[00:01] <terminhell> Fresh install of xubuntu, freshly updated, activated the restricted Broadcom drivers and things still not working. Ironicly it seems like the wireless device is ON via the LED....
[00:20] <sinbox> is this inbuil or pcmcia card?
[00:20] <sinbox> oh
[00:20] <sinbox> he gone
[00:36] <linuxman410> how can you check amount of memory in computer in xubuntu
[00:38] <linuxman410> is there something i can type in terminal and get it
[00:40] <knome> linuxman410, 'free' / 'free -m' (as megabytes)
[00:40] <linuxman410> thanks
[00:40] <knome> maybe try learning google?
[00:40] <knome> not an offense, but you get quicker answers :)
[00:41] <linuxman410> ok
[00:41] <linuxman410> i do not mind waiting xubuntu and ubuntu has best support i ever seen
[00:42] <knome> yeah well, you could maybe part of that support ;)
[00:43] <knome> +be
[00:43]  * sinbox just asked google what a "debug build" is
[00:48] <knome> i want pizza
[01:01] <owen1__> my Gforce card is not being used. how to tell ubuntu to start using it?
[01:02] <knome> owen1__, if you have an integrated card, maybe disable it first from the bios
[01:03] <owen1__> knome: i don't know what integrated card means. mine is: GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x
[01:03] <sinbox> !pizza
[01:03] <knome> owen1__, integrated in your motherboard.
[01:03] <sinbox> oopss: bad bot
[01:03] <sinbox> :)
[01:05] <owen1__> knome: does integrated means - 'can't detach from my motherboard' ?
[01:06] <knome> owen1__, yes.
[01:06] <owen1__> knome: when i type : grep drivers /var/log/Xorg.0.log   i see: Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nv_drv.so
[01:06] <knome> maybe nv_drv refers to integrated nvidia card.
[01:06] <owen1__> knome: when i type: glxgears -info   i see: GL_RENDERER   = Software Rasterizer
[01:07] <sinbox> is your cadr on the motherboard or do  you have a card in a PCI/AGP slot owen1__ ?
[01:07] <terminhell1> anyone here???
[01:07] <knome> terminhell1, nope.
[01:07] <terminhell1> dang
[01:07] <terminhell1> :p
[01:08] <terminhell1> i just installed, updated and trying to get my broadcom working
[01:08] <sinbox> is this inbuil or pcmcia card? terminhell1
[01:08] <GINZ> Hi
[01:08] <terminhell1> it worked under ubuntu, and inbuilt
[01:08] <GINZ>  I am running Xubuntu, and recently made a blunder in the terminal. I got the error notice "#1290 - The MYSQL server is running with the - - skip-gfrant-tables option
 so it cannot execute this statement
[01:08] <owen1__> sinbox: is it the card with the vga and svideo connections?
[01:08] <terminhell1> via the restricted b43 driver but now i get nothing
[01:09] <GINZ> Can anyone tell me how to fix this please?
[01:09] <sinbox> did you use the bw43cutter thingmajig terminhell1
[01:09] <terminhell1> ya the firmware seems to be installed
[01:09] <owen1__> sinbox: i don't know what it's look like..sorry for my ignorance..
[01:09]  * sinbox knows nothing about mySQL GINZ 
[01:10] <sinbox> it's ok owen1__ , how many video/monitor output do you have? (asin: in separate places on your computer)
[01:10] <knome> GINZ, maybe 'sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart'
[01:11] <sinbox> is your network settings set to roaming terminhell1 ?
[01:11] <GINZ> Ah  thanks i will try that
[01:11] <knome> it should just restart the mysql server
[01:11] <terminhell1> i dont see any way of setting it to that
[01:12] <sinbox> applications menu > system > network
[01:12] <terminhell1> the weird part is, is the LED light is on for the device...
[01:12] <terminhell1> and when i run iwconfig i get info about it
[01:12] <sinbox> selct the wireless network and check if the roaming tick box is enabled
[01:12] <sinbox> can you pastebin your iwconfig output?
[01:13] <owen1__> sinbox: only 1 vga and 1 svideo (on the some card)
[01:13] <terminhell1> and all i can see is just the words Wireless Networks
[01:14] <terminhell1> http://pastebin.com/d17f19d5f
[01:14] <owen1__> sinbox: (on the same card)
[01:17] <sinbox> and your monitor is pluged into that card then owen1__
[01:18] <owen1__> sinbox: yes
[01:19] <sinbox> then surely it's working (or am I missing the point here?)
[01:20] <terminhell1> its like im missing some network utilities
[01:21] <sinbox> have you tried to switch the roaming on terminhell1 in the network settings window which appears from here:  applications menu > system > network?
[01:21] <owen1__> sinbox: i can't play games. even crappy 2d games since everything is slow.
[01:21] <terminhell1> i dont have that
[01:22] <GINZ> Knome, I did  'sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart' It stopped then restarted mysql, then gave line "Checking for corrupt. not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables.
[01:22] <owen1__> sinbox: someone told me to type the command  glxgears -info and the result was: GL_RENDERER   = Software Rasterizer
[01:22] <sinbox> hmm no idea wht needs to be done for you I'm afraid owen1__
[01:22] <owen1__> sinbox: no problem. thanks!
[01:22] <knome> GINZ, what is going on now then?
[01:22] <sinbox> you can also ask in ubuntu owen1__ if no one can help you here
[01:22] <owen1__> sinbox: i will.
[01:22] <sinbox> what don't you have terminhell1 ?
[01:23] <GINZ> knome I am not sure
[01:23] <terminhell1> i dont have "network" in App>syst
[01:23] <knome> GINZ, is it working or not? :P
[01:23] <sinbox> hmmm weird, are you on 8.10?
[01:24] <GINZ> I will check. I am new to this and have to follow a tutorial so it will take me a moment or three
[01:24] <terminhell1> ya
[01:24] <terminhell1> and updated
[01:24] <knome> GINZ, k
[01:24] <terminhell1> whats the command util called? maybe i can find it manually
[01:26] <sinbox> take a look at this maybe terminhell1 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[01:26] <sinbox> it's a how-to setup wifi via the cli
[01:28] <terminhell1> awesome
[01:29] <sinbox> give it a try
[01:29] <sinbox> by the time you come back I might have my laptop backed up and installing 8.04
[01:34] <GINZ> Knome I am haing trouble... phpmyadmin is not recognising my password
[01:35] <GINZ> I guess I will have to do the whole password setting process again
[01:35] <knome> GINZ, suppose so.
[01:35] <GINZ> OK  see you later if i still have trouble  :) Thanks
[01:35] <knome> yeah.
[01:36] <knome> i'm going really soon to bed.
[01:36] <knome> but there's other people who can help you.
[01:36] <GINZ> OK  bye
[01:36] <knome> bye.
[01:36] <GINZ> That is the trouble with being in NZ
[01:36] <GINZ> everyone else is in different time zones
[01:36] <GINZ> Bye
[01:37] <knome> hah, the clock is 3.30am here ;)
[01:38] <KillerOrcaSys> I lost the ability to play DVDs any troubleshooting help would be appreciated
[01:38] <GINZ> yikes 2.38pm here
[01:38] <knome> !dvd
[01:38] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: I could play them, they won't anymore
[01:39] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, after doing *what*
[01:39] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: as far as I can tell, installing a 2nd HDD
[01:40] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, doesn't sound a reason.
[01:40] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, if you launch your dvd player app in terminal, what output do you get?
[01:40] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: well other than that I have been doing normal apt updates
[01:40] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: I use VLC, not sure how to launch it via terminal
[01:40] <terminhell> =/
[01:41] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, just open terminal and run 'vlc'
[01:41] <sinbox> I take it the DVD and 2nd HDD are on the secondary IDE, have you set the jumpers properly KillerOrcaSys ?
[01:42] <KillerOrcaSys> sinbox: well I can access both drives so I am assuming
[01:42] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: should I run it with the DVD in the drive?
[01:43] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, sure, and try to play the dvd
[01:44] <sinbox> yeah I guess you'd get a warning at boot time if the jumpers were badly messing it up
[01:45] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: ok vlc starts then just sits there
[01:45] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, try to play the dvd
[01:45] <GINZ> knome I am using http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/recover-mysql-root-password.html
[01:46] <knome> GINZ, yes?
[01:46] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: I get this:Unable to open 'dvd:///dev/scd0'
[01:47] <GINZ>  got to second step, # mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables &, and it says mysql_safe: command not found
[01:47] <knome> GINZ, mysql*D*_safe
[01:47] <GINZ> woops, thanks
[01:48] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, a-ha. you have a different dev path now. type 'mount' in another terminal
[01:48] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: mount what?
[01:48] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, just 'mount'
[01:49] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, you should see a list of current mounts
[01:49] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: yeah I do
[01:49] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, can you paste to pastebin
[01:49] <knome> !pastebin
[01:50] <terminhell> :(
[01:50] <GINZ> knome the webpage has output  [1] 5988
[01:50] <GINZ> Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql
[01:50] <GINZ> mysqld_safe[6025]: started
[01:50] <terminhell> ugh, i guess i should just switch back to ubuntu
[01:50] <knome> GINZ, yeah?
[01:50] <GINZ>  Mine has different numbers
[01:50] <knome> GINZ, the numbers doesn't matter.
[01:51] <knome> GINZ, they are just process numbers
[01:51] <GINZ> and after Started has another line
[01:51] <knome> terminhell, ?
[01:51] <sinbox> still no luck terminhell I take it
[01:51] <knome> GINZ, which line?
[01:51] <terminhell> ya, nothinig
[01:51] <sinbox> wa it working in ubuntu that wifi?
[01:51] <terminhell> its like im missin 1 little thing or something
[01:51] <knome> terminhell, nm-applet?
[01:51] <GINZ> starting " STOPPING server
[01:51] <terminhell> its not getting info from dhcp
[01:52] <sinbox> have you tried giving it a fixed IP within your range available?
[01:52] <knome> GINZ, just try to proceed
[01:52] <knome> GINZ, or then paste the complete output of all the commands to pastebin
[01:53] <terminhell> i  have nm-applet
[01:53] <terminhell> and its running
[01:53] <terminhell> has been
[01:53] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: http://paste.ubuntu.com/94001/
[01:53] <sinbox> and your wifi light is still flashing on the laptop?
[01:53] <GINZ> from pid file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid mysqld_safe[7699]:ended"
[01:53] <GINZ> Knome  what is pastebin?
[01:53] <sinbox> !pastebin
[01:53] <knome> !pastebin | GINZ
[01:53] <terminhell> ya (it doesnt flash, static, always has)
[01:54] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, so if you navigate to /media/disk, does it show the contents of your dvd?
[01:54] <sinbox> ok, it's weird you can't open your network settings from the menu though
[01:54] <terminhell> ya nothing there
[01:55] <knome> terminhell, can you do a really quick recap: what is not working? wifi?
[01:55] <GINZ> !pastebin " STOPPING server  from pid file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid mysqld_safe[7699]:ended"
[01:56] <terminhell> knome: ya, broadcom, LED is active, the antenna is on i just cant get it to connect to anything + i dont have a Applications>System>"Network"
[01:56] <knome> GINZ, go to that URL and paste the *whole* output there
[01:56] <GINZ> knome did that work?
[01:56] <GINZ> Oh ok
[01:56] <sinbox> GINZ,  you have to go to: http://paste.ubuntu.com and then paste on that page
[01:57] <knome> terminhell, 'sudo nm-connection-manager' at terminal?
[01:58] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: I think /media/disk is my 2nd HDD
[01:58] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, ok.
[01:58] <terminhell> command not found
[01:59] <knome> terminhell, ok: 'sudo nm-connection-editor'
[01:59] <KillerOrcaSys> is there just a way to list all my DVD/CD-Rom drives?
[01:59] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, i'm on a bit slow moment now :)
[01:59] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, wait a sec.
[02:00] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, do you see your DVD drive icon in thunar?
[02:00] <terminhell> ya i can bring that up normally
[02:00] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, in the left?
[02:00] <knome> terminhell, so what is the problem?
[02:01] <terminhell> ive added a connection there before
[02:01] <terminhell> and nothing
[02:01] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: it isn't in the left, but when I go to computer I can see the icon, when I click on it it says 'unable to mount'
[02:01] <knome> terminhell, nothing = ? you can't connect?
[02:01] <terminhell> ive been told to enable roaming, but i have no option for it
[02:01] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, ok
[02:02] <GINZ> Knome  did i do it correctly this time?
[02:02] <forces> saluton
[02:02] <knome> GINZ, what is the pastebin url?
[02:02] <GINZ> http://paste.ubuntu.com/94008/
[02:03] <knome> GINZ, i think so. what happens if you restart?
[02:03] <knome> GINZ, (mysql)
[02:03] <knome> GINZ, does it work?
[02:03] <GINZ> ?  restart?  exactly what does this mean?
[02:04] <knome> GINZ, 'sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart'
[02:04] <terminhell> ** (nm-connection-editor:14532): WARNING **: Invalid setting Wireless: ssid
[02:04] <terminhell> [WARN 14532] polkit-action.c:211:polkit_action_set_action_id(): polkit_action_validate_id (action_id)
[02:04] <terminhell>  Not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace
[02:04] <KillerOrcaSys> sinbox: I'm starting to think it may be the jumpers, I have 3 IDEs though
[02:05] <terminhell> meh, ima just reinstall ubuntu
[02:05] <sinbox> it could be that or maybe the cable not being in place fully at the back, worth a check just in case KillerOrcaSys has happened to me bofore and they looked good, but when I checked the cable wasn't in fully
[02:06] <sinbox> and you have the nm-applet tem? wht does that say?
[02:06] <sinbox> terminhell, *
[02:06] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, what does 'sudo lshw | grep cd' return?
[02:07] <terminhell> nothing
[02:07] <terminhell> it just shows my wired connection
[02:07] <GINZ> knome http://paste.ubuntu.com/94010/
[02:07] <terminhell> and options to connect to vpn and hidden stuff
[02:08] <knome> GINZ, did you *really* get that last line with "mysql..." ?
[02:08] <GINZ> yes
[02:08] <sinbox> yep, I had that problem with my broadcom too , it magically fixed itself after a reboot. do you know whtat chipset or chipset series your broadcom is?
[02:08] <knome> GINZ, weird.
[02:08] <knome> GINZ, however it looks like it's ok. can you login with phpmyadmin?
[02:08] <terminhell> b43xx
[02:09] <GINZ> woops I missed out one line
[02:09] <terminhell> ya ive experienced the magic fix before
[02:09] <sinbox> and you used the FW43cutter already?
[02:09] <terminhell> when runing fedora 10 the other day it was doing that, would work sometimes then not, but  i had to use ndiwrapper
[02:09] <terminhell> i think so
[02:10] <sinbox> I had to run the FW43cuter twice before mine got fixed
[02:10] <GINZ> knome http://paste.ubuntu.com/94011/
[02:10] <terminhell> how do i do that
[02:10] <sinbox> one sec
[02:11] <terminhell> i dont understand why this is being so much more difficult
[02:11] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: http://paste.ubuntu.com/94012/
[02:12] <sinbox> do you know which 43xxx it is exactly in there?  have any reference for it?
[02:12] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, you have two cd/dvd drivers ?
[02:12] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: no, one is just CD
[02:12] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, ok.
[02:12] <GINZ> knome  no it is not accwpting my password, but I have only gone to step 2 so far of 6 steps
[02:12] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, your system is trying to read the dvd from the cd drive
[02:12] <knome> GINZ, ok
[02:12] <terminhell>  Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[02:13] <terminhell> -,-
[02:13] <sinbox> ok
[02:13] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, 'vlc --dvd /dev/scd1' and try to play dvd?
[02:14] <terminhell> like i said, it auto detected the restricted driver for it and i installed them, and usually after i ran that in ubuntu it work either work on the spot or after a reboot
[02:15] <GINZ> knome   I don't know what is wrong but the step 3 got Access denied
[02:16] <knome> GINZ, then the first step hasn't worked.
[02:16] <knome> GINZ, do you have any importand data in there?
[02:16] <GINZ> not yet  LOL
[02:16] <sinbox> and do you have ndiswrapper installed?  I don't think this one needs the FW43cutter terminhell
[02:17] <terminhell> sinbox: no
[02:17] <GINZ> My son set the machine up in Feb and I have just started trying to use it
[02:17] <knome> GINZ, ok, so you might want to 'sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-server'
[02:17] <GINZ> and son is now out of reach
[02:17] <knome> GINZ, and then 'sudo apt-get install mysql-server'
[02:17] <knome> GINZ, you should get clean configuration
[02:18] <knome> GINZ, and please do *NOT* forget your password again ;)
[02:18] <GINZ> Knome will that be OK if I don;t have the right password?
[02:18] <sinbox> ah ok
[02:18] <GINZ> My son has not given me complete control apparently
[02:19] <sinbox> terminhell, I think you want to read this then: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[02:19] <knome> GINZ, the password is yours
[02:19] <GINZ> Oh the one for opening the computer?
[02:19] <knome> GINZ, yes.
[02:20] <GINZ> So it is safe for me to do the two lines you gave above?
[02:20] <knome> GINZ, yes, if you really don't have anything in the mysql (and nobody else has)
[02:20] <KillerOrcaSys> sinbox: do backwards jumpers matter?
[02:21] <GINZ> al I have done with it was attempt to make a new user and db
[02:21] <GINZ> so I could get work being done in Gallery
[02:21] <knome> GINZ, so you've just installed it, right?
[02:21] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: http://paste.ubuntu.com/94015/
[02:21] <GINZ> I shall do those lines now
[02:21] <knome> GINZ, ok. :)
[02:22] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, replace scd1 with scd0 ?
[02:23] <GINZ> knome  woops another to paste
[02:23] <knome> GINZ, ok
[02:24] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: same result
[02:24] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, and you have a dvd in drive ?:P
[02:25] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: afraid so
[02:25] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, what about /dev/dvd ?
[02:26] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: same result
[02:26] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, and this dvd has worked earlier?
[02:26] <GINZ> knome http://paste.ubuntu.com/94020/
[02:27] <knome> GINZ, close synaptic ;)
[02:27] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: yeah, I didn't touch this IDE cable or these drives either when I installed the ned HDD
[02:27] <GINZ> knome done
[02:27] <knome> GINZ, try again
[02:27] <GINZ> ok
[02:28] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, weird.
[02:28] <KillerOrcaSys> I am going to reboot to check something, bacck in a min
[02:29] <GINZ> Knome this time it got "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user  ... etc
[02:29] <knome> GINZ, please paste complete output at pastebin
[02:30] <GINZ>  can I pm you please?
[02:31] <knome> GINZ, ok, if it's really necessary ;)
[02:38] <sinbox> knome you ever used clonezilla live cd?
[02:39] <knome> sinbox, nope.
[02:39] <sinbox> ok nvm :)
[02:53] <KillerOrcaSys> well i removed the 2nd HDD and it still won't play DVD's
[02:53] <KillerOrcaSys> anyone have reccomendations for a new DVD drvie?
[02:55] <KillerOrcaSys> still seems to read CDs fine though
[02:57] <sinbox> so you can play an audio CD in that drive via VLC?
[02:58] <KillerOrcaSys> sinbox: no, it just opens up sound juicer instead of refusing to do anything when I put in a DVD
[03:00] <sinbox> and if you have an audio CD in there can you play it via VLC?
[03:01] <KillerOrcaSys> sinbox: not via vlc but I can at least see the CD in the desktop
[03:02] <sinbox> even if you start vlc it won't play the CD?
[03:02] <sinbox> when you do openm disc?
[03:02] <sinbox> -m
[03:03] <KillerOrcaSys> sinbox: I can open the disc, but not play anything, says I'm missing a codec
[03:03] <knome> !dvd | KillerOrcaSys
[03:03] <sinbox> weird that with vlcbut at least it finds the drive (or had you worked that out already?)
[03:04] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, specifically: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[03:04] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: I have the formats, it just won't play
[03:04] <knome> mmhm.
[03:04] <sinbox> but it finds the drive now?
[03:05] <sinbox> beause I was under the impression it was not finding it earlier
[03:05] <KillerOrcaSys> sinbox: when there is a DVD in there it can't find it
[03:05]  * sinbox wonder who is that remote that keeps closing connections
[03:06] <knome> it's me
[03:06] <sinbox> ok do this right now in vlc: view menu > messages
[03:06] <sinbox> in there you should have the reference to which is the drive (if you haven't closed it since you tried to play that CD)
[03:06] <sinbox> haha
[03:07]  * sinbox hides from remote knome 
[03:07] <KillerOrcaSys> sinbox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/94037/
[03:08] <sinbox> not too sure, it's weird if the drive is mounted, I thought that that was the problem earlier
[03:08] <knome> i'm just guessing a missing dvdread lib
[03:09] <knome> or just something really simple
[03:09] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: well I'm re-doing the lbdvdcss install
[03:09] <knome> KillerOrcaSys, yep.
[03:11] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: still won't open the DVD
[03:12] <knome> :<
[03:12] <knome> http://failblog.org/2008/04/27/pot-of-gold-fail/
[03:13] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: http://paste.ubuntu.com/94040/
[03:13] <sinbox> if it was just a dvd lib missing the CD audio should have played though
[03:15] <sinbox> you don't have another DVD or CD drive you could put in there just to try out?
[03:15] <KillerOrcaSys> sinbox: which leads me to believe I need a new drive, I mean it is 8 years old
[03:16] <sinbox> that could be it, then again if you had another one you could just put in to test that would be easier
[03:17] <sinbox> my DVD burner is all funny as well, it will only burn audio CDs, no data, no iso images :/  very annoying
[03:17] <knome> i need to sleep
[03:17] <knome> good night everybody
[03:18] <sinbox> night night over the east
[03:18] <KillerOrcaSys> knome: night
[03:18] <KillerOrcaSys> sinbox: at the moment no, I will need to newegg one down here
[03:57] <william56> anyone know of an app similiar to fruity loops that'll run in xubuntu?
[04:04] <w00t> is there a way to get archive manager to tell me its statu when its extracting a big file?
[04:04] <w00t> william56: lmms
[04:05] <w00t> although you may wanna look into running an older version of fruity loops using wine with jack
[04:05] <w00t> i run win vsts with a very high working rate with newest wine using my good old windows sequencer :)
[04:05] <w00t> im pretty sure fl7 works
[04:06] <william56> thanks, but i'm looking to fill up this computer i'm gonna be getting my hands on with free stuff. i've bookmarked the lmms homepage though
[04:11] <w00t> cool, nothing wrong with that....remember that there are free apps to run windows vts to use in your stuff (and also lmms can run some win vsts)
[04:12] <w00t> a lot of win vsts are free, free beer though
[04:16] <william56> ah
[04:18] <w00t> and with jack audio its all connectable so you can mix native apps and whatever else jack compatible as needed...so many options i love it :D
[04:32] <roccity> can anyone suggest if wubi is good for beginners
[04:32] <roccity> I got moms trying it out
[04:32] <sinbox> never tried it but I guess it's a good way to find out what's in store without damaging yur windows
[04:34] <roccity> I tried it but that was a whie ago and it seemed slow
[04:36] <sinbox> well it would be slower than a proper install
[04:39] <roccity> I'm just tring to convert family to  the dark side
[04:40] <roccity> :)
[04:40] <w00t> anyone know a good way to setup iso mounting in xubuntu similar to "daemon tools"
[05:20] <forces> w00t, http://tinyurl.com/7jpzk7
[05:21] <w00t> forces: haha, cute.
[05:21] <w00t> ive solved the problem i should have said so, thanks
[05:32] <Sinister>  i only want to get mail when the to: has one addy mine is that posoble ?
[05:33] <william56> w00t, i think there's something like mount /home/iso.iso /mnt/iso -t iso or something
[05:34] <w00t> yeah got a script now , thank
[05:34] <w00t> you
[05:34] <william56> np
[05:34] <william56> what was the answer?
[05:35] <william56> oic, -t iso9660
[05:45] <william56> oh great, my harddrive just clicked while i was resizing my windows partition for an xubuntu install
[05:49] <w00t> uh oh
[05:50] <william56> the whole thing froze, and i had to redetect the hd in the bios to get it working
[05:51] <william56> guess i'll be reinstalling windows tonight..
[05:52] <william56> oh hell
[05:53] <william56> i just realised i had 4 or 5 gigs worth of oblivion mods on there
[05:54] <w00t> :|
[05:54] <w00t> i hate that
[05:57] <william56> you ever play oblivion? i had the whole fcom: convergence deal, along with all of the wiseman's reduced textures packs, including the extra one.. probably another texture overhaul or two also
[06:05] <w00t> actually  i havent played...im a console gamer ;)
[06:06] <william56> ah
[06:15] <xcyriusx> anyone installed xubuntu on their ps3?
[06:16] <maxamillion> xcyriusx: no, fedora
[06:16] <maxamillion> xcyriusx: all sorts of tutorials ... was very easy
[06:17] <xcyriusx> thanks ill check it out
[06:29] <juhls> How do I totally not save a session at logout?  It always reopens programs I had open before.
[06:32] <Odd-rationale> juhls: uncheck the save session check box when you log out... also you might want to delete ~/.cache/sesions
[06:33] <Odd-rationale> or ~/.xfce4/sessions or something like that... forgot the exact name...
[06:33] <juhls> I'll move the file checking the box doesn't seem to do anything
[06:56] <Muhammad_Saad> Hello, I have installed xubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu 8.04 and now it has limited me to two virtual desktops. Whereas I remember that I could increase the number of virtual desktops as much as I wished when the last time I installed Xfce by just installing xfce4 package. What is the problem here? Does anyone know?
[06:58] <Odd-rationale> Muhammad_Saad: well, in xfce, try going to Applications --> Settings --> settings manager. One of those should be able to change the number of desktops.
[06:58] <JacobS> Muhammad, if you have installed Compiz the desktop is only is limit a two desk
[07:01] <Muhammad_Saad> Thanks Odd-rationale. I found it.
[07:03] <snowman> is there a program that will let you use live input from a webcam?
[07:04] <Muhammad_Saad> I just got another question in my mind. I have seen videos of 3D cubes on GNOME as well as KDE. How can I do that? Which packages do I need? And is it possible on Xfce too?
[07:04] <JacobS> Yes, but is very "buggy" is not recomend to begginers
[07:05] <Muhammad_Saad> Is it problematic on all desktop environments or just Xfce?
[07:06] <snowman> muhammad_saad: you need to download compiz Im running it no-prob
[07:06] <snowman> it is very CPU intensive though
[07:07] <JacobS> Is very well with GNOME, but you need a ATI or Nvidia chips
[07:08] <w00t> its not as buggy as one might think (compiz)
[07:08] <w00t> its just gpu intensive
[07:08] <Muhammad_Saad> It seems like the default Ubuntu installation already comes with some components of compiz as I can see them installed in the package manager. What do I need in addition to these?
[07:09] <snowman> just search compiz in add/remove
[07:09] <w00t> compiz fusion, emerald, fusion-icon
[07:09] <w00t> fusion-icon is a very useful package if you want to run compiz
[07:10] <JacobS> emerald is a sust of Windows manager to Xfce, for this ha ve several bugs
[07:10] <w00t> hmmm pretty stable for me
[07:11] <w00t> newest iterations at least
[07:11] <JacobS> Is  possible run Xfce windows manager and emerald?
[08:05] <william56> is it hard to update xubuntu using packages from a newer install cd?
[08:13] <forces> william56, for examplo of hardy at intrepid
[08:13] <forces> ?
[08:14] <forces> or what?
[08:17]  * forces sleep
[08:18] <william56> oh, sorry, meant 8.04.1 to 8.10
[08:27] <sinbox> so you want to upgrade then?
[08:29] <william56> yes
[09:01] <ahklerner> hi room
[09:01] <william56> hey ahklerner
[09:02] <ahklerner> is there a hotkey to take a screenshot
[09:02] <ahklerner> like on windows i can printscreen and paste into paint
[09:02] <ahklerner> i tried that to paste into gimp but it didnt work :(
[09:03] <william56> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=553015 try post #6
[09:04] <ahklerner> i had just found that :)
[09:04] <william56> :P
[09:04] <ahklerner> (thread)
[09:08] <ahklerner> sweet it worked thanks
[09:08] <william56> np
[10:10] <GINZ> hi. I am trying to find how/where to adjust monitor colours in xubuntu. Can you help me please?
[11:03] <ahklerner> applications->settings->settings manager->display ??
[11:05] <GINZ> I tried that but it didn;t seem to make much difference
[11:06] <GINZ> unless it doesn;t work till after rebooting
[11:06] <ahklerner> i really have no clue
[11:06] <ahklerner> except for that
[11:06] <GINZ> Ok thanks for trying
[11:07] <GINZ> I probably shouldn't worry as I am getting a new monitor
[11:07] <GINZ> I wish the Ubuntu help had a search
[11:08] <ahklerner> it does its called google
[11:08] <GINZ> lol
[11:08] <ahklerner> search the ubuntu forums
[11:09] <GINZ> yep will do tomorrow as it is past midnight now
[11:09] <GINZ> Thanks
[12:16] <klopapier> hey
[12:16] <klopapier> anybody there?
[12:16] <TheSheep> no
[12:17] <klopapier> xDD
[12:17] <klopapier> i need some help with my xfce4-panel
[12:17] <klopapier> it wont start at startup
[12:17] <klopapier> always gotta do it manually
[12:17] <klopapier> kinda sucks
[12:18] <TheSheep> remove your saved sessions from ~/.cache/sessions
[12:27] <klopapier> thats all?
[12:27] <klopapier> i'll try
[12:27] <klopapier> and theres another thing
[12:28] <klopapier> i have 2 hdd
[12:28] <klopapier> one with 3 partitions
[12:28] <klopapier> well actually 4
[12:28] <klopapier> sda : 1 linux native, 1 swap, 1 ntfs, 1 fat32
[12:29] <klopapier> and sdb : 1 fat32, 1 ntfs
[12:29] <klopapier> sda is SATA
[12:29] <klopapier> sdb is IDE to secondary port
[12:29] <klopapier> but i only see my linux native
[12:31] <TheSheep> !ntfs
[12:33] <klopapier> the thing is
[12:34] <klopapier> when i start gparted
[12:34] <klopapier> the ntfs and the fat32 form the sda
[12:34] <klopapier> are mounted
[12:34] <klopapier> and sometimes those in sdb too
[12:34] <klopapier> but not always
[12:52] <XaeroOne> is there anywhere I can check if xubuntu is compatible with my computer?
[13:53] <solotim> I'm running xubuntu 8.04 on an old Dell laptop (C600) .  My problem is that the display resolution can't be set to 1024x768. It stick in 800x600@56Hz. I have tried the "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" method, but it doesn't help. Anyone can help me out? Thanks
[13:53] <vidd> we just had someone with that problem the other day....
[13:54] <vidd> what does lspci tell you your card is?
[13:54] <PurplePlus> solotim what happens if u try ctrl-alt-+(the plus key)
[13:55] <solotim> purpleplus, nothing happened
[13:55] <solotim> ATI Rage 128 Mobility graphics card.
[13:56] <vidd> PurplePlus, he has a laptop....he probably only has the "+" on the same key as the "=" sign...and that dont work like you expect
[13:56] <vidd> solotim, that is NOT what lspci tells you
[13:56] <solotim> ok, guys , I just found something maybe useful. thank you~ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=828588
[13:56] <PurplePlus> ouch
[13:56] <solotim> I'll report later.
[14:02] <vidd> i love posts that say "blindly copy/paste the contents of "file x" into this folder that is used with elivated permissions during boot....."
[14:02]  * vidd prefers posts that state the changes and why 
[14:03] <vidd> PurplePlus, i like that resolution shortcut btw
[14:04] <solotim> Done, cheers
[14:04] <solotim> :)
[14:04] <solotim> thank u all
[14:04] <solotim> bye
[14:04] <vidd> solotim,
[14:04] <vidd> hold up
[14:04] <solotim> yes,
[14:04] <solotim> what
[14:05] <vidd> can you at least add to that post the contents of that file?
[14:05] <vidd> or maybe pastebin it?
[14:05] <klopapier> hey back again
[14:06] <klopapier> thanks TheSheep
[14:06] <vidd> im assuming that it worked for you
[14:06] <klopapier> ur tips worked fine
[14:06] <solotim> sorry, I don´t understand your meanning,  I just followed the guide of that post, downloaded the conf file it offered and substituted my local xorg.conf
[14:06] <vidd> yes
[14:06] <PurplePlus> :)
[14:06] <vidd> i would much like to see the contents of that file
[14:06] <solotim> :)
[14:06] <solotim> paste here?
[14:06] <vidd> but im not going to register to a site
[14:06] <solotim> may I?
[14:06] <klopapier> now i just need a cool list of repositories
[14:06] <solotim> oh, I see.
[14:06] <vidd> !pastebin
[14:06] <klopapier> were can i find them
[14:07] <klopapier> ?
[14:07] <vidd> solotim, i want to make sure that the instructions dont have "import rootkit" in it somewhere =]
[14:10] <klopapier> where can i find a cool list of repositories?
[14:10] <vidd> klopapier, define "cool"
[14:10] <solotim> http://paste.ubuntu.com/94302/
[14:10] <klopapier> or is it enough if i just uncomment those commented in the sources.list
[14:10] <solotim> done
[14:10] <klopapier> i dont know
[14:10] <klopapier> with lots of useful apps
[14:10]  * vidd thinks that the basic main, universe and multiverse repos are just "cool" as i need
[14:11] <klopapier> xDD
[14:11] <klopapier> ok
[14:11] <ramrod> just look for apps youd like to use
[14:11] <vidd> solotim, let me review that b4 ya go?
[14:11] <ramrod> when somethings not in your repos add the required
[14:11] <klopapier> but there are some packages it doesnt find
[14:11] <klopapier> VLC
[14:11] <klopapier> opera browser
[14:12] <klopapier> for starters
[14:12] <solotim> well, :) I have to go. I´ll come here tomorrow the same time
[14:12] <solotim> see ya
[14:12] <vidd> i wont be here
[14:12] <vidd> there is a lot of junk in that file
[14:13] <solotim> oh a!?
[14:13] <solotim> but it works
[14:13] <solotim> why
[14:13] <vidd> and you are now locked to only 1 sceen resolution
[14:13] <solotim> i dont care, since it works
[14:13] <solotim> this is laptop
[14:13] <klopapier> what about those "canonical" and "backports" repos?
[14:13] <solotim> i can only in this resolution.
[14:13] <vidd> if your fine with bloat and limitations, then fine
[14:13] <klopapier> worth to uncomment
[14:14] <klopapier> ?
[14:14] <solotim> vidd, what´s your suggestion then
[14:14] <solotim> it will be appreciated
[14:14] <vidd> remove line 50, and 55-84......
[14:15] <vidd> you should then have all resolutions your display and monitor can support
[14:15] <solotim> ok. I´ll try tomorrow. Thank you very much!!  I´ll remember u
[14:16] <solotim> I really have to go. it´s time to do sth
[14:16] <solotim> bye
[14:16] <vidd> also...the keyboard and mouse are configured by HAL
[14:16] <vidd> so you dont really need them either
[14:16] <vidd> other than that, the file is safe to use
[14:19] <klopapier> what about those "canonical" and "backports" repos?
[14:19] <klopapier> worth to uncomment?
[14:20] <vidd> klopapier, didnt you just say that b4?
[14:20] <klopapier> yeah but nobody answered
[14:20] <klopapier> :s
[14:20] <vidd> and nobody new came into the room....
[14:21] <vidd> they didnt have an answer b4....why would they have one now?
[14:21] <klopapier> maybe others in the room who weren't payin attention the fisrt time were now...
[14:21] <klopapier> dont know...
[14:21] <vidd> i personally never bother with backports, and i dont have any idea if i would trust a "cononical" repo...so IDK
[14:21] <klopapier> just u and solo were talkin
[14:22] <klopapier> ok
[14:22] <klopapier> thanks
[14:22] <vidd> look at it this way....
[14:23] <vidd> backports add "new" apps to "old" versions
[14:23] <klopapier> ok
[14:23] <vidd> for example....
[14:23] <klopapier> just read in operas website
[14:23] <klopapier> "If you are using an Ubuntu-based distribution, you can get Opera directly from Canonical's commercial repository."
[14:23] <vidd> after 7.10's release, FF came out with version 3
[14:24] <vidd> if you wanted FF3 in 7.10, you had to compile it or get a deb....
[14:24] <vidd> then, it was added to backports
[14:24] <klopapier> i c
[14:25] <klopapier> ...whats meant with "commercial repository" ... do i have to pay for installing packages?
[14:25] <klopapier> hows that
[14:25] <vidd> dunno
[14:26] <klopapier> hope not
[14:26] <klopapier> i'll try
[14:26] <vidd> like i said...IDK if i'd trust that
[14:27] <vidd> multiverse is maintained by ppl looking out for ppl....
[14:27] <vidd> dunno if id use a repo that is maintained by ppl looking out for corprate
[14:28] <vidd> =]
[14:45] <Saad1> How do I change the configuration for xkb layouts?
[14:45] <Saad1> in Ubuntu 8.10
[14:46] <vidd> Saad1, you can add the keyboard layout plugin to your panels or go into the settings manager
[14:49] <Saad1> What if I want to change the settings for all users. Like in Ubuntu 8.04 it could be done by editing xorg.conf.
[14:50] <vidd> Saad1, i would imagine you could do it the same as you did it in 8.04
[14:50] <Saad1> I have tried editing /etc/default/console-setup but it did not help.
[14:50] <Saad1> There is no keyboard section in xorg.conf
[14:50] <vidd> so....add it
[14:50] <Saad1> I do not know what to add. Can you help?
[14:51] <vidd> if you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" it will walk you thru it
[14:52] <vidd> its the config tool for xorg
[14:52] <vidd> and will add the lines you need for you
[14:53] <vidd> since i never needed to change my keyboard layout, i dont know exactly what lines should and should not been important
[14:54] <vidd> and i dont want to miss something and leave you with a borked system
[14:54] <vidd> =]
[14:54] <Saad1> :) Let's try
[14:55] <Saad1> The release notes say: "The X.Org configuration file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf) still has InputDevice entries for the mouse and keyboard, but they are ignored now because input-hotplug is used. The keyboard settings now come from /etc/default/console-setup; to change them please use sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup. After that, HAL and X need to be restarted (e.g., by rebooting your system)."
[14:56] <vidd> then run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup"
[14:56] <vidd> then reboot your machine
[14:57] <Saad1> How do I restart HAL without rebooting? I am currently using live CD to make sure I am ready to install 8.10
[14:58] <vidd> Saad1, so far as i know....you dont
[14:58] <vidd> and when you install, you will be prompted to set the keyboard layout....
[14:59] <vidd> im surprised the live cd didnt prompt you on boot
[14:59] <vidd> you can TRY "sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart
[14:59] <Saad1> It prompted on boot but the keyboard layout I want to use is a custom one.
[15:00] <Saad1> I know how to install but currently am not sure how to enable it.
[15:00] <Saad1> OK. I am trying.
[15:04] <Saad1> It worked. Thanks vidd.
[15:05] <vidd> np
[15:51] <Guest92119> anyone know how to turn on wobbly windows? intrepid - xfce
[15:52] <TheSheep> !compiz
[15:52] <Guest92119> i have installed the ati drivers
[15:53] <Guest92119> thanks
[17:23] <william56> do i need to do more than copy the directory packages are stored in and run apt-get install (packages) to install downloaded packages from one copy of xubuntu x86 to another?
[17:31] <Cowie`> Can someone explain to me why Xubuntu is showing my partitions / mounts on the desktop? And maybe tell me how to get rid of them D:
[17:33] <slow-motion> hi
[17:34] <Cowie`> Hello
[17:34] <slow-motion> hi Cowie`
[17:35] <TheSheep> Cowie`: settings->desktop->second tab
[17:36] <Cowie`> TheSheep: If I do Settings > Desktop settings > Behaviour
[17:37] <Cowie`> Then edit desktop items, the only one to rid of it is the None setting - Which displays nothing then D:
[17:39] <Cowie`> Any other ideas TheSheep ?
[17:44] <JacobS> Cowie do you have the option checkbox disabled Show icons for mounted devices?
[17:45] <Cowie`> Jacob - I get no option for that :\
[17:45] <JacobS> What is your version of Xubuntu
[17:45] <Cowie`> Oh wait sorry, all the options aren't ticked JacobS
[17:48] <JacobS> Show icons > for removable devices is not here?
[17:48] <Cowie`> removable devices is not ticked JacobS
[17:49] <JacobS> Do you use a old version of Xubuntu, is this present in 8.10
[17:50] <Cowie`> An only version - So I'll upgrade it all to 8.1
[17:50] <Cowie`> I'll be back if it still persists at showing the files D:
[20:15] <tingle> the wifi led on my notebooks blinks 24/7 when it has connection to a signal. can i tweak it so its just on or off? its just on in xp and ubuntu
[20:16] <crimsun> if you modify the source code, sure
[20:38] <craigbass1976> 192.168.0.3:/home/craig/        /home/craig/remote      nfs     defaults          Any reason why this entry in /etc/fstab won't mount up the drive?  It worked before I wiped this laptop (had regular ubuntu on it, now it's clean xub)
[20:38] <craigbass1976> And I can't find in logs where the mounting failed
[20:38] <craigbass1976> On either box
[20:38] <Kepler> Is the NFS daemon on?
[20:40] <craigbass1976> Should it be on my laptop?  It is on the server.
[20:41] <craigbass1976> I probably didn't even install it, see nothing in /etc/init.d
[20:42] <craigbass1976> This appears to be the case... Installing appropriate packages.  Duh...
[20:43] <craigbass1976> And there's my share, ladies and gentlemen.  Thanks a bunch.  Too bad OpenOffice files still don't work over nfs...
[20:51] <Kepler> lol
[21:36] <slow-motion> n8
[21:40] <linuxlerner> i have installed tightvnc package, and i am trying to connect to the machine from a windows machine running ultr@vnc . i am having problems, can anyone offer any advice?
[21:40] <forces> saluton
[21:40] <linuxlerner> hello
[21:42] <linuxlerner> i do not know how to connect to xubuntu:1
[21:49] <forces> linuxlerner, conect what?
[21:50] <linuxlerner> i am trying to connect via vnc to my xubuntu machine
[21:51] <linuxlerner> hen i start tightvncserver it says the display is xubuntu:1
[21:52] <arualavi> I think that VNC servers are listening on port 5900
[21:53] <arualavi> so you should be able to connect to your vnc server at: xubuntu_ip_adress:5900
[21:53] <linuxlerner> hmm
[21:53] <william56> http://paste.ubuntu.com/94581/ i'm trying to mount a partition on the hard drive that xubuntu is installed on.. any advice?
[21:54] <linuxlerner> it wont connect
[21:54] <linuxlerner> just says failed to connect
[21:54] <linuxlerner> let me look at the tightvnc loge
[21:54] <linuxlerner> log file
[21:55] <william56> anyone think mounting that partition using -o force could cause problems?
[21:56] <linuxlerner> it was port 5901
[21:57]  * linuxlerner goes to google for configuration
[22:05] <linuxlerner> ok well i can connect via vnc, but i cant do anything
[22:05] <linuxlerner> just get a pixely screen and crosshares
[22:07] <linuxlerner> any ideas?
[22:09] <linuxlerner> i have looked at this but there is no other config info there https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[22:09] <linuxlerner> for tightvncserver
[22:23] <linuxlerner> anyone help with tightvncserver configuration
[22:47] <asdf-> anyone have any links how to speed up xubuntu?
[22:47] <asdf-> everything im finding on google relates to gentoo
[22:49] <TheSheep> asdf-: that's one way :)
[22:49] <asdf-> yes, but do you know of any tutorials geared for xubuntu/ubuntu?
[22:49] <TheSheep> asdf-: actually I think it's the simplest way: use  faster distro
[22:50] <TheSheep> asdf-: everything that could be done without losing features was already done
[22:51] <asdf-> ok, how do i disable features?
[22:52] <TheSheep> depends on whic ones you want to disable
[22:52] <TheSheep> you can stop the cups daemon if you don't need printing, for example
[23:01] <asdf-> yes, i already did that one
[23:01] <asdf-> i want to disable dialup too
[23:02] <asdf-> the ones that startup are in /etc/init.d/ ? which ones do i must have enabled?