[00:00] <exothermc> Ya I never have tried to figure out a linux desktop.  I'm sure they work fine, but I just use them as servers and keep x11 off them.
[00:00] <uga> for ex, when I plug my mobilephone, it wants it to be the main networking interface
[00:00] <uga> I wonder if it could manage using gprs
[00:00] <exothermc> ughhhhh
[00:00] <uga> but I hope not! (my mobile is charged only through usb)
[00:01] <uga> thus I suggest killing networkconfig =)
[00:01] <uga> and doing manually
[00:01] <webbi> i just found that to solve my problem i need to update some libraries, for example: kdebase-workspace-4.1.80-10 to 4.1.85
[00:01] <webbi> how could i do that in kubuntu?
[00:01] <uga> webbi: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[00:01] <uga> tht would update all packs
[00:01] <exothermc> uga: The next challenge is to get the sessions from konsole 3.5 to 4.1
[00:02] <webbi> uga i tried but it says that it's up-to-date
[00:02] <webbi> is there anyway that i can force it?
[00:02] <webbi> or maybe i need some new source with those versions
[00:02] <uga> webbi: did apt-get update show any errors?
[00:02] <uga> or did you try any different mirrors?
[00:03] <uga> I wouldn't suggets installing separate packages manually. possibly stuff will break
[00:03] <uga> webbi: anyway, if you can download the .deb, you can install it (at your own risk) using "dpkg -i packagename.deb"
[00:04] <webbi> uga: you are right... i will try
[00:04] <webbi> or continue searching
[00:05] <webbi> uga: do you know where is the source code of (for example) lancelot launcher on kubuntu ? so i try to recompile it
[00:06] <hallowname> uga: kdeplasma-addons? or is lancelot in base now?
[00:06] <webbi> hallowname: im not sure, because i just update and they appear... but suppose they are in kdeplasma-addons, where should i look for it in my pc?
[00:07] <webbi> or there is some -dev package?
[00:07] <hallowname> webbi: you didn't compile it from source? i dunno what package it's in...
[00:08] <uga> webbi: I install everything from svn source
[00:10] <hallowname> webbi: mine's under /free/kdesvn/kdeplasma-addons/applets/lancelot, so maybe (if you have the right source packages), you can search for kdeplasma-addons
[00:10] <webbi> hallowname: hmmmmm i will go there to take a look
[00:10] <webbi> thanks!
[00:10] <hallowname> webbi: yup
[00:18] <ncfi1013_> "KLauncher could not be reached via D-Bus. Error when calling start_service_by_desktop_path: empty." is this some thing i should worry about? what does it mean? if i should worry about it, how do i fix it?
[00:20] <RobertLaptop> Ok not sure what I am doing wrong.  I am attempting to install kubuntu on a new laptop and I want to resize my HD I just install kubuntu a few weeks ago and it let me resize my windows part. but time it wont?  What am I doing diff?
[00:25] <scythefwd> do a clean shutdown from windows.  If the fs isn't unmounted cleanly, it can cause problems with the resize operation.
[00:26] <ncfi1013_> "KLauncher could not be reached via D-Bus. Error when calling start_service_by_desktop_path: empty." is this some thing i should worry about? what does it mean? if i should worry about it, how do i fix it?
[00:26] <antiquark> Does anyone get "KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/ktorrent'." everytime KTorrent is launched? It doesn't happen with any other app.
[00:26] <ncfi1013_> antiquark: yes i do
[00:26] <ncfi1013_> antiquark do you know what it means
[00:27] <ncfi1013_> but ktorrent opens like normal for me afterwards
[00:28] <ncfi1013_> antiquark i also get the klauncher thing i mentioned above
[00:28] <antiquark> me too, it's just annoying
[00:30] <antiquark> When I have time, I'll learn how to build KDE from source
[00:30] <ncfi1013_> antiquark one of my friends that is an advanced user siad that its really nothing to worry about because he gets them to
[00:30] <ncfi1013_> "said"
[00:30] <antiquark> They don't worry me, they annoy me
[00:30] <ncfi1013_> oh
[00:31] <antiquark> Apart from that message I also get about 10 notifications when KTorrent opens in KDE 4.2
[00:33] <scythefwd> firefox won't start after I use a dhclient eth1, anyone have any clues where to look for the problems.  It attempts to start, but nothing comes from it.  The curser just goes away and I don't get my FF :(
[00:35] <PhilRod_> scythefwd: did you try starting it from a konsole? Do you get any errors there?
[00:36] <scythefwd> I got a popup that said that my firefox session closed unexpectedly, do I want to start a new one?
[00:36] <scythefwd> a couple minutes later
[00:38] <antiquark> scythefwd: Open the System Monitor, and see if you can find firefox there. I you do, kill it and try to start it again
[00:39] <scythefwd> hey, firefox from the cli started, but it isn't responsive.  it literally wont respond
[00:40] <puchatek> Hi
[00:42] <scythefwd> once I terminated the firefox, it no longer shows up in ps -e, still no useable ff
[00:43] <batman76> !ops
[00:51] <treyk4> I'm totally new to compiz, and I was wondering what would be the best way to install compiz fusion on kubuntu...?
[00:54] <Exilant> k-menu - system - desktop effects
[00:54] <Exilant> (in hardy/kde 3, that is)
[00:59] <Horatia> Hello, can someone help me with a sources.list error?
[01:01] <treyk4> Exilant: Okay, I've set up desktop effects and enabled "extra effects", but I still don't notice any changes.
[01:02] <abdullah_> Hi
[01:02] <treyk4> using kde 4.1
[01:02] <abdullah_> yes
[01:04] <alex789> hi, I'm having a problem booting from my raid1 array. Basically the mdadm.conf found in the initrd image is wrong. I tried to boot with the live cd, unpacked initrd, edited mdadm.conf, packed it back, but I'm getting an error about the filesystem when I try to boot with that initrd
[01:04] <dsmith_> hmmmm, I was going to tell treyk4 he has to pay for the extra composting effects, :)
[01:04] <alex789> can you guys point me to a resource about editing files inside initrd ?
[01:05] <dsmith_> alex789: hardware or softeware raid?
[01:05] <alex789> software
[01:05] <dsmith_> ouch, i hate those
[01:05] <marek_> when kde 4.2 will be released?
[01:05] <dsmith_> i always use 3ware hardware raid cards
[01:05] <alex789> can't afford one :)
[01:06] <dsmith_> heh, I know they aren't cheap
[01:06] <dsmith_> marek_: I dont know
[01:06] <dsmith_> alex789: what board?
[01:06] <alex789> I used software raid so that I won't be in trouble if the card breaks
[01:06] <alex789> what motherboard I use ?
[01:06] <dsmith_> yes
[01:07] <hocem> hello
[01:07] <hocem> how to run network manager?
[01:07] <alex789> hm, let me take a peek, I know it's an asus
[01:07] <witakr> hello folks
[01:07] <alex789> I think m2n
[01:07] <witakr> can someone help me figure out why my wired internet connection isnt working?
[01:08] <alex789> yep, asus m2n-mx
[01:08] <alex789> the raid used to work fine, but I am trying to replace all the hdds in it, so now I ran in trouble
[01:09] <alex789> since the old partitions I used for the old array aren't correct anymore, and mdadm.conf still uses the old partions, so when it tries to mount, poof can't do cuz only 1 out of 3 is still there (running raid5)
[01:09] <dsmith_> hmmmmmmmmmm, thats beyond me
[01:09] <alex789> so my problem is telling initrd exactly which partions are now used for which arrays
[01:10] <dsmith_> im drawing a big blank
[01:10] <alex789> beyond me also heh
[01:10] <alex789> I unpacked/edited/repacked initrd-generic
[01:11] <alex789> but when I try to boot off it, I get an error about the file system not being correct or something like that
[01:11] <dsmith_> perhaps you could email the manufacturer/
[01:11] <dsmith_> put new drives
[01:11] <dsmith_> er...wit that wont work
[01:11] <dsmith_> duh
[01:11] <dsmith_> raid 1 you say?
[01:12] <alex789> boot is raid1
[01:13] <alex789>  / is raid5
[01:13] <alex789> so I go to the livecd, mount /boot
[01:14] <dsmith_> why'd you mount /boot on on raid 1? why not everything in raid 5?
[01:15] <dsmith_> I knwo this isn;t helping you, I am just curious
[01:16] <alex789> it's overhead for boot to do it on raid5
[01:16] <dsmith_> oh ok
[01:17] <alex789> I have it as raid1 with a spare, so it's easy
[01:18] <dsmith_> alex, you may want to post on the forums
[01:19] <dsmith_> i am sure someone will see it and be able to assist you
[01:22] <alex789> I'll poke around some more and see what google says heh
[01:26] <witakr> can someone help me set up my wired internet connection, please?
[01:29] <dr_willis> shouldnet be much to setting up wired...  unless ya got some weird setup
[01:29] <dr_willis> so clarify the problem
[01:54] <sancho21_> After I installed Kubuntu 8.10 amd64, I think I'm gonna back to 8.04. This is the reason: There is a command in kde-base (I forgot the name. But it has more than 6 chars) which eat 50% of my memory; The old bash script is not running anymore; It blinks every 3 or 4 secs.
[01:56] <dr_willis> thats about as clear as... err...  somting thats not very clear
[01:57] <mister-tea-lappy> huh?
[01:59] <Lothsahn> I'm running kubuntu and my KDE desktop settings are all corrupted by an upgrade.  I want to reset everything--the bottom bar, the panels, everything to the default kubuntu install.  Is there a way to do this?
[02:00] <JontheEchidna> rm ~/.kde should completely wipe the kde settings folder
[02:00] <JontheEchidna> er, rm -rf ~/.kde
[02:00] <JontheEchidna> but beware that email, etc will go bye-bye to
[02:00] <JontheEchidna> if you aren't using something like thunderbird which doesn't use the .kde settings dir
[02:02] <witakr> Well I can connect to the modem/router admin and make changes but when i try to use the connection wired or wireless(its both) and try to navigate to a webpage like google, firefox tells me the page couldnt be loaded and that i am working offline
[02:03] <witakr> I have GuardDog firewall but its disabled aswell as the firewall thats managed within the router admin
[02:16] <sancho21_> How to install kate kde3 in ubuntu 8.10?
[02:16] <stdin> you can't
[02:16] <stdin> unless you compile it yourself
[02:19] <sancho21_> I love kate so much as one of my programming tools. But I don't like kde4 base which contains a mem consuming app. I'm sad that I can't use kate kde3 in ubuntu 8.10
[02:19] <sancho21_> unless compiling my self
[02:20] <stdin> you don't need to run KDE to use Kate
[02:22] <i53NOT> hola gente
[02:23] <mister-tea-lappy> hola
[02:23] <mister-tea-lappy> !es
[02:24] <i53NOT> ok, gracias, para alla voy.....
[02:24] <mister-tea-lappy> adios
[03:23] <dumitru> hi to everyone who can help me with nvidia for Kubuntu 8.10 ??? pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee
[03:23] <dr_willis> be more specific to the channel about what you have done, and what the problem is dumitru
[03:23] <dumitru> hi to everyone who can help me with nvidia for Kubuntu 8.10 ??? pleaseeeeeeeeeeee
[03:24] <White_Pelican> does anyone know where I can get help with frostwire?
[03:24] <dr_willis> White_Pelican,  what sort of help?
[03:25]  * dr_willis is getting tired of  playing 20 questions to get to the real questions.. :)
[03:25] <White_Pelican> I just reinstalled hardy heron, and installed jre 1.5. then i installed frostware and when I tried to run it it gave me a lot of java errors
[03:25] <White_Pelican> I have a test file with the errors I can pastebin to
[03:28] <dr_willis> dumitru,  --->  be more specific to the channel about what you have done, and what the problem is dumitru
[03:28] <mrunagi> !pdf
[03:28] <dr_willis> White_Pelican,  try 'java --version' to be sure you are using the actual SUN java. for starters
[03:29] <White_Pelican> yes I am
[03:29] <White_Pelican> also, other programs like firefox are worjing properly
[03:29] <White_Pelican> http://pastebin.com/m1b4092ee
[03:29] <mrunagi> no more desktop cube in 8.10?
[03:30] <nazareno> ola
[03:30] <nazareno> Jesus é maravilhoso
[03:38] <White_Pelican> dr_willis, any ideas?
[03:40] <dr_willis> java version "1.6.0_10"
[03:40] <dr_willis> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_10-b33)
[03:40] <dr_willis> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 11.0-b15, mixed mode, sharing)
[03:40] <dr_willis> Hmm.. i got a newer java?
[03:40] <dr_willis> !frostwire
[03:43] <dr_willis> well http://main3.frostwire.com/frostwire/4.17.1/frostwire-4.17.1.i586.deb  is working here with  My Java on a Intrepid Install...
[03:43] <mrunagi> yo doc!
[03:43] <mrunagi> long time no see!
[03:44]  * dr_willis chuckles at the frostwire 'I will Not use frostwire to  violate copyright' EULA check box...
[03:44] <mrunagi> dr_willis!
[03:45] <dr_willis> mrunagi, !@@!
[03:45] <dr_willis> @_@
[03:45] <mrunagi> whats up my man!
[03:45] <dr_willis> off work for a few weeks...
[03:45] <mrunagi> where u work?
[03:45] <dr_willis> Chrysler..
[03:45] <mrunagi> buy me a car
[03:45] <dr_willis> If things dont get better.. may be off work for a Looooooooong time
[03:45] <mrunagi> i need one
[03:46] <dr_willis> You can get amazing discounts right now.. If you have the $$
[03:46] <mrunagi> lol army gives me just enough to live
[03:46] <mrunagi> but if i get married ill get alot more
[03:46]  * dr_willis wonders if thats a good enough reason to get married...
[03:46] <dr_willis> given how much my wife spends.. I think you will end up in the Negative...
[03:48] <mrunagi> maybe lol
[03:48] <mrunagi> for lviing in orlando they give 1500 a month more
[03:49] <mrunagi> gives us a desposable income of 3k
[03:50] <mrunagi> anyway, miss me?
[03:59] <will> if libxine1-ffmpeg is installed, should xine-list-1.1 display mp3 in it's list?
[04:01] <will> Could someone who can play mp3s paste the output of xine-list-1.1 so I can compare?
[04:03] <fabian> o por dios q es esto
[04:21] <will> Could someone who can play mp3s paste the output of xine-list-1.1 so I can compare?
[04:44] <haggus99> Anyone here know why my onboard hda-intel suddenly stopped working I have tried alsaconf and the wiki for help but I'm getting nowhere on 8.04
[04:45] <haggus99> aplay -l shows no sound device listed
[04:46] <mlester> hey how do you get moonlight working in firefox I can't find anything through google
[04:46] <haggus99> I know the make of the sound card it's STAC9220/9221
[04:47] <lee> what do you need
[04:47] <lee> drivers or what?
[04:47] <haggus99> I tried compliling latest alsa drivers
[04:47] <haggus99> everything went with no errors
[04:50] <lee> not sure, sorry :)
[05:00] <Guest57620> hello
[05:00] <Guest57620> :^)
[05:01] <Guest57620> ..
[05:05] <Soliloquial> I am getting the gnome cursors in the kde login window until I log in
[05:05] <Soliloquial> how to fix?
[05:06] <Soliloquial> and back
[05:40] <haggus99> ok I have my sound configured with alsa but I can't save my settings I have to run alsaconf everytime I start and I get this error wwhen I run sudo alsactl store 0
[05:40] <haggus99> alsactl: relocation error: alsactl: symbol snd_tlv_parse_dB_info, version ALSA_0.9 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference
[05:41] <haggus99> anyone know why?
[05:42] <haggus99> Hello is there anybody out there?
[05:50] <Pianoman_NY-away> hello]
[05:50] <haggus99> hi
[05:50] <Pianoman_NY-away> have 8.10 and cant connect intergrated wirless
[05:50] <Pianoman_NY-away> running dual boot with windows xp...
[05:51] <Pianoman_NY-away> wireless not working with 8.10
[05:51] <haggus99> not much wireless experience
[05:51] <Pianoman_NY-away> Åhhhhhë
[05:51] <Pianoman_NY-away> !wireless
[05:51] <haggus99> does it recognize your adapter?
[05:52] <Pianoman_NY-away> ´¯`°¤.¸ Yes ¸.¤°´¯` it shows all the avail net worx
[05:52] <Pianoman_NY-away> but wont connect to mine
[05:53] <Pianoman_NY-away> i have a wireless network that has a pass key
[05:53] <Pianoman_NY-away> i enetered the key and it wont connect
[05:53] <Pianoman_NY-away> newbie here
[05:54] <haggus99> what about your router settings?
[05:54] <haggus99> do you have a range of open ip to assign to your pc
[05:55] <Pianoman_NY-away> ´¯`°¤.¸ Yes ¸.¤°´¯`
[05:56] <haggus99> it connects with xp right
[05:59] <haggus99> did you try turning encryption off and connecting?
[06:02] <Pianoman_NY-away> ´¯`°¤.¸ Yes ¸.¤°´¯`
[06:03] <Pianoman_NY-away> no didnt try encrption.. wheres that?
[06:04] <Pianoman_NY-away> .
[06:05] <haggus99> it would be in your router settings I access mine from my browser
[06:07] <Pianoman_NY-away> ehere
[06:07] <Pianoman_NY-away> `'·.¸_ Yeah Yeah _¸.·'´¯ i was there.. ok .·:*¨`*:·. .·:*¨`*:· ße Right ßack .·:*¨`*:·. .·:*¨`*:·
[06:12] <kniolet> what does "sse right ssack" mean? (j/k)
[06:32] <lanoxx> i just upgraded to the latest kubuntu 8.10 and kde 4.2 beta 2, most of my gtk apps look very strange now. firefox even lacks a lot of icons in the toolbar and the webdeveloper bar is broken
[06:32] <lanoxx> is there an easy way to fix this?
[07:02] <lanoxx> re, i just rebooted to see if it would fix the problem, my gtk apps still look messy as before
[07:12] <lanoxx> does anyone have an idea?
[07:13] <alid> hey
[07:14] <alid> is there anyone who can help me?
[07:14] <alid> hello there
[07:14] <alid> is here anyone?
[07:16] <lanoxx> whats up?
[07:19] <salohcin> alid: What is the problem?
[07:19] <salohcin> lanoxx: Missed it about what?
[07:19] <OxDeadC0de> if you can tell me how to access KDE::TipDatabase from ruby I'll help you with any problem you have until it's fixed or until 2 hours passes whichever comes first
[07:19] <salohcin> !wpa
[07:27] <salohcin> alid: ask here
[07:29] <salohcin> Shouldn't there be ruby bindings for that?
[07:30] <salohcin> alid: The entire panel turned black?
[07:31] <alid> i'm using kubuntu intrepid ibex with kde 3.5.10. i just changed the analog clock background color and it became black. it was formerly transparent, and now i don't know how to roll it back to it's initial transparent background. can anyone help me please?
[07:31] <salohcin> Did the entire panel become black or just the clock?
[07:32] <alid> just the clock background
[07:32] <salohcin> ok Did you upgrade to Ibex?
[07:32] <alid> no
[07:32] <salohcin> Ok
[07:32] <alid> it's clean installation
[07:32] <salohcin> How did you get KDE 3 then ?
[07:33] <alid> i had problems with KDE 4.1 and finally came to this decision to downgrade to KDE 3.5
[07:33] <salohcin> Right. Where did you get it from?
[07:34] <alid> i added one source to adept software sources
[07:34] <alid> then used adept manager to install KDE 3.5
[07:34] <salohcin> I Guessed that :) What was it > where did you get it from?
[07:34] <alid> let me see one moment
[07:36] <alid> here it is the post on ubuntuforums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963695
[07:40] <alid> salohcin: are you still there?
[07:41] <salohcin> Yes
[07:42] <salohcin>  I Think these may be the one that was done mostly correctly
[07:42] <salohcin>  A fair number of packaged KDE 3 repos for Ibex will mess up your system
[07:43] <alid> i don't think if it is a problem with the KDE or Ibex
[07:43] <salohcin> What is your video card?
[07:43] <alid> a regular intel one
[07:43] <alid> the clock was ok before i screw it up
[07:44] <alid> i changed the bg color manually
[07:44] <alid> and it turned to black
[07:44] <alid> i can change it to any other color i wish
[07:44] <alid> but no transparent color option is available
[07:45] <abcrazy> ?
[07:47] <salohcin> alid: I'm not sure kicker supports true transparency
[07:47] <salohcin> !
[07:47] <alid> salohcin: i'm not gonna see the desktop background under my clock or kicker
[07:48] <alid> salohcin: i'm just gonna have my kicker bg under my analog clock screen rather than a plain black square
[07:49] <salohcin> alid: It should be possible I think
[07:50] <alid> yes, i guess so. as it was before i screw it up
[07:50] <salohcin> It was transpaarent before you started?
[07:50] <alid> yes
[07:50] <alid> the clock background was the same as the kicker background
[07:50] <alid> and it seemed cool
[07:51] <alid> now it's ugly
[07:53] <salohcin> alid: mv ~/.kde ~/kdebkup and logout then back in
[07:56] <salohcin> !wpa2
[08:41] <lanoxx> does kubuntu by default not integrate gtk-qt-engine? or do i have to configure it manually?
[08:44] <apparle> ATi has given support for ubuntu 8.10 in their latest driver, does that include kubuntu
[09:14] <rinuccio> salveeee
[09:16] <hugo33> Although I've installed PyQt via apt-get, I can't "import qt" under Python 2.5; perhaps I've missed a dependency. I can import PyQt4 just fine but not qt itself. So, QDialog is unavailable, for instance. Google reveals no common "import qt" problems, which suggests either most people install qt+pyqt from source or that I'm doing something uncommonly wrong. Any thoughts?
[09:26] <apparle> I cannot see the video on any player(VLC,kaffiene,mplayer) when kwin desktop effects are enabled but I see them when i disable them, what to do
[09:47] <manoi> can i install aptoncd in kubuntu ?
[09:50] <apparle> manoi what are you doing
[09:50] <apparle> I mean to say why do you wanto install aptoncd
[09:51] <manoi> i have dialup conection apparle
[09:51] <manoi> i needit
[09:52] <apparle> then install
[09:52] <manoi> i use ubuntu too, and i use it there, if some problem, i will not have to wait two days to get the actualization files i have an aptoncd with 1.5 gb of software and actualizations
[09:53]  * stmartin : could someone possibly tell me why emesene doesn't store chat logs? Thanks.
[09:55] <cstoner> stmartin: seems like #emesene is a better place to ask
[09:56] <stmartin> ok, thanks
[10:04] <elliott> can anyone help me with installing hardy? it keeps crashing at 78%, and when i run ubiquity from konsole there are no error messages
[10:04] <elliott> it just stops
[10:04] <cstoner> What's the last thing it puts on the screen?
[10:05] <elliott> copying files (less than a minute)
[10:05] <elliott> orsomething like that
[10:06] <elliott> i've run it three times, once from the "install kubuntu" option on the CD, once from double clicking the icon in the live cd, and once running ubiquity from konsole in the live cd
[10:06] <elliott> it crashes i nthe same place all three times
[10:07] <cstoner> Have you checked the disk integrity?
[10:08] <elliott> not exactly, but i used the same cd to install on another computer and it worked. but i guess i'll do that
[10:11] <manfred> nick elliott
[10:15] <guodejun> wo you hui lai le,ha ha ha ha
[10:16] <Muzer> Hello. I have a DVB and FM radio combi tuner card.
[10:16] <Muzer> The DVB is working fine.
[10:16] <Muzer> The FM radio appears to work in  KRadio (it scans and picks up all the right frequencies)
[10:17] <Muzer> however, there is no sound.
[10:17] <Muzer> I've tried kradio, radio, and gradio
[10:17] <Muzer> all same result.
[10:17] <Muzer> so, any ideas?
[10:17] <Muzer> Latest Kubuntu, my soundcard appears to work for everything else.
[10:18] <elliott> ok, i checked the CD, no errors found
[10:18] <cstoner> Have you double checked kmix to make sure no channels are muted?
[10:18] <cstoner> elliott: Hrm. is it a hardlock, or just the install program locking?
[10:19] <elliott> just the install program
[10:19] <elliott> when i first came in i was still in the live cd
[10:19] <elliott> it's 64bit if that means anything
[10:20] <elliott> it's a brand new computer, all new parts, etc, but i tested everything and it all works in the live cd
[10:20] <Muzer> cstoner: I'll have a look, don't think so though
[10:21] <cstoner> have you tried a regular ubuntu install? You can always install kde stuff later
[10:26] <elliott> well if there was a way to use intrepid with kde i wouldn't object to trying that
[10:26] <elliott> kde3*
[10:26] <Muzer> I unmuted absolutely everything
[10:26] <Muzer> still no audio with radio
[10:26] <Muzer> (I broke kradio btw, I'll have to figure out how to manually reset the settings)
[10:27] <cstoner> elliott: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963695
[10:27] <cstoner> Maybe the fm card has an independant volume control? I've never had a radio card
[10:29] <Muzer> Well, the TV part of it recieved audio first time with no adjustments
[10:29] <Muzer> hmm
[10:30] <petanek> hi, can I ask some question around kubuntu?
[10:30] <Muzer> yes
[10:31] <petanek> I installed kubuntu on my laptop few days ago and I have problem with unexpected logout
[10:31] <petanek> have you hearded about it?]
[10:31] <dmmainou> hi guys   I am new to kbuntu as recently moved from MS Vista. I am trying to make my miniSAN  AOE  unit to work but cant make sense of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ATAOverEthernet can anyone hlp me please
[10:31] <elliott> cstoner: i'm going to try that, thanks
[10:33]  * cstoner thinks he just fell in love with screen.
[10:33] <petanek> cstoner: what is you screen like? :-)
[10:33] <petanek> *your
[10:34] <dmmainou> hello?
[10:34] <cstoner> I just started using it. I just logged out and back in (to kde) without losing my terminal session.
[10:36] <cstoner> dmmainou: What aren't you getting
[10:37] <dmmainou> hi I am trying to mount my ATA-over-ethernet unit... so far unsucessfully
[10:37] <cstoner> ... that doesn't help me help you at all, dude
[10:40] <cstoner> dmmainou: what isn't working
[10:40] <dmmainou> Ok  I am trying tofollow the steps on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ATAOverEthernet
[10:41] <elliott> which of the commands has an error, or does every individual command work and it's still not connecting?
[10:41] <dmmainou> well I don't know how to install the vblade driver on the server as it is a headess apliance
[10:42] <cstoner> dmmainou: none of the commands should have errors
[10:42] <cstoner> oops
[10:42] <cstoner> i misread. nevermind
[10:42] <dmmainou> http://www.welland.com.tw/html/network/747gk.html
[10:44] <cstoner> Start at the "Using AoE" section
[10:44] <dmmainou> when I run the aoe-stat command I do get "e0.0         0.000GB  wlan0 down"
[10:44] <dmmainou> but then it doesn't appear in dolphin
[10:45] <cstoner> you want it through wireless, I presume?
[10:45] <dmmainou> yes
[10:46] <cstoner> How is the AoE device attached?
[10:46] <dmmainou> to my wireless router
[10:47] <cstoner> Have you tried connecting it directly to the client pc through cat5 cable?
[10:47] <dmmainou> no I haven't
[10:47] <dmmainou> I'll try now.
[10:49] <elliott> cstoner: the intrepid installer crashed on "creating user"
[10:49] <cstoner> elliott: with the regular ubuntu disc, or kubuntu
[10:49] <elliott> kubuntu
[10:50] <elliott> i'm using a pre-existing /home partition, but that's workedi n the past
[10:50] <dmmainou> looks its there e0.0      1000.204GB wlan0,eth0 up
[10:50] <elliott> dmmainou: then perhaps it's a problem with your wireless?
[10:51] <dmmainou> still doesnt show in dolpjin
[10:51] <cstoner> dmmainou: that's because it isn't mounted yet
[10:51] <cstoner> "sudo mount /dev/etherd/e0.0 /mnt/WHATEVERTHEFUCKEVER"
[10:52] <bazhang> cstoner, please watch the language
[10:52] <dmmainou> hold on im mouning
[10:52] <cstoner> k ;)
[10:53] <dmmainou> thanks.. assuming it finishes mounting correctly how do I fix the wireless to make it work....
[10:54] <elliott> well that depends on what's wrong with the wireless
[10:54] <cstoner> I'd assume it's a NAT issue (most wireless "problems" are...). Make sure the ports for AoE are forwarded correctly
[10:55] <dmmainou> seems fine for everything else (except I can not see my atrixbox bu 1 stepat a time, been with kubuntu 1 week)
[10:55] <cstoner> elliott: As far as your problem, I have no idea. my kubuntu 64bit install went smooth
[10:55] <dmmainou> its taking time.... 1TB
[10:56] <dmmainou> how do I configur the NAT
[10:57] <dmmainou> sorry for my engrish its my second language...
[11:02] <cstoner> I don't know about the wireless bit. It might not even be NAT (that's just my guess)
[11:02] <dmmainou> I typed sudo mount /dev/e0.0 /mnt/e0.0
[11:03] <dmmainou> and it answered mount: special device /dev/e0.0 does not exist
[11:04] <Neremor> hm i've a question about ext3 file systems
[11:04] <Neremor> they don't work within windows, so i have to find a way to access the files within windows
[11:04] <cstoner> dmmainou: you'll need to redo the "aoe-interfaces ... aoe-stat" over again
[11:05] <artycelli> bonjour
[11:05] <Neremor> my idea was to make a partition of 75MB in vat (accessiable within windows and linux) and put damnsmalllinux embedded on it... i think damnsmalllinux would access the ext3 file system.
[11:05] <cstoner> Neremor: Tried http://www.fs-driver.org/ ? it was the first google result
[11:05] <Neremor> will that work?
[11:05] <Neremor> no
[11:05] <Neremor> i don't want to install drivers
[11:06] <cstoner> ... why?
[11:06] <kabber> What to do if all memory and swap is full and now the computer is slowly hanging itself, I can move the mouse though, but the rest is seemingly still and computing. If I have stuff that is unsaved, and don't wish to reboot nor ctrl+alt+f2..?
[11:06] <artycelli> hello i have a problem i wan't to access on my hard disk with ntfs write
[11:06] <dmmainou> sudo aoe-discover  gives      aoe-discover: /dev/etherd/discover does not exist or is not writeable
[11:07] <cstoner> Neremor: Running a *nix on a vfat partition is troublesome as it doesn't truely understand permissions
[11:09] <artycelli> nix ?
[11:10] <cstoner> linux/solaris/freebsd/etc
[11:10] <dmmainou> was that for me?
[11:10] <artycelli> ok i am beginner
[11:11] <artycelli> i need an help if possible in french
[11:11] <cstoner> dmmainou: no, I have no idea about the AoE bit. I've never actually used it
[11:11] <dmmainou> well I'm a couple of steps ahead... thanks mate
[11:12] <cstoner> !french
[11:12] <artycelli> thank's;)
[11:13] <cstoner> !ubottu
[11:22] <MathCampbell> anyone here any goo with compaq/HP laptops?
[11:22] <bazhang> MathCampbell, best to ask your question; if someone knows they will answer
[11:22] <MathCampbell> *good
[11:24] <MathCampbell> well, the missus was taking out the trash last night, and being the avid freecycler she is, saw a laptop carry case and grabbed it.  Turns out someone was chucking out their old Compaq Armaada E500 laptop!! Free laptop for me!! It's got XP on it though and it crawls, os I was thinking maybe kubuntu....will it run/ be easy?
[11:25] <MathCampbell> alos, I don't have me a dvd burner, so I'd rather download an image to my mac and install over the ethernet line to it...is this possible?
[11:25] <bazhang> MathCampbell, try the livecd; depends on the amount of ram, what wireless card, and video card
[11:25] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements MathCampbell
[11:26] <dr_willis> MathCampbell,  perhaps.. but it may be easier to convert a thumbdrive to a bootable install media
[11:27] <dr_willis> MathCampbell,  depending on the laptop specs it may be better to run somtning other then KDE or GNome on it. or some very very light disrto.
[11:27] <MathCampbell> no wireless (looks like it was being used with a pci card for that), 128MB ram and I think it's a 700MHz p3.  Mobility Rage is the vid card.  Gonna have to ekcuse my ignorance, las time I used windows was 2k days...
[11:27] <MathCampbell> hey, it's free, i'm cool :)
[11:28] <MathCampbell> "ATI Rage Mobility Compaq".  Nothing like informative displays are there?
[11:31] <MathCampbell> hmmm...is there like a "laptop" version of ubuntu?  It says alternate install cd if you've less than 364MB ram...
[11:32] <cstoner> no laptop version. The regular version it should work just fine as long as you have enough ram
[11:33] <MathCampbell> 128MB...
[11:33] <MathCampbell> probbly not enough...
[11:33] <cstoner> You could try xubuntu
[11:33] <ibrar> can anybody tell me default ubuntu font name ?
[11:33] <Malic> Hi! Question: is the weather widget in kde 4.2 beta working?
[11:34] <Malic> I can not chosse a data source
[11:34] <Malic> *choose
[11:34] <MathCampbell> it's running XP right now.  Nice and secure, cause when I booted it up, and asked me for a password, I just typed in "Administrator" for user and no password, let me login and everything! Ha!
[11:35] <cstoner> Malic: I can choose a data source (with latest nightly), but it crashes plasma
[11:37] <MathCampbell> what is the diffrence betwixt ubuntu and xubuntu? I'm on the site as we speak and it seems to be the same; doesn't mention what's different...
[11:37] <dmmainou> xbntu is lighter
[11:37] <dr_willis> !xubuntu
[11:37] <MathCampbell> ah, I see.  Ta
[11:37] <dr_willis> Ubuntu - Gnome + XFCE = xubuntu
[11:37] <dr_willis> :)
[11:38] <MathCampbell> god, last time I toucched linux, 128MB WAS big!!
[11:38] <dr_willis> of coruse XFCE is very closely related to gnome in many areas.
[11:38] <dr_willis> MathCampbell,  check out "Tiny Core Linux" = 10mb linux Install :)
[11:38] <MathCampbell> mandrake I think.  Mighta been Susue 7
[11:38] <dr_willis> about as minimal as one can get. :)
[11:38] <MathCampbell> lol, I want a GUI...
[11:38] <dr_willis> size wise.
[11:38] <dr_willis> it has a GUI
[11:38] <dr_willis> amazing eh? boots in 14 sec.
[11:38] <MathCampbell> it's just cause it's a shittop so it's got 128mb ram...
[11:38] <MathCampbell> What?!!
[11:39] <dr_willis> Tiny Core Linux is a very small (10 MB) minimal Linux Desktop. It is based on Linux 2.6 kernel, Busybox, Tiny X, Fltk, and Jwm. The core runs entirely in ram and boots very quickly.
[11:39] <dr_willis> http://www.tinycorelinux.com/
[11:39] <MathCampbell> Come on, I've made apps bigger than 10MB just to download my tv shows...
[11:39] <dr_willis> dont belive me then.....
[11:39] <dmmainou> cstoner are you still there....
[11:40] <ibrar> Any body tell me how I can achive big resultion on my lenovo T60 laptop
[11:40] <cstoner> yes
[11:40]  * dr_willis goes back to installing TCE to his old laptop...
[11:40] <dr_willis> oops T.C.L.
[11:40] <MathCampbell> whoa.  Just checked that out.  That's mental!!
[11:40] <dmmainou> sudo mount /dev/etherd/e0.0 /mnt/e0.0
[11:41] <kabber> You could also check out Damn Small Linux
[11:41] <dr_willis> other tiny-disrtos, puppy linux, feather linux, DSL.
[11:41] <dr_willis> and proberly others.. depending onyour needs
[11:41] <dmmainou> I went through root and found thar it got crated like that
[11:41] <MathCampbell> is there like an in-between-distro you could suggest?  IE. something that's got all the "good stuff" to run with, but'll work and be nice and fast on a 700MHz P3 with 128MB ram?
[11:42] <cstoner> dmmainou: so, it's working then?
[11:42] <dmmainou> still not showing in dolphin
[11:42] <cstoner> is the mount command giving you an error
[11:43] <dr_willis> MathCampbell,  i suggested 3 :)    just a moment ago.. I tend to use Puppy
[11:43] <dr_willis> MathCampbell,  or for a instant media player   http://www.geexbox.org/en/index.html
[11:44] <MathCampbell> hmmm, ta.  I'll go look at them nd see which is best :) Ta
[11:46] <cstoner> dmmainou: Is the mount command givng you an error? or is it mounting correctly now?
[11:50] <dmmainou> ok its there under root/mnt/e0.0 but does not let me r/w
[11:50] <dmmainou> was looking under /dev
[11:52] <cstoner> can root r/w to it? it might just be a permissions thing
[11:54] <dmmainou> dolphin says the owner is root
[11:54] <dmmainou> it does not shows in fdisk -l
[11:55] <cstoner> what are the permissions on /mnt/e0.0 ?
[11:55] <dr_willis> be sure to use 'sudo fdisk -l'
[11:57] <dmmainou> only the user (root) can write
[11:57] <dmmainou> dr willis yes I did sudo... it doesnt show ...weird ata over ethernet disk
[11:59] <cstoner> try 'sudo chgrp users /mnt/e0.0' followed by 'sudo chmod 775 /mnt/e0.0'
[12:00] <dmmainou> sweet!!!!!!!!
[12:01] <dmmainou> now how do I make all this permanent...
[12:01] <cstoner> add an entry to your /etc/fstab file
[12:01] <dr_willis> I got a NDAS drive enclouser also. :) its a little weird.. but im using it as USB for now.
[12:02] <dr_willis> Handy..but just annoying to get the drivers going on the machines  how i use it.
[12:02] <dmmainou> does 'modprobe aoe' needs to be  embeded in the kernel as well?
[12:04] <cstoner> just add aoe to /etc/modules
[12:05] <dmmainou> how do I do that...
[12:06] <cstoner> "sudo nano /etc/modules" add aoe to the end and then CTRL-X
[12:07] <cstoner> or gedit/kate if you want to be less hardcore about it (vi/emacs if you want to be more)
[12:07] <onlooker> Hi. I need to copy files from another harddrive to the one I already have. How do I make Linux find the other drive? The odther drive has a Xubuntu installation on it
[12:08] <cstoner> onlooker: mount it somewhere on the filesystem
[12:08] <dmmainou> kate didn't let me but I sudo nano /etc/modules   aded a line aoe
[12:10] <kabber> Haha, fun. Kubuntu hung itself for a while, 6h, due to too many programs running and memory+swap being completely full, and now it just got back as it terminated a program, well, two, one that I tried to terminate, and another which it did on its own.
[12:10] <dmmainou> I'll add fstab sometime tommorrow... need to sleep.. mate thanks sooooo much.  I am comitted to Never ever touch microsoft again.
[12:10] <cstoner> No problem. It's easier said than done (at first) but worth the effort
[12:12] <onlooker> cstoner: Ah, thanks
[12:12] <dmmainou> mostly use excel and firefox.... so if I can get my music and movies to work I don't need to do anything else....Happy new year.
[12:41] <antu> still, after a second installation from a new cd of a second downloaded bin adept and synaptic let me search local packages only. has anyone an idea whats the problem?
[12:42] <dr_willis> check the sources.list and do a apt-get update, apt-get upgrade  perhaps? disable cdrom entry in sources.list  if one exitst
[12:45] <antu> yes, its all updated and upgraded.
[12:45] <antu> ok... ill try the cd-rom thing.
[12:45] <dr_willis> Try searching via the command line tools also.
[12:46] <antu> how that?
[12:48] <antu> now after removing the cd entry i still can only rearch local packages. im installing kubuntu on a virtual machine now so i can check if the problem occurs on other setups..
[12:51] <OxDeadC0de> Are there any mods around? I was wondering if i could get some general assistance from this room.. I'm making a "Tip of the day" widget for kde/plasma, the problem is, I don't have tips.. I was hoping I could try to collect them from the public here with a tiny little python irc bot I made.  General KDE/Plasma "tips"
[12:53] <OxDeadC0de> or if anyone here is interested in contributing, the bot is running in #plasma, join and type !usage for usage info. Any good tip you've picked up about kde/plasma that you want to share would be appreciated
[12:54] <antu> #plasma
[12:54] <dr_willis> antu,  sp
[12:55] <dr_willis> antu,  so 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' do connec tto the net and gets updates/ and upgrades?
[12:55] <antu> yes, apt-get works fine.
[12:56] <dr_willis> Im not sure what you are meaning by 'search local packages'  to be honest with you...     apt-cache search whatever   searches the apt database
[13:01] <antu> well if i dont enter anything in the search field i get 26000 packeges listet. whenever i enter something to search for he shows me only installed packages as result.
[13:09] <dr_willis> I always use the command line search tools..  Be sure you got the right buttons checked I guess is all i can suggest.
[13:09] <teross> helo.. is there a very easy way to make at 3850 work in kubuntu?
[13:09] <dr_willis> theres toggles for installed/broken/whatever buttons at the bottom left of synaptic i think
[13:09] <dr_willis> teross,  i imagine not many of us in here know what an 'at 3850' even is.
[13:10] <teross> ati :) sorry
[13:10] <dr_willis> Ok thats more clear :)
[13:10] <teross> ive tried kubuntu 8.04 and 8.10 live cd but it doesnt load, unless i choose safe mode.. ati hd 3850 :)
[13:11] <dr_willis> Ive not got any ati video other then my Old x200m laptop.. and i dont even have it any more. :()
[13:11] <teross> i thought i should choose nvidia then i was thinking which gpu to buy.. :)
[13:16] <dr_willis> I cant keep up with all the ati #'s
[13:16] <dr_willis> its often safer to stick with hardware thats been out a bit.. Cheaper also. :)
[13:17] <teross> well ati 3850 is an old card.. you must admit, its not new.. :) by the way..new kernel released.. does it makes ati work okay? :)
[13:17] <dr_willis> I have no idea whatso ever on the #ing of ati cards..
[13:18] <teross> :) heh
[13:18] <dr_willis> I imagine its more of a fglrx vs ati vs vga driver issues.. the card might work if you made it use the vga drivers.. untill you get the fglrx drivers installed
[13:19] <teross> all i need is certainty, that i install buntu..then those drivers..and after that it works perfectly..because im not good at solving problems
[13:19] <dr_willis> No idea. I cant guarentee that your PC wont explode in the next 10 sec either...
[13:19]  * dr_willis ducks
[13:19] <teross> :) hehe yep
[13:20] <dr_willis> if fglrx supports them - its a simple install/setup
[13:20] <teross> what about monitor also? its not detected also..im now on vesa 7.10 :) its not good
[13:20] <dr_willis> if not. tweak the xorg.conf to use the vesa drivers as a work around, or the ati drivers
[13:27] <teross> dr_whillis where to see the full list of all monitors that are supported? or its the video card drivers that supports monitors?
[13:31] <rva> hi - i am new to this channel :-)
[13:31] <rva> I have a question about wlan and kernel version: all kernels > 2.6.24-18 seems to use CTS with wlan, which disables me from accessing a EAP-TLS network. Do you know if something about CTS has changed in kernels > 2.6.24-18?
[13:32]  * dr_willis has no idea what half those terms ment...
[13:32] <dr_willis> :)
[13:33] <rva> CTS is a technology to improve radio frequency on wlans - I think :-)
[13:34] <rva> in kernels newer than 2.6.24-18 I get a message about CTS disabled and enabled, even though my Access Point doesn't use CTS
[13:35] <rva> in kernel 2.6.24-18 there is no CTS messages in my dmesg-log
[13:39] <raza_> i installed kubuntu 8.10 . i get the logon/logout sound...but no sound in amarok,vlc , youtube videos
[13:39] <raza_> any way to fix this ?
[13:42] <mrunagi> intrepid seems much more unstable to hardy
[13:42] <raza_> @mrunagi : is there any way to fix the sound issue ?
[13:43] <mrunagi> which sound issue
[13:44] <raza_> im using kubuntu 8.10. i get the logon/logout sound, but no sound in amarok, vlc, youtube videos
[13:44] <mrunagi> not sure
[13:44] <mrunagi> im not positive i get sound i havent explored
[13:44] <raza_> i have the volume icon in the sys tray, but moving the slider up and down does not give any sound
[13:45] <raza_> hope someone using kubuntu 8.10 can help me out with this
[13:45] <teross> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI - im following guide for 7.10 but i get an "not error" my hardware doesnt need any drivers
[13:47] <teross> ok i will try my way.. gl me :)
[13:48] <Phil> hello
[13:48] <raza_> hello
[13:49] <Phil> Im a newbie to Kubuntu and want to use it as a home DVR system
[13:49] <Phil> looking for a little help with setup and system requirements
[13:50] <mrunagi> good luck Phil
[13:51] <OxDeadC0de> If anyone else wants to contribute and share useful tips they've found about KDE/Plasma feel free to join #plasma and add a tip to the both with(no quotes) ":tip my very useful tip"
[13:51] <OxDeadC0de> s/both/bot
[13:51] <OxDeadC0de> we have 6 tips so far .... 5 by me, 1 by Antu
[13:51] <Phil> Is this the wrong place to ask questions on Kubuntu
[13:52] <mrunagi> to me............kde4/kkubuntu 8.10 is a tease
[13:52] <OxDeadC0de> Seems like the right place
[13:52] <mrunagi> no Phil im just saying good luck because ive found that tv tuners and kubuntu isnt fun
[13:52] <OxDeadC0de> mrunagi: they can be
[13:52] <Phil> ah, I see
[13:52] <OxDeadC0de> can make awesome dvr's and media centers etc ^^
[13:53] <Phil> I have an old box P III, will there be any issues running a recent version of the OS
[13:53] <mrunagi> my tv tuner was never supported
[13:53] <mrunagi> might still be
[13:55] <OxDeadC0de> phil might be slow... give it decent swap just in case you need it (1-2gb? if you have a really slow hd not so much or it'll swap lag.. rather have apps crash due to out of mem than swap lag no? hmm)
[13:55] <Valla> 	http://straseni.kompletne.cz/baf.php?page=straseni&kolo=7&od=62 ROFL ! xD
[13:56] <OxDeadC0de> 6 tips still guys, we need tips!
[13:56] <Phil> thanks
[13:56] <hyper_ch> akonadi keeps crashing all the time.... shall I just fill bug reports?
[13:57] <OxDeadC0de> what version are you running? and do bug reports already exist?
[13:57] <OxDeadC0de> if you're in 4.2beta2 don't file any bug reports they say
[13:57] <hyper_ch> wrong channel
[13:58] <hyper_ch> better to ask it in kontact :)
[13:58] <OxDeadC0de> ^^
[13:59] <piquadrat> Hi! I can't open Google Gadgets in plasma on KDE 4.2 Beta2 (packages from kubuntu.org). I asked over at #kde and they said 4.2 supports Google Gadgets and that it probabely is a packaging issue.
[14:00] <antu_> it seems like linux doesnt use multiple processors for a single task... is there a way to change this?
[14:02] <OxDeadC0de> antu_ depends on how the task is designed, what kind of task you're talking about
[14:02] <antu_> blender, edit mode.
[14:02] <antu_> but the installation of kubuntu also..
[14:02] <OxDeadC0de> antu_ if you mean a program, if the program is threaded it could/should use multiple cpu's, if it's written asynchronous it will only use 1 cpu though
[14:03] <antu_> could it be that windows somehow get it balanced anyway?
[14:04] <OxDeadC0de> antu_ if kubuntu is only recognizing one cpu entirely, there is a problem in your kernel with some of your hardware
[14:06] <antu_> it recognizes one dualcore cpu correctly. but sometimes one core is at half load while the other is at 0% load.
[14:06] <antu_> never experienced that in the preinstalled vista.
[14:11] <OxDeadC0de> antu_ check out taskset for setting the affinity, you can force blender to use the idle cpu
[14:28] <tsteele> Having trouble connecting server to domain
[14:40] <fireball_> hello, having this troble, please help?
[14:40] <fireball_> Unable to save bookmarks in /home/fireball/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Permission denied. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive.
[14:40] <fireball_> Drive not full
[14:41] <fireball_> ?
[14:41] <fireball_> ?
[14:41] <fireball_> ?
[14:41] <SSJ_GZ> fireball_: What are the owner/ permissions on that file?
[14:41] <SSJ_GZ> fireball_: Also, be patient, please.
[14:42] <fireball_> I'll check it
[14:42] <rufsketch1> hey all
[14:42] <rufsketch1> hey all
[14:43] <rufsketch1> I'm trying to get my atheros wireless card working using the ath5k modules
[14:43] <rufsketch1> but they don't seem to be in the apt repos
[14:43] <fireball_> all permisions, owner and user root
[14:43] <rufsketch1> and the autoconfig tool says it's in use, but it most certainly is not
[14:43] <rufsketch1> as knetwork manager just seems to think i have to eth0 nic
[14:43] <rufsketch1> two eth0's
[14:43] <rufsketch1> *
[14:45] <rufsketch1> help?
[14:45] <SSJ_GZ> fireball_: Change them from root to your user.
[14:46] <fireball_> should i mention this is a ntfs drive?
[14:46] <fireball_> Otherwise, I'm not sure how?
[14:47] <fireball_> access permissions? X on "user" only?
[14:48] <SSJ_GZ> fireball_: You have your /home drive on an ntfs drive? That's quite unusual :) chown should work, if ntfs supports it.
[14:49] <fireball_> no, /home is normal drive, but all media storage is on windows / ntfs drive
[14:50] <fireball_> I get the error message every time I go there with an explorer
[14:50] <SSJ_GZ> fireball_: Ok, so chown  /home/fireball/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml to your user.
[14:52] <fireball_> I don't quite understand?
[14:53] <SSJ_GZ> fireball_: What is the name of your non-root user?
[14:53] <fireball_> isn't /home/fireball my user?
[14:53] <fireball_> fireball
[14:53] <dr_willis> mentioning its a 'ntfs' drive is VERY imporntant when messing with ntfs drives. :)
[14:53] <SSJ_GZ> fireball_: sudo chown fireball  /home/fireball/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml
[14:53] <fireball_> Thought it might help
[14:55] <fireball_> You guys are good, that seems to have fixed it. Any idea how this error started?
[14:55] <SSJ_GZ> fireball_: Likely, running Dolphin as root.
[14:56] <Buckethead_> Hi :D
[14:58] <wikki> who's still drunk?
[14:58] <fireball_> excellent! Now is there a decent program to find my apps and install them into my menu? I just installed mixxx 1.6.1 and can't find it, mixxx from terminal tells me its not installed
[15:01] <dr_willis> Yep.. running Dolphin as root = BAD idea..
[15:01] <dr_willis> seen that bookmarks file get locked many a times doing that
[15:02] <fireball_> hmm, sudo nautilus better idea?
[15:02] <jpedroza> Can anyone tell me which package I should install to get the sftp kio slave working in Intrepid? I am trying to use Quanta and it just throws an error when I try and connect to a server running sftp.
[15:02] <dr_willis> learnign to do root tasks from the terminal [15:03] <fireball_> probably, which reminds me, app finder/menu installer?
[15:03] <dr_willis> all it takes is one miss click with a GUI FIle manager as root = oops.. i dident realize that window was ROOT.. now i just deleted  my system...
[15:03] <fireball_> veritas
[15:07] <jpedroza> There is a KIO slaves package for Gutsy, but I haven't found one for Hardy or Intrepid. Am I just missing something, or is this still a bug to be addressed?
[15:09] <fireball_> thanks guys, check out New Years Rave c/- Guy Newmanaix @ facebook if ya's are in oz, all welcome!
[15:14] <dust> Setting up kde-nightly-kdebase (20081229+svn903070-0neon1) ...
[15:14] <dust> changelog for this please?
[15:17] <OxDeadC0de> dr_willis, would you mind sharing some of your general linux wisdom and humor to the Tip of the Day widget for kde? If you want to add some, whisper !usage to oxdeadc0de-bot
[15:17] <dr_willis> OxDeadC0de,  theres dozens of such humorous tips in the various 'fortune' files :)
[15:17] <dr_willis> !info fortune
[15:17] <dr_willis> egads!
[15:17] <OxDeadC0de> lol
[15:17] <dr_willis> !find fortune
[15:17] <dr_willis> !info fortunes
[15:18] <dr_willis> :)
[15:18] <OxDeadC0de> but we could use ones relevent to modern linux and kde4
[15:18] <dr_willis> Tip Of the Day: " You can always turn off these annoying Tips"
[15:19] <dr_willis> Relevent tips = few and far between :)
[15:19] <dr_willis> How about a 'command line command of the day' :)
[15:20] <popey> i just booted kubuntu 8.10 on my desktop and the session appears to have failed at startup, and I am now getting a logon screen.. is this known?
[15:21] <OxDeadC0de> hints on where to find new themes, hints on how to setup something "just right" like grubgfx instead of the lame default grub in ubuntu(example), info like that is numerous
[15:22] <dust> Setting up kde-nightly-kdebase (20081229+svn903070-0neon1) ..., changelog?
[15:27] <rufsketch1> can anyone help me? I need to install ath5k in kubuntu. but it doesn't seem to be in the repos
[15:27] <jpds> rufsketch1: It's in intrepid-backports.
[15:27] <rufsketch1> whats the link to that repo?
[15:28] <rufsketch1> or do i select it via some gui?
[15:28] <jpds> rufsketch1: One moment.
[15:29] <jpds> rufsketch1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu#Intrepid%20Ibex%20(8.10)
[15:29] <rufsketch1> jpds: thnx
[15:29] <jpds> rufsketch1: on the fourth screen, "Software sources" , select Unsupported updates.
[15:30] <rufsketch1> jpds: why is ath5k unsupported O_O
[15:30] <jpds> rufsketch1: After that install: linux-backports-modules-intrepid
[15:31] <jpds> rufsketch1: It had some problems which were fixed after intrepid was released.
[15:33] <ionut_> hi
[15:34] <ionut_> can somewone tell me how can i transfer a file from my computer (operating sistem=linux) in another computer(server) from the command promt
[15:34] <popey> ionut_: scp
[15:35] <ionut_> so transfer a file from my pc on a server
[15:35] <ionut_> scp and then ?
[15:35] <popey> scp path/to/file user@remotehost:/destination/path
[15:35] <jpedroza> ionut_: What os is the server running?
[15:35] <popey> ooo good question :)
[15:35] <ionut_> linux
[15:35] <ionut_> from example
[15:35] <jpedroza> ionut_: Then scp should work fine for you
[15:36] <ionut_> i want to trasfer a file (authorized_keys which is located in my .ssh file) to that server
[15:36] <ionut_> so i use
[15:37] <ionut_> this command :     scp pathfile user@domain:/destinationpath ?
[15:39] <hyper_ch> ionut_: yes
[15:40] <ionut_> it gives me this error : scp: /home/authorized_keys: Permission denied
[15:40] <jpedroza> ionut_: You need to have at least read permissions on both source and destination
[15:41] <ionut_> yes i had both permisions ,and also i am logated with the root user
[15:41] <ionut_> well
[15:41] <ionut_> so if
[15:41] <ionut_> look
[15:41] <jpedroza> as root you should be able to copy any file...
[15:42] <jpedroza> however, sudo is preferred for safety and security purposes...
[15:42] <ionut_> i am connected on that server with the command sftp myuser@domain
[15:42] <ionut_> yes
[15:42] <ionut_> so i am connected on that server with the command sftp myuser@domain
[15:42] <ionut_> how can i copy any file from my pc on that server
[15:43] <ionut_> i see all the files which i have on my domain
[15:43] <nosrednaekim> "put filename"
[15:43] <ionut_> aaa
[15:43] <ionut_> yea
[15:43] <nosrednaekim> if the file is within the directory that you started the sftp from
[15:43] <ionut_> thank you,now i remember
[15:45] <ionut_> it gives me this errrooooorrr -bash: put: command not found
[15:45] <hyper_ch> ionut_: open konqueror
[15:45] <hyper_ch> ionut_: enter:   fish://user@remote
[15:45] <hyper_ch> ionut_: enter password
[15:45] <hyper_ch> and you can drag and drop now
[15:46] <ionut_> ok
[15:46] <ionut_> i try
[15:52] <ionut_> hey,how can i see the files hidden files ?
[15:53] <ionut_> for example ,the file wich i want to transfer on an domain server if located her /home/ionut/.ssh/file and when i enter in the home folder i don't se another folders
[15:55] <vge> ls -la
[15:55] <ionut_> yes,but not from the command promt,by hand...
[15:55] <jpedroza> ionut_: Are you still in konqueror?
[15:56] <ionut_> yes
[15:56] <vge> view->show hidden files?
[15:57] <jpedroza> view->Adjust View Properties->Show Hidden Files
[15:57] <ionut_> yes,thanks
[16:01] <jpedroza> Ok, it appears that I can mount the remote directory with sshfs and then use it as if it were local. A workaround, at best, but whaddyagonnado?
[16:02] <ionut_> so
[16:02] <ionut_> done
[16:02] <ionut_> i want to make this thing
[16:02] <jpedroza> All copie4d ionut_?
[16:02] <ionut_> ies
[16:02] <ionut_> i want
[16:03] <ionut_> to do this thing
[16:03] <ionut_> to generate in my computer in the file authorized_keys an authorization password
[16:03] <ionut_> and after that i want to transfer it on that domain
[16:04] <ionut_> so when i connect on that domani,it will recognise me and will not ask me again the password
[16:04] <ionut_> done it
[16:04] <ionut_> i have coppied the file authorized_keys in my server domain
[16:05] <ionut_> but when i try to connect with the command root@domain
[16:06] <derdritte> I upgraded from gutsy to intrepid and I can't get multi-key-shortcuts to work. Any tips where I could start the search?
[16:06] <ionut_> it gives me that error ("bash -root comand not found")
[16:07] <jpedroza> what protocol are you wanting to use to connect?
[16:07] <jpedroza> it is throwing that error because root isn't a command.
[16:07] <ionut_> so which command shell i try
[16:08] <ionut_> the protocol
[16:08] <ionut_> i dont understand what u asking
[16:08] <jpedroza> That depends on what you want to do. You could try fish://root@domain in konqueror for a start
[16:09] <ionut_> understand,i try
[16:15] <Undead_Knight> Hello People. Is it possible (or recommended) to use Amarok with arts in Kubuntu 8.10?
[16:16] <jpedroza> Can anyone tell me what package to install to get KDE 3 kio-slaves?
[16:16] <rotzie> hi, yesterday i tried to install kubuntu 8.10 on my external esata raid-1 hdd that is connected via a pcmcia sata interface to my laptop. unfortunately i got many i/o errors while installing. can anyone help me to fix it please?
[16:16] <jpedroza> This would be for Intrepid.
 yes,i used it to
[16:18] <jpedroza> Undead_Knight: I use amarok under Intrepid, not sure what arts is...
[16:18] <Undead_Knight> ionut_: The problem is that I cannot seem to find a way to make the xine engine work with arts... I've installed libxine1-all-plugins and I still don't see a selectable option to use arts.
[16:19] <Undead_Knight> jpedroza: Do you know what engine are you using?
[16:19] <ionut_> now i am in ubuntu 8.04
[16:19] <ionut_> but i am sure that it funcion well
[16:22] <Undead_Knight> I am not able to select arts as an output plugin with the xine engine. Is there a package I am missing?
[16:22] <jpedroza> Undead_Knight: I am just using the default install from apt
[16:23] <ionut_> it could be.the installation was done by u?
[16:23] <Undead_Knight> The installation was done by me, yes.
[16:25] <ionut_> then maybe u missed something
[16:25] <Undead_Knight> I was thinking that maybe something else is using alsa as the output plugin and I cannot use anything else that uses audio.
[16:29] <Undead_Knight> I think I found the problem... I don't have my audio drivers loaded.
[16:29] <Undead_Knight> Darn.
[16:34] <DreadKnight> heya
[16:34] <DreadKnight> how do i start bluetooth from command line?
[16:41] <ionut_> you have it installed allready ? (dreadKnight)
[16:44] <rufsketch1> fuck!
[16:44] <rufsketch1> aslfjknas;kng
[16:44] <rufsketch1> this distro is ridiculous
[16:44] <rufsketch1> i
[16:44] <jussio1> !ohmy | rufsketch1
[16:44] <rufsketch1> just
[16:44] <rufsketch1> want
[16:44] <rufsketch1> to
[16:44] <rufsketch1> install
[16:44] <rufsketch1> ath5k
[16:44]  * rufsketch1 cries
[16:45] <jussio1> !enter | rufsketch1
[16:45] <rufsketch1> -_-
[16:45] <rufsketch1> could someone please link me to an ath5k .deb file.  I'm sick of dealing with all these ridiculous gui's kubuntu has set in place
[16:46] <rufsketch1> I've had to restart 3 times from update i haven't asked for already
[16:46] <rufsketch1> updates*
[16:46] <jpedroza> rufsketch1: There is an intrepid bug: 276508 regarding that driver.
[16:46] <bazhang> rufsketch1, please watch the language
[16:46] <rufsketch1> I don't care, i just want to install it
[16:47] <rotzie> yesterday i tried to install kubuntu 8.10 on my external esata raid-1 hdd that is connected via a pcmcia sata interface to my laptop. unfortunately i got many i/o errors while installing. can anyone help me to fix it please?
[16:47] <rufsketch1> bazhang: i haven't used any foul language since i was told not to te first time
[16:47] <jpedroza> rufsketch1: It appears to be non-functional...
[16:47] <rufsketch1> at all?
[16:47] <rufsketch1> wth?
[16:47] <rufsketch1> fine
[16:47] <rufsketch1> how do i use madwifi?
[16:47] <rufsketch1> i installed madwifi-tools and modprobed ath_pci
[16:48] <rufsketch1> but no wireless card shows up
[16:48] <jpedroza> rufsketch1: The bus can be found here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/276508 I am not sure if the wireless card you have will work with another driver.
[16:48] <rufsketch1> jpedroza: i used madwifi with my card before ath5k existed
[16:49] <jpedroza> rufsketch1: there is this line at the end of the bug "As a datapoint: switching over to the restricted ath_pci driver by doing "modprobe -r ath5k && modprobe ath_pci" allows the connection to work."
[16:50] <rufsketch1> i did modprobe ath_pci
[16:50] <rufsketch1> but it does not work
[16:50] <rufsketch1> and there is no need for modprobe -r, as i never had ath5k to begin with
[16:50] <rufsketch1> jpedroza: ^
[16:50] <jpedroza> right
[16:51] <rotzie> are problems with pcmcia sata-cards/external raid sata drives common with kubuntu 8.1?
[16:52] <rufsketch1> jpedroza: so how do i make it work?
[16:52] <jpedroza> rufsketch1: There are several solutions for the bug listed at the link I pasted above. Unfortunately, I don't have much more to offer in the way of help. =)
[16:52] <jpedroza> =(
[16:52] <White_Pelican>  I just reinstalled hardy heron, and installed jre 1.5. then i installed frostwire and when I tried to run it it gave me a lot of java errors. can someone help me out?
[16:53] <jpedroza> White_Pelican: Do you know what JRE frostwire requires?
[16:54] <White_Pelican> hang on please
[16:54] <jpedroza> White_Pelican: Can you PM me and paste the errors... Might give better idea of what is going on.
[16:55] <jpedroza> It looks like they recommend 1.6 of the JRE
[16:55] <jpedroza> Might try installing that version and see if it fixes the issues
[16:55] <White_Pelican> hmmm
[17:02] <rufsketch1> now what the heck is going on, apt-get won't let me import a key
[17:03] <rufsketch1> gpg: no writable keyring found: eof
[17:03] <jpedroza> rufsketch1: Are you running apt with root privileges?
[17:04] <rufsketch1> oh yeah, that's another question.  if i type in 'su' it asks for the root password.  but i never set a root password.  what's the default?
[17:04] <casian> hello all
[17:05] <rufsketch1> jpedroza: and yes, i am doing it as sudo
[17:05] <rufsketch1> when i get that error
[17:05] <rufsketch1> to get the key i input : sudo wget -O - http://kde42.debian.net/archive_key.asc | apt-key add -
[17:05] <jussio1> !root | rufsketch1
[17:06] <jussio1> and rufsketch1, you shouldnt be using debian repos on ubuntu
[17:06] <rufsketch1> yeah, that's all fine and dandy.  but seems a bit insecure in comparison to 'su'
[17:06] <rufsketch1> jussio1: blahhh, i want latest 4.2 beta from trunk :(
[17:06] <rufsketch1> without having  to compile myself of course
[17:06] <jussio1> rufsketch1: if you want the 4.2 beta, see kubuntu.org
[17:06] <jussio1> or
[17:06] <jussio1> !neon | rufsketch1
[17:07] <rufsketch1> bingo
[17:08] <jmpc> hola
[17:08] <jmpc> alguien habla español
[17:08] <jussio1> !es
[17:08] <jmpc> tengo un problema con la instalacion de call of duty 5 en ubuntu
[17:08] <jussio1> jmpc: English only in here please!
[17:08] <casian> si jmps yo hablo espanol
[17:08] <casian> pero no muy bien
[17:08] <casian> :)
[17:09] <jussio1> casian: please take him to #kubuntu-es ;)
[17:09] <jmpc> vale
[17:19] <tsteele> how to tell if you are connected to your domain
[17:19] <tsteele> my domain
[17:32] <tsteele> anyone available to help with domain questions
[17:33] <lion> hope i can
[17:33] <genii> tsteele: Perhaps also enquire in #ubuntu-server  possibly.
[17:34] <lion> tsteele: what is ur question???
[17:36] <tsteele> I have set up the IP Gateway and DNS settings as well as the connection name which is the domain
[17:37] <tsteele> I tried the domainjoin-cli and was unsuccessful, although if I ping from another machine it does show name and the domain name.
[17:38] <tsteele> I was wondering if there is a way to totally tell if it is connected to the domain or not.
[17:39] <tsteele> I also would like to know if I will be able to see it in active directory?
[17:39] <kosmonaFFFt> hi, are available configure running any applications on KDE 4.1 with hotkeys?
[17:39] <ionut_> does anywone knows if exist an application as good as photoshop pro or almost for linux?!
[17:40] <genii> ionut_: Gimp is very powerful. There is also cinelerra
[17:40] <ionut_> thank you
[17:40] <ionut_> what about video
[17:40] <ionut_> video retouching
[17:41] <genii> ionut_: I have not found any satisfactory video tool yet, unfortunately.
[17:41] <Tm_T> gimp && inkscape <3<3
[17:41] <ionut_> understand.look somewone told me that kino is quiet good
[17:41] <ionut_> is so ?
[17:41] <Tm_T> for some people its fine I believe
[17:42] <ionut_> oh,i understand
[17:42] <genii> ionut_: kino can only edit, you can't do much in the way of retouching or so on
[17:42] <xethx> Anyone know were I could find Cedega
[17:42] <ionut_> nice
[17:42] <Tm_T> !cedega | xethx
[17:42] <lion> tsteele: i never try to use domain join before so i cannot tell you what to do but it seems there is sometinf that u miss configure
[17:43] <christian_> test
[17:44] <tsteele> lion:If I can ping my other servers from the server I am trying to add would that indicate that it is connected?
[17:45] <tsteele> Is there anyone else who may know this
[17:45] <genii> christian_: Yes, we see you
[17:45] <genii> tsteele: I already told you, ask in channel #ubuntu-server
[17:45] <tsteele> sorry my bad will do
[17:47] <christian_> thanks
[17:47] <lion> tsteele: if u ping  and u get reply from the server u suporse to be connected by some way
[17:47] <kosmonaFFFt> есть кто русский?
[17:47] <slow-motion> hi
[17:47] <bazhang> !ru
[17:47] <bazhang> kosmonaFFFt, /join #ubuntu-ru
[17:49] <ionut_> hei.who can tell me how can I regenerate che "fabrique settings"for the file source.list
[17:49] <ionut_> i want that the file be like how he was fir the first time,unmodificated
[17:50] <genii> ionut_: If you have ubuntu-docs  installed, there is the default one at: /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
[17:51] <khakane> i just upgraded to kubuntu ibex from hardy, i have dual monitors.  everything is ok except on my non-main screen, if i move a window around on it, its artifacts the screen
[17:51] <khakane> also cannot right click the desktop on that screen
[17:51] <ionut_> genii : and if i don't have installed the ubuntu docs,how can i install it
[17:51] <jpedroza> khakane: Are you using NVIDIA drivers?
[17:52] <khakane> yes and i had to downgrade to 173 to make the driver even work
[17:52] <khakane> (from 177)
[17:52] <genii> ionut_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-docs
[17:52] <ionut_> ok,i try.thank you
[17:52] <khakane> jpedroza: er sorry that was directed to you
[17:53] <khakane> also weird stuff on my main screen like window decoration buttons disappearing until i hover them
[17:53] <jpedroza> khakane: I am using the NVIDIA driver as well, and had similar issues. right now, I will lose mouse clicks and have to restart kde
[17:54] <khakane> also notice print screen button does not screen capture
[17:54] <khakane> jpedroza: you using 173 or 177?
[17:54] <jpedroza> not sure, let me check
[17:54] <jpedroza> khakane: ^
[17:54] <khakane> k
[17:56] <ionut_> genii: yes,i found the file source.list.now what should i do.remove this one "/etc/apt/sources.list" and copy that
[17:56] <jpedroza> khakane: I am running 177.80
[17:57] <genii> ionut_: Perhaps first just rename the messed up one. Something like:  sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old
[17:57] <khakane> hrmm jpedroza you using multi-display?
[17:57] <jpedroza> khakane: I am, using Xinerama
[17:57] <ionut_> ah,good ideea (like an back-up ) and then ill copy that one
[17:58] <khakane> jpedroza: 1 sec i show you what my screen does
[17:58] <jpedroza> khakane: It was the only way I could get it to work at all. Without Xinerama it was non-functional
[17:59] <khakane> jpedroza: http://www.yernothin.com/artifact.png
[17:59] <khakane> check that
[17:59] <jpedroza> khakane: Can you show me your NVIDIA X Server Settings?
[17:59] <khakane> sure
[18:00] <khakane> replace that png w/ xorg.conf
[18:00] <khakane> seems i have Xinerama turned off
[18:01] <jpedroza> khakane: Try enabling that and see if it helps...
[18:01] <khakane> ok
[18:01] <jpedroza> Section "ServerFlags"
[18:01] <jpedroza>     Option         "Xinerama" "1"
[18:01] <jpedroza> EndSection
[18:01] <jpedroza> That is how I have it in my xorg.conf
[18:02] <khakane> easy way to re-init X?
[18:02] <jpedroza> As I recall that was the only way I could get it functional
[18:02] <khakane> w/o rebooting
[18:02] <jpedroza> Ctrl-alt-Backspace
[18:02] <khakane> k
[18:03] <jpedroza> comes in handy when my mouse stops clicking
[18:03] <jpedroza> =)
[18:07] <khakane> shit now i cant even get X to start
[18:07] <jussio1> khakane: please watch the language
[18:08] <artur_> i tried to install xmms in my kubuntu, but when i try the command apt-get install xmms, it returns a message about there's no candidate for the installation. How could i install xmms
[18:09] <White_Pelican> is it in the rpository?
[18:10] <White_Pelican> as far as I know it's a dead project
[18:10] <White_Pelican> you might need ot find the source and compile it yourself
[18:11] <rufsketch1> what is "linux-backport-modules"? and how can i use it to get ath5k?
[18:12] <ionut_> could anywone give me his (send me) sourlce.list because mine is "busted"
[18:12] <jpedroza> khakane: Sorry, I got disconnected
[18:15] <White_Pelican> busted?
[18:15] <jpedroza> Nah, Pidgin deid
[18:16] <nosrednaekim> ioelu: just select a new sever in adept->software sources and hit apply, it will regenerate it
[18:16] <ionut_> is so modified than it gives me a "thousands of error"
[18:16] <White_Pelican> ionut accept the file
[18:16] <artur_> White_Pelican: ok, is there some other that you can recommend?
[18:16] <khakane> jpedroza: i fixed my widget thing
[18:16] <ionut_> i have accepted it
[18:16] <nosrednaekim> rufsketch1: if you are on intrepid, install it and blacklist ath_pci and ath_hal
[18:16] <White_Pelican> I use amarok
[18:16] <khakane> and now i remember why i didnt use xinerama, i like my stuff to snap within a monitor
[18:17] <jpedroza> khakane: Ahhhhhh
[18:17] <rufsketch1> nosrednaekim: will just modprobe -r work?
[18:17] <White_Pelican> I am not used to the amarok 2 yet
[18:17] <artur_> White_Pelican: i have amarok, i'd like to try another one
[18:17] <rufsketch1> or must i blacklist?
[18:17] <White_Pelican> will take time
[18:17] <khakane> anyways, i still have the artifact problems
[18:17] <artur_> amarok2?
[18:17] <White_Pelican> I'm still on hardy so I use 1.4
[18:17] <artur_> hmm
[18:17] <rufsketch1> i did modrpobe -r and then modprobe ath5k and still nothin
[18:17] <jpedroza> artur_: I use Songbird...
[18:17] <khakane> http://www.yernothin.com/artifact.png  <- could someone explain the artifacting on the right screen?
[18:17] <artur_> jpedroza
[18:17] <artur_> jpedroza: thnx... i'll try
[18:18] <nosrednaekim> rufsketch1: modprobe -r what?
[18:18] <khakane> jpedroza: did you see anything in my xorg.conf that would make 177 nvidia drivers not run?
[18:18] <rufsketch1> modprobe -r ath_pci ath_hal
[18:19] <jpedroza> khakane: Nothing jumped out at me...
[18:19] <nosrednaekim> rufsketch1: yeah, that should be enough, then modprobe ath5k, and run "iwconfig" and see if it sees a wlan0
[18:19] <xethx> Could anyone help me fix this problem
[18:19] <khakane> hrm weird
[18:19] <xethx> KCrash: Application 'ksmoothdock' crashing...
[18:19] <xethx> KCrash cannot reach kdeinit, launching directly.
[18:19] <jpedroza> khakane: As I recall I used the NVIDIA xserver settings application to create my xorg.conf
[18:20] <rufsketch1> nosrednaekim: it doesn't, but i might need to reboot
[18:20] <rufsketch1> br
[18:20] <rufsketch1> b
[18:20] <nosrednaekim> rufsketch1: wait.... first put ath_pci in the disable modules in /etc/defualt/linux-<tab>
[18:21] <nosrednaekim> uhh "default"...
[18:27] <S17lans> good evening
[18:27] <S17lans> where can i ask a question about some packages ?
[18:27] <nosrednaekim> evening S17lans
[18:27] <nosrednaekim> depends on the package... but go ahead and ask
[18:28] <S17lans> in Win XP i was using rapidshare downloader for rapidshare premium accounts to download
[18:28] <S17lans> what should i install to do the same job in kubuntu 8.10 ?
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> uhh, good question... did you check if rapid share makes a linux version of the program
[18:29] <White_Pelican> what is rapid share?
[18:31] <nosrednaekim> S17lans: found this http://icehot.wordpress.com/2008/12/29/linux-rapidshare-downloader/
[18:33] <nosrednaekim> S17lans: and this http://achmadz.blogspot.com/2008/02/rapidshare-downloader-for-linux.html
[18:35] <ionut_> does anybody where i can found an tutorial,or some help to install dekiwiki on ubuntu
[18:35] <ionut_> ?
[18:36] <khakane> where do i change background settings in kde4?
[18:37] <nosrednaekim> khaije1: right click on desktop, configure
[18:38] <khakane> ah ok
[18:38] <Till> hello, i have installed kubuntu 8.10 with kde 4 and the screen goes off and on every few seconds... have you got ideas how to solve this?
[18:38] <khakane> ive only got background on my main monitor, not on both
[18:38] <ionut_> change also on the other
[18:39] <vbgunz_> how do I properly set my $TERM? I was told *not* to put an export TERM in my .bashrc but to use term to *set* it. how?
[18:39] <nosrednaekim> Till: goes blank until you move the mouse?
[18:39] <Till> nosrednaekim: yes
[18:40] <nosrednaekim> ok... thats probably power saving settings under "display" in system settings
[18:41] <Till> nosrednaekim: no, it goes off when i use the mouse to open a menu, and then goes on again. and sometimes it goes off and on even when i do nothing.
[18:42] <nosrednaekim> wow... thats strange
[18:42] <vbgunz_> what is $TERM set too by default?
[18:42] <nosrednaekim> do you have compositing/effects turned on?
[18:42] <elendhale> bonjour ya des francais de conecter ?
[18:42] <nosrednaekim> !fr
[18:42] <Till> nosrednaekim: i don't know, i'm on windows now
[18:44] <genii> vbgunz_: linux   or xterm
[18:44] <Till> i thought maybe something is wrong with the graphics card...
[18:44] <genii> (when from konsole etc)
[18:45] <Till> maybe i need an update for the graphics driver?
[18:45] <khakane> hrmm i cant even right click on that monitor
[18:45] <khakane> what gives heh
[18:47] <vbgunz_> genii: I shouldn't try to export TERM in my .bashrc, correct?
[18:48] <Till> nosrednakim: how can i turn effects and compositing off?
[18:49] <nosrednaekim> Till, right click on the title bar and select properties->effects-> and disable them
[18:49] <Till> ok thank you!
[18:49] <nosrednaekim> (if they are on)
[18:56] <yacc> Anything that I can try out in the console to see if my sounddriver works?
[18:59] <yacc> I'm trying to aplay a WAV file and it claims to be playing it, but my laptop stays mute :(
[19:00] <yacc> It even does claim to be playing back to the right device :(
[19:00] <Arv3n> yacc, have you checked your mixiers ettings?
[19:00] <yacc> Arv3n, yes, with alsamixer
[19:01] <yacc> Btw: it's "00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)"
[19:01] <Muzer> What would a good app be for capturing video from a webcam?
[19:01] <ionut_> hei does anyone where i can found some help with my dekiwiki installation,on an linux ubuntu S.O
[19:01] <marek_> hi is there any easy way to undelete data? i deleted one big folder, just one minute before, then i realised i might need it in future...
[19:02] <Muzer> marek_: How did you delete it? Through the command line or through dolphin/konqueror?
[19:02] <marek_> via dolphin with shift-delete
[19:02] <yacc> marek_, well, not really => in theory you should stop using the filesystem immediatly, and you can try to recover it manually, ...
[19:02] <marek_> Muzer
[19:03] <Muzer> ah, shift+delete
[19:03] <Muzer> yeah, there are apps you can use to recover files manually
[19:03] <Muzer> don't do anything with that hard drive though
[19:03] <Muzer> install apps onto a different hard drive, or at least partition
[19:03] <marek_> yacc Muzer although theese data are on external drive, its not worth it... thx anyway
[19:06] <xethx> Anyone know how to fix this?
[19:06] <xethx> KCrash: Application 'ksmoothdock' crashing...
[19:06] <xethx> KCrash cannot reach kdeinit, launching directly.
[19:07] <ionut_> i made it,i have installed deki wiki on my PC and function extremly gooooooood
[19:17] <lee> any good temperature monitoring programs ?  unable to find any in package manager..
[19:18] <genii> lee: Kima applet is not bad. You need ksensors as backend
[19:18] <lee> thanks
[19:22] <amerigo> !windows
[19:22] <khakane> ugh this is just making me mad now lol
[19:25] <chronos_> #ubuntu-ru
[19:25] <vineet> hi
[19:25] <vineet> anybody home??
[19:25] <chronos_> hi
[19:26] <vineet> what exactly is this kubuntu konversation??
[19:26] <vineet> i am sort of new to Linux
[19:27] <dr_willis> konversation is a IRC chat client
[19:27] <vineet> so i am chatting with people from different parts of the world?
[19:27] <dr_willis> Yes. all over the world.
[19:28] <vineet> thats cool
[19:28] <vineet> hi to all.. :-)
[19:28] <chronos_> It is pleasant to me. I take pleasure
[19:28] <dr_willis> from the North Pole to the South Pole, to the East Pole to the West Pole.
[19:28] <lee> lol
[19:29] <chronos_> There were big problems with motherboard foxconn
[19:40] <khakane> oh awesome, updated to kde4.2 now i login and it drops me right back to login screen.  where is the log that will show me the way?
[19:41] <Tm_T> khakane: /vat/log/X* and ~/.xsession-errors*
[19:44] <khakane> great now X wont even start
[19:45] <ionut_> i want to extract a file from a zip file in an folder,how can i do,doesn anyone knows the command
[19:45] <sledge> ionut_: unzip
[19:45] <ionut_> yes,but from terminal
[19:45] <ionut_> from promt command
[19:46] <sledge> ionut_: unzip
[19:47] <khakane> ok X starts, still no login
[19:47] <khakane> nothing in .xsession_errors
[19:47] <Tm_T> khakane: and xorg log in /var ?
[19:49] <genii> ionut_: like:   unzip zipfile.zip -d /some/other/directory                         if you want it in some other place
[19:49] <khakane> kdm_greet cannot open default user face
[19:49] <khakane> ^ there is my error
[19:56] <T3rmy> how may I see in ubuntu in which frequency functions my RAM ?
[19:57] <T3rmy> (is it possible to see also the amount of spare RAM and the amount of used by programs?)
[19:58] <genii> T3rmy: As for finding the speed of your ram, it will be somewhere in the result of: sudo lshw -class memory
[19:59]  * genii hands BluesKaj a large Kubuntu mug of coffee
[19:59] <T3rmy> the FSB of my laptop is 800Mhz
[19:59] <T3rmy> the RAM is also at 800MHz
[19:59] <T3rmy> but the command you gave me
[19:59] <T3rmy> reports 667
[19:59] <T3rmy> (I set additional RAM of 800Mhz)
[19:59] <genii> T3rmy: I tend to believe the result of the lshw
[20:00] <T3rmy> yes...m2
[20:00] <T3rmy> but because the modules
[20:00] <BluesKaj> thx genii :)
[20:00] <T3rmy> CAN work properly at 800
[20:00] <genii> T3rmy: If you have 2 diferent speed sticks of ram , it will usually go to whatever speed is slowest of the two
[20:00] <T3rmy> shouldn't I be able to set them at 667
[20:00] <T3rmy> or it is a bad idea?
[20:01] <T3rmy> (I bought 2 new models to be the same in order to avoid this)
[20:01] <genii> T3rmy: You should be able (if your bios supports) to set your ram speed anything lower than what it is actually is
[20:01] <genii> BluesKaj: Anytime :)
[20:01] <chronos_> I congratulate all happy New Year
[20:02] <T3rmy> my the manufacturer
[20:02] <T3rmy> the original RAM was @ 667
[20:02] <T3rmy> as x-mas present
[20:02] <T3rmy> I updated
[20:03] <T3rmy> by putting 2 new modules that function at 800
[20:03] <T3rmy> will I be able to have the function at 800?
[20:03] <T3rmy> (or this could cause malfunction?)
[20:04] <genii> T3rmy: If you have two modules of 800, they should function at 800 if motherboard supports
[20:04] <T3rmy> I can't find out if the motherboard support it...
[20:04] <T3rmy> (I bought the laptop the previous year)
[20:06] <genii> T3rmy: If they run slower, nothing will be hurt. It will just not be using the complete capacity
[20:09] <khakane> sigh
[20:13] <T3rmy> genil the laptop is a HP
[20:13] <T3rmy> dv9500 series...
[20:14] <T3rmy> but I can't find any good site
[20:14] <T3rmy> that can tell how much is the max
[20:14] <T3rmy> (Also I wonder.... If I manually increase the frequency?)
[20:18] <T3rmy> genii:
[20:18] <T3rmy> r u here?
[20:24]  * BluesKaj goes for a walk to community mailbox
[20:26] <S17lans> hello all
[20:26] <S17lans> is there a rar program i can install in kubuntu ?
[20:26] <S17lans> like winrar etc
[20:27] <genii> !info unrar-free
[20:30] <khakane> jpedroza: i fixed it all up
[20:30] <khakane> upgraded to newest nvidia, upgraded to kde 4.2
[20:30] <genii> khakane: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit           then:  cat ~/.xsession-errors | pastebinit                This is all a text based way to show us by pastebin what your xsession-errors file contains, which may have some clues.
[20:30] <khakane> genii: got it ALL working ;)
[20:30] <genii> khakane: Ah, too late I see :)
[20:31] <khakane> hah yea just got it up and back in
[20:31] <khakane> kde 4.2 is sexy :)
[20:41] <Ellana> erm, whats the french chat please?
[20:43] <genii> Ellana:  #kubuntu-fr    or #ubuntu-fr
[20:43] <Ellana> thanks
[20:48] <chronos_> Ellana:I congratulate happy New Year
[20:48] <Ellana> euh?
[20:48] <Ellana> how can you give congratulations to  a new year?
[20:54] <zirunic> hello
[20:55] <khakane> am i missing something.. my middle click to paste is gone..
[20:57] <khakane> or is it more left mouse highlight isnt copying to clipboard
[20:58] <khakane> and now it works.. weird
[21:01] <aaroncampbell> How can I find out who packages netbeans for the repos and when v6.5 will be available?
[21:06] <khakane> now if i could get wobbly windows to work
[21:06] <khakane> seems like some compiz stuff is incomplete
[21:06] <khakane> like all my icons in compizconfig settings manager are missing
[21:07] <Tm_T> I use Kwin wobbliness if I need one
[21:07] <khakane> i guess i dont know the dif between compiz and kwin
[21:07] <Tm_T> Kwin is what KDE uses by default
[21:08] <chronos_> Ellana:Unfortunately, only good wishes
[21:08] <HappySmileMan> khakane: KWin is default WM for KDE4, it has it's own effects now
[21:08] <Ellana> do I know you?
[21:08] <HappySmileMan> So people with KDE4 don't need to install compiz for effects (though Compiz has more than KWin)
[21:09] <khakane> well i have compiz, i like its options, i just cant seem to get some to work after hte upgrade, and like i said, my icons in compiz settings manager are gone
[21:21] <Soliloquial> what's a good ftp app?
[21:21] <Pliskin> konqueror ?
[21:22] <hallowname> Soliloquial: kftp? gftp? filezilla?
[21:22] <Soliloquial> forgot about that
[21:22] <Soliloquial> thanks
[21:22] <Soliloquial> filezilla drives me crazy
[21:22] <hallowname> Soliloquial: yup :)
[21:22] <hallowname> Soliloquial: i dunno, i use konqueror
[21:22] <chronos_> Ellana:Is not present are not familiar but at me good mood and I wish to share it. And present I can two good songs
[21:23] <Ellana> are you english chronos_?
[21:23] <Pliskin> Soliloquial : there is many Qt/KDE apps, so no need to use a GTK alternative...
[21:23] <Pliskin> are*
[21:24] <Soliloquial> yeah
[21:24] <Soliloquial> filezilla is terrible on any os
[21:24] <chronos_>  Ellana:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VFyZyIesEs
[21:24] <Ellana> jpeux pas sa bug -_-
[21:24] <slow-motion> n8
[21:25] <Pliskin> !fr
[21:25] <Daisuke_Ido> Pliskin: just because the kde/qt apps exist doesn't mean they're the best apps for the job
[21:25] <Pliskin> For many cases, they are
[21:26] <Pliskin> (sorry for my english)
[21:26] <hallowname> anyone here want to test an artificial intelligence plasmoid? you need qt-copy and kde4 trunk
[21:27] <khakane> ok now i got wobbly working, but it broke my Window Decoration, i cannot change it
[21:31] <chronos_> Ellana: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VFyZyIesEs
[21:31] <Ellana> chut u_U
[21:34] <khakane> ah hah! its using kwin, i try to switch it to compiz and it fails :|
[21:48] <khakane> ok now if i can figure how to turn wobbly on in kwin
[21:49] <hallowname> khakane: right click title bar of any window > configure behavior > desktop effects > all effects > wobbly windows
[21:49] <khakane> oo havent seen this screen thanks
[21:51] <chris_> could anyone explain the difference between the 'icedtea6-plugin' and 'icedtea-gcjwebplugin'. Do i need both to have java support in the browser??
[21:53] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[22:00] <chris_> Got an error w/ adept and suggestions :
[22:00] <chris_> APT Error. Context:
[22:00] <chris_>     Package download failed,
[22:00] <chris_>     Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[22:15] <tarmath> are there software ppa's that the kde developers using kubuntu use to always have th latest code running for development?
[22:17] <chronos_> Ellana: i`m not english, sorry
[22:21] <JontheEchidna> tarmath: no, they do source compiles themselves
[22:21] <JontheEchidna> no packages involved
[22:24] <chronos_>   #anime
[22:24] <tarmath> JontheEchidna: you means they all source compile all of kde and not only the particular components/lib they want to work on?
[22:25] <JontheEchidna> yes, generally
[22:27] <tarmath> So admitting I want to start contributing patches or the such, I have to compile everything even if I just want to hack on a small bug in lets say, kate?
[22:29] <JontheEchidna> no, you could probably just check out kdelibs and kdesdk and compile those
[22:30] <tarmath> ok I get it
[22:30] <tarmath> thanks !
[22:30] <JontheEchidna> you're welcome
[22:31] <blandon> hola
[22:33] <Jo-Luis> hola
[22:33] <Jo-Luis> soy nuevo q se hace aqui
[22:34] <jpds> !es | Jo-Luis
[22:42] <issa_> Hi, please help me. Suddenly my hd became 100% full, and so when I restarted kubuntu didn't store the last session (obviously) so when I logged in again I was in with a fresh session with default panel, desktop and everything as it looks like first time I installed kubuntu. How do I retrieve the previous sessions that had been saved before the very previous one that wasn't!
[22:42] <issa_> ?
[22:46] <francesco_> ciao a tutti (:
[22:48] <issa_> Hi, please help me. Suddenly my hd became 100% full, and so when I restarted kubuntu didn't store the last session (obviously) so when I logged in again I was in with a fresh session with default panel, desktop and everything as it looks like first time I installed kubuntu. How do I retrieve the previous sessions that had been saved before the very previous one that wasn't!?
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> quiet today
[23:10] <antiquark> for many people it's time they go to sleep
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> indeed, but the globe is a 24 hour place
[23:18] <tempesta> sera a tutti
[23:18] <tempesta> con 8.10 non mi rileva la web cam chi puo0' aiutarmi?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> english only here, tempesta
[23:18] <en1gma> im trying to "boot" kubuntu 8.10 amd64 on my NF4 mboard with an 8800gts g92 in it and it dont make it to the desktop
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: is it in the livecd?
[23:19] <en1gma> is there a cheat code i need to put in so it can boot with just basic graphics
[23:19] <en1gma> yea the live dvd
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> did you md5 check the image as well as verify the burned cd?
[23:20] <en1gma> yea i got the image of utorrent and did a verify after i burned it with imgburn
[23:20] <en1gma> but didnt do an md5 check
[23:20] <en1gma> i have the iso still
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> !md5
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: if it check out we'll play from there
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: possibly a bad image
[23:21] <en1gma> this isnt no bad image
[23:21] <en1gma> its just a run around
[23:22] <en1gma> it says no graphics driver
[23:22] <en1gma> and kicks me back to the shell
[23:22] <en1gma> if i do "startx" i get fatal server error
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> then try:
[23:25] <gustavo_> maybe, you can edit /etc/X11/xserver-xorg in the shell, and type "vesa"  in the section Device, driver en1gma
[23:25] <gustavo_> then startx
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: if the image is bad it wont boot to livecd
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: its important to check
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> you can also try#
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | en1gma
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: you must check your cd or anything you do is pointless as the data you have burned may be garbage
[23:29] <en1gma> ActionParsnip yea im following the directions for md5 check but where is the md5 file for the dvd amd64
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: wherever you downloaded the iso from
[23:29] <what_if> can I install kde3 and kde4 in 8.10 with no problems ?
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> what_if: you have to compile it
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: what version of kubuntu do you have?
[23:30] <en1gma> ActionParsnip that makes no since at all "where ever you get the DVD iso from...." i said i got it off torrents and you want me to trust the iso AND md5?
[23:30] <en1gma> i got the kubuntu 8.10 amd64 dvd
[23:30] <what_if> ActionParsnip: I consider that a no
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: if you got it via http or ftp you would have seen an md5 sum alongside the files, so it makes absolute sense
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: let me find the md5 sum for you
[23:31] <bahaa> hi guys
[23:31] <bahaa> i have a problem with my kubuntu installtion
[23:31] <en1gma> thanks
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: http://www.stchman.com/create_cd.html
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> bahaa: care to expand??
[23:32] <bahaa> my screen acts like it's turned on and of
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> what_if: depends on how you view compiling
[23:32] <bahaa> when pressing any key on keyboard
[23:32] <cormorano> ciao a tutti
[23:33] <what_if> ActionParsnip: I am using the computer for daily use in college, so If I cannot install both kde3 and kde4 from apt, I will not be doing it .
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> what_if: you'r system, your rules
[23:33] <cormorano> come faccio a stoppare kde 4.1 della mia kubuntu per installare i driver nVidia ?
[23:34] <bahaa> ActionParsnip:
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> bahaa: set your refresh rate lower
[23:35] <gustavo_> cormorano, e fatto in casa, aplicaciones, sistema, controladores de hardware, va solito carmorano
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> !es | gustavo_
[23:36] <gustavo_> thanks ubottu, sorry :)
[23:36] <cormorano> gustavo_: tnx, but i must install the beta driver ...
[23:37] <cormorano> gustavo_: i must stop kde fron console ...
[23:37] <gustavo_> I don´t know how cormorano, srry, happy christmas and happy new year
[23:37] <cormorano> init 3 not work ... in kubuntu ?
[23:38] <genii> cormorano: telinit 2
[23:38] <bahaa> ActionParsnip: problem still exist
[23:39] <bahaa> i choosed the lowest refresh rate
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> bahaa: what gfx card do you have?
[23:39] <bahaa> it don't give this issue on gnome
[23:39] <cormorano> genii: tnx, but not work .. :(
[23:40] <gustavo_> cormorano, maybe ctrl+alt+f1
[23:40] <bahaa> ActionParsnip: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[23:40] <genii> cormorano: telinit 1   will give you single user (no kde/gui)
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> bahaa: maybe a websearch using that card will help
[23:42] <jmacdonagh> hey, i'm using the kde 4.2 beta 2 packages on 8.10. does anyone else have trouble changing the date / time in the System Settings?
[23:42] <bahaa> ActionParsnip: but i don't have problems with gnome
[23:42] <bahaa> it's just on kde
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> bahaa: strange
[23:43] <bahaa> my distro is basicly ubuntu 8.10
[23:43] <gustavo_> cormorano maybe also, ctrl+alt+backspace, then select terminal
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> bahaa: i've no idea, maybe someone else can chime in or ask later.
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> bahaa: does it work ok in fluxbox?
[23:43] <bahaa> i asked here before
[23:43] <bahaa> i have openbox also
[23:43] <jmacdonagh> bahaa: whats the issue? i came in a little late
[23:43] <bahaa> and it works fine
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> bahaa: ok in openbox?
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> ok
[23:44] <bahaa> yes
[23:44] <bahaa> jmacdonagh: my screen flashes with every keystoke
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> (23:32:46) bahaa: my screen acts like it's turned on and of
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> (23:33:01) bahaa: when pressing any key on keyboard
[23:44] <jmacdonagh> bahaa: i had that same issue. what hardware are you running?
[23:45] <bahaa> Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[23:45] <jmacdonagh> i had to upgrade my dell bios
[23:45] <bahaa> i don't have this problem on Gnome
[23:45] <jmacdonagh> it happened on my dell mini
[23:45] <jmacdonagh> worked fine in gnome, acted all weird in kubuntu
[23:45] <jmacdonagh> does the computer kind of slow down a little when the screen dims?
[23:46] <bahaa> do u mean i have to install the S3 Driver and don't relay on VESA Drivers
[23:46] <jmacdonagh> mine had nothing to do with display drivers. i had an integrated intel card
[23:46] <bahaa> no
[23:46] <bahaa> it's normal
[23:46] <bahaa> my vga is integrated also
[23:47] <jmacdonagh> hmm.... well its strange that we had the exact same issue. it might be two different causes with the same symptoms. can you check if there is a bios update available for your mainboard?
[23:47] <bahaa> this is my desktop pc
[23:47] <bahaa> but it works fine in gnome and even in windows
[23:48] <bahaa> let me try yo install s3 driver
[23:48] <jmacdonagh> i know, the same thing happened with me
[23:48] <jmacdonagh> yeah, go ahead and try that
[23:48] <bahaa> it's not related to bios anymore
[23:48] <jmacdonagh> i think kde (specifically powerdevil) might be sending weird signals
[23:48] <jmacdonagh> anyway, a bios update on my dell mini fixed the issue 100%
[23:48] <bahaa> should i try the driver form reproisetry
[23:49] <bahaa> or get another one
[23:49] <jmacdonagh> repo is your best bet
[23:49] <bahaa> ok
[23:49] <bahaa> back in mins
[23:49] <jmacdonagh> gl
[23:50] <jmacdonagh> so is anyone using the beta 2 kde 4.2 packages on 8.10?
[23:51] <Dragnslcr> Yup
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> jmacdonagh: used to, hated it and ran back to the apron strings of 4.1 + fluxbox
[23:52] <jmacdonagh> Dragnslcr: are you able to change your time zone or use NTP from the system settings?
[23:52] <Dragnslcr> Dunno, haven't tried. Let me check
[23:52] <jmacdonagh> when i try to make any changes there it says "Cannot change date / time" and a couple other things. looking at the backtrace it says that its incorrectly trying to call kdesu
[23:53] <jmacdonagh> i submitted to the kde team but they said it was a kubuntu issue
[23:53] <bahaa> jmacdonagh: the driver is alredy install
[23:53] <bahaa> how i can activate it
[23:54] <Dragnslcr> Well, I can't change my timezone without having NTP enabled
[23:54] <jmacdonagh> bahaa: click on the kde button and search for Hardware Drivers at the top
[23:54] <jmacdonagh> Dragnslcr: do you get error messages back?
[23:54] <bahaa> jmacdonagh:
[23:55] <Dragnslcr> Yeah
[23:55] <Dragnslcr> "Unable to contact time server..."
[23:55] <Dragnslcr> Then "Can not set date" and "Error setting new time zone."
[23:55] <jmacdonagh> Dragnslcr: that's the one. if you run systemsettings in console you'll see it spit stuff back about kdesu
[23:55] <bahaa> jmacdonagh: done
[23:56] <jmacdonagh> bahaa: does it show your driver? you might need to click on it and click Activate
[23:56] <bahaa> jmacdonagh: get empty list
[23:56] <jmacdonagh> bahaa: oic
[23:56] <Soliloquial> somehow I screwed up the graphics when I resize windows...I see black bars popping up everywhere...anyone know how this is fixable?
[23:56] <jmacdonagh> bahaa: hold on
[23:56] <Dragnslcr> jmacdonagh- yup, "kdesu: Unknown option 'attach'."
[23:57] <bahaa> jmacdonagh: i can submit my xorg.conf
[23:57] <jmacdonagh> Dragnslcr: so, do you know the proper channel to report these kinds of problems? it looks like the kubuntu team wanted me to report it here
[23:57] <jmacdonagh> bahaa: yeah, go ahead
[23:57] <jmacdonagh> http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/
[23:58] <Dragnslcr> jmacdonagh- you could try the mailing list, see if it's already a known issue
[23:59] <bahaa> jmacdonagh: http://home.bahaa.biz/downloads/xorg.conf
[23:59] <jmacdonagh> Dragnslcr: will do, thanks for confirming with me
[23:59] <jmacdonagh> for me* i guess is the correct way of saying it ;)