| vorian | evening | 01:15 |
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| vorian | thoughts on updating mlt so we can bump kdenlive? or should we wait for debian? | 01:16 |
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| ScottK | vorian: kdelive just hit the Debian New queue. | 02:43 |
| ScottK | kdelive/kdenlive | 02:43 |
| ScottK | You might write the maintainer for an advance copy of the package and see what's different from the Debian Multimedia package. | 02:43 |
| vorian | will do | 02:44 |
| vorian | ScottK: there seems to be few differences at first glance (-data -dbg to name a couple) | 02:54 |
| ScottK | vorian: OK. IIRC we used to have a -data. I'd align to that one and we can forget Debian Multimedia completely (go ahead and do a merge even though it's still in New in Debian). | 02:55 |
| ScottK | We used to get mlt, mlt++, and kdenlive from Debian Multimedia, now we can get them all from Debian proper. | 02:56 |
| vorian | ah, i see | 02:56 |
| vorian | jmpoure from kdenlive seems to be happy with our kdenlive 0.7 | 02:57 |
| vorian | they added quite a few things for this point release | 02:58 |
| ScottK | Sounds like we're moving in the right direction then. | 03:00 |
| vorian | yep | 03:00 |
| vorian | although, MLT does need updating | 03:01 |
| vorian | i'll keep an eye on it in debian | 03:01 |
| ScottK | vorian: I'd chat with the Debian maintainer about it then. | 03:16 |
| stdin | one web browser written in python, because I'm bored and can't sleep: http://paste.ubuntu.com/96564/ | 04:35 |
| nixternal | ouch, it fails acid3 test big time :) | 04:48 |
| stdin | that's nothing to do with me :) | 04:48 |
| nixternal | hehe, the webkit in gnome works like a champ | 04:50 |
| nixternal | kmail sure takes a super long time to load my IMAP email | 04:51 |
| crimsun | that's because i'm sneakernetting the bits from your imap server | 04:52 |
| nixternal | that would be a lot of sneakernetting dude, as it is GMail :) | 04:52 |
| crimsun | good thing i cloned my sneakernets | 04:52 |
| nixternal | and if their Internet is anything like their burritos, then you have no chance of winning :) | 04:53 |
| nixternal | w00t, pinentry-qt4 is fixed with kmail! | 04:57 |
| ScottK | When was it broken? | 05:43 |
| nixternal | ScottK: it has been broken | 05:52 |
| ScottK | OK. It's been fine in Intrepid. | 05:52 |
| nixternal | supposedly hasn't worked with kmail, enigma with thunderbird...and so on | 05:52 |
| nixternal | I thought it was, but anyways, there is a no release...I am going to request a sync on it | 05:52 |
| ScottK | Hmmm. Works in Intrepid with kmail just fine. | 05:52 |
| nixternal | bug #281487 | 05:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 281487 in pinentry-qt4 "[intrepid] Wrong passphrase message when correct one is entered - due to protocol incompatibility between pinentry-qt4 and gpg-agent" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/281487 | 05:52 |
| nixternal | I do remember that issue though | 05:52 |
| ScottK | Odd. I've never had that problem. | 05:54 |
| ScottK | The one person who I've helped with problems didn't have agent enabled in their gpg.conf. | 05:54 |
| nixternal | txwikinger: could you look at that bug ^^ I added a new deb you can grab and test with enigmail and thunderturd | 05:54 |
| txwikinger | nixternal: I can have a look at it, but I think I cannot reproduce it anymore | 05:55 |
| nixternal | go figure :) I am going to commit that sucker | 05:55 |
| nixternal | OOOH! | 05:55 |
| nixternal | it works | 05:55 |
| nixternal | in thunderbird with enigmail!!! | 05:56 |
| * nixternal forgets he has that GNOME desktop just for testing stsuff like this | 05:56 | |
| txwikinger | oh.. that is the other one | 05:56 |
| txwikinger | I have not tried that one yet | 05:56 |
| txwikinger | well.. I remember again | 05:56 |
| nixternal | I know that protocol incompatability issue, I remember seeing it and I think that was fixed a while back to be honest | 05:57 |
| nixternal | hrmm | 05:57 |
| txwikinger | yes.. I will look at this | 05:57 |
| nixternal | I am using the pinentry-qt4 from intrepid, not the package I put in my ppa, and it is working fine | 05:57 |
| nixternal | how can people like thunderbird? my lord, it is as bloated as their browser | 05:57 |
| ScottK | If you're used to Outlook Express, it's quite nice. | 05:58 |
| nixternal | hrmm, it does seem quicker than kmail with gmail imap though | 05:58 |
| nixternal | actually...much quicker | 05:58 |
| nixternal | ScottK: hahahaha, I bet | 05:58 |
| ScottK | My kids use it. | 05:58 |
| txwikinger | I got confused since I re-installed intrepid from scratch | 05:58 |
| nixternal | I have become fond of Evolution with the Exchange stuff to be honest | 05:58 |
| ScottK | urgh. | 05:59 |
| ScottK | I tried Evolution and couldn't stand it. | 05:59 |
| nixternal | it has worked very well, and even does all of my calendar stuff perfectly | 05:59 |
| txwikinger | really? I had always problems with evolution | 05:59 |
| ScottK | So write us some Kmail magic to do the same. | 05:59 |
| nixternal | I doubt I would like Evolution for POP3 or IMAP, but for Exchange, it is really the best bet in Linux | 05:59 |
| ScottK | best == only. | 05:59 |
| nixternal | the kmail magic is supposedly already in the works | 05:59 |
| nixternal | ScottK: exactly :) | 05:59 |
| nixternal | actually no, you could do the whole citrix setup crap if you wanted to | 06:00 |
| * txwikinger searches for the encrypted email | 06:00 | |
| nixternal | jjess has outlook 2007 running in crossover office and it was crap if you aske me | 06:00 |
| nixternal | I had outlook 2003 running in it, and it was faster in cxo than it was in windows | 06:00 |
| nixternal | oh damn, encrypted email | 06:01 |
| * nixternal didn't test that | 06:01 | |
| nixternal | I don't think I have any encrypted email | 06:01 |
| txwikinger | ROFL | 06:01 |
| nixternal | I know I don't...I accindentally erased all of my old messages that were loaded with them | 06:02 |
| nixternal | i love this keyboard...the letter 'n' and the letter 's' will just pop up where ever they want to | 06:02 |
| nixternal | txwikinger: send me an encrypted email :) | 06:03 |
| txwikinger | hehe | 06:03 |
| nixternal | what is your key? | 06:03 |
| txwikinger | Isn't it on my launchpad page? | 06:04 |
| nixternal | oh you bum! | 06:04 |
| nixternal | going to make my lazy arse go and find it? :P | 06:04 |
| nixternal | got it | 06:05 |
| txwikinger | Don't I need yours anyway? | 06:05 |
| nixternal | 2e2c0124 | 06:05 |
| nixternal | irc nick @ kubuntu . org ? | 06:06 |
| txwikinger | I think I need to install enigmail first | 06:06 |
| nixternal | is that your email addy ^^? | 06:07 |
| txwikinger | I think I have that one too now | 06:07 |
| txwikinger | usually I use the ubuntu . com one though | 06:07 |
| nixternal | roger that | 06:08 |
| nixternal | does that work with your key? | 06:08 |
| nixternal | yup | 06:09 |
| txwikinger | Well.. it was installed.. and I think I sent soemthing to you | 06:09 |
| nixternal | ok, just sent you an email from kmail that was encrypted...it has a nice little note in it | 06:09 |
| txwikinger | Well.. your message I could decrypt | 06:10 |
| txwikinger | without your deb | 06:10 |
| nixternal | yup, and just decrypted it too | 06:10 |
| txwikinger | cool | 06:10 |
| nixternal | forgot my other machine has its own gpg key just to test this whole thing :) | 06:10 |
| nixternal | so we can close that booger...and I will go ahead and request a sync with the new package as well | 06:11 |
| txwikinger | yep.. I think we can close it | 06:11 |
| txwikinger | even I still don't understand why it occurred | 06:11 |
| txwikinger | The packages I have now are no different than before | 06:11 |
| nixternal | all it takes is a goofy gnupg conf file in ~/.gnupg to ruin your whole day | 06:12 |
| txwikinger | The only difference is, I installed intrepid from scratch instead an update from hardy | 06:12 |
| nixternal | 3 years ago, JR and I wrestled with it as it kept booging our debsigns as well | 06:12 |
| txwikinger | well.. my gnupg conf is still the same | 06:12 |
| txwikinger | that is on my home dir which I did not re-install | 06:13 |
| nixternal | ya, I now have a single ~/.gnupg as it is on a USB stick and all of my machines share that badboy | 06:13 |
| nixternal | just gotta make sure to run 'sync' every now and then if I am signing keys or downloading keys | 06:13 |
| txwikinger | yeah.. that one got me confused for almost a day too before I submitted the bug | 06:14 |
| ScottK | txwikinger: Was your old install upgraded from Feisty, perhaps? | 06:14 |
| nixternal | that is pretty much the same one JR and I witnessed right after the beginning of Kubuntu | 06:14 |
| txwikinger | but that had a different behaviour.. I think the pinentry window never came up | 06:14 |
| nixternal | especially with kmail | 06:14 |
| txwikinger | ScottK: No.. hardy install and than upgrade to intrepid | 06:15 |
| txwikinger | then | 06:15 |
| nixternal | but then I was sneaking stuff to warren over at mepis :p | 06:15 |
| ScottK | OK. Feisty had a bad gnupg bug that caused gpg.conf problems. | 06:15 |
| txwikinger | Well. the gnupg issue was IIRC not really a bug.. just a user mistake by myself | 06:16 |
| nixternal | txwikinger: did you put this in a reply to me - "Encrypted mail test" ? | 06:17 |
| nixternal | not the subject, but in the body? | 06:17 |
| txwikinger | I don't think I submitted anything about it, or if I did, only something saying that it can be easily confusing | 06:17 |
| txwikinger | nixternal: in both... subject and body | 06:17 |
| nixternal | wow, KMail 4.2 beta rocks!! | 06:17 |
| nixternal | it didn't work this well in kmail 3.5.x | 06:18 |
| txwikinger | does it finally work with imap? | 06:18 |
| nixternal | I just set it up tonight with imap on gmail | 06:18 |
| txwikinger | Everytime I used kmail it had serious issues with imap | 06:18 |
| nixternal | I use mutt as my main client, but I wanted to play with kmail, and your bug report forced me to :) | 06:18 |
| txwikinger | did it? I thought it was for thunderbird :D | 06:19 |
| nixternal | it is slow on the initial grabbing of a few million emails from gmail, but after that it seems rock solid | 06:19 |
| nixternal | I made it crash once, but the scroll wheel on my logitech nx nano can make any application crash no matter the OS | 06:19 |
| txwikinger | hmm.. I used to be able to do that with Konqui | 06:19 |
| nixternal | txwikinger: it was, but someone replied that it was happening to them in kmail as well | 06:19 |
| txwikinger | Ah | 06:20 |
| nixternal | then I remembered I could install thunderturd on my gnome box | 06:20 |
| txwikinger | =( | 06:20 |
| txwikinger | gnome box? | 06:20 |
| nixternal | after trying to use konqi now for the past few days, I think they should just give up on it...it is so bad it isn't even funny | 06:20 |
| txwikinger | Are you hanging out too much with Jorge? | 06:20 |
| nixternal | probably | 06:20 |
| nixternal | I must say, my current GNOME setup, now running Jaunty...is quite hot | 06:21 |
| txwikinger | I didn't sent him a 0-16 congratulation yet :D | 06:21 |
| nixternal | using the dusk theme with my ubuntu streetart wallpaper | 06:21 |
| nixternal | hahahaha, man they are sore about that in detroit | 06:21 |
| txwikinger | hmm.. I installed kubuntu jaunty on my virtual box | 06:21 |
| nixternal | look at the stupid chicago bears...getting rid of our defensive coordinator hoping to pick up the lions defensive coordinator | 06:21 |
| nixternal | what about 0 and 16 do the bears not get? | 06:21 |
| txwikinger | Well.. the Cowboys keep their Offensive coordinator who seems to be over his head | 06:22 |
| nixternal | ya, tomorrow I will do the jaunty dist-upgrade probably | 06:22 |
| txwikinger | How comes that the Blackhawks are so good at the moment? | 06:23 |
| nixternal | I have no idea, but the redwings killed them tonight, 4-0 | 06:23 |
| nixternal | i am going to the outdoor match between the hawks and the wings on thursday | 06:24 |
| nixternal | well actually, tomorrow now, as in 24 hours it will be 2009 | 06:24 |
| nixternal | i hate new years, just means I am close to being yet another year older | 06:24 |
| txwikinger | Oh at Wringley stadium? | 06:24 |
| txwikinger | They talk about that game already for weeks here in Canada | 06:25 |
| nixternal | wrigley field...careful now...don't fumble that one to much, us cubs fans get upset at typos :) | 06:25 |
| txwikinger | sorry... too many teams in the windy city | 06:25 |
| nixternal | to bad it couldn't have been saturday....it was in the 60s here | 06:25 |
| txwikinger | and all those dead people being appointed to be Senators | 06:25 |
| nixternal | the most corrupt state in the country! I love it! | 06:26 |
| txwikinger | Well.. Minnesota is trying hard to compete | 06:26 |
| nixternal | not hard enough! | 06:26 |
| nixternal | we have one governor in prison, and another on his way | 06:27 |
| txwikinger | Did you see the funny challenges on some of those ballots? | 06:27 |
| nixternal | and in the entire history of the state of illinois, Jim Edgar was our only governor to not go to jail or prison | 06:27 |
| nixternal | we rock! | 06:27 |
| nixternal | oh, ya that democrat comedian dude is an idiot, I hope he loses by 1/2 a vote | 06:27 |
| txwikinger | Is the former husband of Jeri also in prison? | 06:27 |
| nixternal | who? | 06:27 |
| txwikinger | The Star-Trek chic | 06:28 |
| txwikinger | I think he originally ran against Obama for Senate but withdraw during the race | 06:28 |
| txwikinger | withdrew | 06:28 |
| nixternal | hrmm, I never knew her | 06:28 |
| nixternal | I am reading her wikipedia entry now | 06:28 |
| nixternal | not even from illinois, but she was chosen miss illinois | 06:29 |
| nixternal | omg, I had no clue | 06:29 |
| txwikinger | I thought I was in a timemachine today | 06:29 |
| nixternal | I know who she is now | 06:29 |
| nixternal | no, her husband wanted that freaky sex stuff in their marriage right? | 06:29 |
| txwikinger | I saw Cujo playing in the goal for the leafs | 06:29 |
| txwikinger | yes something like that | 06:30 |
| nixternal | he was supposed to run against obama | 06:30 |
| txwikinger | yes | 06:30 |
| nixternal | because of that entire thing he had to pull out and look where obama is today | 06:30 |
| nixternal | jack ryan was slated to win that election too | 06:30 |
| txwikinger | Well.. that was before the dead people voting | 06:31 |
| nixternal | hehe | 06:31 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Would you please look at kde-style-qtcurve merge? | 06:31 |
| ScottK | I can't see how it ever worked before, but I'm not sure if that's the package or the Scotch. | 06:32 |
| nixternal | hahah, ok | 06:32 |
| nixternal | interesting...how the heck did it ever work? if it would fail when trying to write $HOME/.qt | 06:38 |
| txwikinger | I found an interesting thing with ktorrent | 06:41 |
| txwikinger | it saves the torrents with absolute pathnames | 06:41 |
| txwikinger | so if you change your home dir name it has some issues :D | 06:42 |
| nixternal | is that a config issue? | 06:42 |
| nixternal | patch -p3 -R < debian/patches/kubuntu_01_default_settings.diff | 06:44 |
| nixternal | patching file common/config_file.c | 06:44 |
| nixternal | Unreversed patch detected! Ignore -R? [n] | 06:44 |
| nixternal | ScottK: ^^ how the hell did it build? I can't even build the intrepid version without it erroring out | 06:44 |
| ScottK | nixternal: OK. It's not just me. | 06:45 |
| ScottK | It needs a proper patch system. | 06:45 |
| txwikinger | or Scotch | 06:45 |
| ScottK | Please go hunt down ryanakca and beat that into him. | 06:45 |
| * ScottK gets a refill. | 06:45 | |
| nixternal | ScottK: I think the debian maintainer needs some beeting as well | 06:45 |
| ScottK | The patch is ours. | 06:46 |
| nixternal | oh, it is...my fault | 06:46 |
| nixternal | lets beet the debian maintainer anyways | 06:46 |
| nixternal | beat too | 06:46 |
| ScottK | OK, but fix it first then. | 06:46 |
| * nixternal hunts down ryanakca and beats "KDE-STYLE-QTCURVE NEEDS A PROPER PATCH SYSTEM" into him | 06:46 | |
| * ScottK says good bye to what once was a very nice bottle of Glenlivet. | 06:47 | |
| * ScottK wonders if Riddell would approve. | 06:47 | |
| nixternal | ScottK: someone else may need a bit of smacking as well | 06:48 |
| nixternal | ie. look at the changelog, Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:14:15 +0000 | 06:48 |
| nixternal | :) | 06:48 |
| nixternal | err, nevermind | 06:48 |
| nixternal | this dr. pepper must be getting to me :) | 06:48 |
| nixternal | Mon, 17 Mar 2008 - 0.55.2-1ubuntu2: Add kubuntu_01_default_settings.diff for nicer defaults. | 06:50 |
| nixternal | :) | 06:50 |
| ScottK | Looks like jr gets a whooping too. | 06:51 |
| nixternal | hahaha, yup!!! | 06:51 |
| nixternal | get um!!! | 06:51 |
| ScottK | Nah. Killing cruft tonight. | 06:52 |
| nixternal | wth | 06:53 |
| nixternal | KMail somehow made gmail think there are 2035 unread emails right now | 06:53 |
| nixternal | wow, big kmail boog | 06:53 |
| nixternal | damnit | 06:53 |
| * txwikinger just saw nixternal flying by | 06:53 | |
| nixternal | hehe | 06:54 |
| txwikinger | Are you even allowed to fly by in this province? | 06:54 |
| nixternal | probably not | 06:55 |
| txwikinger | maybe kmail counts all those unread e-mails in the spam folder that all those M$ machines send out | 06:55 |
| nixternal | that was interesting | 06:56 |
| nixternal | I will have to play with it more tomorrow and see if I can do taht again | 06:56 |
| * txwikinger wonders if in Ill dead e-mails are counted too | 06:56 | |
| txwikinger | tomorrow or today after sleeping :D | 06:57 |
| nixternal | ya, today | 06:58 |
| ScottK | Well the Gmail IMAP implementation is, 'unusual' | 06:58 |
| ScottK | So I don't know I'd necessarliy blame Kmail. | 06:58 |
| nixternal | that was the first time I had ever saw that before, and I have been using their IMAP stuff in GMail since day one with mutt and had 0 problems | 06:58 |
| nixternal | well, not 0...there is one problem with refreshing deleted content across multiple labels | 06:59 |
| * txwikinger uses a proper imap server | 06:59 | |
| txwikinger | my own | 07:00 |
| nixternal | to lazy to setup another imap server | 07:00 |
| txwikinger | maybe I should try kmail for a change | 07:01 |
| txwikinger | can I import all my thunderbird account settings? | 07:01 |
| ScottK | Mail you can import. I don't remember about account settings. | 07:15 |
| txwikinger | Well.. I don't want to re-enter all my identities | 07:15 |
| txwikinger | It would make me feel like I have a multiple personality disorder :D | 07:16 |
| ScottK | No harm in trying. If it doesn't, just don't use it. | 07:19 |
| txwikinger | well. or writing some conversion script :D | 07:19 |
| ScottK | Even better. | 07:24 |
| freeflying | anyone can do me sponsor main upload? http://kubuntu.3322.org/ttf-wqy/ttf-wqy-zenhei_0.8.34-cvs20081027-0ubuntu1.dsc | 07:29 |
| freeflying | thanks | 07:29 |
| * ScottK looks | 07:42 | |
| ScottK | freeflying: Why are we updating to a cvs snapshot? | 07:42 |
| freeflying | ScottK: they will release sometime, but I'm not sure when, so I want it to be in repositary, then we will have more feedback | 07:59 |
| ScottK | freeflying: OK. Uploaded. Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu. | 08:00 |
| freeflying | ScottK: hehe, welcome, I'm still a member of kubuntu | 08:01 |
| ScottK | Member or not, the contribution is appreciated. | 08:01 |
| freeflying | ScottK: anyway, thanks for your sponsor | 08:05 |
| ScottK | freeflying: You're welcome. | 08:06 |
| ScottK | jpds: Would you mind looking at kmediafactory and seeing if it can be fixed to be installable again? | 08:20 |
| Arby | morning all :) | 08:29 |
| apachelogger | google gadgets support in kde-nightly :D http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/snapshot198.png | 09:26 |
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| Arby | shiny :) | 09:29 |
| * Arby does the shortest work day in history and prepares to leave :) | 09:30 | |
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| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| Lure | apachelogger: do you have googlegadgets package available fo us building kde from svn? | 10:44 |
| apachelogger | Lure: only if you use neon's Qt | 10:45 |
| Lure | apachelogger: what is special with neon's qt? | 10:46 |
| Lure | so jaunty qt is no good? | 10:46 |
| Lure | apachelogger: do you plan to package it for jaunty? | 10:47 |
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| apachelogger | Lure: there is apparently someone working on it | 11:21 |
| apachelogger | didn't succeed in contacting him though | 11:22 |
| apachelogger | Lure: eitherway I plan to have it in jaunty | 11:22 |
| daskreech | What's the package nedded for KGHNS ? | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | kdelibs | 14:21 |
| daskreech | Hmm I installed that already | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: did anyone test kmag on armel yet? | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | daskreech: whats the problem? | 14:22 |
| daskreech | Nothing heart rending My computer brokeso I'm using a nother one but a) it's hardy and b) It's gnome | 14:22 |
| daskreech | So I installed a few KDE apps to stay sane but they don't have KGHNS | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | KDE 3 apps? | 14:23 |
| daskreech | 4.1.3 | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | we deployed 4.1.3 on hardy? | 14:23 |
| ScottK | No. | 14:23 |
| ScottK | Intrepid | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | daskreech: how did you get 4.1.3? | 14:23 |
| daskreech | >_< | 14:24 |
| daskreech | This is 4.0.5 | 14:24 |
| daskreech | Wrong repo | 14:24 |
| daskreech | Booo | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | good chance it just was broken | 14:24 |
| JontheEchidna | now back to wondering why jockey-backend is crashing pykde... | 14:35 |
| JontheEchidna | oh well, at least jockey is partially populating the kcm *and* the ui is actually in the kcmshell rather than its own window :P | 14:36 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna++ | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: backtrace? | 14:38 |
| JontheEchidna | thread naughtiness | 14:38 |
| JontheEchidna | http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/95495/ | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | threading-- | 14:38 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah :( | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | hm | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: is the code somewhere available? | 14:42 |
| * JontheEchidna grabs link | 14:42 | |
| JontheEchidna | https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/jockey/jockey-kcm | 14:42 |
| JontheEchidna | I've marked the code that causes the crash (and commented it out) | 14:43 |
| JontheEchidna | as a result jockey populates the ui with mostly nothing :P | 14:43 |
| JontheEchidna | I think that whenever the backend tries to use dbus to get infos for the frontend python throws a hissy fit | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | you don't have much of a dbus call do you :P | 14:45 |
| JontheEchidna | the AbstractUI class does that | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | hm | 14:50 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: do I has to do something to make it do install of the kcm properly? | 14:51 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, yeah | 14:51 |
| JontheEchidna | I haven't actually set it up to install it yet... | 14:51 |
| JontheEchidna | copy the kcm.desktop to /usr/share/kde4/services | 14:51 |
| apachelogger | oh dear | 14:51 |
| JontheEchidna | mkdir /usr/share/kde4/apps/jockey | 14:51 |
| JontheEchidna | cp jockey-kcm.py /usr/share/kde4/apps/jockey | 14:52 |
| JontheEchidna | kbuildsycoca4 | 14:52 |
| JontheEchidna | then it will be in the advanced tab of system settings under the "system" category | 14:52 |
| JontheEchidna | oh | 14:52 |
| JontheEchidna | cp mainkcmwidget.ui /usr/share/kde4/apps/jockey too | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | ah, there we go | 14:53 |
| JontheEchidna | this is what it should look like after it stops crashing: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Jn7tUiuzfcA/SVorpSpHQyI/AAAAAAAAAEA/_NcWq_5TOZI/s320/jockey-kcm-mock.png | 14:56 |
| JontheEchidna | thumbnail fail | 14:56 |
| JontheEchidna | http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Jn7tUiuzfcA/SVorpSpHQyI/AAAAAAAAAEA/_NcWq_5TOZI/s1600-h/jockey-kcm-mock.png | 14:57 |
| JontheEchidna | still need oxygen icons | 14:57 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: the question is why dbus access would crash | 15:03 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: are you on jaunty or intrepid? | 15:03 |
| JontheEchidna | intrepid | 15:05 |
| apachelogger | maybe that is the problem *shrug* | 15:05 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, could be | 15:05 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: the problem is most likely within python though, the crash doesn't appear to be in pykde, it just happens to be that kind of crash that takes down everything ;-) | 15:06 |
| * apachelogger of course doesn't know anything about python debugging and thus wouldn't know for sure | 15:07 | |
| * JontheEchidna ponders upgrading to jaunty | 15:11 | |
| JontheEchidna | rgreening: howdy | 15:11 |
| daskreech | Someone kick him | 15:12 |
| rgreening | hey. happy early new year :) | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | jussi01: do something | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | :'-( | 15:12 |
| rgreening | me monders getting drunk before noon today | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | eeeehh | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | I haz to scroll | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | meh | 15:12 |
| rgreening | s/monders/ponders | 15:12 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: I have no accesss here | 15:12 |
| daskreech | !ops | 15:13 |
| ubottu | Help! Riddell, haggai, amu, imbrandon, Hobbsee or Mez | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | bad management | 15:13 |
| Sime | JontheEchidna: it is probably related to using the gobject based dbus lib from inside a kde program. | 15:13 |
| jussi01 | grumble | 15:13 |
| rgreening | any ideas on how to make an iso for kubuntu lpia? | 15:14 |
| JontheEchidna | Sime: I have a feeling debugging this will be fun :P | 15:15 |
| * JontheEchidna wonders how to go about getting it to not crash | 15:15 | |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: wasn't debugging jockey always fun? | 15:16 |
| JontheEchidna | never this much fun | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: just providing it with fake data should prevent the crash I guess | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | i.e. don't query them from dbus but just hardcode something | 15:16 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, but then the program doesn't work... | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | ~np | 15:17 |
| kubotu | apachelogger is listening to "Deer Dance" by System of a Down [Toxicity, 2001] | 15:17 |
| JontheEchidna | unless you mean implement some of the backend in the frontend | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: good point ... but it doesn't crash | 15:17 |
| Sime | i played with this once, the trick was to call the gobject event loop when using the dbus bindings. | 15:17 |
| JontheEchidna | Sime: so this is something I'd want to discuss with the jockey dudes? | 15:17 |
| Sime | JontheEchidna: i'm guessing, but half of the problem might be that kcm doesn't use the gobject event loop which the dbus code needs. | 15:19 |
| JontheEchidna | thanks for the info | 15:19 |
| Sime | guessing... | 15:20 |
| JontheEchidna | your guess is as good as mine at this point :P | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | if koffice was any smaller it would be a lot better | 15:27 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: If I remember right, one of our guidance-power-manager patches that awen did did a similar trick. | 16:55 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/0.8.0svn20080103-0ubuntu10 is the upload in question. | 16:58 |
| * nhandler needs to spend some time on REVU to pass up vorian | 17:15 | |
| === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde | ||
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: cool, thanks. I'll take a look | 19:30 |
| * JontheEchidna begins to fear that this will require greater capabilities than his own to fix | 19:41 | |
| NCommander | ScottK, or apachelogger, feel like sponsoring stuff :-) | 22:58 |
| jpds | NCommander et al.: Happy New Year! | 23:05 |
| nhandler | Happy new year to you too jpds | 23:05 |
| NCommander | happy newyear jpds | 23:06 |
| jpds | nhandler: You too! | 23:06 |
| jpds | Best of luck for 2009 everyone. | 23:06 |
| Sime | happy new year | 23:12 |
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