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Fri13Hi, is this correct maintenance schedule for 8.04 LTS12:42
Fri133312:42
Fri13June 5th12:42
Fri13https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule12:42
HobbseeFri13: those dates look to be tentative, for that schedule12:43
Fri13Hobbsee: I am trying to find information about point releases, are those really planned so tight or will those be rolled out when needed?12:44
ograplanned12:44
Fri13ogra: So the real reason for the 8.04.1 was not actually the OpenSSL bug what I have heard?12:45
ograat least the ones without TBC12:45
ograthe ssl bug was a security fix that was rooled out way earlier on security.u.c12:45
ogra*rolled12:45
Fri13ogra: What does that TBC mean?12:47
ograunless the world ends or all ubuntu devs die due to a magic online spreading desease the confirmed dates count12:47
ograTBC == to be confirmed12:47
Fri13Ah...12:48
Fri13ogra: So they ain't so exact yet... untill closer time they will be confirmed?12:48
Fri13Is it possible that those would'nt even get released?12:48
ograright, .2 is confirmed12:48
Hobbseeogra: the UDS plague, IRC version?12:48
ograthe others are likely but not written in stone yet12:48
Hobbseecould be a worry...12:49
ograHobbsee, heh, yeah, something like that :)12:49
StevenKHah12:49
StevenKI've heard of a text virus, but that's just terrible12:49
DktrKranzAny sponsor for main willing to review and sponsor bug 293807? Thanks!13:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 293807 in gccxml "gccxml regression: fails to parse stdio.h" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29380713:06
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LaserJockdoes adding users via users-admin really not work on Intrepid? :(17:53
LaserJockI ran into that a while ago and it still seems to be around17:54
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pschorfis anyone here familiar with update-manager's code?18:12
cjwatsonbryce,tjaalton: I'd really appreciate some help on bug 310857, when you can; it's really getting in the way of me using my laptop19:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 310857 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i965] intel driver seems to get stuck in an EDID-fetching loop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31085719:18
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tjaaltoncjwatson: sounds like the same bug that wgrant suffered, downgrading libdrm apparently helped him20:33
tjaalton+from20:33
plippHi guys & gals. Could I get some pointers on module-building?  I've downloaded the source through 'sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-$(uname -r); apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r).21:01
plippCopied the config from /boot and built with "make modules"21:02
plippHowever, I get versioning issues when running them "no symbol version for struct_module"21:02
ScottKYou'd probably have more luck in #ubuntu-kernel.21:03
plippah21:04
plipp*tries*21:05
directhexand unless you have a DAMN good reason (e.g. want to modify the kernel), that's not the way to compile extra modules against your existing kernel21:10
directhexfor that, just use linux-headers-$(uname -r)21:10
plippdirecthex: The reason is to modify an existing module21:11
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plippcrap.. maybe it's "easier" to build the whole kernel..21:22
glatzorpschorf, yes.21:34
pschorfbug 151011 | glatzor21:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 151011 in update-manager "do-release-upgrade does not provide guidance after view details" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15101121:35
pschorfglatzor, as far as I can tell the code in bug 151011 appears to be fixed in the code, but I can't see a way to fix it21:36
ScottKMaybe the bug just never got marked fixed?21:36
pschorfthat's what I think21:37
pschorfI didn't want to mark it, though21:37
ScottKMake an Intrepid pbuilder, login, and then upgrade to Jaunty.  Test if the problem still happens.21:38
glatzorthanks for notcing21:39
glatzorthanks for noticing21:39
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JordiGHIs this official policy? http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/ubuntu-policy/policy.txt22:13
ScottKJordiGH: Yes.22:14
JordiGHAh, ok. It looks almost the same as Debian's. I thought you guys (I work more with Debian) had widely differing policy.22:16
LaserJockJordiGH: it was based on Debian policy and there aren't very many significant differences, policy-wise22:17
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JordiGHRight, the only difference I see at a glance is that you guys just organise the archive differently.22:20
JordiGHNice.22:20
LaserJockwe don't do binary uploads and there a some small licensing differences22:21
nemesishi, how can i revert the change to pm-utils?22:23
JordiGHThanks for the info.22:24
nemesisunder hardy22:25
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nemesisdoes pm-utils support ACPI S1 standby or only S3 and S4?22:29
emgentnhandler: ping22:35
emgentsebner: ping22:35
nemesis.22:35
cjwatsontjaalton: thanks for the reference, I'll chase that up22:36
cjwatsontjaalton: do you know if he filed it?22:36
tjaaltoncjwatson: I've marked yours as a dupe of the original one. it's reported upstream as well22:36
tjaaltonboth pitti and wgrant got bit by it22:37
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jpdshowa: No spam please.22:38
tjaaltoncjwatson: marked as a blocker for xorg-server 1.622:39
emgentbye howa22:39
cjwatsontjaalton: ok, so I just downgrade libxrandr2 then? thanks22:40
tjaaltoncjwatson: yes, that should help22:41
cjwatsonhmm, bugger, world depends on that22:42
* cjwatson downgrades bits of world22:42
tjaaltonwhat bits?22:42
tjaaltonthat could get ugly, if xserver depended on it..22:43
cjwatsoncompiz-core compiz-fusion-plugins-main gnome-settings-daemon libgcj9-0-awt libgnome-desktop-2-11 libqtgui4 totem-gstreamer Depends: libxrandr2 (>= 2:1.2.99.2)22:43
cjwatsoncurrent shlibs I assume22:43
tjaaltonoh22:43
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mluser-workAnyone know if atheros wifi support has been dropped in jaunty?23:03
crimsunmluser-work: no, that would constitute an enormous regression.23:11
mluser-workcrimsun: Its probably a problem with the 2.6.28 kernel then.. I just rebooted into my 2.6.27 kernel and all works fine now23:12
mluser-workIf anyone is interested, this is the lspci entry for my wifi card which is not working with the 2.6.28-4 kernel, but working  fine with the 2.6.27-9 kernel from intrepid23:16
mluser-work02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)23:16
mluser-work02:02.0 0200: 168c:0013 (rev 01)23:17
wgrantcjwatson: I'm running fully updated everything except xserver and libxrandr2 - I just reupgrade libxrandr2 before I install updates and then downgrade it again afterwards; nothing uses the new symbols, so it still works fine.23:18
cjwatsonwgrant: ah, maybe I'll just copy the old library into place then to avoid apt pain23:19
cjwatsonwgrant: why the old xserver?23:19
wgrantcjwatson: Because I ran into another bug with it.23:20
wgrantI think it was crashing on some xrandr calls.23:20
wgrantI think it has been fixed upstream, and I was waiting for the post-alpha2 server-1.6-branch pull to try again.23:21
tjaaltonwgrant: there hasn't been one :)23:36
tjaaltonnot much happening upstream either23:37
wgranttjaalton: I know, that's why I haven't tried again yet.23:38
wgrantThere are a few changes upstream that we don't have.23:38
wgrantI might pull them in locally and see if things improve.23:38
tjaaltongood23:41
cjwatsonforcing XRRGetCrtcTransform to think it's talking to a pre-1.3 server seems to help so far ...23:42
cjwatsonso I guess it's the RRGetCrtcTransform request?23:42
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