[00:00] (no action here) [00:00] leaving... [00:06] How would I go about changin the icon picture to a desktop launcher? [00:07] changing*. I made one for terminal but the icon is just a white page [00:11] anyone? google isn't offering much support on this one as far as I can tell [00:12] WaspInc: what's the extension(filetype) of your icon? [00:13] erm.. it's simply runs the command /usr/bin/xterm [00:14] thought you had made your own icon :P [00:14] oh no [00:14] but does xfce not have some default icons? [00:15] must come with some for common applications? [00:15] when you create the launcher you can change the icon by pressing the icon image on the left(I think) [00:15] that's what i thought. didn't work... [00:15] nope. didn't [00:15] what happened? [00:15] nothing [00:16] I'm afraid I'm not in xfce right now, nor can change the desktop. Just wanted to give you some support until others did. Sorry [00:16] I created the icon by right clicking on desktop> create launcher [00:16] yeah thanks for the help. [00:17] most icons seems to be in /usr/share/pixmaps/ [00:17] have you tried creating a personal launcher? I think there are two kinds of launchers... [00:18] yup. and i see a xterm icon [00:18] now just how to put it to my icon [00:18] right click your launcher > properties [00:18] then in the window that comes up click on the icon and point it where you have the one you want [00:18] i can't click on it [00:18] in the dailog that comes up [00:18] nothing happens [00:19] how do you create the other type of launcher [00:19] sorry for wasting everybody's time :( [00:19] hmm. no this is just odd. when I ran xfce a while back on freebsd I am almost positive that I could just click on the icon in properties [00:19] hmmm weird, then again I'm on gnome right now, but I can't see it being very different on XCFE [00:20] no it shouldnt be.. [00:20] oo. i got it [00:20] you don't go into properties [00:20] there is also edit launcher [00:21] ah yes [00:21] i just missed that. i just kept going into properites [00:21] that too [00:21] thanks for the help guys [00:23] no probs [01:30] has anyone successfully used a palm m505 with xubuntu 8.10 [02:18] saluton [02:27] so I used unetbootin on my hard drive from my no-cd, no-USB device. back in the device, it says it cannot detect my CD drive? [02:41] Hi guys! [02:42] Damn I really don't understand what's the packet I gotta install to make youtube (and all those flash-video sites) working [02:43] I've tryied will all those wich got "flash" or "mozilla" in their name but didn't find the right one [02:43] Can anybody help me? [02:45] please guys that's just an easy-to-give info :) [03:57] when I click shared folders it freezes and closes... where is that information stored? [04:57] i need to run a program as root useto be i could change the icon in kde to open as a differnt user how do i do it now ? the program is bitpim btw if anyone knows a short cut [04:58] usually you use sudo to run as root. gksudo if the app is graphical. [04:58] thanks [04:59] (gksudo:28809): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: [05:01] did you do "gksudo bitpim"? [05:01] yeah i was root at the time i think it will work now [05:01] thanks [05:03] works perfect [05:04] !yay [05:04] Glad you made it! :-) [05:12] Is there a way to make an internal disk appear with the external disks in Thunar File Manager? [05:13] hi all. I just installed 8.10 and I have no sound- I used to use 8.04 and had sound. I have an Intel ICH5 (which is supported by alsa) and I have turned all the controls up using alsamixer (and unmuted everything). Any suggestions? [06:36] anyone know a way to boost sound above the maximum of the volume control and alsamixer? [06:38] turn the knob to 11 [06:39] there's no knob on my speakers [07:56] !avidemux [07:56] Sorry, I don't know anything about avidemux [08:07] :O [08:07] !xfce [08:07] Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels [08:07] !xubuntu [08:07] !gnome [08:07] GNOME is the default !desktop environment on Ubuntu. To install it from Kubuntu or Xubuntu, type « sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » in a !terminal. [08:07] !aspireone [08:07] Sorry, I don't know anything about aspireone [08:10] r u still trying to install it on ur laptop? [08:13] i've got an aspire one [08:13] have it running the xfce community spin of fedora though ... only distro i found that supported everything off a fresh install [08:16] does it play dvds? [08:16] and have u tried ubuntu or medibuntu? [08:45] Hi, I was wondering if someone could give me some good recommendations on things to customize my xfce desktop [09:02] aaroninfidel, gnome-look.org, xfce-look.org, art.gnome.org etc [09:03] ablomen, thanks, I already found it I meant tools like conky etc... [09:03] Anyone know off the top of their head a program a little better than users-admin ? I'd like to add users to groups like www-data [09:04] and that by default is group 33 which isn't listed. [09:04] I checked and -help gives me nothing [09:04] aaroninfidel, well yeah you have conky, and stuff like avant should work on xfce too [09:04] the-erm, adduser and useradd (man adduser/useradd) [09:05] So you're saying do it from the command line. [09:05] ok [09:05] yep, thats the fastest way :) [09:06] Kinda odd that a gui program wouldn't have that option. kuser didn't mind. [09:06] Or at least it'd give me the option. [09:06] hey ablomen do you have a link to a good guide on how to install themes? [09:06] myeah, file a bug report i guess :) anyway, adduser USERNAME GROUPNAME should do the trick (with sudo) [09:07] isn't it usermod for users that already exist? [09:07] adduser does the same [09:07] aaroninfidel, you can install gtk themes by extracting them to the .themes directory in your home folder [09:08] (you might have to create it) [09:08] ablomen, ah, thank you :) [09:08] and icon themes to .icons i guess [09:08] not sure, there should be a help page on art.gnome.org, should work for xfce [09:10] ablomen, for some reason when I type cp Dust /.themes it doesn't copy any reason you can think of why? [09:10] how do you double check the primary group for the user from the command line? [09:10] and I'm using sudo [09:11] or is it the first one listed from "groups" [09:12] the-erm, not sure [09:12] aaroninfidel, you should not use sudo [09:12] and it is ~/.themes [09:12] so its in your own home directory [09:12] ah, thank you ablomen, again. :) [09:13] yw [09:14] ablomen, I accidentally added it to the root of the HD how can I remove the folder in terminal? [09:14] * aaroninfidel is new to linux [09:14] * aaroninfidel he figures its time to learn. [09:15] -he [09:15] lol [09:16] it appears that groups does list the user's primary group first, but I'm not sure to be honest. (my username is first, and the account I'm adding to www-data is first as well) [09:16] the-erm, hmm ok, might be :) [09:17] aaroninfidel, heh ehm first thing to learn is to never use sudo for anything that is for your own user and not system wide [09:18] aaroninfidel, and you have to watch out now, read carefully what i say next otherwise you might well remove some stuff you dont want to remove [09:18] alright. [09:18] :) [09:18] thanks for the help ablomen. [09:18] if you do `ls /` now there is a folder ".themes" ? [09:19] nope [09:19] but I know its there [09:19] ehm sorry ls -a [09:19] so `ls -a /` [09:19] there it s :) [09:20] shall we open a PM chat? or is this fine? [09:20] echo $GROUPS gives you the group id :) [09:21] ok this is the dangerous one: type `sudo rm -r /.themes`, this will completely and without warning remove the .themes folder and everything in it, so never use that command unless your absalutely sure it is safe to do so, especially with sudo in front of it [09:22] gone. [09:22] ok now go sit in a corner for 15 minutes because you used sudo to copy that folder in the first place :P [09:22] so now... I would copy it to ~/.themes [09:23] how do you normally copy it without using sudo? [09:23] o.O [09:23] yep, ~/ will point to /home/USERNAME/ [09:23] well, every file you copy that belongs to your user should be able to be copied without sudo [09:24] ah ok [09:24] thanks for the info, you've been a great help :) [09:24] so doing `cp -r Dust ~/.themes/` will do the trick now [09:24] yw :) [09:26] cool! this might take a long time to learn but from what I hear, linux is the future. [09:26] heh i hope so [09:26] how long have you been a linux user ablomen? [09:27] ... part of me hopes linux is the future, however I'm not convinced it will be. I know people who still use aol *just to keep the email address* [09:27] oh, so... now that I have it installed how can I change my theme ablomen? haha... I'm such a newbie :P [09:27] ehm... i guess iv been using it for everything except gaming for about 4 years now, been playing with it for about 6 [09:28] aaroninfidel, go to the menu=>settings=>settings manager=>user interface [09:28] Part of me doesn't want linux to be the future, because it looks nice on the resume, whereas windows XP is a so freaking what [09:28] ablomen, should I restart? I don't see it in the list. [09:28] heh yeah i guess, if it will happen, it will take some time [09:29] aaroninfidel, hmm ok then something went wrong.. [09:29] oops [09:29] brb for just a minute. [09:29] if you do `ls ~/.themes` is there a folder called Dust? [09:29] oh [09:29] the-erm, lol yeah true [09:32] i still wont regret the day that i never have to re-install one of my co-workers computers again because it started to get slow etc [09:32] aaroninfidel, if you do `ls ~/.themes` is there a folder called Dust? [09:32] hey ablomen [09:32] I'm back [09:33] yay [09:34] nope it is all the files from the dust folder. [09:34] I'm guessing [09:35] aaroninfidel, ok, well then, to make things easy, first remove the .themes folder via thunar (just click on your home folder and in the file manager press ctrl+h to see hidden folders) [09:36] oh ablomen, what is a good image previewer to download? [09:36] after that, create a new .themes folder (ctrl+n), go to the folder where the Dust dir is located, copy that and paste it in the newly created .themes folder [09:36] and I moved all the files into a dust folder [09:37] ah works too :) [09:37] gpicview should already be installed. [09:37] It's decent. [09:37] ok [09:37] so make sure that all the files are in ~/.themes/Dust/ [09:37] then start the user-interface manager thingy again [09:37] ah, it works :D [09:38] thanks a ton! [09:38] what opens a TGA image? [09:39] there's an extension I've never heard of. [09:39] Perhaps gimp will. [09:40] its an image type that is like a vector, you can scale it as much as you want === jussio1 is now known as jussi01 [09:42] wsq viewer ... don't ask me if it's in the repos, I just googled it :) [09:43] haha thanks the-erm :) [09:43] aaroninfidel: try gpicview [09:43] You might luck out and have it. [09:43] already did :P [09:43] oh bummer [09:43] so I'm guessing it didn't work. [09:45] duhh here's an idea, load up synaptic and search for tga [09:46] zgv [09:46] Should have tried that first. sudo apt-get install zgv should do it for you [09:50] thanks the-erm [09:50] :) [09:50] how do I get conky to run on my desktop? [09:50] and have it as a startup item? [09:52] where are most applications installed? [09:53] you start conky by just entering conky as a command [09:54] and you can add it to autostarted apps in the settings manager so it will be started on login [10:00] how do I access startup ablomen? [10:01] aaroninfidel, menu=>settings=>settings manager=>autostarted apps [10:02] I don't have that option. [10:02] hmm, oh im still using 8.04 here, might be somewhere else now [10:03] its an extra install [10:06] Hey! I'm running Xubuntu with Openbox, so i got no panel or anything (yet), I'm still configuring it. What's the name of the XFCE settings program? Where I can change screen resolution, etc. must change some settings, can't access it graphically though. [10:07] nibon, xfce-settings-show [10:07] aaroninfidel, you might try running xfce4-autostart-editor [10:08] ok thanks ablomen [10:09] didn't work. guess that's eliminated in an openbox session? Is there any other way to change screen resolution+ [10:09] okay, stupid question... of course there is, but how? [10:11] !xorg [10:11] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [10:11] thanks [10:13] ok here's a question, back in the day when I used to run dos 3.1 I could change the font size. It was a lot like ctrl+alt+F1-F6 I run stuff in those so if X crashes I still have processes running. [10:14] However I'd like to make it so more fits on a screen, how do you do it? [10:15] you want to change the font-size of X or the terminals? [10:15] ah the terminals (read it good this time) [10:16] no not X terminals. [10:16] tty terminals [10:16] the-erm, dunno about it, but you might want too look at screen, that way you can "connect" to those terminal sessions from a normal terminal [10:17] I tried stty cols 132 ... 80 etc [10:17] anything beyond 80 wont' work. [10:17] so say you run screen in tty1, then start an app, you can just connect to that session from within xterm, xfce4-terminal etc [10:18] looks like I need to add vga=773 to the grub boot [10:22] splash screen looks different, but it changed the font size :) [10:22] yippie. [10:23] I should turn off the splash I miss all the [OK] messages at boot. [10:23] heh :) [10:26] I think I'll try 771 [10:26] 773 is too small [10:30] for the update manager isn't there a little daemon you can have autostart so it notifies you if you need updates? [10:30] aaroninfidel: update-notifier however it's usually running [10:31] ps -A | grep update [10:31] oh, alright :) [10:32] oops ... === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla [10:33] htop is a pretty good program to tell you what's running. [10:33] sudo apt-get install htop [10:33] there's a gui program that does pretty much the same thing, but I forget it's name. [10:34] I guess I'm too much of a command line junkie. [10:35] applications => system => system monitor [10:40] what is emerald? and... does it need a graphics card? I'm running on 512ram with 10mb video ram. [10:47] what is a good extraction tool for zip, z7 etc... [10:53] how can I enable selection on the mouse in xfce4 [10:54] like to select all icons on the desktop on windows you would just drag over the icons... but it doesn't work in xfce for me. [10:56] need some help here... [10:57] i've gon xubuntu 8.10 installed by now... and also have a NVIDIA Onboard VGA... but the xubuntu doesn't detected it... and my LCD display resolution is on 800x600... how can i install the driver so i can choose any resolution other than 800x600... thanx in advance [11:00] !nvidia [11:00] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [11:01] oh oke [11:01] okay [11:01] tanx [11:46] what do YOU use for a media player? [11:47] ogg/mp3 [11:47] mp3! [11:47] !mp3 [11:47] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [11:53] mmm === Igorots is now known as Igorot [14:44] Hi one short question [14:45] Can encrypted swap file be used for hibernation? [14:50] got to go sorry [16:43] Hi, I have an old Toshiba laptop. I installed Xubuntu. Unfortunately the screen resolution is 800*600, while my monitor supports 1024*786. When using the settings manager, display settings I cannot select 1024*768. Is there a way to configure this without messing with xorg.conf? (which now has no settings at all) === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [17:47] hi === jussio1 is now known as jussi01 === Weegee is now known as Meegee === Meegee is now known as Weegee [18:32] Is there anyway to change the Xubuntu logo on the "start bar"? I'd like to have a custom logo there if possible. [18:37] !usplash | Cowie [18:37] Cowie: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork [18:58] why are so many of the install cds corrupt? [18:59] Which ones, specifically? The only ones I know of are Jaunty desktop cd's [19:00] the 8.10 release, but install and alternate install isos [19:01] I have not had any issues with them, after I found my bad drive. I use both i386 and amd64. [19:04] Since I do testing, I have to use 8.04, 8.10, and 9.04. I install them all at least twice a week. [19:05] can you give me a URL to the ISO you are using? [19:09] http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ [19:12] this is just so frustrating, because I've tried about 10 different downloads, between the 2 images and available mirrors, different cdr's, and writers, as well as attempting to install on different systems [19:12] at first, the issue was just booting the installer [19:12] now it's installing packages [19:13] do they pass the cd integrity check? [19:15] not the ones that I've checked (i just recently saw the option) [19:15] * charlie-tca_ nods [19:16] cd that fails won't work most of time :-) [19:18] somehow I am banned from ubuntu [19:18] what the crap [19:18] okay, I'll ask here [19:19] anyone know anythng about gparted? [19:19] It's a graphical partition editor. [19:19] what does it mean for a drive to be flagged with boot? [19:20] It mean's that the drive/partition can be booted by a computer. If you have a Xubuntu install on /dev/sda2 then /dev/sda2 is probably has a boot flag. [19:22] I hope your silence mean I helped and didn't just confuse you... [19:24] tangentcollision: It doesn´t seem to matter what is tagged in Ubuntu. It does matter to windows, I think. [19:25] Windows tends to boot the boot flagged partition [19:25] charlie-tca_: given testing with different cds, writers, readers, systems, I blame the isos [19:25] charlie-tca_: it's what my linux partition is flagged as [19:26] Yeah, I just checked, I have ubuntu installed on /dev/sda5 and Vista on /dev/sda2. My Ubuntu partition hasn't got a boot flag, but Vista does, presumably only non-linux os's require the boot flag. [19:27] crazygir: Okay. That's probably good as anything. It's just my experience that if it fails cd integrity check, it fails to install [19:27] */dev/sda4 and 5 [19:27] callum: Do you know if matters if grub is installed to the flagged partition? [19:27] Seperate home partitoin = good. [19:28] GRUB is usually installed to the MBR which is automatically read at boot anyway. [19:28] unless you have a non-standard installation, no it doesn't matter. === callum is now known as calrogman [19:32] So yeah, I'm looking for a cheap 1GHz 32-bit processor. Any recommendations? [19:32] Based in the UK if it helps... [19:33] No recommendations? [19:33] ah well... [19:33] I'll keep looking! [19:35] ooh, centron or whatever [19:35] intel's crap [19:37] intels crap... why do u think that? [19:38] no, I'm saying, that intel crap processor [19:38] centron or something [19:38] centrino [19:38] centrino [19:38] okay [19:38] that then [19:38] i have 2ghz dual core centrino cpu you insensitive clod! [19:39] ... [19:39] sorry /. meme [19:39] you obviously missed my insinuation [19:39] oh noes a long word! I didn't come on IRC for this lol [19:40] celeron [19:41] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116039 [19:41] that's reference material [19:41] ooh celeron... right [19:42] thanks, too bad newegg don't ship to the UK :-/ [19:42] well, I'm going to go mod someone's psp for some money [19:42] woo mods! [19:42] woohoo for having a monopoly [19:42] over here, I'm the only one who can do this [19:43] within like 200 miles [19:43] wheres there? [19:43] middle of GA [19:43] ahhh the sticks [19:43] celeron is too fast... [19:43] you're kidding me, right? [19:43] you NEED 1ghz? [19:43] u can have that monopoly :) [19:43] No, I'm looking for ~1ghz [19:43] :o [19:43] I'm trying to build a PC on the really cheap. [19:44] REALLY cheap [19:44] like ~£150 [19:44] So I decided I'd use xubnutu because I ain't getting Vsta on it or for it. [19:46] The HDD is going to be ab out 20Gb [19:46] *shock and awe* [19:46] ouch [19:46] just picked up a 1.5tb 3 days ago [19:46] lol [19:47] 20Gb > 1.5Tb in credit crunch [19:47] £ãugh¡ñg Òut £öuÐ [19:47] or if youre 14 [19:47] and therefore poor [19:47] well gl [19:47] ty ^_^ [19:48] the scariest bit is the RAM... [19:48] 384 MB [19:49] well just make sure u give it some swap [19:49] Heck I couldn't put XP on it... [19:49] It'll probably have ~100mb swap, but then again xubuntu has quite a low footprint. [19:49] prolly not [19:50] I tried it form a cd yesterday, very impressed. [19:50] livecd? [19:50] even on my laptop (fast) it felt snappier than my HDD install of ubuntu [19:50] and looks better too :) [19:50] I gotta say, I agree with you. [19:51] XFCE looks so much better than GNOME. [19:51] tho u might get tired of the system beeps on startup and shutdown [19:51] just blacklist the internal pc speaker [19:51] $ sudo rmmod pcspkr [19:52] sorted... [19:52] lxde is another good choice for a DE on a light weight machine. [19:52] thanx for the info [19:52] or you can just run fluxbox, or openbox, or other wm stand alone... [19:53] im gonna reinstall xubuntu some time this week [19:53] Why? [19:53] !lowmem [19:53] For installing on low memory systems, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements. [19:53] switch to 32bit [19:53] It doesn't break as oftne as XP does it? [19:53] no not at all [19:53] hasnt broken once for me [19:53] *phew* [19:54] but i heard that there are problems with the win64 codecs getting the sound to play on some HDwmv files [19:54] I'm not building the lightwieght PC for personal use. I'm building it too prove that a PC doesn't need a i7 or whatever, and for a bit of cash... [19:54] no porblems on the 32bit version [19:54] So hearing that xubuntu works, very reassuring. [19:54] and theres supposedly no performance gain from the 64bit [19:55] I'll stick w/ 32-bit then. [19:55] but finding a CPU that runs at 1ghz these days... [19:55] It's hard [19:55] £ãugh¡ñg Òut £öuÐ i bet [19:55] try craigslist [19:56] It's cause of all the fools who think tey can't browse the web without the latest and greatest specs. [19:56] And companies forcing you to use the latest and greatest. [19:56] Also Vista. [19:56] u mean i didnt need that new cpu to browse youtube? [19:57] NO! [19:57] lol [19:57] damnit [19:57] w8 r u serious... [19:57] £ãugh¡ñg Òut £öuÐ no [19:57] o thank goodness... [19:57] Laughing My Ass Off [19:58] FOMCL o_/< [19:58]