[00:00] crimsun: ps aux | grep tim yields nothing [00:00] xjjk, okay thank you, im going to boot into linux now and try those three things in that order. [00:00] emma: also, did you look at that text file [00:00] Roey: sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* [00:01] xjjk: no if it comes to that it's too hopeless to bother. [00:01] emma: OK.. up to you... [00:01] i just thought it would be better to learn python on linux, i can try to learn it on windows if lnux cannot get on the internet. [00:01] oh, you're only interested in learning Python? [00:02] that's what i want to do. [00:02] OK [00:02] virtualizing Linux with VirtualBox isn't that bad of an idea [00:02] hey does any one know any yahoo chat programes [00:02] if you want to go that route [00:02] crimsun: it turned out to be nspluginviewer. GRRRR. Why the frick doesn't it use ALSA????? [00:02] willy: pidgin [00:02] it would be much more enjoyable to play with Python in linux. [00:02] (I'm on a 64-bit arch) [00:02] emma: yes, it would [00:02] maybe instal wubi on windows? [00:02] any thing else with voice [00:03] emma: afaik wubi is still going to require you to setup your hardware [00:03] which is the problem here [00:03] Roey: nspluginwrapper doesn't care about the sound system. what's using nspluginwrapper? Flash? [00:03] yes [00:03] yes indeed. [00:03] virtualizing linux in windows, won't that be the same as wubi? [00:03] emma: virtualizing stuff, you bypass all that [00:03] crimsun: yes indeed. [00:03] emma: no [00:03] Roey: which version? [00:03] crimsun: 9.x [00:03] hm. [00:03] im not sure what virtualising linux in windows means then. [00:03] crimsun: it's not the beta 10 version that's native 64-bit [00:03] Roey: on which Kubuntu release? [00:03] 8.10, crimsun [00:04] Roey: and which arch are you using? [00:04] crimsun: er, wait: [00:04] emma: wubi lets you run linux natively without setting up separate partitioning [00:04] emma: virtualizing lets you run another OS inside another OS [00:04] Kubuntu 8.10: http://pastebin.com/m4ded81d7 [00:04] i.e. Linux within Windows, or vice versa [00:04] www.myspace.com [00:04] there are a couple programs that let you do that, such as VMWare, VirtualBox, etc [00:05] are they free and easy to install on windows? [00:05] emma: VMware and VirtualBox have free versions, ys [00:05] yes* [00:05] very easy to install on Windows [00:05] easy to install on Linux too [00:05] I use VirtualBox to run Windows apps when in Linux [00:05] so I don't have to reboot [00:05] Roey: which $arch? [00:06] crimsun: X86_64 [00:06] well let's hope the three step processes: (1) turn off knetworkmanager, (2) sudo iwconfig eth1 essid FarmNet (3) sudo dhclient eth1 [00:06] does it. [00:07] emma: sure [00:07] if you want to talk about the virtualization route, we can talk about it afterward... [00:07] see you after a couple boots either way :) thanks for your kind help :) [00:07] NP [00:07] okay :) [00:08] Roey: first, remove libflash-mozplugin, then tell me the sha1sum of /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so [00:10] Hi [00:10] crimsun: 9989de79e5e63493c5763da087a41aacc9e11530 /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so [00:11] why are so many people in here, but there is no one talking [00:11] ::cricket:: ::cricket:: [00:11] Roey: erm, that's definitely not the 64-bit alpha [00:12] lol [00:12] Roey: 5b8bbeb0a90ab12bf0e7f5c57304ace9085eca9b /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so [00:13] oh ok [00:13] crimsun: how do I install that one?? [00:13] crimsun: I assume that one respects ALSA [00:13] since it does not use the wrapper [00:14] Roey: they both respect alsa, the question is which of the two flash plugins was being used [00:15] oh. [00:15] ok. [00:15] so what's the next step? [00:15] oi what yahoo programes u can use [00:15] Roey: well, assuming it's working fine w/o a Flash instance running, test mpg123 alongside a Flash instance [00:16] er I jsut removed it [00:16] so...? [00:16] crimsun: I just removed it I thought [00:18] Roey: which flash package(s) did you remove? [00:18] Roey: you need one but not both =) [00:19] crimsun: libmoz-flash [00:19] or something like that [00:19] crimsun: the one you told me to remove [00:20] Roey: ok, but you left flashplugin-nonfree alone (i.e., still installed), correct? [00:20] ii flashplugin-nonfree 10.0.15.3ubuntu1~intre Adobe Flash Player plugin installer [00:20] aye [00:22] Roey: ok, so try mpg123 alongside some youtube schtick [00:24] crimsun: yeah that worked [00:24] Roey: ok, case closed. [00:24] so does this one /not/ go through ndiswrapper? [00:24] err, you mean nspluginwrapper? [00:24] [not the ndis windows/ndis driver wrapper] [00:25] crimsun: http://pastebin.com/m46e0ff0c [00:25] nspluginwrapper? I think? [00:25] Roey: you're using the wrapped one [00:26] oof [00:26] crimsun: I want the 64-bit native one [00:26] it doesn't matter [00:26] ok [00:26] then you need to purge nspluginwrapper and flashplugin-nonfree, then reinstall flashplugin-nonfree [00:26] i have both but i just want to use kde [00:26] whichever ends this sound issue ofr me [00:26] the sound issue is already resolved [00:27] need help [00:28] crimsun: OK, so I purged nsplugin-wrapper and flashplugin-nonfree, but when I try to reinstall flashplugin-nonfree, it says it wants to install nspluginwrapper as well. [00:28] Roey: what's the output from `apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree' ? [00:29] Candidate: 10.0.15.3ubuntu1~intrepid1 [00:29] crimsun: Candidate: 10.0.15.3ubuntu1~intrepid1 [00:29] need help [00:29] crimsun: uh, I wonder if I'm missing a deb line? [00:30] well, that's the version from intrepid-{security,updates} [00:30] ok [00:30] so what should I be using then? [00:30] alguem do amapa [00:30] nao [00:31] não [00:31] Could anyone see screenshot? http://skittent.net/~enoj/kubuntu-installer.png - Trying to install Kubuntu using these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux ( got partition where I placed the contents from the cd and edited grub to boot from this partition (booting from partition is (0,4)) - sda1 never appears in the install to the right in the screenshot [00:31] crimsun: so what should I be using then? And how do I switch to it? [00:31] Roey: you're using the correct version. it's the same source package as intrepid's, just updated for the security fix. it's not the same as jaunty's, so you don't get the native 64-bit one by default. [00:32] crimsun: ok. [00:32] crimsun: how do I use the 64-bit one? [00:32] Roey: if you want jaunty's, you'll need to install it explicitly. [00:32] crimsun: how do I do this? [00:32] Roey: well, i don't necessarily recommend it. [00:33] can anyone give me a hand with changing from gome desktop to kde [00:33] Roey: it's http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-nonfree_10.0.15.3ubuntu1_amd64.deb [00:33] metalman1673: did you install kubuntu-desktop as i suggested? [00:34] is it something I can wget and then dpkg -i? [00:34] crimsun: is it something I can wget and then dpkg -i? [00:34] yess [00:34] and nothing [00:34] Roey: you should be able to click the url directly, and it should bring up gdebi [00:34] metalman1673: "nothing" meaning? [00:34] crimsun: ok [00:34] why does kmail need to open the wallet when shutting it down? [00:34] crimsun: I mean, I've installed it already. THANKS Dan :) [00:34] U R AWESOME [00:35] well gome keeps being my desktop [00:35] and cant change to kde [00:37] metalman1673: did you choose to use the kde session in Choose Session... [00:38] when i click on the icon kde theme it does't work [00:42] were can i change kde session [00:49] Does anyone know how to readd Ark's "extract here" and "extract to" right click file menu options on archives from KDE3 onto KDE4 (since apparently that doesn't come on Kubuntu by default)? [01:01] how do i watch youtube videos on kubuntu? [01:01] firefox [01:02] if you're on 32-bit, you can use adobe-flashplugin, or you can use swfdec-mozilla === deamoon is now known as deamoon_ === deamoon_ is now known as deamoon [01:05] how do i install flashplyer through adept? === ghost is now known as Guest14325 === Guest14325 is now known as khesatan [01:10] hello :) === tackat_ is now known as tackat === surma is now known as matti_ [01:12] could someone help me get youtube to work [01:13] david do apt-get install adobe-flashplugin === vorian is now known as awesome [01:15] Hydrant2: did not work === awesome is now known as vorian [01:15] why [01:16] Hydrant2: how do i get to root sudo -i? [01:16] sudo bash [01:16] do you have multiverse/3rd party / universe enabled in adept ? [01:17] dont use 'sudo bash' -- sudo -s , or sudo -i, is much perfered. [01:18] Hydrant2: went to root and it said could not find package adobe-flashplugin [01:19] The package 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' installs flash and java and some other bits you proberly want. [01:19] * genii hands dr_willis a coffee [01:20] is there a decent beginner's/idiot's guide to ubuntu? i would like to have some reference material, if anyone would be kind enough to recommend something. [01:21] aside from the main website, i mean, and the help guides [01:21] !training [01:21] A desktop course manual for Ubuntu 7.10 can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training [01:21] and yes.. that book is old.. but gnome is gnome.... [01:22] okay.. [01:22] <-- utterly new, for what it's worth >.> [01:22] thanks, though :) [01:23] thats a decent book for someone that has no clue what linux even/gnome even is.. but its basicially a 'learn how to use gnome' book sort of... [01:23] great! i've bookmarked it so i can look it over [01:33] is it me or does it take more space to upgrade than a fresh install? [01:35] hi [01:35] has anyone here installed quake wars enemy territory, comercial version? [01:44] how do i get mom free flashplayer through adept? [01:44] The package 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' installs flash and java and some other bits you proberly want. [01:44] non [01:45] gnash? [01:45] * dr_willis is lazy and uses tat meta-package [01:47] could someone tell me how to get the non free flashplayer on adept? [01:47] !flash [01:47] To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash [01:48] david_, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree [01:48] that Factoid page - is a bit out of date [01:48] david_, unless you mean the standalone player [01:51] Hi, I'm playing dvds on kubuntu , How can i increase the screensize ? it seems like the screensize is small and i'd like to increase it. Any ideas? [01:52] check out the docs for the player? try other players.. I perfer gmplayer myself. [01:52] Not sure what you mean by screensize.. You mean the video is displayed in a smaller then it should be window? [01:59] bazhang: typed that into terinal and still cannot watch youube [02:00] david_, type about:plugins in browser bar and make sure it was installed === c is now known as Guest89290 [02:02] bazhang: im using konqueror [02:03] bazhang: but in terminal it said everything was installed [02:03] david_, did you quit, clean cache and restart konqueror [02:03] has anyone here installed quake wars enemy territory, comercial version? [02:04] bazhang: no i dont know how? [02:04] hm, i just can't make wifi work in kubuntu at all. [02:05] and the wifi is not even secured. [02:05] bazhang: does that mean restart my pc? [02:06] david_, no, clear the cache in konqueror, then quit konqueror and restart it; nothing to do with restarting your pc [02:07] are there problems with knetworkmanager? [02:07] david_, seldom need to restart pc unless it is a kernel upgrade [02:07] bazhang: how do i clear the cach? [02:08] david_, I'm not using konqueror at the moment, but it should be in the preferences there (just look around a bit) [02:11] bazhang: were are the prefereces? [02:12] bazhang: do iopen koqueror? [02:13] bazhang: sry sp do i open konqueror? [02:14] is anyone having problems with kgpg in 4.2 [02:15] david_: Settings..Configure Konqueror...Cache (in left pane)... "Clear Cache" button( in right pane) ... Apply [02:17] genii: when i do hit the clear button it will not let meapply? [02:17] david_: OK, thats fine. [02:18] david_: The Apply button might only be needed if you change the cache size or so [02:21] genii: still no you tube [02:24] david_: Did you do: Settings..Configure Konqueror... Plugins (left pane) .. Scan for New Plugins (right pane) [02:25] i'm trying to upgrade to the kde4.2 beta and i've added the source but when i perform apt-get upgrade it says that all of the packages were held back. [02:26] apt-get dist-upgrade should do it === harman is now known as Harman [02:26] hello [02:27] oh awesome, thanks. [02:27] hello friends i want to install my graphics driver [02:28] unichrome [02:29] can anybody help me [02:29] Harman: xserver-xorg-video-openchrome is probably the package you want [02:30] i have run it [02:30] but doesnt work [02:32] genii: now i get the black screen on youtube [02:32] emma: hey, did you end up getting your wireless working? [02:33] nm, just saw your note in the recent scrollback [02:33] david_: Did you exit and restart Konq since you installed the other plugins, etc? [02:40] genii: yes i did still black screen when i try to play vids [02:42] david_: Do you have package: konqueror-nsplugins installed? [02:42] (or konqueror-nsplugins-kde4 if on kde4) [02:43] genii: i have no cle probably not new install [02:44] david_: You have kde3 or kde4 installed? [02:45] genii: kde4 [02:45] david_: Then in Konsole (with Adept closed): sudo apt-get install konqueror-nsplugins-kde4 [02:46] david_: You may need first: sudo apt-get update === solid_li` is now known as solid_liq [03:13] hi [03:18] hi [03:19] all [03:20] <_2> !info ncurses dapper [03:20] Package ncurses does not exist in dapper [03:20] <_2> ? [03:21] <_2> !find ncurses dapper [03:21] Found: evms-ncurses, lib64ncurses5, lib64ncurses5-dev, libncurses5, libncurses5-dbg (and 12 others) [03:21] <_2> !find ^ncurses dapper [03:21] Found: libncurses5-dev, ncurses-base, ncurses-bin, ncurses-term, ncurses-hexedit [03:21] dapper!? kinda outdated there :) [03:21] <_2> nosrednaekim it's lts [03:22] yeah..... don't get many people still running that though :P === gparada_ is now known as LedX [03:22] !botabuse | _2 [03:22] _2: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots. Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid". [03:26] can i have 2 diffrent versions of the nvidia drivers installed for 2 cards at the same time? [03:27] inteliwasp: no [03:28] well i just got a pci gforce 5200 card but i already have a gforce3 card that does not allow the latist version [03:29] <_2> >> Unable to find the Ncurses libraries. [03:29] <_2> >> You must have Ncurses installed in order [03:29] <_2> >> to use 'make menuconfig' [03:29] _2: you prolly need -dev package [03:29] <_2> i have both ncurses-bin and ncurses-base as well as libncurses-dev [03:30] <_2> there is no ncurses-dev btw [03:30] inteliwasp: better go for the nv drivers then :( [03:30] nosrednaekim for both or the gf3? [03:30] for both [03:32] okay, i've got a stupid question, if anyone can help me [03:32] i've just installed kubuntu 8.10, switching from ubuntu using gnome [03:32] and was wondering if anyone could help me to change the window decoration theme... [03:33] i'm not sure which packages i'm missing, mostly..at least, that's how it seems to me [03:34] <_2> maybe the error message is inaccurate, maybe it's a missing compiler [03:34] max_: yeah, go to systemsettings->appearance->windows [03:34] <_2> /bin/sh: gcc-3.3: command not found === ubuntu is now known as notahuman [03:34] <_2> yeah that was it. problem solved. === notahuman is now known as whatever === heather is now known as faerykisses === whatever is now known as who_ever [03:36] hi there, i wonder if there is a tools for kubuntu to edit windows registry ? === luser is now known as joseph [03:45] Excuse me. How can I get dbus-monitor? [03:46] !info dbus-monitor [03:46] Package dbus-monitor does not exist in intrepid [03:46] !find dbus-monitor [03:46] File dbus-monitor found in dbus [03:47] its installed by default, just run dbus-monitor [04:01] Can somone please help me with this? http://linux.die.net/man/1/dbus-monitor === root is now known as Guest79697 [04:04] I have a Intel ALC268 Audio card, under Windows the maximum volume sucks, with headphones. You can go in and adjust an equalizer in the drivers to get it to be regular level. How can I do that with Linux? Also I'm having problems with high CPU Usage in KDE [04:04] [04:04] [04:04] [04:09] SJr|Nbook: you can use Kmix... if it doesn't show all the channels, you mayneed to enable them via configure->channels [04:09] SJr|Nbook: for highCPU usage, press ctrl+esc and then sort the processes by CPU usage and see which is the culprit [04:10] Xorg, Plasma, krunner [04:10] And the channels are all there [04:10] but the max value is pithy [04:10] I tried adding the rest but there is nothing that is controlling output volume there [04:11] SJr|Nbook: ok, I'm not familiar with the sound chip, try googling if anyone else has had the problem. [04:11] as for the CPU usage issue, I'm suspection compositing/effects.. do you have them turned on? === ghost is now known as khesatan [04:12] Hmmmmm yeah [04:12] Could anyone see screenshot? http://skittent.net/~enoj/kubuntu-installer.png - Trying to install Kubuntu using these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux ( got partition where I placed the contents from the cd and edited grub to boot from this partition (booting from partition is (0,4)) - sda1 never appears in the install to the right in the screenshot [04:15] taking a look jone [04:16] great, thanks :) [04:18] jone: did you run that Unetbootin as root (or sudo)? [04:18] how do i install compiz? [04:18] i did it manually [04:19] the details below the Unetbootin link [04:19] under which section [04:20] live cd [04:20] at the top [04:20] i have compiz-wrapper installed how do i get more desktop effects? === m4v is now known as i === i is now known as m4v [04:21] or the cube and fire paint? [04:21] jone: which step are you on? [04:22] nosrednaekim: where you choose where you want it installed (which partition) [04:22] the list is empty [04:23] it's after i choosed manual setup for partitions [04:23] OH! heh... is this the Juanty Beta? [04:24] or alpha... [04:26] jone? [04:27] well no i just chose the latest === maxim is now known as maxim__ [04:27] hallo [04:28] kubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso [04:28] ah... hmmm [04:28] if I put a kingston memory card in it, that one appears === cky_ is now known as genesis === genesis is now known as eatz_glue [04:29] soo... did the guided partitioning have anything on it? I've never seen an empty manual partitioning screen: its very odd <_< === leromo_ is now known as leromo [04:30] could it be because the installer is mounted on the same drive as where i want it installed? (i created a new partition for it on the same drive) [04:31] the installer is booting from sda5 [04:31] i want it installed on sda1 [04:31] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166871 [04:31] Has anyone else encounted this? [04:32] jone: nah... that shouldn't bother it [04:33] I don't think [04:33] hi [04:33] hey volker [04:36] hi nosrednaekim [04:37] !de [04:37] Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, und #edubuntu-de [04:38] Excuse me. Can someone please help me? [04:38] http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=26231 [04:38] spricht hier jemand Deutsch? [04:38] How do I apply this "patch"? [04:39] !de [04:39] Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, und #edubuntu-de [04:39] !patch [04:39] Patches are files describing the changes in code to achieve some results. There are a number of ways these can be produced, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/PatchSystems may provide some useful guidelines. [04:41] Ok. I see this. [04:41] But...I'm still rather new to Linux. [04:41] And...I...I need a guided hand please. [04:55] how to set the ip? [04:57] guiterb: for what? [04:57] Adola: Patches are not exactly for the new :P [04:57] Adola: I gather that Kaffiene is failing to play a file? [04:58] nosrednaekim: No, it's AmaroK 2 and Kopete. Kopete sucks and won't show "now playing" as it should. That "Patch" is supposedly going to fix it. I just need help in applying it :D [04:59] so its a patch for amarok or for kopete? [05:00] For Kopete. [05:00] Because, kopete wouldn't support ANYTHING using Dbus. [05:00] And, this fixs AmaroK 2, Juk, and other stuff [05:01] ah, I see.... this is a patch for the kde3 version of kopete, or is it for the kde4 one? [05:02] I'm not sure. [05:02] I'm assuming KDE4. I seen no SPECIFIC mention. [05:04] Hi, when I get my microphone to work for Skype microphone sound is looping back through the speakers. I have to have the volume in for the microphone super high in order to work with Skype, which means that is feedsback with the speakers. Is there any way to solve this (other than headphones which means that no one else can here the conversation)? The microphone has to be up sooo high even with headphones the sound from Microphone is so loud it [05:04] is hard to hear the voice of the person being called on Skype. [05:05] So. How do I apply this patch? [05:05] Hey [05:05] How do I switch off visual effects ? [05:06] I don`t find that option in system settings [05:09] Adola: it matters which version its for [05:09] kde4 [05:09] Kopete [05:09] Version 0.60.3 [05:09] Using KDE 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3) [05:10] nosrednaekim: yes, thats the one you are running... but is that the one the patch is for? [05:11] can someone tell me how to disable visual effects in kubuntu 8.10 kde4 [05:12] nosrednaekim: Version: unspecified [05:12] Straight from KDE BTS' site [05:12] vignesh: yes... alt+chift+f12 [05:12] Adola: ok [05:12] nosrednaekim, Thaks [05:13] Adola: fraid I can't really help you. if its the kde4 version, the patch should be included in the next release (soon) and if its kde3 it'll be eliminated anyway [05:13] so I'd say just wait it out a bit :P [05:13] nosrednaekim: Ok. === keres is now known as keres`zZz [05:20] i created user accounts how to change all passwords from root vip [05:21] need to lock this box up [05:21] reboot08: "passwd username" [05:21] either that or i whipe hard drive 2 hrs toime frame [05:22] break up in progress [05:22] from root prompt right? [05:23] k [05:23] too much info on here [05:28] not working help [05:28] have three user accounts all vulnerable [05:28] need to change i have root === root is now known as Guest34767 [05:53] so far so good peoples. [05:53] kde 4.1 is slick. [06:15] Hi all. [06:15] Can anyone vouch for using KDE 4.2 on a daily basis as an experienced linux user? [06:15] or should i just stick with kde 4.1.3, i ask because 4.2 really looks killer. not sure if i want to wait. :) [06:16] Arv3n: I use it on a daily basis. [06:16] is it buggy? [06:16] i tried it on opensuse 11.1 and it was _REALLY_ buggy. [06:16] Arv3n: but that's because nothing is terribly problematic for me; I don't know what the dealbreakers are for you [06:16] hm. [06:17] would you recommend it? [06:17] Plasma crashes sometimes, Akregator resizes the article list columns, Akonadi doesn't like things it doesn't expect, and Konsole doesn't remember transparency [06:17] oh, thats not bad. [06:18] I haven't encountered anything that bad; but it *really* depends on the use case [06:19] i think i might do it then. [06:19] Arv3n: I used the Launchpad PPA for KDE4.2 -- it's pretty easy to revert if needed, I think [06:19] ultimately, if you're willing to rely on your backups, it's worth a try [06:22] alright, im upgrading. =) [06:22] i <3 my upgraded connection. [06:31] I'm trying to zip a dir and exclude one subdir: "zip -r foo.zip foo -x foo/images/" It seems to ignore the exclude. Anyone have any ideas? [06:40] Hmmmm I'm stumped, I can't seem to create an ad-hoc network that other devices can see. the mode is currently ad-hoc [06:41] For some reason it's not broadcasting [06:41] hey dude whats the best programe to run on yahoo [06:44] i need a programe for yahoo [06:45] chop: you need to be a little bit more specific before anyone can offer useful advice [06:46] i want yahoo or something to run with linux [06:46] yahoo chat programe [06:46] dont know where a best site [06:47] chop: Pidgin or Kopete [06:48] *tear* [06:48] it is beautiful. [06:49]