[02:21] <maxb> How does Soyuz figure out whether a package is completely arch-indep and thus only needs submitting to the i386 buildds?
[02:23] <crimsun> other than debian/control:^Architecture: all ?
[02:24] <maxb> Does Soyuz actually have access to that? It's not in the changes file, so it would have to actually extract the source package to read it
[02:24] <crimsun> don't know, tbh
[02:24] <stdin> it's in the .dsc
[02:25] <crimsun> yes, it can grab from the .dsc, but i don't know if soyuz does anything additional
[02:25] <stdin> I doubt it
[02:26] <maxb> Interesting, I didn't realize there was a field in the dsc
[02:26] <maxb> I wonder where that field gets populated from
[02:26]  * maxb hunts in dpkg sourcecode
[02:27] <stdin> it's basically the source section of debian/control plus the checksums
[02:30] <maxb> yah... except the source section *doesn't* have an Architecture field
[02:34] <stdin> probably best not to decode dpkg, it tends to make people's head explode
[02:41] <maxb> Hmm, so the dsc arch is calculated by folding together the various debian/control arches in perplexing ways
[02:52] <maxb> or not that perplexing actually
[09:10] <murisfurder> Yo
[09:10] <murisfurder> where can i download launchpad
[12:33] <quentusrex_> Help. I've uploaded an orig for my project, but the orig contains the wrong files. How do I delete the orig that is already there?
[13:07] <asabil> hi all
[17:00] <Psialonn> Greetings.  I'm hoping someone can help me.  I have some Bazaar branches hosted on launchpad.net and every time I push a new revision I get messages like this:  "Format <RepositoryFormatKnit1> for ... is deprecated - please use 'bzr upgrade' to get better performance". I've already done 'bzr upgrade' on my personal master copies of the branches and it did upgrade the format and has been working fine.  But I still get these messa
[17:00] <Psialonn> ges when I push to launchpad.net.  I'm guessing the copies hosted on launchpad.net need to be upgraded too?  How should I do that?  I don't want to screw anything up.  Thanks.
[17:00] <exarkun> I get that, too, and I can't seem to get rid of it.
[17:01] <exarkun> I've been told `bzr upgrade <launchpad url>´ should fix it, but it doesn't.
[18:36] <RobinRowe1> I'm the project leader for CinePaint and have a new launchpad account. How do I link existing CinePaint page on launchpad to me?
[18:38] <beuno> RobinRowe1, do you know the current owner at all?
[18:51] <oledole> Q: It should be possible to create new users on staging.launchpad.net right? So I can try out creating new projects? I've posted my email in the registration page, but no activiation e-mail has arrived
[18:53] <beuno> oledole, no, you can't create users because staging doesn't send out email  :/
[19:45] <oledole> beuno: hmm, i see. is there a test user i can use? the "before you register your project" page says "You can use that server to create sample projects"
[19:46] <oledole> but as far as i can tell i need to log in to create a new project?
[19:46] <beuno> oledole, well, you can register in Launchpad itself, and then the account will be propagated to staging
[19:46] <beuno> it should be updated every 24-48hs
[19:46] <oledole> ah, i see. i tried that, but i only created my user a couple of hours ago. will wait and see then. thanks :)
[19:47] <beuno> we should find a way to speed that process up though, as it's understandable that new users will want to create new accounts and projects without waiting 2 days
[19:47] <beuno> so I'll send an email about it  :)
[19:47] <oledole> thanks :D
[19:49] <beuno> done
[19:49] <beuno> make sure you poke us if your account hasn't propagated in a day or two
[19:55] <oledole> will do, thanks for your help :)
[19:56] <beuno> you're welcome
[20:54] <asabil> hi all
[20:54] <asabil> is it possible to rename a project and turn it into a meta project ?
[22:08] <spm_> asabil: more or less. the rename is easy; a meta project is created with the desired name; and the existing projects shoved under it. Pls to be creating a question via answers and it will get seen to asap.
[22:09] <asabil> ok, so I just should ask a question via the "answers" page to get a project renamed
[22:09] <asabil> and then another question to get a meta project created ?
[22:09] <spm_> that works best, yes
[22:10] <asabil> okidoki will do, thanks a lot
[22:20] <asabil> spm_: done: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/55914
[22:23] <spm_> asabil: cool - did you want that rename now or later?
[22:23] <asabil> now if possible
[22:24] <spm_> sure, one sec, consider it a new years eve pressie from us future TZ folks ;-)
[22:24] <beuno> asabil, note that you can't convert a project into a super project
[22:24] <beuno> so you have to create a new super project
[22:24] <beuno> so you may want to think about the rename  :)
[22:24] <beuno> hi spm_!
[22:24] <spm_> beuno: how's it going over there!
[22:25] <beuno> spm_, wonderfuly. I've gotten to the point where I missed programming, so I'm poking at loggerhead
[22:25] <beuno> I have 2 new master plans to make it stop giving away all the ram to anyone who asks for it
[22:25] <beuno> how about you?
[22:25] <asabil> beuno: a super project can also be renamed right ?
[22:26] <beuno> asabil, I guess it can, yes. Although, you may want to avoid renames as much as possible
[22:26] <beuno> people tend to bookmark, branch from URLs, etc
[22:26] <asabil> yes I agree
[22:27] <spm_> asabil: so. still want that rename? I'm one click away from making it so :-)
[22:27] <asabil> go for it ! :D
[22:27] <spm_> https://edge.launchpad.net/people-core
[22:27] <spm_> is done
[22:27] <asabil> thanks a lot :)
[22:28] <spm_> Ursinha: !!!! Howdy!
[22:28] <Ursinha> hahaha
[22:28] <Ursinha> hi spm_ :D
[22:28] <spm_> beuno: I suspect I'm gunna have to get my lart out and attidude readjust if you're loggerhead hacking
[22:28] <Ursinha> is beuno here too?
[22:28] <spm> yup
[22:29] <beuno> hey hey Ursinha
[22:29] <Ursinha> hey beuno!
[22:29] <Ursinha> guys, we need to get a life :P
[22:29] <spm> where else. it's only midnight over your way. so early.
[22:29] <spm> heh
[22:29] <beuno> Ursinha, another one?  this one on IRC is already exhausting enough...
[22:29] <Ursinha> spm, what time is it over there?
[22:29] <Ursinha> beuno, indeed! :D
[22:29] <Ursinha> hahahaha
[22:29] <spm> Ursinha: 9.30am
[22:30] <spm> Am trying to come up with reasons for avoiding doing more gardening. yesterday was about 3m3 of mulch and 2m3 of dirt. all by hand: wheelbarrow, buckets, shovel. ie /me is *sore*
[22:31] <beuno> ouch
[22:31] <beuno> that's a good way to miss work  ;)
[22:31] <Ursinha> ouch^2
[22:32] <spm> heh truely
[22:32] <spm> is actually a nice break - relatively mindless and not OMG servers are falling stressful. works for me. :-)
[22:33] <beuno> spm, I've been sleeping about 10hs a day. I like that kind of mindless tasks better!
[22:33] <Ursinha> beuno, me too
[22:34] <spm> beuno: so... you're sleeping less then?
[22:34] <spm> :-P
[22:34] <spm> damn. could only hold the straight face for 2 seconds that time :-)
[22:34] <beuno> hahha
[22:35] <beuno> point for spm\
[22:35] <spm> Whoohooo! beuno 576, spm 2
[22:36] <beuno> oooh, I think you have more than 2
[22:36] <beuno> OTOH, most of them problably come from Ursinha!
[22:36] <spm> well yeah - I'm having to use 128bit computers to track the score she has over me
[22:37] <Ursinha> hahahaha
[22:39] <beuno> Ursinha, what have you been up to?
[22:39] <Ursinha> lately I've been sleeping and playing videogame
[22:39] <Ursinha> :P
[22:39] <beuno> uh, which one?
[22:39] <spm> beuno: which sleeping???? ;-)
[22:39] <beuno> hahahahaa
[22:39] <Ursinha> ahuhauahuah
[22:39] <beuno> I like to go easy first\
[22:40] <spm> heh
[22:40] <beuno> these australians...  always in a hurry
[22:40] <spm> in a hurry to get to the beach!
[22:40] <Ursinha> beuno, I'm playing snes emulator on a ps2
[22:40] <Ursinha> :)
[22:41] <beuno> oh, old school!
[22:41] <Ursinha> we spent the whole afternoon to finish megaman x3
[22:41] <spm> beuno: I've also got a fix for loggerhead - given current number of restarts lately - I suggest we shift the entire year into the period between christmas and nyd.
[22:42] <spm> Ursinha: errr. *why* a snes emulator?
[22:42] <beuno> spm, shift the entire year?
[22:42] <spm> beuno: yup
[22:42] <Ursinha> spm, because I only have a ps3, not a snes :)
[22:42] <beuno> have we finally bought that time machine we've all been wanting?
[22:42] <spm> beuno: it'd be nice..... /wistful
[22:42] <beuno> Ursinha, you're ps is growing fast from ps2 to ps3!
[22:43] <Ursinha> ohhh
[22:43] <Ursinha> sorry
[22:43] <spm> inflation
[22:43] <Ursinha> ps2
[22:43] <Ursinha> :)
[22:43] <beuno> spm, I don't quite understand how the shifting would work. Even as a joke  :)
[22:44] <spm> beuno: I've restarted codebounce... errrr codebrowse! once this break (xmas day - I was too full from lunch to move so figured I'd restart it); vs once every day or so. :-)
[22:44] <spm> So if we shift all the year into the break period; ergo no more restarts! problem solved. ;-D
[22:45] <beuno> we need everyone to be on vacation and not looking at branches
[22:45] <beuno> I'll start looking into how we can do that
[22:45] <spm> ha!
[22:48] <spm> beuno: it occours - if you make loggerhead chnage to using *realy* horrible - mind melting - colours, we could achieve a similar result?
[22:50] <beuno> spm, we could turn LH into a wizard, and you'd have to click "next" for each line of code you wanted
[22:50] <beuno> that way we can be *really* sure the user wants what he's lookin at!
[22:51] <spm> I have tears of laughter running down my face at this point. beuno take 15 points for that display of evilness.
[22:52] <beuno> :)
[23:24] <wgrant> Aha. Life!
[23:25] <Nafallo> wgrant: you're not on jabber. so no, not alive yet :-P
[23:26] <wgrant> Nafallo: Blah.
[23:26] <Nafallo> haha
[23:36] <asabil> spm: what kind of information do you need for finalizing the "question" ?
[23:37] <asabil> you changed the status of the question to "Needs information"