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[03:09] <Hal_Emmerich> yo
[03:09] <Hal_Emmerich> Question
[03:12] <Hal_Emmerich> Can anyone think of a reason why a computer with Mythbuntu could connect as far as a router config page, but not to the internet, despite other computers on the network being able to connect?
[03:39] <tgm4883_laptop> Hal_Emmerich, DNS Servers
[03:39] <Hal_Emmerich> kk, I tried pinging google via its IP, but I got 100% loss
[03:39] <Hal_Emmerich> But it'll ping the router config page fine
[03:40] <tgm4883_laptop> static IP or DHCP?
[03:40] <Hal_Emmerich> DHCP
[03:41] <tgm4883_laptop> interesting
[03:42] <tgm4883_laptop> I had a problem once with nic drivers that were too new giving me problems
[03:42] <tgm4883_laptop> not sure if thats your issue or not
[03:43] <tgm4883_laptop> also, might be worth checking your cabling
[03:43] <Hal_Emmerich> I couldn't see it being the issue. It connects to the router fine
[03:43] <Hal_Emmerich> It just absolutely will not connect to things outside the network
[03:43] <tgm4883_laptop> it's not a trendnet nic is it?
[03:43] <Hal_Emmerich> 3com
[03:44] <tgm4883_laptop> gigabit?
[03:44] <Hal_Emmerich> I don't think so
[03:44] <Hal_Emmerich> 10/100
[03:44] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[03:44] <tgm4883_laptop> sounds fine
[03:46] <tgm4883_laptop> I don't know the problem then, if it's getting the IP address, gateway and DNS servers it should be fine
[03:47] <Hal_Emmerich> I don't know if its getting DNS server
[03:47] <Hal_Emmerich> But it shouldn't matter
[03:47] <Hal_Emmerich> it can't even ping IP's outside of the local network
[03:47] <tgm4883_laptop> you don't have filtering on your router do yoU?
[04:25] <Hal_Emmerich> Yes I did
[04:26] <Hal_Emmerich> problem solved there, but it lead to another one
[04:26] <Hal_Emmerich> Basically, the sound works until I fool with -something-, and then the sound stops working
[04:26] <Hal_Emmerich> and the only solution I've found to fix the sound once it goes is reinstall
[04:26] <Hal_Emmerich> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f59a984e
[04:26] <Hal_Emmerich> Theres the logs
[12:17] <styelz> hello, i've just installed mythbuntu 8.10 and cannot get the harvester to work on standard websites in mythstream.. anyne got any pointers ?
[12:19] <styelz> did an apt-get update/upgrade
[13:08] <styelz> ill be here for the rest of the year
[13:09] <Yagisan> we all will
[13:10]  * Yagisan can't help - he's waiting on the new parts he ordered to build his first myth box to be delivered
[13:31] <laga> i'm pondering a new myth box as well..
[13:32] <laga> i do want an antec fusion
[13:44] <MythbuntuGuest55> Ola
[13:45] <MythbuntuGuest55> Comme est as
[13:48] <laga> you have an .nl host..
[13:48] <MythbuntuGuest55> I've got a question. I'd like to buy hardware to start using Mythbuntu, I am looking at the "Acer Aspire 5100 TV", I want to make sure that Mythbuntu runs on this mini PC. I burned a mythbuntu Live CD 8.04, but have no clue how I can check that it works with the 5100 TV?? Do you know how to check it (I do run xubuntu)
[13:48] <MythbuntuGuest55> Si
[13:49] <laga> no clue about that aspire. just try booting it and see if it recognizes the TV card and everything?
[13:50] <laga> of course, it'd be better if you could install mythbuntu
[13:50] <MythbuntuGuest55> Where would I be able to see that?
[13:50] <laga> um.. good question. i'm not sure if the mythbuntu live disk comes with a tool to test that..
[13:57] <MythbuntuGuest55> You can have a look at the specs here: http://global.acer.com/products/desktop/asl5100.htm, looks like a neat little machine for MythTV
[13:57] <MythbuntuGuest55> (Low on power consumption)'
[13:58] <laga> there's nicer stuff for the living room *shrug*
[13:59] <MythbuntuGuest55> Thanks for your response laga, how would one normally if it recognizes the TV card and everything?
[13:59] <MythbuntuGuest55> see
[13:59] <laga> you can try to find out which tv card it's using
[13:59] <laga> and google that
[14:20] <MythbuntuGuest55> Hmmm, the specs seem to change over time and are inonclusive. I found: Avermedia TVtuner M115
[14:20] <styelz> i did some more poking on my mythbuntu install and found that all web related tasks fail.. like RSS news and mythstream harvester. mythweather works and i can play streams from mythstream
[14:21] <styelz> its like its missing a web browser of sorts.. i dont know :(
[14:26] <MythbuntuGuest55> Does anybody else know how to find out if MythBuntu likes the TV Card from the Live CD?
[14:35] <styelz> type dmesg |grep "card="
[14:36] <styelz> or cat /var/log/dmesg |grep "card="
[14:37] <styelz> if it doesnt autodetect your card type. i usually specify that in /etc/modules.d/options  and also make sure your card is loaded via /etc/modules
[14:38] <styelz> that was /etc/modprobe.d/options too
[14:38] <styelz> for one of my cards i have . options saa7134 card=99  .. to make it work right
[14:40] <styelz> wouldnt work on live i guess
[14:41] <styelz> if it helps.. when my card is detected. i see
[14:41] <styelz> [   13.452763] saa7133[0]: subsystem: 1461:2c00, board: AVerMedia TV Hybrid A16AR [card=99,insmod option]
[14:41] <styelz> in dmesg
[14:41] <styelz> and one that auto detects correctly
[14:41] <styelz> [   12.469666] cx88[0]: subsystem: 107d:6f2b, board: WinFast DTV2000 H ver. J (new) [card=68,autodetected]
[15:20] <styelz> i get this error when i run shoutcast.pl ... Can't call method "get_tag" on an undefined value at ./shoutcast.pl line 48.
[15:54] <styelz> hm its working now
[15:56] <styelz> i had a typo in my /etc/resolv.conf  .. g'damnit
[17:05] <Hal_Emmerich> Question: does anyone see anything in this that would cause audio to stop working, and any solution
[17:05] <Hal_Emmerich>  http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f59a984e
[17:17] <MythbuntuGuest55> thanks styelz
[19:02] <MythbuntuGuest41> hello ive been having  a recurring problem with my mythbuntu system. this is about the third or fourth time having to reinstall mythbuntu due to my inability to diagnose this problem or rectify it. here goes my installation puts the root filesystem on a 10gb partition and my home on a 160gb partition which i figured would be more than adequate. after each installation everything will work great for about a week and then un
[19:03] <jphillip> MythbuntuGuest41 putting recordings in your home directory is a bad idea
[19:03] <jphillip> might want to continue stating your problem though
[19:06] <MythbuntuGuest41> okay pretty much everything will work fine for a period of about a week and then out of the blue i will start my frontend and it asks what language to use and then states no upnp found and cannot login to database
[19:07] <MythbuntuGuest41> afterward i go to backend setup and get basically teh same error messages
[19:08] <MythbuntuGuest41> i then open /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt to check all the settings that i should reinput back into the backend setupp and to my surprise this file is empty
[19:08] <MythbuntuGuest41> as is /home/.mythtv/mysql.txt
[19:16] <jphillip> is your root directory full?
[19:17] <jphillip> if that fills up that can cause mysql to crash which would result in possibly losing those settings
[19:19] <Paladine> anyone got a link on how to throw mythbuntu onto a USB stick in order to install it on a machine with no optical drive?
[19:21]  * Paladine is in the process of building a 12V 800mA 12W silent mythtv backend
[19:22] <MythbuntuGuest41> thank you jphillip i think thats my prob
[19:23] <MythbuntuGuest41> i never switched my recordings to the home folder so the 10gb partition quickly filled up and it looks to be full
[19:24] <MythbuntuGuest41> are you aware of any way to fix this without  a fresh reinstall where use the entire harddrive and wipe out my other partitions?
[19:26] <jphillip> MythbuntuGuest41 I would modify the drive so you have a good portion dedicated just for them
[19:26] <jphillip> like I said before having them in your home is a bad idea
[19:26] <MythbuntuGuest41> im just beyond happy to have an answer as to where everything is going wrong becaause this was about my 4th try and i was aout to give up
[19:26] <jphillip> can run into all sorts of permissions issues
[19:26] <jphillip> from there you should be able to just resetup everything
[19:27] <MythbuntuGuest41> cool man i appreciate the help
[19:27] <jphillip> might need to sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common to regenerate a new mysql password
[19:27] <jphillip> that is if you don't recall the old one
[19:27] <MythbuntuGuest41> youve saved me hours of grief
[19:27] <jphillip> MythbuntuGuest41 http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Backup_your_database
[19:28] <jphillip> might want to poke at that, make a backup when everything is all setup so you have an easier restore point
[19:28] <Paladine> jphillip, you got a link on how to install mythbuntu from a thumb drive?
[19:28] <MythbuntuGuest41> awesome thank you soo much
[19:29] <jphillip> Paladine I'd try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[19:30] <jphillip> np MythbuntuGuest41
[19:30] <Paladine> thanks j, my thin client has no optical drive
[19:32] <Paladine> I hope this experiment works
[19:32] <Paladine> I am pretty confident the CPU can handle it
[19:34] <jphillip> Paladine I use that method for my eee, but never tried with mythbuntu
[19:34] <jphillip> might want to look at some of the mythbuntu diskless options as well
[19:36] <Paladine> jphillip, I am turning an HP T5700 Thin Client into a Myth Backend :)
[19:36] <Paladine> very cheap, quiet, small footprint and power efficient setup if I manage to pull it off
[19:37] <jphillip> Paladine good luck
[19:37] <jphillip> what kind of cpu does it have?
[19:37] <Paladine> j, 1GHz Crusoe
[19:37] <Paladine> 1GB PC2100 RAM
[19:37] <Paladine> 250GB 2.5" IDE Drive
[19:38] <jphillip> not planning on doing HD on it are you?
[19:38] <Paladine> and PVR250
[19:38] <Paladine> nope
[19:38] <jphillip> what kind of vide card does it have?
[19:38] <jphillip> video
[19:38] <Paladine> it won't be used for front end so video card doesn't matter
[19:38] <Paladine> but it is an 8MB ATI Rage iirc
[19:38] <jphillip> ah
[19:38] <jphillip> seems like a better frontend than a backend :)
[19:39] <Paladine> but it has built in mpeg4 capabilities in the CPU
[19:39] <Paladine> or tather the chipset
[19:39] <Paladine> rather
[19:39] <jphillip> interesting, wonder if those will be available to you in linux
[19:40] <Paladine> well the problem is I am having to go back to windows for my desktop due to some hardware and software I use which is not linux compatible
[19:40] <Paladine> so I can no longer run mythtv on the desktop and wanted a small, cheap and quiet solution
[19:40] <Paladine> I will run the win32 mythfrontend client to watch tv
[19:40] <Paladine> yeah there are linux drivers available
[19:41] <jphillip> Paladine we included a windows player on the last few discs
[19:41] <Paladine> the thin client I have has windows xp embedded onto an IDE flash drive, but it also comes in linux flavour too
[19:41] <jphillip> not a full frontend, but it does recordings, and might even do live tv (I don't remember)
[19:41] <Paladine> I have rippe dout the window flash drive and am putting in the 250GB laptop drive instead
[19:42] <Paladine> I am pretty confident it will work
[19:42] <Paladine> I see some people have built backends out of 266MHz pnetiums in the past
[19:42] <jphillip> Paladine http://www.sudu.dk/mythtvplayer/
[19:43] <jphillip> he gave us a special release that works with 0.21 without having to modify the config though
[19:43] <jphillip> so you might want to try the one on our cd first
[19:43] <Paladine> well I would need to do scheduling too since the thin client will be headless
[19:43] <jphillip> mythweb?
[19:43] <Paladine> valid point
[19:44] <jphillip> heck I use mythweb for most things anyways
[19:44] <jphillip> either way if you do try to get the full frontend working in windows let us know how it works out
[19:44] <Paladine> I know one guy using the same hardware for an asterisk server so it should be able to handle myth without too many problems (asterisk is CPU intensive)
[19:45] <jphillip> last I heard it was a bit of a pain
[19:48] <Paladine> just waiting on the HDD now
[19:48] <Paladine> had to order the PCI expansion module from Canada (I am in the UK)
[19:48] <Paladine> but that arrived today
[19:52] <Paladine> cheap though.  £41 GBP for the thin client, £34 GBP for the PCI expansion module, £16 GBP for the 1GB SODIMM and £56 GBP for the 250GB Laptop Drive (all including shipping)
[19:53] <Paladine> I already have the pvr250 but I suppose it should be added the cost
[19:53] <Paladine> so about £200 GBP all in
[19:55] <Paladine> I could potentially run frontend on it as well but I am concerned how well it will handle playback and recording at the same time
[19:55] <Paladine> theoretically it should work
[19:55] <Paladine> and I will give it a go once it is setup
[19:55] <jphillip> you should document that on the mythtv wiki or something when you are done
[19:56] <Paladine> yeah I will do
[19:58] <Paladine> the entire system could cost as little as 130 GBP if you can get hold of the client and the expansion module from the same place in the UK (or your own country where appropriate)
[19:58] <Paladine> the shipping from canada wasn't cheap for the pci expansion
[19:58] <Paladine> and I paid over the odds for the thin client, you can get them for as little as £25 GBP
[19:58] <Paladine> but it was an impulse buy :)
[20:00] <Paladine> the most expensive parts are the HDD and the TV Card
[20:03] <jphillip> Paladine wait till you get into HDTV, things get expensive in a hurry
[20:03] <Paladine> it wouldn't be suitable for HDTV
[20:03] <Paladine> although a mini itx solution should be viable for HDTV
[20:37] <hads> With a little difficulty
[20:37] <Paladine> the atom should be able to handle hdtv
[20:37] <hads> Huh? You mean recording or playback?
[20:38]  * jphillip is waiting for an atom with nvidia graphics
[20:38] <Paladine> playback
[20:38] <Paladine> recording should be handled by your hdtv card
[20:38] <hads> With VPPAU you should be alright, without you wouldn't.
[20:39] <jphillip> hads I wonder how well a dual core atom would do
[20:39] <hads> Still far to slow for CPU based playback
[20:40] <jphillip> as far as I can tell the atom in my eee can playback HD on the smaller res, but I seem to have a network bottleneck with it
[22:00] <Hal_Emmerich> Question: does anyone see anything in this that would cause audio to stop working, and any solution
[22:00] <Hal_Emmerich>  http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f59a984e
[22:03] <encmonkey> Hi!  Anyone happen to know what the default keybinding is for getting the DVD root menu with the internal player?  I can't find anything for that anywhere.
[22:04] <tgm4883_laptop> M?
[22:04] <encmonkey> hrm..  Lemme try that again here
[22:05] <encmonkey> weird.  that didn't work a few attempts ago :)  Thanks!
[22:05] <tgm4883_laptop> np
[22:24] <htpc> how can I uninstall / deactivate the mythbuntu start up script
[22:24] <htpc> s
[23:11] <MythbuntuGuest38> I have a really easy question, where can I find the docs on the video player plugin, specificly how the metdata is downloaded for a divx video for example
[23:13] <MythbuntuGuest95> Oops I was just in here as guest38
[23:14] <Hal_Emmerich> Question: does anyone see anything in this that would cause audio to stop working, and any solution
[23:14] <Hal_Emmerich>  http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f59a984e
[23:22] <foxbuntu> Hal_Emmerich, audio to stop working when?
[23:22] <Hal_Emmerich> Basically
[23:23] <Hal_Emmerich> If I install Mythbuntu, audio works
[23:23] <Hal_Emmerich> Like, if I open a movie, audio will play
[23:23] <Hal_Emmerich> But something I'm doing seems to be consistently breaking the audio
[23:23] <Hal_Emmerich> as in the audio will not play when a movie opens
[23:24] <Hal_Emmerich> Reinstalling Mythbuntu fixes it, so I know its software
[23:24] <foxbuntu> when does it stop working
[23:24] <Hal_Emmerich> As far as I can tell, its some setting I'm changing when I was trying to get networking to work
[23:24] <Hal_Emmerich> The only things I did would have been
[23:25] <Hal_Emmerich> 'A: Enable permissions on the admin user to play audio, browse the internet' via the User Control panel
[23:25] <Hal_Emmerich> 'B: Add a 'Wired' network'
[23:26] <Hal_Emmerich> 'C: Open Mythbuntu control panel and peruse it'
[23:26] <Hal_Emmerich> I know the sound card, its an Ensoniq Audio-PCI
[23:27] <foxbuntu> whyare you setting root to use sound?
[23:27] <Hal_Emmerich> Not Root
[23:27] <Hal_Emmerich> I didn't change anything for root
[23:27] <Hal_Emmerich> I was changing the default user ('Craig' in my case)
[23:27] <foxbuntu> ok
[23:28] <foxbuntu> thats not an admin user then
[23:28] <foxbuntu> its a suder
[23:28] <foxbuntu> er
[23:28] <foxbuntu> sudoer
[23:28] <Hal_Emmerich> ok
[23:28] <foxbuntu> ...at any rate...you shouldnt need to change any permissions for sound to work
[23:29] <Hal_Emmerich> Right, but the changing permissions was an offshoot of trying to get the internet to work
[23:29] <Hal_Emmerich> lol
[23:29] <Hal_Emmerich> Its strange, because it -was- working
[23:30] <foxbuntu> you prob messed up permissions
[23:33] <foxbuntu> use network manager to setup networking
[23:33] <Hal_Emmerich> Right
[23:33] <Hal_Emmerich> But there was no checkmark beside, say 'Allow user to browse the internet'
[23:33] <Hal_Emmerich> or 'Allow user to play Sounds'
[23:36] <foxbuntu> did you create a seperate user from the one you added in the installer?