[02:37] as i recall, glxgears is a great test of buffer clearing speed [08:13] hmm, are there any backports of newer intel drivers to intrepid? istr bryce did some at some point? [08:18] aha, found em [08:40] if I have some patches from xorg bugzilla from an intel person and they don't apply to 2.4.1 or 2.5.1, what on earth are they likely to need?! [08:52] Ng: master :) [08:55] I swear I'm -> <- close to going and buying any kind of nvidia/ati that the computer shops in london have in a fanless form [08:57] hehe [08:57] let me find one for you [08:57] ati of course [09:00] http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/hightech-radeon-4350-512mb-gddr2-pcie-hdcp-ready-graphics-card-p-1025968.html is the leading contender atm [09:00] because it's in stock in a shop I can find easily :) [09:02] yeah that looks ok. although there's no 3d-support yet, even though phoronix claims so [09:02] ehh, really? even with fglrx? [09:03] no I meant the free driver [09:03] ah [09:03] you might need to use fglrx for one release, and then jaunty+1 should have full support in the free driver stack [09:03] as much as I love the freedom, I've not been able to watch video from my TV PC for some months now, so I'll accept some proprietary nonsense just to make it work ;) [09:04] I even looked at mac minis last night, that's how frustrated I am with this ;) [09:04] why don't you use your ps3 [09:04] ? [09:04] I have had to use it, but it's not really the nicest interface for browsing a bunch of media [09:05] and it doesn't have google earth, which is really very nice at 1920x1080 ;) [09:05] yes the browser could be better [09:05] both media & www [09:06] I could fix a fair amount of it myself though, you can create custom listing views with mediatomb these days [09:07] I've sorted them in folders, so it works ok. not that many files though, mostly just Fifth/Top Gear seasons :) [09:08] I'm very bad at sorting out my incoming media folder, it's full of iplayer stuff. browsing it any other way than newest-first is very boring ;) [09:10] heh [09:10] but generally mediatomb is getting really good :) [09:11] my QNAP has twonky [09:37] I suppose for completeness sake I should try a jaunty liveCD [09:38] and I should probably try and pester anholt directly about this on #xorg-devel rather than keep on trying to talk to the slightly unhelpful intel person on the bug [11:14] hmm, the jaunty driver might actually be working [11:18] oh, no, there was a resync. bah. [11:45] resync? [15:02] tjaalton: where the TV resyncs the picture, so blinks to black and back [15:02] got a radeon now, so I need to figure out fglrx ;) [15:04] hehe [15:05] it's not going well so far, activate the driver in jockey and I get the X failsafe stuff, but that has unreadably small fonts on my TV ;) [15:24] it seems to be failing to find a symbol that's in the fglrxdrm xorg module [15:28] ah, it's because /dev/dri/card0 is missing [15:34] argh, still with the display blanking. what the deuce?! [15:42] how... but.. [15:42] how can the motherboard be causing this?! I've tried cables I know work, I've changed graphics chip [15:44] I've no idea.. [15:51] it seems like it ought not to be possible ;)