[00:13] <bardyr> Hey, i have a problem with X, no driver is installed, vesa, nv, etc. and i cant installed them with apt-get because i get no candidate found. is this a known problem and is there anything i can do?
[00:18] <bardyr> nvm, i tried to install xserver-xorg-driver, i should have installed xserver-xorg-video*
[00:32] <bardyr> has anybody gotten the nvidia driver to work with jaunty?
[00:32] <charlie-tca> I use the open-source drive
[00:32] <charlie-tca> driver
[00:33] <charlie-tca> I have not tried any of the restricted drivers
[01:03] <naught101> how can I send the commandline output of a GUI program to a file?
[01:06] <bardyr> cmd > file
[01:08] <naught101> bardyr: that's what I though... doesn't seem to work for workrave
[01:10] <naught101> doesn't work for digikam either
[01:14] <naught101> cause it's stderr, not stdout
[01:16] <naught101> answer: command 2> file
[01:23] <bardyr> has anybody gotten nvidia-glx-180 to work? when i install it, i get errors that truetype and type1 does not exist
[02:45] <crimsun> bardyr: hmm? you shouldn't be getting those errors regardless what Nvidia version is used
[02:46] <bardyr> crimsun, installing nvidia-glx-180 is removing xserver-xorg and friends
[02:47] <crimsun> bardyr: that's known. the current Nvidia drivers are only compatible with version 1.5 of the x window system server abi
[02:47] <crimsun> bardyr: the current x window system server's abi is 1.6
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[02:48] <bardyr> -ignoreABI seems to make it work, but i did get those errors
[02:48] <crimsun> it doesn't really work; you're just telling the driver that you don't mind instability
[02:48] <bardyr> crimsun, so, is there anyway to get them to work?
[02:49] <crimsun> bardyr: not until Nvidia releases a newer set of drivers fully compatible with the 1.6 abi
[02:49] <bardyr> or do i need to wait for a new release from nvidia
[02:49] <bardyr> kk'
[02:49] <crimsun> you can continue to use that ignore parameter with the current jaunty xserver-xorg-* packages, but there're known instability and crashing points
[03:55] <stan> does 9.04 have any fun features yet?
[03:55] <stan> or is it just version refreshes
[04:08] <Vestor> hey everyone. hardware specs out for 'jaunty' yet?
[04:11] <Vestor> hey jtisme
[04:15] <Vestor> i have a ubuntu server question.
[04:15] <Vestor> about 64bit dual core support
[04:17]  * stan is enthralled in suspense.
[04:59] <sean_aus> hey people.. anyone tried the new 2.6.28-4 kernel yet on??
[04:59] <crimsun> yes, WFM
[05:01] <sean_aus> crimsun
[05:01] <sean_aus> crimsun: did it break ur system?
[05:02] <sean_aus> or does it work fine?
[05:02] <crimsun> WFM == works for me
[05:02] <crimsun> so, no regressions from -3.4
[05:03] <sean_aus> crimsun: thanks.. im currently upgrading to the 4.. update in progress..
[05:03] <crimsun> sean_aus: you're addressing me in both #ubuntu and here
[05:03] <crimsun> that's not really necessary
[05:03] <sean_aus> okay.. im new to IRC.. no idea what im doing.. :P
[05:06] <sean_aus> i know it's almost impossible at this stage.. but just asking if you have any ideas..
[05:07] <crimsun> sean_aus: ideas for...?
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[07:48] <sean_aus> guys.. anyone knows how to get fglrx working on Jaunty alpha 2.. or is it just not possible?
[07:58] <soc> hi
[07:58] <soc> will texlive be updatedt for jaunty?
[07:59] <soc> texlive 2008 was released in september, but wasn't included in intrepid and has not included into jaunty yet ...
[07:59] <x1250> soc, you can fill a bug report for that
[08:00] <x1250> file*
[08:01] <soc> ah k ...
[08:01] <soc> against texlive?
[08:03] <x1250> yes, with tag: needs-update
[08:04] <soc> x1250: mhhh seems that texlive 2008 isn't in debian yet ...
[08:06] <x1250> soc, I guess that shouldn't be a problem since texlive is in jaunty/main, but you never know.
[08:09] <soc> ok, i updated that bug with needs-update:
[08:09] <soc> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/texlive-base/+bug/287502
[08:10] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 287502 in texlive-base "please package TeXLive 2008" [Undecided,New]
[08:44] <soc> hi
[08:44] <soc> another thing:
[08:45] <soc> does someone know if there is some work done on gnome-appearance-properties?
[08:46] <soc> becuase at the moment there is no difference between Antialising Grayscale and Subpixel
[08:46] <soc> which is clearly a bug
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[12:16] <biberao> hi
[12:37] <biberao> hello
[12:57] <soc> will qt4.5 be included in jaunty?
[12:57] <soc> or still qt4.4?
[12:59] <onetinsoldier> hmmm, i don't know for sure. i can tell you what version i have right now
[13:00] <onetinsoldier> soc: i have libqt-4.3
[13:01] <onetinsoldier> i would guess that when jaunty is closer to completion. which won't be until april, it will have 4.4 by then
[13:01] <onetinsoldier> soc: wait!
[13:01] <onetinsoldier> i was wrong....
[13:02] <onetinsoldier> soc: apparently the version is already 4.4
[13:02] <onetinsoldier> soc: ii  libqtcore4                                4.4.3-2ubuntu1
[13:03] <onetinsoldier> doh! i'm a goofball, just woke up and not reading question well enough
[13:03] <onetinsoldier> it has 4.4 and i would guess that by release time it will have 4.5
[13:17] <soc> ahh sounds good
[13:17] <soc> hopefully the font rendering respects the system wiede settings then ...
[13:18] <onetinsoldier> soc: yeah, i have no idea about that, but i hear you
[13:19] <onetinsoldier> soc: are you using jaunty at all?
[13:19] <onetinsoldier> soc: i just installed it yesterday
[13:19] <soc> one system with jaunty, one with intrepid
[13:20] <soc> the qt-big together with that gnome-bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/269920 make the whole font rendering a whole mess
[13:20] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 269920 in gnome-control-center "gnome-font-viewer missing in gnome-control-center" [Low,Triaged]
[13:20] <onetinsoldier> roger. both intrepid and jaunty on same hard drive here
[13:20] <soc> oops wrong one
[13:20] <soc> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/200707
[13:20] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 200707 in libcairo "fontconfig does not honor hintslight, hintmedium, hintfull" [Unknown,Confirmed]
[13:21] <onetinsoldier> oh, i see
[16:13] <drunkenkilla> hi
[16:13] <drunkenkilla> has anyone probs with firefox too?
[16:13] <onetinsoldier> hi
[16:14] <onetinsoldier> i just installed firefox and pulled it up one.. then went to www.google.com
[16:14] <onetinsoldier> one = once
[16:14] <onetinsoldier> worked ok here
[16:14] <drunkenkilla> ok then look at this page: http://www.suub.uni-bremen.de/
[16:15] <drunkenkilla> i got probs on this page
[16:15] <drunkenkilla> not only on this page
[16:17] <charlie-tca> drunkenkilla: Can´t tell you why, but that page does not render correctly in Jaunty.
[16:17] <charlie-tca> It does work in Intrepid, though
[16:18] <drunkenkilla> some pages doesn't work correctly with firefox in jaunty
[16:18] <drunkenkilla> i tried to install opera, but the packages is not correkt on jaunty too
[16:19] <drunkenkilla> -es
[16:19] <drunkenkilla> normaly the packe name is opera, i installed it with aptitude, but it doesn't work
[16:22] <drunkenkilla> should i post this bug in launchpad?
[16:22] <drunkenkilla> the firefox bug
[16:22] <ikonia> define not work
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[16:47] <Splex> how is jaunty working so far?
[16:51] <ikonia> same as every other version
[16:51] <ikonia> some days bugs somedays good
[17:24] <terli> we are going to have the option(in the graphical installer) to turn encrypted partitions off, yesno?
[17:26] <terli> Solly, I mean encrypted swap/home
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[18:55] <BUGabundo> guys did the mozillateam changed FF to FF3.1 in jaunty??
[18:56] <BUGabundo> I can't start FF3.0.5 even when using firefox-3.0
[19:03] <charlie-tca> BUGabundo: is not FF firefox?
[19:04] <BUGabundo> yep
[19:04] <BUGabundo> not friend freed ROFL
[19:04] <charlie-tca> I show 3.0.5 in yesterday's ISO
[19:04] <BUGabundo> can't say
[19:04] <charlie-tca> I don´t seem to have problems running it.
[19:05] <BUGabundo> haven't download any new dailies since A1
[19:05] <charlie-tca> I did an install yesterday
[19:05] <BUGabundo> I don't either
[19:05] <BUGabundo> but I can't start it AFTER opening a FF3.1
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[21:33] <mn> is jaunty much different from intrepid yet?
[21:39] <BUGabundo> not much mn
[21:39] <BUGabundo> some newer versions
[21:40] <BUGabundo> and a really new kernel
[21:40] <mn> ah
[21:40] <mn> do you think it would be ok to install it to a separate dedicated partition or should i install it on a computer by itself
[21:50] <mn> yeah, but sometimes it doesn't work.  It would create a pen of Puppy
[21:51] <mn> What is the files that the updater uses for sources i can't remember.
[21:51] <BUGabundo> yeah it happened with some
[21:51] <BUGabundo> its beeing fixed
[21:51] <BUGabundo> or you can use the latest syslinux to make it boot correctly
[21:52] <mn> I used unetbootin
[21:53] <BUGabundo> yeah
[21:53] <BUGabundo> anoter choice
[21:57] <groensal_> mn: you mean /etc/apt/sources.list?
[21:57] <mn> yeah that's it ty groensal_
[21:58] <groensal_> nps
[23:36] <Groo> Quick question, what version does update-manager -d bring you to, the very latest builds, or the last release/alpha 2?
[23:36] <crimsun> whatever's currently in the archive/pool
[23:36] <crimsun> so, probably even newer than the daily{,-live}
[23:37] <crimsun> it's essentially "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" with a lot more logic to "do the right thing"s with third-party repos
[23:37] <Groo> Thanks, doing it now. The daily crashed on install with a black screen.
[23:37] <crimsun> where during the install did it crash?
[23:39] <Groo> It went to the Ubuntu splash screen, took a long time, ~5 minutes, with the animation still moving. Then black screened with no error/warning.
[23:41] <Groo> FWIW it is a Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo Sa 3650 notebook (AMD 780GM chipset) with the external GPU (XGP in AMD parlance). I don't think the XPG module is released yet, but I am pretty sure the notebook itself is
[23:42] <Groo> And now the update failed. :( Can't access two of the repositories. I have been having network wierdnesses all day, so it is probably that.
[23:43] <Groo> Sigh. The universe is getting it's revenge on me today.