[01:35] hi all [01:35] how should i treat this issue? [01:35] http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2008/12/21/time-for-ubuntu-to-move-to-stability/ [01:35] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-app-install/+bug/311455 [01:35] Ubuntu bug 311455 in gnome-app-install "adobe air install erases add/remove application list" [Undecided,New] [01:35] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1016743&page=2 [01:36] i've just confirmed that installing any adobe air application [01:36] would erase the add/remove application list [01:37] anyone knows about an adobe air bug tracker? [01:37] hmm [01:37] google is my friend [01:37] * Rocket2DMn looks [01:37] bugs.adobe.com [01:38] gonna look into there... [01:39] idk if LP recognizes that upstream bug tracker [01:39] you can certainly go ahead and confirm/triage the bug on LP tho [01:39] yeap [01:40] are you on bugcontrol? [01:40] i'm gonna check the upstream bug tracker [01:40] not yet [01:40] hope to be there soon :) [01:40] but i know how to add a bugtracker to launchpad :) [01:40] cool, well do your triaging and ping me when youre done, i can set the importance for you [01:40] thks [01:40] np [01:41] andresmujica: have you worked out why the list is empty? [01:41] about bugcontrol do you know when new applicactions would be reviewed? [01:41] i'm into that.. [01:42] not pretty sure yet thou [01:42] what's in "/usr/share/app-install/" [01:42] ? [01:42] let me recreate the bug again [01:42] as for applications, we aim to review them within a week or so, but obviously things may move slower around this time of year [01:42] I'll try and review yours soon [01:42] hehe thks :) [01:46] diff app-install/desktop/ /tmp/app-install/desktop/ [01:46] Sólo en app-install/desktop/: com.happytoad.air.fotobooth.130a080afcc69239d6f9896eebed2327bc93ed43.1.desktop === Jazzva_ is now known as Jazzva [02:48] well, it turns out that adobe has a flashplayer public bug tracking system, but it's in JIRA and therefore Launchpad still doesn't have support for it... [02:48] Rocket can you set the importance for the bug.. i would say low ... [02:49] for bug #311455 [02:49] Launchpad bug 311455 in gnome-app-install "adobe air install erases add/remove application list" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/311455 [02:50] bug #157488 [02:50] Launchpad bug 157488 in malone "Add bugwatch support for the Jira bugtracker" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157488 [02:50] for the JIRA issue... [02:52] is this really a gnome-app-install issue? [02:52] * Hobbsee mutters about crack packaging [02:52] and this is *precisely* why we don't enable stuff like this by default. [02:53] Rocket2DMn: it's not a gnome-app-install issue, i don't think [02:53] although perhaps it should be more robust? [02:53] idk [02:53] oh, getlibs too [02:53] right, we really don't support that then [02:54] oh wow, that's *really* special. [02:55] what the heck kind of install directions are those, lol [02:55] Rocket2DMn: ones which subvert the entire packaging system [02:55] indeed [02:56] "take these files out of a deb, and put them in a location" [02:56] no, just fix your scripts, and install the debs as normal. duh? [02:56] wgrant: look above, you might enjoy this crack [02:57] ok, so where exactly in the "install" process is it breaking the system? [02:58] somewhere something happens that results in the applications not being shown in add/remove [02:59] yeap, i do agree that is not gnome-app-install fault.... [03:02] gnome-app-install ? [03:03] Hobbsee and andresmujica ^ [03:03] hmmm [03:03] thats the only thing i can find that makes sense [03:03] but its still not right [03:04] Rocket2DMn: i don't know, but it looks like they're on severe crack with their written instructions, let alone what's in their deb. [03:04] * wgrant cries. [03:04] +1 wgrant [03:04] what configuration got screwed up that add/remove doesnt see the list anymore though? [03:04] * Hobbsee wonders if playonlinux is worse, or better, than that abomination [03:05] PlayOnLinux is undoubtedly worse. [03:05] But it's easier to install. [03:05] Rocket2DMn: I'm trying to work that out. [03:05] automatix for life baby [03:05] that was also on crack. [03:05] PlayOnLinux has worse code than Automatix. [03:05] and also broke things [03:05] Automatix did worse things, but its code was better. [03:05] now they have ultamatix [03:05] which is still written by an incompetent. [03:06] see mjg59's reviews of all of them. [03:06] * Rocket2DMn misses Feisty [03:07] ok well it would be cool if we can track down what is changed that add/remove reads, perhaps it just cant parse some configuration/xml file? maybe its a glitch that DOES fall under gnome-app-install [03:07] despite those shoddy install directions [03:08] well. i've installed some air applications and the only thing i've found at /usr/share/app-install was that desktop dir was modified by adding a .desktop file for the air app installed. [03:08] and the name is somewhat long so maybe that's the faul? [03:08] t [03:08] Rocket2DMn: the other problem is that only part of 2 packages are being installed [03:08] and whatever getlibs crack does [03:08] I'm a little confused as to the point of Adobe AIR - is it basically writing web applications that run on fewer platforms than web applications? [03:09] so there could well be incompatibility there (either now in the future) [03:10] one of the air apps installed is called FotoBoth, a lame copy of cheese... [03:10] wgrant: it's trying to cash in on the macbook appeal [03:12] yeah this is using an entire process that is unsupported.... getlibs isnt in any of our repos or debian's [03:13] heya; I'm having an incredibly aggravating time trying to dual-boot Windows and Linux; when I attempt to install Ubuntu, this shows up: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" [03:14] I want this so badly to work :< [03:15] Alonely, this isnt a support channel, you should try #ubuntu [03:15] what version of ubuntu are you using anyway, i havent seen that error in quite some time [03:15] I know, I'm just venting frustration [03:16] hrm, to be honest, I'm not exactly sure [03:16] stupid as that is [03:16] my friend burned me a copy awhile ago and I just now got around to using it [03:16] how long ago was awhile ago [03:16] probably about a year [03:17] yeah that could be an unsupported version of Ubuntu [03:18] you should download the latest from ubuntu.com [03:18] mm, I'll just have to wait until I can burn the newest one [03:18] or get them to send you one [03:18] as of now I have no blank CDs, bah [03:18] true [03:18] where are you located? [03:19] Florida, USA [03:19] hrm [03:20] * Hobbsee looks at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FloridaTeam/NewUser [03:21] there are some linux user groups there - one of them can probably give you a cd of it [03:21] someone in #ubuntu-florida might be able to send you one more quickly, too [03:21] thankya! :D [03:21] you're welcome! [03:22] * Hobbsee has a couple, but is in australia, so isn't so much help ;) [03:22] :< [03:22] poo [03:22] alsoalso, since my newbishness has already been displayed [03:22] I have a quick question: kubuntu or xubuntu? [03:23] I'm thinking KDE [03:23] which do you like the look of more? [03:23] Kubuntu [03:23] so that? [03:23] then go with that ;) [03:23] 'kay [03:23] gee tanks === MTeck is now known as MTecknology === Hurtz_ is now known as Hurtz [05:54] bug #307684 could someone please set this bug to 'wishlist', thank you [05:54] Launchpad bug 307684 in transmission "Transmission should not verify all data when restarted after forced exit by logout" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/307684 [05:56] duanedesign: done. [05:56] thank you [06:48] Bug #311415 I think this bug should probabally be set to 'wishlist' [06:48] Launchpad bug 311415 in kubuntu-meta "Add the droid fonts and make it the default for Kubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/311415 === |Ryan52 is now known as Ryan52 [07:56] a bug concerning a broken link on https://help.ubuntu.com should be attached to? [07:56] ubuntu-website, i think [07:57] i think you are right. i did one awhile back and couldnt remember it. [07:57] thank you [08:15] you [08:15] I think Bug #311747 should be set to 'wishlist', thank you [08:15] Launchpad bug 311747 in ubuntu "canonical priority should be system (gnome) performance" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/311747 [08:16] kernel.org's priority maybe ought to be up there as well... [08:28] that sounds like it should get lost in the murky depths of brainstorm [08:28] * Hobbsee smacks it with a stick [08:30] Hobbsee: thank you [08:30] np [08:32] I think Bug #311606 should be set to 'wishlist' thank you [08:32] Launchpad bug 311606 in ubuntu "Wish: Multilingual password option" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/311606 [08:34] marked [08:35] thank you again === asac_ is now known as asac === LucidFox is now known as LucidFox_away === LucidFox_away is now known as LucidFox [14:49] <_ismael_> bonjour [14:49] <_ismael_> hi [15:55] howdy. [15:56] Hi skorasaurus [15:57] how do I create an upstream task ? I was reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Marking%20a%20Bug%20as%20Requiring%20Forwarding but it does not say how. [15:57] i suggest that it should say how, or at least, link to a page that it should. [15:57] link to a page that describes how* [15:59] skorasaurus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Watches explains how to set a bug watch [16:00] nhandler, aha. [16:00] Feel free to edit the wiki page to make it more clear [16:00] I'm confused then, what's the difference between creating an upstream task and setting a bug watch ? [16:01] (they seem like the same thing, or no ?) [16:01] nhandler, i'll edit the page. [16:02] They are pretty much the same thing. An upstream task just says that it affects an upstream project. A bug watch takes it one step further and actually links to an upstream bug report [16:03] k. thanks for the info. [16:03] I'll add that to the page too. [16:04] * skorasaurus is starting to triage bugs and is forwarding one upstream [16:05] skorasaurus: Keep in mind, many people will sometimes use the two terms interchangeably [16:06] k. thanks. [17:09] Here's an interesting bug... bug 311759 [17:09] Launchpad bug 311759 in ubuntu "booting failure with multiboot 8.10 live cd`s" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/311759 === geser_ is now known as geser [18:45] Hobbsee: ping === |Ryan52 is now known as Ryan52 [19:45] Hi. [19:48] ubottu: please kick emma or something... [19:48] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [20:03] i just triaged one of my first bugs, anyone mind to see if I did it right ? [20:06] what is number of that bug? [20:09] oh sorry. [20:09] https://bugs.launchpad.net/brasero/+bug/311880 [20:09] Ubuntu bug 311880 in brasero "Brasero reports ISO standard as having gender. [typo]" [Undecided,Confirmed] [20:14] skorasaurus, good work. I marked it triaged. Thanks for the help [20:17] once I do my part, do I post in here that it needs to be marked triaged ? [20:17] (because it's marked confirmed, right ?) [20:23] skorasaurus, yes, it was marked confirmed. Only bug-control can mark it triaged [20:23] k. [20:23] once it has been confirmed, and there is nothing else to be done by bugsquad/control, we mark it traiged [20:23] thanks hggdh [20:24] since you did it all... THANKS [20:24] hello: i've got a strange problem. i installed a fresh ubuntu on a pc. i tried to install the updates on the system but it tells me, that it cannot reach the update servers. sources.list fits and i don't know what to do else. on this pc i can reach the update-servers [20:25] i already tried the main server, the german server an the switzerland server for updates [20:25] i also get very much md5 hashsum mismatches for no reason [20:26] grindhold, you will probably get more help on #ubuntu -- this channel is not for user support [20:26] but [20:26] you *do* have a network connection, right? [20:27] hello [20:27] yes. ubuntu already installed about 50 packages :D [20:27] err.. updates [20:27] [8.10] switching of users - fails on all boxes I have access too. Either epically (it doesnt work at all, or crashes machine with nvidia driver) or partially (it works at random, on intell gfx) [20:27] grindhold, did you manually change the sources.list? and what version of Ubuntu? [20:28] report this agains what package? Im testing on gnome [20:28] intrepid. i changed sources.list with the graphical interface [20:28] LimCore, fast-user-switch-applet [20:28] thanks hggdh [20:29] grindhold, can you show your sources.list in a pastebin? [20:29] roger [20:30] how to get a bug to have higher fixme priority> [20:33] LimCore, you can raise the importance (but this will not mean that it will be worked now). You can also esplain in the bug *why* it should be looked at now [20:33] s/esplain/explain/ [20:37] this here is the sources.list http://pastebin.com/d4503b875 [20:44] well it is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fast-user-switch-applet/+bug/311978 anyway [20:44] Ubuntu bug 311978 in fast-user-switch-applet "epic or partiall fail of user switching: crash (nvidia) or works only each 2nd or 3rd time (intell gfx) " [Undecided,New] [20:53] short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/openoffice/program/libsvgfilter680li.so') [20:53] what does that mean [20:53] i just wanted to fix broken packages [20:53] and get this error oO [20:54] grindhold: pastebin or something the full error? [20:59] damnit... closed the window.. i am trying to reproduce the error [20:59] here : [20:59] http://pastebin.com/d23d1514 [21:02] grindhold, it looks like your sources.list is kosher [21:03] thx hggdh, i think that too [21:05] grindhold, how are you on disk space? [21:08] hggdh: this pc has about 960 GB free space :D [21:12] sooo. i deleted these packages manually from /var/cache/apt/archives, restarted and tried to reinstall them.. now i get these: http://rafb.net/p/9z1UC782.html [21:13] i am about to milk mice -.- [21:16] grindhold, let's get back to disk space: did you install under one single filesystem? [21:17] i have a swap with the size of 2 GiB on a 500 GB disk. the rest ist ext3 and the ubuntu is running on it [21:18] i have a second disk fully formatted in ext3, mounted under /media/files [21:20] ok, so all of Ubuntu is under / [21:20] roger [21:20] yes.. the 498 GiB partition is mounted under / [21:21] bug 130813 looks similar [21:21] Launchpad bug 130813 in apt-mirror "Hash Sum mismatch" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130813 [21:23] grindhold: have you already tried archive.ubuntu.com? [21:23] joumetal, good idea [21:23] yes i tried, joumetal. that's the Ubuntu Main Server, aight? [21:25] yes. does it give same error? (after apt-get update) [21:25] grindhold, yes. did you put *all* sources.list under it? [21:26] how do you mean that? hggdh [21:27] all sources in sources.list were using archive.ubuntu.com, correct? [21:28] i have to look at sources.list again.. just a moment [21:31] hggdh: everything runs under archive.ubuntu.com except 2 lines with "archive.canonical.com" [21:31] it should be allright, no? [21:31] it should, but just in case, comment out the archive.canonical.com [21:31] and try again [21:32] * hggdh does not believe in witches, but that they exist, they do [21:35] i commented it out. now i have a new prob maybe this makes things clearer: i get this error: "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)" while trying to get the new repository indexes [21:37] yay [21:38] it's so confuscating :D [21:40] keep in mind that transparent proxies often do nefarious things. check with your isp. [21:42] but the source is NOT offline and from another pc with the same isp in the same household i reach the packages :D [21:47] grindhold: is that bzip2 error reproducible across several hours? [21:47] it is ocurring at all servers [21:47] now i tried the "find best server"-feature [21:47] i get the same error [21:48] crimsun: i do not think, that the sources are down.. its nearly impossible, that so many are down. and i reach them with another pc in the same network. thats the riddiculous thing [21:49] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=756864 gives some suggestions. like aptitude update and links to another thread too. [21:49] grindhold: i doubt it would be the repositories' issue [21:49] grindhold: i suspect either a medium error (wireless or wired ethernet?) or a driver error [21:55] grindhold: i.e., which driver are you using? [21:58] driver for ethernet? [21:59] grindhold: whichever driver for whichever hardware over which the data flow [22:00] ehrmm.. how am i going to find that out? [22:00] i think i will not do that with ifconfig [22:01] grindhold: lspci -v and lsmod [22:04] lsmod http://pastebin.com/d3aac2f9c lspci http://pastebin.com/d2813b405 [22:05] grindhold: is the r8169 driver generating any errors that you can see via dmesg? [22:06] i can see none.. i searched with dmesg | grep r8169 [22:07] i get this > http://pastebin.com/d1ef986b1 [22:08] grindhold: ok. how comfortable are you reading network traces? (tcpdump/tshark output) [22:08] (or wireshark if you prefer a gui) [22:09] i would use wireshark if i were able to download it. i may try. i know the main protocols, but i am not really able to interpret the hexdump [22:12] ok, let's go another level higher. anything suspicious in /var/lib/apt/lists/ ? [22:14] define "suspicious". there are files that begin with the names of servers i tried yet. the mainserver, the german mainserver, and intergenia.ubuntu.de further there are the canonical archives, a lock file, and a folder with the name partial. i can not see anything that shouldn|t be there [22:17] grindhold: ok, this may sound stupid, but does bunzip2 actually work properly? can you confirm with a silly text file? [22:18] this textfile is supposed to be saved als .bz2, aight? [22:21] okay.. bunzip2 yourmum.bz2 --> bunzip2: yourmum.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. [22:21] i think it works right [22:25] grindhold: sorry, you should bzip2 a text file, then bunzip2 it [22:25] ahrgs kay :) [22:26] yes it works [22:26] oh, whew [22:26] i the outputfile is the same as the input [22:26] can you try backing up /var/lib/apt/lists/*, then removing it and rerunning the aptitude update ? [22:27] i can try.. atm the system is wasted anyway :D [22:27] just wait a moment [22:29] i'm actually headed out for dinner, but i will check back in ~3 hours. hopefully you'll have chased it down. =) [22:29] i hope too [22:29] thx [23:24] grindhold, how are things going? [23:26] hggdh: just reinstalling the whole system [23:26] i cant find anything else.. its riddiculous [23:37] MTecknology: contentless pong?