[02:37] <pwnguin> as i recall, glxgears is a great test of buffer clearing speed
[08:13] <Ng> hmm, are there any backports of newer intel drivers to intrepid? istr bryce did some at some point?
[08:18] <Ng> aha, found em
[08:40] <Ng> if I have some patches from xorg bugzilla from an intel person and they don't apply to 2.4.1 or 2.5.1, what on earth are they likely to need?!
[08:52] <tjaalton> Ng: master :)
[08:55] <Ng> I swear I'm -> <- close to going and buying any kind of nvidia/ati that the computer shops in london have in a fanless form
[08:57] <tjaalton> hehe
[08:57] <tjaalton> let me find one for you
[08:57] <tjaalton> ati of course
[09:00] <Ng> http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/hightech-radeon-4350-512mb-gddr2-pcie-hdcp-ready-graphics-card-p-1025968.html is the leading contender atm
[09:00] <Ng> because it's in stock in a shop I can find easily :)
[09:02] <tjaalton> yeah that looks ok. although there's no 3d-support yet, even though phoronix claims so
[09:02] <Ng> ehh, really? even with fglrx?
[09:03] <tjaalton> no I meant the free driver
[09:03] <Ng> ah
[09:03] <tjaalton> you might need to use fglrx for one release, and then jaunty+1 should have full support in the free driver stack
[09:03] <Ng> as much as I love the freedom, I've not been able to watch video from my TV PC for some months now, so I'll accept some proprietary nonsense just to make it work ;)
[09:04] <Ng> I even looked at mac minis last night, that's how frustrated I am with this ;)
[09:04] <tjaalton> why don't you use your ps3
[09:04] <tjaalton> ?
[09:04] <Ng> I have had to use it, but it's not really the nicest interface for browsing a bunch of media
[09:05] <Ng> and it doesn't have google earth, which is really very nice at 1920x1080 ;)
[09:05] <tjaalton> yes the browser could be better
[09:05] <tjaalton> both media & www
[09:06] <Ng> I could fix a fair amount of it myself though, you can create custom listing views with mediatomb these days
[09:07] <tjaalton> I've sorted them in folders, so it works ok. not that many files though, mostly just Fifth/Top Gear seasons :)
[09:08] <Ng> I'm very bad at sorting out my incoming media folder, it's full of iplayer stuff. browsing it any other way than newest-first is very boring ;)
[09:10] <tjaalton> heh
[09:10] <Ng> but generally mediatomb is getting really good :)
[09:11] <tjaalton> my QNAP has twonky
[09:37] <Ng> I suppose for completeness sake I should try a jaunty liveCD
[09:38] <Ng> and I should probably try and pester anholt directly about this on #xorg-devel rather than keep on trying to talk to the slightly unhelpful intel person on the bug
[11:14] <Ng> hmm, the jaunty driver might actually be working
[11:18] <Ng> oh, no, there was a resync. bah.
[11:45] <tjaalton> resync?
[15:02] <Ng> tjaalton: where the TV resyncs the picture, so blinks to black and back
[15:02] <Ng> got a radeon now, so I need to figure out fglrx ;)
[15:04] <tjaalton> hehe
[15:05] <Ng> it's not going well so far, activate the driver in jockey and I get the X failsafe stuff, but that has unreadably small fonts on my TV ;)
[15:24] <Ng> it seems to be failing to find a symbol that's in the fglrxdrm xorg module
[15:28] <Ng> ah, it's because /dev/dri/card0 is missing
[15:34] <Ng> argh, still with the display blanking. what the deuce?!
[15:42] <Ng> how... but..
[15:42] <Ng> how can the motherboard be causing this?! I've tried cables I know work, I've changed graphics chip
[15:44] <tjaalton> I've no idea..
[15:51] <Ng> it seems like it ought not to be possible ;)