[00:55] <nickrud> !hostname
[00:55] <nickrud> apparently the Networking dialog is gone, is there a replacement anywhere I just don't see?
[01:46] <genii> bazhang: Heh, you're awake :)
[01:46] <bazhang> genii, hiya :)
[02:10] <bazhang> * [compuhacker] (n=CompuHac@user-69-1-35-217.knology.net): Jon Doezal
[02:10] <bazhang> seems to be trolling
[02:26] <bazhang> compuhacker, you know why you were banned?
[02:26] <bazhang> !coc | compuhacker read this
[02:27] <bazhang> !guidelines | compuhacker 
[02:27] <compuhacker> I request an unban from #ubuntu incase I actually need help someday. I'm getting a new computer two days from now and I'm actually considering installing Ubuntu. I apologize for trolling, and I honestly hope that you will reach into your heart.
[02:27] <bazhang> compuhacker, you know why you were banned?
[02:27] <compuhacker> Yes. I do.
[02:27] <compuhacker> I was quite literally trolling.
[02:28] <bazhang> compuhacker, and you were given more than sufficient warning beforehand
[02:28] <compuhacker> I know that.
[02:28] <bazhang> generally bans last a day or two compuhacker 
[02:29] <bazhang> compuhacker, read the linked documents above please
[02:29] <compuhacker> I am reading them.
[02:30] <bazhang> compuhacker, how about coming back in a day and then we can see about unbanning you.
[02:30] <bazhang> ie 24 hrs
[02:31] <compuhacker> I get my new computer on Monday, it will likely be assembled by the next day. I'm requesting an unban immediately.
[02:31] <bazhang> compuhacker, not going to happen.
[02:31] <nickrud> compuhacker, if you do the math, you'll be back in on monday
[02:32] <compuhacker> That's ok then. Just don't make this permanent and I'm happy.
[02:32] <bazhang> compuhacker, you were admittedly trolling and given ample warning to take it to offtopic channel
[02:32] <compuhacker> That is completely true.
[02:32] <bazhang> compuhacker, usually warnings *and* a kick is enough to get people's attention
[02:33] <bazhang> compuhacker, so come back in a day and we'll see about unbanning you
[02:33] <compuhacker> If I come in there and troll again you can ban me forever. But for right now, I'd like you to unban me, and I'm going to leave the channel. There's absolutely nothing I can do or say to prevent you from leaving the ban for 24 - 48 hours, but I'd like the unban now, and I'm going to leave.
[02:33] <compuhacker> I'm probably not going to come back.
[02:34] <bazhang> that doesnt really make sense.
[02:34] <compuhacker> Yeah. Not because I'm angry about you banning me, but I won't have much of a reason.
[02:34] <compuhacker> It doesn't make sense to anyone but me.
[02:34] <compuhacker> Exactly how I like it ;)
[02:34] <compuhacker> See ya in 72 hours. Maybe.
[02:35] <compuhacker> I'm waiting for a response, then I'll leave.
[02:36] <nickrud> compuhacker, 24hrs, it's a firm policy learned from sad experience
[02:36] <bazhang> compuhacker, response to what? immediate unbanning?
[02:36] <compuhacker> No. Resonate some understanding. I'm asking you to unban me, so I can leave. Makes sense right? Nope. You don't even have to.
[02:37] <bazhang> compuhacker, you have left the channel already.
[02:37] <compuhacker> I know. You banned me ;)
[02:37] <bazhang> with good reason
[02:37] <compuhacker> Extremely good reason. You were right to ban me.
[02:37] <compuhacker> But I don't want to be banned :/
[02:38] <bazhang> compuhacker, so staying in here arguing about it is not going to help get the ban lifted any sooner
[02:38] <compuhacker> Ok then. 24 hours, automatic unbanning? Good. That's all I need.
[02:38] <compuhacker> Thanks peeps.
[02:38] <bazhang> did I say automatic? :/
[02:39] <nickrud> well, implied cuz normal :)
[02:39] <bazhang> true :)
[02:39] <nickrud> "usually", etc 
[02:43] <nickrud> dang lotta bans there
[02:45] <bazhang> mostly one or two guys
[02:45] <bazhang> sken and one other guy
[02:47] <nickrud> heh. sounds like they should have stayed banned, that many for 2 people
[02:48] <bazhang> well sken is supposedly super secure banned, but he was in just yesterday under eleos2 nickname
[02:49] <bazhang> he ban evaded 25+ times so far
[02:49] <nickrud> from what I've learned by osmosis, there is no really effective ban
[02:49] <bazhang> true
[02:49] <bazhang> like that sp0rtily guy in -ot
[02:50] <nickrud> yeah, I saw you stalking him :)
[02:50] <bazhang> really creepy stalker fellow
[02:50] <bazhang> heh
[02:50] <bazhang> yes-man-1 is his latest incarnation
[02:51] <nickrud> too bad gpg is so cumbersome
[02:52] <bazhang> for email?
[02:54] <nickrud> it can be used for other idenfication, irrc. Or maybe openid, or some other technique. Anything that identifies someone. I wouldn't care if the irc bot knew, just that 'Yes, this guy is who he says he is;
[02:54] <nickrud> s/bot/server/
[02:54] <bazhang> I see what you are saying
[02:55] <nickrud> but then I don't worry about anonymity myself, although I understand others do
[03:45] <Paddy_EIRE> hey could someone kick the sectarian troll from #ubuntu-offtopic please.. his name is Set_, 
[03:48] <Pici> Paddy_EIRE: Watching
[03:48] <Paddy_EIRE> cheers
[03:48] <Paddy_EIRE> I am going for some tea.. best way :)
[07:45] <Flannel> mmmm.  I make sense most of the time, honest.
[07:45] <tritium> :)
[07:51] <tritium> What a creepy nick
[07:53] <tritium> Bed time.  Good night, Flannel.
[07:53] <Flannel> night tritium
[08:00] <Flannel> Hmmm
[08:00] <Flannel> 23:59 <CntryTrousrTrout> anyways, I'm taking off, you spend ur whole life in this irc channel because thats all u have. I'm sorry ops power has taken to ur brain.
[08:00] <Flannel> 23:59 <CntryTrousrTrout> do me a favor ban me.
[08:00] <Flannel> I'm contemplating it.
[08:36] <nickrud> Flannel, you've been through too many wash cycles, you're soft :)
[08:37] <Flannel> Perhaps.  But I use colorsafe bleach, so I'm not faded.
[08:42] <nickrud> Flannel, you going to be at scale?
[08:58] <Flannel> nickrud: Yep!
[08:58] <Flannel> We've got a booth there
[08:59]  * Flannel needs to put that on ConferenceAppearances, and get a conference pack too.
[09:11] <nickrud> Flannel, if you need some booth time, I work about a mile from there
[09:11] <Flannel> some booth time?
[09:12] <nickrud> keep a seat hot, I'm sure some of you will want to sit in on some stuff
[09:13] <nickrud> at the least, I'm gonna show so I can get my key signed by a human beign
[09:13] <Flannel> Ah.  We don't sit, actually.  Quite a lively booth.  I'll keep that in mind though.  Should know when we're low on people (hopefully anyway) before the weekend actually starts
[09:14] <Flannel> http://www.flickr.com/photos/nathanhaines/2353642188/in/set-72157604204639748/ that was our booth last time, before the demo computers rolled in
[09:15] <nickrud> cramped :)
[09:16] <Flannel> yeah, well, the booths are small.  Luckily we were on a corner, so the demo computers actually face out (towards the left), so the people don't stand inside the booth.  It actually works really well.  We only go 'into' the horseshoe to grab CDs/swag/etc to give to people.  Its actually quite roomy ;)
[09:17] <nickrud> the key to these things is to expand your space with bodies out front. Amazing how much real estate people can claim. I worked with a traveling chef show once, that was one of our biggest problems
[09:18] <Flannel> yeah, we'd stand infront (or over on the side, near the demo computers) and use a lot of room talking to people.  Turned out really well, except for trying to keep up with the demand for CDs.  Hopefully we'll have that fixed this year.
[09:18] <nickrud> crappy job, except for the time we were comped the penthouse at the new york hilton cuz they overbooked suites :)
[09:21] <Flannel> I certainly wouldn't be able to do it for a living.  But its an amusing foray into that stuff a few times a year
[09:22] <nickrud> glad handing is not my forte either
[10:37] <Mez> scary, I'm actually replying to mailing list posts now!
[10:37] <Mez> damn mutt for being good at letting me manage my email!
[10:59] <Stormx2> Don't know if it's relevent, but there's a bot in #ubuntu called "PROBCLONE" that seems to be responding to stuff prefixed with !, like ubottu normally does.
[11:00] <Stormx2> CaptainMorgan> !hcl | md22
 Sorry, i don't know about hcl.
[11:00] <Stormx2> etc.
[11:00] <Stormx2> Anyway, ta ra.
[11:03] <elkeee> testbottu?
[11:03] <gnomefreak> i ighly doubt its one of oours
[11:03] <gnomefreak> highly even
[11:07] <elkeee> considering its mibbit, yeah
[11:12] <Gnea> Hi.
[11:12] <Stormx2> Listen guys, could someone send Gnea a PM saying that he shouldn't use !ops unless there's an immediate problem. 
[11:12] <Stormx2> He won't listen to me.
[11:12] <Gnea> Don't bother.
[11:12] <Stormx2> (he's got me on ignore too, or so he claims)
[11:13] <Stormx2> I'm sick of new users not listening to advice unless it's coming from someone with a @ before their name.
[11:14]  * Gnea sighs
[11:14] <Stormx2> And also perhaps that he might have a little more respect than to tell me to "shut it" (twice!) when I politely and humbly asked that he should leave a message in -ops rather than using !ops
[11:15] <Gnea> so, does anyone else have a problem with the way I handled that? I suppose I could have come here first.
[11:16] <gnomefreak> Gnea: it was fine, come to us if you are not sure if its a bot, but you knew it was
[11:16] <Gnea> gnomefreak: that's cool
[11:16] <Stormx2> Gnea, !ops is usually called when someone is spamming, or being super insulting, or there's some problem that needs addressing right there and then. I'm just going on past experience, there isn't some code for when you should/shouldn't use it.
[11:16] <elkeee> Stormx2, how about you let us ops speak for ourselves.
[11:17] <Gnea> Stormx2: why don't you go and yell at a wall? 
[11:17] <Gnea> just what we need, a spaz
[11:17] <elkeee> Gnea, please dont start like that
[11:17] <Stormx2> ;_;
[11:17] <Gnea> elkeee: k
[11:18] <Stormx2> This is ridiculous. I've seen people get told off before for using !ops for minor things. I'm only going by what I know here. I was polite and curtious throughout. Don't be a jerk, Gnea.
[11:18] <Gnea> Stormx2: sometimes, not all situations can be covered by a blanket solution.
[11:18] <elkeee> Stormx2, thanks for trying to help, but i think it's time to drop this.
[11:18] <Stormx2> elkeee, yeah, okay.
[11:19] <Gnea> Stormx2: Whatever dude, you're being a jerk by going off on me. I already apoloized in the channel. Apparantly, you missed it.
[11:19] <Gnea> *apologized
[11:19] <Stormx2> Apparently I did, or did you mean the "sorry, but you're wrong" (paraphrased) "apology"?
[11:19] <elkeee> both of you, enough.
[11:19] <Gnea> Stormx2: enough.
[11:19] <Stormx2> Gnea, enough.
[11:20] <Gnea> elkeee: thanks, i'll be updating my /ignore list now
[11:20] <Gnea> done.
[11:20] <Stormx2> Wouldn't be the first time I heard that one.
[11:20] <Stormx2> *sigh*
[11:21] <Stormx2> You know, you coulda said "you were right but you didn't have to be so rude about it" to him.
[11:21] <jpds> Hi-lighty.
[11:21] <elkeee> i dont have that highlighting on this. it'd be pointless ;)
[11:22] <elkeee> well, im pretty sure i was fair to both. i mean, they're both still in channels ;)
[11:22] <jpds> I just woke up, no idea what's going on.
[11:23] <elkeee> storm trying to speak for ops, gnea getting pissy at him trying to speak for ops
[11:23] <jpds> Oh.
[11:23] <elkeee> battle of the wannabes
[11:28]  * gnomefreak laughing at "why dont you go yell at a wall" sorry lack of work, and brain isnt working
[11:28] <gnomefreak> i need to fine a good IMAP email other than gmail
[11:28] <gnomefreak> s/fine/find
[11:29] <jpds> Set up a dovecot server :p
[11:29] <Slart> hello.. can someone check out 'Sid' in the #ubuntu channel.. smells like a bot.. reacts to the command "!bash | whatever" with "| isn't a number".. has happened several times now
[11:30] <ardchoille> looks like an annoyance bot in #ubuntu: nick sid
[11:31] <ardchoille> thank you jpds :)
[11:31] <jpds> Are there no more mutes on Freenode?
[11:37] <Gnea> I see that Stormx2 is very upset about things.  But I don't like the way that he goes off and complains the way that he did.
[11:39] <Gnea> All I saw was someone who woke up on the wrong side of the bed get all bent out of shape when I used the !ops command
[11:39] <Gnea> I'm sorry, but how often do rogue bots enter the channel like that?
[11:40] <Gnea> Well, next time it happens, I'll just come here instead of using it
[11:40] <Gnea> But I didn't like the way that he jumped on me about that.
[11:40] <Gnea> totall out of line
[11:40] <Gnea> *totally
[11:41] <sfer21> Gnea: are you talking about this...?
[11:41] <sfer21> (22:02:02) Gnea: Stormx2: then shut it.
[11:42] <Gnea> no, this: 05:01 < Stormx2> Gnea, it isn't really important enough to warrant !ops >.<
[11:42] <sfer21> but jump on you?
[11:43] <Gnea> by that point in time, I'd already used the !ops
[11:44] <sfer21> but didn't you jump on Stormx2?
[11:44] <Gnea> nah, I just told him to shut it. I probably should have just kept my mouth shut.
[11:45] <Gnea> if he wanted to have a conversation with me about it, why didn't he take it to pm?
[11:45] <Gnea> now, the damage is done. i won't apologize until he apoloizes.
[11:46] <Gnea> and this keyboard has issues... *apologizes
[11:46] <Gnea> and he's still going off about it in #ubuntu
[11:47] <Gnea> when he should really just step away from the keyboard and take a chillpill... maybe drink some coffee
[11:47] <elkeee> how about we all drop this?
[11:47] <elkeee> Gnea, are you gaining anything by continuing this?
[11:48] <Gnea> continuing?
[11:48] <Gnea> you want me to pm him and apologize? I'd do that if he wasn't so fraking hostile.
[11:49] <bazhang> best to just let it drop imo
[11:49] <Gnea> I don't have a problem with that.
[11:50] <Gnea> What I do have a problem with, is his continuing it in the channel and causing more disruptions.
[11:50] <bazhang> I think I got up on the wrong side of the bed today.
[11:50] <Gnea> sorry :(
[11:50] <elkeee> Gnea, we are trying to deal with him. it's harder when we have to deal with you in here at the same time
[11:51] <bazhang> Gnea, nothing to do with you :)
[11:51] <sfer21> Gnea: he's not complaining anymore, from what I can see.
[11:51] <Gnea> elkeee: you'd rather I just ignore the whole issue and let it get worse?
[11:51] <bazhang> sfer21, how may we help you
[11:52] <elkeee> he said he has had to go now anyway
[11:52] <bazhang> Gnea, go brew some coffee or something, that usually works for me :)
[11:52] <sfer21> Stormx2 has left, though, hasn't he?
[11:53] <Gnea> bazhang: indeed :)
[11:53] <bazhang> too many bots these last few days (CM bot etc)
[11:57] <Gnea> mmm, I made tea instead 
[11:57] <Gnea> and, sent an apology to Stormx2
[11:58] <elkeee> Gnea, unless you want to be like him and try speak for us?
[11:58] <Gnea> elkeee: that's a joke, right?
[12:02] <Gnea> elkeee: I know when to stop myself, it'd be nice if other people did as well. Sadly, the truth of the matter is is that it isn't possible all the time. I'm sorry if I was a bother.
[12:08] <elkeee> Gnea, well, no.
[12:08] <elkeee> my parents router sucks bad and i have 3 minute lag at the moment
[12:08] <elkeee> and i was trying to talk to storm
[12:08] <elkeee> and instead i ended up in here dealing with you
[12:08] <elkeee> and all you can say is that we're not doing enough
[12:08] <Gnea> I said what?
[12:11] <elkeee> Gnea, i didnt notice him continue, since you came back in here and started ranting. i was trying to keep up with 3 minute floods of #ubuntu
[12:13] <Gnea> elkeee: he was causing strife in #ubuntu, and he was sending me !language through the bot. btw, what am I a 'wannabe' of?
[12:13] <Gnea> I came back in here to shed light on that problem again. I thought that it was solved. I was obviously wrong.
[12:17] <Gnea> elkeee: I tend to look at ubuntu users/helpers/ops and see something of a chain-of-command kind of thing there. I try to respect that. If you feel that I've somehow disrespected that and am a 'wannabe op', please, just let me know. Otherwise, I'll just not use !ops again for matters of a lame bot coming into the channel. 
[12:22] <elkeee> i was trying to watch #ubuntu, and trying to pm him with minutes of lag. you also assumed we were doing nothing, it seems. meanwhile this was 40 minutes ago, and i have to get some sleep in the next 8 hours before i head off on a 8hr drive. i'd like to get home alive.
[12:22] <elkeee> you were already told it was ok. the wannabe comment was more about him. it was an off-the-cuff comment. the ops reserve the right to be human and have some fun/humor
[12:22] <Gnea> I never assumed anything of the sort.
[12:22] <elkeee> its really hard to remain human/motivated when people read the logs and pick on every word we say
[12:22] <elkeee> really really hard
[12:23] <Gnea> yes, please, get some rest
[12:23] <Gnea> that's why I try to be careful about what I say in logged channels.
[12:24] <Gnea> So, have a good trip and be safe :)
[12:24]  * Gnea has been used to 17hour drives. bleh. 8hours would be nice.
[12:30] <elkeee> it shouldnt be too bad, doesnt look like a 30'C day, thankfully
[12:30] <elkeee> sun should be on passenger side this time anyway
[12:36] <bazhang> Gnea, if that is all could you please /part this channel?
[12:36] <Gnea> bazhang: sure.
[12:36] <bazhang> thanks
[12:43] <elkeee> if you need an indication of how crap the wifi on my parents router is... it barely keeps irc alive, and ... "Firefox can't find the server at www.google.com."
[12:43] <elkeee> thankfully i drive home tomorrow
[12:43] <bazhang> yeowch
[12:44] <bazhang> the joys of home internet service
 BAZHANG, THE MIC = ANALOG AND THE OUTPUT = SPDIF I THINK THATS THE PROB :-)  
[14:05] <bazhang> * [culb] (i=culb@cpe-72-185-115-170.tampabay.res.rr.com): culb very odd
[14:06] <bazhang> he or it repeated exactly what  ward1983 said with the added smiley, but in all caps
[15:20] <Nafallo> !wfm
[16:06] <relik77080> so now what?
 irc nazis
[16:06] <Tm_T> erm?
[16:07] <relik77080> yea?
[16:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Just because you were asked not to repeat so often
[16:07] <relik77080> 3 questions in 10 min
[16:07] <relik77080> yea im such a spammer
[16:08] <relik77080> good one
[16:08] <Tm_T> relik77080: and you belive that repeating does good?
[16:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Does NOT mean you can act like that in this channel
[16:08] <relik77080> i belive so yes
[16:08] <relik77080> is it possible that people missed my message?
[16:08] <Tm_T> relik77080: also, I wonder if you really believe that calling people being nazis is a good thing at all
[16:08] <relik77080> do i have to rephrase every time?
[16:08] <relik77080> actually i called them irc nazis
[16:09] <Tm_T> relik77080: not any different
[16:09] <relik77080> thats a not a political statement really is it?
[16:09] <Jack_Sparrow> relik77080, You dont have to rephrase but every couple minutes is fine, just because it is off the screen does not mean repost it
[16:09] <Tm_T> relik77080: that's not an excuse for any bad behaviour
[16:09] <relik77080> ok i apologize
[16:09] <relik77080> i am sorry
[16:09] <relik77080> just frustrated
[16:09] <Jack_Sparrow> relik77080, ban will be lifed in 24 hours
[16:09] <Tm_T> relik77080: and no, you should NEVER use "nazi" slightly
[16:10] <relik77080> how about fascist?
[16:10] <Tm_T> relik77080: that either
[16:10] <Tm_T> relik77080: calling others by those names hurts my soul
[16:10] <relik77080> :) ok ok
[16:11] <Tm_T> no, I'm not kidding
[16:11] <relik77080> i've searched for ages - could u just tell me if there is a bug in pulseaudio that causes system sounds to not work?
[16:12] <Tm_T> hmm, I almost confessed, hrrrr
[16:12] <Jack_Sparrow> This is NOT a support channel
[16:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !idle
[16:13] <relik77080> good job - what a bunch of despots 
[16:19] <Tm_T> Jack_Sparrow: I think its more than 24 hours now?
[16:24] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[16:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Tm_T, Can you tag it on bantracker for me..  trying to eat breakfast
[16:27] <Jack_Sparrow> @login
[16:27] <Jack_Sparrow> @btlogin
[16:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Tm_T, I took care of the tracker
[16:29] <Tm_T> thanks
[16:29]  * Tm_T is quite busy
[16:32] <bazhang> very unsafe for work links in -ot
[16:34] <bazhang> really what does it take to clean up that channel? posting near-nude pics atm
[16:36] <Jack_Sparrow> senseless to send people in there for anything ubuntu related.
[16:36] <bazhang> yep
[16:36] <bazhang> its a total cesspool
[16:38] <bazhang> * [nbeebo_] (n=nbeebo@217-210-198-227-no71.tbcn.telia.com): rikard enedahl  & * [zaapiel] (n=zaapiel@74-128-211-124.dhcp.insightbb.com): Zaapiel
[16:41] <jussi01> looks ok the last few mins...
[17:04] <beniwtv> err... Hi all... I was joining #ubuntu and it said my IP was greylisted as my ISP was sending spam. Now, I use an ISP in Spain called Iberbanda, which is really small on user base, and I don't think it's quite correct. Maybe an IP range from Telefonica was blacklisted? (AFAIK, Iberbanda uses them)
[17:12] <jussi01> @btlogin
[17:17] <jussi01> beniwtv: Id rather leave this issue to one of the ops who set it, LjL or Pici. hopefully they are around soon. 
[17:26] <beniwtv> jussi01: ok, thanks
[18:01] <nickrud> any of the bot watchers around? seems excessively active to my little brain
[18:01] <nickrud> floodbot4 etc
[18:01] <jussi01> nickrud: me also. not sure how to deal with them tbh.
[18:02] <nickrud> yeah, us small brained ones can only watch :)
[18:02] <jussi01> Ill try restarting floodbot 4
[18:03] <nickrud> in the past only one bot at a time was normally active; you might try them all 
[18:03] <jussi01> lets just see if it helps
[18:04] <nickrud> three kicked in 
[18:04] <jussi01> yeah
[18:04] <nickrud> now none, loverly
[18:05] <nickrud> argh, look at the right user list rudnick <-- small brained
[18:05] <jussi01> hehehehe
[18:06] <jussi01> looking ok for now, lets hope...
[18:07]  * nickrud crosses fingers
[18:26] <bazhang> :/
[18:27] <stdin> emma seems to have a dodgy connection
[18:29] <bazhang> oh in -irc
[18:30] <stdin> in #ubuntu #kubuntu -irc -devel -motu ...
[18:30] <jussi01> stdin: she does every couple of months
[18:30] <bazhang> heh not so noticeable in #ubuntu
[18:30] <jussi01> just forward her to ##fix_your_connection
[18:31]  * stdin waits 5 mins for the next disconnect
[20:55] <elkeee> whee, time to go home
[20:56] <elkeee> see you in, like, 9 hours
[21:24]  * jussi01 waves to everyone. Im looking for a volunteer! anyone with a little spare time on their hands?
[21:26] <jussi01> What Im hoping for is for someone to go through the factoids a bit and check they are up to date. including the links :)
[21:28] <jussi01> Particulary the kubuntu ones - making sure they are KDE4'ised if need be.
[21:32] <PriceChild> jussi01: can we fix the english too? !ubotu's "favorite" for example.
[21:32] <jussi01> PriceChild: be my guest ;)
[21:45] <Pici> That is english!
[21:46] <jussi01> Pici: no, english.... "favourite" :D
[21:46] <Pici> humbug
[21:47] <jussi01> same with "Colour"
[22:20]  * jussi01 waves to nalioth
[22:20] <nalioth> hi
[22:21] <Flannel> Morning all.  Quite an eventful night.
[22:28] <jussi01> Got a quick question for you all, does anyone have any issues with me mentioning the company that provides ubottu's hosting in the owner factoid?
[22:29] <Flannel> !owner
[22:29] <Tm_T> jussi01: no problems
[22:29] <Flannel> "This bot is owned by foo, hosted by bar" etc?
[22:29] <jussi01> itd go something like: This bot is owned by jussi01 and hosted at Red Innovation, a proudly open source friendly company. - Questions about ubottu should be asked in #ubuntu-bots
[22:30] <Flannel> +1 on theory, but how does that work with the clones?  (not that its terribly important)
[22:31] <stdin> one would expect the owners of the bots to edit !owner
[22:32] <Pici> I think flannel is referring to the syncing of the factoids.
[22:32] <stdin> maybe change "This bot" to "ubottu"
[22:32] <Flannel> since when they sync, it'll just get overwritten.  Again, not the end of the world
[22:32] <stdin> or just put "ubottu is hosted on ..."
[22:32] <jussi01> ubot3: owner
[22:32] <ubot3> This bot is owned by jussi01 - Questions about ubottu should be asked in #ubuntu-bots
[22:33] <jussi01> heh
[22:33] <Flannel> It's obviously a non-issue ^
[22:35] <stdin> or maybe we should just use the wiki more :)
[22:36] <nalioth> it can get confusing
[22:37] <nalioth> if you're gonna make a factoid, it'd need to reflect all the bots
[22:37] <Pici> stdin: +1
[22:38] <jussi01> nalioth: suggestions?
[22:39] <jpds> Make !owner point at the wiki page.
[22:39] <nalioth> there ya go
[23:39] <jpds> Sorted.
[23:39] <Pici> Bubble or Quick?
[23:40] <jpds> Pardon?
[23:41] <Pici> Nevermind
[23:41] <Pici> Those are sorting algorithms