[00:26] <zsquareplusc> we don't have any floodbots as ops in #ubuntu. on purpose?
[00:26] <Pici> zsquareplusc: We're looking into it.
[00:43] <batman76> ubuntu sucks
[00:44] <batman76> efnet is god
[00:45] <batman76> hahaha
[00:45] <Pici> Thanks.
[00:46] <elkbuntu> haha
[00:46] <elkbuntu> let me guess, he hit more than just our channels...
[00:47] <Pici> Either that or someone is lurking...
[00:47] <elkbuntu> Pici, i think you'll find the lack of op'd floodbots is split related btw
[00:47] <elkbuntu> i could be wrong though
[00:47] <Pici> elkbuntu: Indeed. I re-opped the one that was affected, no one has flood since though.
[00:48] <elkbuntu> s/is/was/
[00:50] <elkbuntu> zsquareplusc, as you can see above, we often get hit by trolls and so forth. It's one of the reasons we keep this channel free from regular users idling here. less attention for them, and easier for us to spot a lurking pain. You're able to return if you have another issue, but we request you /part now, thanks :)
[00:54] <elkbuntu> btw, the users seem to love the floodbots as much as we do. someone piped up in -irc at the same time
[01:06] <Flannel> ubottu: give nbeebo coc
[01:06] <Flannel> oops
[01:06] <Flannel> ubottu: tell nbeebo about coc
[01:17] <elkbuntu> an interesting thought though. users pretty much no longer bother calling the !paste factoid on flooders. maybe we should investigate a bad words list and maybe it'll train them to not jump on people with !ohmy
[01:18] <Flannel> I can't imagine thats the best course of action
[01:18] <Flannel> also, all of the possible permutations, etc.
[01:20] <nalioth> etc
[01:22] <elkbuntu> best course is something other than someone saying 'shit' and having 10 people !ohmy
[01:22] <Flannel> ubottu already has repeat factoid control
[01:27] <elkbuntu> Flannel, that doesnt stop 10 lines of <person1> !ohmy <person2> !ohmy <person3> !ohmy
[01:27] <Flannel> elkbuntu: And I don't think ubottu automatically saying it will either.
[01:28] <Flannel> Since the people doing the parroting are likely not paying attention
[01:28] <elkbuntu> Flannel, people used to do that for !paste. they dont anymore because floodbot does it
[01:29] <Flannel> I still think there are better ways to solving the issue.  Technical issues to social problems generally don't work.
[01:29] <nalioth> i think word censoring is a whole different kettle of fish than flood control
[01:29] <elkbuntu> Flannel, lynchmobs are not a good solution to social problems either. that's what we have currently
[01:30] <Flannel> I hardly think an occassional factoid burst (with only one, maybe two replies) is a lynch mob.  Or a large problem, to be honest.
[01:31] <Flannel> two would be an !ohmy and a !ohmy | person
[01:32] <elkbuntu> Flannel, the person on the receiving end often goes defensive, panics, or outright gives up on the channel.
[01:32] <Flannel> elkbuntu: And a bot reprimanding the person would go over better how?
[01:32] <elkbuntu> also, the initial flood still gets a trickle of !ohmy a few mins later
[01:33] <Flannel> Thats a separate issue, and one we can work on by messaging the people who are tardy about paying attention.
[01:33] <Flannel> Those same people wouldn't likely notice that ubottu automatically replied
[01:34] <elkbuntu> Flannel, those same people would soon learn how it works. there's very very very few stray !paste calls these days
[01:34] <elkbuntu> !paste used to be how !ohmy currently still is
[01:34] <elkbuntu> dont worry ubottu, we know you're not.
[01:35] <Flannel> I still think its a horrible idea.  It'll cause way more trouble than its worth.  And you'll still get people who reply, because there will always be things that arent automatically responded to.
[01:35] <Flannel> Heck, trouble makers will make a point about figuring out which ones *arent* responded to, etc.
[01:35] <elkbuntu> and as they find them, we add them to the list
[01:36] <Flannel> "How do we stop people from getting pounced on" has better solutions than "write it into the bot"
[01:36] <elkbuntu> right, then by all means, solve it in another way. it was 'just a thought'
 an interesting thought though  <-- that's how i started this discussion off...
[01:37] <nalioth> thoughts are good
[04:54]  * nickrud avoids thinking where possible, it avoids getting pounced
[08:12] <elkbuntu> nickrud, in the case of offtopicers, they take that to a stupid extreme
[08:22] <imhacker> hi
[08:37] <Flannel> Hi imhacker, how can we help you?
[08:50] <elkbuntu> imhacker, this isnt a chat or support channel. is there something you need to say about our other channels?
[09:19] <Flannel> Do we have a serbian channel? (sr)
[09:19] <Flannel> oh, -rs? interesting
[09:21] <Flannel> I see.
[09:23] <elkbuntu> Flannel, it's a republic iirc
[09:23] <Flannel> sr is the language code, rs is serbia country code.
[09:24] <elkbuntu> yes, well language is very rarely soverign or republic ;)
[09:24] <elkbuntu> british english is, depending who you ask :P
[09:24] <elkbuntu> (soverign that is)
[09:24] <jussio1> hehe
[09:25] <elkbuntu> since it's "the queens english"
[11:54] <bazhang> king_, how may we help you
[11:55] <king_> I have been banned from the #ubuntu channel. I think my nick has been banned. When I logged into freenode right now I got a message about last failed login attempt from a user called king@different_ip. He was obviously not me. Maybe he abused the channel and I got banned.
[11:55] <king_> bazhang, thank for asking ^
[11:56] <king_> I could give you the exact details proving that I was not the user that was intended to be banned. But I don't think freenode's servers will send me those details again if I re-login. If someone knows how to get query the free-node server for last failed login please tell me.
[11:58] <king> Can some op help me?
[12:00] <king> Hello?
[12:00] <bazhang> king, when were you last on #ubuntu
[12:01] <king> I fail to recall. Possibly a long time ago. We could search the logs to see that, couldn't we? Are they indexed?
[12:03] <king> Can someone give me speedier responses please?
[12:03] <king> LjL, Could you please look into the issue?
[12:03] <bazhang> king someone logged in using your cloak? do you recall if you were ever removed/muted in the channel?
[12:04] <king> I do not think someone logged in using my cloak. As for that they would need to put in my password which I don't think anyone guessed. I got info saying king@different_ip. failed to login last time. As it displayed an ip I am assuming he didn't have my cloak.
[12:05] <king> bazhang, I was once kicked out of the channel. Nothing more.
[12:06] <bazhang> king, dont see any record of outstanding bans on you here
[12:06] <king> bazhang, Look at this, I got the info, this could be the impostor that got me banned.
[12:06] <king> 1 failed login since Dec 29 20:09:03 2008.
[12:06] <king> -NickServ- Last failed attempt from: king!n=king@asy160.as243.sol.superonline.com on Dec 30 10:19:34 2008.
[12:07] <king> That ip is not mine. I think it looks like foreign country.
[12:07] <king> bazhang, * Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned)
[12:10] <king> Can someone address this issue speedily, PLEASE?
[12:10] <bazhang> um this is being looked into
[12:11] <bazhang> dont know why you would say otherwise
[12:11] <king> bazhang, I didn't know there was some back end work to do. Sorry.
[12:13] <king> bazhang, People are saying my nick is not banned at #ubuntu. Does that mean my IP is banned?! I am behind a huge NAT server, serving 1000 machines.
[12:14] <jpds> king: Hmm, I can't seem to find a ban for "king" on the bantracker.
[12:14] <bazhang> king, I told you earlier there is no indication of any ban on you
[12:14] <freerunner> It seems they banned my IP? It is going to be DAMN difficult to disprove this.
[12:15] <freerunner> bazhang, I get Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned), even with this nick. Does it mean that my IP is banned?
[12:15] <freerunner> bazhang, What else could it be?
[12:16] <bazhang> freerunner, what nick were you using when you were kicked that time
[12:16] <freerunner> bazhang, king. That was a casual kick. I could get right in.
[12:17] <bazhang> freerunner, you mind identifying to services?
[12:18] <jpds> freerunner: Hmm, I can't find anything on the banlist that would block you.
[12:18] <freerunner> bazhang, [12:00:43] Ban listing for #ubuntu: *!*@59.95.248.19 (set by LjL!n=ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl on Thu 11. Dec 15:20:23 2008)
[12:18] <freerunner> This is the ban!
[12:19] <bazhang> aha
[12:19] <bazhang> freerunner, need to talk to LjL then
[12:20] <freerunner> bazhang, Thanks to james I could find that ban.
[12:20] <freerunner> LjL, Heloooo?
[12:20] <freerunner> bazhang, When would he wake up?
[12:24] <jpds> king: Hmm, appartently there was a person by the name of 'qstnn' trolling in #ubuntu-offtopic, so he got banned there and in #ubuntu.
[12:25] <king> jpds, Is qstnn nick registered? Can I prove it was not me? How can anyone ban the IP of an unregistered user, especially this being a HUGE NAT.
[12:25] <bazhang> king, LjL is not around right now. come back in a couple of hours and check if he is.
[12:26] <bazhang> king, in the meantime please part this channel as idling is not permitted.
[12:26] <king> bazhang, If you are around would you please refer the issue to him? I may not be at the computer.
[12:26] <bazhang> king, yes of course.
[12:27] <king> bazhang, Thank you.
[12:29] <bazhang> king, please /part as indicated in the channel /topic
[15:19] <bazhang> * [Suferr1ngLinUX] (n=www@122.162.157.141): www  giving a greeter on entry to #ubuntu
[15:23] <Gary> confirmed
[15:23]  * PriceChild sends a pm
[15:24] <Gary> it's a very nice on join spam though (at least)
[15:24] <jpds> Gary: hehe.
[15:24] <bazhang> oddly enough when I try to kick it, I get 'suffer1ngLinUX not found
[15:25] <bazhang> -Suferr1ngLinUX- Hi bazhang , Welcome to Ubuntu Official Support help channel, Please read the topic .. Do not Swear, be friendly and nice to all ubuntu Lovers
[15:27] <genii> Holy crap. Got back and there are dozens of PMs from what seems random users. Was there some kind of bot attack?
[15:28] <bazhang> just the greeter above genii 
[15:28] <PriceChild> genii: who?
[15:28] <genii> bazhang: OK
[15:29] <genii> PriceChild: I've started deleting them already alphabetically, but LOTS
[15:29] <PriceChild> genii: PM a couple?
[15:30] <genii> PriceChild: Hangon, I'll screen-capture and give the urls (will be likely 3 screens)
[15:47] <bazhang> nifty
[15:47] <bazhang> did not see the bot killed but it is gone.
[15:48] <bazhang> LjL, you around?
[15:49] <nickrud> Suferr1ngLinUX has also been UndergroundZer0; he's highly interested in bots
[15:50] <bazhang> nice catch
[15:50] <nickrud> had a nice conversation with him in pm last night :(
[15:51] <bazhang> :/
[15:51] <nickrud> the dialog window is still open, that's how I caught the name change
[15:51] <bazhang> sweet
[15:59] <genii> PriceChild: Client issue confirmed with Quassel devs
[16:00] <PriceChild> cool beans
[16:18]  * genii makes more coffee and goes back to deleting another few dozen randomly opened queries
[16:22]  * nickrud thinks genii should cut back on the caffeine :)
[16:36] <genii> PriceChild: Did a git pull and build, jussi01_ also restarted core. Hopefully this will remedy the situation
[16:37] <jussio1> it was a silly mistake by one of the devs... should never have happened
[16:40] <PriceChild> what was it?
[16:42] <jussio1> why do you ask?
[16:43] <jussio1> (it was egs)
[16:44] <PriceChild> just random
[17:54] <WastePotato> Guys?
[17:54] <WastePotato> Can anyone speak Spanish? It's about #ubuntu.
[17:54] <WastePotato> Anyone here? 
[17:55] <bazhang> WastePotato, what s up
[17:55] <WastePotato> I joined a Spanish channel and they were said something about /version ing the whole of #ubuntu.
[17:56] <bazhang> WastePotato, the floodbots will get them, or Seveas will call ops most likely; thanks for the heads-up :)
[17:56] <WastePotato> I'll pastebin  a log. I don't know Spanish so I don't know what they meant.
[17:56] <WastePotato> k.
[17:56] <WastePotato> Bye
[17:56] <bazhang> sev is a bit trigger happy on that op button
[18:09]  * genii sips
[18:16] <bazhang> who else calls that on repeat :/
[18:22] <bazhang> * [FloodBot0] (n=chatzill@193.120.116.183): New Now Know How <--it is alive
[19:16]  * genii slides bazhang more coffee
[19:16] <bazhang> genii, thanks! just needing a refill :)
[19:17] <genii> Yes, I see you buzzing around like mad in #u
[19:18] <bazhang> mr_fat in -ot seems to be trolling
[19:19] <bazhang> oh he quit
[19:21] <tangentcollision> hello
[19:21] <tangentcollision> I would like to know why I was banned
[19:21] <bazhang> how may we help you
[19:21] <tangentcollision> I don't remember ever being banned
[19:21] <bazhang> what nickname and who banned you
[19:22] <tangentcollision> no clue
[19:22] <genii> @btlogin
[19:22] <tangentcollision> this is the nickname I always use here
[19:24] <genii> As far as I can tell you're not banned but redirected because your whois for instance shows "tangentcollision is tangentcollision!n=tangentc@c-24-99-81-215.hsd1.ga.comcast.net (FUCKOFFWHOAREYOU)"
[19:25] <bazhang> whoa
[19:25] <bazhang> that would do it
[19:34] <jpds> irssi users might like the autorealname.pl script, it puts the real name of the user in /join's
[19:34] <bazhang> sweet
[19:35] <bazhang> just need to wean myself off xchat first
[19:43] <bazhang> tangentcollision, you need to change that last part.
[19:44] <bazhang> tangentcollision, please dont idle in here as per the channel /topic
[19:45] <tangentcollision> sorry
[19:45] <tangentcollision> I'm off anyways
[19:45] <tangentcollision> for now at least, I'll get it changed
[21:39]  * genii thinks about the server that fell off the edge of the internet
[21:50] <nalioth> genii: not the internet, the discwo^H^H^H^H^H^Hinternet
[21:57] <genii> nalioth: Heh, yes. Looks like christel's backspace key is not mapped or so
[21:58] <christel> nah, i manually typed that :P
[21:58] <king> bazhang, thanks for getting my issue solved. 
[22:03] <genii> I'm /away , /back from home in a bit
[22:39] <jpds> howa spamming dev channels.
[22:39] <jpds> 22:37:44 < ~howa> rate my new site !! http://www.hardstylersunited.dk/
[22:39] <jpds> -motu and -devel for now.
[23:59] <Slart> can someone have a chat with zelda and  frijolie in #ubuntu, please