andresmujica | hi all | 01:35 |
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andresmujica | how should i treat this issue? | 01:35 |
andresmujica | http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2008/12/21/time-for-ubuntu-to-move-to-stability/ | 01:35 |
andresmujica | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-app-install/+bug/311455 | 01:35 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 311455 in gnome-app-install "adobe air install erases add/remove application list" [Undecided,New] | 01:35 |
andresmujica | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1016743&page=2 | 01:35 |
andresmujica | i've just confirmed that installing any adobe air application | 01:36 |
andresmujica | would erase the add/remove application list | 01:36 |
andresmujica | anyone knows about an adobe air bug tracker? | 01:37 |
andresmujica | hmm | 01:37 |
andresmujica | google is my friend | 01:37 |
* Rocket2DMn looks | 01:37 | |
andresmujica | bugs.adobe.com | 01:37 |
andresmujica | gonna look into there... | 01:38 |
Rocket2DMn | idk if LP recognizes that upstream bug tracker | 01:39 |
Rocket2DMn | you can certainly go ahead and confirm/triage the bug on LP tho | 01:39 |
andresmujica | yeap | 01:39 |
Rocket2DMn | are you on bugcontrol? | 01:40 |
andresmujica | i'm gonna check the upstream bug tracker | 01:40 |
andresmujica | not yet | 01:40 |
andresmujica | hope to be there soon :) | 01:40 |
andresmujica | but i know how to add a bugtracker to launchpad :) | 01:40 |
Rocket2DMn | cool, well do your triaging and ping me when youre done, i can set the importance for you | 01:40 |
andresmujica | thks | 01:40 |
Rocket2DMn | np | 01:40 |
james_w | andresmujica: have you worked out why the list is empty? | 01:41 |
andresmujica | about bugcontrol do you know when new applicactions would be reviewed? | 01:41 |
andresmujica | i'm into that.. | 01:41 |
andresmujica | not pretty sure yet thou | 01:42 |
james_w | what's in "/usr/share/app-install/" | 01:42 |
james_w | ? | 01:42 |
andresmujica | let me recreate the bug again | 01:42 |
james_w | as for applications, we aim to review them within a week or so, but obviously things may move slower around this time of year | 01:42 |
james_w | I'll try and review yours soon | 01:42 |
andresmujica | hehe thks :) | 01:42 |
andresmujica | diff app-install/desktop/ /tmp/app-install/desktop/ | 01:46 |
andresmujica | Sólo en app-install/desktop/: com.happytoad.air.fotobooth.130a080afcc69239d6f9896eebed2327bc93ed43.1.desktop | 01:46 |
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andresmujica | well, it turns out that adobe has a flashplayer public bug tracking system, but it's in JIRA and therefore Launchpad still doesn't have support for it... | 02:48 |
andresmujica | Rocket can you set the importance for the bug.. i would say low ... | 02:48 |
andresmujica | for bug #311455 | 02:49 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 311455 in gnome-app-install "adobe air install erases add/remove application list" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/311455 | 02:49 |
andresmujica | bug #157488 | 02:50 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 157488 in malone "Add bugwatch support for the Jira bugtracker" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157488 | 02:50 |
andresmujica | for the JIRA issue... | 02:50 |
Rocket2DMn | is this really a gnome-app-install issue? | 02:52 |
* Hobbsee mutters about crack packaging | 02:52 | |
Hobbsee | and this is *precisely* why we don't enable stuff like this by default. | 02:52 |
Hobbsee | Rocket2DMn: it's not a gnome-app-install issue, i don't think | 02:53 |
Hobbsee | although perhaps it should be more robust? | 02:53 |
Rocket2DMn | idk | 02:53 |
Hobbsee | oh, getlibs too | 02:53 |
Hobbsee | right, we really don't support that then | 02:53 |
Hobbsee | oh wow, that's *really* special. | 02:54 |
Rocket2DMn | what the heck kind of install directions are those, lol | 02:55 |
Hobbsee | Rocket2DMn: ones which subvert the entire packaging system | 02:55 |
Rocket2DMn | indeed | 02:55 |
Hobbsee | "take these files out of a deb, and put them in a location" | 02:56 |
Hobbsee | no, just fix your scripts, and install the debs as normal. duh? | 02:56 |
Hobbsee | wgrant: look above, you might enjoy this crack | 02:56 |
Rocket2DMn | ok, so where exactly in the "install" process is it breaking the system? | 02:57 |
Rocket2DMn | somewhere something happens that results in the applications not being shown in add/remove | 02:58 |
andresmujica | yeap, i do agree that is not gnome-app-install fault.... | 02:59 |
Rocket2DMn | gnome-app-install ? | 03:02 |
Rocket2DMn | Hobbsee and andresmujica ^ | 03:03 |
Rocket2DMn | hmmm | 03:03 |
Rocket2DMn | thats the only thing i can find that makes sense | 03:03 |
Rocket2DMn | but its still not right | 03:03 |
Hobbsee | Rocket2DMn: i don't know, but it looks like they're on severe crack with their written instructions, let alone what's in their deb. | 03:04 |
* wgrant cries. | 03:04 | |
Rocket2DMn | +1 wgrant | 03:04 |
Rocket2DMn | what configuration got screwed up that add/remove doesnt see the list anymore though? | 03:04 |
* Hobbsee wonders if playonlinux is worse, or better, than that abomination | 03:04 | |
wgrant | PlayOnLinux is undoubtedly worse. | 03:05 |
wgrant | But it's easier to install. | 03:05 |
wgrant | Rocket2DMn: I'm trying to work that out. | 03:05 |
Rocket2DMn | automatix for life baby | 03:05 |
Hobbsee | that was also on crack. | 03:05 |
wgrant | PlayOnLinux has worse code than Automatix. | 03:05 |
Hobbsee | and also broke things | 03:05 |
wgrant | Automatix did worse things, but its code was better. | 03:05 |
Rocket2DMn | now they have ultamatix | 03:05 |
Hobbsee | which is still written by an incompetent. | 03:05 |
Hobbsee | see mjg59's reviews of all of them. | 03:06 |
* Rocket2DMn misses Feisty | 03:06 | |
Rocket2DMn | ok well it would be cool if we can track down what is changed that add/remove reads, perhaps it just cant parse some configuration/xml file? maybe its a glitch that DOES fall under gnome-app-install | 03:07 |
Rocket2DMn | despite those shoddy install directions | 03:07 |
andresmujica | well. i've installed some air applications and the only thing i've found at /usr/share/app-install was that desktop dir was modified by adding a .desktop file for the air app installed. | 03:08 |
andresmujica | and the name is somewhat long so maybe that's the faul? | 03:08 |
andresmujica | t | 03:08 |
Hobbsee | Rocket2DMn: the other problem is that only part of 2 packages are being installed | 03:08 |
Hobbsee | and whatever getlibs crack does | 03:08 |
wgrant | I'm a little confused as to the point of Adobe AIR - is it basically writing web applications that run on fewer platforms than web applications? | 03:08 |
Hobbsee | so there could well be incompatibility there (either now in the future) | 03:09 |
andresmujica | one of the air apps installed is called FotoBoth, a lame copy of cheese... | 03:10 |
Hobbsee | wgrant: it's trying to cash in on the macbook appeal | 03:10 |
Rocket2DMn | yeah this is using an entire process that is unsupported.... getlibs isnt in any of our repos or debian's | 03:12 |
Alonely | heya; I'm having an incredibly aggravating time trying to dual-boot Windows and Linux; when I attempt to install Ubuntu, this shows up: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" | 03:13 |
Alonely | I want this so badly to work :< | 03:14 |
Rocket2DMn | Alonely, this isnt a support channel, you should try #ubuntu | 03:15 |
Rocket2DMn | what version of ubuntu are you using anyway, i havent seen that error in quite some time | 03:15 |
Alonely | I know, I'm just venting frustration | 03:15 |
Alonely | hrm, to be honest, I'm not exactly sure | 03:16 |
Alonely | stupid as that is | 03:16 |
Alonely | my friend burned me a copy awhile ago and I just now got around to using it | 03:16 |
Rocket2DMn | how long ago was awhile ago | 03:16 |
Alonely | probably about a year | 03:16 |
Rocket2DMn | yeah that could be an unsupported version of Ubuntu | 03:17 |
Rocket2DMn | you should download the latest from ubuntu.com | 03:18 |
Alonely | mm, I'll just have to wait until I can burn the newest one | 03:18 |
Hobbsee | or get them to send you one | 03:18 |
Alonely | as of now I have no blank CDs, bah | 03:18 |
Alonely | true | 03:18 |
Hobbsee | where are you located? | 03:18 |
Alonely | Florida, USA | 03:19 |
Hobbsee | hrm | 03:19 |
* Hobbsee looks at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FloridaTeam/NewUser | 03:20 | |
Hobbsee | there are some linux user groups there - one of them can probably give you a cd of it | 03:21 |
Hobbsee | someone in #ubuntu-florida might be able to send you one more quickly, too | 03:21 |
Alonely | thankya! :D | 03:21 |
Hobbsee | you're welcome! | 03:21 |
* Hobbsee has a couple, but is in australia, so isn't so much help ;) | 03:22 | |
Alonely | :< | 03:22 |
Alonely | poo | 03:22 |
Alonely | alsoalso, since my newbishness has already been displayed | 03:22 |
Alonely | I have a quick question: kubuntu or xubuntu? | 03:22 |
Alonely | I'm thinking KDE | 03:23 |
Hobbsee | which do you like the look of more? | 03:23 |
Alonely | Kubuntu | 03:23 |
Alonely | so that? | 03:23 |
Hobbsee | then go with that ;) | 03:23 |
Alonely | 'kay | 03:23 |
Alonely | gee tanks | 03:23 |
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duanedesign | bug #307684 could someone please set this bug to 'wishlist', thank you | 05:54 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 307684 in transmission "Transmission should not verify all data when restarted after forced exit by logout" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/307684 | 05:54 |
crimsun | duanedesign: done. | 05:56 |
duanedesign | thank you | 05:56 |
duanedesign | Bug #311415 I think this bug should probabally be set to 'wishlist' | 06:48 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 311415 in kubuntu-meta "Add the droid fonts and make it the default for Kubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/311415 | 06:48 |
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duanedesign | a bug concerning a broken link on https://help.ubuntu.com should be attached to? | 07:56 |
Hobbsee | ubuntu-website, i think | 07:56 |
duanedesign | i think you are right. i did one awhile back and couldnt remember it. | 07:57 |
duanedesign | thank you | 07:57 |
duanedesign | you | 08:15 |
duanedesign | I think Bug #311747 should be set to 'wishlist', thank you | 08:15 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 311747 in ubuntu "canonical priority should be system (gnome) performance" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/311747 | 08:15 |
maco | kernel.org's priority maybe ought to be up there as well... | 08:16 |
Hobbsee | that sounds like it should get lost in the murky depths of brainstorm | 08:28 |
* Hobbsee smacks it with a stick | 08:28 | |
duanedesign | Hobbsee: thank you | 08:30 |
Hobbsee | np | 08:30 |
duanedesign | I think Bug #311606 should be set to 'wishlist' thank you | 08:32 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 311606 in ubuntu "Wish: Multilingual password option" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/311606 | 08:32 |
Hobbsee | marked | 08:34 |
duanedesign | thank you again | 08:35 |
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_ismael_ | bonjour | 14:49 |
_ismael_ | hi | 14:49 |
skorasaurus | howdy. | 15:55 |
nhandler | Hi skorasaurus | 15:56 |
skorasaurus | how do I create an upstream task ? I was reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Marking%20a%20Bug%20as%20Requiring%20Forwarding but it does not say how. | 15:57 |
skorasaurus | i suggest that it should say how, or at least, link to a page that it should. | 15:57 |
skorasaurus | link to a page that describes how* | 15:57 |
nhandler | skorasaurus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Watches explains how to set a bug watch | 15:59 |
skorasaurus | nhandler, aha. | 16:00 |
nhandler | Feel free to edit the wiki page to make it more clear | 16:00 |
skorasaurus | I'm confused then, what's the difference between creating an upstream task and setting a bug watch ? | 16:00 |
skorasaurus | (they seem like the same thing, or no ?) | 16:01 |
skorasaurus | nhandler, i'll edit the page. | 16:01 |
nhandler | They are pretty much the same thing. An upstream task just says that it affects an upstream project. A bug watch takes it one step further and actually links to an upstream bug report | 16:02 |
skorasaurus | k. thanks for the info. | 16:03 |
skorasaurus | I'll add that to the page too. | 16:03 |
* skorasaurus is starting to triage bugs and is forwarding one upstream | 16:04 | |
nhandler | skorasaurus: Keep in mind, many people will sometimes use the two terms interchangeably | 16:05 |
skorasaurus | k. thanks. | 16:06 |
charlie-tca | Here's an interesting bug... bug 311759 | 17:09 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 311759 in ubuntu "booting failure with multiboot 8.10 live cd`s" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/311759 | 17:09 |
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MTecknology | Hobbsee: ping | 18:45 |
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skorasaurus | Hi. | 19:45 |
Nafallo | ubottu: please kick emma or something... | 19:48 |
ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 19:48 |
skorasaurus | i just triaged one of my first bugs, anyone mind to see if I did it right ? | 20:03 |
joumetal | what is number of that bug? | 20:06 |
skorasaurus | oh sorry. | 20:09 |
skorasaurus | https://bugs.launchpad.net/brasero/+bug/311880 | 20:09 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 311880 in brasero "Brasero reports ISO standard as having gender. [typo]" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 20:09 |
hggdh | skorasaurus, good work. I marked it triaged. Thanks for the help | 20:14 |
skorasaurus | once I do my part, do I post in here that it needs to be marked triaged ? | 20:17 |
skorasaurus | (because it's marked confirmed, right ?) | 20:17 |
hggdh | skorasaurus, yes, it was marked confirmed. Only bug-control can mark it triaged | 20:23 |
skorasaurus | k. | 20:23 |
hggdh | once it has been confirmed, and there is nothing else to be done by bugsquad/control, we mark it traiged | 20:23 |
skorasaurus | thanks hggdh | 20:23 |
hggdh | since you did it all... THANKS | 20:24 |
grindhold | hello: i've got a strange problem. i installed a fresh ubuntu on a pc. i tried to install the updates on the system but it tells me, that it cannot reach the update servers. sources.list fits and i don't know what to do else. on this pc i can reach the update-servers | 20:24 |
grindhold | i already tried the main server, the german server an the switzerland server for updates | 20:25 |
grindhold | i also get very much md5 hashsum mismatches for no reason | 20:25 |
hggdh | grindhold, you will probably get more help on #ubuntu -- this channel is not for user support | 20:26 |
hggdh | but | 20:26 |
hggdh | you *do* have a network connection, right? | 20:26 |
LimCore | hello | 20:27 |
grindhold | yes. ubuntu already installed about 50 packages :D | 20:27 |
grindhold | err.. updates | 20:27 |
LimCore | [8.10] switching of users - fails on all boxes I have access too. Either epically (it doesnt work at all, or crashes machine with nvidia driver) or partially (it works at random, on intell gfx) | 20:27 |
hggdh | grindhold, did you manually change the sources.list? and what version of Ubuntu? | 20:27 |
LimCore | report this agains what package? Im testing on gnome | 20:28 |
grindhold | intrepid. i changed sources.list with the graphical interface | 20:28 |
hggdh | LimCore, fast-user-switch-applet | 20:28 |
LimCore | thanks hggdh | 20:28 |
hggdh | grindhold, can you show your sources.list in a pastebin? | 20:29 |
grindhold | roger | 20:29 |
LimCore | how to get a bug to have higher fixme priority> | 20:30 |
hggdh | LimCore, you can raise the importance (but this will not mean that it will be worked now). You can also esplain in the bug *why* it should be looked at now | 20:33 |
hggdh | s/esplain/explain/ | 20:33 |
grindhold | this here is the sources.list http://pastebin.com/d4503b875 | 20:37 |
LimCore | well it is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fast-user-switch-applet/+bug/311978 anyway | 20:44 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 311978 in fast-user-switch-applet "epic or partiall fail of user switching: crash (nvidia) or works only each 2nd or 3rd time (intell gfx) " [Undecided,New] | 20:44 |
grindhold | short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/openoffice/program/libsvgfilter680li.so') | 20:53 |
grindhold | what does that mean | 20:53 |
grindhold | i just wanted to fix broken packages | 20:53 |
grindhold | and get this error oO | 20:53 |
LimCore | grindhold: pastebin or something the full error? | 20:54 |
grindhold | damnit... closed the window.. i am trying to reproduce the error | 20:59 |
grindhold | here : | 20:59 |
grindhold | http://pastebin.com/d23d1514 | 20:59 |
hggdh | grindhold, it looks like your sources.list is kosher | 21:02 |
grindhold | thx hggdh, i think that too | 21:03 |
hggdh | grindhold, how are you on disk space? | 21:05 |
grindhold | hggdh: this pc has about 960 GB free space :D | 21:08 |
grindhold | sooo. i deleted these packages manually from /var/cache/apt/archives, restarted and tried to reinstall them.. now i get these: http://rafb.net/p/9z1UC782.html | 21:12 |
grindhold | i am about to milk mice -.- | 21:13 |
hggdh | grindhold, let's get back to disk space: did you install under one single filesystem? | 21:16 |
grindhold | i have a swap with the size of 2 GiB on a 500 GB disk. the rest ist ext3 and the ubuntu is running on it | 21:17 |
grindhold | i have a second disk fully formatted in ext3, mounted under /media/files | 21:18 |
hggdh | ok, so all of Ubuntu is under / | 21:20 |
grindhold | roger | 21:20 |
grindhold | yes.. the 498 GiB partition is mounted under / | 21:20 |
joumetal | bug 130813 looks similar | 21:21 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 130813 in apt-mirror "Hash Sum mismatch" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130813 | 21:21 |
joumetal | grindhold: have you already tried archive.ubuntu.com? | 21:23 |
hggdh | joumetal, good idea | 21:23 |
grindhold | yes i tried, joumetal. that's the Ubuntu Main Server, aight? | 21:23 |
joumetal | yes. does it give same error? (after apt-get update) | 21:25 |
hggdh | grindhold, yes. did you put *all* sources.list under it? | 21:25 |
grindhold | how do you mean that? hggdh | 21:26 |
hggdh | all sources in sources.list were using archive.ubuntu.com, correct? | 21:27 |
grindhold | i have to look at sources.list again.. just a moment | 21:28 |
grindhold | hggdh: everything runs under archive.ubuntu.com except 2 lines with "archive.canonical.com" | 21:31 |
grindhold | it should be allright, no? | 21:31 |
hggdh | it should, but just in case, comment out the archive.canonical.com | 21:31 |
hggdh | and try again | 21:31 |
* hggdh does not believe in witches, but that they exist, they do | 21:32 | |
grindhold | i commented it out. now i have a new prob maybe this makes things clearer: i get this error: "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)" while trying to get the new repository indexes | 21:35 |
hggdh | yay | 21:37 |
grindhold | it's so confuscating :D | 21:38 |
crimsun | keep in mind that transparent proxies often do nefarious things. check with your isp. | 21:40 |
grindhold | but the source is NOT offline and from another pc with the same isp in the same household i reach the packages :D | 21:42 |
crimsun | grindhold: is that bzip2 error reproducible across several hours? | 21:47 |
grindhold | it is ocurring at all servers | 21:47 |
grindhold | now i tried the "find best server"-feature | 21:47 |
grindhold | i get the same error | 21:47 |
grindhold | crimsun: i do not think, that the sources are down.. its nearly impossible, that so many are down. and i reach them with another pc in the same network. thats the riddiculous thing | 21:48 |
joumetal | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=756864 gives some suggestions. like aptitude update and links to another thread too. | 21:49 |
crimsun | grindhold: i doubt it would be the repositories' issue | 21:49 |
crimsun | grindhold: i suspect either a medium error (wireless or wired ethernet?) or a driver error | 21:49 |
crimsun | grindhold: i.e., which driver are you using? | 21:55 |
grindhold | driver for ethernet? | 21:58 |
crimsun | grindhold: whichever driver for whichever hardware over which the data flow | 21:59 |
grindhold | ehrmm.. how am i going to find that out? | 22:00 |
grindhold | i think i will not do that with ifconfig | 22:00 |
crimsun | grindhold: lspci -v and lsmod | 22:01 |
grindhold | lsmod http://pastebin.com/d3aac2f9c lspci http://pastebin.com/d2813b405 | 22:04 |
crimsun | grindhold: is the r8169 driver generating any errors that you can see via dmesg? | 22:05 |
grindhold | i can see none.. i searched with dmesg | grep r8169 | 22:06 |
grindhold | i get this > http://pastebin.com/d1ef986b1 | 22:07 |
crimsun | grindhold: ok. how comfortable are you reading network traces? (tcpdump/tshark output) | 22:08 |
crimsun | (or wireshark if you prefer a gui) | 22:08 |
grindhold | i would use wireshark if i were able to download it. i may try. i know the main protocols, but i am not really able to interpret the hexdump | 22:09 |
crimsun | ok, let's go another level higher. anything suspicious in /var/lib/apt/lists/ ? | 22:12 |
grindhold | define "suspicious". there are files that begin with the names of servers i tried yet. the mainserver, the german mainserver, and intergenia.ubuntu.de further there are the canonical archives, a lock file, and a folder with the name partial. i can not see anything that shouldn|t be there | 22:14 |
crimsun | grindhold: ok, this may sound stupid, but does bunzip2 actually work properly? can you confirm with a silly text file? | 22:17 |
grindhold | this textfile is supposed to be saved als .bz2, aight? | 22:18 |
grindhold | okay.. bunzip2 yourmum.bz2 --> bunzip2: yourmum.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. | 22:21 |
grindhold | i think it works right | 22:21 |
crimsun | grindhold: sorry, you should bzip2 a text file, then bunzip2 it | 22:25 |
grindhold | ahrgs kay :) | 22:25 |
grindhold | yes it works | 22:26 |
crimsun | oh, whew | 22:26 |
grindhold | i the outputfile is the same as the input | 22:26 |
crimsun | can you try backing up /var/lib/apt/lists/*, then removing it and rerunning the aptitude update ? | 22:26 |
grindhold | i can try.. atm the system is wasted anyway :D | 22:27 |
grindhold | just wait a moment | 22:27 |
crimsun | i'm actually headed out for dinner, but i will check back in ~3 hours. hopefully you'll have chased it down. =) | 22:29 |
grindhold | i hope too | 22:29 |
grindhold | thx | 22:29 |
hggdh | grindhold, how are things going? | 23:24 |
grindhold | hggdh: just reinstalling the whole system | 23:26 |
grindhold | i cant find anything else.. its riddiculous | 23:26 |
Hobbsee | MTecknology: contentless pong? | 23:37 |
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