyone else encounted this?
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> jone: nah... that shouldn't bother it
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> I don't think
[04:33] <volker> hi
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> hey volker
[04:36] <volker> hi nosrednaekim
[04:37] <Red_Tear> !de
[04:38] <Adola> Excuse me.  Can someone please help me?
[04:38] <Adola> http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=26231
[04:38] <volker> spricht hier jemand Deutsch?
[04:38] <Adola> How do I apply this "patch"?
[04:39] <nosrednaekim> !de
[04:39] <nosrednaekim> !patch
[04:41] <Adola> Ok.  I see this.
[04:41] <Adola> But...I'm still rather new to Linux.
[04:41] <Adola> And...I...I need a guided hand please.
[04:55] <guiterb> how to set the ip?
[04:57] <p_quarles> guiterb: for what?
[04:57] <nosrednaekim> Adola: Patches are not exactly for the new :P
[04:57] <nosrednaekim> Adola: I gather that Kaffiene is failing to play a file?
[04:58] <Adola> nosrednaekim: No, it's AmaroK 2 and Kopete.  Kopete sucks and won't show "now playing" as it should.  That "Patch" is supposedly going to fix it.  I just need help in applying it :D
[04:59] <nosrednaekim> so its a patch for amarok or for kopete?
[05:00] <Adola> For Kopete.
[05:00] <Adola> Because, kopete wouldn't support ANYTHING using Dbus.
[05:00] <Adola> And, this fixs AmaroK 2, Juk, and other stuff
[05:01] <nosrednaekim> ah, I see.... this is a patch for the kde3 version of kopete, or is it for the kde4 one?
[05:02] <Adola> I'm not sure.
[05:02] <Adola> I'm assuming KDE4.  I seen no SPECIFIC mention.
[05:04] <corigo2> Hi, when I get my microphone to work for Skype microphone sound is looping back through the speakers. I have to have the volume in for the microphone super high in order to work with Skype, which means that is feedsback with the speakers. Is there any way to solve this (other than headphones which means that no one else can here the conversation)? The microphone has to be up sooo high even with headphones the sound from Microphone is so loud it
[05:04] <corigo2> is hard to hear the voice of the person being called on Skype.
[05:05] <Adola> So.  How do I apply this patch?
[05:05] <vignesh> Hey
[05:05] <vignesh> How do I switch off visual effects ?
[05:06] <vignesh> I don`t find that option in system settings
[05:09] <nosrednaekim> Adola: it matters which version its for
[05:09] <vignesh> kde4
[05:09] <Adola> Kopete
[05:09] <Adola> Version 0.60.3
[05:09] <Adola> Using KDE 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3)
[05:10] <nosrednaekim> nosrednaekim: yes, thats the one you are running... but is that the one the patch is for?
[05:11] <vignesh> can someone tell me how to disable visual effects in kubuntu 8.10 kde4
[05:12] <Adola> nosrednaekim: Version: 	 unspecified
[05:12] <Adola> Straight from KDE BTS' site
[05:12] <nosrednaekim> vignesh: yes... alt+chift+f12
[05:12] <nosrednaekim> Adola: ok
[05:12] <vignesh> nosrednaekim, Thaks
[05:13] <nosrednaekim> Adola: fraid I can't really help you. if its the kde4 version, the patch should be included in the next release (soon) and if its kde3 it'll be eliminated anyway
[05:13] <nosrednaekim> so I'd say just wait it out a bit :P
[05:13] <Adola> nosrednaekim: Ok.
[05:20] <reboot08> i created user accounts how to change all passwords from root vip
[05:21] <reboot08> need to lock this box up
[05:21] <nosrednaekim> reboot08: "passwd username"
[05:21] <reboot08> either that or i whipe hard drive 2 hrs toime frame
[05:22] <reboot08> break up in progress
[05:22] <reboot08> from root prompt right?
[05:23] <reboot08> k
[05:23] <reboot08> too much info on here
[05:28] <reboot08> not working help
[05:28] <reboot08> have three user accounts all vulnerable
[05:28] <reboot08> need to change i have root
[05:53] <pjammer_> so far so good peoples.
[05:53] <pjammer_> kde 4.1 is slick.
[06:15] <Arv3n> Hi all.
[06:15] <Arv3n> Can anyone vouch for using KDE 4.2 on a daily basis as an experienced linux user?
[06:15] <Arv3n> or should i just stick with kde 4.1.3, i ask because 4.2 really looks killer. not sure if i want to wait. :)
[06:16] <p_quarles> Arv3n: I use it on a daily basis.
[06:16] <Arv3n> is it buggy?
[06:16] <Arv3n> i tried it on opensuse 11.1 and it was _REALLY_ buggy.
[06:16] <p_quarles> Arv3n: but that's because nothing is terribly problematic for me; I don't know what the dealbreakers are for you
[06:16] <Arv3n> hm.
[06:17] <Arv3n> would you recommend it?
[06:17] <p_quarles> Plasma crashes sometimes, Akregator resizes the article list columns, Akonadi doesn't like things it doesn't expect, and Konsole doesn't remember transparency
[06:17] <Arv3n> oh, thats not bad.
[06:18] <p_quarles> I haven't encountered anything that bad; but it *really* depends on the use case
[06:19] <Arv3n> i think i might do it then.
[06:19] <p_quarles> Arv3n: I used the Launchpad PPA for KDE4.2 -- it's pretty easy to revert if needed, I think
[06:19] <p_quarles> ultimately, if you're willing to rely on your backups, it's worth a try
[06:22] <Arv3n> alright, im upgrading. =)
[06:22] <Arv3n> i <3 my upgraded connection.
[06:31] <BentFrank> I'm trying to zip a dir and exclude one subdir:  "zip -r foo.zip foo -x foo/images/"  It seems to ignore the exclude.  Anyone have any ideas?
[06:40] <SJr|Nbook> Hmmmm I'm stumped, I can't seem to create an ad-hoc network that other devices can see. the mode is currently ad-hoc
[06:41] <SJr|Nbook> For some reason it's not broadcasting
[06:41] <chop> hey dude whats the best programe to run on yahoo
[06:44] <chop> i need a programe for yahoo
[06:45] <p_quarles> chop: you need to be a little bit more specific before anyone can offer useful advice
[06:46] <chop> i want yahoo or something to run with linux
[06:46] <chop> yahoo chat programe
[06:46] <chop> dont know where a best site
[06:47] <p_quarles> chop: Pidgin or Kopete
[06:48] <Arv3n> *tear*
[06:48] <Arv3n> it is beautiful.
[06:49] <Arv3n> p_quarles, im glad i upgraded. :)
[06:49] <p_quarles> Arv3n: yeah, visually it's pretty amazing
[06:50] <Arv3n> i agree.
[06:50] <Arv3n> lets see if i can get that new wallpaper.
[06:50] <Arv3n> nope =/
[06:50] <p_quarles> which one are you looking for?
[06:50] <Arv3n> the one with blue dots
[06:51] <p_quarles> hmm; guess I don't know that
[06:51] <p_quarles> know that one*
[06:51] <Arv3n> its in the kde.org kde 4.2 announcement
[06:51] <Arv3n> its stunning.
[06:51]  * p_quarles goes to look
[06:51] <Arv3n> http://kde.org/announcements/announce_4.2-beta2/panel.png
[06:51] <Arv3n> so beautiful.
[06:51] <p_quarles> oh, yeah, that is kinda nice -- I use my own, though
[06:51] <Arv3n> ic.
[06:52] <Arv3n> on opensuse 11.1 i had to go searching a ton until i finally realized i had to delete .kde4 and lose all my settings. else plasma would keep crashing every time i started up.
[06:56] <p_quarles> looks like lots of people are looking for that wallpaper: http://pinheiro-kde.blogspot.com/2008/11/kde-42-rocks-i-told-you-so.html
[06:56] <Arv3n> figures.. its a very beautiful wallpaper.
[07:00] <BilatNimo> can i synchronize my pocket pc on ubuntu? i'm using windows mobile 6
[07:11] <kc8tpz> wats on the kubuntu dvd thats not on the cd?
[07:32] <kyle__> how do i get permission to write ndiswrapper -mi or -ma?
[07:33] <kyle__> because i need to get this to work for my wireless
[07:34] <kyle|huttger> someone?anyone?
[07:35] <kyle|huttger> HELLO?!?
[07:40] <kyle|huttger> does anyone know how to do ndiswrapper -mi or -ma?
[07:44] <ajuonline> hi, I am trying to update to kde 4.2 beta and i am facing errors
[07:44] <ajuonline> my keyboard doesnt works and the windows dont show any Close, minimise or maximise buttons
[07:44] <kyle|huttger> first.....these people dont answer
[07:44] <ajuonline> http://pastebin.ca/1294964
[07:46] <kyle|huttger> nobody answers here
[07:46] <p_quarles> kyle|huttger: "these people don't answer" when they don't know the answer. Unless you want wild guesses?
[07:46] <kyle|huttger> something is better than nothing
[07:46] <kyle|huttger> or at least say "i dont know, sorry"
[07:47] <p_quarles> kyle|huttger: okay: you're printer is on fire
[07:47] <BentFrank> there are 100 peopole in here to say that
[07:48] <BentFrank> ajuonline - you had errors in the install, also some packages was not authenticated, whatever that means.  Try to get a clean install.
[07:48] <ajuonline> BentFrank: any idea how to do that?
[07:48] <kyle|huttger> or just go back to the old version and wait till it is not beta anymore
[07:49] <p_quarles> ajuonline: the authentication isn't anything to worry about; just the lack of GPG key for the Launchpad PPA repo
[07:49] <ajuonline> ok i didnt add the keys. true.
[07:50] <p_quarles> apart from that, it looks like APT is broken by something there
[07:50] <p_quarles> I would try (fingers crossed) sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[07:51] <p_quarles> in all honesty, I've seen similar errors, but don't know of many successful resolutions; APT getting corrupted seems to be a pretty difficult error to deal with
[07:52] <ajuonline> hmm ok
[07:52] <BentFrank> I'm trying to zip a dir and exclude one subdir:  "zip -r foo.zip foo -x foo/images/"  It seems to ignore the exclude.  Anyone have any ideas?
[07:52] <p_quarles> ajuonline: maybe someone else here has had a different experience, so don't take my word for it
[07:52] <ajuonline> p_quarles: already did that  command. waiting for results.
[07:57] <BentFrank> I found the answer:  -x foo/images/\*
[08:15] <szrhawaii> #vista-windows
[08:16] <hang3r> no thanks
[08:16] <Rackattack> It works! :D
[08:18] <szrhawaii> anyone know how to get the vga driver for a Compaq CQ50-115NR to work for linux
[08:18] <szrhawaii> anyone know the thread for windows xp
[08:19] <szrhawaii> !nicrosoft windows
[08:19] <szrhawaii> !microsoft windows
[08:20] <p_quarles> szrhawaii: /j ##windows
[08:20] <szrhawaii> thanks
[08:22] <gps23> hi
[08:23] <gps23> in my kubuntu 8.10 pulse audio is not installed by default
[08:23] <gps23> when i play a movie file using mplayer front end, it gives error regarding audio
[08:24] <gps23> should i installed pulse audio or should i use alsa in mplayer by specifying it in the mplayer's configuration file?
[08:32] <Arv3n> AHH.
[08:32] <Arv3n> a nice good game of team fortress 2 on kubuntu. (H)
[08:37] <BilatNimo> bye
[08:42] <gps23> how do i stop strigidaemon? it taking too much memory and processor power
[08:42] <gps23> and mepomuk services too
[08:45] <gps23> how can i start/stop the services in kubuntu?
[08:49] <hyper_ch> gps23: sudo /etc/init.d/servicename stop/start/restart
[08:50] <gps23> hyper_ch, i want to make it permanent
[08:50] <hyper_ch> gps23: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Update-rc.d
[08:53] <gps23> hyper_ch, thanks
[09:02] <guodejun> 你们好，我刚安装好中文输入。想听歌怎么啊？谁告诉我，谢谢！
[09:04] <hang3r> !give guodejun cn
[09:04] <hang3r> !cn
[09:06] <guodejun> I need help about song
[09:07] <hyper_ch> guodejun: what song?
[09:10] <hyper_ch> uga: ignored for massiv query spam
[09:10] <bora> hi everyone I am ubuntu user
[09:10] <hyper_ch> bora: that's good
[09:10] <bora> I installed  ubuntu 8.10 version
[09:10] <bora> ;D
[09:10] <Arv3n> hi all.
[09:10] <uga> hyper_ch: maybe you should read privmsgs
[09:10] <Arv3n> p_quarles, hallo.
[09:10] <bora> thank u hyper_ch
[09:10] <uga> now and then
[09:10] <hyper_ch> bora: but you got a few problems with ubuntu?
[09:11] <p_quarles> Arv3n: yeah?
[09:11] <Arv3n> i saw your post on ubuntuforums.org
[09:11] <Arv3n> :)
[09:11] <uga> hyper_ch: rather than playing like a bot
[09:11] <Arv3n> well, your screenshot.
[09:11] <p_quarles> Arv3n: :D
[09:11] <Arv3n> that guy above me had the wallpaper i liked, so im thinking it'll be included as default or something in 4.2 final.
[09:11] <hang3r> Arv3n: Got a link
[09:12] <Arv3n> probably just not in that build.
[09:12] <Arv3n> hang3r, of wut? the wallpaper?
[09:12] <hyper_ch> Arv3n: what post?
[09:12] <hang3r> or thread
[09:12] <Arv3n> hang3r, december 2008 screenshot thread
[09:12] <hyper_ch> Arv3n: url?
[09:12] <bora> not very big  I need to say I ve a small problem I  would like to  compiz fushion and side bar But I dont know How I do to ? can anynone help me about that
[09:12] <p_quarles> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6448652#post6448652
[09:12] <Arv3n> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6448652&posted=1#post6448652
[09:12] <Arv3n> lol.
[09:12] <Arv3n> o_O
[09:12] <Arv3n> listening to metallica still (H)
[09:12] <hyper_ch> bora: do you use ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:13] <uga> sigh, will somebody ping hyper_ch for me? he's playing ****iot. I just privmsgd him pointing out that the guy asking about "songs" isn't even on an linux box (with an nmap paste) and he auto-ignored me
[09:13] <bora> yes
[09:13] <bora>  I use  ıt
[09:13] <Arv3n> wow.
[09:13] <bora> ubuntu
[09:13] <Arv3n> tons of activity for 4am est.
[09:13] <hyper_ch> bora: no clue about gnome... better ask in #ubuntu
[09:14] <hyper_ch> Arv3n: it's not everywhere in the world 4am
[09:14] <Arv3n> hyper_ch, yes, but since (i would assume) most users are from america, its really late.
[09:14] <Arv3n> or at least n. america
[09:14] <hyper_ch> Arv3n: you assume a lot
[09:14] <Arv3n> yep. (H)
[09:14] <Arv3n> its all good.
[09:15] <Arv3n> i wouldve been on opensolaris right now, but i couldnt get my network to work even though the drivers were installed. ~_~
[09:16] <Arv3n> is there an offtopic channel?
[09:17] <Malic> hi! i have done an upgrade to intrepid and now the desktop effects wont work ( i cant switch to opengl!!). I use an ati mobility radeon 9700. Where could be the problem?
[09:17] <Malic> I have seen that there is now entry for my graphics card in my xorg.conf. Is that normal?
[09:17] <Arv3n> Malic, kubuntu or ubuntu? kubuntu?
[09:18] <Malic> kubuntu .. kde 4.1
[09:18] <Arv3n> ok
[09:18] <Arv3n> erm, i cant help. sorry.
[09:18] <Arv3n> well, actually, hold on.
[09:18] <Arv3n> run "systemsettings" in konsole, and enable desktop effects and paste any output you get in the terminal at paste.ubuntu.com.
[09:18] <Malic> hm.. also the plasma is black.. are the widgets only working with opengl?
[09:19] <Arv3n> Malic, did plasma crash?
[09:19] <Malic> no
[09:19] <Arv3n> well, do above. ^
[09:19] <Arv3n> see if that shows anything.
[09:19] <william> this distro's desktop. panel.and setup suck
[09:20] <toooth> hyper_ch: ping
[09:20] <hyper_ch> toooth: pong
[09:21] <toooth> hyper_ch: will you please unignore uga? he (me) was just pointing out important info on privmsg. And not sure why you (or your app) autoignored him
[09:21] <william> i can not find my way around and when i do i installed firefox and it will not show up in the internet menu
[09:21] <Arv3n> william, is this kubuntu 8.10?
[09:21] <william> yes
[09:21] <hyper_ch> toooth: no, I got spammed by query and uga remains on ignore
[09:21] <Arv3n> well, quit your bitching.
[09:22] <toooth> hyper_ch: you weren't spammed. You just received a privmsg with a nmap output
[09:22] <william> the kde 4 sucks
[09:22] <Arv3n> did you read what i said?
[09:22] <hyper_ch> toooth: that's spam
[09:22] <toooth> hyper_ch: which contained info on this "chinese" guy that was faking
[09:22] <toooth> hyper_ch: oh well, then the whole of this channel is spam
[09:22] <hyper_ch> toooth: you'll be on my ignore list also shortly if you continue
[09:22] <Arv3n> lol.
[09:22] <Arv3n> has anyone ran maplestory on vmware?
[09:23] <william> Arv3n, i need help with it
[09:23] <Arv3n> william, wut about?
[09:23] <toooth> hyper_ch: oh well, keep up doing stupid comments. I was just helping you out with this chinese guy who 1) isn't chinese 2) isn't on linux 3) wasn't in the right channel 4) was bothering you
[09:23] <toooth> and well, I don't need you anyway
[09:23] <toooth> feel free
[09:23] <william> not your how do i get the program to run from menu instead of term
[09:23] <Arv3n> hyper_ch, look what you did.
[09:24] <hyper_ch> Arv3n: put another one on my ignore list?
[09:24] <Arv3n> oh. *shrug*. i dont care.
[09:24] <uga> Arv3n: it's fine, don't do that
[09:24] <uga> you'll end up in his list too
[09:24] <hyper_ch> Arv3n: neither do I :)
[09:24] <Arv3n> lol
[09:24] <hyper_ch> well, not anymore now :)
[09:24] <Arv3n> ok
[09:24] <william> like i had to run xchat from term
[09:25] <Arv3n> god.
[09:25] <Arv3n> my chair is wooden and it hurts my butt so bad.
[09:25] <uga> Arv3n: I only posted him an nmap output for this guy, full of msql ports open, and he was askign about music. Obviously not asking about playing music on ubuntu =)
[09:25] <Malic> Arv3n.. do i need the fglrx driver?
[09:25] <william> Arv3n, i need help with it
[09:25] <hyper_ch> Arv3n: maybe you shouldn't spend so much tim in that chair then
[09:25] <Arv3n> Malic, shouldnt they be instaleld if you just upgraded? i assumed you had the drivers installed before upgrading.
[09:26] <Malic> i thought in kde 4.1 this one isnt necessary
[09:26] <william> get a pad Arv3n
[09:26] <Arv3n> william, pft. how about a new chair.
[09:26] <william> sure
[09:26] <william> i am in a bed
[09:26] <Arv3n> lucky.
[09:27] <hyper_ch> bed is really comfy :)
[09:27] <william> typing on handed
[09:27] <Malic> Arv3n no i removed the fglrx driver before the upgrade, because adept_amanager told that the fglrx driver for my card isnt supported
[09:27] <william> one
[09:27] <Arv3n> Malic, im not sure what to do.
[09:27] <hyper_ch> william: I don't want to know what you do with your other hand
[09:27] <Malic> ok
[09:27] <Arv3n> try going to your kmenu
[09:27] <william> ;P
[09:27] <Arv3n> go to applications --> system --> hardware drivers
[09:27] <Arv3n> and see if that works.
[09:27] <Arv3n> i dont have an ati card, so im not really experienced at this.
[09:27] <Arv3n> lol
[09:28] <william> dont have one
[09:28] <uga> hyper_ch: I'm pretty sure those kind of comments are banned in *buntu channels
[09:28] <uga> (for kids)
[09:28] <hyper_ch> william: envy should be able to isntall ati drivers - I've heard... but I have no experience either with them
[09:28] <Arv3n> hyper_ch is an asshat.
[09:28] <Arv3n> ASSHAT.
[09:28] <Arv3n> thats right i said it.
[09:28] <william> ?
[09:28] <Arv3n> i should put him on my ignore list. (H)
[09:29] <hyper_ch> Arv3n: go ahead :)
[09:29] <Arv3n> hyper_ch, how?
[09:29] <hyper_ch> Arv3n: depends on your client
[09:29] <william> not your how do i get the program to run from menu instead of term
[09:29] <uga> Arv3n: I got kickbanned once for comments ligher than those
[09:29] <hyper_ch> Arv3n: generally just type:   /ignore username
[09:29] <Arv3n> sweet. done.
[09:29] <uga> s/ligher/lighter
[09:29] <Arv3n> uga, its ok.
[09:29] <Arv3n> i got banned from the sabayon linux channel twice.
[09:29] <william> Arv3n,  how do i get the program to run from menu instead of term
[09:30] <hyper_ch> of course you should replace username with the real username used ;)
[09:30] <Arv3n> william, it should be on there. try logging out then in.
[09:30] <uga> Arv3n: no, I mean for comments like those done by hyper_ch, not yours ;)
[09:30] <william> ok will do brb
[09:30] <Arv3n> well, still.
[09:30] <Arv3n> =|
[09:31] <hyper_ch> william: what's the actual problem?
[09:31] <Arv3n> ok!
[09:32] <Arv3n> lets put some maplestory on this here xp.
[09:32] <william> i have installed programes and they are not on main menu
[09:32] <william> hyper_ch,
[09:33] <uga> william: maybe those programs didn't install properly. They need to provide a .desktop file
[09:33] <uga> which are those proggies?
[09:33] <hyper_ch> william: because they are terminal applications I guess
[09:33] <uga> at least one of them
[09:33] <hyper_ch> william: what did you install?
[09:34] <william> they show up in apt as being installed on add and remove
[09:34] <uga> william: yes, but which are the names of those programs
[09:34] <william> firefox,xchat
[09:34] <uga> some older programs didn't know anything about menus and desktop files. And terminal programs don't either
[09:35] <uga> william: ok, those should definetely show up in the menu
[09:35] <uga> william: that's very strange. firefox shows up just fine for me. Maybe the menu isn't refreshed properly?
[09:36] <uga> i'ts under Applications->internet
[09:36] <uga> isn't i thtere for you?
[09:36] <william> plus i hate the menu i liked it the kde3 way
[09:36] <william> i know but its not there
[09:36] <hyper_ch> william: they show up in my menu
[09:36] <uga> william: you can have a kde3-like menu in kde4
[09:36] <Arv3n> william, try the traditional menu
[09:36] <hyper_ch> william: besides, you can add the old menu
[09:36] <william> how
[09:36] <uga> william: right click->add widgets->
[09:36] <uga> and search "menu"
[09:36] <Arv3n> its a widget
[09:37] <uga> you0ll see two of them
[09:38] <william> ok got the menu still no xchat and firefox
[09:40] <uga> uhm, might be some issue with xdg dirs?
[09:40] <uga> I run 4.2 so I really cannot reproduce
[09:40] <hyper_ch> william: strange... worked for me
[09:41] <hyper_ch> william: are you using kde 4.2 beta 2?
[09:41] <william> how  do i find out
[09:41] <Arv3n> uga, same here. o.o
[09:41] <Arv3n> does 4.2 kick ass or what
[09:41] <hyper_ch> william: did you add  any third party repos?
[09:41] <william> yup
[09:41] <hyper_ch> william: pastebin the result of:   cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:42] <Arv3n> william, you aren't running 4.2.
[09:42] <uga> william: if you don't know, possibly you aren't running it
[09:43] <uga> as Arv3n said... you are possibly running 4.1
[09:43] <uga> running 4.2 requires tweaking settings
[09:43] <Arv3n> uga, he said he was running 4.1.3
[09:43] <Arv3n> i think
[09:43] <Arv3n> unless that was somebody else.
[09:43] <uga> ahk
[09:44] <Arv3n> i dunno i was trying to ignore him. ><
[09:44] <hyper_ch> william: if you are running 4.1.3 you might want to give 4.2 beta 2 a chance
[09:46] <uga> hyper_ch: never _ever_ suggest betas and unstable software to n00bs
[09:47] <william> http://pastebin.com/d3e0f4d18
[09:47] <uga> william: unless you are very experienced, I don't suggets running betas. The desktop can break any time
[09:47] <hyper_ch> william: why do you mix ubuntu and debian repositories?
[09:48] <uga> uhmm... mepis?
[09:48] <william> yup
[09:48] <uga> not a good idea
[09:48] <william> mepis
[09:48] <hyper_ch> william: why???
[09:48] <hyper_ch> william: you should not mix ubuntu and debian repos
[09:48] <uga> william: it might be that firefox debs are installed from mepis
[09:48] <william> some off the programs i like
[09:48] <hyper_ch> this will lead to trouble
[09:48] <uga> william: you have all those programs from ubuntu/kubuntu
[09:48] <william> oh i see now
[09:48] <hyper_ch> what programs don't you have in the ubuntu repos?
[09:49] <william> why dont kubuntu use fire fox xchat
[09:50] <uga> william: there's xchat and firefox in kubuntu/ubuntu
[09:50] <william> bibletime
[09:50] <uga> william: they are just not the defaults
[09:50] <william> gnomesword
[09:50] <william> bible memory
[09:51] <william> and few more too
[09:51] <uga> william: http://ubuntu.nad.go.id/ubuntu/pool/universe/b/bibletime/
[09:51] <uga> william: those seem to be under ubuntu universe
[09:51] <hyper_ch> william: bibletime is in the ubuntu repos
[09:52] <uga> hyper_ch: will you stop repeating =)
[09:52] <hyper_ch> william: gnomesword also
[09:52] <william> i got them on the menu now just not fire fox and xchat
[09:52] <hyper_ch> william: well, mixing debian and ubuntu repos is not recommended at all
[09:52] <william> they loaded fine when i installed those other ones
[09:53] <hyper_ch> william: it might explain why firefox and xchat don't appear in the menu... although I doubt it's because of the mixing of repos
[09:53] <hyper_ch> william: you can manually add xchat and ff to the menu
[09:53] <uga> [10:53:10] <hyper_ch> william: it might explain why firefox and xchat don't appear in the menu... although I doubt it's because of the mixing of repos
[09:54] <hyper_ch> william: or you could see if an upgrade to kde 4.1.2 beta 2 will fix the problem (which I doubt)
[09:54] <uga> contradicting statements
[09:54] <uga> ?
[09:54] <uga> firs you say it's the reason and then that it's not?
[09:54] <chalcedony> personal attention is nice
[09:54] <uga> heh
[09:55] <uga> again... hyper_ch: please don't ever suggest BETAs to NOOBs!
[09:55] <uga> installing unstable software is never the way
[09:55] <william> can i down grade
[09:55] <uga> william: no, you cannot
[09:56] <uga> kde 4.2 apps use different config files
[09:56] <uga> so if you go up and then down, it might not work
[09:56] <uga> ie, apps may behave strange
[09:56] <william> hmm
[09:57] <william> ok what i do to install programs in menu
[09:57] <uga> william: you could try removing the mepis repo, and resintalling the app
[09:57] <hyper_ch> william: right-click the "K Menu" and select to edit it
[09:57] <uga> I have a suspcicion that firefox and xchat were installed from those
[09:57] <hyper_ch> william: then make new entries where you want them
[09:57] <uga> william: and else, jus tlike hyper_ch commented, add the entry manually
[09:58] <hyper_ch> william: as command to launch firefox just enter "firefox"
[09:58] <hyper_ch> william: and for Xchat just "xchat"
[09:58] <hyper_ch> william: and then find icons for them :)
[09:59] <gps23> hi
[09:59] <gps23> how can i start the pulseaudio?
[09:59] <Arv3n> LMFAO
[10:00] <Arv3n> he tried to install it from the mepis repo?
[10:00] <Arv3n> what kind of nonsense is that?
[10:00] <hyper_ch> kubuntu does not use pulseaudio if I'm not mistaken
[10:00] <uga> it can be used, although it's said it's troublesome
[10:00] <gps23> hyper_ch, oh, thats y its was not installed by default, but mplayer required it so its installed it
[10:01] <hyper_ch> gps23: kubuntu uses phonon... but done't ask me how they all interact with each other
[10:02] <gps23> hyper_ch, actually mplayer's frontend was giving error on audio and there wasn't any sound in movie files, but vlc was running fine
[10:02] <gps23> hyper_ch, i checked that mplayer frontend is trying to use pulse audio, so i installed it
[10:03] <hyper_ch> gps23: good luck... as said, I don't ahve to do much with pulse audio as I never really used it
[10:03] <gps23> hyper_ch, i will remove pulseaudio, i am happy with alsa :)
[10:03] <uga> gps23: at least in kde4, if you open systemsettings
[10:03] <uga> gps23: go to multimedia
[10:04] <uga> gps23: device preference -> music
[10:04] <uga> you have "pulseaudio" as option
[10:04] <uga> so that phonon can use it as backend
[10:04] <uga> that's the theory. Not sure if it works
[10:04] <gps23> uga, in system settings i am unable to find multimedia
[10:04] <uga> uhm... this is 4.2 from svn
[10:05] <gps23> mine is default 4.1.2
[10:05] <uga> gps23: search music in the search bar
[10:05] <uga> in system settings
[10:05] <uga> I have multimedia. Maybe kubuntu renamed it?
[10:05] <gps23> uga, it, there is a setting regarding sound
[10:05] <uga> ok, if you enter there
[10:05] <uga> do you have "audio output" on the left?
[10:06] <uga> I have Audio Output->Music
[10:06] <gps23> uga, i am searching, negative till now
[10:06] <uga> and Options like "pulse audio", "HDA intel"...
[10:06] <uga> gps23: uhm, maybe somebody running 4.1 can help better
[10:06] <uga> anybody here? :/
[10:06] <shreedhar> Yes
[10:06] <gps23> uga, on the right pane, i selected Audio Output->music, then on left pane there is only one entry HDA Intel
[10:07] <gps23> uga, nothing can be changed here
[10:07] <uga> shreedhar: do you know where the audio config is in 4.1?
[10:07] <uga> ah, shame
[10:07] <uga> maybe some backend missing for 4.1
[10:07] <gps23> uga, i think i should remove pulseaudio and set alsa as audio codec in mplayer's rc
[10:08] <gps23> uga, because vlc is running fine, so i mplayer from command line, but its only mplayer's frontend which is causing problem
[10:09] <uga> not sure what to suggest there. I haven't tweaked mplayer settings for a while
[10:09] <uga> gps23: http://www.ugarro.com/tmp/audio.png
[10:09] <uga> just to show how it looks like in recent kde versions
[10:09] <gps23> mplayer's log sayis this "AO: [pulse] Failed to connect to server: Connection refused
[10:09] <gps23> AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
[10:09] <gps23> "
[10:10] <gps23> uga, it is first trying pulse then falling back to alsa
[10:10] <uga> gps23: maybe something is taking over alsa?
[10:10] <shreedhar> Please take my long dick in your mouth
[10:10] <uga> try killall artsd
[10:10] <gps23> but mplayer's frontend is not falling back and there is no audio there
[10:10] <uga> !op
[10:10] <uga> please look at shreedhar
[10:10] <uga> thanks
[10:11] <gps23> uga, good, well deserved
[10:12] <gps23> nice try by changing nick
[10:13] <gps23> uga, thanks, going to enjoy my movie now :)
[10:51] <Anubis> is there any way to clear the history from all kde apps with one click :D ?
[10:55] <siegie> Anubis: sweeper?
[10:58] <Anubis> is it working well with kde3 ?
[11:01] <deamoon> morning ppl
[11:01] <siegie> Anubis: i use kde4 ..
[11:02] <Anubis> siegie: oh, i see
[11:02] <Anubis> i'm using kde 3 :D
[11:03] <Anubis> for now i'm not a big fan of 4 version
[11:14] <alecks> NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
[11:17] <jepong> good day! i'm having problem with kubuntu on wubi... i can't login
[11:17] <jepong> hope there's someone who can help
[11:18] <jepong> these just happen after i update the system
[11:22] <hyper_ch> who knows ruby?
[11:23] <aotianlong> hyper_ch:  ME
[11:23] <hyper_ch> aotianlong: how do you echo a variable in ruby?
[11:23] <aotianlong> puts
[11:23] <aotianlong> a = "a"
[11:23] <aotianlong> puts a
[11:23] <DreadKnight> is there some hotkey to easly enable/disable kwin compositing?
[11:24] <hyper_ch> aotianlong: will try :) thx
[11:24] <aotianlong> hyper_ch: :)
[11:24] <hyper_ch> aotianlong: works fine :)
[11:25] <hyper_ch> soon I have "now playing" again :)
[11:26] <aotianlong> i'm a ruby programmer
[11:27] <hyper_ch> aotianlong: ruby is too complicated for my simple brain ;)
[11:27] <Anubis> how easy or hard is to learn ruby for a person who never programmed or have just some basics knowledge of programming ?
[11:27] <hyper_ch> aotianlong: I just know PHP, some Java and some LotusScript
[11:28] <aotianlong> hyper_ch: i know php , java too.
[11:28] <hyper_ch> aotianlong: and c?
[11:28] <aotianlong> a bit.
[11:28] <aotianlong> c ++
[11:29] <hyper_ch> ^^
[11:29] <dr_willis> Anubis,  depends on what you want to do with it.. I imagine the basics is not too hard tolearn.
[11:34] <DreadKnight> is there some hotkey to easly enable/disable kwin compositing?
[11:36] <peterz> hi, I just installed the 4.2-beta packages a few things I noticed:
[11:36] <dr_willis> I recall a desktop-widgit that could do that DreadKnight .  but not seen any hotkeys
[11:36] <peterz> I get all these palete things all over my desktop (like those in the upper-right hand corner) -- how to get rid of those?
[11:36] <DreadKnight> oh thanks
[11:37] <peterz> when I extend the panel to full size, its 1 pixel off onto the left hand xinerama screen
[11:37] <peterz> (no such 1 off on the right hand though)
[11:37] <peterz> and, when I try to hide some icons in the icon-tray (a nice new feature) the whole contraption becomes too high to fit into the panel
[11:37] <hyper_ch> aotianlong: wanna optimize the script? ^^
[11:38]  * hyper_ch is listening to Farin Urlaub & The Racing Team - Apocalypse Mal Anders [Live In Offenbach 24.05.2005, 2005]
[11:39] <hyper_ch> aotianlong: the only thing that's missing is to get the amarok version
[11:41] <aotianlong> is there any ruby amarok binding libary eixsts?
[11:41] <hyper_ch> aotianlong: don't know
[11:42] <hyper_ch> aotianlong: I get data of the song played using this:  `qdbus org.mpris.amarok /Player GetMetadata 2> /dev/null`.chomp
[11:42] <hyper_ch> aotianlong: but this here.   `qdbus org.mpris.amarok /Player version`.chomp   just returns:   Error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod\nNo such method 'version' in any interface at object path '/Player' (signature ''
[11:44] <hyper_ch> aotianlong: it's not important but would be nice :)
[11:45] <aotianlong> irb(main):013:0> `amarok --version`.match(/^Amarok\:(.+)/i).captures
[11:45] <aotianlong> => [" 1.4.10"]
[11:46] <hyper_ch> aotianlong: good idea :) thx
[11:49] <hyper_ch> aotianlong: how do you escape a character in ruby?
[11:49] <hyper_ch> it's not backslash
[11:49] <aotianlong> what do you want?
[11:49] <aotianlong> some code?
[11:50] <aotianlong> "\\","\t"
[11:50] <aotianlong> escape
[11:50] <hyper_ch> I want to escape a "
[11:50] <aotianlong> "
[11:50] <hyper_ch> and tried to escape it by:  \"
[11:50] <aotianlong> "\""
[11:51] <hyper_ch> aotianlong: output += "\"#{title}\""
[11:51] <hyper_ch> it doesn't like that escape
[11:53] <aotianlong> what do you expect.
[11:53] <dr_willis> http://www.meshplex.org/wiki/Ruby/Escape_Character_Sequence    Perhaps
[11:54] <hyper_ch> aotianlong: I misread error message :)
[11:54] <hyper_ch> aotianlong: that escape works fine
[11:54] <aotianlong> hyper_ch:  yes
[11:54] <aotianlong> it's right
[11:55] <dr_willis> http://www.zenspider.com/Languages/Ruby/Cookbook/Strings/EscapingCharacters.html
[11:57]  * hyper_ch is listening to Evanescence - Taking Over Me v.1 [Demos 2001-2002]
[11:57]  * hyper_ch is listening to Evanescence - Taking Over Me v.1 [Demos 2001-2002] (Amarok  2.0)
[11:58]  * dr_willis wonders who else cares what hyper_ch  is listing to... :)
[11:58]  * dr_willis jams to some Kenny G.
[11:59] <aotianlong> ...
[12:00] <aotianlong> how to broadcast current listening to here?
[12:00] <aotianlong> i'm using konversation.
[12:00] <dr_willis> In short.. dont. :)
[12:00] <dr_willis> some plugin i imagine
[12:01] <aotianlong> maybe.
[12:02] <aotianlong> http://cdn1-77.projectplaylist.com/e1/static10/349/498873.mp3
[12:02] <aotianlong> not kenny G
[12:03] <bazhang> aotianlong, dont do in this channel, but normally /media will do that
[12:03] <bazhang> aotianlong, if you are using amarok afaik
[12:04] <bazhang> maybe try in a #test channel, as even the offtopic channels frown on that sort of thing (flood)
[12:04] <aotianlong> bazhang: ok
[12:05] <hyper_ch> aotianlong: now I got it :)
[12:05]  * hyper_ch is listening to 'Touch The Hand' by 'Bryan Adams' on 'Waking Up The Neighbours' (anno: 1991) - [Amarok 2.0]
[12:05] <bazhang> flood...
[12:06]  * aotianlong is listening to 画心.mp3 [Audacious]
[12:06] <aotianlong> :)
[12:06] <aotianlong> haha
[12:06] <hyper_ch> bazhang: /media doesn't work anymore in kde4 with konversation from kde 3.5
[12:07] <bazhang> hyper_ch, good to know (though I never do that anyways)
[12:07] <aotianlong> hyper_ch:  it works for me.
[12:07] <hyper_ch> aotianlong: but you're not using amarok 2
[12:10] <asp> hey! when accessing cdrom from the desktop, it said cannot change to folder because it is not local
[12:10] <asp> and it doesn't work in any audio players
[12:11] <hyper_ch> asp: did you mount it?
[12:14] <HavocXphere> Anybody know what the key combo is to type in unicode special chars?
[12:18] <wizard_> Moin Moin
[12:20] <wizard_> i have a problem with the dolphin in kubuntu 8.10  (kde 4.1 standard installation 64 bit system on a intel core dou system) everytime i use the split screen the app goes whery slow and brokes down. hase anyone else this problem to?
[12:21] <siegie> wizard_: i had some performance problems with dolphin when nepomuk was enabled
[12:22] <wizard_> ohh thats korrekt i saw something like this to.
[12:22] <wizard_> shut down nepomuk or do you have a workaround?
[12:30] <wizard_> knows anybody why the kde team develops the dolphin app and kick the konqueror for this party ready program away? konqueror could do all that dolphin could and many more.
[12:35] <reanimation> #ubuntu
[12:37] <wildbat> hi i am new to linux, anyone a good AV program?
[12:37] <Hell_Kaiser> you don't need antivirus on linux
[12:38] <sebastian> depends on what u are doing
[12:39] <sebastian> if u are downloading linux apps from bittorrent it can be good to have one
[12:40] <Hell_Kaiser> ClamAV then
[12:41] <sebastian> and if u want a GUI its klamAv
[13:09] <lsmith> aloha .. trying to install vmware tools .. seems like the recommended mode for this is in failsafe mode
[13:09] <lsmith> unfortunately when i try to get into fail safe mode i get "unable to launch failsafe X session"
[13:09] <lsmith> any hints?
[13:12] <lsmith> "x-terminal emulator not found"
[13:15] <lsmith> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/294832
[13:26] <nahy> hey guy how can i know which version is my KDE?
[13:29] <florian> Hallo?
[13:32] <gennady> hi all привет усем!
[13:33] <bazhang> !ru
[13:34] <gennady> привет всем
[13:34] <bazhang> gennady, #ubuntu-ru
[13:35] <JontheEchidna> nahy: Got to Help -> About KDE in any KDE application
[13:36] <gennady> можно вопрос чайника?
[13:38] <bazhang> gennady, english only here
[13:38] <bazhang> gennady, you are in #ubuntu-ru please speak russian there and english here
[13:39] <pjammer> kde 4.1 is pretty slick.
[13:45] <stsi> Hallo zusammen. Ich habe ein Problem mit meiner Webcam und dem Programm cheese. es funktioniert nur in der niedrigsten Auflösung bei höheren Auflösungen kommt kein Bild. woran kann das liegen oder was mache ich falsch?
[13:45] <bazhang> !de
[13:58] <vega_> Hey guys.  I'm trying to install a USB joystick, but I have no idea how to start
[13:58] <hyper_ch> plug it in
[13:58] <vega_> Well okay, I know how to start.
[13:58] <vega_> But how do I know if its working without having to isntall a game first?
[13:59] <vega_> Isn't there some way to see all the connected USB devices in ubuntu?
[13:59] <hyper_ch> run    lsusb   in a terminal
[13:59] <vega_> Okay, thanks!
[13:59] <hyper_ch> and if it's listed run:  dmesg
[14:00] <vega_> Woah, dmesg lists a lot of stuff.
[14:00] <vega_> lsusb displayed 2 logitech devices, which I'm assuming is my headset (usb) and my joystick (also usb)
[14:00] <vega_> Both of them are logitech.
[14:00] <hyper_ch> in dmesg only the last few entries are interesting
[14:01] <vega_> Ah yes, found it
[14:01] <vega_> I guess its working, thanks.
[14:01] <vega_> I really expected to have to do some sort of installation
[14:01] <vega_> But I guess ubuntu > windows
[14:01] <hyper_ch> well, it doesn't mean that everything runs
[14:01] <vega_> Yeah, good point.
[14:02] <hyper_ch> it only means basically linux know what device that is
[14:02] <hyper_ch> if it listed unknown device that would have been bad
[14:02] <vega_> Well, I'm going to install a game and see if it works with that.  I might be back.
[14:02] <vega_> Thanks for the help.
[14:03] <lsmith> narf .. wtf is this?
[14:03] <lsmith> i cannot boot into failsafe mode
[14:04] <lsmith> and when i do a console based login /tmp is whiped
[14:04] <Guest80311> i'm sorry icann't installmy webcam
[14:04] <lsmith> none of the stuff i put there during my last kde login is available
[14:04] <Guest80311> ok
[14:05] <Guest80311> my webcam is a microsoft lifecam 1000
[14:06] <Guest80311> who can help me?
[14:17] <Dragnslcr> lsmith- /tmp isn't meant for long-term storage. I believe it's emptied when you reboot
[14:25] <BluesKaj> Heyas
[14:38] <nahy> how can i find which version of KDE i'm using?
[14:38] <tienluc> help
[14:39] <tienluc> help
[14:40] <nahy> tienluc: type your question instead of shouting help
[14:43] <nahy> how can i find which version of KDE i'm using?
[14:43] <dr_willis> about menu item  - in most every kde app.. has some #'s
[14:46] <SirMArtin> hi everyone, is this an english room or is it possible to speak german?
[14:48] <nahy> how can i find which version of KDE i'm using?
[14:48] <bazhang> #ubuntu-de for german SirMArtin
[14:49] <SirMArtin> thx
[14:51] <nahy> guys can't anyone help me?
[14:52] <nahy> how can i find which version of KDE i'm using?
[14:52] <tomaz_cooking> people, is libfam broken on apt?
[14:52] <tomaz_cooking> nahy : open any kde-program and go to help -> about kde
[14:52] <nahy> ok thx
[14:52] <tomaz_cooking> for instance, konqueror or dolphin.
[14:53] <nahy> thank you so much
[14:53] <tomaz_cooking> you`re welcome.
[14:53] <tomaz_cooking> if you`re using 4.0.x please, try to upgrade to 4.1
[14:53] <nahy> i'm using hardy, can i upgrade from 3.5 to 4.1
[14:54] <tomaz_cooking> actually  I think you can.
[14:54] <tomaz_cooking> but before you do that
[14:54] <tomaz_cooking> there`s still some stuff missing in kde 4.1
[14:54] <nahy> so y should you suggest it?
[14:55] <tomaz_cooking> so , if you use tellico, konversation, you need to find new programs to do the same work, or wait for a port
[14:55] <tomaz_cooking> and if you use amarok, the interface is diferent and there`s stuff missing, since they didn`t finished porting everything yet.
[14:56] <tomaz_cooking> I suggest that *if* you like to try, and has no worries on learning how new things works, you will find kde 4.1 more pleasant to use than 3.5
[14:57] <nahy> ok and what should i do for upgrade?
[14:58] <tomaz_cooking> nahy: the instructions are provided here: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2
[14:58] <nahy> thank you my friend
[14:59] <SirMArtin> I'm back. I have some questions regarding ssh. I load my ssh-keys during the start-up of kde with a skript (ssh-add) placed in the "Autostart" folder in my home directory. during the start-up i'm asked to enter my password for the key. can I add the password to the kwallet, so that I do not have to enter two passwords at startup?
[14:59] <tomaz_cooking> SirMArtin: don`t know, but it`s more likely that somebody at #kde knows the answer better than here.
[15:00] <nahy> i'm leaving and thank you again
[15:01] <SirMArtin> thx, i'll try my question over there...
[15:08] <kubuntu_user> hello...
[15:09] <kubuntu_user> есть кто живой?
[15:09] <bazhang> !ru | kubuntu_user
[15:23] <ubuntu__> hi all
[15:23] <jackpot_2001> hey
[15:24] <jackpot_2001> what version of kde4 you running?
[15:24] <ubuntu__> I am using 8.10/KDE 4.1.2 live cd
[15:24] <Tm_T> jackpot_2001: 4.2
[15:25] <ubuntu__> man what a difference it is
[15:25] <ubuntu__> not sure I like it
[15:25] <ubuntu__> I cant use the desktop anymore
[15:25] <Dragnslcr> Why not?
[15:25] <Tm_T> actually, KDE 4.1.86 (KDE 4.2 >= 20081221)
[15:25] <spawn57> Tm_T: hey, how's kde 4.2? is kopete working well?
[15:25] <Dragnslcr> And just wait until 4.2. Much nicer
[15:26] <garri> hello, is there anyone willing to help me out a little bit? I am having issues with the sound...there is no sound at all...I am very new to this enviroment so please show patience. I lost my sound after rebooting my system yesterday. I remember I had some issues getting the sound to work when I installed the system but I found it out somehow, but now I have totally forgot what I did.
[15:26] <marcello> Haloooo!
[15:26] <ubuntu__> have to use a window to put your stuff on
[15:26] <Tm_T> spawn57: sure it is, for me atleast =)
[15:26] <Dragnslcr> ubuntu__- you just add a folder view to the desktop that points to ~/Desktop
[15:26] <Dragnslcr> You don't really notice the difference
[15:27] <Tm_T> !sound | garri
[15:27] <jackpot_2001> anyone tried 4.2 yet?
[15:27] <Tm_T> Dragnslcr: because there isn't
[15:27] <hyper_ch> jackpot_2001: yes
[15:27] <Tm_T> jackpot_2001: using
[15:27] <Dragnslcr> I actually like 4.2 better. With auto-hiding panels, I put a folder view in a panel on the left edge
[15:27] <jackpot_2001> stability issues?
[15:27] <Tm_T> jackpot_2001: not here
[15:27] <hyper_ch> jackpot_2001: works better than 4.1
[15:28] <Tm_T> Dragnslcr: no icons in my desktop since, ummm, 2004 ?
[15:28] <jackpot_2001> really?
[15:28] <hyper_ch> jackpot_2001: yes
[15:28] <Dragnslcr> Tm_T- hehe
[15:28] <yuh> I have a problem with kunbuntu 8.10 sound problem
[15:28] <Dragnslcr> I've had plasma crash a few times when trying to get plasmoids set up, but no problems at all in normal use
[15:28] <yuh> the sound always have cracking, not continuous sound
[15:28] <Tm_T> yuh: päev
[15:29] <yuh> I tried to update and google the solution but not has any luck
[15:29] <yuh> Moi
[15:29] <Tm_T> !fi | yuh
[15:29] <Tm_T> also
[15:29] <Tm_T> !sound | yuh
[15:29] <ubuntu__> plazmoids= widgets?
[15:29] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: yes
[15:29] <Dragnslcr> ubuntu__- yeah
[15:30] <a_h_roth> Hello.  I think that my MBR or grub got munged, and I'm not sure how to fix it.  When I boot from the HD, the BIOS just loads grub, and then the whole computer reboots (this continues in an infinite loop).  When I load kubuntu from the live CD, I can use Dolphin to browse the partitions just fine.  But fdisk says that it can't open /dev/sda, and grub->find /boot/grub/stage1 gives me Error 15: File Not Found.  Does anyone have any idea
[15:30] <a_h_roth> how I can fix the boot record or partition table or whatever's broken without having to reinstall kubuntu?
[15:30] <jackpot_2001> any idea how do i upgrade my kde 4.1.3 to 4.2
[15:31] <jackpot_2001> running intrepid kubuntu
[15:31] <Dragnslcr> jackpot_2001- http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2
[15:31] <hyper_ch> jackpot_2001: or you can use my repo generator
[15:31] <jackpot_2001> oh yeah....that would help
[15:32] <hyper_ch> jackpot_2001: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch
[15:32] <ubuntu__> I guess we ahve no choice to use 4+, eh?
[15:32] <BluesKaj> !grub | a_h_roth
[15:32] <ubuntu__> i kinda liked the fuction of the previous version
[15:33] <ubuntu__> it may be cause I havent used this enough to become aquianted
[15:33] <ubuntu__> (sp)
[15:33] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: in intrepid there is only KDE4
[15:33] <Dragnslcr> ubuntu__- you start to like KDE4 pretty quickly
[15:34] <ubuntu__> I have been using 4.0 (beta) for like 5 months now
[15:34] <a_h_roth> Thanks ubottu, but I tried that already.  Both find /boot/grub/stage1 and find /grub/stage1 return Error 15: File Not Found.
[15:34] <ubuntu__> lol, about time I get the stable version
[15:34] <Tm_T> ubuntu__: I tried KDE4 first time 2 and a half years ago
[15:35] <ubuntu__> I LOVE the look
[15:35] <Dragnslcr> I would say that 8.10 should have stayed with KDE3 by default, though. I think KDE 4.2 is the first version that's at least as good as 3.5
[15:35] <Tm_T> Dragnslcr: I unfortunately cannot agree with you
[15:35] <ubuntu__> big statement Dragnslcr
[15:35] <Tm_T> anyway
[15:35] <Tm_T> !ot | ubuntu__ Dragnslcr
[15:36] <a_h_roth> What I don't understand is how Dolphin can surf the partitions, but fdisk and grub find can't.
[15:37] <Dragnslcr> I'm just glad the updated version of phonon doesn't crash
[15:38] <ubuntu__> So do I have to use that 'icon platter' to keep my stuff on? I noticed I cant delete them there.
[15:38] <Dragnslcr> a_h_roth- does fdisk -l list all of the disks?
[15:38] <jackpot_2001> upgrading to 4.2///
[15:38] <jackpot_2001> ;0
[15:39] <a_h_roth> Dragnslcr: no.  For the hard drive (sda) it says "Cannot open /dev/sda.".
[15:39] <Dragnslcr> a_h_roth- oh, you need sudo
[15:39] <Dragnslcr> sudo fdisk -l
[15:40] <White_Pelican> I decided to reinstall my system and since I'm not ready for kde 4 as a production system, I would like to test the latest kde 4 avaialbel to hardy heron. I noticed in adept there is kde 4, but is it the latest avaialble?
[15:40] <a_h_roth> Dragnslcr: that's better.  yes, it lists all the drives now.
[15:40] <a_h_roth> I'm a moron.
[15:40] <spawn57> Tm_T: kopete works alright in kde 4.1, but I'm hoping it's much better in 4.2
[15:40] <a_h_roth> I ran sudo grub, and it's finding the boot partitions now.
[15:40] <a_h_roth> Sorry to waste your time.
[15:40] <minus18_pundit> how to setup broadband connection in ubuntu?
[15:40] <a_h_roth> Thanks for the help, though.
[15:40] <Dragnslcr> a_h_roth- no poblem, glad to help
[15:41] <Dragnslcr> Sometimes it's the obvious stuff that you forget about
[15:41] <ubuntu__> So do I have to use that 'icon platter' to keep my stuff on? I noticed I cant delete them there.
[15:41] <Dragnslcr> I can't even count how many hours I've wasted trying to fix a problem when the first thing I should have checked is "Is it plugged in?"
[15:41] <BluesKaj> a_h_roth, alt+f2 , kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst , then post the text in pastebin
[15:41] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[15:42] <Dragnslcr> ubuntu__- not sure what you mean
[15:42] <a_h_roth> Thanks. Dragnslcr.  BluesKaj, I think my problem is solved.
[15:42] <BluesKaj> a_h_roth, cool, glad to hear that :)
[15:43] <a_h_roth> I'll reboot now, but I'll log back in to tell you if it worked.  Bye, now.
[15:43] <ubuntu__> I'm on the live cd... and hat I see is a sweet looking semi-transparent window with icons on it
[15:43] <Dragnslcr> ubuntu__- you mean on the desktop?
[15:43] <ubuntu__> as opposed to having the icons on the desktop
[15:43] <ubuntu__> yes
[15:43] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, that's a folder view widget
[15:44] <ubuntu__> ahh gotcha
[15:44] <Dragnslcr> You can have as many as you want on the desktop or panels
[15:44] <Dragnslcr> And you can point them to any directory you want
[15:44] <ubuntu__> so having direct access of the desktp is a no no now?
[15:44] <ubuntu__> I'm kinda trying
[15:45] <ubuntu__> to firgure out the change
[15:45] <Dragnslcr> Instead of the desktop just showing the files in the ~/Desktop directory, it's a place to put widgets
[15:45] <ubuntu__> sorry for not being clear
[15:46] <ubuntu__> ok got it
[15:46] <a_h_roth> Thanks Dragnslcr, BluesKaj.  Everything's happy now.
[15:46] <Dragnslcr> The obvious first thing to put there is a folder view that shows ~/Desktop
[15:46] <Dragnslcr> a_h_roth- nice
[15:47] <ubuntu__> now what about installing a deb package
[15:47] <Dragnslcr> Right-click on it, and one of the options should be something like "Install"
[15:48] <jackpot_2001> i cannot get network manager working on my intrepid
[15:48] <ubuntu__> I noticed I cant right click on the package and click 'install' like in 3.5
[15:48] <jackpot_2001> i mean wifi wep connection
[15:48] <ubuntu__> what do I need to do different
[15:50] <Dragnslcr> Right-click -> Open With -> GDebi
[15:51] <ubuntu__> cool
[15:51] <ubuntu__> I wasnt able to do that in 4.0
[15:52] <ubuntu__> thats what Iget for using a beta for an everyday OS
[15:52] <red22> i create a new .kde folder and everything is fine for a few system restarts (at least one or two) but then kde freezes right on login after showing the desktop and panels, etc.  i'm pretty sure it has something to do with me running compiz and some conflict with kde's own effects (even though i disable them before enabling compiz).  would there be a log file or something that provides a hint as to where the problem is?  btw, i have absolutely no
[15:52] <red22> problems with gnome+compiz on this same machine.
[15:55] <jackpot_2001> i cannot get network manager working on my intrepid
[15:55] <jackpot_2001>  wifi wep connection
[15:55] <Dragnslcr> red22- I know there are some issues with Compiz and KDE4. You can check /var/log for log files that might have errors in them
[15:57] <hyper_ch> jackpot_2001: is your wifi card recognized?
[15:57] <jackpot_2001> yup ..network manager show the ssid available
[15:58] <red22> Dragnslcr: it's odd bc everything works to absolute perfection with compiz and kde (when it's working, that is, at least until a few system restarts later) but then it suddenly freezes and i've diffed .kde/ before and after and i can't make sense of differences i find.  just no idea.
[15:58] <jackpot_2001> but when i configure the connection, and paste the key
[15:59] <jackpot_2001> into 128bit wep key option...it vanishes and
[15:59] <hyper_ch> jackpot_2001: why use wep???
[15:59] <jackpot_2001> when i open network manager again ,,i see the key in 64bit option
[16:01] <jackpot_2001> what do you suggest?
[16:01] <hyper_ch> I use WICD now
[16:02] <hyper_ch> and WEP can be hacked in a matter of minutes
[16:02] <jackpot_2001> i think 128 bit passphrase is fairly secure
[16:02] <hyper_ch> if you want to encrypt your wifi, use WPA2
[16:02] <jackpot_2001> not sure if my AP supports it
[16:02] <hyper_ch> jackpot_2001: I don't know either if your AP supports it
[16:07] <yuh> OSS doesn't work for my laptop
[16:08] <yuh> it doesn't find the hardware device
[16:08] <yuh> ossmix give me this information
[16:12] <jackpot_2001> will try it after the upgrade to 4.2 is complete
[16:12] <jackpot_2001> ;)
[16:12] <hyper_ch> jackpot_2001: you used the repository generator?
[16:12] <jackpot_2001> nope...just the standard repo from kubuntu page
[16:13] <jackpot_2001> what the advantage of repo generator
[16:14] <hyper_ch> jackpot_2001: have a look at it
[16:14] <Guest41429> hey guys, i installed a tool called cpufreqd to lower the frequency of my cpu... but since i installed it my cpu is always at 100% power ... even when i change cpu policy to dynamic or powersave its still at 100% removing cpufreqd led to nothing
[16:14] <altctrl> hi guys i got an upgrading qustion
[16:14] <jackpot_2001> oh..i see...not much for me....I am from India ...no local repo here
[16:15] <altctrl> i have kubuntu 8.04 and want to upgrade it to 8.10
[16:15] <hyper_ch> jackpot_2001: no one has added india yet ;)
[16:15] <altctrl> but adept manager does not give me the option to full upgrade
[16:15] <hyper_ch> altctrl: sudo update-manager -c -d
[16:15] <altctrl> then it iwll start it?
[16:16] <hyper_ch> yes
[16:16] <minus18_pundit> how to setup broadband connection in ubuntu?
[16:16] <altctrl> ok let me try
[16:16] <hyper_ch> minus18_pundit: normally that should be done with your modem/router
[16:17] <cstoner> minus18_pundit: Plug in your ethernet cable
[16:17] <minus18_pundit> well, i can connect to internet in windows
[16:18] <altctrl> well it said command not found
[16:19] <jackpot_2001> wicd looks intresting...
[16:19] <BluesKaj> minus18_pundit, have you tried configuring knetwork manager
[16:19] <jackpot_2001> anyone running it successfully..
[16:20] <altctrl> well what is wrong?
[16:20] <minus18_pundit> i dont know how to configure
[16:21] <hyper_ch> altctrl: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/10/22/network-upgrade-for-kubuntu-desktops-804-lts-810/
[16:21] <minus18_pundit> is there any how-to?
[16:21] <hyper_ch> jackpot_2001: I am
[16:21] <altctrl> thanks let me check
[16:21] <cstoner> jackpot_2001: I'm not, but I've heard good things about it
[16:21] <BluesKaj> !knetwork
[16:21] <minus18_pundit> any tutorial
[16:22] <hyper_ch> minus18_pundit: wifi or ethernet?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> !Network
[16:22] <BluesKaj> !dhcp
[16:23] <BluesKaj> !ethernet
[16:23] <BluesKaj> !info etherenet
[16:23] <BluesKaj> !info ethernet
[16:24] <BluesKaj> oh well, BBL ..errands to do.
[16:24] <arvind> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[16:25] <Malic1> is there kpdf or acroread for kde 4.1? seems to be not available in the repos?!
[16:25] <jackpot_2001> ubottu...ethernet is not a package...its how you are conneted to network
[16:25] <jackpot_2001> wired = ethernet
[16:25] <jackpot_2001> wireless = wifi
[16:25] <minus18_pundit> ethernet connection
[16:26] <cstoner> Malic1: It's okular now
[16:26] <Dragnslcr> Well, wireless is still technically Ethernet </pedant>
[16:26] <cstoner> minus18_pundit: If you plug in your ethernet cable it should just work.
[16:27] <edgy> Hi, when I log to Intrepid, my screen resolution is 800x600 or something like that andd when I open system-settings->display, it changes automatically to a nice 1280x800 without me touching any thing, now if I reboot it gets back to 800x600, what's this please?
[16:27] <jackpot_2001> yes...technically.
[16:28] <hyper_ch> Dragnslcr: technically ethernet is always treated as the lan cables
[16:28] <cstoner> edgy: You manually edited your xorg.conf file (well, I did when I had that problem). Put a Mode entry in for 1280x800 and it should work
[16:28] <edgy> cstoner: yes I once replaced it with an older copy or edited something maybe
[16:29] <Malic1> cstoner: thx
[16:29] <valentain> народ тут руские есть??
[16:29] <Tm_T> !ru | valentain
[16:29] <Dekans> Is someone running kubuntu with a ATI 48xx video card ?
[16:30] <cstoner> edgy: Yeah, Under SubSection Display of Section Screen add "1280x800" to the Modes line
[16:30] <edgy> cstoner: but I heard before that xorg.conf is deprecated and it's no longer needed, am I wrong?
[16:30] <Tm_T> Dekans: doing a poll?
[16:30] <Dekans> no
[16:30] <cstoner> edgy: you're correct. You can just as easily delete the Modes line and the rest should work
[16:30] <Dekans> I'm hoping someone can tell me how to suspend my computer :)
[16:30] <Dekans> it doesn't wanna work :(
[16:31] <edgy> cstoner: I don't have any mode line in the file
[16:31] <Dekans> I'm using catalyst driver v 8.12
[16:32] <altctrl> hyper_ it looks like its working now
[16:32] <cstoner> edgy: can you copy the xorg.conf file to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and give me the link?
[16:32] <edgy> cstoner: http://pastebin.ca/1295187
[16:34] <cstoner> edgy: Add a display subsection so that it looks like  http://paste.ubuntu.com/94385/
[16:35] <cstoner> change your resolutions if you want, but "1280x800" is the important one
[16:38] <Raidenovich> hey guys, i installed a tool called cpufreqd to lower the frequency of my cpu... but since i installed it my cpu is always at 100% power ... even when i change cpu policy to dynamic or powersave its still at 100% removing cpufreqd led to nothing
[16:39] <cstoner> Raidenovich: I didn't have to install anything to change the frequency of my cpu. What's your processor?
[16:40] <Raidenovich> AMD Athlon 64 X2 tl50 or something
[16:40] <Raidenovich> how can i determinate it?
[16:40] <Raidenovich> cstoner: model name      : AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-60
[16:42] <Aurelia> hallo
[16:43] <Aurelia> hhhaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllloooooooooooo
[16:43] <Aurelia> wdad
[16:43] <Arv3n> hi how r do
[16:44] <Aurelia> german??
[16:44] <cstoner> Raidenovich: I have no idea. Sorry. I didn't have to install anything
[16:44] <koukos> hi i need help because i am a total noob with linux
[16:44] <Raidenovich> anyway, thanks cstoner, i solved my problem :)
[16:44] <Aurelia> is someone speaking german
[16:44] <Aurelia> ??
[16:44] <Raidenovich> ja
[16:44] <cstoner> !german
[16:44] <Aurelia> was ist das hier??
[16:45] <cstoner> What do you need, koukos?
[16:45] <hyper_ch> !de | Aurelia_
[16:45] <Bob_Dylan> ok, hundred peoples online and no one using amarok 2. :(
[16:45] <Aurelia_> what do you mean ??
[16:45] <Aurelia_> ubottu
[16:45] <hyper_ch> Aurelia_: [16:45] <koukos> i dont't know how to download form paidshare with premium account
[16:45] <hyper_ch> Bob_Dylan: #amarok
[16:46] <koukos> a downloader maybe?/
[16:46] <koukos> rapidshare i mean
[16:46] <Bob_Dylan> ok hyper_ch
[16:46] <cstoner> koukos: Being specific is helpful
[16:47] <Raidenovich> koukos: install java runtime 6.0 and Jdownloader , you can find a link for Jdownloader with google
[16:47] <koukos> i have aa premium account in rapidshare and i want to use it with a download manager or something
[16:47] <pjammer> god/allah/whoever, bless you for fw-cutter.
[16:50] <edgy> hi cstoner
[16:50] <cstoner> hi edgy
[16:51] <edgy> cstoner: it's you who are helping me with my xorg file some mins ago, right?
[16:51] <cstoner> yes
[16:51] <edgy> cstoner: I put that subsection and rebooted but same problem
[16:53] <cstoner> Can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for me?
[16:54] <edgy> cstoner: I can but I removed the whole file and rebooted, is the log file still useful for you?
[16:55] <cstoner> nah. Did removing the file help?
[16:56] <edgy> cstoner: removing the file get me a good resolution out of the box but glxinfo and such applications fail with X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[16:57] <cstoner> What's your video card?
[16:57] <edgy> cstoner: ati
[16:58] <cstoner> I haven't had a ATI card since the dri drivers stopped working ;)
[16:58] <cstoner> sorry
[16:59] <cstoner> does fglrxinfo crash, too?
[17:00] <cstoner> edgy
[17:00] <edgy_> cstoner: out net here is not stable
[17:00] <cstoner> that's ok ;)
[17:00] <cstoner> does fglrxinfo crash, too?
[17:00] <edgy_> cstoner: a cable is cut somewhere;)
[17:00] <edgy_> cstoner: yes fglrxinfo crashes too
[17:01] <cstoner> sorry, I haven't had an ati card since the dri drivers stopped working. It's foreign to me
[17:01] <cstoner> Anyway, best of luck. I need to eat some food.
[17:01] <edgy_> cstoner: thanks dear
[17:03] <pjammer> is there a command to see what kind of RAM i have installed on my machine?
[17:04] <pjammer> i want to upgrade, and this computer is 3 yrs old.
[17:08] <pjammer> no?
[17:10] <francisc1701> pjammer: "cat /proc/meminfo"
[17:11] <deamoon> ido any1 know hw could i make stream on mine lan from linux box to windows plz let me kno ppl
[17:12] <pjammer> francisc1701: you the man, unless you a woman.
[17:13] <francisc1701> lol
[17:13] <pjammer> i saw canadaram had something for double the price that an american was selling it for...
[17:14] <edgy_> part
[17:15] <pjammer> man kubuntu even found my printer that is hooked up through my airport router... i' m impressed.
[17:15] <hyper_ch> pjammer: :)
[17:16] <francisc1701> how do I make Kopete (kde3) start with "Invisible" status?
[17:16] <pjammer> just trying a test page..... still waiting.
[17:27] <Muzer> where do I add apps to the K menu again
[17:27] <Muzer> ?
[17:28] <hyper_ch> Muzer: right-click KMenu
[17:28] <Muzer> oh yeah
[17:28] <Muzer> thanks
[17:33] <d_mitry> in kde 3.5, how to restart the desktop?
[17:33] <slow-motion> hi
[17:34] <jackpot_2001> ctrl+alt+backspace
[17:34] <d_mitry> i have to restart x to restart the desktop?!
[17:35] <jackpot_2001> not necessarilly
[17:35] <d_mitry> then how to restart the desktop?
[17:35] <d_mitry> because as far as i know, ctrl+alt+backspace restarts x.
[17:35] <jackpot_2001> you can start a alternate console (ctrl+f1..f6) kill kdm or gdm
[17:36] <jackpot_2001> and start it again i guess
[17:36] <d_mitry> but i don't want to close my current applications
[17:38] <d_mitry> oh, i see the misunderstanding her. by the desktop, i don't mean kde.
[17:38] <d_mitry> here*
[17:38] <d_mitry> i mean... the desktop.
[17:38] <d_mitry> the desktop that became a widget in kde 4.
[17:41] <Vrex> I just have to verify something here, I was trying to install kubuntu on an old comp in the basement and it simply did not want to boot into the installation program. It is possible to install Kubuntu from a DVD-R isn't it?
[17:42] <Vrex> It wouldn't surprise me if the drive was messed up so...
[17:42] <d_mitry> yay. i restarted kdesktop.
[17:43] <dr_willis> alt-ctrl-backspace forces X to instantly close.. :) thats  not quite the same thing..
[17:47] <Tm_T> yuh: ei
[17:51] <david__> anyone know how to get compiz on kubuntu?
[17:51] <hyper_ch> yes
[17:52] <jussi01> david__: the question is more about why? kwin does most of what compiz does anyway...
[17:52] <david__> jussi01does it have a cube ?
[17:53] <Tm_T> yes
[17:53]  * Tm_T doesn't understand this fuss about cube
[17:53] <jussi01> david__: not in the version supplied with 8.10, no.
[17:54] <david__> jussi01how bout fire paint and raindrops?
[17:54] <Tm_T> david__: snow rain we have
[17:55] <edju> KDE 3.5.  Looking for a prog/applet that will display the hard drive temp in the system tray.  Any suggestions?
[17:55] <david__> jussi01anyways im more familliar with compiz and would like to have it?
[17:56] <jussi01> david__: Ill leave that to others. IMHO it causes more trouble than its worth.
[17:59] <david__> does anyone know how to get compiz on kubuntu?
[18:00] <Tm_T> !compiz | david__
[18:00] <Tm_T> david__: also...
[18:01] <Tm_T> david__: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/kde4-compiz.png
[18:21] <White_Pelican> I had to reinstall my system from scratch and I went with hardy. How do I put kde 4 on here?
[18:22] <BluesKaj> !kde4
[18:24] <White_Pelican> ty BluesKaj
[18:25] <White_Pelican> so BluesKaj, it looks like I don't need deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main, correct?
[18:27] <BluesKaj> White_Pelican, i would include it for further apps updates
[18:27] <White_Pelican> ah
[18:27] <White_Pelican> cool
[18:27] <White_Pelican> ty :)
[18:27] <BluesKaj> NP :)
[18:27] <White_Pelican> too bad 4.2 beta 2 isn't available for hardy
[18:28] <White_Pelican> I am running intrepid in a virtual machine and it's getting closer
[18:31] <White_Pelican> it doesn't fulfill all my needs yet so I can't switch
[18:37] <marco_> Hi, I,m having a bit of a problem trying to upgrade a friend's machine that was on 7.04... I am trying to install 8.10  through the apt-get service but the upgrade tool crashes. I tried after that to install it through dvd, but the install process crash on startup hangs in the loading phase, any idewa what ocould cause this ? I'm using a Satellite Pro A100
[18:38] <hyper_ch> marco_: better and faster to do an 8.10 install
[18:39] <marco_> hyper_ch: that's what I did, with the boot cd... but it crashes on loading phase
[18:39] <marco_> hyper_ch: the kernel stalls
[18:39] <hyper_ch> marco_: try with acpi off
[18:39] <marco_> I did
[18:39] <hyper_ch> noapic
[18:39] <marco_> I did both
[18:39] <hyper_ch> marco_: did you check the cd for defects?
[18:41] <marco_> hyper_ch: I guess that could be the answer...
[18:41] <BluesKaj> upgrading from 7.04 directly to 8.10 won't work
[18:45] <White_Pelican> BluesKaj, you seem to be the resident expert today :) what's the best java to install for firefox?
[18:46] <hyper_ch> kubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:47] <White_Pelican> hyper_ch, was that for me?
[18:47] <hyper_ch> White_Pelican: yes
[18:47] <White_Pelican> should I use jre?
[18:48] <hyper_ch> White_Pelican: install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:48] <hyper_ch> White_Pelican: then run java -version  to check if sun java is selected
[18:48] <White_Pelican> ok I'll try that
[18:49] <White_Pelican> I'm glad you explained I was confused
[18:49] <hyper_ch> and you need to ahve the multiverse repository enabled
[18:49] <White_Pelican> that I do have
[18:50] <White_Pelican> there are several multiverses, which one specifically?
[18:50] <hyper_ch> White_Pelican: there is only one multiverse
[18:51] <walid> chapman
[18:52] <White_Pelican> bbl
[18:57]  * Secutor is away: Gone away for now.
[19:04] <virginia> h
[19:04] <eagles0513875> does intrepid have tablet pc support
[19:04] <klikk> ...
[19:18] <biopotz> hi, for some reason i can't find the "active borders" checkbox.. can anyone please direct me to the right place?
[19:23] <fdoving> biopotz: systemsettings -> window behavior -> advanced
[19:24] <rodrigo_> hola alguien de Colombia o Hispanohablante
[19:25] <biopotz> fdoving: thanks, now what about alt-tab going through all the apps runing no matter on which desktop they are ? :)
[19:25] <biopotz> i dont know if that's even possible
[19:25] <fdoving> biopotz: in te same place, select the focus tab, instead of the advanced one.
[19:26] <biopotz> i know compiz can do it, but i dont want to install it compiz just for that.
[19:26] <biopotz> fdoving: cool, who ever knew what traverse means.
[19:26] <eagles0513875> does anyone know if there is tablet pc support in intrepid
[19:27] <kilrae> i'm getting an error when i try the ubuntu alternate x64 installer: Buffer I/O error on device sr0
[19:27] <kilrae> there's more but i can't remember it all
[19:28] <kilrae> it just loops after i select "install kubuntu"
[19:28] <kilrae> i had no trouble with the ubuntu installer
[19:28] <fdoving> kilrae: check the cd.
[19:30] <serjo> hello, do anybody use cedega?
[19:37] <biopotz> looking now for a way to make alt-shift really change the layout, will appreciate help.
[19:40] <edi_99> hi guys, how can I completely remove ubuntustudio?
[19:42] <kilrae> fdoving: the CD is ok
[19:42] <Malic1> i have an error appearing when i do an installation with apt-get. i think it is because of the user rights and i have to change them, but i dont know how i can do that. Here is an example: kbuildsycoca4 running...
[19:42] <Malic1>                         Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-hans" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[19:42] <Malic1> kbuildsycoca4(7275) kdemain: Reusing existing ksycoca
[19:42] <White_Pelican> hyper_ch, I looked at the package you mentioned and it wants to remove k3b and libk3b3. I use k3b a lot
[19:42] <kilrae> i just ran MD5s against all the files on the disc
[19:43] <hyper_ch> White_Pelican: what package?
[19:43] <Guest57596> I am trying to restore grub, how can I know where grub was previously installed? I know wasnt the master boot record
[19:43] <White_Pelican> kubuntu-restricted-packages
[19:43] <haggus99> Can someone explain why adobe flash works in Seamonkey but not firefox?
[19:44] <hyper_ch> White_Pelican: then reinstall k3b later again
[19:44] <hyper_ch> White_Pelican: but there should not be any conflict
[19:44] <david__> how do i get and install the newest version of whinee
[19:44] <White_Pelican> also, it want to bring in java 6 which I know for a fact has issues with some web sites and frostwire
[19:45] <White_Pelican> wants*
[19:45] <hyper_ch> david__: add winehq repos from budgeddedicated
[19:46] <White_Pelican> maybe because seamonkey knows to go look for it, where as firefox requires a symbolic link
[19:47] <haggus99> I thought they used the same plugins folder under /home/user/.mozilla
[19:47] <White_Pelican> any ideas hyper_ch about java?
[19:47] <hyper_ch> White_Pelican: I told you
[19:48] <david__> hyper_ch: not sure how to do that
[19:48] <White_Pelican> told me what?
[19:48] <hyper_ch> david__: http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=wine
[19:48] <hyper_ch> White_Pelican: how to install java
[19:49] <david__> hyper_ch: ty
[19:49] <White_Pelican> you told me to install the kubuntu restricted packages. but I have had issues in the past with java 6
[19:50] <hyper_ch> White_Pelican: then don't install it
[19:51] <White_Pelican> ok, but I need some form of java, so which should I install?
[19:51] <edi_99> hi guys, how can I completely remove ubuntustudio?
[19:57] <BluesKaj> edi_99, dunno for sure , maybe , sudo apt-get remove ubuntustudio ?
[19:57] <edi_99> BluesKaj: nope, it doesn't work
[19:57] <BluesKaj> or is ubuntu studio a dedicated OS ?
[19:58] <BluesKaj> edi_99, dunno for sure , maybe , sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-studio ?
[19:59] <BluesKaj> edi_99, did you install it with a package manager?
[19:59] <edi_99> BluesKaj: well..sort of... because I have a totally different desktop... and no, ubuntu-studio doesn't work either
[19:59] <haggus99> well I figured it out after the change to ff-3.0.5 I needed to link my old plugins to the new ff it works now.
[19:59] <edi_99> BluesKaj: nope, by apt
[19:59] <rolf29> hey hey
[19:59] <BluesKaj> apt is a package manager , but in the konsole
[19:59] <rolf29> new to kubuntu, but damen , fuck windows
[20:00] <jussi01> !ohmy | rolf29
[20:00] <rolf29> okei, sorry man
[20:00] <rolf29> anyway kubuntu is the best
[20:00] <BluesKaj> edi_99, check synaptic for it , you may need to do it that way
[20:00] <jussi01> thanks :)
[20:01] <jussi01> rolf29: this channel is really for support questions, if you want to chat about kubuntu, join #kubuntu-offtopic  :)
[20:01] <rolf29> jussi01 no problem
[20:03] <edi_99> BluesKaj: this is exactly what I did: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UpgradingFromHardy
[20:04] <khuttger> does anyone know how to modify "blacklist" in kubuntu 8.10???
[20:04] <edi_99> BluesKaj: is it possible to "reverse" the commands to remove the packages
[20:05] <BluesKaj> edi_99,  then do this in the konsole : sudo aptitude remove ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video linux-rt
[20:05] <jussi01> !blacklist | khuttger
[20:07] <eagles0513875> anyone know if intrepid has tablet pc support
[20:07] <edi_99> BluesKaj: it's working. thank you very much
[20:09] <eagles0513875> !wine | david__
[20:09] <eagles0513875> !info wine | david__
[20:11] <edi_99> BluesKaj: unfortunatelly, after rebooting, everything is still the same
[20:13] <Deviant2Peer> hello all!
[20:13] <khuttger> hi
[20:14] <Deviant2Peer> anyone knows if it possible to set a access point using kubuntu intrepid, with a atheres ar424x?
[20:14] <khuttger> access point?
[20:15] <Deviant2Peer> yes, so that other could connect to me
[20:15] <edi_99> BluesKaj: will sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop do any good?
[20:18] <zig> Hi all, I installed kubuntu edgy on a computer at my parent's house, I can't seem to be able to upgrade it or even to install new package on it, is edgy completely unsupported now ?
[20:18] <khuttger> first question....why would you install something so old?
[20:19] <zig> I meant, I installeD a long tome ago :)
[20:19] <khuttger> oh
[20:19] <zig> now I'd like to at least upgrade it, but it seems that repositories don't know about edgy anymore
[20:19] <khuttger> just get a live boot cd for interpid
[20:20] <BluesKaj> edi_99, i forgot to tell you to check your sources.list to make sure the ubuntu-studio repository is disabled, then apt-get update
[20:20] <edi_99> BluesKaj: this should be the solution: sudo apt-get remove ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-look ubuntustudio-menu ubuntustudio-screensaver ubuntustudio-sounds ubuntustudio-theme ubuntustudio-video ubuntustudio-wallpapers
[20:20] <zig> khuttger, but upgrading from edgy isn't possible ?
[20:21] <zig> is that normal that repositories seem to not know about edgy anymore ?
[20:21] <zig> (I understand taht package won't evolve anymore, but they still could be here at their last version at least)
[20:21] <Ekushey> zig, is it an ancient version, man
[20:22] <Ekushey> zig why don't you download the latest version and reinstall?
[20:22] <BluesKaj> edi_99, well try it and see what happens , but I think you may be right about having to reinstall gnome-desktop or ubuntu-dektop whichever it is
[20:22] <astratto> gug
[20:22] <zig> becaust it was all configured to my parents' tastes, I'd prefere to keep it as it was (they were happy with it)
[20:22] <Ekushey> edgy > fiesty > gutsy > hardy > intrepid
[20:22] <ruth> hi there
[20:23] <astratto> anyone with kde 4.2 beta under intrepid could tell me if msn support works in kopete?
[20:23] <ruth> 'how can I enable 3d support?
[20:23] <Ekushey> zig, backup the /home dir, copy it on the new version
[20:23] <jussi01> astratto: it works here, but thats nly for me
[20:23] <astratto> jussi01: ok thanks
[20:24] <astratto> the last time I tried kopete crashed... :D
[20:24] <zig> so it means, if you don't upgrade a system, at some point you won't even be able to install anything new or upgrade it at all ?
[20:24] <Ekushey> astratto, why don't you use pidgin?
[20:24] <zig>  I find this a bit weird
[20:25] <ruth> 'how can I enable 3d support? I just installed 8.10/4.1.2
[20:25] <jussi01> ruth: which gfx card?
[20:25] <zig> maybe I'm not using the correct repositores ?
[20:25] <astratto> Ekushey: pidgin under kde? uhm... besides I prefer kopete
[20:25] <ruth> nvidia (onboard)
[20:25] <jussi01> ruth: kmenu -> system -> hardware manager
[20:26] <Ekushey> astratto, i dumped kopete cause it crashed all the time. pidgin crashes too but less than kopete
[20:26] <Woopah> Hi,can anyone help me updating libsqlite3-0 ? I currently have version 3.4.2 and i need at least 3.5.9
[20:27] <Ekushey> zig, you can upgrade, but from one release to the next or from one LTS release to another
[20:27] <jussi01> astratto: you may want to look at kmess, or upgrade to 4.2beta, thought that has its own issues
[20:27] <zig> ah, edgy wasn't a LTS then ?
[20:27] <astratto> Ekushey: another thing I don't like is that in pidgin you're not able to handle different away messages/status
[20:28] <Ekushey> zig, edgy is 6.06?
[20:28] <zig> Ekushey, is hardy a LTS then ? does it mean that a LTS will always remain upgradable ? if that's the case , I'm fine with this
[20:28] <Ekushey> 6.06 was LTS, zig
[20:28] <astratto> jussi01: I'm upgrading to kde 4.2 beta right now... in 4.1.3 kopete works great, it crashed when I upgraded to 4.2 some weeks ago (1-2)
[20:28] <ruth> jussi01: it says its enabled
[20:28] <zig> Ekushey, let me google this
[20:29] <Woopah> So no one knows how to update libsqlite3-0 ;|
[20:29] <jussi01> astratto: ok. but please proceed with caution ;)
[20:29] <zig> Ekushey, edgy was 6.10 so I guess not an LTS :(
[20:29] <Ekushey> astratto, yeah that's a good point... to be honest i don't like any of the IM clients that are available
[20:29] <ruth> jussi01: I cant get a resolution past 800x600
[20:29] <ruth> or play games that require 3d support
[20:30] <astratto> jussi01: don't worry :D
[20:30] <zig> so, do LTS alwaysremain upgradable at any time ? if so, I'll install an LTS on my parent computer
[20:30] <Ekushey> zig, no worrieds, copy the /home dir somewhere (dvd/pen drive) and install Intrepid Ibex on that machine
[20:30] <jussi01> ruth: you sure you enabled the  correct driver?
[20:30] <ruth> no :o
[20:30] <ruth> )
[20:30] <Ekushey> zig, one LTS to the next
[20:30] <astratto> Ekushey: it's a matter of tastes I guess
[20:30] <ruth> just the one they "reccomended"
[20:31] <zig> Ekushey, but forever right ?
[20:31] <ruth> I guess I will try the other one?
[20:31] <Ekushey> zig, nope
[20:31] <ruth> they offered 2 drivers
[20:31] <Arv3n> I am back!
[20:31] <zig> Ekushey, so even 6.06 wouldn't be upgradable now ?
[20:32] <Ekushey> zig, you can upgrade from 6.06, but not to the latest release, which is 8.10
[20:33] <Ekushey> zig, you don't have internet connectivity on that machine?
[20:33] <Arv3n> Ekushey, technically you can upgrade from 6.06 to 8.04 to 8.10
[20:33] <Arv3n> lol
[20:33] <zig> if I can upgrade to a LTS, then I can upgrade again
[20:34] <Ekushey> Arv3n, what i meant is you can't do 6.06 > 8.10 directly
[20:34] <Arv3n> just beware of 3.5 --> 4.1
[20:34] <Arv3n> Ekushey, well, you can but it wont be supported.
[20:34] <zig> Ekushey, yep, not a problem
[20:34] <zig> as long as I can upgrade to something newer I'm fine
[20:34] <Arv3n> zig, yeah try 8.04
[20:35] <Arv3n> if you like kde 3.5 you'll be pleased.
[20:35] <zig> my question is: do LTS remain upgradable forever (to the next LTS)
[20:35] <Ekushey> Arv3n, so there's no poing of trying that :p
[20:35] <Arv3n> zig, should.
[20:35] <taittajanne> hi
[20:35] <zig> because right know, 6.10 (which is not an LTS) seem to be completely dead (not even on the repositories anymore)
[20:35] <Arv3n> it IS dead.
[20:35] <Arv3n> :)
[20:36] <zig> so that mean; on a computer I don't maintai na lot, I should install LTS only
[20:36] <Ekushey> zig, install 8.04 as Arv3n says, cause your parent might freak out seeing kde4
[20:36] <zig> (my parent's computer for example)
[20:36] <zig> yep, that's what I intend to do :)
[20:36] <zig> it's an LTS right ?
[20:36] <Arv3n> 8.04 is an lts, yes.
[20:36] <zig> ok perfect
[20:37] <Arv3n> and if your parents are used to kde 3.5, stick with 8.04
[20:37] <zig> defintely
[20:37] <Arv3n> 8.10 is kde 4.1 only
[20:37] <zig> they would freak :)
[20:37] <Ekushey> lol yes
[20:37] <Arv3n> kde 4.2 is really nice though
[20:37] <zig> even I avoided it for now
[20:37] <ruth> neither of the drivers that kde 4.1.2 suggested for me work (nvidia)
[20:37] <Ekushey> ah i miss kde 3.x
[20:37] <ruth> what do I do?
[20:37] <Woopah> Ah KDE 4.2 sucks ;p
[20:38] <zig> it looks nice , but all the features aren't completely back
[20:38] <Woopah> True..
[20:38] <Woopah> It looks really nice
[20:38] <Ekushey> Woopah, not really... using it for a month now and getting used to it :p
[20:38] <Arv3n> kde 4.2 is kickass.
[20:38] <Arv3n> its only beta 2 and i love it so much. <3
[20:38] <Woopah> Fair enuff'
[20:39] <Ekushey> Arv3n, can you put icons on the desktop?
[20:39] <Arv3n> yes.
[20:39] <Arv3n> you can either do a folder view widget
[20:39] <Ekushey> how?
[20:39] <Arv3n> either go to the menu --> riggh tclick icon --> add to desktop
[20:39] <Arv3n> or in appearance settings
[20:39] <Ekushey> not using the widget
[20:39] <Arv3n> change the type of desktop to a folder view
[20:39] <Ekushey> i meant like a 3.5 desktop
[20:40] <zig> some things that disapointed me for example : gwenview was so good to read mangas, but the newer one in kde 4 is much less usable IMHO
[20:40] <Arv3n> Ekushey, yes.
[20:40] <Woopah> I'm happy with my KDE 3.5
[20:40] <Woopah> :P
[20:40] <Arv3n> go to appearance settings
[20:40] <Arv3n> its 4.2 only
[20:40] <Arv3n> go to appearance settings and change to folder view as a type of desktop.
[20:40] <Ekushey> Woopah, upgrade upgrade :p
[20:40] <Buckethead_> hi :)
[20:40] <Arv3n> hello Buckethead_
[20:40] <Woopah> No way Ekushey :P
[20:41] <Woopah> I love KDE 3
[20:41] <Ekushey> Arv3n, system settings > appearance?
[20:42] <Arv3n> Ekushey, no.
[20:42] <Arv3n> right click on the desktop --> appearance settings
[20:43] <Ekushey> Arv3n, don't have that...
[20:43] <Arv3n> then you must not be running 4.2
[20:43] <Arv3n> :)
[20:43] <Arv3n> its 4.2 _ONLY_
[20:44] <Ekushey> nope i'm on KDE 4.1.3
[20:44] <Arv3n> its 4.2 _only_
[20:44] <Arv3n> :)
[20:44] <Ekushey> Arv3n, 4.2 is not on the repo
[20:44] <Arv3n> opensuse backportd it to 4.1.3 on opensuse 11.1 though
[20:44] <Arv3n> Ekushey, its in a ppa im using
[20:44] <Arv3n> 4.1.85
[20:44] <Arv3n> its on kubuntu.org >.>
[20:45] <Ekushey> ah i'll wait till they put it on the repo
[20:45] <Arv3n> that'll be in jaunty :)
[20:45] <Ekushey> really?
[20:45] <Arv3n> yes.
[20:45] <Ekushey> then i'll try it earlier :p
[20:46] <Arv3n> wut u meen
[20:46] <Ekushey> i mean i'll download it then
[20:47] <Ekushey> Arv3n, this? -> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2
[20:47] <Arv3n> yar
[20:48] <ruth> I like 3.5 better
[20:48] <ruth> how can I revert to that or at least make it look and act like 3.5?
[20:49] <ruth> 4.1.2 is sucking my will to live
[20:49] <Arv3n> if its 8.10 then you cant. :)
[20:49] <Arv3n> oh wait check ubuntuforums
[20:49] <ruth> ahhh man
[20:49] <Arv3n> thought i saw a topic on it
[20:49] <Arv3n> with a howto
[20:49] <Arv3n> on kde 3.5
[20:49] <ruth> I cant get around here
[20:49] <ruth> or install 3d support
[20:49] <Arv3n> jockey
[20:49] <ruth> (with working drivers)
[20:50] <Arv3n> go to system --> hardware drivers
[20:50] <ruth> yeah, but the two drive they offer dont work
[20:57] <Arv3n> OMFG
[20:57] <Arv3n> HOLY %5823U458345JA
[20:57] <Arv3n> oh my GOD.
[20:57] <Arv3n> that was an INCREDIBLE CATCH BY STEVE SMITH!
[21:03] <asobi> how do i search just parts of a filename
[21:07] <vs> hi
[21:08] <paco> Hi!
[21:08] <paco> Hola?
[21:09] <mister-tea-lappy> !hi
[21:09] <paco> Hi, ubottu!
[21:09] <paco> hi, mister-tea
[21:09] <paco> is this the place to search for help with ubuntu-kubuntu?
[21:09] <paco> Am I in the correct IRC?
[21:09] <mister-tea-lappy> yes
[21:10] <paco> Well, thank you, mister-tea-lappy
[21:10] <paco> How may I start?
[21:10] <mister-tea-lappy> !ask
[21:10] <paco> Ok, Ie got two questions:
[21:11] <mister-tea-lappy> paco: ubottu is abot
[21:11] <paco> Frist one: kubuntu hangs continuosliy
[21:11] <paco> thanks, mister-tea
[21:12] <mister-tea-lappy> version and hangs when
[21:13] <Arv3n> oh my god.
[21:13] <Arv3n> what an amazing football game, seriously. im shaking it was so good.
[21:14] <mister-tea-lappy> !ot
[21:14] <Arv3n> thanks, i was looking for that channel earlier but no one knew it. =/
[21:14] <Arv3n> so i assumed there wasnt it.
[21:14] <Arv3n> *one.
[21:21] <asobi> how do i search just parts of a filename?
[21:23] <PhilRod> asobi: what are you searching with?
[21:23] <asobi> konqueror
[21:24] <asobi> it only finds files if i type the entire filename
[21:24] <PhilRod> ah, not sure then - more of a CLI person myself
[21:25] <asobi> how do i do it in command
[21:27] <paco> Hi again! Hanged out!
[21:28] <paco> mister-tea-lappy, are you still here?
[21:28] <mister-tea-lappy> yes
[21:29] <paco> ok, version: Kubuntu 7.04, hanged last minute when I tried to cpoy-paste a uname-a in this window
[21:29] <paco> and hangs a lot of times, enven when the computer is doing nothing
[21:29] <paco> I supposse ittts something from the X11 system
[21:29] <paco> but dont know how to solve it
[21:30] <mister-tea-lappy> paco: why are you on an unsupported distro?
[21:31] <paco> because: I dont have a DVD to upgrade (my coomputer only has CD-ROM) and I tryed to upgrade over internet, but has been impossible for me.
[21:32] <paco> So, I need help to upgrade over the internet. Thats waht I need
[21:33] <paco> after sudo apt-get upgrade    the response is something like "broken packets or packets not found"
[21:33] <mister-tea-lappy> try with synaptic
[21:33] <paco> ok, how to proceed?
[21:34] <paco> Ive never used synaptic
[21:34] <mister-tea-lappy> try fixing broken packages first
[21:34] <mister-tea-lappy> it's the gui version of apt
[21:35] <mister-tea-lappy> you are on kubuntu 7.04?
[21:35] <mister-tea-lappy> !upgrade
[21:35] <paco> Yes, its kubuntu 704
[21:35] <paco> thanks, bot ubottu.
[21:35] <mister-tea-lappy> !bot
[21:36] <paco> so, mister tea, its Kubuntu 7.04. My computer doent have a CDROM
[21:36] <mister-tea-lappy> you have internet or you wouldn't be haer
[21:36] <Dragonath> my sound is cracking when it's busy with something :(
[21:36] <slow-motion> n8
[21:36] <paco> I downloaded an ISO image of ubuntu 8.10, but its not possibble to boot ubuntu whit it (only 256Mb RAM)!
[21:37] <paco> so, the only solution I think about is to install Kubuntu 8.X over internet
[21:37] <mister-tea-lappy> paco: I think you have to go to 8.04 before going to 8.10
[21:37] <paco> Ok, mister, how to go to 8.04?
[21:37] <PhilRod> asobi: find /path/to/search/in -iname '*partofnametomatch*'
[21:38] <Dragonath> paco - have you tried using xubuntu?
[21:38] <mister-tea-lappy> go to the kubuntu home page and download the iso
[21:38] <PhilRod> asobi: or just 'locate searchterm'
[21:38] <paco> I            downloaded the ISO for 8.10 to upgrade the full system... has not been possible
[21:39] <paco> Dragonarrt: No, Ihavnet tryed xubuntu, how to try it?
[21:39] <mister-tea-lappy> 8.10 requires more resources than 8.04
[21:39] <szad> Hello all. I have a problem. I have notebook HP 6720S and i have wireless card broadcom b43,which has commercial drivers. On ubuntu after install i can connect to my home ad-hoc network. In kubuntu after install i cant.. What can be the reason?
[21:39] <Dragonath> paco: http://www.xubuntu.org/get <-- it's ubuntu for computers that don't have much resources
[21:39] <mister-tea-lappy> !xubuntu
[21:39] <asobi> how do i change folder for "locate"
[21:40] <nippz> eh
[21:40] <mister-tea-lappy> Dragonath: I'm running xubuntu on this old lappy btw
[21:41] <david__> how do i disable all destop effects so i can play games on wine?
[21:41] <paco> So, you think the trouble is in the X system, not in the graphic card or something else?
[21:43] <mister-tea-lappy> what kind of system are you running?
[21:43] <paco> Why its hanging? I understand being very slow, but hanging once and again?
[21:43] <szad> I dont know where is the problem. Maybye in the manager or something. But I already also tried a wicd and on kubuntu it isnt working also
[21:43] <szad> I am now on ubuntu 8.10 and all is working great, on kubuntu i cant get wifi ad-hoc working:(
[21:44] <mister-tea-lappy> paco: what is your system stats?
[21:44] <Dragonath> mister-tea-lappy: I am running kubuntu 8.04 on this pc
[21:44] <mister-tea-lappy> good choice but this lappys ram won't support it
[21:45] <dima_> здаров пацаны
[21:45] <paco> Pentium II 256 Mb, 10+10Gb (first partition is Windows, the others are for linux)
[21:45] <mister-tea-lappy> !ru
[21:45] <Dragonath> mister-tea-lappy: I also am running xubuntu 8.04 (I think) on a '98 ThinkPad with 32MB RAM
[21:45] <dima_> как вы тут?
[21:45] <paco> Sorry! Its pentium III    3   !!!
[21:46] <mister-tea-lappy> ok the ram is too little to run kubuntu well you may want to try xubuntu
[21:47] <paco> ok, mister-tea-lappy so whats nnnext?
[21:47] <mister-tea-lappy> Dragonath: yeah maybe but the waiting must be painful
[21:48] <mister-tea-lappy> paco: go to the xubuntu website and download the 8.04 alt. cd
[21:48] <Dragonath> mister-tea-lappy: it's not very bad unless you expect to run 10 apps at the same time - it was more of an experiment anyways, I use it to browse the net sometimes
[21:48] <paco> after sudo apt-get install xubuntu : no packet found
[21:48] <mister-tea-lappy> this lappy has 192 mb ram and wouldn't run it
[21:49] <mister-tea-lappy> paco go to the website
[21:49] <paco> ok, im going there...
[21:49] <mister-tea-lappy> download the iso burn a cd and install it
[21:50] <mister-tea-lappy> Dragonath: btw this is like a ten year old lappy
[21:52] <mister-tea-lappy> maybe only 8
[21:53] <paco> ok, mister, Im dowloading xubuntu. Is burning a CD the only way? Is it possible to upgrade direectly, downloading a file or similar?
[21:53] <paco> This PC was born ten years agoo also, thennn it was a real real reaaal machine... but today its ..... puffff
[21:54] <Dragonath> mister-tea-lappy: mine is too :)
[21:54] <Dragonath> xubuntu should work anyways
[21:54] <mister-tea-lappy> true
[21:54] <Dragonath> if it doesn't then I've heard that netBSD might be the way to go
[21:57] <paco> theres another way explaine in the xubuntu web: adept
[21:59] <genpfaul1> I'm having trouble using icewm themes in kde
[22:00] <genpfaul1> I have kdeartwork-theme-window installed, but I'm not seeing an IceWM option in the window decorations list
[22:01] <genpfaul1> Do I need to log out/in for kdeartwork-theme-window to take?
[22:03] <paco> So, the only way to  upgrade from 7.X to 8.X is downloading the CD ISO?
[22:03] <paco> No another idea?
[22:03] <paco> !es
[22:04] <crimsun> paco: if you have reasonably stable Internet access, you can perform a distribution upgrade online
[22:04] <paco> thenk you very much!!!!!!! Byeee!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:04] <paco> ok, crimsum, how to do it?
[22:04] <paco> I have a 3Mb ADSL, so i think its possible
[22:05] <Pici> paco: What version of Ubuntu are you running right now?
[22:05] <paco> Pici: I am running kubuntu 7.04
[22:05] <paco> crimsum: how to perform the distribution upgrade online?
[22:06] <paco> crimsun: how to perform the distribution upgrade online?
[22:07] <crimsun> paco: sudo do-release-upgrade
[22:07] <Pici> paco: You'll need to upgrade to 7.10 and then to 8.04 and then to 8.10.
[22:07] <Pici> paco: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#Fully%20updating%207.04 for 7.04 to 7.10
[22:10] <genpfault> Hrm, restarting KDE didn't help
[22:13] <paco> Ok, I am trying first sudo do-release-upgrade
[22:18] <paco> results of the sudo do-release-upgrade:  "Done dowloading"  --- Error during upgrade" and there are lots of errors likee "Failed to fetch http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  (Its my translation from the spanish version I am using):
[22:19] <paco> maybe the es.archive.ubuntu is not working? Hwo can I change this address to upgrede from another server?
[22:20] <peace> hm.. why i cant install anything ?
[22:21] <martijn81> peace: you would with sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[22:22] <paco> Ok, I am going to ubutu-es, perhps somenoe there knooooooows about it.
[22:22] <paco> thank you and BYE!
[22:24] <peace> martijn81 it requires me to put kubuntu cd always.. its very annoying
[22:27] <martijn81> peace then remove that line from /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:28] <peace> i cant delete it
[22:32] <peace> well then i guess its impossible to fix this problem
[22:32] <peace> bye
[22:35] <martijn81> well, you should use sudo
[22:35] <martijn81> but not that that matthers anymore, he is gone now
[22:35] <jussi01> or kdesudo if using a graphical app ;)
[22:35] <genpfault> http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdeartwork/kwin-styles/icewm/
[22:36] <genpfault> If I'm reading that right kdeartwork* ought to provide kwin3_icewm
[22:36] <stdin> in trunk
[22:37] <genpfault> http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/4.1.85/kdeartwork/kwin-styles/icewm/
[22:37] <genpfault> it's there too
[22:52] <justminty> hello
[22:54] <justminty> is there anyway I can get my orginal xorg.conf back ? I was screwing around with trying to get my ati raedon 9550 recognized and now theres only my new one and a "low graphics recovery mode" one
[22:55] <justminty> i'm trying to unistall fglrx and start again
[23:00] <tyutin> @justminty: have you checked /etc/X11 to see if you have any old versions of  xorg.conf?
[23:11] <david__> how do i fix my flashplayer it will not play youtube videos?
[23:12] <mister-tea-lappy> do you have the the latest version?
[23:12] <david__> make me some tea
[23:13] <david__> mister-tea-lappy: yes i have the latest version
[23:13] <mister-tea-lappy> poof you are tea
[23:14] <mister-tea-lappy> do you have java?
[23:14] <david__> mister-tea-lappy: im using konqueror with google as my home page
[23:15] <mister-tea-lappy> o then idk
[23:15] <david__> mister-tea-lappy: probably not i do  not know
[23:15] <mister-tea-lappy> you tube needss both
[23:16] <david__> mister-tea-lappy: how can i check to see if i have java?
[23:16] <mister-tea-lappy> I'm not familiar with java with konq'
[23:16] <david__> mister-tea-lappy: what browser do you use?
[23:16] <mister-tea-lappy> I use ff
[23:17] <mister-tea-lappy> firefox 3
[23:17] <david__> mister-tea-lappy: how did you change to that couse i really dont like konq????
[23:18] <mister-tea-lappy> open synaptic and search firefox then install the package
[23:18] <david__> mister-tea-lappy: thnx
[23:18] <mister-tea-lappy> or sudo apt-get install firefox
[23:20] <mister-tea-lappy> david__: after that you will have to install the flashplayer plugin and the java plugin
[23:21] <chris_> Hello!
[23:21] <mister-tea-lappy> !hi
[23:28] <david__> mister-tea-lappy: i installed it now where did the icon go?
[23:28] <mister-tea-lappy> from synaptic?
[23:29] <hang3r> david__, just install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:29] <mister-tea-lappy> if you used apt-get you will have to add the icon manually
[23:30] <hang3r> no
[23:30] <mister-tea-lappy> if synaptic it will be under internet menu
[23:31] <afeijo> how can I copy a protected dvd?
[23:31] <hang3r> afeijo: install ubuntu-restricted-extras and google info about css (content scrambling)
[23:32] <david__> mister-tea-lappy: thnx very much now i can watch youtube!
[23:32] <mister-tea-lappy> yw
[23:32] <david__> mister-tea-lappy: now im going to go make some tea!
[23:32] <afeijo> installing
[23:32] <mister-tea-lappy> make it green lol
[23:34] <david__> mister-tea-lappy: how do i auto hide my taskbar in kubuntu?
[23:34] <mister-tea-lappy> version?
[23:34] <david__> mister-tea-lappy: 8.10
[23:35] <mister-tea-lappy> idk I'm still on 8.04
[23:35] <hang3r> ah, libdvdcss2 is included with ubuntu restricted extras now, never used to be
[23:35] <afeijo> hang3r: no specific program?
[23:35] <afeijo> like dvd decrypter for win?
[23:36] <david__> how do i autohide my taskbar in kubuntu 8.10?
[23:36] <afeijo> ubuntu-restricted-extras installed
[23:36] <Dragnslcr> david__- you need KDE 4.2
[23:36] <david__> Dragnslcr: how do i get that?
[23:37] <hang3r> afeijo: k3b under (Applications->Multimedia) has a Rip dvd option under the tools menu, if that's what you're asking :)
[23:37] <Dragnslcr> david__- http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2
[23:39] <afeijo> hang3r: I try that one, when I use Copy DVD button and click start, it says 'cant copy protected dvd'
[23:39] <afeijo> hmmm, tools - rip, trying
[23:40] <david__> mister-tea-lappy: how do i change homepage under firefox?
[23:41] <mister-tea-lappy> go to edit preferences
[23:41] <mister-tea-lappy> wait let me check that
[23:42] <mister-tea-lappy> no that's right edit menu then preferences
[23:47] <hang3r> afeijo: I'm sure I used to use something to copy css dvds, there was k9copy and dvd::rip, but it was a long time ago
[23:48] <david__> mister-tea-lappy: i have no sound when playing videos how do i fix this?
[23:50] <mister-tea-lappy> did you look in alsa mixer and see that it's enableed?
[23:50] <xt0rt> i'm on a p4, would switching to kde 4 be a bad idea
[23:50] <mister-tea-lappy> I had to go to the mixer and tell it to use my sound card for video audio
[23:50] <xt0rt> i heard its slower on older systems
[23:51] <HappySmileMan> A P4 is considered old now?
[23:51] <HappySmileMan> :(
[23:51] <david__> mister-tea-lappy: were is the mixer?
[23:51] <stdin> it should run fine, in fact there have been many optimisation improvements in Qt4/KDE4
[23:52] <mister-tea-lappy> david__: you are on version I'm not using but there must be an are to set sounds
[23:52] <mister-tea-lappy> area
[23:53] <xt0rt> stdin: fine or fast?
[23:53] <mister-tea-lappy> stdin: where's the mixer settings in 8.10?
[23:53] <xt0rt> i just switched from xubuntu
[23:53] <stdin> mister-tea-lappy: kmix
[23:54] <mister-tea-lappy> david__: ther you go
[23:54] <stdin> xt0rt: there are other factors to do with speed, but it should be on par with kde3
[23:54] <xt0rt> so i like fast :3
[23:54] <xt0rt> ok excellent
[23:54] <xt0rt> thanks a bunch, have a good one
[23:54] <xt0rt> or a cold one
[23:54] <xt0rt> whichever you prefer
[23:56] <kingofkillers> buonaseraa
[23:56] <mister-tea-lappy> !it
[23:56] <kingofkillers> mi potete dare una mano??
[23:58] <david__> how do i get sound while watching videos on youtube?