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NCommanderScottK, Riddell, ping05:01
ScottKNCommander: Pong05:31
NCommanderScottK, feel like sponsoring kdegraphics?05:32
ScottKNCommander: Sure.  If it's going to work.05:36
NCommanderBuilt it fully on ARM and amd6405:36
ScottKNCommander: OK.  Debdiff me or something.05:37
NCommanderScottK, https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdegraphics/ubuntu05:37
ScottKGood enough05:37
* NCommander is slowly working towards a KDE on ARM future :-)05:39
ScottKNCommander: Question for you: In the 2nd chunk of the patch, why double the first two appearances of radius and not the last?05:44
NCommanderGCC interprets 1. to be a double05:45
NCommanderIt was only necessary to cast the qreal05:45
NCommanderoh05:45
NCommanderwait, second hulk05:45
NCommanderScottK, look more closely05:46
NCommanderScottK, I'm only changing the casts in the qMin function05:46
ScottKOK.05:46
NCommander(qMin is a C++ template, and templates require all types to be extactly the same, normally there is some give with float/double implicate casting)05:46
* ScottK looks again.05:47
ScottKI think I vaguely get that.05:48
NCommanderTBH, any other compiler would accept it05:49
NCommanderGCC is just being braindead05:49
NCommander(normally floats will be implicately casted into doubles if a function takes only doubles)05:49
NCommanderThis implicate cast isn't happening however when the funciton is a template, and one of the arguments is a float, and another is a double05:50
NCommanderScottK, I'm probably going to lie down soonish, still need me assuming your test build successeds?06:30
ScottKNCommander: It just finished.  I'll be uploading momentarily.06:31
* NCommander waves flag06:31
ScottKNCommander: Uploaded.  Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu.06:35
NCommanderyay06:35
ScottKNCommander: You're pushing this patch upstream, like the others, right?06:42
NCommanderYeah, I plan to file a bug06:43
ScottKOK.  It'd be great to get these into 4.2 before it branches to 4.3....06:44
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gnomefreakwhat replaced libqt3-mt in jaunty?10:40
Riddelllibqt4 ?10:40
Riddelllibqt3-mt is still there10:40
gnomefreaki didnt see libqt4 but there were libqt4-ruby*10:43
Riddellthere's lots of libqt4 packages10:44
gnomefreakyeah i saw i meant to say libqt4* but none had mt10:45
Riddellthe -mt just means its compiled with multithreading which was optional in Qt 3, Qt 4 doesn't have it as an option10:45
gnomefreakah10:47
RiddellSime!10:48
Simehi, and merry christmas.10:48
Simei just got back from a snowboarding vacation.10:49
Sime(minor) broken left shoulder.10:49
Riddellerk10:49
Simeat least a couple of weeks of one handed typing10:50
Riddellwhere was that?  I don't remember .nl being great for snowboarding holidays10:50
Sime+physio10:50
Sime.fr10:50
Simealpes10:50
Simegreat snow + weather10:50
Simealmost got thru without probs,10:51
Simeall well in K-land?10:52
RiddellNCommander got pykde compiling on ARM10:55
Simehey! cool10:55
Simehas he just got patches?10:55
Riddellit took him a while, he probably e-mailed you begging for help during his more desperate moments :)10:55
Simei had already talked to him before xmas10:56
Riddellpatches are in python-qt4 and kde4bindings https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-qt4 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4bindings11:00
Simeare you guys using 4,2+patches for your .debs?11:01
Riddellyes11:01
Simecool, once it has been in the field for a while, we can commit on 4.2 branch.11:03
RiddellSime: remind us again the state of pykde and kcontrol modules?11:42
SimeRiddell: should work in 4.2. there is even example code.11:56
RiddellSime: ooh?  where?12:50
chris062689Hello!13:12
Riddellhi chris06268913:16
chris062689What's up?13:16
chris062689I just wanted to wish everyone a late xmas, and to wish you guys good luck on the KDE 4.2 upcoming release, hope you guys get the packages out quick, and they'll be nice and stable :D13:17
SimeRiddell: /trunk/KDE/kdebindings/python/pykde4/tools/kcmodule_example13:44
seelewelcome back to work everyone :)13:51
JontheEchidnaRiddell: gtk-qt-engine patch here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/95091/13:53
JontheEchidna\o everyone13:53
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JontheEchidnayou were right, most gtk-qt-engine problems are tiny, hidden bugs that cause highly noticable problems13:54
JontheEchidnaRiddell: I've also just emailed the patch to the author14:03
* jussi01 waves to JontheEchidna14:05
JontheEchidnabtw, Kubuntu 8.10 is very fast on my dad's old14:07
JontheEchidnaDell Latitude D60014:07
JontheEchidnafaster than my computer14:07
JontheEchidnanvidia graphics on linux ftl :(14:13
Tonio_hi there :)14:29
nhandlerHey Tonio_14:29
Tonio_nhandler: hi !14:30
seeleTonio_: hey, did colomar (Thomas) contact you about kpackagekit?  i think he was having a hard time getting it installed14:30
seeleTonio_: he is one of my usability interns and will help me review it14:31
Tonio_seele: don't remember getting an email from him14:31
seeleTonio_: hmm.. ok14:32
Tonio_seele: I'm currently moving to my new appartment, and everything will be finished on saturday, including getting internet at home :)14:32
Tonio_seele: I'm unavailable since then14:32
seeleTonio_: cool.. good luck moving14:32
Tonio_seele: lemme look :)14:32
Tonio_seele: got it14:33
Tonio_seele: I really have no time to check this with him..... I'll respond him about that, and we'll do the review on january :)14:34
Tonio_seele: thanks for reminding me :)14:35
Tonio_seele: appart from that, how life going ?14:35
seeleTonio_: good.. this past week was kindof slow because of the holiday.. i've got a ton of work to catch up on this week14:46
seeleTonio_: although most of it is open source stuff so that is good :)14:46
Tonio_seele: great ;)14:56
nixternalhowdy Tonio_!14:58
jpdsTonio_: You going to FOSDEM by any chance?14:58
Tonio_jpds: it's beeing discussed within my company atm, that's possible, indeed :)14:59
Tonio_nixternal: heya !!!14:59
* Tonio_ wonders why is moving to a new appartment is that complicated.....14:59
Tonio_so many phone calls to place...14:59
jpdsTonio_: Ah cool. Goo luck with the moving.15:00
Tonio_jpds: thanks ;)15:00
Tonio_seele: just emailed thomas, packages will ready within an hour for intrepid on my ppa, so that he can test...15:25
seeleTonio_: sweet15:34
* seele hugs Tonio_ 15:35
jussi01seele: did you publish that quassel thing yet? :)15:35
seelejussi01: getting to it, just got off a phone call15:35
jussi01:)15:35
seeleack16:00
seeledid we decide when the next kubuntu meeting will be?16:39
nhandlerYeah,Saturday January16:40
nhandler3 2009 at 19:00 UTC16:40
nhandlerapachelogger sent out an email about it16:41
jjesseseele: january 3 at 19:00 UTC16:41
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NCommanderDown to to four FTBFS in kde17:38
cbrthat's strange.. powerdevil only handles dpms stuff for me after a suspend17:50
cbrat first boot it just doesnt17:50
NCommandercbr, I think dpms only goes when the module is loaded17:51
NCommanderMaybe powerdevil isn't loading during startup17:51
cbrit is imo17:53
cbryou mean the kde module?17:53
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seeleNew blog post: Expert Review of Quassel 0.3.1 http://tinyurl.com/75aevt18:12
* seele looks for lunch18:12
NCommanderDamn it18:16
NCommanderScottK, your entries to P-a-s for HPPA broke the ARM build partially, the cli bits are not installable18:17
jpdsseele: Nice work.18:19
cbrwhat does the "Keep window thumbnails: [Only for shown windows|Always|Never]" mean in desktop effects config dialog?18:20
EgShi there :)18:54
EgSseele: I just finished reading your review of quassel. May I pm your for some questions?18:54
=== jussio1 is now known as jussi01
codeclumppacman -S kde19:19
Tukonseele, nice work on that quassel UI review19:22
Tukonspot on observations and easily actionable fixes19:22
Tukonit'd be nice to have a qt4 irc client for jaunty19:22
EgSmost of the issues should be fixable. the reason for the lack of a toolbar is simply the lack of icons, meaning we need help on that one19:28
jussi01EgS: did we have a lack of response from the oxygen guys? or?19:34
TukonEgS, thanks for all your work making it happen, seems that you're very involved with quassel development19:34
EgSTukon: thanks :) It's always nice to see people using quassel. and even the consideration for kubuntu is a great opportunity for us :)19:36
EgSjussi01: afaik Sput wanted to talk to them... but dunno what came up there19:36
jussi01EgS: I just noticed this: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Projects/Oxygen/Missing_Icons19:39
EgSinteressting... but I guess that's for pure kde apps19:40
jussi01I thought so at first, but are we not a "KDE4 related project"?  (Additionally it will help developers to make requests for icons that they need for KDE4 related projects. )19:41
EgSyeah especially with the kde integration sput was working on recently, we probably can call it KDE related19:42
jussi01EgS: there is also a section: Other 3rd party Application Icons19:42
JontheEchidnaCheck it, jockey KCM ui in python: http://imagebin.ca/view/kPt-9Ru.html20:04
JontheEchidnain 25 lines of code not counting the .ui file :P20:06
Simegood work20:10
JontheEchidnadoesn't do anything yet, heh20:21
JontheEchidnaSime: Thanks for the example20:22
LaserJockRiddell: you're assigned to bug #24449 , I'm kind of not sure why as it's a Gtk/Gnome app. Is that a mistake?20:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 24449 in kino "Opening a saving dialog crashes kino, but compiled with g++-3.4 works(all this propably amd64 specific)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2444920:32
RiddellLaserJock: looks like a mistake20:45
LaserJockRiddell: heaven forbid a gtk app starts with a "k" ;-)20:46
LaserJockRiddell: want me to unassign you?20:46
seeleEgS: feel free to give me questions20:47
RiddellLaserJock: go ahead21:06
NCommanderRiddell, in the mood to sponsor something?21:39
RiddellNCommander: mibby, at the wrong computer just now but I could be persuaded to move21:40
NCommanderWell, I still have to do a non-ports test build21:40
NCommanderthat won't take long so probably 30ish minutes21:41
RiddellNCommander: did you talk with Sime about pykde and ARM?21:42
NCommanderYup21:42
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ScottK-palmNCommander: Have you looked at kdeartwork on armel yet?22:08
NCommanderNot yet22:12
ScottK-palmOK.  I just did a retry on it and it failed again.  All I had was the web version of the build log as it happened.22:13
ScottK-palmI missed the actual failure, but did see at least some kvetching about qreal type alignment earlier in the build.22:14
ScottK-palmNCommander: I'll be back home tonight and so in a better position to do sponsoring.22:15
NCommanderok22:17
NCommanderRiddell, kdeaccessibility changes in bazaar22:27

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