| bdmurray | james_w: that person really did have a package for me | 00:41 |
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| james_w | wow | 00:42 |
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| thekorn | hmm, is wiki.ubuntu.com slow/down for anybody else, or is it just me? | 12:28 |
| jpds | thekorn: Fails with a Squid error here. | 12:29 |
| thekorn | right, same here | 12:30 |
| jpds | thekorn: Might want to tell #canonical-sysadmin - but I think that they're on holiday. | 12:33 |
| thekorn | jpds, ok, it magically works again now, | 12:37 |
| jpds | thekorn: GReat. | 12:37 |
| jpds | great* | 12:37 |
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| skorasaurus | hi, I accidentally created a new 'project' in launchpad. https://bugs.launchpad.net/easytag | 15:29 |
| skorasaurus | I was triaging a bug for easytag, and I looked back on it today, and saw that was created page was created. I don't know if that should have been created. | 15:29 |
| skorasaurus | because there's also this page - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/easytag | 15:30 |
| thekorn | skorasaurus, I think it is all right, you "created" this project when you linked this bug to the sf bug tracker | 15:31 |
| skorasaurus | thekorn, okay, thank you. | 15:32 |
| skorasaurus | i have a question: why does the status of a bug on launchpad not correspond with the upstream status ? For example, https://bugs.launchpad.net/brasero/+bug/187657 | 15:43 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 187657 in brasero "Uses beagle, not tracker" [Undecided,New] | 15:43 |
| Ryan52 | because upstream and ubuntu don't always agree? it may be more important to one than another? | 15:44 |
| skorasaurus | on the upstream (gnome's bugzilla), it is marked [unconfirmed, normal] | 15:44 |
| charlie-tca | skorasaurus: the bug is triaged for Ubuntu, not for upstream. | 15:55 |
| charlie-tca | Sometimes it takes a while for upstream status to catch up on launchpad | 15:56 |
| skorasaurus | k | 16:01 |
| hggdh | skorasaurus, upstream status depend on upstream work. A triaged bug on LP will still need to be confirmed upstream | 17:50 |
| hggdh | these are completely separated BTSs; it may be that upstream has some other requirements before confirming, it may be a dup, etc | 17:51 |
| persia | There are also many cases where a bug is fixed upstream, but still present in Ubuntu, or vice-versa. | 17:54 |
| hggdh | BTW, 'BTS' means Bug Tracking System | 17:58 |
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| Rocket2DMn | ok guys, im finishing triage on bug 308978 but i cant decide if its xorg or linux | 22:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 308978 in xorg "Alternate keyboard layout doesn't works after a suspend" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/308978 | 22:30 |
| Rocket2DMn | or even hal i suppose | 22:30 |
| charlie-tca_ | Suspend to ram is acpi-support, isn't it? Otherwise, it is linux, since it happens after suspend | 22:34 |
| Rocket2DMn | its like a nightmarish mix of all of the above | 22:34 |
| Rocket2DMn | a usb device that works before suspend, but not after | 22:34 |
| Rocket2DMn | well it sorta works, just doesnt recognize the language i guess | 22:35 |
| Rocket2DMn | I guess I should ask if it works after the user restarts X after a resume | 22:35 |
| Rocket2DMn | if it doesnt, then its not a X problem | 22:36 |
| charlie-tca_ | Is it hibernate being called suspend? If so, it is linux | 22:38 |
| charlie-tca_ | as in the kernel team works that | 22:38 |
| Rocket2DMn | its not hibernate, its suspend to ram | 22:38 |
| Rocket2DMn | (standby) | 22:38 |
| Rocket2DMn | thats initially why i set the bug to xorg instead of linux | 22:39 |
| charlie-tca_ | That should be acpi-support then | 22:48 |
| charlie-tca_ | acpi-support is the package for suspend to ram bugs | 22:48 |
| Rocket2DMn | ok thanks charlie-tca_ | 23:09 |
| crimsun | err, that's not entirely correct. we need to update it. | 23:12 |
| crimsun | acpi-support and pm-utils are scripts. if it's a kernel problem, the source package affected needs to be linux. | 23:13 |
| crimsun | if we're failing to twiddle something in the scripts, however, yes, either acpi-support (old) and/or pm-utils (new). | 23:13 |
| crimsun | (the situation becomes even more hairy when one considers hal-info) | 23:15 |
| Rocket2DMn | crimsun, the thought had crossed my mind with hal | 23:16 |
| Rocket2DMn | have a look at bug 308978 and let me know what package you think is appropriate | 23:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 308978 in xorg "Alternate keyboard layout doesn't works after a suspend" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/308978 | 23:17 |
| Rocket2DMn | the problem with the usb kb only appears after a suspend/resume | 23:17 |
| crimsun | it's a linux bug. | 23:19 |
| crimsun | nothing in acpi-support, pm-utils, or hal-info twiddles keyboard locales [because there's no such functionality there] | 23:19 |
| crimsun | also, note that the reporter's laptop keyboard works fine | 23:20 |
| crimsun | the symptom is only reproducible using a usb keyboard _post_-resume-from-* | 23:21 |
| crimsun | the other possibility is that there's a bios issue; perhaps ask the reporter if he's running the appropriate (latest?) bios | 23:21 |
| LimCore | hi.. kmail crashes ALWAYS when downloading.. how epic is that lol :/ | 23:25 |
| crimsun | it's known | 23:25 |
| LimCore | the one in 8.10 right? oh meh.. :/ | 23:26 |
| LimCore | how to have a version that does NOT crash now then? im on 8.10 | 23:26 |
| joumetal | does bug 312554 have enough information? | 23:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 312554 in linux "bug: int 14 cr2... booting 2.6.28-4-generic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/312554 | 23:27 |
| crimsun | LimCore: i really have no idea; most mail clients really frustrate me. i tend to use mutt or some smartphone. | 23:28 |
| LimCore | btw... why we do not have an OBVIOUS field like ubuntu version and app version in the bug tracker? | 23:29 |
| LimCore | like.. [ubuntu 8.10] [amd64] [kmail 4.2.1-...] etc. most can be auto-filled from user agent | 23:29 |
| crimsun | LimCore: well, apport does include that. it's a question worth posing on ubuntu-devel-discuss | 23:30 |
| charlie-tca_ | joumetal: the video card from lspci perhaps? Also, what version of ubuntu? | 23:31 |
| crimsun | joumetal: if that's as much of the trace as you can capture, then unfortunately, yes | 23:31 |
| crimsun | joumetal: it'd be better if you could grab the entire kernel ring buffer up to that point, perhaps via serial console | 23:31 |
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