| Sput | seele: thanks a lot, just have read the summary for now, but it sounds like a very well-made base for us to improve on quassel's usability :) | 00:25 |
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| Sput | will read the full thing tomorrow once I got decent internet access again | 00:25 |
| JontheEchidna | _Sime: Could I bug you about a crash I've encountered with my python kcm? | 00:48 |
| ScottK-palm | NCommander: What's up with my p-a-s changes for kde4bindings? | 01:00 |
| NCommander | It stopped libqyoto from building on ARM it seems | 01:01 |
| NCommander | (or being uploaded) | 01:01 |
| seele | p-a-s? | 01:01 |
| ScottK-palm | Packages arch specific | 01:02 |
| ScottK-palm | It's for saying don't build certain packages on specific architectures. | 01:03 |
| ScottK-palm | NCommander: There's a soyuz bug open right now saying if any binaries a mentioned in p-a-s the entire source package gets skipped. | 01:04 |
| ScottK-palm | Which is consitent with the hppa build being missing. | 01:04 |
| NCommander | *winces* | 01:04 |
| ScottK-palm | consitent/consistent. | 01:05 |
| ScottK-palm | So I'm skeptical that my p-a-s stuff is affecting only one package. | 01:05 |
| NCommander | I'll have to look closer at the source of the failure | 01:06 |
| ScottK-palm | I'll try and have a look though. | 01:06 |
| ScottK-palm | I need to double check the hppa changes I made in any case. | 01:07 |
| ScottK-palm | NCommander: If it was a failure to upload error, Soyuz is know to have timing issues and drop binaries every now and then. | 01:10 |
| NCommander | o_o; | 01:11 |
| ScottK-palm | I'd ask kiko if he can rescue it. | 01:11 |
| ScottK-palm | My theory on why Soyuz isn't getting opened has to do with embarassment. | 01:12 |
| seele | besides kpackagekit and quassel what else was there to review? | 01:12 |
| ScottK-palm | seele: kvirc? It's the other IRC contender. | 01:12 |
| * ScottK-palm goes back to pretending to look at the mountains (night time car travel and I'm not driving). | 01:16 | |
| JontheEchidna | _Sime: actually I think I know what's causing the problem. Dunno how to work around/fix it though... Jockey uses a GUI-tookit agnostic backend in another process, relying on the frontend to grab data for populating the UI. Could be funkiness with threads. | 01:35 |
| JontheEchidna | which cause kcmshell4 to crash | 01:35 |
| NCommander | Riddell, poke | 02:22 |
| NCommander | ScottK, ping? | 05:08 |
| freeflying | NCommander: arounds? | 06:28 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Pong? | 06:50 |
| ScottK | Home now. | 06:50 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Looking here: http://buildd.debian.org/quinn-diff/Packages-arch-specific it looks like my p-a-s changes for kde4bindings/mono on hppa got dropped somewhere. | 07:02 |
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| Arby | JontheEchidna: do you have the code handy that you used to build the kcm module for jockey? | 09:34 |
| Arby | I need to do system-config-printer-kde at some point | 09:34 |
| Arby | so I'm looking for examples | 09:35 |
| Arby | I've got the example code from svn | 09:35 |
| Arby | but it's not that obvious to me | 09:35 |
| === jussio1 is now known as jussi01 | ||
| apachelogger | can anyone reach ftp.kde.org | 10:45 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: Connection to Server Refused here | 11:04 |
| apachelogger | jussi01: ok, thx | 11:14 |
| NCommander | freeflying, for some definitions of around | 11:24 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: is there a reason kde4.mk enforces the usage of quilt? | 12:17 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, dislike quilt? | 12:19 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, and feel like sponsoring more ARM fixes? | 12:19 |
| === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde | ||
| * NCommander looks at Riddell or ScottK | 12:32 | |
| Riddell | apachelogger: not especially, that's just what it's always done | 12:59 |
| glade88 | Does the kdebase-workspace package has the rss dataengine missing? | 13:12 |
| glade88 | plasmoidviewer rssnow -- does not show rss in the list. neither do I have the files /usr/lib/kde4/plasma_engine_rss.so and /usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-dataengine-rss.desktop | 13:14 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: possibly | 13:14 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, kdeaccessibity needs sponsoring, and kdeartwork will ... | 13:14 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: are you fine with making it optional? | 13:14 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I think about adding an if condition for the include, that way one just needs to add the build-dep if debian/patches/series is present | 13:15 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: did you upload accessibility to a ppa and is the patch applied upstream? | 13:16 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, no, and no. Haven't filed a bug yet | 13:17 |
| * NCommander isn't having a great amount of luck getting his patches to flow into KDE | 13:17 | |
| apachelogger | you have to poke the people hard enough, bug triage takes way too long | 13:17 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, care to help? | 13:21 |
| NCommander | kdeaccessibility is on its way to my PPA | 13:22 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: will commit the kmag change if it works | 13:26 |
| NCommander | kmag? | 13:26 |
| NCommander | oh, the change you had in the repo | 13:26 |
| apachelogger | hm | 13:33 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: why does inline qreal clamp not return a qmin anymore? | 13:34 |
| NCommander | wait what? | 13:34 |
| apachelogger | - return qMin(1.0, qMax(0.0, n)); | 13:34 |
| apachelogger | + return (1.0, qMax(0.0, double(n))); | 13:34 |
| apachelogger | patch in accessibility | 13:34 |
| NCommander | O_o;, crap | 13:35 |
| NCommander | That's a bug | 13:35 |
| NCommander | :-) | 13:35 |
| * NCommander sighs | 13:35 | |
| NCommander | I think I'm slowly loosing my sanity on this porting project | 13:35 |
| apachelogger | sanity be gone! | 13:35 |
| NCommander | Uh | 13:36 |
| NCommander | I'm looking at that patch now | 13:36 |
| NCommander | It still returns qMin ... | 13:36 |
| NCommander | - return qMin(1.0, qMax(0.0, n)); | 13:36 |
| NCommander | + return qMin(1.0, qMax(0.0, double(n))); | 13:36 |
| NCommander | That's what I see on accessibility ... | 13:36 |
| apachelogger | hm | 13:36 |
| apachelogger | maybe my kate went silly | 13:36 |
| * NCommander hits apachelogger | 13:36 | |
| NCommander | don't make me doubt my sanity | 13:37 |
| apachelogger | hm | 13:37 |
| apachelogger | funny bug :D | 13:37 |
| NCommander | Your a KDE developer, fix it :-P | 13:37 |
| apachelogger | kate rendering is pure magic | 13:37 |
| NCommander | Qt is pure crap w.r.t. to portability | 13:37 |
| apachelogger | seriously, I dont think the kate devs even understand it :P | 13:37 |
| NCommander | Magic crap ;-) | 13:37 |
| NCommander | write kvim | 13:37 |
| * apachelogger blames the syntax highlight stuff | 13:38 | |
| apachelogger | NCommander: kate == kvim | 13:38 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, so it was just a katie bug, and not my sanity? | 13:38 |
| apachelogger | yes | 13:38 |
| NCommander | well | 13:39 |
| NCommander | That's a first. | 13:39 |
| === bddebian2 is now known as bddebian | ||
| === kblizzzek is now known as blizzz | ||
| apachelogger | NCommander: please test the kmag color stuff on arm | 14:44 |
| NCommander | ?? | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | runtime QA | 14:44 |
| NCommander | from kdeaccessibility? | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | yes | 14:45 |
| NCommander | Your assuming my ARM device has a working X server | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | oh dear | 14:45 |
| NCommander | hrm | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: find someone with :P | 14:45 |
| * NCommander sees if he can just use Xnest | 14:45 | |
| apachelogger | if it works I'll commit the change upstream | 14:46 |
| * NCommander has no startkde script | 14:46 | |
| apachelogger | -workspace | 14:46 |
| NCommander | Ok, my ARM box is still doing a build of artwork so when that finishes, I'll test | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | okies | 14:46 |
| NCommander | wow | 15:04 |
| NCommander | Trolltech responded to me on their dbus bug | 15:04 |
| NCommander | "We're not broken, KDE must change" | 15:04 |
| NCommander | -_-; | 15:04 |
| NCommander | *sigh* | 15:04 |
| DreadKnight | how do i start bluetooth from command line? | 16:37 |
| ScottK-desktop | Riddell: Have you seen: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/?p=211 and/or discussed it with bryce? It'd be really nice to get rid of that problem ... | 16:39 |
| === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde | ||
| seele | wow.. MD5 has been broken | 16:46 |
| seele | http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/rogue-ca/ | 16:46 |
| jtechidna | ScottK-desktop: Bryce and Martin have been discussing that directly in an LP bug somewheres | 16:47 |
| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| ScottK-desktop | JontheEchidna: Great. Thanks. | 16:47 |
| JontheEchidna | last I saw they were asking the patch author his opinion | 16:48 |
| ScottK-desktop | seele: Interesting. The theoretical risk has been known for quite some time. That's the first claim of a practical use I've seen. | 16:49 |
| vorian | ScottK-desktop: thanks for the sync request | 17:41 |
| ScottK-desktop | vorian: You're welcome. | 17:41 |
| vorian | i've been waiting for those folks to fix some licensing issues | 17:42 |
| Tm_T | hi | 17:42 |
| vorian | hi | 17:42 |
| Tm_T | other than me using LPIA arch ? | 17:42 |
| Tm_T | I noticed that main repos are bit, how would I say, bare here and there | 17:43 |
| vorian | if memory serves, there was a public domain issue with some of the docs | 17:44 |
| Tm_T | interesting | 17:44 |
| === jussio1 is now known as jussi01 | ||
| Riddell | ScottK-desktop: as far as I caught they want to keep that X patch as it speeds up a lot of things | 18:53 |
| Riddell | :( | 18:53 |
| Riddell | and recon that KDE should work around it | 18:53 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: so we should have kept the old bluez and patched it to work with the intrepid kernel? | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | somehow I find the attitude flawed TBH | 19:11 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: what about quilt? | 19:11 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: alledgedly the old bluez didn't work with current linux | 19:13 |
| Riddell | that was the rationale for last minute update in intrepid anyway | 19:14 |
| Riddell | what about quilt? | 19:14 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: <apachelogger> Riddell: are you fine with making it optional? | 19:15 |
| apachelogger | <apachelogger> Riddell: I think about adding an if condition for the include, that way one just needs to add the build-dep if debian/patches/series is present | 19:15 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: if you can get it work then go ahead | 19:20 |
| apachelogger | aye aye | 19:20 |
| NCommander | apachelogger or Riddell, feel like sponsoring another ARM portability fix? | 19:22 |
| NCommander | or ScottK | 19:22 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: did you test kmag yet? | 19:27 |
| NCommander | Remember when I said no working X :-P | 19:27 |
| * apachelogger insists on runtime QA | 19:28 | |
| vorian | :o | 19:28 |
| NCommander | WHere is the damn startkde script | 19:28 |
| NCommander | its not in workspace | 19:28 |
| apachelogger | Riddell, NCommander, vorian: if you got time for a bit of testing http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/96199/ | 19:29 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: kdebase-workspace-bin: /usr/bin/startkde | 19:29 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: why would you need a complete KDE session anyway? | 19:29 |
| vorian | apachelogger: sure, as soon as Iget home | 19:30 |
| apachelogger | vorian: iGet? | 19:30 |
| * NCommander sees if he can get something to work | 19:30 | |
| vorian | eek, yah, i'm on the phone (i get) | 19:31 |
| apachelogger | vorian: iPhone? | 19:31 |
| vorian | of course :p | 19:31 |
| apachelogger | iGet should be just fine then :P | 19:31 |
| vorian | hehe | 19:31 |
| apachelogger | you just had a bit of a case issue | 19:31 |
| * Arby does the new feature dance | 19:42 | |
| Arby | system-config-printer-kde now does ipp browsing :) | 19:42 |
| apachelogger | no clue what that might be | 19:44 |
| apachelogger | *drinking tea* | 19:44 |
| apachelogger | policykit-kde release coming up \o/ | 19:45 |
| Arby | neither have I really, but it means I can connect to printers on remote machines now :P | 19:47 |
| Arby | just not using samba | 19:48 |
| Arby | because setting up shared printers on samba has been a pain | 19:48 |
| JontheEchidna | <3 print function | 19:52 |
| ScottK-desktop | Riddell: bluez worked fine for me before it got updated. | 19:55 |
| ScottK-desktop | NCommander: I see you got a nice mention in Joerg's blog. | 19:58 |
| NCommander | I did? | 19:58 |
| NCommander | link? | 19:58 |
| jpds | NCommander: http://blog.ganneff.de/blog/ | 20:00 |
| NCommander | Well ... | 20:00 |
| NCommander | Go figure | 20:00 |
| ScottK-desktop | NCommander: Do you still need some sponsoring? | 20:01 |
| NCommander | kdeartwork | 20:01 |
| NCommander | ^ - ScottK-desktop | 20:01 |
| ScottK-desktop | NCommander: Link? | 20:02 |
| NCommander | lp:~kubuntu-members/kdeartwork/ubuntu | 20:02 |
| * ScottK looks | 20:03 | |
| ScottK | NCommander: Kdeartwork uploaded. Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu (JontheEchidna too) | 20:36 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Congratulations. One more built. What's next? | 21:13 |
| NCommander | bluetooth or plasma-addons | 21:14 |
| ScottK | Well bluetooth is broken anyway. | 21:14 |
| jussi01 | ScottK: any idea of when that might be fixed? | 21:14 |
| ScottK | Nope. | 21:14 |
| ScottK | superm1 was helping with it, but I think got distracted. | 21:15 |
| * jussi01 misses bluetooth | 21:15 | |
| Arby | JontheEchidna: nice work on the jockey kcm module. feel like taking a look at s-c-p-kde :) | 22:39 |
| Arby | I've made a start but got stuck | 22:39 |
| Arby | any idea what would cause | 22:39 |
| Arby | The service 'Printer Configuration' does not provide an interface 'KCModule' with keyword 'system-config-printer-kde/scpk-kcm.py The factory does not support creating components of the specified type | 22:39 |
| JontheEchidna | Arby: actually I'm stuck with jockey.... | 22:39 |
| Arby | heh :) | 22:39 |
| Arby | still crashing then? | 22:39 |
| JontheEchidna | no, I got around that | 22:39 |
| Arby | cool | 22:40 |
| JontheEchidna | by crippling the program | 22:40 |
| Arby | ah | 22:40 |
| JontheEchidna | but the ui shows up in its own window because I can't set the parent of the ui to the KCModule because it's in another class | 22:40 |
| Arby | hmm, sounds similar to my problem actually | 22:41 |
| Arby | if I run scpk-kcm in the source tree the ui loads | 22:41 |
| Arby | but if I try from system settings I get the above error | 22:41 |
| JontheEchidna | any console output? | 22:41 |
| Arby | not from system settings | 22:42 |
| Arby | kcmshell4 gives | 22:42 |
| Arby | Loading pykcm.py | 22:42 |
| Arby | WIdget parent:None | 22:42 |
| Arby | \o/ Yippie! it kind of works! | 22:42 |
| Arby | component data: <PyKDE4.kdecore.KComponentData object at 0xb28f5aac> | 22:42 |
| Arby | Killed | 22:42 |
| JontheEchidna | and everythings works? | 22:43 |
| Arby | (I killed it deliberately) | 22:43 |
| Arby | no, the UI is unresponsive, can't click anything | 22:43 |
| Arby | window just hangs | 22:43 |
| JontheEchidna | could you paste your code somewhere nice? | 22:43 |
| Arby | it loads but nothing more | 22:43 |
| Arby | yeah | 22:43 |
| Arby | hang on | 22:43 |
| JontheEchidna | in my case the misbehavior happens regardless of being in kcmshell or SS | 22:44 |
| Arby | JontheEchidna: just the PyKcm class http://paste.ubuntu.com/96333/ | 22:45 |
| Arby | the whole program is about 3.5k lines | 22:46 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm | 22:46 |
| JontheEchidna | well you won't be needing your own kappliation, systemsettings/kcmshell has that | 22:46 |
| JontheEchidna | and by the looks of it the actual UI is in the GUI() class? | 22:47 |
| Arby | yes | 22:47 |
| JontheEchidna | looks like you're gonna run in to the same problem I am later on then... | 22:47 |
| Arby | I just copied the main event loop as a starting point | 22:48 |
| JontheEchidna | it's probably freezing because it's trying to be its own kapplication | 22:48 |
| JontheEchidna | you can remove lines 27 and 31, that much I know | 22:48 |
| JontheEchidna | but if its setting up the UI in GUI() I have no clue how you'll be able to set up the UI with the KCModule being the parent | 22:49 |
| JontheEchidna | and you'll run in to the problem I am running in to. you'll have to tell uic.loadUi to load the .ui file with no parent | 22:50 |
| JontheEchidna | thus making it a toplevel window | 22:50 |
| Arby | yeah I see your point | 22:50 |
| * JontheEchidna is sorta trying to make himself see his point :P | 22:50 | |
| Arby | thanks for the tips | 22:51 |
| Arby | I think I'll have to poke this some more tomorrow | 22:51 |
| JontheEchidna | I think I'd try to merge GUI() with PyKcm() | 22:51 |
| JontheEchidna | since PyKcm is setting up the GUI now | 22:51 |
| stdin | KMainWindow is very naughty | 22:51 |
| Arby | that's a huge job, GUI contains a large part of the functionality | 22:52 |
| Arby | in what way | 22:52 |
| JontheEchidna | I can't merge the GUI and PyKcm classes because the gui class has jockey's AbstractUI class as a baseclass already | 22:52 |
| Arby | there's more to this than meets the eye :) | 22:53 |
| JontheEchidna | and I get a metaclass conflict if I try to make PyKcm a base class of both KCModule and jockey.ui.AbstractUI | 22:53 |
| * JontheEchidna tears hair out | 22:53 | |
| * Arby gives up for the night | 22:53 | |
| stdin | apparently caused by KMainWindow http://paste.ubuntu.com/96338/ | 22:53 |
| stdin | seeing as using QWidget as the base for my class stops the horrible crash | 22:54 |
| JontheEchidna | oh yeah, KMainWindow'll do that :P | 22:54 |
| JontheEchidna | it's especially naughty in pykde | 22:54 |
| stdin | no, it actually *works* in PyKDE :p | 22:55 |
| === santiago-ve is now known as mauler | ||
| === mauler is now known as santiago-ve | ||
| stdin | I can't figure out exactly what's causing the issue there though | 22:55 |
| stdin | when QObject::event calls qDeleteInEventHandler, it calls it with "this", so where the pointer changed from 0xbf806b98 to 0x06 is a mystery | 22:56 |
| === ScottK-desktop is now known as ScottK3 | ||
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