[00:40] Hi [00:44] !ops [00:45] Help! bhale, infinity, Hobbsee, jdub, thom, fooishbar, fabbione, mdz, lamont, or Keybuk [03:02] Huginissa on mielenkiintoinen, taiteellinen uusi projektio erittäin laajakulmaisille kuville: http://www.flickr.com/groups/vedutismo/ [03:02] Sorry, wrong channel. === mib_ujpfv5yy is now known as Juntai [06:16] Sup === Tweenaks is now known as Treenaks === Guest89320 is now known as Zic === jussio1 is now known as jussi01 === asac_ is now known as asac === Igorots is now known as Igorot === hortont424 is now known as hortont424|away === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson [12:42] Hi, is this correct maintenance schedule for 8.04 LTS [12:42] 33 [12:42] June 5th [12:42] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule [12:43] Fri13: those dates look to be tentative, for that schedule [12:44] Hobbsee: I am trying to find information about point releases, are those really planned so tight or will those be rolled out when needed? [12:44] planned [12:45] ogra: So the real reason for the 8.04.1 was not actually the OpenSSL bug what I have heard? [12:45] at least the ones without TBC [12:45] the ssl bug was a security fix that was rooled out way earlier on security.u.c [12:45] *rolled [12:47] ogra: What does that TBC mean? [12:47] unless the world ends or all ubuntu devs die due to a magic online spreading desease the confirmed dates count [12:47] TBC == to be confirmed [12:48] Ah... [12:48] ogra: So they ain't so exact yet... untill closer time they will be confirmed? [12:48] Is it possible that those would'nt even get released? [12:48] right, .2 is confirmed [12:48] ogra: the UDS plague, IRC version? [12:48] the others are likely but not written in stone yet [12:49] could be a worry... [12:49] Hobbsee, heh, yeah, something like that :) [12:49] Hah [12:49] I've heard of a text virus, but that's just terrible [13:06] Any sponsor for main willing to review and sponsor bug 293807? Thanks! [13:06] Launchpad bug 293807 in gccxml "gccxml regression: fails to parse stdio.h" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/293807 === bddebian2 is now known as bddebian === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson === warp10_ is now known as warp10 === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson [17:53] does adding users via users-admin really not work on Intrepid? :( [17:54] I ran into that a while ago and it still seems to be around === jussio1 is now known as jussi01 [18:12] is anyone here familiar with update-manager's code? [19:18] bryce,tjaalton: I'd really appreciate some help on bug 310857, when you can; it's really getting in the way of me using my laptop [19:18] Launchpad bug 310857 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i965] intel driver seems to get stuck in an EDID-fetching loop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/310857 === pgraner_ is now known as pgraner [20:33] cjwatson: sounds like the same bug that wgrant suffered, downgrading libdrm apparently helped him [20:33] +from [21:01] Hi guys & gals. Could I get some pointers on module-building? I've downloaded the source through 'sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-$(uname -r); apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r). [21:02] Copied the config from /boot and built with "make modules" [21:02] However, I get versioning issues when running them "no symbol version for struct_module" [21:03] You'd probably have more luck in #ubuntu-kernel. [21:04] ah [21:05] *tries* [21:10] and unless you have a DAMN good reason (e.g. want to modify the kernel), that's not the way to compile extra modules against your existing kernel [21:10] for that, just use linux-headers-$(uname -r) [21:11] directhex: The reason is to modify an existing module === Michiel is now known as Guest81991 === Guest81991 is now known as Eghie_ [21:22] crap.. maybe it's "easier" to build the whole kernel.. [21:34] pschorf, yes. [21:35] bug 151011 | glatzor [21:35] Launchpad bug 151011 in update-manager "do-release-upgrade does not provide guidance after view details" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151011 [21:36] glatzor, as far as I can tell the code in bug 151011 appears to be fixed in the code, but I can't see a way to fix it [21:36] Maybe the bug just never got marked fixed? [21:37] that's what I think [21:37] I didn't want to mark it, though [21:38] Make an Intrepid pbuilder, login, and then upgrade to Jaunty. Test if the problem still happens. [21:39] thanks for notcing [21:39] thanks for noticing === hortont424|away is now known as hortont424 [22:13] Is this official policy? http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/ubuntu-policy/policy.txt [22:14] JordiGH: Yes. [22:16] Ah, ok. It looks almost the same as Debian's. I thought you guys (I work more with Debian) had widely differing policy. [22:17] JordiGH: it was based on Debian policy and there aren't very many significant differences, policy-wise === JordiGH2 is now known as JordiGH [22:20] Right, the only difference I see at a glance is that you guys just organise the archive differently. [22:20] Nice. [22:21] we don't do binary uploads and there a some small licensing differences [22:23] hi, how can i revert the change to pm-utils? [22:24] Thanks for the info. [22:25] under hardy === spm_ is now known as spm [22:29] does pm-utils support ACPI S1 standby or only S3 and S4? [22:35] nhandler: ping [22:35] sebner: ping [22:35] . [22:36] tjaalton: thanks for the reference, I'll chase that up [22:36] tjaalton: do you know if he filed it? [22:36] cjwatson: I've marked yours as a dupe of the original one. it's reported upstream as well [22:37] both pitti and wgrant got bit by it [22:37] rate my new site !! http://www.hardstylersunited.dk/ [22:38] howa: No spam please. [22:39] cjwatson: marked as a blocker for xorg-server 1.6 [22:39] bye howa [22:40] tjaalton: ok, so I just downgrade libxrandr2 then? thanks [22:41] cjwatson: yes, that should help [22:42] hmm, bugger, world depends on that [22:42] * cjwatson downgrades bits of world [22:42] what bits? [22:43] that could get ugly, if xserver depended on it.. [22:43] compiz-core compiz-fusion-plugins-main gnome-settings-daemon libgcj9-0-awt libgnome-desktop-2-11 libqtgui4 totem-gstreamer Depends: libxrandr2 (>= 2:1.2.99.2) [22:43] current shlibs I assume [22:43] oh === ScottK-desktop is now known as ScottK3 [23:03] Anyone know if atheros wifi support has been dropped in jaunty? [23:11] mluser-work: no, that would constitute an enormous regression. [23:12] crimsun: Its probably a problem with the 2.6.28 kernel then.. I just rebooted into my 2.6.27 kernel and all works fine now [23:16] If anyone is interested, this is the lspci entry for my wifi card which is not working with the 2.6.28-4 kernel, but working fine with the 2.6.27-9 kernel from intrepid [23:16] 02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) [23:17] 02:02.0 0200: 168c:0013 (rev 01) [23:18] cjwatson: I'm running fully updated everything except xserver and libxrandr2 - I just reupgrade libxrandr2 before I install updates and then downgrade it again afterwards; nothing uses the new symbols, so it still works fine. [23:19] wgrant: ah, maybe I'll just copy the old library into place then to avoid apt pain [23:19] wgrant: why the old xserver? [23:20] cjwatson: Because I ran into another bug with it. [23:20] I think it was crashing on some xrandr calls. [23:21] I think it has been fixed upstream, and I was waiting for the post-alpha2 server-1.6-branch pull to try again. [23:36] wgrant: there hasn't been one :) [23:37] not much happening upstream either [23:38] tjaalton: I know, that's why I haven't tried again yet. [23:38] There are a few changes upstream that we don't have. [23:38] I might pull them in locally and see if things improve. [23:41] good [23:42] forcing XRRGetCrtcTransform to think it's talking to a pre-1.3 server seems to help so far ... [23:42] so I guess it's the RRGetCrtcTransform request? === emgent is now known as emgent` === emgent` is now known as emgent`e === emgent`e is now known as emgent