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andresmujicahi all01:35
andresmujicahow should i treat this issue?01:35
andresmujicahttp://www.linuxloop.com/news/2008/12/21/time-for-ubuntu-to-move-to-stability/01:35
andresmujicahttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-app-install/+bug/31145501:35
ubottuUbuntu bug 311455 in gnome-app-install "adobe air install erases add/remove application list" [Undecided,New]01:35
andresmujicahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1016743&page=201:35
andresmujicai've just confirmed that installing any adobe air application01:36
andresmujicawould erase the add/remove application list01:36
andresmujicaanyone knows about an adobe air bug tracker?01:37
andresmujicahmm01:37
andresmujicagoogle is my friend01:37
* Rocket2DMn looks01:37
andresmujicabugs.adobe.com01:37
andresmujicagonna look into there...01:38
Rocket2DMnidk if LP recognizes that upstream bug tracker01:39
Rocket2DMnyou can certainly go ahead and confirm/triage the bug on LP tho01:39
andresmujicayeap01:39
Rocket2DMnare you on bugcontrol?01:40
andresmujicai'm gonna check the upstream bug tracker01:40
andresmujicanot yet01:40
andresmujicahope to be there soon :)01:40
andresmujicabut i know how to add a bugtracker to launchpad :)01:40
Rocket2DMncool, well do your triaging and ping me when youre done, i can set the importance for you01:40
andresmujicathks01:40
Rocket2DMnnp01:40
james_wandresmujica: have you worked out why the list is empty?01:41
andresmujicaabout bugcontrol do you know when new applicactions would be reviewed?01:41
andresmujicai'm into that..01:41
andresmujicanot pretty sure yet thou01:42
james_wwhat's in "/usr/share/app-install/"01:42
james_w?01:42
andresmujicalet me recreate the bug again01:42
james_was for applications, we aim to review them within a week or so, but obviously things may move slower around this time of year01:42
james_wI'll try and review yours soon01:42
andresmujicahehe thks :)01:42
andresmujicadiff app-install/desktop/ /tmp/app-install/desktop/01:46
andresmujicaSólo en app-install/desktop/: com.happytoad.air.fotobooth.130a080afcc69239d6f9896eebed2327bc93ed43.1.desktop01:46
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andresmujicawell, it turns out that adobe has a flashplayer public bug tracking system, but it's in JIRA and therefore Launchpad still doesn't have support for it...02:48
andresmujicaRocket can you set the importance for the bug.. i would say low ...02:48
andresmujicafor bug #31145502:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 311455 in gnome-app-install "adobe air install erases add/remove application list" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31145502:49
andresmujicabug #15748802:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 157488 in malone "Add bugwatch support for the Jira bugtracker" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15748802:50
andresmujicafor the JIRA issue...02:50
Rocket2DMnis this really a gnome-app-install issue?02:52
* Hobbsee mutters about crack packaging02:52
Hobbseeand this is *precisely* why we don't enable stuff like this by default.02:52
HobbseeRocket2DMn: it's not a gnome-app-install issue, i don't think02:53
Hobbseealthough perhaps it should be more robust?02:53
Rocket2DMnidk02:53
Hobbseeoh, getlibs too02:53
Hobbseeright, we really don't support that then02:53
Hobbseeoh wow, that's *really* special.02:54
Rocket2DMnwhat the heck kind of install directions are those, lol02:55
HobbseeRocket2DMn: ones which subvert the entire packaging system02:55
Rocket2DMnindeed02:55
Hobbsee"take these files out of a deb, and put them in a location"02:56
Hobbseeno, just fix your scripts, and install the debs as normal.  duh?02:56
Hobbseewgrant: look above, you might enjoy this crack02:56
Rocket2DMnok, so where exactly in the "install" process is it breaking the system?02:57
Rocket2DMnsomewhere something happens that results in the applications not being shown in add/remove02:58
andresmujicayeap, i do agree that is not gnome-app-install fault....02:59
Rocket2DMngnome-app-install ?03:02
Rocket2DMnHobbsee and andresmujica ^03:03
Rocket2DMnhmmm03:03
Rocket2DMnthats the only thing i can find that makes sense03:03
Rocket2DMnbut its still not right03:03
HobbseeRocket2DMn: i don't know, but it looks like they're on severe crack with their written instructions, let alone what's in their deb.03:04
* wgrant cries.03:04
Rocket2DMn+1 wgrant03:04
Rocket2DMnwhat configuration got screwed up that add/remove doesnt see the list anymore though?03:04
* Hobbsee wonders if playonlinux is worse, or better, than that abomination03:04
wgrantPlayOnLinux is undoubtedly worse.03:05
wgrantBut it's easier to install.03:05
wgrantRocket2DMn: I'm trying to work that out.03:05
Rocket2DMnautomatix for life baby03:05
Hobbseethat was also on crack.03:05
wgrantPlayOnLinux has worse code than Automatix.03:05
Hobbseeand also broke things03:05
wgrantAutomatix did worse things, but its code was better.03:05
Rocket2DMnnow they have ultamatix03:05
Hobbseewhich is still written by an incompetent.03:05
Hobbseesee mjg59's reviews of all of them.03:06
* Rocket2DMn misses Feisty03:06
Rocket2DMnok well it would be cool if we can track down what is changed that add/remove reads, perhaps it just cant parse some configuration/xml file?  maybe its a glitch that DOES fall under gnome-app-install03:07
Rocket2DMndespite those shoddy install directions03:07
andresmujicawell. i've installed some air applications and the only thing i've found at /usr/share/app-install was that desktop dir was modified by adding a .desktop file for the air app installed.03:08
andresmujicaand the name is somewhat long so maybe that's the faul?03:08
andresmujicat03:08
HobbseeRocket2DMn: the other problem is that only part of 2 packages are being installed03:08
Hobbseeand whatever getlibs crack does03:08
wgrantI'm a little confused as to the point of Adobe AIR - is it basically writing web applications that run on fewer platforms than web applications?03:08
Hobbseeso there could well be incompatibility there (either now in the future)03:09
andresmujicaone of the air apps installed is called FotoBoth, a lame copy of cheese...03:10
Hobbseewgrant: it's trying to cash in on the macbook appeal03:10
Rocket2DMnyeah this is using an entire process that is unsupported.... getlibs isnt in any of our repos or debian's03:12
Alonelyheya; I'm having an incredibly aggravating time trying to dual-boot Windows and Linux; when I attempt to install Ubuntu, this shows up: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"03:13
AlonelyI want this so badly to work :<03:14
Rocket2DMnAlonely, this isnt a support channel, you should try #ubuntu03:15
Rocket2DMnwhat version of ubuntu are you using anyway, i havent seen that error in quite some time03:15
AlonelyI know, I'm just venting frustration03:15
Alonelyhrm, to be honest, I'm not exactly sure03:16
Alonelystupid as that is03:16
Alonelymy friend burned me a copy awhile ago and I just now got around to using it03:16
Rocket2DMnhow long ago was awhile ago03:16
Alonelyprobably about a year03:16
Rocket2DMnyeah that could be an unsupported version of Ubuntu03:17
Rocket2DMnyou should download the latest from ubuntu.com03:18
Alonelymm, I'll just have to wait until I can burn the newest one03:18
Hobbseeor get them to send you one03:18
Alonelyas of now I have no blank CDs, bah03:18
Alonelytrue03:18
Hobbseewhere are you located?03:18
AlonelyFlorida, USA03:19
Hobbseehrm03:19
* Hobbsee looks at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FloridaTeam/NewUser03:20
Hobbseethere are some linux user groups there - one of them can probably give you a cd of it03:21
Hobbseesomeone in #ubuntu-florida might be able to send you one more quickly, too03:21
Alonelythankya! :D03:21
Hobbseeyou're welcome!03:21
* Hobbsee has a couple, but is in australia, so isn't so much help ;)03:22
Alonely:<03:22
Alonelypoo03:22
Alonelyalsoalso, since my newbishness has already been displayed03:22
AlonelyI have a quick question: kubuntu or xubuntu?03:22
AlonelyI'm thinking KDE03:23
Hobbseewhich do you like the look of more?03:23
AlonelyKubuntu03:23
Alonelyso that?03:23
Hobbseethen go with that ;)03:23
Alonely'kay03:23
Alonelygee tanks03:23
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duanedesignbug #307684 could someone please set this bug to 'wishlist', thank you05:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 307684 in transmission "Transmission should not verify all data when restarted after forced exit by logout" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30768405:54
crimsunduanedesign: done.05:56
duanedesignthank you05:56
duanedesignBug #311415 I think this bug should probabally be set to 'wishlist'06:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 311415 in kubuntu-meta "Add the droid fonts and make it the default for Kubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31141506:48
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duanedesigna bug concerning a broken link on https://help.ubuntu.com should be attached to?07:56
Hobbseeubuntu-website, i think07:56
duanedesigni  think you are right. i did one awhile back and couldnt remember it.07:57
duanedesignthank you07:57
duanedesignyou08:15
duanedesignI think Bug #311747 should be set to 'wishlist', thank you08:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 311747 in ubuntu "canonical priority should be system (gnome) performance" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31174708:15
macokernel.org's priority maybe ought to be up there as well...08:16
Hobbseethat sounds like it should get lost in the murky depths of brainstorm08:28
* Hobbsee smacks it with a stick08:28
duanedesignHobbsee: thank you08:30
Hobbseenp08:30
duanedesignI think Bug #311606 should be set to 'wishlist' thank you08:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 311606 in ubuntu "Wish: Multilingual password option" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31160608:32
Hobbseemarked08:34
duanedesignthank you again08:35
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_ismael_bonjour14:49
_ismael_hi14:49
skorasaurushowdy.15:55
nhandlerHi skorasaurus15:56
skorasaurushow do I create an upstream task ? I was reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Marking%20a%20Bug%20as%20Requiring%20Forwarding but it does not say how.15:57
skorasaurusi suggest that it should say how, or at least, link to a page that it should.15:57
skorasauruslink to a page that describes how*15:57
nhandlerskorasaurus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Watches explains how to set a bug watch15:59
skorasaurusnhandler, aha.16:00
nhandlerFeel free to edit the wiki page to make it more clear16:00
skorasaurusI'm confused then, what's the difference between creating an upstream task and setting a bug watch ?16:00
skorasaurus(they seem like the same thing, or no ?)16:01
skorasaurusnhandler, i'll edit the page.16:01
nhandlerThey are pretty much the same thing. An upstream task just says that it affects an upstream project. A bug watch takes it one step further and actually links to an upstream bug report16:02
skorasaurusk. thanks for the info.16:03
skorasaurusI'll add that to the page too.16:03
* skorasaurus is starting to triage bugs and is forwarding one upstream16:04
nhandlerskorasaurus: Keep in mind, many people will sometimes use the two terms interchangeably16:05
skorasaurusk. thanks.16:06
charlie-tcaHere's an interesting bug... bug 31175917:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 311759 in ubuntu "booting failure with multiboot 8.10 live cd`s" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31175917:09
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MTecknologyHobbsee: ping18:45
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skorasaurusHi.19:45
Nafalloubottu: please kick emma or something...19:48
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:48
skorasaurusi just triaged one of my first bugs, anyone mind to see if I did it right ?20:03
joumetalwhat is number of that bug?20:06
skorasaurusoh sorry.20:09
skorasaurushttps://bugs.launchpad.net/brasero/+bug/31188020:09
ubottuUbuntu bug 311880 in brasero "Brasero reports ISO standard as having gender. [typo]" [Undecided,Confirmed]20:09
hggdhskorasaurus, good work. I marked it triaged. Thanks for the help20:14
skorasaurusonce I do my part, do I post in here that it needs to be marked triaged ?20:17
skorasaurus(because it's marked confirmed, right ?)20:17
hggdhskorasaurus, yes, it was marked confirmed. Only bug-control can mark it triaged20:23
skorasaurusk.20:23
hggdhonce it has been confirmed, and there is nothing else to be done by bugsquad/control, we mark it traiged20:23
skorasaurusthanks hggdh20:23
hggdhsince you did it all... THANKS20:24
grindholdhello: i've got a strange problem. i installed a fresh ubuntu on a pc. i tried to install the updates on the system but it tells me, that it cannot reach the update servers. sources.list fits and i don't know what to do else. on this pc i can reach the update-servers20:24
grindholdi already tried the main server, the german server an the switzerland server for updates20:25
grindholdi also get very much md5 hashsum mismatches for no reason20:25
hggdhgrindhold, you will probably get more help on #ubuntu -- this channel is not for user support20:26
hggdhbut20:26
hggdhyou *do* have a network connection, right?20:26
LimCorehello20:27
grindholdyes. ubuntu already installed about 50 packages :D20:27
grindholderr.. updates20:27
LimCore[8.10] switching of users - fails on all boxes I have access too.  Either epically (it doesnt work at all, or crashes machine with nvidia driver) or partially (it works at random, on intell gfx)20:27
hggdhgrindhold, did you manually change the sources.list? and what version of Ubuntu?20:27
LimCorereport this agains what package? Im testing on gnome20:28
grindholdintrepid. i changed sources.list with the graphical interface20:28
hggdhLimCore, fast-user-switch-applet20:28
LimCorethanks hggdh20:28
hggdhgrindhold, can you show your sources.list in a pastebin?20:29
grindholdroger20:29
LimCorehow to get a bug to have higher fixme priority>20:30
hggdhLimCore, you can raise the importance (but this will not mean that it will be worked now). You can also esplain in the bug *why* it should be looked at now20:33
hggdhs/esplain/explain/20:33
grindholdthis here is the sources.list http://pastebin.com/d4503b87520:37
LimCorewell it is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fast-user-switch-applet/+bug/311978 anyway20:44
ubottuUbuntu bug 311978 in fast-user-switch-applet "epic or partiall fail of user switching: crash (nvidia) or works only each 2nd or 3rd time (intell gfx) " [Undecided,New]20:44
grindholdshort read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/openoffice/program/libsvgfilter680li.so')20:53
grindholdwhat does that mean20:53
grindholdi just wanted to fix broken packages20:53
grindholdand get this error oO20:53
LimCoregrindhold: pastebin or something the full error?20:54
grindholddamnit... closed the window.. i am trying to reproduce the error20:59
grindholdhere :20:59
grindholdhttp://pastebin.com/d23d151420:59
hggdhgrindhold, it looks like your sources.list is kosher21:02
grindholdthx hggdh, i think that too21:03
hggdhgrindhold, how are you on disk space?21:05
grindholdhggdh: this pc has about 960 GB free space :D21:08
grindholdsooo. i deleted these packages manually from /var/cache/apt/archives, restarted and tried to reinstall them.. now i get these: http://rafb.net/p/9z1UC782.html21:12
grindholdi am about to milk mice -.-21:13
hggdhgrindhold, let's get back to disk space: did you install under one single filesystem?21:16
grindholdi have a swap with the size of 2 GiB on a 500 GB disk. the rest ist ext3 and the ubuntu is running on it21:17
grindholdi have a second disk fully formatted in ext3, mounted under /media/files21:18
hggdhok, so all of Ubuntu is under /21:20
grindholdroger21:20
grindholdyes.. the 498 GiB partition is mounted under /21:20
joumetalbug 130813 looks similar21:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 130813 in apt-mirror "Hash Sum mismatch" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/13081321:21
joumetalgrindhold: have you already tried archive.ubuntu.com?21:23
hggdhjoumetal, good idea21:23
grindholdyes i tried, joumetal. that's the Ubuntu Main Server, aight?21:23
joumetalyes. does it give same error? (after apt-get update)21:25
hggdhgrindhold, yes. did you put *all* sources.list under it?21:25
grindholdhow do you mean that? hggdh21:26
hggdhall sources in sources.list were using archive.ubuntu.com, correct?21:27
grindholdi have to look at sources.list again.. just a moment21:28
grindholdhggdh: everything runs under archive.ubuntu.com except 2 lines with "archive.canonical.com"21:31
grindholdit should be allright, no?21:31
hggdhit should, but just in case, comment out the archive.canonical.com21:31
hggdhand try again21:31
* hggdh does not believe in witches, but that they exist, they do21:32
grindholdi commented it out. now i have a new prob maybe this makes things clearer: i get this error: "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)" while trying to get the new repository indexes21:35
hggdhyay21:37
grindholdit's so confuscating :D21:38
crimsunkeep in mind that transparent proxies often do nefarious things. check with your isp.21:40
grindholdbut the source is NOT offline and from another pc with the same isp in the same household i reach the packages :D21:42
crimsungrindhold: is that bzip2 error reproducible across several hours?21:47
grindholdit is ocurring at all servers21:47
grindholdnow i tried the "find best server"-feature21:47
grindholdi get the same error21:47
grindholdcrimsun: i do not think, that the sources are down.. its nearly impossible, that so many are down. and i reach them with another pc in the same network. thats the riddiculous thing21:48
joumetalhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=756864 gives some suggestions. like aptitude update and links to another thread too.21:49
crimsungrindhold: i doubt it would be the repositories' issue21:49
crimsungrindhold: i suspect either a medium error (wireless or wired ethernet?) or a driver error21:49
crimsungrindhold: i.e., which driver are you using?21:55
grindholddriver for ethernet?21:58
crimsungrindhold: whichever driver for whichever hardware over which the data flow21:59
grindholdehrmm.. how am i going to find that out?22:00
grindholdi think i will not do that with ifconfig22:00
crimsungrindhold: lspci -v and lsmod22:01
grindholdlsmod http://pastebin.com/d3aac2f9c  lspci  http://pastebin.com/d2813b40522:04
crimsungrindhold: is the r8169 driver generating any errors that you can see via dmesg?22:05
grindholdi can see none.. i searched with dmesg | grep r816922:06
grindholdi get this > http://pastebin.com/d1ef986b122:07
crimsungrindhold: ok. how comfortable are you reading network traces? (tcpdump/tshark output)22:08
crimsun(or wireshark if you prefer a gui)22:08
grindholdi would use wireshark if i were able to download it. i may try. i know the main protocols, but i am not really able to interpret the hexdump22:09
crimsunok, let's go another level higher. anything suspicious in /var/lib/apt/lists/ ?22:12
grindholddefine "suspicious". there are files that begin with the names of servers i tried yet. the mainserver, the german mainserver, and intergenia.ubuntu.de further there are the canonical archives, a lock file, and a folder with the name partial. i can not see anything that shouldn|t be there22:14
crimsungrindhold: ok, this may sound stupid, but does bunzip2 actually work properly? can you confirm with a silly text file?22:17
grindholdthis textfile is supposed to be saved als .bz2, aight?22:18
grindholdokay.. bunzip2 yourmum.bz2 --> bunzip2: yourmum.bz2 is not a bzip2 file.22:21
grindholdi think it works right22:21
crimsungrindhold: sorry, you should bzip2 a text file, then bunzip2 it22:25
grindholdahrgs kay :)22:25
grindholdyes it works22:26
crimsunoh, whew22:26
grindholdi the outputfile is the same as the input22:26
crimsuncan you try backing up /var/lib/apt/lists/*, then removing it and rerunning the aptitude update ?22:26
grindholdi can try.. atm the system is wasted anyway :D22:27
grindholdjust wait a moment22:27
crimsuni'm actually headed out for dinner, but i will check back in ~3 hours. hopefully you'll have chased it down. =)22:29
grindholdi hope too22:29
grindholdthx22:29
hggdhgrindhold, how are things going?23:24
grindholdhggdh: just reinstalling the whole system23:26
grindholdi cant find anything else.. its riddiculous23:26
HobbseeMTecknology: contentless pong?23:37

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