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bardyrHey, i have a problem with X, no driver is installed, vesa, nv, etc. and i cant installed them with apt-get because i get no candidate found. is this a known problem and is there anything i can do?00:13
bardyrnvm, i tried to install xserver-xorg-driver, i should have installed xserver-xorg-video*00:18
bardyrhas anybody gotten the nvidia driver to work with jaunty?00:32
charlie-tcaI use the open-source drive00:32
charlie-tcadriver00:32
charlie-tcaI have not tried any of the restricted drivers00:33
naught101how can I send the commandline output of a GUI program to a file?01:03
bardyrcmd > file01:06
naught101bardyr: that's what I though... doesn't seem to work for workrave01:08
naught101doesn't work for digikam either01:10
naught101cause it's stderr, not stdout01:14
naught101answer: command 2> file01:16
bardyrhas anybody gotten nvidia-glx-180 to work? when i install it, i get errors that truetype and type1 does not exist01:23
crimsunbardyr: hmm? you shouldn't be getting those errors regardless what Nvidia version is used02:45
bardyrcrimsun, installing nvidia-glx-180 is removing xserver-xorg and friends02:46
crimsunbardyr: that's known. the current Nvidia drivers are only compatible with version 1.5 of the x window system server abi02:47
crimsunbardyr: the current x window system server's abi is 1.602:47
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bardyr-ignoreABI seems to make it work, but i did get those errors02:48
crimsunit doesn't really work; you're just telling the driver that you don't mind instability02:48
bardyrcrimsun, so, is there anyway to get them to work?02:48
crimsunbardyr: not until Nvidia releases a newer set of drivers fully compatible with the 1.6 abi02:49
bardyror do i need to wait for a new release from nvidia02:49
bardyrkk'02:49
crimsunyou can continue to use that ignore parameter with the current jaunty xserver-xorg-* packages, but there're known instability and crashing points02:49
standoes 9.04 have any fun features yet?03:55
stanor is it just version refreshes03:55
Vestorhey everyone. hardware specs out for 'jaunty' yet?04:08
Vestorhey jtisme04:11
Vestori have a ubuntu server question.04:15
Vestorabout 64bit dual core support04:15
* stan is enthralled in suspense.04:17
sean_aushey people.. anyone tried the new 2.6.28-4 kernel yet on??04:59
crimsunyes, WFM04:59
sean_auscrimsun05:01
sean_auscrimsun: did it break ur system?05:01
sean_ausor does it work fine?05:02
crimsunWFM == works for me05:02
crimsunso, no regressions from -3.405:02
sean_auscrimsun: thanks.. im currently upgrading to the 4.. update in progress..05:03
crimsunsean_aus: you're addressing me in both #ubuntu and here05:03
crimsunthat's not really necessary05:03
sean_ausokay.. im new to IRC.. no idea what im doing.. :P05:03
sean_ausi know it's almost impossible at this stage.. but just asking if you have any ideas..05:06
crimsunsean_aus: ideas for...?05:07
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sean_ausguys.. anyone knows how to get fglrx working on Jaunty alpha 2.. or is it just not possible?07:48
sochi07:58
socwill texlive be updatedt for jaunty?07:58
soctexlive 2008 was released in september, but wasn't included in intrepid and has not included into jaunty yet ...07:59
x1250soc, you can fill a bug report for that07:59
x1250file*08:00
socah k ...08:01
socagainst texlive?08:01
x1250yes, with tag: needs-update08:03
socx1250: mhhh seems that texlive 2008 isn't in debian yet ...08:04
x1250soc, I guess that shouldn't be a problem since texlive is in jaunty/main, but you never know.08:06
socok, i updated that bug with needs-update:08:09
sochttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/texlive-base/+bug/28750208:09
ubottuUbuntu bug 287502 in texlive-base "please package TeXLive 2008" [Undecided,New]08:10
sochi08:44
socanother thing:08:44
socdoes someone know if there is some work done on gnome-appearance-properties?08:45
socbecuase at the moment there is no difference between Antialising Grayscale and Subpixel08:46
socwhich is clearly a bug08:46
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biberaohi12:16
biberaohello12:37
socwill qt4.5 be included in jaunty?12:57
socor still qt4.4?12:57
onetinsoldierhmmm, i don't know for sure. i can tell you what version i have right now12:59
onetinsoldiersoc: i have libqt-4.313:00
onetinsoldieri would guess that when jaunty is closer to completion. which won't be until april, it will have 4.4 by then13:01
onetinsoldiersoc: wait!13:01
onetinsoldieri was wrong....13:01
onetinsoldiersoc: apparently the version is already 4.413:02
onetinsoldiersoc: ii  libqtcore4                                4.4.3-2ubuntu113:02
onetinsoldierdoh! i'm a goofball, just woke up and not reading question well enough13:03
onetinsoldierit has 4.4 and i would guess that by release time it will have 4.513:03
socahh sounds good13:17
sochopefully the font rendering respects the system wiede settings then ...13:17
onetinsoldiersoc: yeah, i have no idea about that, but i hear you13:18
onetinsoldiersoc: are you using jaunty at all?13:19
onetinsoldiersoc: i just installed it yesterday13:19
socone system with jaunty, one with intrepid13:19
socthe qt-big together with that gnome-bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/269920 make the whole font rendering a whole mess13:20
ubottuUbuntu bug 269920 in gnome-control-center "gnome-font-viewer missing in gnome-control-center" [Low,Triaged]13:20
onetinsoldierroger. both intrepid and jaunty on same hard drive here13:20
socoops wrong one13:20
sochttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/20070713:20
ubottuUbuntu bug 200707 in libcairo "fontconfig does not honor hintslight, hintmedium, hintfull" [Unknown,Confirmed]13:20
onetinsoldieroh, i see13:21
drunkenkillahi16:13
drunkenkillahas anyone probs with firefox too?16:13
onetinsoldierhi16:13
onetinsoldieri just installed firefox and pulled it up one.. then went to www.google.com16:14
onetinsoldierone = once16:14
onetinsoldierworked ok here16:14
drunkenkillaok then look at this page: http://www.suub.uni-bremen.de/16:14
drunkenkillai got probs on this page16:15
drunkenkillanot only on this page16:15
charlie-tcadrunkenkilla: Can´t tell you why, but that page does not render correctly in Jaunty.16:17
charlie-tcaIt does work in Intrepid, though16:17
drunkenkillasome pages doesn't work correctly with firefox in jaunty16:18
drunkenkillai tried to install opera, but the packages is not correkt on jaunty too16:18
drunkenkilla-es16:19
drunkenkillanormaly the packe name is opera, i installed it with aptitude, but it doesn't work16:19
drunkenkillashould i post this bug in launchpad?16:22
drunkenkillathe firefox bug16:22
ikoniadefine not work16:22
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Splexhow is jaunty working so far?16:47
ikoniasame as every other version16:51
ikoniasome days bugs somedays good16:51
terliwe are going to have the option(in the graphical installer) to turn encrypted partitions off, yesno?17:24
terliSolly, I mean encrypted swap/home17:26
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BUGabundoguys did the mozillateam changed FF to FF3.1 in jaunty??18:55
BUGabundoI can't start FF3.0.5 even when using firefox-3.018:56
charlie-tcaBUGabundo: is not FF firefox?19:03
BUGabundoyep19:04
BUGabundonot friend freed ROFL19:04
charlie-tcaI show 3.0.5 in yesterday's ISO19:04
BUGabundocan't say19:04
charlie-tcaI don´t seem to have problems running it.19:04
BUGabundohaven't download any new dailies since A119:05
charlie-tcaI did an install yesterday19:05
BUGabundoI don't either19:05
BUGabundobut I can't start it AFTER opening a FF3.119:05
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mnis jaunty much different from intrepid yet?21:33
BUGabundonot much mn21:39
BUGabundosome newer versions21:39
BUGabundoand a really new kernel21:40
mnah21:40
mndo you think it would be ok to install it to a separate dedicated partition or should i install it on a computer by itself21:40
mnyeah, but sometimes it doesn't work.  It would create a pen of Puppy21:50
mnWhat is the files that the updater uses for sources i can't remember.21:51
BUGabundoyeah it happened with some21:51
BUGabundoits beeing fixed21:51
BUGabundoor you can use the latest syslinux to make it boot correctly21:51
mnI used unetbootin21:52
BUGabundoyeah21:53
BUGabundoanoter choice21:53
groensal_mn: you mean /etc/apt/sources.list?21:57
mnyeah that's it ty groensal_21:57
groensal_nps21:58
GrooQuick question, what version does update-manager -d bring you to, the very latest builds, or the last release/alpha 2?23:36
crimsunwhatever's currently in the archive/pool23:36
crimsunso, probably even newer than the daily{,-live}23:36
crimsunit's essentially "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" with a lot more logic to "do the right thing"s with third-party repos23:37
GrooThanks, doing it now. The daily crashed on install with a black screen.23:37
crimsunwhere during the install did it crash?23:37
GrooIt went to the Ubuntu splash screen, took a long time, ~5 minutes, with the animation still moving. Then black screened with no error/warning.23:39
GrooFWIW it is a Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo Sa 3650 notebook (AMD 780GM chipset) with the external GPU (XGP in AMD parlance). I don't think the XPG module is released yet, but I am pretty sure the notebook itself is23:41
GrooAnd now the update failed. :( Can't access two of the repositories. I have been having network wierdnesses all day, so it is probably that.23:42
GrooSigh. The universe is getting it's revenge on me today.23:43

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