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linuxman410i bought a kvm switch from zonet a two port and xubuntu would only go 640x480 does anyone know of kvm switch that works with linux00:19
charlie-tcaI have two that do. One is a two-port Belkin Flip and the other is a 4-port Belkin00:21
charlie-tcaI have been using them since 6.0600:22
linuxman410do you have the model numbers00:22
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charlie-tcaand yes, I use them with jaunty00:22
charlie-tcaModel N10117 Belkin 4-Port KVM00:22
charlie-tcaThe other is simply called the 'Flip'00:23
linuxman410thanks00:23
charlie-tcano problem.00:23
linuxman410i have the usb flip do u think it will work00:26
charlie-tcaI don´t really know. None of mine use USB00:27
linuxman410ok just checking00:28
charlie-tcaYou probably need to use the rear USB connections, not the front. They have more power for some reason00:28
charlie-tcaMine both power off the PS2 connectors00:28
linuxman410my friend said he had a dlink 4 port he would sell me but i hope it will work with ubuntu00:29
linuxman410and xubuntu00:29
charlie-tcaWill he let you try it first?00:30
linuxman410because i have 4 linux boxes that i use i hate to unhook monitor and change all the time00:30
linuxman410i need to ask him00:31
charlie-tcaI know the feeling. I run 5 systems here, with two keyboards, 2 mice, 2 monitors00:31
charlie-tcaI do a lot of testing00:31
charlie-tcaGotta go. Good luck00:32
linuxman410thanks00:32
charlie-tcayou're welcome00:32
DominiddioHello people does anyone can help me?00:37
DominiddioHello guys I got a little "modem-eeepc comunication" problem, does anybody can help me?00:47
vengerhey guys i have an install using a low res (tv) and can't find where in xfce4 to add programs to be autostarted ?01:24
stwestonanyone here know how to hook up an internal HDD so that it connects on boot?01:45
stwestonI mean, so that it will be recognized by Xubuntu when it starts up?01:45
stwestonanyone?01:49
stwestonokay... guess not.01:50
erovyeah01:50
stwestoneh?01:50
stwestonwhat do you mean, "yeah"?01:51
erovi do know how.. or did01:51
stwestonokay...01:51
stwestonwould you help?01:51
erovit's become a bit complicated with the UUID stuff.. hod on01:51
erovhold on01:51
stwestonokay01:51
craigbass1976Perhaps another dumb question...  I have things saved to the Desktop directory, but I don't see them on my desktop.   How come?02:24
craigbass1976Oh, they're there.  I clicked "Let XFCE Manage My Desktop" then clicked iton again.  Odd...02:25
viddi want to set my screen resolution to always be 1024x768 instead of 1280x102402:47
viddhow would i do this?02:48
nikolamhello, if  anyone is awake :)03:35
nikolamOs MIDI and playing midi files working for you?03:35
nikolamwhen I do amidi -l I see no devices..03:36
nikolamI am on 8.0403:36
ballhello nikolam03:36
nikolam64-bit03:36
nikolamhi ball03:36
ballnikolam: give me a minute, I'll fire up my Xubuntu box03:36
nikolamball, its great from you03:36
nikolamim meantime, I will fire my 8.10 in VM :)03:37
nikolamHah, there IS midi device in 8.10 inside Qemu/KVM with sound support03:43
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nikolamball did you try it?03:55
ballnikolam: what app are you using to play MIDI files?03:58
nikolamtotem, vnc, audacity, kmid :)04:00
ballvlc probably, rather than vnc04:02
nikolamaudacious, rosegarden04:02
ball...though vlc won't play my MIDI file either.04:03
nikolamvlc :)04:04
ballfetching audacity04:05
nikolamsmplayer,mplayer04:05
ballaudacity won't either, unless I use something to render it into a sampled sound file04:08
ballIsn't there a MIDI player in Linux?04:08
ballAh, "playmidi"04:12
ballHmm... neither that or muse are able to find my fm synth (if present)04:21
Datz1hello, I am experiencing low line out volume, is there a system volume control I can use to turn up the volume?04:22
ball...not sure they'll work with the UART either04:22
nikolamsorry audacious. audacity is waw editor04:22
ballDatzl: what do you have it plugged into?04:22
Datz1ball, my tv04:22
Datz1ball, everything is turned up max, but its still very quite04:23
Datz1quiet*04:23
ballDatzl: hopefully volume sliders have no effect on line out04:23
Datz1Why is that?04:23
ballDatz1: because it's supposed to be a set Voltage04:24
Datz1oh04:24
ball...700mV peak-to-peak iirc, though icbw04:24
Datz1I see04:24
Datz1so...is my hardware possibly to blame?04:24
ballIt's certainly possible.  If the TV's input impedance were too high, that'd do it.04:25
ball...or if your cables were crummy04:25
ball...or if your sound card were faulty04:25
Datz1ball, thing is I think it was louder eailer04:25
ball...I suppose it's not inconceivable that it's a software bug04:25
Datz1humm, I'll try some other devices04:25
Datz1humm04:25
ballThat's a good idea... plug it into something else that has a line input04:27
ball...then try plugging something else that has line out into the TV04:27
ball...may help you localise the problem at least.04:27
Datz1ok, these other computer speakers are much louder04:29
Datz1cable might have gone bad recently...04:30
Datz1thanks for your help ball.  ;)04:30
ballhello bassboi04:35
ballhello xtmnx_04:43
xtmnx_hi04:44
ballaumix:  error opening mixer: Success  <- how much sense does that make?04:45
ballAh crap, I think my sound card just isn't working.04:54
GreedyBI'm having trouble connecting to windows shares with Xubuntu.. I installed pyneighborhood but its not working :(04:56
nikolamball what lspci is saying?05:00
nikolamGreedyB, You could try smbmount for start05:01
nikolamI myself made a script that mounts all my smb shares on other machine, with password05:02
GreedyBnikolam, thanks I'll man that and look that up as well05:03
ballnikolam: nothing helpful05:10
ball01:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 06)05:10
nikolamball what sound card is that, that lspci is saying you have?05:11
* ball shrugs05:11
ballI could strip down the machine again, but I don't have time right now.05:11
ballIt may be one of those new sound cards, that's basically just DAC, ADC and a mixer chip05:12
balland apps keep complaining about the lack of "Jack", whatever that is05:13
ballrosegarden also doesn't work, same complaint.05:14
ballKCrash: Application 'rosegarden' crashing...05:15
ballI have to go anyway.05:16
nikolamGreedyB, http://paste.ubuntu.com/94822/05:17
GreedyBnikolam, nice! what if the user has no password "" or blank05:18
nikolamball I even have ES1370 emulated inside qemu/kvm. I have 8.10 inside kvm. It should work out of box05:18
nikolamGreedyB, I think there is a way NOT to put password in script but elsewere. see man page for command05:19
nikolamGreedyB, If user has no password, then he can lease one from me for 5$ each :)  :))05:21
GreedyB:)05:21
GreedyBnikolam, so I think part of my problem is I'm using OpenDNS05:29
GreedyBcause I specified the ip address and it worked05:29
nikolammm OpenDNS is somethink like.. dyndns, right?05:30
GreedyBits special dns servers that are supposedly better but right now they are causing me grief05:31
nikolamI am using dyndns on home machine and it is refreshing right05:31
nikolamIf it is local machine use /etc/hosts or setting the same on network manager05:31
nikolamIts strange to use SMB ove Internet. Seems that it is not secure enough. Thinking of using some VPN or something?05:32
obf213yo, can anyone help me with this. been using intrepid since its officialy release, yesterday i turn on my computer and i don't get internet even though i can connect to all networks, and get an ip and stuff. please help05:32
nikolamobf213, mmm, tried to ask your ISP? If you get Ip adress and there is no traffic, thech your firewall then. An ask ISP. Not forget you use Xubuntu to them, to make they day :)05:34
nikolamtry pinging some site05:35
nikolamlook if nslookup is doing its job05:35
GreedyBnikolam, adding it to the host file worked05:35
GreedyB:)05:35
obf213hey nikolam the internet works on the windows comp, and the mac comp. pinging does not work05:35
nikolamalso check dns settings in network settings05:35
GreedyBnikolam, brb testing to see if fstab works now brb05:36
nikolamGreedyB, Great :)05:36
obf213nikolam: when i connect i take a look at the system moniter and it does reicve bits, at the initial connect i get few 100kb/s for a very short perioed then its all a few hundred bytes/second.05:36
nikolamobf213, Did you check your ethernet cable? :)05:36
obf213nikolam: yes, it works with the other computers, windows and mac05:37
nikolamtry that nslookup www.yahoo.com05:38
nikolamdoes it say its ip adress?05:38
obf213connection timed out..05:39
nikolamaha. check dns settings in System>Network05:40
nikolamset your ISP dns settings there05:40
nikolamor you are using automatic (dhcp)05:41
obf213nikolam im using automatic05:42
nikolamtry pinging 87.248.113.1405:42
nikolamthat`s yahoo05:42
obf213"network is unreachable"05:43
nikolamifconfig -a ?05:43
obf213one sec restarting.05:43
obf213nikolam: ok i ran the command05:47
obf213what exactly am i looking for?05:47
obf213i have an ip address, something called a bcast, a mask, an inet6 addr05:48
nikolamif you connect with network card, you are searching for your ip adress, if you have it05:48
nikolameth005:48
obf213yes, i have an ip address05:48
obf213yes05:48
nikolamuhh, checked that cable ?05:49
obf213so any idea as to why it doesn't work? i didn' tmake any system changes that i can remember then the next day it just stopped working.05:50
obf213yeah, its not the cable tho wifi connects but doesn't work either, and this is in multiple locations. i;ve checked the cable on pc and mac which seem to work just fine with it.05:50
nikolamtry your firewall settings on machine05:51
nikolamI personally use Firestarter but you might try ufw05:51
obf213nikolam, as far as i remember i don't have a firewall, at least i've never set one up.05:52
nikolamyou can see connections in Firestarter as they are sowing also, it is point-and-click to set up05:52
nikolamtry netstat -anp to see your net connections05:52
obf213woah that just gave me a lot of stuff...05:53
obf213i sent it all to a text file not sure what im looking for05:54
nikolamtcp and udp are connections05:54
nikolamrest is local machine stuff05:54
obf213ok05:55
obf213so tcp is 0.0.0.0.11105:55
nikolamDo you have some kind of web interface control on you router?05:55
nikolammaybe you can find some info there05:55
obf213and 0.0.0.0.631, one of the udp's is my ip address05:55
linuxlerneranyone know how to make xubuntu make sounds when you maximize a window, etc?05:56
nikolamAlso it is mostly safe to ask ISP support for connection problems, as it is with Mac or PC05:56
obf213yeah. my only issue is ive been using linux for 2 years + now with no problems05:57
obf213and 2 days ago everything just seemed to stop working as far as internet05:57
nikolamobf213, That is why I stayed with LTS this time..05:57
obf213..sigh..05:59
obf213looks like i might revert back to windoze. not having internet is totally unacceptable and i've spent 2 days trying to fix this nobody seems to know why it doesn't work since all signs say it should.06:00
linuxlernermaybe its a hardware problem06:00
linuxlernerlike the router06:00
nikolamobf213, No to `doze.06:00
linuxlernerdo you have a blinky light on the back of the pc06:01
nikolamobf213, Try restarting router, asking Isp support, try booting form Live Ubuntu CD06:01
obf213linuxlerner: unlikely, this problem occured at airport, hotel, etc.06:01
obf213places where i've used it before and it worked06:01
nikolamDoes it work when you boot from Live Ubuntu CD?06:02
obf213nikolam: yeah  i wish i had my install cd with me, on vacation though.06:02
linuxlernerdid you tried releaseing and restarting the tcpd06:02
obf213linuxlerner: probably. how do i do that again?06:03
obf213ive restarted the comptuer at least 50 times.06:03
nikolamobf213, Try to select OTHER kernel on boot. and see if it works then06:04
linuxlerneryeah but i have a jeos server i ave to release and refresh the ip at boot for some reason06:04
obf213yeah tried that as well.e06:04
linuxlerneris it getting assigned an ip address06:05
nikolammaybe network card just died for some reason or something06:05
nikolami dont know06:05
obf213well the network card didn't die06:05
obf213cuz i see that i am actually receivind data06:05
obf213yeah. it doesn't really make any sense.06:06
linuxlernerdo you hve firewall?06:06
linuxlernerblocking port 8006:06
linuxlerneror firefor process or whatever06:06
obf213img getting data in incredibly small volumes, except for when i initialy connect.06:06
obf213linuxlerner: i don't and used some command for firewal and disabled it anywyas06:06
nikolamSOooo it is Working, surfing and else, BUT slowly??06:07
linuxlernerthat is dramatically different than having no internet for 2 days06:07
obf213nikolam: no06:08
obf213its not working or surfing06:08
nikolamoh sorry then06:08
obf213all i know is that the system monitor shows that it is receiving data06:08
obf213in very small amounts06:08
obf213so its connected to something....06:08
linuxlernerdoes sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update        give errors06:09
nikolamlinuxlerner, how can he update with no network?06:09
obf213^^06:10
obf213but clean works fine.06:10
linuxlernerhe says he has some traffic06:10
linuxlernermaybe cord is bad06:10
linuxlernercable06:10
nikolamobf213, do you have a modem on that computer?06:10
obf213no i dont.06:11
nikolamis it laptop/notebook or desktop?06:11
nikolammaybe that company is using pppoe protocol for connecting to internet?06:14
nikolamor you need to know gateway IP to connet thrue it?06:15
nikolamSo in the MIDDLE of an vacation, computer stopped working on Any network it worked day before?06:15
obf213nikolam: yeah thats correct.06:17
obf213they day before vacation. at 3:00am my internet worked06:17
obf213at 10 am it didn't06:17
obf213and has remained that way ever since06:17
nikolamAFTER System update, right?06:17
nikolamDid there was some system update?06:18
obf213nikolam: am not sure, maybe? i can't remember ubuntu updates every 5 minutes it seems like. but there was probably an update in that time.06:18
nikolamBut, internet worked on same location where it didn`t worked, right?06:18
nikolamor it worked at home, but not on vacation?06:19
obf213it didn't work at the airport06:19
obf213where it always works06:19
nikolamaha. the same airport?06:19
obf213i thought something was wrong with there connection, until everyone else computers connected and worked.06:19
obf213yes.06:19
obf213my hometown airport.06:19
obf213doesn't work at the hotel either.06:19
nikolamso you are using exclusively ethernet connection?06:20
obf213same MO thought both times, finds networks, connects, no interet06:20
obf213right now yes, but i have tried wireless, same thing06:20
nikolamno wireless integrated/usb wireless?06:20
linuxlernerwhat does ifconfig say06:20
nikolamifconfig gives him some local ip adress for eth006:21
obf213yeah my wireless card is an intel, its integrated06:21
nikolamand also he seems to use dhcp06:21
nikolamalso pinging IP does not work, nor nslookup06:21
linuxlernercan you ping your gateway06:21
obf213but if i connect i get ip and everything, but internet willl not work06:21
nikolamso do you have ath0 then06:21
linuxlernercan you connect to your router setup page?06:22
nikolamdo you get list of networks when hover over network icon?06:22
nikolamlinuxlerner, its not ne`s router06:22
nikolamlinuxlerner, his router, its from airport06:22
nikolamobf213, say, where you are now? in hotel or?06:23
obf213yes i do get the list of networks.06:23
obf213hotel.06:23
obf213it finds the hotel wifi no problem06:23
nikolamobf213, So, when you click on some of them, do you connect?06:23
nikolamso it is encrypted connection or not?06:23
linuxlernermaybe hotel wifi needs password or money to work06:23
nikolamyes, WEP key06:24
nikolamWAP sorry06:24
obf213no it does one of those thing were it routes you to there special page.06:24
obf213but its not an encrypted network06:24
nikolamso it routs you special page and then what asks?06:25
obf213just some basic info like room number.06:26
obf213but my linux laptop doesn't even get that page06:26
obf213it gets nothing but the server not found ff page06:27
linuxlernermaybe work offline is selected ?06:27
nikolamI used to see some setups where unencrypted wireless was using pppoe protocol with username/pass06:27
nikolamyou setup it with sudo pppoeconf06:27
nikolama-ha ..06:27
obf213hah i wish06:28
obf213but this problem has nothing to do with ff.06:28
obf213well thanks for your help06:30
obf213i think i'll call it quits06:30
nikolamlast one06:30
obf213?06:31
nikolamls /var/cache/apt/archives06:32
nikolamor browse to it06:32
nikolamsee what is newer date of debs installed06:32
nikolamnewest06:32
nikolamE.G. to see what is last installed few days ago06:32
nikolamMy reasoning is IF some update made your network non-working, maybe you can revert to older package and work06:32
nikolamis there any deb`s with dates after that day after 3 am06:33
obf213yeah i opened up my package manager, and didn't see anything of note in the history06:33
obf213the lastest update i had was early in the morning the day before i left, and the internet worked fine throughout that day06:34
nikolamopen /var/cache/apt/archives06:34
obf213update was some python stuff, and libxine stuff, i think which is for media06:34
obf213ok06:34
nikolamlook for newest packages06:35
obf213there is nothing there06:35
obf213but an empty folder clalled partial06:36
obf213i think somebody told me to run clean earlier in this thread06:36
obf213that might have somthing to do with it06:36
nikolamthat is done with apt-get clean. uff06:36
obf213haha. well im SOL.06:36
obf213thanks. im headed off.06:37
nikolamOk, next time bring Install Live CD with you.06:37
nikolamOr make Bootable USB from it.06:37
nikolamIts easy to.06:37
obf213yeah. im going to try that bootable usb business next time for sure.06:37
obf213later06:37
obf213nikolam: soo i was just about to shut this thing down.06:41
obf213went to my network.06:41
nikolamand and..06:41
obf213clicked on work group.....and a printer showed up06:41
obf213some hp somewhere...06:41
obf213so i go add the printer.. and i see it address06:41
obf213ping in terminal and it pings right back06:41
nikolamahaaaaaaa06:42
obf213but nothing else works???06:42
obf213yup just killed the ping06:42
obf2130 packet loss06:42
nikolamdo sudo pppoeconf  try to make connection that way06:42
nikolamyou are on hotel`s wireless or ethernet?06:42
nikolamso basically, network is working per se06:43
obf213i think my computers connected to both but defualts to ethernet06:43
obf213hmm ppoe or w/e says Provider didn't respond06:45
nikolamIf ping is working then it is something else. IF ping is ok, then I don`t know06:48
nikolamlast thing is default wateway06:48
nikolamgateway06:48
nikolamtry06:48
nikolamroute06:48
obf213ok06:49
obf213i see stars under the gateway column06:50
nikolamBut is that ping is working again..06:50
nikolamwhat was IP of that printer?06:50
obf213192.168.3.4006:51
nikolamand you say you saw it on network?06:51
nikolamlike on smb working06:51
nikolamand your ip?06:51
obf213192.168.0.19406:51
nikolammaybe you should put 255.255.255.255 netmask somewhere06:52
nikolami am not that good as this things06:52
obf213mask for eth0 is 255.255.252.006:52
nikolammaybe to set your ip to fixed value in network settings06:54
nikolamyou use xubuntu or ubuntu?06:54
nikolamtry eather 255.255.255.0 or 255.255.255.25506:54
nikolami don`t know how to set it up but with network gui06:54
nikolamthere are some examples under man route06:54
obf213ubuntu06:55
obf213alright well im goign to sleep thanks for your help06:58
nikolamgoodbye07:03
nikolam:)07:03
RAVTUXhello all07:13
nikolamhi07:17
RAVTUXnikolam: hi07:19
nikolamgot to go07:28
nikolaml8r07:28
StickManBob!ops09:48
ubottuops is HELP! gnomefreak, tonyyarusso, PuMpErNiCkLe, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, mrpouit, Myrtti, PriceChild or cody-somerville09:48
lillisi've just installed xubuntu-desktop over a server install of ubuntu, how do i launch it?10:14
TheSheepsudo /etc/init.d/gdm start10:17
lillisSo I installed the xubuntu desktop, ran the etc/init.d/gde start (i think it was that) command and it booted10:42
lillislogged in10:42
lilliseverything worked fine, but after a minute or so of fidgeting it told me it had updates to installed and wanted me to reboot, so I did (by clicking the reboot options it gave me)10:42
lillisbut it didnt power off, just went to a blank/black screen10:42
lillisdidnt managed to brig up another shell, so i rebooted with the power button10:43
lillisnow it just boots to the same blank screen10:43
lillisstill cant get a shell up10:43
lillisso i cant communicate with it at all10:43
lillis(sorry for the typos, im on an unfamiliar keyboard)10:44
lillisif i know what local ip it has i guess i could ssh to it via putty, but im not sure how to find that out10:44
lillisthe windows network browser sure won't tell me10:45
TheSheeplillis: press alt+ctrl+f1 to get to a text terminal10:46
lillisis there a way to make it boot in a failsafe/terminal only mode from yaboot?10:46
lillisi tried, it doesnt work10:46
sinboxdid you try esc at the very beginning of the boot?10:47
lillisbefore or after yaboot loader?10:47
lillis(im running the macppc version of ubuntu, on my ibook g4)10:48
* TheSheep knows nothing about ppc version10:48
TheSheepit has some strange bootloader10:48
lillismy standard keys for getting up text terminal doesnt work10:49
lillisi.e. the ones i could use in terminal before the problem10:49
* sinbox knows nothing about ppc either sorry10:51
sinboxthere is a #ubuntu-powerpc which might have more people able to halp you with getting a terminal lillis10:53
sinboxif I may: why ubuntu server with a desktop on top?10:55
lilliswell the HDD is getting really slow so I figured I wanted the most lightweight, but then I decided I might as well try xubuntu and see how it went10:56
sinboxyou should have gone for the minimal installation, then again I'm not sure there is an alternate CD for ppc10:57
lillisminimal = server?10:58
lillisthere is alternate for the ppc yes10:58
lillisah you meant a minimal installation from the alternate disc. :)10:58
lillisI could just reinstall it, didn't take much time. But I'd prefer to solve the problem instead--10:59
lillisould it be possible to reach the hard drive fille system from the shell I can launch from the install disc?11:06
lilliswould*11:06
TheSheepyes11:07
TheSheepyou can just mount it and chroot into it and it will act as if booted normally11:07
lillisso i do something like mount /dev/wd0 /whatever ?11:07
TheSheepyeah, mkdir whatever before that11:08
lillisalright, will try it, thanks alot11:08
sinboxyes boot from the CD, minimal is different from server actually (at least that's what I understand) it only installs a cli version (which is what I am about to do in X minutes here)11:08
lillisok, cant find wd0, what device should my (only hd) be located at?11:12
lillishda? mount /dev/hda /tempfs gives me "invalid argument"11:13
lillisserver doesnt install any gui either11:13
lillisif thats what you meant sinbox11:14
sinboxI know server doesn't install a gui but there are other differences as well (I think they have slightly differen tkernel optimised differently)11:15
lillisah11:15
lillisill lookt into alternate then11:15
lillisstill want to be able to solve this problem of mine though11:16
sinboxno luck mounting your HDD while in the live CD?11:24
lilliswell i probably just suck11:25
lillisnot sure where its located11:25
lillisany tips? (:11:25
lillisalso its a text installer, not the live cd11:25
lillisive tried "mount /dev/hda1 /foobar"11:29
lillisdoesnt work11:29
TheSheepwhat does fdisk -l show?11:30
lillisfdisk: not found11:32
TheSheepargh11:33
lillisthink ill jsut reinstall it all and go make some breakfast11:34
lillisand make sure to edit the xorg.conf properly11:34
ablomenlillis, cat /proc/partitions11:36
ablomentry that11:36
lillisshows five hda partitions11:37
lillishda-hda411:37
lillistrying to mount them give the same invalid argument though11:38
ablomenlillis, so something like `sudo mkdir /media/hd && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /media/hd` doesnt work?11:39
lillismounting x on y failed: no such device11:41
sinboxlillis, difference between server and minimal-desktop-cli install is that the kernel is optimised differently for server and desktop versions.11:42
ablomenlillis, could you put the output of cat /proc/partitions on pastebin?11:45
lillisive managed to use the rescue option in the yaboot loader which helps me mount my filesystem and enter it as root11:49
lillisso should be able to solve it soon11:49
sinboxthere you go, best of luck11:52
lillishmm11:58
lillisnot sure if i should just apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop11:59
lilliscant find a solution11:59
sinboxI was just reading this about ubuntu server lillis > http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netos/article.php/371203112:04
lillisran apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop on my current file system, but the reboot still is messed up12:16
lillisfull reinstall incoming.12:16
lillismight as well do the alternate one12:17
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tinglehi i just got a ipod classic what app should i use to connect to my ipod?13:06
solotimproblem about mount.  I used ¨mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sda1¨ and the disk was mounted, but it can not be written, I have done some googling but without luck13:18
solotimanyone can kindly give me a hand?13:18
ablomensolotim, first try chmown-ing the /media/sda1 dir to your user13:21
solotimchown: changing ownership of `./sda5': Operation not permitted13:22
solotimablomen, ~13:23
solotimit´s current owner is root/root13:23
ablomensolotim, not the device, but the folder13:23
ablomen(first unmount again btw)13:23
solotimyes, the file, i;m sure13:23
solotimoh13:23
solotimi see13:23
solotimumount13:23
ablomenand you might want to look in the man page for uid and gid13:24
ablomen(man mount)13:25
solotimablomen, 1. i umount those device. 2. I chown and chgrp /media/sda5 3. I mount abgain. And the result is that the /media/sda5 owner return to root again. why?13:27
ablomenhmm i guess because fat doesnt support permissions, so its set as the user that mounts it without the uid and gid options set13:28
ablomenso look at those13:28
solotimok. thank you!13:28
ablomennp, good luck13:28
josehello all. never used IRC before, and it was easy to get on immediately.14:53
charlie-tcaGlad to hear that! :-)14:54
joseI found this address on the xubuntu home page because I've been having trouble getting DVDs to playback.  I've installed restricted stuff and then went as far as to uninstall Totem Movie Player and install VLC.  VLC got a little farther as far as playback, but it only plays a few frames, freezes, and not even sound happens.14:56
joseI think I may be asking too much of this old machine14:57
TheSheepor scratched dvd14:57
joseI thought about it being a scratched DVD, TheSheep.  But then I tried a number of DVDs, including a fresh, never been opened or played one, still to no avail.  What do you think?15:00
TheSheepjose: dirty dvd drive?15:01
TheSheepjose: btw, what processor and memory does that box have?15:01
josePentium II 450 MHz, 384 MB RAM, 13 GB Hard Drive15:02
josenever thought about a dirty dvd drive15:03
charlie-tcalibdvdcss2 installed?15:03
josehow would I clean that?15:03
joseI think so, if it was on the troubleshooting orange Ubuntu documentation page. charlie-tca15:03
joseHow do I do a quick check of libdvdcss2?15:04
charlie-tcaApplications -> Synaptic Package Manager ; When it opens hilight any application, then type libdvdcss215:05
charlie-tcaIt will go to it if it is there.15:05
josea synaptic package manager quick search pulls up : xubuntu restricted areas as installed, but no libdvdcss215:08
josextras, not areas15:09
charlie-tcaAdd the medibuntu repository per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu ; then you can add libdvdcss215:11
joseI'll try that, charlie-tca15:13
joseI love using the terminal.  It makes me feel like I know what I'm doing, and reminds me of when I was a kid and running Leisure Suit Larry and risking getting caught by my friend's parents while looking at digital hoo-has15:23
balllol @ "digital hoo-has"15:23
sinboxjose you were right though, those specs are very minimal for video/DVD playback15:24
joseI thought so, sinbox.  still it's worth it, just getting to mess around with it and learn stuff.  I'm already super happy with Xubuntu, as I wiped Windows XP from this box15:26
sinboxyou were running XP on that?15:27
sinboxsurely you meant crawling15:27
joseXP Pro aka XP Slow15:27
josething is, I used to be able to play DVDs on it ( I think I used PowerDVD)15:28
ballI had someone ask me on Thursday why Vista was running slowly on a computer.  Me: "How much RAM?" Nige: "512 Megabytes"15:28
ballMe: "well, there you go then."15:28
josewow15:28
sinboxfor a machine with your specs I would suggest taking a look at fluxbox or some other window managers, the fact that they are not full desktops make a huge difference in the power you have left to play with15:28
josehey charlie, did the medibuntu thing, now what?15:29
josesinbox, is fluxbox in addition to Xubuntu, or a different OS altogether?15:29
ballsinbox: all depends whether he or she has hardware motion video acceleration15:30
charlie-tcajose: Did you install libdvdcss2?15:30
sinboxit's instead of loging into XFCE you log into fluxbox, more of a learning curve there, and the people n the fluxbox channel are pretty dry (to say the least) but it saves a lot on ressources15:30
ballI'm a long time Blackbox user15:31
ball...but I'm learning to tolerate Xfce15:31
josewhat's the terminal command to do that?15:31
balljose: to do what?15:31
josesudo apt-get install blah blah?15:31
sinboxtrue ball, it's just I never bothered actually going for videos on my older machines15:32
charlie-tcasudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 ?15:32
ballsinbox: I so rarely sit at the console that video hasn't been a priority for me either.15:32
ballHow do I ask Xubuntu whether an X display supports Xvideo ?15:33
josei thought so.  I'm sorry, I should have explained that I don't really know computers, let alone linux stuff.  my main computer is a MacBook, cuz I'm dumb inclined, and they seem to be the most user friendly, but I like challenges, thus my Xubuntu project.  I can follow directions well15:33
balljose: I missed the start of this conversation.  What are you trying to play video on?15:34
sinbox[15:02] <jose> Pentium II 450 MHz, 384 MB RAM,15:35
ballPentium II 450 MHz should be adequate, but I'd up the RAM15:36
josePentium II 450MHz Gateway(OLD)  384MB of RAM 13 GB Hard Drive.  and it's a frankenstein of a machine my buddy was gonna trash years ago. so I took it15:36
ballNot sure whether SSE helps with video playback... that may depend on your card.15:36
joseoriginally designed to run Windows NT or 9815:36
ballXubuntu is a good choice of operating system for it.15:37
ballI'm running Xubuntu on a 550 MHz Pentium III with 512 Mbytes of RAM15:37
sinboxI have one just a bit above this jose (P3 500Mhz same RAM) which I use for streaming mp3, I couldn't with xubuntu but on fluxbox it works a treat15:37
joseCharlie: keeps telling me some linux headers are automatically installed and no longer necessary and to auto remove them.  should I?15:38
ballsinbox: it's serving up the streams, or playing them?15:38
josefluxbox is piquing my interest, just that if it's less user friendly than xubuntu, then I might never get it off the ground15:39
balljose: your window manager is a red herring15:39
sinboxjust sending live audio to the icecast server using darkice and running xchat next to that ball15:40
balljose: what's important is whether your video card is capable of accelerating video playback, and then whether X.org supports that extra hardware.15:40
ball...and how much RAM you have15:40
sinboxyes RAM makes a huge difference, if it tells you to remove the headers jose my guess is you can do it15:41
joseball, I know this box has played dvds before, and well. i used to use PowerDVD when it was running windows xp15:41
balljose: right, and that will have taken advantage of video playback hardware.15:41
* sinbox insert broadcom pcmcia wifi card in laptop and crosses fingers15:41
josehow do i check for vid card acceleration?15:42
balljose: so you want to make sure you're doing that on Linux too.15:42
balljose: hang on, I'll check.15:42
charlie-tcajose: Won't hurt to autoremove. They are not being used anything.15:43
balljose: try "lspci|grep VGA"15:43
ball(from a $ prompt)15:43
jose$?15:46
joseis that , oh yeah, in terminal15:47
josehold on15:47
sinboxI guess it's fw43cutter time15:48
balldaisycutter?15:49
joseATI Technologies Inc Rage/128 PF/PRO AGP 4x TMDS15:50
balljose: looks good then.  Have you tried vlc as a player?15:52
josethat's what is only playing a few frames then freezing. of course, ever since the installation of libdvdcss2 i haven't tried again, do I need to restart the computer?15:55
joseI already removed Totem Movie Player that it came with15:56
joseand replaced it with VLC15:56
balljose: where do you live btw?15:56
joseTotem gave me probs of NO playback, and I've used VLC on my MacBook with great success15:56
balljose: what format is the file you're trying to play?15:57
joseIn the United States, in Florida particularly.  how about you, ball?15:57
ballIllinois15:57
ballWhat model is your Dell?15:57
balls/Dell/Gateway/15:57
joseit's a Gateway15:57
joseoh15:58
josehold on15:58
jose front of the box says G6-450 right next to the RAMSTEIN sticker15:58
sinboxwow is it a huge box jose?15:59
ballDamn.16:00
ballApparently that will only take 384 Mbytes of RAM16:00
josethe file?  a DVD.16:00
ballAh.16:00
joseyes, a huge heavy box16:00
joseI ripped the face off because the power button broke16:00
sinboxI have a G6-300 :)16:00
ballreal geeks don't need plastic facias anyway ;-)16:01
sinboxyou could probably fit another MOBO a KVM and have space to spare in there16:01
joseI don't know why I want this box to live, I just...it's fun taking something worthless and making it go.  I mean, think about it, I'm talking to people in Illinois and other places on something that is not supposed to work!16:02
balloh damn, my hard disk just filled up16:02
josetried to play after libdvdcss2 install, same prob.  plays a few frames then picture freezes.  second counter still moves. no sound16:03
sinboxI use to love my G6, I kept it for 6 month as my main machine after being given an Athlon XP 180016:03
balljose: does it do that with every disk?16:04
sinboxhave you tried playing avi files on vlc jose?16:04
joseI don't have any on the computer right now(fresh install, nothing imported16:05
joselemme see if I can usb one onto it16:05
josewow forgot that the only USB ports are on the back of the machine16:11
adamany one got an ATI card running in xubuntu16:14
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Guest16013any one got an ATI card running in xubuntu16:14
sri_barencei have xubuntu with ATI Radeon Xpress 200M16:15
sinboxnot me16:15
Guest16013whats the benefits of this distro compared to ubuntu?16:17
sri_barenceI am running Intrepid (8.10) with the proprietary 'fglrx' driver16:17
sinboxlighter desktop Guest1601316:18
Guest16013sri_barence, you got compiz running?16:18
sri_barencexubuntu uses 'xfwm4' as window manager, so no compiz16:18
Guest16013xfwm4?16:19
sri_barencebut xfwm4 has nice compositing effects16:19
sri_barencexubuntu uses Xfce as main environment.16:19
sri_barenceXfce uses less system resources than GNOME, so it runs a bit better on my older machines.16:20
Guest16013so no themes then?16:20
sri_barenceI have dozens of themes.16:20
joseawesome, avi files palyback on vlc, sometimes frame stops, but sound continues anf frame catches up, i'm guessing i can adjust settings within vlc itself, right?16:20
joseball, yes it does it with every disk16:21
sri_barenceXfce can use any GTK themes.16:21
sri_barenceBut you can't use Emerald themes with the xfwm4 window manager.16:21
Guest16013what is the main difference between distros?16:23
Odd-rationalethe main difference between various distros is the package management system16:23
joseball?  you still there?  anyone know how to make vlc less choppy?16:26
sinboxnot sure jose, you could ask in #videolan maybe, but if it skips/pauses frames on  an avi then that would point to a lack of ressources for your main problem with the DVDs16:30
joseok, thanks sinbox16:31
sri_barence'distros' means different flavors of Linux such as RedHat, SuSe, Debian, or Ubuntu16:36
Adamhow can i get list of available apps in terminal16:41
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GreedyBAnyone know if its possible to get temperatures from external drives?16:41
GreedyBerr wrong window my bad16:41
Ad1984hi16:42
Ad1984how do i get list of available apps in xubuntu?16:42
sri_barencehttp://www.xubuntu.org/16:45
sri_barenceif that doesn't help, I can answer some specific questions.16:46
sri_barenceIf you are running xubuntu, you can get a list of installed apps with System>Add/Remove...16:50
charlie-tcaAd1984: What do mean "available apps"? There are tens of thousands16:53
sinboxthat will list all apps: installed and available16:53
sri_barenceAdd/Remove has filter that allows you to see installed apps only, too.16:57
ballWell damn. My wireless router just threw a wobbler16:58
ballI couldn't connect.16:58
tangentcollisioneeepc17:22
tangentcollisionI guess it's time to install17:23
sinboxdon't do it17:23
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Guest99870how do i install xfce wallapaper or themes?17:36
ballsinbox: don't install Xubuntu?17:40
Guest99870php isnt working correctly17:49
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encbladexphello18:00
encbladexpping charlie-tca18:00
charlie-tcahello18:00
encbladexpi am the Developer of pyNeighborhood18:01
encbladexpi want to join the pyneighborhood Projekt @ LP18:01
charlie-tcaNice to meet you. What do I have to do with it?18:01
tangentcollisionwoo, installing eeexubuntu18:02
encbladexpcharlie-tca, do you have enough rights to make me Member of https://launchpad.net/pyneighborhood?18:03
sri_barenceGuest99870: do you need help setting wallpaper/18:03
charlie-tcaLet me see what I did there18:04
charlie-tcaI wonder if we could make you maintainer?18:05
encbladexpi dont know ;-)18:05
charlie-tcaencbladexp: I seem to be able to do anything. I assume I got there by adding pyneighborhood as a project18:05
Guest99870sri_barence, yes please18:06
charlie-tcaso I could link a bug to it. Do you want to be maintainer?18:06
encbladexpjepp18:06
sri_barenceEasy.  First right click desktop, and Choose Settings18:06
encbladexp"Project Owner" « That what i want18:06
encbladexpBy default, whoever registered the project is its owner. However, you can change this to any other person or team in Launchpad by following the Change details link and then selecting the People tab.18:07
encbladexpi hope that helps18:07
sri_barencethen 'Settings Manager', then 'Desktop'18:07
sri_barenceIn 'Desktop Preferences' dialog, find 'Show image'18:08
charlie-tcaSure does. I never saw this before18:09
tangentcollisionis xubuntu xfce?18:09
tangentcollisionjust making sure18:09
erovyes18:11
tangentcollisionokay, cool18:12
tangentcollisionI'm installing eee-xubuntu18:12
sinboxencbladexp, so with pyneighborhood I can navigate shares on the network including those on windows machines?18:12
encbladexpsinbox: yes18:12
sinboxok just wanted to make sure :018:13
tangentcollisionis it possible to get fluxbox on the eee?18:13
tangentcollision*version of xubuntu18:13
encbladexpVersion 0.4 of pyNeighborhood is very old and doesnt work well under Ubuntu since Hardy18:13
sinboxshould be I would have thought, tangentcollision are you uthe same as tangent in fluxbox?18:13
tangentcollisionnope18:13
encbladexpVersion 0.5 is in Development at the Moment, i hope we get all Bugs fixed the next 2 Weeks18:13
tangentcollisionI am my own18:13
sinboxOK I was just wondering tangentcollision :)18:14
erovhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox http://www.fluxbuntu.org18:14
tangentcollisionnow I'm in fluxbox :D18:14
tangentcollisionthanks erov18:14
sinboxI'm having some samba problems encbladexp but that is nothing to do with you I guess though18:15
Guest99870xubuntu is so fast isnt it18:15
erovyeah.. i like how fast it is.. and still use my KDE apps without the overhead18:15
tangentcollisiongod I wish this usb stick was 2.018:24
zoredacheare you sure it isn't?  Almoast all usb flash drives larger then 128mb are usb 2.0 in my experience18:26
Sinister`how do you run a program as a differnt user ?18:26
charlie-tcaencbladexp: done18:27
charlie-tcaAll I wanted to do was link a bug from launchpad to pyneighborhood bugs18:28
tangentcollisionSinister`: su18:29
tangentcollisionsu <username>18:29
tangentcollisionthen run program18:29
dj_bushidodoes anybody have an idea for a good image sequencer?18:29
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encbladexpcharlie-tca: thank, no problems18:33
charlie-tcaYou are welcome. Sorry about the wait.18:33
RandyboYAnyone knows of error 17 in grub? I have a dualboot with XP and now it will not go further the point of grub error 17 whatever that is...18:34
tangentcollisionit's common18:35
charlie-tcaYes, RandyboY. Usually means you need to reinstall GRUB18:35
tangentcollisionhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44294518:35
Sinister`i need to run a program as root useto be i could change the icon in kde to open as a differnt user how do i do it now ?18:36
RandyboYcharlie-tca, and how do i do that?18:36
tangentcollisionSinister`: alt+f2 sudo thunar (or whatever the file manager is)18:37
tangentcollisionthen go to the icon18:37
tangentcollisionchange it18:37
charlie-tcaRandyboY: this is the easiest method I know: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery18:40
csc_hello18:40
charlie-tcago to Recover Grub18:40
charlie-tcahello18:40
csc_i installed firestarter. it appears in the menu of xfce4 desktop. i can run it as a normal user from the menu. however when i try to launch it from command line it requires root privilegies. i would like to know how the menu of xfce calls the program without asking me to be root18:42
RandyboYcharlie-tca, ill take a look. Thanks so far :-)18:42
charlie-tcaDoes it require your password if you make changes?18:43
charlie-tcaRandyboY: You´re welcome. I´m glad I could help. Good luck18:43
Odd-rationalecsc_: possibly, sudo saves your password for 5 min. so you might have started firestarter within 5 min of using another sudo/gksudo command.... try running "sudo -k" then launch firestarter from the menu... see what happens...18:44
csc_ok18:44
csc_let me try18:44
Odd-rationalei think the menu uses "gksudo firestarter" as the command18:44
XaeroOnehow do I access the hard drive using a live cd via teminal?18:44
zoredacheXaeroOne: run a command like 'sudo sfdisk -l' to list the partitions18:45
csc_Odd-rationale, you are right18:46
XaeroOnecommand not found18:46
Odd-rationaleXaeroOne: first find the device name /dev/<device> from "sudo fdisk -l" (lowercase L). then run "sudo mount /dev/<device> /mnt"18:46
zoredachethen use a command like 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /somemountpoint'  the somemountpoint should be an empty directory somewhere, and the /dev/snnn should be the partition you want18:46
Odd-rationalethen cd to /mnt18:46
Odd-rationalecsc_: i'm always right... :P18:46
XaeroOnethere is no mnt18:46
XaeroOnepcoslinux18:47
* charlie-tca nods at Odd-rationale 18:47
XaeroOneI need to recover grub18:47
Odd-rationaleXaeroOne: well, you can use whatever mount point you wish... create one if it does not... /mnt was just an example...18:47
Odd-rationaleyou can sudo mkdir /mnt18:47
XaeroOneso i have pcoslinux live running and got ssh access to this computer18:47
charlie-tcaXaeroOne: This works good for gub recovery:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery18:49
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Guest99870how can i add my progs to the panel in xfce?19:03
zoredacheGuest99870: right click and choose 'add new item' select launcher from the list, then fill in the details19:04
Guest99870where are programs installed to19:05
Guest99870?19:05
zoredachemany places, it depends on the program.  Frequently, the primary binary will be in /usr/bin though.19:06
zoredachecan you give me an example?19:06
zoredacheif you installed with apt/synaptic you can get a list of all the files and where they where installed by running a command like 'dpkg -L {packagename}' in a terminal19:07
Guest99870zoredache, how do i get the propr icon to show too?19:08
zoredachethat is the tricky part...  frequenly icons are stored in /usr/share/pixmaps, but some programs don't come with an icon, or don't store it there19:09
zoredacheif you use the dpkg -L command to get a list of files in a package you can usually look for files with a png or xpm extention one of them may be the programs primary icon19:11
Guest99870zoredache, great thankyou19:11
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Guest99870where is the terminal file?19:20
Guest99870zoredache, where can i find the terminal to link it to the panel?19:21
forcessaluton19:50
charlie-tca_hello, forces19:52
forcescharlie-tca, o719:52
forceshow can I install xubuntu 8.04.1 in my acer aspire one?19:52
charlie-tca_Use the alternate cd19:52
forceswhat is the best way if you dont have cd-rom19:53
forcescharlie-tca, I dont have cd-rom19:53
charlie-tca_I knew there was a catch ;)19:53
charlie-tca_I'm looking it up19:54
charlie-tca_go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne19:57
R1cochet!video edit20:13
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about video edit20:13
TheSheep!medibuntu | R1cochet20:17
ubottuR1cochet: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org20:17
R1cochetTheSheep: thank you20:20
beaglesnufhello all! xu 8.10, 4.4.3 backport - question on thunar actions20:22
beaglesnuftrying to run a command through terminal, but nothing is happening: xfce4-terminal -H -e "aria2c --no-conf --show-files"20:24
beaglesnufbasically run the aria2 command to show bittorrent indexes in a terminal so that i may choose the file to download20:25
beaglesnufthe thing is that the command appears correct in all ways and replacing xfce4-terminal with xterm results in the same, namely nothing20:26
beaglesnufalso strange that "md5sum %f" does not work, yet "shred -fuz %f" does...20:27
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beaglesnufbtw aria2 is installed and working properly, just getting thunar actions to run the command...20:33
TheSheepbeaglesnuf: try -x20:39
Guest24752can i install windows fonts on linux?20:40
TheSheepGuest24752: yes, just put htem in .fonts in your home directory and run fc-cache20:41
Guest24752can i configure them so my system uses them?20:42
beaglesnuftried -x, no go. first thing i tried when the action did not work, not sure what the prob is20:43
beaglesnufguest: yes you can20:44
TheSheepbeaglesnuf: also skip the quotes20:44
TheSheepGuest24752: actually, just install the msttcorefonts package20:45
Guest24752use apt-get?20:45
TheSheepGuest24752: or synaptic20:46
TheSheepGuest24752: I think you need to add the restricted repository though20:46
TheSheep!restricted20:46
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats20:46
beaglesnufor copy them from a cleanly installed winbox (C:\Windows\Fonts) and paste them into /etc/fonts20:48
beaglesnufsheep: with quotes, a terminal session is brought up, nothing happens without. ill go back to my old ways and run aria2 through the terminal, maybe the next thunar build will resolve this. going to file a bug. thanks.20:52
Guest24752when i run a flash movie its really clciky any ideas>#20:53
beaglesnufanother question: set panel launcher to unmount a device, works fine no prob: "umount /media/x"20:53
beaglesnufbut when try: "sync && umount /media/x", no go (regardless of whether the command is run through terminal via the luancher, or not). is this the expected behavior?20:54
beaglesnufguest: verify you have latest flash plugin (assuming you are using nonfree): 10.0.15.320:55
beaglesnufguest: close background download tasks + check offending cpu & mem hogs through top (or htop)20:56
Guest24752when i run a flash movie its really clciky any ideas>#how do i check if i have the latest?20:58
beaglesnufbtw i set my user to allow for umount w/o sudo via visudo, so "umount /media/x" is a valid, working command20:58
beaglesnufwhich browser?20:58
Guest24752firefox20:58
Guest24752is there any other browsers in linux i could use?20:59
beaglesnuftype "about:plugins" in your address field20:59
TheSheep!browsers20:59
ubottuBrowsers available for Ubuntu: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), w3m (terminal-based), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), edbrowse (command-line), Opera (Qt, proprietary)20:59
beaglesnufor better yet, visit http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/about/20:59
beaglesnufand it should autodetect and return the version you are using21:00
beaglesnuftype "about: plugins" (without the space between the : and plugins) - darn smiley shortcut!21:01
knomehaha21:01
Guest24752i got 10.5 r1521:01
beaglesnufthat is the latest version21:02
Guest24752i have not installed my ati drivers is that a problem?21:02
beaglesnufoh yes it could21:03
beaglesnufyou could also turn off antialiasing and hinting to improve scroll smoothness21:04
Guest24752beaglesnuf, when i install the ati driver the whole screen looks no where near as sharp as it is now21:04
beaglesnufperhaps the ati driver took over the antialiasing setting21:05
Guest24752beaglesnuf, do i just have to re set it21:05
Guest24752once ati is installe21:05
beaglesnufperhaps, go to settings and reconfigure your ati server settings21:06
SookeHi21:07
beaglesnufhello21:07
Adambeaglesnuf, yes its gone smudgy again21:08
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Guest24324i wonder where the ati settings ar21:08
beaglesnufso can you guys run multiple && chained commands in a launcher (run in terminal, or without)?21:08
beaglesnufshould be applications > settings21:09
beaglesnufanyone have problems with the clipboard? buffers do not retain data if apps from which they were copied from are closed before the paste operation is complete (i.e. text from a file). i needed the clipman plugin to resolve this (at least partially). anyone else notice the same?21:16
TheSheepbeaglesnuf: that's because linux doesn't really have a clipboard21:22
zoredachebeaglesnuf: the xfce4-clipman-plugin seems to make the clipboard a lot nicer to work with21:23
beaglesnufit does. i am using xclip to perform some simple clipboard duties. the reason i mention this is that ubuntu handles copy and pasting as one would expect coming from win/mac. likely provided by gnome libs, but it would be nice if xubuntu could  do the same. is there another workaround besides xclip and the clipman plugin?21:26
beaglesnufit does as in the clipman plugin makes the clipboard nicer to work with...21:28
beaglesnufalso regarding: How To Wrap Desktop Icon Text (ala GNOME)? http://forum.xfce.org/index.php?topic=4367.021:30
forceswhat is the best way to install xubuntu in acer aspire one, without cd-rom and another pc21:30
beaglesnufi likely did not get an answer as this issue may be more of a xubuntu quirk (i believe i remeber icon text wrapping in vector linux)21:30
* forces only have windows and 2 usb memory (128MB, 2GB)21:30
beaglesnufeasy answer: find a friend with a cd-rom and another pc21:31
zoredacheextract the mini.iso onto one of your memory sticks, and make sure you have a working internet connection21:31
zoredache!mini21:32
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD21:32
beaglesnufwubi21:33
zoredacheforces: you might also want to read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne21:34
beaglesnufthanks guys for the help - tty all laters21:37
forceszoredache, I did21:40
* forces away..21:40
Adamwould compix wwork with xubuntu?21:40
forcesAdam, yes21:41
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forcesif you have 3d aceleration21:41
Guest34818i do21:41
forcescompiz work in linux21:41
Guest34818i have installed compiz but dont know where to open it lol21:41
forcesLOL!21:41
forcesGuest34818, compiz --replace21:41
forcesin terminal21:41
Guest34818what did that do?21:42
slow-motionhi21:55
arualavihello21:56
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sri_barencexubuntu = slow...23:59

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