[05:01] <NCommander> ScottK, Riddell, ping
[05:31] <ScottK> NCommander: Pong
[05:32] <NCommander> ScottK, feel like sponsoring kdegraphics?
[05:36] <ScottK> NCommander: Sure.  If it's going to work.
[05:36] <NCommander> Built it fully on ARM and amd64
[05:37] <ScottK> NCommander: OK.  Debdiff me or something.
[05:37] <NCommander> ScottK, https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdegraphics/ubuntu
[05:37] <ScottK> Good enough
[05:39]  * NCommander is slowly working towards a KDE on ARM future :-)
[05:44] <ScottK> NCommander: Question for you: In the 2nd chunk of the patch, why double the first two appearances of radius and not the last?
[05:45] <NCommander> GCC interprets 1. to be a double
[05:45] <NCommander> It was only necessary to cast the qreal
[05:45] <NCommander> oh
[05:45] <NCommander> wait, second hulk
[05:46] <NCommander> ScottK, look more closely
[05:46] <NCommander> ScottK, I'm only changing the casts in the qMin function
[05:46] <ScottK> OK.
[05:46] <NCommander> (qMin is a C++ template, and templates require all types to be extactly the same, normally there is some give with float/double implicate casting)
[05:47]  * ScottK looks again.
[05:48] <ScottK> I think I vaguely get that.
[05:49] <NCommander> TBH, any other compiler would accept it
[05:49] <NCommander> GCC is just being braindead
[05:49] <NCommander> (normally floats will be implicately casted into doubles if a function takes only doubles)
[05:50] <NCommander> This implicate cast isn't happening however when the funciton is a template, and one of the arguments is a float, and another is a double
[06:30] <NCommander> ScottK, I'm probably going to lie down soonish, still need me assuming your test build successeds?
[06:31] <ScottK> NCommander: It just finished.  I'll be uploading momentarily.
[06:31]  * NCommander waves flag
[06:35] <ScottK> NCommander: Uploaded.  Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu.
[06:35] <NCommander> yay
[06:42] <ScottK> NCommander: You're pushing this patch upstream, like the others, right?
[06:43] <NCommander> Yeah, I plan to file a bug
[06:44] <ScottK> OK.  It'd be great to get these into 4.2 before it branches to 4.3....
[10:40] <gnomefreak> what replaced libqt3-mt in jaunty?
[10:40] <Riddell> libqt4 ?
[10:40] <Riddell> libqt3-mt is still there
[10:43] <gnomefreak> i didnt see libqt4 but there were libqt4-ruby*
[10:44] <Riddell> there's lots of libqt4 packages
[10:45] <gnomefreak> yeah i saw i meant to say libqt4* but none had mt
[10:45] <Riddell> the -mt just means its compiled with multithreading which was optional in Qt 3, Qt 4 doesn't have it as an option
[10:47] <gnomefreak> ah
[10:48] <Riddell> Sime!
[10:48] <Sime> hi, and merry christmas.
[10:49] <Sime> i just got back from a snowboarding vacation.
[10:49] <Sime> (minor) broken left shoulder.
[10:49] <Riddell> erk
[10:50] <Sime> at least a couple of weeks of one handed typing
[10:50] <Riddell> where was that?  I don't remember .nl being great for snowboarding holidays
[10:50] <Sime> +physio
[10:50] <Sime> .fr
[10:50] <Sime> alpes
[10:50] <Sime> great snow + weather
[10:51] <Sime> almost got thru without probs,
[10:52] <Sime> all well in K-land?
[10:55] <Riddell> NCommander got pykde compiling on ARM
[10:55] <Sime> hey! cool
[10:55] <Sime> has he just got patches?
[10:55] <Riddell> it took him a while, he probably e-mailed you begging for help during his more desperate moments :)
[10:56] <Sime> i had already talked to him before xmas
[11:00] <Riddell> patches are in python-qt4 and kde4bindings https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-qt4 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4bindings
[11:01] <Sime> are you guys using 4,2+patches for your .debs?
[11:01] <Riddell> yes
[11:03] <Sime> cool, once it has been in the field for a while, we can commit on 4.2 branch.
[11:42] <Riddell> Sime: remind us again the state of pykde and kcontrol modules?
[11:56] <Sime> Riddell: should work in 4.2. there is even example code.
[12:50] <Riddell> Sime: ooh?  where?
[13:12] <chris062689> Hello!
[13:16] <Riddell> hi chris062689
[13:16] <chris062689> What's up?
[13:17] <chris062689> I just wanted to wish everyone a late xmas, and to wish you guys good luck on the KDE 4.2 upcoming release, hope you guys get the packages out quick, and they'll be nice and stable :D
[13:44] <Sime> Riddell: /trunk/KDE/kdebindings/python/pykde4/tools/kcmodule_example
[13:51] <seele> welcome back to work everyone :)
[13:53] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: gtk-qt-engine patch here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/95091/
[13:53] <JontheEchidna> \o everyone
[13:54] <JontheEchidna> you were right, most gtk-qt-engine problems are tiny, hidden bugs that cause highly noticable problems
[14:03] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: I've also just emailed the patch to the author
[14:05]  * jussi01 waves to JontheEchidna
[14:07] <JontheEchidna> btw, Kubuntu 8.10 is very fast on my dad's old
[14:07] <JontheEchidna> Dell Latitude D600
[14:07] <JontheEchidna> faster than my computer
[14:13] <JontheEchidna> nvidia graphics on linux ftl :(
[14:29] <Tonio_> hi there :)
[14:29] <nhandler> Hey Tonio_
[14:30] <Tonio_> nhandler: hi !
[14:30] <seele> Tonio_: hey, did colomar (Thomas) contact you about kpackagekit?  i think he was having a hard time getting it installed
[14:31] <seele> Tonio_: he is one of my usability interns and will help me review it
[14:31] <Tonio_> seele: don't remember getting an email from him
[14:32] <seele> Tonio_: hmm.. ok
[14:32] <Tonio_> seele: I'm currently moving to my new appartment, and everything will be finished on saturday, including getting internet at home :)
[14:32] <Tonio_> seele: I'm unavailable since then
[14:32] <seele> Tonio_: cool.. good luck moving
[14:32] <Tonio_> seele: lemme look :)
[14:33] <Tonio_> seele: got it
[14:34] <Tonio_> seele: I really have no time to check this with him..... I'll respond him about that, and we'll do the review on january :)
[14:35] <Tonio_> seele: thanks for reminding me :)
[14:35] <Tonio_> seele: appart from that, how life going ?
[14:46] <seele> Tonio_: good.. this past week was kindof slow because of the holiday.. i've got a ton of work to catch up on this week
[14:46] <seele> Tonio_: although most of it is open source stuff so that is good :)
[14:56] <Tonio_> seele: great ;)
[14:58] <nixternal> howdy Tonio_!
[14:58] <jpds> Tonio_: You going to FOSDEM by any chance?
[14:59] <Tonio_> jpds: it's beeing discussed within my company atm, that's possible, indeed :)
[14:59] <Tonio_> nixternal: heya !!!
[14:59]  * Tonio_ wonders why is moving to a new appartment is that complicated.....
[14:59] <Tonio_> so many phone calls to place...
[15:00] <jpds> Tonio_: Ah cool. Goo luck with the moving.
[15:00] <Tonio_> jpds: thanks ;)
[15:25] <Tonio_> seele: just emailed thomas, packages will ready within an hour for intrepid on my ppa, so that he can test...
[15:34] <seele> Tonio_: sweet
[15:35]  * seele hugs Tonio_ 
[15:35] <jussi01> seele: did you publish that quassel thing yet? :)
[15:35] <seele> jussi01: getting to it, just got off a phone call
[15:35] <jussi01> :)
[16:00] <seele> ack
[16:39] <seele> did we decide when the next kubuntu meeting will be?
[16:40] <nhandler> Yeah,Saturday January
[16:40] <nhandler> 3 2009 at 19:00 UTC
[16:41] <nhandler> apachelogger sent out an email about it
[16:41] <jjesse> seele: january 3 at 19:00 UTC
[17:38] <NCommander> Down to to four FTBFS in kde
[17:50] <cbr> that's strange.. powerdevil only handles dpms stuff for me after a suspend
[17:50] <cbr> at first boot it just doesnt
[17:51] <NCommander> cbr, I think dpms only goes when the module is loaded
[17:51] <NCommander> Maybe powerdevil isn't loading during startup
[17:53] <cbr> it is imo
[17:53] <cbr> you mean the kde module?
[18:10] <seele> ~kubotu twitter help
[18:10] <kubotu> incorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help twitter'
[18:11] <seele> ~kubotu: help twitter
[18:11] <kubotu> twitter status [nick] => show nick's (or your) status, use 'twitter friends status [nick]' to also show the friends' timeline | twitter update [status] => updates your status on twitter | twitter identify [username] [password] => ties your nick to your twitter username and password | twitter actions [on|off] => enable/disable twitting of actions (/me does ...)
[18:12] <seele> New blog post: Expert Review of Quassel 0.3.1 http://tinyurl.com/75aevt
[18:12]  * seele looks for lunch
[18:16] <NCommander> Damn it
[18:17] <NCommander> ScottK, your entries to P-a-s for HPPA broke the ARM build partially, the cli bits are not installable
[18:19] <jpds> seele: Nice work.
[18:20] <cbr> what does the "Keep window thumbnails: [Only for shown windows|Always|Never]" mean in desktop effects config dialog?
[18:54] <EgS> hi there :)
[18:54] <EgS> seele: I just finished reading your review of quassel. May I pm your for some questions?
[19:19] <codeclump> pacman -S kde
[19:22] <Tukon> seele, nice work on that quassel UI review
[19:22] <Tukon> spot on observations and easily actionable fixes
[19:22] <Tukon> it'd be nice to have a qt4 irc client for jaunty
[19:28] <EgS> most of the issues should be fixable. the reason for the lack of a toolbar is simply the lack of icons, meaning we need help on that one
[19:34] <jussi01> EgS: did we have a lack of response from the oxygen guys? or?
[19:34] <Tukon> EgS, thanks for all your work making it happen, seems that you're very involved with quassel development
[19:36] <EgS> Tukon: thanks :) It's always nice to see people using quassel. and even the consideration for kubuntu is a great opportunity for us :)
[19:36] <EgS> jussi01: afaik Sput wanted to talk to them... but dunno what came up there
[19:39] <jussi01> EgS: I just noticed this: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Projects/Oxygen/Missing_Icons
[19:40] <EgS> interessting... but I guess that's for pure kde apps
[19:41] <jussi01> I thought so at first, but are we not a "KDE4 related project"?  (Additionally it will help developers to make requests for icons that they need for KDE4 related projects. )
[19:42] <EgS> yeah especially with the kde integration sput was working on recently, we probably can call it KDE related
[19:42] <jussi01> EgS: there is also a section: Other 3rd party Application Icons
[20:04] <JontheEchidna> Check it, jockey KCM ui in python: http://imagebin.ca/view/kPt-9Ru.html
[20:06] <JontheEchidna> in 25 lines of code not counting the .ui file :P
[20:10] <Sime> good work
[20:21] <JontheEchidna> doesn't do anything yet, heh
[20:22] <JontheEchidna> Sime: Thanks for the example
[20:32] <LaserJock> Riddell: you're assigned to bug #24449 , I'm kind of not sure why as it's a Gtk/Gnome app. Is that a mistake?
[20:45] <Riddell> LaserJock: looks like a mistake
[20:46] <LaserJock> Riddell: heaven forbid a gtk app starts with a "k" ;-)
[20:46] <LaserJock> Riddell: want me to unassign you?
[20:47] <seele> EgS: feel free to give me questions
[21:06] <Riddell> LaserJock: go ahead
[21:39] <NCommander> Riddell, in the mood to sponsor something?
[21:40] <Riddell> NCommander: mibby, at the wrong computer just now but I could be persuaded to move
[21:40] <NCommander> Well, I still have to do a non-ports test build
[21:41] <NCommander> that won't take long so probably 30ish minutes
[21:42] <Riddell> NCommander: did you talk with Sime about pykde and ARM?
[21:42] <NCommander> Yup
[22:08] <ScottK-palm> NCommander: Have you looked at kdeartwork on armel yet?
[22:12] <NCommander> Not yet
[22:13] <ScottK-palm> OK.  I just did a retry on it and it failed again.  All I had was the web version of the build log as it happened.
[22:14] <ScottK-palm> I missed the actual failure, but did see at least some kvetching about qreal type alignment earlier in the build.
[22:15] <ScottK-palm> NCommander: I'll be back home tonight and so in a better position to do sponsoring.
[22:17] <NCommander> ok
[22:27] <NCommander> Riddell, kdeaccessibility changes in bazaar