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terminhellFresh install of xubuntu, freshly updated, activated the restricted Broadcom drivers and things still not working. Ironicly it seems like the wireless device is ON via the LED....00:01
sinboxis this inbuil or pcmcia card?00:20
sinboxoh00:20
sinboxhe gone00:20
linuxman410how can you check amount of memory in computer in xubuntu00:36
linuxman410is there something i can type in terminal and get it00:38
knomelinuxman410, 'free' / 'free -m' (as megabytes)00:40
linuxman410thanks00:40
knomemaybe try learning google?00:40
knomenot an offense, but you get quicker answers :)00:40
linuxman410ok00:41
linuxman410i do not mind waiting xubuntu and ubuntu has best support i ever seen00:41
knomeyeah well, you could maybe part of that support ;)00:42
knome+be00:43
* sinbox just asked google what a "debug build" is00:43
knomei want pizza00:48
owen1__my Gforce card is not being used. how to tell ubuntu to start using it?01:01
knomeowen1__, if you have an integrated card, maybe disable it first from the bios01:02
owen1__knome: i don't know what integrated card means. mine is: GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x01:03
sinbox!pizza01:03
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pizza01:03
knomeowen1__, integrated in your motherboard.01:03
sinboxoopss: bad bot01:03
sinbox:)01:03
owen1__knome: does integrated means - 'can't detach from my motherboard' ?01:05
knomeowen1__, yes.01:06
owen1__knome: when i type : grep drivers /var/log/Xorg.0.log   i see: Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nv_drv.so01:06
knomemaybe nv_drv refers to integrated nvidia card.01:06
owen1__knome: when i type: glxgears -info   i see: GL_RENDERER   = Software Rasterizer01:06
sinboxis your cadr on the motherboard or do  you have a card in a PCI/AGP slot owen1__ ?01:07
terminhell1anyone here???01:07
knometerminhell1, nope.01:07
terminhell1dang01:07
terminhell1:p01:07
terminhell1i just installed, updated and trying to get my broadcom working01:08
sinboxis this inbuil or pcmcia card? terminhell101:08
GINZHi01:08
terminhell1it worked under ubuntu, and inbuilt01:08
GINZ I am running Xubuntu, and recently made a blunder in the terminal. I got the error notice "#1290 - The MYSQL server is running with the - - skip-gfrant-tables option01:08
GINZ<GINZ> so it cannot execute this statement01:08
owen1__sinbox: is it the card with the vga and svideo connections?01:08
terminhell1via the restricted b43 driver but now i get nothing01:08
GINZCan anyone tell me how to fix this please?01:09
sinboxdid you use the bw43cutter thingmajig terminhell101:09
terminhell1ya the firmware seems to be installed01:09
owen1__sinbox: i don't know what it's look like..sorry for my ignorance..01:09
* sinbox knows nothing about mySQL GINZ 01:09
sinboxit's ok owen1__ , how many video/monitor output do you have? (asin: in separate places on your computer)01:10
knomeGINZ, maybe 'sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart'01:10
sinboxis your network settings set to roaming terminhell1 ?01:11
GINZAh  thanks i will try that01:11
knomeit should just restart the mysql server01:11
terminhell1i dont see any way of setting it to that01:11
sinboxapplications menu > system > network01:12
terminhell1the weird part is, is the LED light is on for the device...01:12
terminhell1and when i run iwconfig i get info about it01:12
sinboxselct the wireless network and check if the roaming tick box is enabled01:12
sinboxcan you pastebin your iwconfig output?01:12
owen1__sinbox: only 1 vga and 1 svideo (on the some card)01:13
terminhell1and all i can see is just the words Wireless Networks01:13
terminhell1http://pastebin.com/d17f19d5f01:14
owen1__sinbox: (on the same card)01:14
sinboxand your monitor is pluged into that card then owen1__01:17
owen1__sinbox: yes01:18
sinboxthen surely it's working (or am I missing the point here?)01:19
terminhell1its like im missing some network utilities01:20
sinboxhave you tried to switch the roaming on terminhell1 in the network settings window which appears from here:  applications menu > system > network?01:21
owen1__sinbox: i can't play games. even crappy 2d games since everything is slow.01:21
terminhell1i dont have that01:21
GINZKnome, I did  'sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart' It stopped then restarted mysql, then gave line "Checking for corrupt. not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables.01:22
owen1__sinbox: someone told me to type the command  glxgears -info and the result was: GL_RENDERER   = Software Rasterizer01:22
sinboxhmm no idea wht needs to be done for you I'm afraid owen1__01:22
owen1__sinbox: no problem. thanks!01:22
knomeGINZ, what is going on now then?01:22
sinboxyou can also ask in ubuntu owen1__ if no one can help you here01:22
owen1__sinbox: i will.01:22
sinboxwhat don't you have terminhell1 ?01:22
GINZknome I am not sure01:23
terminhell1i dont have "network" in App>syst01:23
knomeGINZ, is it working or not? :P01:23
sinboxhmmm weird, are you on 8.10?01:23
GINZI will check. I am new to this and have to follow a tutorial so it will take me a moment or three01:24
terminhell1ya01:24
terminhell1and updated01:24
knomeGINZ, k01:24
terminhell1whats the command util called? maybe i can find it manually01:24
sinboxtake a look at this maybe terminhell1 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57118801:26
sinboxit's a how-to setup wifi via the cli01:26
terminhell1awesome01:28
sinboxgive it a try01:29
sinboxby the time you come back I might have my laptop backed up and installing 8.0401:29
GINZKnome I am haing trouble... phpmyadmin is not recognising my password01:34
GINZI guess I will have to do the whole password setting process again01:35
knomeGINZ, suppose so.01:35
GINZOK  see you later if i still have trouble  :) Thanks01:35
knomeyeah.01:35
knomei'm going really soon to bed.01:36
knomebut there's other people who can help you.01:36
GINZOK  bye01:36
knomebye.01:36
GINZThat is the trouble with being in NZ01:36
GINZeveryone else is in different time zones01:36
GINZBye01:36
knomehah, the clock is 3.30am here ;)01:37
KillerOrcaSysI lost the ability to play DVDs any troubleshooting help would be appreciated01:38
GINZyikes 2.38pm here01:38
knome!dvd01:38
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:38
KillerOrcaSysknome: I could play them, they won't anymore01:38
knomeKillerOrcaSys, after doing *what*01:39
KillerOrcaSysknome: as far as I can tell, installing a 2nd HDD01:39
knomeKillerOrcaSys, doesn't sound a reason.01:40
knomeKillerOrcaSys, if you launch your dvd player app in terminal, what output do you get?01:40
KillerOrcaSysknome: well other than that I have been doing normal apt updates01:40
KillerOrcaSysknome: I use VLC, not sure how to launch it via terminal01:40
terminhell=/01:40
knomeKillerOrcaSys, just open terminal and run 'vlc'01:41
sinboxI take it the DVD and 2nd HDD are on the secondary IDE, have you set the jumpers properly KillerOrcaSys ?01:41
KillerOrcaSyssinbox: well I can access both drives so I am assuming01:42
KillerOrcaSysknome: should I run it with the DVD in the drive?01:42
knomeKillerOrcaSys, sure, and try to play the dvd01:43
sinboxyeah I guess you'd get a warning at boot time if the jumpers were badly messing it up01:44
KillerOrcaSysknome: ok vlc starts then just sits there01:45
knomeKillerOrcaSys, try to play the dvd01:45
GINZknome I am using http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/recover-mysql-root-password.html01:45
knomeGINZ, yes?01:46
KillerOrcaSysknome: I get this:Unable to open 'dvd:///dev/scd0'01:46
GINZ got to second step, # mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables &, and it says mysql_safe: command not found01:47
knomeGINZ, mysql*D*_safe01:47
GINZwoops, thanks01:47
knomeKillerOrcaSys, a-ha. you have a different dev path now. type 'mount' in another terminal01:48
KillerOrcaSysknome: mount what?01:48
knomeKillerOrcaSys, just 'mount'01:48
knomeKillerOrcaSys, you should see a list of current mounts01:49
KillerOrcaSysknome: yeah I do01:49
knomeKillerOrcaSys, can you paste to pastebin01:49
knome!pastebin01:49
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)01:49
terminhell:(01:50
GINZknome the webpage has output  [1] 598801:50
GINZStarting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql01:50
GINZmysqld_safe[6025]: started01:50
terminhellugh, i guess i should just switch back to ubuntu01:50
knomeGINZ, yeah?01:50
GINZ Mine has different numbers01:50
knomeGINZ, the numbers doesn't matter.01:50
knomeGINZ, they are just process numbers01:51
GINZand after Started has another line01:51
knometerminhell, ?01:51
sinboxstill no luck terminhell I take it01:51
knomeGINZ, which line?01:51
terminhellya, nothinig01:51
sinboxwa it working in ubuntu that wifi?01:51
terminhellits like im missin 1 little thing or something01:51
knometerminhell, nm-applet?01:51
GINZstarting " STOPPING server01:51
terminhellits not getting info from dhcp01:51
sinboxhave you tried giving it a fixed IP within your range available?01:52
knomeGINZ, just try to proceed01:52
knomeGINZ, or then paste the complete output of all the commands to pastebin01:52
terminhelli  have nm-applet01:53
terminhelland its running01:53
terminhellhas been01:53
KillerOrcaSysknome: http://paste.ubuntu.com/94001/01:53
sinboxand your wifi light is still flashing on the laptop?01:53
GINZfrom pid file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid mysqld_safe[7699]:ended"01:53
GINZKnome  what is pastebin?01:53
sinbox!pastebin01:53
knome!pastebin | GINZ01:53
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)01:53
ubottuGINZ: please see above01:53
terminhellya (it doesnt flash, static, always has)01:53
knomeKillerOrcaSys, so if you navigate to /media/disk, does it show the contents of your dvd?01:54
sinboxok, it's weird you can't open your network settings from the menu though01:54
terminhellya nothing there01:54
knometerminhell, can you do a really quick recap: what is not working? wifi?01:55
GINZ!pastebin " STOPPING server  from pid file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid mysqld_safe[7699]:ended"01:55
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:55
terminhellknome: ya, broadcom, LED is active, the antenna is on i just cant get it to connect to anything + i dont have a Applications>System>"Network"01:56
knomeGINZ, go to that URL and paste the *whole* output there01:56
GINZknome did that work?01:56
GINZOh ok01:56
sinboxGINZ,  you have to go to: http://paste.ubuntu.com and then paste on that page01:56
knometerminhell, 'sudo nm-connection-manager' at terminal?01:57
KillerOrcaSysknome: I think /media/disk is my 2nd HDD01:58
knomeKillerOrcaSys, ok.01:58
terminhellcommand not found01:58
knometerminhell, ok: 'sudo nm-connection-editor'01:59
KillerOrcaSysis there just a way to list all my DVD/CD-Rom drives?01:59
knomeKillerOrcaSys, i'm on a bit slow moment now :)01:59
knomeKillerOrcaSys, wait a sec.01:59
knomeKillerOrcaSys, do you see your DVD drive icon in thunar?02:00
terminhellya i can bring that up normally02:00
knomeKillerOrcaSys, in the left?02:00
knometerminhell, so what is the problem?02:00
terminhellive added a connection there before02:01
terminhelland nothing02:01
KillerOrcaSysknome: it isn't in the left, but when I go to computer I can see the icon, when I click on it it says 'unable to mount'02:01
knometerminhell, nothing = ? you can't connect?02:01
terminhellive been told to enable roaming, but i have no option for it02:01
knomeKillerOrcaSys, ok02:01
GINZKnome  did i do it correctly this time?02:02
forcessaluton02:02
knomeGINZ, what is the pastebin url?02:02
GINZhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/94008/02:02
knomeGINZ, i think so. what happens if you restart?02:03
knomeGINZ, (mysql)02:03
knomeGINZ, does it work?02:03
GINZ?  restart?  exactly what does this mean?02:03
knomeGINZ, 'sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart'02:04
terminhell** (nm-connection-editor:14532): WARNING **: Invalid setting Wireless: ssid02:04
terminhell[WARN 14532] polkit-action.c:211:polkit_action_set_action_id(): polkit_action_validate_id (action_id)02:04
terminhell Not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace02:04
KillerOrcaSyssinbox: I'm starting to think it may be the jumpers, I have 3 IDEs though02:04
terminhellmeh, ima just reinstall ubuntu02:05
sinboxit could be that or maybe the cable not being in place fully at the back, worth a check just in case KillerOrcaSys has happened to me bofore and they looked good, but when I checked the cable wasn't in fully02:05
sinboxand you have the nm-applet tem? wht does that say?02:06
sinboxterminhell, *02:06
knomeKillerOrcaSys, what does 'sudo lshw | grep cd' return?02:06
terminhellnothing02:07
terminhellit just shows my wired connection02:07
GINZknome http://paste.ubuntu.com/94010/02:07
terminhelland options to connect to vpn and hidden stuff02:07
knomeGINZ, did you *really* get that last line with "mysql..." ?02:08
GINZyes02:08
sinboxyep, I had that problem with my broadcom too , it magically fixed itself after a reboot. do you know whtat chipset or chipset series your broadcom is?02:08
knomeGINZ, weird.02:08
knomeGINZ, however it looks like it's ok. can you login with phpmyadmin?02:08
terminhellb43xx02:08
GINZwoops I missed out one line02:09
terminhellya ive experienced the magic fix before02:09
sinboxand you used the FW43cutter already?02:09
terminhellwhen runing fedora 10 the other day it was doing that, would work sometimes then not, but  i had to use ndiwrapper02:09
terminhelli think so02:09
sinboxI had to run the FW43cuter twice before mine got fixed02:10
GINZknome http://paste.ubuntu.com/94011/02:10
terminhellhow do i do that02:10
sinboxone sec02:10
terminhelli dont understand why this is being so much more difficult02:11
KillerOrcaSysknome: http://paste.ubuntu.com/94012/02:11
sinboxdo you know which 43xxx it is exactly in there?  have any reference for it?02:12
knomeKillerOrcaSys, you have two cd/dvd drivers ?02:12
KillerOrcaSysknome: no, one is just CD02:12
knomeKillerOrcaSys, ok.02:12
GINZknome  no it is not accwpting my password, but I have only gone to step 2 so far of 6 steps02:12
knomeKillerOrcaSys, your system is trying to read the dvd from the cd drive02:12
knomeGINZ, ok02:12
terminhell Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)02:12
terminhell-,-02:13
sinboxok02:13
knomeKillerOrcaSys, 'vlc --dvd /dev/scd1' and try to play dvd?02:13
terminhelllike i said, it auto detected the restricted driver for it and i installed them, and usually after i ran that in ubuntu it work either work on the spot or after a reboot02:14
GINZknome   I don't know what is wrong but the step 3 got Access denied02:15
knomeGINZ, then the first step hasn't worked.02:16
knomeGINZ, do you have any importand data in there?02:16
GINZnot yet  LOL02:16
sinboxand do you have ndiswrapper installed?  I don't think this one needs the FW43cutter terminhell02:16
terminhellsinbox: no02:17
GINZMy son set the machine up in Feb and I have just started trying to use it02:17
knomeGINZ, ok, so you might want to 'sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-server'02:17
GINZand son is now out of reach02:17
knomeGINZ, and then 'sudo apt-get install mysql-server'02:17
knomeGINZ, you should get clean configuration02:17
knomeGINZ, and please do *NOT* forget your password again ;)02:18
GINZKnome will that be OK if I don;t have the right password?02:18
sinboxah ok02:18
GINZMy son has not given me complete control apparently02:18
sinboxterminhell, I think you want to read this then: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff02:19
knomeGINZ, the password is yours02:19
GINZOh the one for opening the computer?02:19
knomeGINZ, yes.02:19
GINZSo it is safe for me to do the two lines you gave above?02:20
knomeGINZ, yes, if you really don't have anything in the mysql (and nobody else has)02:20
KillerOrcaSyssinbox: do backwards jumpers matter?02:20
GINZal I have done with it was attempt to make a new user and db02:21
GINZso I could get work being done in Gallery02:21
knomeGINZ, so you've just installed it, right?02:21
KillerOrcaSysknome: http://paste.ubuntu.com/94015/02:21
GINZI shall do those lines now02:21
knomeGINZ, ok. :)02:21
knomeKillerOrcaSys, replace scd1 with scd0 ?02:22
GINZknome  woops another to paste02:23
knomeGINZ, ok02:23
KillerOrcaSysknome: same result02:24
knomeKillerOrcaSys, and you have a dvd in drive ?:P02:24
KillerOrcaSysknome: afraid so02:25
knomeKillerOrcaSys, what about /dev/dvd ?02:25
KillerOrcaSysknome: same result02:26
knomeKillerOrcaSys, and this dvd has worked earlier?02:26
GINZknome http://paste.ubuntu.com/94020/02:26
knomeGINZ, close synaptic ;)02:27
KillerOrcaSysknome: yeah, I didn't touch this IDE cable or these drives either when I installed the ned HDD02:27
GINZknome done02:27
knomeGINZ, try again02:27
GINZok02:27
knomeKillerOrcaSys, weird.02:28
KillerOrcaSysI am going to reboot to check something, bacck in a min02:28
GINZKnome this time it got "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user  ... etc02:29
knomeGINZ, please paste complete output at pastebin02:29
GINZ can I pm you please?02:30
knomeGINZ, ok, if it's really necessary ;)02:31
sinboxknome you ever used clonezilla live cd?02:38
knomesinbox, nope.02:39
sinboxok nvm :)02:39
KillerOrcaSyswell i removed the 2nd HDD and it still won't play DVD's02:53
KillerOrcaSysanyone have reccomendations for a new DVD drvie?02:53
KillerOrcaSysstill seems to read CDs fine though02:55
sinboxso you can play an audio CD in that drive via VLC?02:57
KillerOrcaSyssinbox: no, it just opens up sound juicer instead of refusing to do anything when I put in a DVD02:58
sinboxand if you have an audio CD in there can you play it via VLC?03:00
KillerOrcaSyssinbox: not via vlc but I can at least see the CD in the desktop03:01
sinboxeven if you start vlc it won't play the CD?03:02
sinboxwhen you do openm disc?03:02
sinbox-m03:02
KillerOrcaSyssinbox: I can open the disc, but not play anything, says I'm missing a codec03:03
knome!dvd | KillerOrcaSys03:03
ubottuKillerOrcaSys: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:03
sinboxweird that with vlcbut at least it finds the drive (or had you worked that out already?)03:03
knomeKillerOrcaSys, specifically: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs03:04
KillerOrcaSysknome: I have the formats, it just won't play03:04
knomemmhm.03:04
sinboxbut it finds the drive now?03:04
sinboxbeause I was under the impression it was not finding it earlier03:05
KillerOrcaSyssinbox: when there is a DVD in there it can't find it03:05
* sinbox wonder who is that remote that keeps closing connections03:05
knomeit's me03:06
sinboxok do this right now in vlc: view menu > messages03:06
sinboxin there you should have the reference to which is the drive (if you haven't closed it since you tried to play that CD)03:06
sinboxhaha03:06
* sinbox hides from remote knome 03:07
KillerOrcaSyssinbox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/94037/03:07
sinboxnot too sure, it's weird if the drive is mounted, I thought that that was the problem earlier03:08
knomei'm just guessing a missing dvdread lib03:08
knomeor just something really simple03:09
KillerOrcaSysknome: well I'm re-doing the lbdvdcss install03:09
knomeKillerOrcaSys, yep.03:09
KillerOrcaSysknome: still won't open the DVD03:11
knome:<03:12
knomehttp://failblog.org/2008/04/27/pot-of-gold-fail/03:12
KillerOrcaSysknome: http://paste.ubuntu.com/94040/03:13
sinboxif it was just a dvd lib missing the CD audio should have played though03:13
sinboxyou don't have another DVD or CD drive you could put in there just to try out?03:15
KillerOrcaSyssinbox: which leads me to believe I need a new drive, I mean it is 8 years old03:15
sinboxthat could be it, then again if you had another one you could just put in to test that would be easier03:16
sinboxmy DVD burner is all funny as well, it will only burn audio CDs, no data, no iso images :/  very annoying03:17
knomei need to sleep03:17
knomegood night everybody03:17
sinboxnight night over the east03:18
KillerOrcaSysknome: night03:18
KillerOrcaSyssinbox: at the moment no, I will need to newegg one down here03:18
william56anyone know of an app similiar to fruity loops that'll run in xubuntu?03:57
w00tis there a way to get archive manager to tell me its statu when its extracting a big file?04:04
w00twilliam56: lmms04:04
w00talthough you may wanna look into running an older version of fruity loops using wine with jack04:05
w00ti run win vsts with a very high working rate with newest wine using my good old windows sequencer :)04:05
w00tim pretty sure fl7 works04:05
william56thanks, but i'm looking to fill up this computer i'm gonna be getting my hands on with free stuff. i've bookmarked the lmms homepage though04:06
w00tcool, nothing wrong with that....remember that there are free apps to run windows vts to use in your stuff (and also lmms can run some win vsts)04:11
w00ta lot of win vsts are free, free beer though04:12
william56ah04:16
w00tand with jack audio its all connectable so you can mix native apps and whatever else jack compatible as needed...so many options i love it :D04:18
roccitycan anyone suggest if wubi is good for beginners04:32
roccityI got moms trying it out04:32
sinboxnever tried it but I guess it's a good way to find out what's in store without damaging yur windows04:32
roccityI tried it but that was a whie ago and it seemed slow04:34
sinboxwell it would be slower than a proper install04:36
roccityI'm just tring to convert family to  the dark side04:39
roccity:)04:40
w00tanyone know a good way to setup iso mounting in xubuntu similar to "daemon tools"04:40
forcesw00t, http://tinyurl.com/7jpzk705:20
w00tforces: haha, cute.05:21
w00tive solved the problem i should have said so, thanks05:21
Sinister i only want to get mail when the to: has one addy mine is that posoble ?05:32
william56w00t, i think there's something like mount /home/iso.iso /mnt/iso -t iso or something05:33
w00tyeah got a script now , thank05:34
w00tyou05:34
william56np05:34
william56what was the answer?05:34
william56oic, -t iso966005:35
william56oh great, my harddrive just clicked while i was resizing my windows partition for an xubuntu install05:45
w00tuh oh05:49
william56the whole thing froze, and i had to redetect the hd in the bios to get it working05:50
william56guess i'll be reinstalling windows tonight..05:51
william56oh hell05:52
william56i just realised i had 4 or 5 gigs worth of oblivion mods on there05:53
w00t:|05:54
w00ti hate that05:54
william56you ever play oblivion? i had the whole fcom: convergence deal, along with all of the wiseman's reduced textures packs, including the extra one.. probably another texture overhaul or two also05:57
w00tactually  i havent played...im a console gamer ;)06:05
william56ah06:06
xcyriusxanyone installed xubuntu on their ps3?06:15
maxamillionxcyriusx: no, fedora06:16
maxamillionxcyriusx: all sorts of tutorials ... was very easy06:16
xcyriusxthanks ill check it out06:17
juhlsHow do I totally not save a session at logout?  It always reopens programs I had open before.06:29
Odd-rationalejuhls: uncheck the save session check box when you log out... also you might want to delete ~/.cache/sesions06:32
Odd-rationaleor ~/.xfce4/sessions or something like that... forgot the exact name...06:33
juhlsI'll move the file checking the box doesn't seem to do anything06:33
Muhammad_SaadHello, I have installed xubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu 8.04 and now it has limited me to two virtual desktops. Whereas I remember that I could increase the number of virtual desktops as much as I wished when the last time I installed Xfce by just installing xfce4 package. What is the problem here? Does anyone know?06:56
Odd-rationaleMuhammad_Saad: well, in xfce, try going to Applications --> Settings --> settings manager. One of those should be able to change the number of desktops.06:58
JacobSMuhammad, if you have installed Compiz the desktop is only is limit a two desk06:58
Muhammad_SaadThanks Odd-rationale. I found it.07:01
snowmanis there a program that will let you use live input from a webcam?07:03
Muhammad_SaadI just got another question in my mind. I have seen videos of 3D cubes on GNOME as well as KDE. How can I do that? Which packages do I need? And is it possible on Xfce too?07:04
JacobSYes, but is very "buggy" is not recomend to begginers07:04
Muhammad_SaadIs it problematic on all desktop environments or just Xfce?07:05
snowmanmuhammad_saad: you need to download compiz Im running it no-prob07:06
snowmanit is very CPU intensive though07:06
JacobSIs very well with GNOME, but you need a ATI or Nvidia chips07:07
w00tits not as buggy as one might think (compiz)07:08
w00tits just gpu intensive07:08
Muhammad_SaadIt seems like the default Ubuntu installation already comes with some components of compiz as I can see them installed in the package manager. What do I need in addition to these?07:08
snowmanjust search compiz in add/remove07:09
w00tcompiz fusion, emerald, fusion-icon07:09
w00tfusion-icon is a very useful package if you want to run compiz07:09
JacobSemerald is a sust of Windows manager to Xfce, for this ha ve several bugs07:10
w00thmmm pretty stable for me07:10
w00tnewest iterations at least07:11
JacobSIs  possible run Xfce windows manager and emerald?07:11
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william56is it hard to update xubuntu using packages from a newer install cd?08:05
forceswilliam56, for examplo of hardy at intrepid08:13
forces?08:13
forcesor what?08:14
* forces sleep08:17
william56oh, sorry, meant 8.04.1 to 8.1008:18
sinboxso you want to upgrade then?08:27
william56yes08:29
ahklernerhi room09:01
william56hey ahklerner09:01
ahklerneris there a hotkey to take a screenshot09:02
ahklernerlike on windows i can printscreen and paste into paint09:02
ahklerneri tried that to paste into gimp but it didnt work :(09:02
william56http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=553015 try post #609:03
ahklerneri had just found that :)09:04
william56:P09:04
ahklerner(thread)09:04
ahklernersweet it worked thanks09:08
william56np09:08
GINZhi. I am trying to find how/where to adjust monitor colours in xubuntu. Can you help me please?10:10
ahklernerapplications->settings->settings manager->display ??11:03
GINZI tried that but it didn;t seem to make much difference11:05
GINZunless it doesn;t work till after rebooting11:06
ahklerneri really have no clue11:06
ahklernerexcept for that11:06
GINZOk thanks for trying11:06
GINZI probably shouldn't worry as I am getting a new monitor11:07
GINZI wish the Ubuntu help had a search11:07
ahklernerit does its called google11:08
GINZlol11:08
ahklernersearch the ubuntu forums11:08
GINZyep will do tomorrow as it is past midnight now11:09
GINZThanks11:09
klopapierhey12:16
klopapieranybody there?12:16
TheSheepno12:16
klopapierxDD12:17
klopapieri need some help with my xfce4-panel12:17
klopapierit wont start at startup12:17
klopapieralways gotta do it manually12:17
klopapierkinda sucks12:17
TheSheepremove your saved sessions from ~/.cache/sessions12:18
klopapierthats all?12:27
klopapieri'll try12:27
klopapierand theres another thing12:27
klopapieri have 2 hdd12:28
klopapierone with 3 partitions12:28
klopapierwell actually 412:28
klopapiersda : 1 linux native, 1 swap, 1 ntfs, 1 fat3212:28
klopapierand sdb : 1 fat32, 1 ntfs12:29
klopapiersda is SATA12:29
klopapiersdb is IDE to secondary port12:29
klopapierbut i only see my linux native12:29
TheSheep!ntfs12:31
ubottuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE12:31
klopapierthe thing is12:33
klopapierwhen i start gparted12:34
klopapierthe ntfs and the fat32 form the sda12:34
klopapierare mounted12:34
klopapierand sometimes those in sdb too12:34
klopapierbut not always12:34
XaeroOneis there anywhere I can check if xubuntu is compatible with my computer?12:52
solotimI'm running xubuntu 8.04 on an old Dell laptop (C600) .  My problem is that the display resolution can't be set to 1024x768. It stick in 800x600@56Hz. I have tried the "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" method, but it doesn't help. Anyone can help me out? Thanks13:53
viddwe just had someone with that problem the other day....13:53
viddwhat does lspci tell you your card is?13:54
PurplePlussolotim what happens if u try ctrl-alt-+(the plus key)13:54
solotimpurpleplus, nothing happened13:55
solotimATI Rage 128 Mobility graphics card.13:55
viddPurplePlus, he has a laptop....he probably only has the "+" on the same key as the "=" sign...and that dont work like you expect13:56
viddsolotim, that is NOT what lspci tells you13:56
solotimok, guys , I just found something maybe useful. thank you~ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82858813:56
PurplePlusouch13:56
solotimI'll report later.13:56
viddi love posts that say "blindly copy/paste the contents of "file x" into this folder that is used with elivated permissions during boot....."14:02
* vidd prefers posts that state the changes and why 14:02
viddPurplePlus, i like that resolution shortcut btw14:03
solotimDone, cheers14:04
solotim:)14:04
solotimthank u all14:04
solotimbye14:04
viddsolotim,14:04
viddhold up14:04
solotimyes,14:04
solotimwhat14:04
viddcan you at least add to that post the contents of that file?14:05
viddor maybe pastebin it?14:05
klopapierhey back again14:05
klopapierthanks TheSheep14:06
viddim assuming that it worked for you14:06
klopapierur tips worked fine14:06
solotimsorry, I don´t understand your meanning,  I just followed the guide of that post, downloaded the conf file it offered and substituted my local xorg.conf14:06
viddyes14:06
PurplePlus:)14:06
viddi would much like to see the contents of that file14:06
solotim:)14:06
solotimpaste here?14:06
viddbut im not going to register to a site14:06
solotimmay I?14:06
klopapiernow i just need a cool list of repositories14:06
solotimoh, I see.14:06
vidd!pastebin14:06
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)14:06
klopapierwere can i find them14:06
klopapier?14:07
viddsolotim, i want to make sure that the instructions dont have "import rootkit" in it somewhere =]14:07
klopapierwhere can i find a cool list of repositories?14:10
viddklopapier, define "cool"14:10
solotimhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/94302/14:10
klopapieror is it enough if i just uncomment those commented in the sources.list14:10
solotimdone14:10
klopapieri dont know14:10
klopapierwith lots of useful apps14:10
* vidd thinks that the basic main, universe and multiverse repos are just "cool" as i need14:10
klopapierxDD14:11
klopapierok14:11
ramrodjust look for apps youd like to use14:11
viddsolotim, let me review that b4 ya go?14:11
ramrodwhen somethings not in your repos add the required14:11
klopapierbut there are some packages it doesnt find14:11
klopapierVLC14:11
klopapieropera browser14:11
klopapierfor starters14:12
solotimwell, :) I have to go. I´ll come here tomorrow the same time14:12
solotimsee ya14:12
viddi wont be here14:12
viddthere is a lot of junk in that file14:12
solotimoh a!?14:13
solotimbut it works14:13
solotimwhy14:13
viddand you are now locked to only 1 sceen resolution14:13
solotimi dont care, since it works14:13
solotimthis is laptop14:13
klopapierwhat about those "canonical" and "backports" repos?14:13
solotimi can only in this resolution.14:13
viddif your fine with bloat and limitations, then fine14:13
klopapierworth to uncomment14:13
klopapier?14:14
solotimvidd, what´s your suggestion then14:14
solotimit will be appreciated14:14
viddremove line 50, and 55-84......14:14
viddyou should then have all resolutions your display and monitor can support14:15
solotimok. I´ll try tomorrow. Thank you very much!!  I´ll remember u14:15
solotimI really have to go. it´s time to do sth14:16
solotimbye14:16
viddalso...the keyboard and mouse are configured by HAL14:16
viddso you dont really need them either14:16
viddother than that, the file is safe to use14:16
klopapierwhat about those "canonical" and "backports" repos?14:19
klopapierworth to uncomment?14:19
viddklopapier, didnt you just say that b4?14:20
klopapieryeah but nobody answered14:20
klopapier:s14:20
viddand nobody new came into the room....14:20
viddthey didnt have an answer b4....why would they have one now?14:21
klopapiermaybe others in the room who weren't payin attention the fisrt time were now...14:21
klopapierdont know...14:21
viddi personally never bother with backports, and i dont have any idea if i would trust a "cononical" repo...so IDK14:21
klopapierjust u and solo were talkin14:21
klopapierok14:22
klopapierthanks14:22
viddlook at it this way....14:22
viddbackports add "new" apps to "old" versions14:23
klopapierok14:23
viddfor example....14:23
klopapierjust read in operas website14:23
klopapier"If you are using an Ubuntu-based distribution, you can get Opera directly from Canonical's commercial repository."14:23
viddafter 7.10's release, FF came out with version 314:23
viddif you wanted FF3 in 7.10, you had to compile it or get a deb....14:24
viddthen, it was added to backports14:24
klopapieri c14:24
klopapier...whats meant with "commercial repository" ... do i have to pay for installing packages?14:25
klopapierhows that14:25
vidddunno14:25
klopapierhope not14:26
klopapieri'll try14:26
viddlike i said...IDK if i'd trust that14:26
viddmultiverse is maintained by ppl looking out for ppl....14:27
vidddunno if id use a repo that is maintained by ppl looking out for corprate14:27
vidd=]14:28
Saad1How do I change the configuration for xkb layouts?14:45
Saad1in Ubuntu 8.1014:45
viddSaad1, you can add the keyboard layout plugin to your panels or go into the settings manager14:46
Saad1What if I want to change the settings for all users. Like in Ubuntu 8.04 it could be done by editing xorg.conf.14:49
viddSaad1, i would imagine you could do it the same as you did it in 8.0414:50
Saad1I have tried editing /etc/default/console-setup but it did not help.14:50
Saad1There is no keyboard section in xorg.conf14:50
viddso....add it14:50
Saad1I do not know what to add. Can you help?14:50
viddif you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" it will walk you thru it14:51
viddits the config tool for xorg14:52
viddand will add the lines you need for you14:52
viddsince i never needed to change my keyboard layout, i dont know exactly what lines should and should not been important14:53
viddand i dont want to miss something and leave you with a borked system14:54
vidd=]14:54
Saad1:) Let's try14:54
Saad1The release notes say: "The X.Org configuration file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf) still has InputDevice entries for the mouse and keyboard, but they are ignored now because input-hotplug is used. The keyboard settings now come from /etc/default/console-setup; to change them please use sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup. After that, HAL and X need to be restarted (e.g., by rebooting your system)."14:55
viddthen run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup"14:56
viddthen reboot your machine14:56
Saad1How do I restart HAL without rebooting? I am currently using live CD to make sure I am ready to install 8.1014:57
viddSaad1, so far as i know....you dont14:58
viddand when you install, you will be prompted to set the keyboard layout....14:58
viddim surprised the live cd didnt prompt you on boot14:59
viddyou can TRY "sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart14:59
Saad1It prompted on boot but the keyboard layout I want to use is a custom one.14:59
Saad1I know how to install but currently am not sure how to enable it.15:00
Saad1OK. I am trying.15:00
Saad1It worked. Thanks vidd.15:04
viddnp15:05
Guest92119anyone know how to turn on wobbly windows? intrepid - xfce15:51
TheSheep!compiz15:52
ubottuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion15:52
Guest92119i have installed the ati drivers15:52
Guest92119thanks15:53
william56do i need to do more than copy the directory packages are stored in and run apt-get install (packages) to install downloaded packages from one copy of xubuntu x86 to another?17:23
Cowie`Can someone explain to me why Xubuntu is showing my partitions / mounts on the desktop? And maybe tell me how to get rid of them D:17:31
slow-motionhi17:33
Cowie`Hello17:34
slow-motionhi Cowie`17:34
TheSheepCowie`: settings->desktop->second tab17:35
Cowie`TheSheep: If I do Settings > Desktop settings > Behaviour17:36
Cowie`Then edit desktop items, the only one to rid of it is the None setting - Which displays nothing then D:17:37
Cowie`Any other ideas TheSheep ?17:39
JacobSCowie do you have the option checkbox disabled Show icons for mounted devices?17:44
Cowie`Jacob - I get no option for that :\17:45
JacobSWhat is your version of Xubuntu17:45
Cowie`Oh wait sorry, all the options aren't ticked JacobS17:45
JacobSShow icons > for removable devices is not here?17:48
Cowie`removable devices is not ticked JacobS17:48
JacobSDo you use a old version of Xubuntu, is this present in 8.1017:49
Cowie`An only version - So I'll upgrade it all to 8.117:50
Cowie`I'll be back if it still persists at showing the files D:17:50
tinglethe wifi led on my notebooks blinks 24/7 when it has connection to a signal. can i tweak it so its just on or off? its just on in xp and ubuntu20:15
crimsunif you modify the source code, sure20:16
craigbass1976192.168.0.3:/home/craig/        /home/craig/remote      nfs     defaults          Any reason why this entry in /etc/fstab won't mount up the drive?  It worked before I wiped this laptop (had regular ubuntu on it, now it's clean xub)20:38
craigbass1976And I can't find in logs where the mounting failed20:38
craigbass1976On either box20:38
KeplerIs the NFS daemon on?20:38
craigbass1976Should it be on my laptop?  It is on the server.20:40
craigbass1976I probably didn't even install it, see nothing in /etc/init.d20:41
craigbass1976This appears to be the case... Installing appropriate packages.  Duh...20:42
craigbass1976And there's my share, ladies and gentlemen.  Thanks a bunch.  Too bad OpenOffice files still don't work over nfs...20:43
Keplerlol20:51
slow-motionn821:36
linuxlerneri have installed tightvnc package, and i am trying to connect to the machine from a windows machine running ultr@vnc . i am having problems, can anyone offer any advice?21:40
forcessaluton21:40
linuxlernerhello21:40
linuxlerneri do not know how to connect to xubuntu:121:42
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forceslinuxlerner, conect what?21:49
linuxlerneri am trying to connect via vnc to my xubuntu machine21:50
linuxlernerhen i start tightvncserver it says the display is xubuntu:121:51
arualaviI think that VNC servers are listening on port 590021:52
arualaviso you should be able to connect to your vnc server at: xubuntu_ip_adress:590021:53
linuxlernerhmm21:53
william56http://paste.ubuntu.com/94581/ i'm trying to mount a partition on the hard drive that xubuntu is installed on.. any advice?21:53
linuxlernerit wont connect21:54
linuxlernerjust says failed to connect21:54
linuxlernerlet me look at the tightvnc loge21:54
linuxlernerlog file21:54
william56anyone think mounting that partition using -o force could cause problems?21:55
linuxlernerit was port 590121:56
* linuxlerner goes to google for configuration21:57
linuxlernerok well i can connect via vnc, but i cant do anything22:05
linuxlernerjust get a pixely screen and crosshares22:05
linuxlernerany ideas?22:07
linuxlerneri have looked at this but there is no other config info there https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC22:09
linuxlernerfor tightvncserver22:09
linuxlerneranyone help with tightvncserver configuration22:23
asdf-anyone have any links how to speed up xubuntu?22:47
asdf-everything im finding on google relates to gentoo22:47
TheSheepasdf-: that's one way :)22:49
asdf-yes, but do you know of any tutorials geared for xubuntu/ubuntu?22:49
TheSheepasdf-: actually I think it's the simplest way: use  faster distro22:49
TheSheepasdf-: everything that could be done without losing features was already done22:50
asdf-ok, how do i disable features?22:51
TheSheepdepends on whic ones you want to disable22:52
TheSheepyou can stop the cups daemon if you don't need printing, for example22:52
asdf-yes, i already did that one23:01
asdf-i want to disable dialup too23:01
asdf-the ones that startup are in /etc/init.d/ ? which ones do i must have enabled?23:02

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