[03:25] <tgm4883_laptop> I am trying to build something on my PPA for hardy, a build dependency I have set is liblame-dev, which is in hardy (and everything before hardy).  But for some reason I am getting a dependency wait on liblame-dev.  The only thing different about my ppa is that I have set a dependency for -backports (because I need debhelper >=7).  AFAICT, liblame-dev is not in -backports.  Is that the issue or could it be something else?
[03:26] <Hobbsee> whcih package are you building?
[03:27] <tgm4883_laptop> fuppes
[03:27] <Hobbsee> what's the PPA address?
[03:27] <tgm4883_laptop> https://edge.launchpad.net/~tgm4883/+archive
[03:27] <tgm4883_laptop> i've just removed the -backports and told i386 to retry
[03:28] <wgrant> That's probably due to an undocumented quirk.
[03:28] <Hobbsee> wgrant: the not building against multiverse?
[03:28] <wgrant> Any pocket selection other than the default will select only the components allowed for that package in Ubuntu.
[03:29] <wgrant> So if it wasn't in multiverse, it won't be able to find liblame-dev.
[03:30] <tgm4883_laptop> so the issue is liblame-dev not being in multiverse?
[03:30] <Hobbsee> no, it is in multiverse
[03:30] <Hobbsee> the issue is that your package isn't.
[03:30] <tgm4883_laptop> or fuppes needs to be set for multiverse
[03:30] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[03:30] <wgrant> And there's no way to do that.
[03:31] <wgrant> So you'll need to use 'Default', not 'Backports', until this is fixed.
[03:31] <tgm4883_laptop> yea the svn checkout had everything already set for debian, i've just been fixing dependency issues
[03:31] <wgrant> I discussed it with cprov just before everybody went on holiday.
[03:31] <tgm4883_laptop> ah ok
[03:31] <tgm4883_laptop> so i'll have to get debhelper 7 into my ppa for that to work then
[03:31] <tgm4883_laptop> since that is in backports
[03:32] <wgrant> Yep.
[03:32] <wgrant> That's actually easy now.
[03:32] <wgrant> You can copy it directly.
[03:32]  * wgrant finds the link.
[03:32] <Hobbsee> wgrant: you can't override it the old way, via debian/control?
[03:33] <wgrant> Hobbsee: No, it's overridden to main at upload-time.
[03:33] <Hobbsee> oh, lovely
[03:33]  * Hobbsee mutters something about the feasibility of the opensuse build system, and wondering if it changes it's formats so often, and documents it's changes when it does.
[03:33] <wgrant> tgm4883_laptop: You can copy (binaries and all) from https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary?field.name_filter=debhelper&field.status_filter=published or so.
[03:34] <Hobbsee> bah.  i can't write valid english today, it appears
[03:34] <wgrant> It has overridden to main for more than a year now.
[03:34] <Hobbsee> wow, that long?
[03:35]  * Hobbsee assumed it was possible to re-override, when they re-introduced the ogre model
[03:35] <tgm4883_laptop> wgrant, awesome, i'll copy that over
[03:35] <wgrant> ogre-model was always there, it was just not configurable.
[03:35] <wgrant> Now it's configurable and they added an extra quirk just for us to have fun with and debug.
[03:36] <tgm4883_laptop> not to bug you guys too much, but when is multiple ppa's coming out?
[03:36] <Hobbsee> i thought it was gone, as everything went to 'main' by default?
[03:36] <wgrant> I'd like an extra checkbox under the pocket selection widgets to disable component overriding and enable components in ogremodel.
[03:36] <Hobbsee> tgm4883_laptop: we don't work for them.  We just do some community support, and figure out what they've changed, and not documented, when people bring in build failures that are obtuse.
[03:36] <wgrant> tgm4883_laptop: Well, neither of us are LP devs, but it might well be there next month.
[03:37] <tgm4883_laptop> awesome
[03:37] <tgm4883_laptop> I remember hearing a J month,  but couldn't remember if it was january or july
[03:37] <wgrant> Parts of the changes were backed out for this release, but I believe it's all implemented.
[03:38] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm just looking forward to not having to make minor version number changes for multiple releases and a single upload
[03:38] <wgrant> I wouldn't advise using multiple PPAs for that.
[03:38] <wgrant> That would break upgrades, for example.
[03:38] <wgrant> There are good reasons that you need to do that.
[03:38] <wgrant> But in most cases you should just be able to upload it to the oldest release and copy the binaries to the newer ones.
[03:39] <wgrant> No more uploads required.
[09:59] <gnomefreak> it seems PPA is down
[10:03] <wgrant> gnomefreak: What gives you this idea?
[10:03] <gnomefreak> cant connect to the repos
[10:03] <wgrant> Works fine for me.
[10:03] <gnomefreak> hold on ill patebin it
[10:04] <gnomefreak> wgrant: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/601154
[10:04] <gnomefreak> and my connection to net is fine or i wouldnt be here
[10:05] <wgrant> Your Internet connection is broken, or was for a while.
[10:05] <gnomefreak> either apt issue or PPA issue the secuity ones may be due to not being open
[10:05] <wgrant> Both work fine for me.
[10:05] <wgrant> Try again.
[10:05] <gnomefreak> it was? than why did all but PPA and security only ones that failed
[10:06] <gnomefreak> oops i mean worked
[10:06] <wgrant> Or the Canonical DC dropped out for a moment. Either way it's not a PPA problem and not a good topic for here.
[10:07] <wgrant> Or your Internet connection revived just before it tried to connect to gb.a.u.c.
[10:07] <gnomefreak> ill try it again i thought PPA was LP server so i figured here would be best for PPA
[10:07] <wgrant> PPA is.
[10:07] <wgrant> security.u.c is not.
[10:07] <gnomefreak> wgrant: i only asked about PPA
[10:08] <wgrant> Given that both appeared to be unconnectable to at the same time, it is likely that the problem was closer to you than germanium.
[10:08] <gnomefreak> will find out
[10:11]  * gnomefreak found issue it seems router gave a problem but i would have thought it would have dropped me off net. but g/f noticed it
[10:11] <gnomefreak> as for security still ddown but not needed until after elease
[10:12] <wgrant> We have been after release for perhaps 4 years now...
[10:12] <wgrant> security.ubuntu.com is also not down from here.
[10:13] <gnomefreak> wgrant: i reda it wrong it was gb server meta info changing cc worked
[10:14] <wgrant> Pardon?
[10:14] <gnomefreak> s/reda/read
[10:14] <wgrant> cc worked?
[10:14] <wgrant> But why on earth do I get a 403 for http://security.ubuntu.com/ from some hosts but not others...
[10:14] <gnomefreak> no i used us.* and gb.* both are failing
[10:15] <wgrant> They are different hosts.
[10:15] <gnomefreak> same error
[10:15] <wgrant> => your connection is probably the problem.
[10:15] <gnomefreak> but the others work? its a server issue by looks of errors
[10:15] <wgrant> Traceroute.
[10:15] <wgrant> What is the error?
[10:15] <gnomefreak> Unable to find expected entry  restrictedi/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[10:16] <gnomefreak> release file is server side
[10:16] <wgrant> From which server?
[10:16] <gnomefreak> us and gb
[10:16] <wgrant> Pastebin the log, please.
[10:17] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/601158
[10:17] <wgrant> You cannot spell restricted.
[10:17] <gnomefreak> oh maybe why i was typing else where it added a letter?
[10:18] <gnomefreak> wgrant: they are default repos i didnt change them
[10:18] <wgrant> Perhaps.
[10:18] <wgrant> No they aren't.
[10:18] <wgrant> You changed them.
[10:18] <gnomefreak> yep trialing i and no i was typing somewhere else but gedit took focus
[10:19] <gnomefreak> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main restrictedi
[10:19] <wgrant> ENOPARSE
[10:19] <gnomefreak> gedit stole focus when i was typing in another file
[10:19] <wgrant> Ah.
[10:19] <gnomefreak> yep works now :)
[10:21] <gnomefreak> thanks wgrant
[10:21] <wgrant> Excellent.
[10:26] <todd12> hey
[10:28] <todd12> for a series, if i link an svn repository to launchpad, launchpad will make a bazaar repository out of it?
[10:32] <wgrant> todd12: Yes.
[10:33] <wgrant> And it will continuously import new changes every few hours.
[10:39] <todd12> okay, does that mean that people can check in to the bazaar copy and those check in will find their way to the svn version?
[10:43] <todd12> wgrant: what i've got is a project in svn and i'd like to keep using svn, without having to manage another repository (bazaar).
[10:45] <wgrant> todd12: No, it's read-only.
[10:45] <wgrant> Launchpad can't write to your Subversion repository.
[10:46] <wgrant> Users can use your Subversion repository through bzr-svn however, and still have write access.
[10:46] <wgrant> I do that with the projects to which I have commit access that still use svn.
[10:47] <todd12> wgrant: okay thanks!
[10:47] <wgrant> np
[13:55] <azimout> merry christmas to everyone. i had an idea about a launchpad feature that i wanted to put forward here, before filing it as a launchpad bug: adding another status for launchpad bugs, something like "abandoned". currently, if the reporter(s) of a bug disappear, bugs are marked as invalid
[14:35] <_Andrew_> Hi, I'm trying to upload to my ppa however I get the following rejection message, "Not permitted to upload to the RELEASE pocket in a series in the 'SUPPORTED' state."
[14:36] <_Andrew_> Anyone know what the problem is? I didn't get this a few months back
[14:41] <beuno> _Andrew_, what version of Ubuntu are you uploading to?
[14:41] <_Andrew_> hardy the version I am using
[14:42] <beuno> _Andrew_, are you sure that's what the changelog file says?
[14:43] <_Andrew_> cegui (0.6.2~ppa1) hardy; urgency=low
[14:44] <beuno> _Andrew_, are you getting that error via email or on the terminal?
[14:44] <_Andrew_> email
[14:44] <_Andrew_> I tested the package with pbuilder before sending and there were no problems
[14:45] <beuno> hmm...
[14:47] <nhandler> _Andrew_: What command are you using to upload to your ppa?
[14:48] <_Andrew_> dput cegui_0.6.2~ppa1_source.changes
[14:48] <nhandler> Is cegui_0.6.2~ppa1 the name of your PPA in your dput.cf file?
[14:49] <_Andrew> The name of the package I am uploading
[14:49] <_Andrew> My dput.cf points to my ppa
[14:51] <nhandler> Could you pastebin your dput.cf?
[14:52] <_Andrew> http://pastebin.com/d300f01e1
[14:53] <nhandler> _Andrew: Do dput cegui_0.6.2~ppa1_source.changes
[14:53] <nhandler> I meant dput myppa cegui_0.6.2~ppa1_source.changes
[14:53] <_Andrew> ah yes, I forgot "myppa"
[14:53] <_Andrew> thanks for the help
[14:53] <nhandler> You're welcome
[15:10] <Kalidarn> mm any administrators around?
[15:10] <asabil> hi all
[15:11] <asabil> is it possible to rename a project ?
[15:13] <Kalidarn> danilos, you there
[15:13] <Kalidarn> been having a problem, i commited a version of something a while back 0ubuntu1 of mktorrent i realised it should have been 0ppa1
[15:13] <Kalidarn> so that if the package ever got into the main repositories it would not conflict, anyways
[15:14] <Kalidarn> i can't seem to delete the stuff in my ppa or commit a fixed up version
[15:14] <Kalidarn> i've been waiting around for days for a launcpad admin to help me :P
[18:52] <LaserJock> is there any place in the API to "plug in" to +packagebug pages?
[18:56] <LaserJock> I could use field.bug_supervisor with python-launchpad-bugs but I wonder if there's a better way to do it with the LP API
[19:11] <thekorn> LaserJock, I think all users bug pages are not available through the API yet, I think I filed a bug about it some time ago
[19:11] <LaserJock> I see
[19:11] <thekorn> bug 282178
[19:42] <LaserJock> is it "expected behavior" to not be able to daisy-chain duplications?
[19:42] <LaserJock> i.e. I get an error when I set a bug that has a dup as a dup
[20:27] <meoblast001> hi
[20:28] <meoblast001> is launchpad almost opensource yet?
[20:28] <LaserJock> meoblast001: I think it's supposed to be in July
[20:28] <meoblast001> O_o
[20:28] <beuno> meoblast001, no, it will be opened in July or so
[20:28] <meoblast001> thats too long
[20:28] <meoblast001> lol
[20:29] <meoblast001> :(
[20:29] <beuno> some libraries and such will be opened gradually
[20:29] <meoblast001> i can wait
[22:13] <Octy92> hi
[22:47] <Sindacious> Someone pointed me here to ask about this, how can I get my system name changed?