[03:45] <kees> anyone around to talk me through bleeding-edge intel?  I've got stuff from the xorg-edgers PPA installed, but when I forced on UXA, 3d performance dropped by about 60%.
[07:09] <tjaalton> kees: still around? check the log if DRI is enabled
[07:41] <tjaalton> hmm, mfb has been disabled and xf1bpp purged from the server sources.. maybe time to let x-x-v-sunbw2 go :)
[16:51] <kees> tjaalton: yup, dri2 is enabled
[16:56] <tjaalton> kees: hum, ok. maybe it needs a newer mesa or something
[16:57] <tjaalton> there is a "2008-q4" branch available, dunno when it's going to be merged to master. maybe that could help
[17:03] <kees> tjaalton: yeah, I'm reading http://intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html at the moment
[17:03] <kees> tjaalton: sounds like the ppa libdri2 is a few days behind
[17:08] <tjaalton> kees: heh, could be
[17:24] <tormod> I think stuff that came in libdrm after c86d431f is mostly kernel-mode-setting stuff
[17:25] <tjaalton> kees: which app are you using for testing?
[17:25] <kees> tjaalton: I'm using tremulous
[17:25] <kees> tormod: any ideas what I should change/tweak?
[17:25] <kees> right now the only non-default thing I have set in xorg.conf is to use UXA
[17:26] <tormod> kees: I have very little hands-on on intel. sitting on one now over Christmas but haven't tested all the edgy stuff.
[17:27] <tormod> are there any complaints in the log?
[17:27] <kees> tormod: okay, cool.  I'm happy to be a tester for you :)
[17:27] <kees> not that I've found
[17:28] <tormod> well I actually have -intel git master and libdrm from ppa installed, so I am almost on the edge :)
[17:28] <kees> tormod: though, it seems to load the i915 driver, not i965.
[17:29] <kees> tormod: where is the git master ppa?  I saw stuff from about 9 days ago on xorg-edgers
[17:29] <tormod> kees: there's none. I can push it to xorg-edgers.
[17:29] <kees> cool, yeah
[17:31] <kees> (WW) intel(0): ESR is 0x00000001, instruction error
[17:31] <kees> (WW) intel(0): Existing errors found in hardware state.
[17:31] <kees> that's the only error I can find
[17:44] <crevette> kees, does tremulous works well for you performance-wise ? because for me is slow as hell somtimes, fps decreases to 3 
[17:47] <tormod> kees, it's building in the ppa now.
[17:47] <kees> crevette: with EXA, and all the fancy stuff turned down, I usually stay above 6fps
[17:47] <kees> tormod: cool
[17:47] <kees> crevette: normally it's around 15-30, with simple rooms at 90
[17:47] <kees> crevette: with UXA, it's about 2fps
[17:48] <crevette> kees, for me I didn't touch anything in xorg so I believe I have no xorg.conf
[17:48] <crevette> so I wondered if I didn't miss something in my conf (not in a required group, ...)
[17:49] <kees> crevette: with normal (exa/dri) I just turn all the fancy stuff off in tremulous
[17:49] <crevette> kees, for 3D performance, I just need to be in video group, right ?
[17:50] <tormod> crevette: yes
[17:50] <crevette> okay
[17:50] <tormod> glxinfo should confirm it's ok
[17:50] <crevette> yeah, I use dri
[17:52] <tormod> oh I forgot, nothing builds in Jaunty now, because of a conflicting drm headers in linux-libc-dev ...
[17:54] <tjaalton> again?
[17:55] <tjaalton> I thought the kernel header should not be installed until libdrm is fixed
[17:56] <tormod> last time I added a Replaces: linux-libc-dev (<= 2.6.28-3.4) to libdrm, but now a new kernel is out with the same issue.
[17:57] <tjaalton> oh right, it was fixed with a Replaces in libdrm
[17:57] <tormod> I'll drop the versioning in the ppa. and there will be a new libdrm from master git for kees :)
[17:59] <tormod> last time I tried k-m-s in the ppa I discovered many people were using it :) I hope current libdrm is more backwards compatible.
[20:33] <tormod> kees, with updated libdrm and -intel, glxgears went up from 800 to 930, but enabling UXA gives 390 - because then I get DRI2 I guess.
[21:51] <kees> tormod: upstream told me that glxgear isn't a good measure of performance, but yeah, 3d still is way slow.  dang.
[21:52] <tormod> kees: I know, it's just so handy :)
[21:52] <tormod> is it faster with EXA for you?
[21:53] <kees> exa is faster than uxa, but I didn't compare old driver to new driver with exa.  nothing jumped out at me.  I get about 2400 fps with glxgears on exa, and about 900 on uxa