[00:00] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[00:00] <Dragnslcr> The bug tracker is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[00:00] <Dragnslcr> So you can try searching there and open a new bug if it hasn't already been reported
[00:01] <jmacdonagh> bahaa: can you run lsmod | grep sis and report back teh results
[00:03] <bahaa> jmacdonagh: http://home.bahaa.biz/downloads/lsmod
[00:03] <jmacdonagh> all right, so it looks like the sis module (driver) is correcty loaded. so you're using the real sis driver, not a generic vga one
[00:04] <bahaa> and now :(
[00:04] <jmacdonagh> bahaa: let's see if its something to do with powerdevil. can you go into your System Settings in kde?
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> Soliloquial: maybe try a different gfx driver
[00:05] <bahaa> jmacdonagh: yes
[00:05] <bahaa> easly
[00:06] <Soliloquial> ActionParsnip, it was working fine earlier, I don't think the gfx driver is the problem
[00:06] <jmacdonagh> bahaa: ok go ahead and go in there and then under the advanced tab click on Service Manager
[00:06] <bahaa> and
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> Soliloquial: well its now, not earlier. id look at your video driver and X settings
[00:06] <Soliloquial> ok
[00:07] <bahaa> jmacdonagh:
[00:08] <jmacdonagh> bahaa: click on PowerDevil on teh bottom list and click stop
[00:10] <bahaa> jmacdonagh: nothing with this name
[00:10] <jmacdonagh> bahaa: uh... are you running standard kubuntu 8.10 or the kde 4.2 beta 2 packages?
[00:10] <bahaa> yes
[00:11] <bahaa> is it diffreent if i use metacity on kwin ?
[00:11] <jmacdonagh> you can try using metacity, we can see if its an issue with the window manager
[00:11] <bahaa> i tried both
[00:12] <bahaa> metacity and kwin
[00:12] <jmacdonagh> oic well you'll want to use kwin
[00:12] <bahaa> let me try openbox with kde
[00:12] <jmacdonagh> ok, close out of those settings and in a terminal type:
[00:12] <bahaa> openbox --replace :)
[00:13] <jmacdonagh> sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd stop
[00:13] <jmacdonagh> finding a new window manager isn't a solution, it just a bandaid
[00:14] <bahaa> jmacdonagh:  * Stopping powernowd:                                                   [ OK ]
[00:14] <jmacdonagh> so now do you have the same issues?
[00:15] <bahaa> still have the same issue :(
[00:16] <jmacdonagh> i dunno, although we had the same issues, i would see if there was a bios update. i suppose you could also try to get a more up-to-date driver from source
[00:16] <jmacdonagh> but i couldnt really help you get it installed. thats why i like packages more
[00:16] <jmacdonagh> plus the fact that it reacts to the keyboard makes be believe something else is at fault
[00:18] <bahaa> did this may give more info
[00:18] <bahaa> http://home.bahaa.biz/downloads/lspci
[00:18] <bahaa> lspci -vv output
[00:20] <jmacdonagh> bahaa: well it just confirms what we knew already. do you know know what mainboard / motherboard your desktop has? is it a custom built computer or a brand name one?
[00:21] <bahaa> custom build
[00:21] <bahaa> foxconn
[00:22] <bahaa> Foxconn International, Inc. Device 0c56
[00:25] <denis> !de
[00:25] <jmacdonagh> bahaa: maybe, but we need an actual model number from the mainboard. you should be able to see it if you open up the side of the case (if possible)
[00:33] <bahaa> yes
[00:33] <bahaa> i see
[00:34] <xethx> KCrash: Application 'ksmoothdock' crashing...
[00:34] <xethx> KCrash cannot reach kdeinit, launching directly.
[00:34] <xethx> can anyone fix this
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> just websearching
[00:37] <PSiL0> hmm banshee and firefox won't play nice
[00:38] <PSiL0> specifically, if there is a flash vid open in between songs that are being played in banshee (1.4), gtkstreamer gets all choked up
[00:38] <xethx> can anyone fix this?
[00:38] <xethx> KCrash: Application 'ksmoothdock' crashing...
[00:38] <xethx> KCrash cannot reach kdeinit, launching directly.
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> xethx: http://bugs.gentoo.org/156367
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> xethx: run them from konsole and you will get intelligent output
[00:40] <xethx> What is them?
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> xethx: run firefox or whatever from konsole
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> xethx: you will see outputs which will help you diagnose the error
[00:44] <xethx> firefox launched just fine
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> xethx: what about the other
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> ?
[00:49] <xethx> No
[00:49] <xethx> Just the same
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> xethx: then i'd look at your menu item and make sure its ok
[00:51] <xethx> Its not in the menu
[00:51] <OxDeadC0de> anyone here have any tips they want to share about kde4 and or plasma for use in the upcoming Tip of the Day/Welcome to KDE widget?
[00:51] <OxDeadC0de> we have a total of 7 tips at the moment... could use a lot more..
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> OxDeadC0de: what about plasma?
[00:53] <OxDeadC0de> ActionParsnip usage tips, advice, suggestions on how to do something nifty or useful for those that may not know it all ;)
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> OxDeadC0de: depends purley on your system useage
[00:54] <OxDeadC0de> This widget should be the introduction to plasma one basically. It will have advice on how to get around the desktop and introduce the user to the system
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> OxDeadC0de: theres the help item in the k menu
[00:54] <OxDeadC0de> Targeted specifically at the new user group I'd think
[00:59] <onlooker> Hi. Why doesn't my IP change to what I set it to even after I restart networking?
[01:01] <xethx> the menu button for ksmoothdock doesnt run eather
[01:13] <tweakedeh> Any one up for helping me with SSH?
[01:16] <tweakedeh> Never mind. Thanks any ways. Wrong IP =S
[01:35] <xethx> were would I find /path/to/your/kde4/installation
[01:35] <xethx> Kbuntu 8.10
[01:38] <joe-coder> When I choose hibernate from guidance power manager, my machine shuts off.  when i power it back up, it loads the os up fresh.
[01:52] <Dragnslcr> xethx- that isn't very specific. Could mean ~/.kde
[02:11] <blandon> hola
[02:11] <blandon> hi
[02:13] <jo-luis> hola
[02:14] <jo-luis> como estan
[02:17] <yop> hola
[02:24] <EagleScreen> some applications (usually KDE applications) try to call 'aplay file.wav' to play its sounds, can I configure all to use esdplay instead of aplay??
[02:27] <usbcesar> hola a todos
[02:27] <usbcesar> any one here?
[02:30] <EagleScreen> hi
[02:30] <usbcesar> hi
[02:56] <Shadowkllr> Question - Running kubuntu with a 3 partition setup. main partition is the operating system and is about 8 gigs, other partition is the /home directory to store files for my lamp server.....i have configured apache to run point there, but what do i edit to make mysql point there too?
[03:14] <antonia-laptop> hey guys, my laptop is having some graphic card issues, it says that fglrx needs to be enabled yet it doesnt enable it, however, xorg-driver-fglrx was installed and when i uninstalled x failed to start untill i reinstalled it. Also, i cannot shut down nor log off from the kmenu, i have to open a konsole and type sudo reboot
[03:14] <antonia-laptop> i've been trudging through the forums wihtout much luck, any info would be appreciated
[04:02] <dr_willis> A lot can depend on the exact video card and chipset, and fglrx versions sadly
[04:07] <antonia-laptop> dr_willis: is there anythingi you can point me to for the failure to shutdown? I'm getting this comp ready for a mom and dad and that part needs to be working before i hand it back over
[04:09] <mister-tea-lappy> apic issues?
[04:12] <mister-tea-lappy> and the dr is gone
[04:13] <khakane> has anyone used this new opensource intel video driver?
[04:14] <mister-tea-lappy> which one ?
[04:16] <khakane> someone was telling me there was some new driver that will give better video performance on like 965
[04:17] <mister-tea-lappy> sorry 845 here
[04:17] <mister-tea-lappy> try google
[04:18] <khakane> maybe its my laptop not letting it have enough video memory
[04:22] <mefisto__> I have a kicker problem. After a restart, kicker was reset to initial defaults, but the panel is locked and cannot be unlocked. So I can't change any applets, etc
[04:23] <jordo2323> If I am trying to install Kubuntu with KDE 4.2 Beta 2 on a Ubuntu (Gnome) based system, what's the easiest way without switching completely?
[04:23] <jordo2323> The nightly launchpad repository or the deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main repository?
[04:25] <mister-tea-lappy> khakane: look here hope this helps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=523789
[04:26] <jordo2323> I keep seeing different repos to use, which one is best for Kde 4.2 Beta 2?
[04:31] <mefisto__> I have a kicker problem. After a restart, kicker was reset to initial defaults, but the panel is locked and cannot be unlocked. So I can't change any applets, etc
[04:32] <OxDeadC0de> jordo2323 the nightly repo is a nightly build of the svn version, there will be bugs daily that get fixed and new ones - and they don't provide all the optional packages like kdebindings
[04:32] <OxDeadC0de> jordo2323 the beta2 is frozen, has it's own set of bugs, but is complete and has all the bindings and everything
[04:32] <jordo2323> ox:  I see these official directions too, http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2  but what package to install Beta 2?
[04:33] <OxDeadC0de> Jordo2323 if you're on kubuntu use the link in the topic
[04:33] <OxDeadC0de> does anyone here know how to get help:/ urls from the helpcenter so I can open specific pages from a script?
[04:34] <jordo2323> OxDeadC0de, Im on Ubuntu, but want to install the Beta as another option (I want to keep my Gnome as default, i.e. GDM and stuff)....
[04:34] <OxDeadC0de> jordo2323 that's how I started too, still have gnome..
[04:34] <jordo2323> OxDeadC0de, yeah.....I hear ya.....any idea?
[04:35] <jordo2323> When I put that repo in to sources.list I don't see any 4.2 packages though after updating....
[04:35] <jordo2323> OxDeadC0de, Which package to install but keep Gnome as base system?
[04:35] <OxDeadC0de> you have to sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get clean, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:36] <OxDeadC0de> i don't remember sorry
[04:36] <\kira> whats a kde equivalent to zenity?
[04:36] <jordo2323> OxDeadC0de, will dist-upgrade overwrite GDM and stuff?
[04:37] <jordo2323> OxDeadC0de, I.e. will I officially switch to Kubuntu?
[04:37] <stdin> jordo2323: just install kubuntu-desktop, it will ask you if you want to use KDM or GDM
[04:38] <jordo2323> stdin, will I be able to update the beta to a more stable release later?
[04:38] <mefisto__> OxDeadC0de: the help:/ urls are shown in the statusbar when you hover over a link
[04:39] <stdin> jordo2323: yes
[04:39] <OxDeadC0de> lol I just noticed that thank you mefisto__
[04:39] <jordo2323> stdin: which repo just to be sure?  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main?
[04:39] <stdin> jordo2323: yeah, that's it
[04:40] <jordo2323> stdin, does the beta 2 include amarok 2.0?
[04:41] <stdin> jordo2323: no, you can get amarok2 from "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main" by installing "amarok-kde4"
[04:42] <mefisto__> After a restart, kicker was reset to initial defaults, but the panel is locked and cannot be unlocked. So I can't change any applets, etc
[04:43] <OxDeadC0de> anyone know the proper way to launch a url from a script in kde4?
[04:43] <stdin> jordo2323: amarok2 does not require the beta packages to run
[04:44] <stdin> OxDeadC0de: kfmclient openURL <URL>
[04:44] <stdin> that will use the default web browser
[04:45] <OxDeadC0de> stdin thank you :)
[04:47] <mefisto__> stdin: any idea about unlockable kicker panel?
[04:48] <stdin> I guess you could try resetting kicker, removing ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc
[04:51] <mefisto__> stdin: tried that, then restarted kicker, no change
[04:52] <stdin> you need to kill kicker first, otherwise it'll write out it's settings
[04:55] <mefisto__> still the same
[04:55] <jordo2323> stdin: I did what you said and installed kubuntu-desktop keeping GDM as my login manager, but I think it installed KDE 4.1.x.....do I just update?
[04:55] <barbarian_sargon> hey people
[04:56] <stdin> jordo2323: did you add the repository? if you did then it'll be 4.2 beta2
[04:57] <stdin> jordo2323: you can check by running any KDE app and going to Help -> About KDE
[04:57] <stdin> *and KDE 4 app
[04:57] <jordo2323> stdin: New at 4.x  how do you tell?
[04:57] <barbarian_sargon> hey this is my first time getting on IRC can someone give me some advice?
[04:57] <stdin> barbarian_sargon: if you ask a question (and we know the answer) :)
[04:58] <mefisto__> barbarian_sargon: be good to your mother
[04:58] <barbarian_sargon> ok thanks bro. well, I am trying to connect to a channel called #fuck-yahoo
[04:58] <barbarian_sargon> anyone ever heard of it?
[04:59] <stdin> I doubt that channel is on this server
[04:59] <barbarian_sargon> ok
[04:59] <barbarian_sargon> thanks man
[04:59] <barbarian_sargon> how do you connect to different servers?
[04:59] <stdin> what client?
[05:00] <Soliloquial> probably in any client /server would work...
[05:00] <jordo2323> stdin: how do you tell which version you are running?
[05:00] <stdin> jordo2323: you can check by running any KDE app and going to Help -> About KDE
[05:00] <jordo2323> stdin: oh yeah...duh
[05:01] <jordo2323> stdin: what was the amarok 2 repo again?
[05:01] <stdin> jordo2323: you can get amarok2 from "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main" by installing "amarok-kde4"
[05:01] <jordo2323> stdin: 4.1.85 = 4.2 Beta 2 right?
[05:01] <stdin> yes
[05:02] <jordo2323> stdin: and you said to install kde-apps right?
[05:02] <stdin> all you need is kubuntu-desktop and amarok-kde4
[05:03] <jordo2323> stdin: thanks for all your help, I think I am there....although it's weird, when I do help>about KDE in Konversation it says KDE 3.5.10....is this strange to you?
[05:04] <stdin> jordo2323: no, because that's a KDE 3 app, using the KDE 3 libraries
[05:05] <jordo2323> stdin: has Konversation come out with a KDE 4.0 version yet?
[05:05] <stdin> nope
[05:05] <jordo2323> stdin: Thanks......how do you add a library in Amarok 2?
[05:06] <jordo2323> stdin: it keeps going deeper into the next folders
[05:06] <stdin> best place to ask is #amarok
[05:24] <yao_ziyuan> i really miss kde3
[05:44] <jtmoney> has anyone had an update become available over the past week or so? it seems like a long period for no updates
[05:47] <OxDeadC0de> hmm hey stdin , do you know of any "better" ways? like through dcop? when I use kfmclient openURL www.google.com it opens /var/tmp/kdecache-deadc0de/krun/27282.0. which has a copy of google.com's index page it downloaded...
[05:48] <OxDeadC0de> I want konqueror or the default browser to actually be pointed at the url, what it's doing isn't quite right
[05:48] <stdin> try providing the mime type
[05:48] <stdin> kfmclient openURL <URL> text/html
[05:48] <stdin> and use http://
[05:49] <OxDeadC0de> already  using http:// ;)
[05:49] <stdin> ..."I use kfmclient openURL www.google.com"...
[05:50] <stdin> beware that kfmclient (in KDE4) may not always return, so you many want to use "kfmclient openURL <URL> text/html &"
[05:51] <OxDeadC0de> :| it's still not working right, even with text/html it opens /var/tmp/kdecache-deadc0de/krun/27912.0. which contains a copy of google.com
[05:51] <OxDeadC0de> I'm in kde4.2B2 if that makes a difference
[05:52] <stdin> try changing openURL to exec
[05:52] <OxDeadC0de> this is all for a new "introduction" widget with some shortcuts to common help in the help system and opens up websites like kde.org and the plasma api
[05:52] <stdin> and remove the "text/html" bit
[05:52] <OxDeadC0de> hmm ok
[05:52] <stdin> it should see "http://" and go open a browser
[05:53] <OxDeadC0de> kioclient(28139) ClientApp::kde_open: KUrl("http://www.google.com") and it brings up konqueror, but the same damn /var/tmp stuff
[05:53] <stdin> well that's where the cache is anyway
[05:53] <OxDeadC0de> this is a pain in the butt :P
[05:54] <OxDeadC0de> it's working "right" but wrong at the same time :|, because it's pointed at where it's located on my hd it can't follow most links properly or display most images properly
[05:54] <tweakedeh> Can some one help me with GCC? I'm trying to compile a simple C program and its not working.
[05:56] <OxDeadC0de> tweakedeh if it's just one file you can do gcc file.c, then ./a.out
[05:57] <tweakedeh> OxDeadC0de. prog.c:3: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function ‘printf’
[05:58] <stdin> tweakedeh: #include <stdio.h>
[06:00] <tweakedeh> I have that, I'm following  cyberciti[DOT]biz/faq/compiling-c-program-and-creating-executable-file/
[06:01] <stdin> are there any other errors?
[06:01] <tweakedeh> no
[06:01] <stdin> OxDeadC0de: I changed back to the default browser settings, it downloads to /tmp but konqueror open google properly
[06:02] <stdin> tweakedeh: are you sure, it compiles here
[06:03] <tweakedeh> stdin. I'll take a screen shot for you.
[06:03] <stdin> tweakedeh: have you installed build-essential?
[06:04] <tweakedeh> stdin: all I did was 'sudo apt-get install gcc'
[06:04] <stdin> if build-essential isn't installed, you don't have /usr/include/stdio.h and it should error on that
[06:06] <tweakedeh> prog.c:1:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory   < Didnt even notice that
[06:08] <tweakedeh> stdin: Thanks =]
[06:14] <OxDeadC0de> stdin hah I had my default web browser set to "konqbrowser" in "default applications" in system settings, that was what was doing it
[06:19] <antonia-laptop> mister-tea-lappy what are apic issues?
[06:20] <antonia-laptop> mister-tea-lappy: sorry, i'll google it, dont think i'm around long enough to troubleshoot
[06:40] <baYVas_707> i need help with something. Is there anyone available to be of assistance?
[06:44] <sandy> hi
[06:44] <Guest75063> ?
[06:44] <sandy> where i can get the information on application development
[06:45] <Guest75063> maby here somebody know
[06:46] <sandy> ok
[06:47] <desu> sandy: what kind of development?
[06:47] <sandy> i am writing a simple GUI based application like calculator
[06:47] <sandy> but the problem is that it is supposed to move window if user drags window on clicking client area
[06:48] <sandy> it works fine if visual effects are not enabled
[06:48] <sandy> i used XMoveWindow api
[06:49] <sandy> are you getting
[06:49] <desu> sorry, got no idea about that :/
[06:52] <sandy> can anybody help me in solving the problem related to visual effects in ubuntu
[06:52] <sandy> it is creating problem in my application
[06:53] <Guest75063> i think it is too early to find somebody who know
[06:53] <sandy> ok can you tell me right time for it
[06:54] <Guest75063> maby at night but this is last day of year so many people are %
[06:54] <Guest75063> :p
[06:55] <sandy> yaa
[07:09] <antonia-laptop> guys i just updated to 8.10 and my audio stopped working
[07:10] <antonia-laptop> and video
[07:10] <antonia-laptop> and the computer cant turn off, i've checked if it was an apic problem but it is not and i've been trying to get through it for 2 days now and still no luck on any account
[08:13] <baYVas_707> I have a laptop which i just installed kubuntu on as a dual-boot. Unfortunately I can't get kubuntu to recognize my internal wireless adapter. Is there anyone in here that KNOWS what they're talking about that can help me with this??
[08:20] <avramucz> Does it have Atheros chipset?
[08:23] <javichovicio> alguien que hable español
[08:26] <javichovicio> holaaaaaaaaaaa
[08:44] <noaXess> good moring
[08:45] <noaXess> thats bad: http://paste.ubuntu.com/96701/
[08:48] <noaXess> ok.. after a reboot.. it works.. hm.. need to check that..
[08:55] <missanthropic> anyone know anything about using a sansa clip with Ubuntu
[08:55] <missanthropic> ?
[08:56] <missanthropic> it's a 2gb clip I had loaded mp3's onto it using a desktop PC w/windows XP
[08:56] <missanthropic> now, my laptop  (Ubuntu) wont recognise any files within the device
[08:57] <missanthropic> <---doesnt have the disc/firmware
[08:59] <missanthropic> PLEASE HELP MEEEEE
[09:00] <missanthropic> oh god need the music
[09:00] <missanthropic> this is supposed to be my second best friend ... next to GOOGLE AND YOU ARENT ACTING LIKE MY FRIEND
[09:05] <missanthropic> WHY ARE you even LOGGED IN IF YOU ARE JUST SITTING THERE
[09:05] <missanthropic> damnit i love my Ubuntu, but i have had it up to here *hand to nose*
[09:09] <missanthropic> hey
[09:09] <missanthropic> i need help
[09:09] <missanthropic> please
[09:09] <missanthropic> it will be a quick thing if you know anything about it
[09:09] <badtaste> hi
[09:09] <missanthropic> Ubuntu is known as n ot working with my SANSA 2GB CLIP
[09:13] <dfrey> When I go to K > Applications > System > Hardware Drivers   I am shown a screen saying that "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system."
[09:13] <dfrey> I want to use the fglrx driver for my ATI Radeon 9500 Pro
[09:14] <dfrey> Am I looking in the wrong place for the option to enable fglrx?
[09:15] <zeltak> hi
[09:15] <zeltak> anyone know by any chance why when i try to install digikam it wants to remove gwenview and plasma?
[09:15] <zeltak> (using kubuntu intrepid 8.10 kde 4.2 (Beta))
[09:21] <noaXess> missanthropic: what do you see in log file /var/log/syslog if you connect your clip? please pastebin it on paste.ubuntu.com
[09:21] <noaXess> !info digicam
[09:21] <noaXess> !info digikam
[09:23] <etoomey> HELLO
[09:23] <etoomey> HELLO
[09:24] <etoomey> sorry
[09:24] <etoomey> caps lock
[09:25] <goracy_bober> aloha
[09:36] <condon> Good morning.  I'm running kubuntu 8.10 - kde 4 - Is there any way to put a background image in konsole?  I've googled the dog-snot out of it but only find unanswered bug reports
[09:36] <condon> anyone know if there's any resolution to this yet?
[09:38] <RurouniJones> er
[09:38] <RurouniJones> Is it specifically different to how to do it in kde 3.5 condon?
[09:38] <condon> There's no background image choice in the settings
[09:38] <condon> so far as I can find, wondering if there's a patch or workaround somewhere.
[09:39] <RurouniJones> So it isn't under the settings -> schema tab?
[09:39]  * RurouniJones is glad he is still on 3.5
[09:39] <condon> nope
[09:39]  * condon wishes he still was
[09:39] <TWO> Hello, I wonder if anyone could help me with a problem I have with archiving files on a FAT 32 shared partition?
[09:39] <TWO> This is under Kubuntu Hardy Heron
[09:40] <TWO> KDE 3.5.10
[09:40] <condon> "settings - edit current profile -  appearance tab" lets you change colors (font/background/etc) and the opacity, but that's about it
[09:41] <missanthropic> NO NO ONE WILL HELP YOU THEY ARE JUST SITTING THERE
[09:41] <missanthropic> LIKE NON-HELPERS
[09:41] <condon> Hopefully it's something they'll address in the next kde distro, just have this marilyn monroe mug shot begging to adorn my konsole.
[09:41] <Tm_T> missanthropic: stop yelling
[09:41] <missanthropic> yea like my SANSA CLIP
[09:41] <condon> I would happily help, TWO, but I fear you'd end up with one screwed up system.
[09:42] <johannes_> hi
[09:42] <missanthropic> oh. i thought it was ::: caps lock=cruise control for coool
[09:42] <RurouniJones> *cough* http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[09:42] <RurouniJones> Or that
[09:42] <johannes_> i have got the poblem with kubuntu 8.10 that the screen changes brightness according to mouse focus i think almost very second...
[09:42] <TWO> Thanks condon, basically I can right click and archive files on my desktop and on the ext3 partition, but not on the FAT32 parition.
[09:43] <johannes_> could anyone help?
[09:43] <TWO> If I try to archive on the fat 32 parititon, the please wait dialogue just stays there.
[09:43] <condon> nice RurouniJones, very nice
[09:44] <condon> bookmarked :)
[09:44] <condon> Couldn't begin to tell you how to fix it TWO.  Can only offer a possible workaround - Move files to the ext3 part, archive, move back.
[09:44] <condon> pain in the neck, I'm sure, but the closest thing to a solution I could possibly take a stab at.
[09:45] <johannes_> anyone else problem with changing screen brightness focus ?
[09:45] <TWO> I guess it's the quickest option for now
[09:45] <TWO> Thanks for your help
[09:45] <condon> video card johannes?
[09:45] <TWO> I'll look into it a bit more
[09:45] <condon> np TWO, sorry I couldn't offer more.
[09:45] <TWO> No worries
[09:47] <johannes_> condon: i think it has to do with focus...e.g.i write here, the screen goes bright, shady, accordinng to my typing
[09:47] <condon> running compiz or some other focus/opacity altering plugins/aps?
[09:48] <johannes_> i just installed, nothing changed, default settings
[09:48] <xp-killer> i had a 512k internet to download with ktorent at speed of 20 to 60k now i have a 8mega internet but i cant download anymore with p2p clients fast:s any reason why?
[09:49] <johannes_> condon: i have click to focus ticked
[09:49] <johannes_> condon: should i deactivate sth?
[09:49] <condon> have ccsm running?
[09:51] <johannes_> condon:hwo would i check?but i didnt alter anything yet
[09:52] <condon> if compiz is running, even the default settings can alter the way things worked without it.  It may have nothing to do with compiz at all, just sounds like the kind of thing it would tweak
[09:52] <condon> did you have the issue before installing?
[09:53] <xp-killer> ?
[09:53] <condon> If it started after installing compiz, replace with emerald or some other manager to see if it goes away with compiz killed.
[09:54] <condon> xp, p2p aren't always the most reliable download sources.  Even some torrents (most actually) can be pretty slow, depends entirely on the source more so than your own connection.
[09:54] <condon> some torents I get 500k a sec, some 6-700, others 1-200, and the real crappy ones can run as low as single digits.  Depends entirely on how many seeds/sources and their speeds as well.
[09:55] <condon> depending on what you're downloading, try other sources - there are some great torrent sites out there if you look hard enough.
[09:58] <johannes_> condon: first time i used 8.10.when i click into a window it brightens,but darkens immediately again, annoying, how can i just get all windows bright all the time
[09:58] <johannes_> condon: hwo would i check if compiz is running?
[10:00] <condon> if you run "ccsm" at console, does the configuration open for compiz, johannes?
[10:00] <condon> probably nothing to do with compiz from what you're saying, hold on a sec
[10:02] <johannes_> condon: it says i dont have compiz installed
[10:03] <condon> in system settings, you've got Click to Focus selected?
[10:03] <johannes_> condon: yes,
[10:06] <condon> do you know which ...sorry for lack of better terminology... windows handler you'er using, metacity, emerald, etc
[10:08] <johannes_> the default kubuntu one, metacity and emrald says the terminal are not installed
[10:10] <SrDeSipan> ho do i install a plasmoid ?
[10:12] <condon> I'm at a loss johannes.  My best advice (which is usually bad news :) ) would be "sudo apt-get install" either metacity or emerald and see if another handler fixes it.  Can't think of the default for kubuntu for the life of me so couldn't tell you where to check its settings.
[10:12] <johannes_> ok, ill try that, thanks condon
[10:12] <zeltak> anyone know by any chance why when i try to install digikam it wants to remove gwenview and plasma?
[10:12] <condon> best of luck
[10:14] <SrDeSipan> how do i see the hiden files in dolphin ?
[10:15] <condon> SrDeSipan, try Alt+.
[10:16] <condon> that's a period
[10:17] <condon> otherwise, under "view" in the menu bar choose "Show Hidden Files"
[10:18] <condon> zeltak
[10:18] <condon> still here?
[10:18] <zeltak> yup
[10:18] <condon> KDE 4.1?
[10:18] <zeltak> nope kubuntu intrepid 8.10 kde 4.2 (Beta)
[10:18] <condon> gwenview depends on libkipi5 and wants to uninstall libkipi0, which digikam depends on, so you can't have both gwenview-kde4 and digikam installed now.
[10:18] <zeltak> im guessing its part of the problem (the kde 4.2 part)
[10:18] <zeltak> oh gotcha :)
[10:18] <condon> that's for 4.1 - perhaps not fixed yet
[10:19] <zeltak> do you know by any chance if there are packages for digikam 0.1.0 beta?
[10:19] <zeltak> i cant seem to find any
[10:20] <condon> not finding anything
[10:21] <zeltak> k thx alot condon, youve been a great help. its a bit wierd that kubuntu wont allow for digikam and gwenvie to co exist but im sure they fix it :)
[10:21] <condon> Yeah, I'm running into all kinds of fun tidbits.  Always fun jumping in head first into betas :)
[10:22] <zeltak> btw if i try to compile the new kde4 version of digikam (even though it seems like hell) do you think it will work?
[10:22] <zeltak> Yeah well i preffer to help with bug testing etc in the beta even though i know not all stuff works :0
[10:23] <zeltak> (my small newbish contribution)
[10:23] <condon> Hell, there's no telling.  I've dug myself so far into holes with betas at times it's been ridiculous.  This program requires you to remove that, grab this, install that, but that doesn't work with this, so use this workaround, etc, etc,e tc, until kde craps the bed all together and I reinstall it :)
[10:23] <condon> likewise
[10:23] <zeltak> :), k thx again condon!
[10:23] <condon> found a digiKam 0.10.0-beta5
[10:23] <condon> np
[10:23] <zeltak> really?
[10:24] <zeltak> as a deb file?
[10:24] <condon> not sure, my connection's slower than snail-snot in the winter...digging deeper
[10:24] <zeltak> k thx :)
[10:24] <condon> na, it's source code
[10:25] <zeltak> k thx anyway :)
[10:25] <condon> no problem.
[10:25] <condon> That's odd
[10:26] <lorena> #romania
[10:26] <condon> I've got digiKam and Gwenview installed (went through a week or so ago and grabbed all the cam/viewer/etc crap available in adept) - Didn't ask to remove plasma or anything else for that matter
[10:26] <condon> may be an older version though...
[10:26] <bazhang> !ro
[10:27] <zeltak> mmm strange
[10:27] <condon> yeah, 0.9.4
[10:27] <condon> nevermind
[10:27] <zeltak> mm i tried to install 0.9.4 version
[10:28] <zeltak> and it wants to remove loads of stuff hold on ill paste it
[10:29] <zeltak> http://pastebin.ca/1297023
[10:32] <condon> I'm at a complete loss
[10:33] <zeltak> yeah me too :)
[10:33] <zeltak> k thx again!
[10:33] <condon> certainly.
[10:36] <bhaskark> hi all, whenever plasma is crashed, gnome desktop is visible in the background!! How to fix this??
[11:01] <hang3r> what channel is the new years party in?
[11:03] <theunixgeek> I got my OpenOffice looking like this: http://i43.tinypic.com/vhbak1.png How do I get the normal look back?
[11:30] <hang3r> anyone know how to change your name in kopete with the wlm proto, it appears as though you actually cant change your nickname...
[11:51] <ubuntu> hi
[11:52] <ubuntu> hoz can write with azerty clipboard
[11:52] <ubuntu> neeed help
[12:04] <dc2447> I am seeing SetGrabKeysState enabled SetGrabKeysState disabled over and over agin in my xorg logs  on hardy -
[12:30] <teo_> ?
[12:56] <Seazor> found a bug in 4.2beta2
[12:57] <Seazor> someone to listen me ?
[12:58] <Seazor> the window for authentication (ftp, http,...) of konqueror
[13:07] <supernova> saludos
[13:14] <RurouniJones> !bug
[13:14] <RurouniJones> Seazor: go to that link
[13:18] <minterior> I have a problem in my Kubuntu. I'm using it since Breezy Budger release and my computer loose LAN connection periodically. I don't know when this began (at least a year ago, sure), but this disconnections occur every 16 minutes exactly
[13:19] <RurouniJones> What version are you on now
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> guess it was time
[13:23] <minterior> 8.10
[13:23] <minterior> and this is a new installation, not an upgrade
[13:23] <bnv> народ
[13:24] <bnv> нужна помощ срочно :)
[13:25] <bnv> у одного юзера поставил использование графических фич, больше под этим юзером зайти не могу
[13:25] <minterior> RurouniJones: I know that the problem is my pc, because I am in a LAN and the server (wich have direct connection) and the other computers work well
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> !ru | bnv
[13:26] <bnv> yes, yes. i know
[13:26] <bnv> ^^
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> minterior: i'd run lspci / lsusb and try find a better driver
[13:28] <minterior> ActionParsnip: I have two network cards (pci + motherboard) and I have the problem with both
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> minterior: are you fully updated?
[13:29] <minterior> yes
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> minterior: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:29] <minterior> yes, I do
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> good
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> minterior: so ALL networking ceases every 16 mins?
[13:32] <minterior> yes, only in this machine.
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> minterior: when it next fails, run ifconfig and look at the packet count, if they are low then the devices are turning off and on or its a driver issue. if not its a software thing
[13:34] <minterior> oks
[13:35] <minterior> it will come in 3 minuts I think
[13:39] <minterior> I'm already here
[13:39] <minterior> I've seen that TX packets were increasing, but RX packets not
[13:39] <minterior> if the packet count are low means it becomes 0?
[13:40] <minterior> ActionParsnip: are u there?
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> minterior: yeah
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> minterior: if they are near 0 the counters have reset
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> minterior: i'd look in the bios for power saving optiuons just to test
[13:41] <minterior> nop, not reset
[13:42] <minterior> aha, I will look, but it's rare
[13:44] <minterior> it is not a real disconection, is like de network card has a "pause" button, and after a minut or minut and a half the "play" button is pressed
[14:04] <shb> hello all
[14:04] <shb> anyonve know anything about recordmydesktop or other screen recording tools?
[14:04] <popey> shb: what do you want to know?
[14:05] <shb> popey: I am trying to use recordmydesktop for a screencast, but I cannot seem to play back the recorded video in anything.
[14:05] <shb> I am using kubuntu 8.10
[14:05] <popey> it should be just a normal ogg video
[14:05] <gps23> hi
[14:06] <shb> the extension is ogg, but i just get the audio output and no video
[14:06] <shb> gps23: hi
[14:06] <gps23> someone please tell me how to use krunner to search for files
[14:06] <popey> shb: well i have never seen that happen
[14:06] <popey> shb: what video players did you try?
[14:07] <shb> vlc and kplayer
[14:07] <popey> vlc has an option to show what the video is - what codecs
[14:07] <shb> moment...
[14:07] <popey> Tools -> media information
[14:07] <rohan> can someone help a noob here
[14:08] <popey> rohan: only if you tell us what the problem is :)
[14:08] <rohan> i cant get kdebluetooth to start up
[14:08] <rohan> i press the icon but nothing happens
[14:08] <rohan> i have a XPS M1530 with built in bluetooth
[14:09] <jussi01> rohan: read the release notes, bluetooth is broken
[14:10] <hang3r> rohan: basically this channel is for elite people who know everything about everything, so you should just leave
[14:10] <rohan> ok
[14:10] <jussi01> rohan: dont listen
[14:10] <rohan> sorry to disturb
[14:10] <jussi01> hang3r: please dont!
[14:10] <rohan> k
[14:10] <hang3r> its new years where I come ffrom
[14:10] <hang3r> lol
[14:11] <rohan> im still here
[14:11] <hang3r> wasted is the goods
[14:11] <hang3r> LD
[14:11] <jussi01> hang3r: IRCing while drunk is not a good idea (TM)
[14:11] <hang3r> jussi01 on new years its ok
[14:12] <jussi01> hang3r: not in here.
[14:13] <hang3r> I've been arguing that c++ < C in ##C++, so #kubuntu compares quite a bit less
[14:13] <hang3r> :P
[14:13] <shb> popey: can it be because I have the compositing active in kde4
[14:13] <djdarkman> Hello, I have a laptop, that connects to the internet trough a wired card, is it possible to share it with my wireless card?
[14:14] <popey> shb: possibly
[14:14] <Tm_T> hi popey
[14:14] <shb> popey: is there an easy way to turn compositing on/off?
[14:15] <popey> dunno, i've only been using kde for a month :)
[14:15] <cuznt> !compositing
[14:15] <popey> but system settings -> display looks good
[14:15] <cuznt> what is compositing?
[14:15] <cuznt> an effect?
[14:15] <popey> cuznt: 3d desktop stuff
[14:15] <gps23> shb, try right click on status bar and then configure window behaviour
[14:16] <cuznt> well it depends on which one you use to turn it on and off
[14:16] <cuznt> compiz if it is is in settings
[14:16] <gps23> shb, err, not status bar, but whatever is the name of the top most part of window :p
[14:17] <cuznt> kde effects are in system settings ifn i am not mistaken
[14:17] <cuznt> i do not use 3d effects.
[14:17]  * cuznt sees in 3d anyway
[14:18] <gps23> someone please tell me how to use krunner to search for files
[14:18] <cuznt> !krunner
[14:18] <shb> krunner runs programs
[14:19] <cuznt> what kind of bot are you annyway?
[14:19] <gps23> shb, that too, but it can do a lot many things more
[14:19] <cuznt> krunner
[14:19] <shb> use find :D
[14:19] <cuznt> is <alt> + f2
[14:19] <gps23> cuznt, yes
[14:20] <cuznt> type it in the box
[14:20] <gps23> shb, no, it has got strigi support in it
[14:20] <cuznt> if it is findable on your pc it willshow it
[14:20] <cuznt> i forgot it does that
[14:20] <daskreech> Anyone know how to get kghns ?
[14:20] <shb> but you have to know the filename
[14:20] <daskreech> What's the packages I need?
[14:20] <shb> or can it search with expressions?
[14:20] <gps23> cuznt, it does that but we have to enable the xesam plugin, its disabled by default
[14:21] <rohan> does anybody have a XPS M1530 with their function keys wroking
[14:21] <gps23> cuznt, i know just this much :p
[14:21] <rohan> working
[14:21] <cuznt> i must have unknowingly enabled it then
[14:21] <cuznt> cause it just works
[14:21] <cuznt> :p :p
[14:21] <shb> rohan: all I know is that the hotkey package for a thinkpad breaks the kubuntu-desktop package
[14:21] <gps23> cuznt, u can check, by clicking on wrench icon in krunner window
[14:23] <rohan> can i find ckage in adept??will just try it out
[14:23] <gps23> cuznt, what do u do to reach for files?
[14:24] <cuznt> i just type into the krunner
[14:24] <cuznt> if it is on my pc it just appears
[14:24] <cuznt> i noticed that way back
[14:24] <gps23> cuznt, this is exactly what i want, not working here
[14:24] <cuznt> i just do not usually have to search for stuff on my pc
[14:25] <gps23> cuznt, me too don't think i will use, just wanted to make it work
[14:25] <gps23> cuznt, slocate is enough for me
[14:25]  * cuznt is very particular where things go. because i am a stoner.... kind of like preventive maintenance.
[14:26] <gps23> lol
[14:26] <cuznt> i could quit pot altogether but.... eh.....
[14:26] <cuznt> if it can search for stuff on my other kde hard drive and separate system... that might be diff
[14:27] <cuznt> and upon searching for xesam it does not show it for krunner
[14:27] <cuznt> Pinot also provides a Xesam interface, which can be used through Xesam Query
[14:28] <cuznt> This package provides a Xesam adaptor for Beagle indexing tool.
[14:28] <cuznt> and searching for it in the krunner wench icon... shows nothing of that nature
[14:29] <gps23> cuznt, i dont think package searching feature is there in krunner
[14:29] <cuznt> in fact searching on synaptic for krunner comes up with nothing. in case i could right click and add Xesam
[14:30] <cuznt> if i type in music in my krunner, it comes up with the folder to click on and open
[14:30] <gps23> cuznt, thats coz krunner is integeral part of kde4
[14:30] <rohan> comeon anybody
[14:31] <cuznt> as i gather... but if there are plug ins i figured it would be a pre cursor to the program name somehow
[14:31] <cuznt> what are you looking for rohan
[14:31] <anybody> ?
[14:31] <rohan> i want to install the hotkey package
[14:31] <faydriss> !hotkey
[14:32] <faydriss> isnt a hotkey something you choose?
[14:32] <rohan> uh i dont have the slightest idea
[14:33] <cuznt> heh wrong me i was
[14:33] <rohan> ive been adding packages through adept
[14:33] <gps23> rohan, try aptitude searh hotkey, see u find something of ur interest
[14:33] <rohan> will do that right now
[14:33] <ray_> hello?
[14:36] <cuznt> hotkey is not a program but a series of keystrokes to run programs or do things
[14:36] <cuznt> http://www.clug.ca/node/225
[14:36] <cuznt> hotkeys
[14:36] <gps23> cuznt, rohan want some program to control hotkeys
[14:36] <cuznt> it is already there
 + <f2> is a hotkey
[14:37] <cuznt> ALT-Tab 	Task List Selection
[14:37] <gps23> cuznt, no, the extra keys that are there in a laptop
[14:37] <rohan> exactly
[14:37] <cuznt> you can choose them with your preferences
[14:37] <rohan> like the scroll lock
[14:37] <jussi01> !shortcuts
[14:37] <gps23> rohan, scroll lock?
[14:37] <rohan> to be exact the function keys
[14:38] <cuznt> !shortcuts | rohan
[14:38] <rohan> fn+numlock,fn+f8
[14:39] <gps23> rohan, these are hardware controlled, i think they should just work
[14:39] <rohan> dont work on my laptop
[14:40] <rohan> when i press the fn+num lk key nothing happens
[14:40] <gps23> rohan, what does it do where it works?
[14:40] <cuznt> did you try what the bot shows?
[14:40] <rohan> though i can control the brightness and hibernate key
[14:41] <cuznt> !keyboard
[14:41] <ghostcube> hi folks is there any chance the 180.x drivers will get into intrepid
[14:41] <cuznt> maybe the layout is configured wrong
[14:41] <rohan> im running kubuntu 8.10 btw
[14:41] <rohan> ight now
[14:41] <rohan> checking that right now
[14:42] <gps23> rohan, i am saying they should just work without any setting coz, on my toshiba laptop they are working, even though its a gentoo with fluxbox as wm
[14:42] <Guest51042> hi I wanna ask a question pls
[14:42] <rohan> the thing is that they are not working as of now
[14:43] <rohan> neither did they work in the live cd mode
[14:43] <rohan> some of them work and some of them dont
[14:43] <Senior> My sound card is not working when I Installed ubuntu b.10
[14:43] <Senior> could any one pls helpme
[14:44] <gps23> rohan, may be the hibernate sequence isn't working coz, your laptop doesn't know abt ppwer managament being used, but ur brightness control sequence should have working
[14:44] <gps23> worked*
[14:44] <Senior> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey
[14:45] <rohan> the hibernate and brightness control sequence are the only ones workin
[14:45] <rohan> g
[14:45] <rohan> the rest are not
[14:45] <Senior> pls gps23 can I ask you a question??
[14:45] <gps23> Senior, sure, but i am not expert :)
[14:46] <gps23> Senior, which soundcard u have?
[14:46] <Senior> I bought a new laptop
[14:46] <Senior> it is HP dv4
[14:46] <Senior> centrino 2
[14:46] <shb> popey: that was it
[14:46] <shb> compositing was killing the vide
[14:47] <shb> o
[14:47] <gps23> Senior, how u know that soundcard isn't working?
[14:47] <popey> nasty
[14:47] <shb> you can turn it off by right clicking the title bar of any window
[14:47] <shb> then you can turn off the desktop effects fo kwin there.
[14:47] <rohan> ok i just went to keyboard layout  in regional and found some dell keyboards
[14:47] <rohan> testing them right now
[14:49] <Senior> sound works at the startup ubuntu only
[14:49] <ge2x> hey i want to install firefox
[14:49] <Senior> else there is no sound
[14:49] <ge2x> are all those packages (132 mb) unpacked really needed?
[14:50] <jussi01> ge2x: no
[14:50] <ge2x> then how do i install under kde34?
[14:50] <ge2x> kde4
[14:50] <JontheEchidna> sudo apt-get install --no-recommends firefox should cut it down a bit
[14:50] <jussi01> ge2x: sudo apt-get install  --no-install-recommends firefox
[14:50] <rohan> none of the dell ones work
[14:50] <ge2x> cause now its saying that i need gnome-keyring and other unuseful stuff
[14:51] <jussi01> JontheEchidna: :D
[14:51] <ge2x> thanks
[14:51] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[14:51] <gps23> Senior, if u can hear the sound at start up then ur soundcard is alright
[14:51] <gps23> Senior, for mp3 playback etc, u need to install codecs
[14:52] <Senior> ok I did this
[14:52] <Senior> but no mp3 is working at all
[14:52] <jussi01> Senior: youve checked everyting is unmuted and up?
[14:52] <gps23> Senior, did u installed ubuntu-restrict-drivers package?
[14:53] <jussi01> gps23: kubuntu-restricted-extras ;)
[14:53] <pkodon> Hello
[14:53] <abate> Hi
[14:53] <gps23> jussi01, yeah, thanks for pointing out
[14:54] <ge2x> hey what firefox theme should i use under kde4?
[14:55] <pkodon> I'm rather new at Linux, and am having a problem. I've been trying to get flash movies to play in Firefox, but, even though I've installed the latest version of Adobe flash player/plugin from the repository, and have JavaScript turned on, every website says that I don't have the plugin or don't have JavaScript turned on.
[14:56] <gps23> ge2x, use any but not the default one, its has got some graphics problems
[14:56] <jussi01> pkodon: you have the java plugin installed?
[14:56] <jussi01> pkodon: try installing the kubuntu-restricted-extras package - that should get everything you need
[14:57] <pkodon> Hmm, I know I installed one restricted package.
[14:57] <gps23> !restricted
[14:57] <pkodon> It installed Sun Java
[14:58] <gps23> how can i make some program start automatically at startup?
[14:58] <jussi01> pkodon: and I assume you have restarted firefox following that?
[14:58] <jussi01> !autostart | gps23
[14:59] <gps23> jussi01, does this apply to kde4 too?
[14:59] <pkodon> jussi01: It wasn't running when I installed, and I've rebooted since then, too.
[14:59] <jussi01> gps23: the first part does
[14:59] <gps23> jussi01, ok, thanks
[14:59] <jussi01> gps23: ie. To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart.
[15:00] <gps23> jussi01, alrighty
[15:00] <jussi01> gps23: you can also go to system settings -> advanced - autostart
[15:00] <jussi01> pkodon: sorry, no idea then. :/
[15:00] <gps23> jussi01, check that
[15:00] <gps23> jussi01, checking* that
[15:00] <Bryan> Is there a power manager that will allow me to sit a different action the computer takes on closing my laptop's lid, based on weather it is plugged in or on battery power?
[15:00] <rohan> still have the fn key problem
[15:01] <gps23> since i have enable xesam plugin and installed strigidaemon, krunner keeps on crashing
[15:02] <pkodon> jussi01: Hmm, well, I tried everything I could before coming here. I've worked on a lot of systems, from the TRS80 Model I, Amiga, through WinXP, but this problem I've never had before.
[15:03] <jussi01> pkodon: its a curious one, only thing I can suggest it to remove the flashplugin-nonfree and install adobe-flashplugin from the partner repo
[15:03] <pkodon> jussi01: Oh, if both the non-free and the free are installed, could they be conflicting?
[15:04] <jsubl2> !bluez
[15:04] <jussi01> pkodon: hrm, what do you mean?
[15:04] <jsubl2> are older bluez packages available anywhere
[15:04] <jussi01> pkodon: do you have gnash installed?
[15:04] <pkodon> gnash?
[15:04] <jussi01> pkodon: obviously not
[15:04] <jussi01> :)
[15:05] <pkodon> Let me look in adept
[15:05] <rohan> any help with those fn keys would be much appreciated
[15:05] <jussi01> pkodon: but do try that what I just suggested
[15:05] <pkodon> BRB
[15:05] <jussi01> rohan: which ones are you trying to change?
[15:06] <rohan> im trying to get them to work
[15:06] <rohan> them function keys on my laptop
[15:06] <jussi01> rohan: have you been to system settings - input actions?
[15:07] <rohan> im there,whats next
[15:07] <gps23> pkodon, u can check plugins window in firefox, if it shows something interesting
[15:07] <jussi01> or system settings - keyboard and mouse - standard/global keyboard shortcuts
[15:07] <rohan> not the shortcuts
[15:08] <rohan> i want to enable some of my non functioning fn keys
[15:08] <ghostcube> rohan, maybe the kernel doesnt know the keys
[15:08] <jussi01> rohan: I know what you mean, the functions like brightness, sound etc, no?
[15:08] <rohan> jussi:exactly
[15:08] <jussi01> !tab | rohan
[15:09] <pkodon> Okay, in Adept, I have both the adobe-flashplugin and flashplugin-nonfree installed. In the plugins window in Firefox, I see no flash plugin.
[15:09] <jussi01> pkodon: remove flashplugin-nonfree
[15:09] <pkodon> I downloaded the flash plugin from Adobe's website, and when I tried to install it, it says I already have a later version installed.
[15:10] <jussi01> rohan: system settings - keyboard and mouse - global keyboard shortcuts can do that
[15:10] <pkodon> Okay, the question then is, will I miss some content without the nonfree one?
[15:10] <jussi01> pkodon: then adobe-flashplugin is not a NON FREE ONE!
[15:11] <daskreech> jussi01: what?
[15:11] <pkodon> Okay, let's start this way, I'll uninstall all flash plugin-related packages and see what happens.
[15:11] <daskreech> Adobe Flash is Free?
[15:12] <jussi01> daskreech: no...
[15:14] <rohan> still no luck with the scroll lock,break,sysrq,pause,break keys
[15:14] <rohan> same for the battery key
[15:15] <ghostcube> jussi01, any idea why alt + f2 isnt working on 4.1.3?
[15:18] <khakane> ghostcube: doesnt work in 4.2 beta either
[15:19] <Bryan> Is there a power manager that will allow me to sit a different action the computer takes on closing my laptop's lid, based on weather it is plugged in or on battery power?
[15:20] <rohan> helllloooo
[15:20] <jussi01> !repeat | rohan
[15:21] <ghostcube> khakane, hmm yeah but why the shortcut is placed where its always been #:|
[15:22] <ghostcube> rohan, 'xev' in terminal
[15:22] <ghostcube> then press a key from the specials if there is an keycode
[15:25] <rohan> ok i understand
[15:25] <rohan> done
[15:26] <ghostcube> did the keys spit out an keycode ?
[15:27] <rohan> KeymapNotify event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
[15:27] <rohan>     keys:  0   0   0   0   16  0   0   0   0   2   0   0   0   0   0   0
[15:27] <rohan>            0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   32  0   0   0   80  0
[15:27] <rohan> KeyRelease event, serial 20, synthetic NO, window 0x5000001,
[15:27] <rohan>     root 0x13b, subw 0x0, time 21256254, (149,803), root:(821,828),
[15:27] <rohan>     state 0x10, keycode 36 (keysym 0xff0d, Return), same_screen YES,
[15:27] <rohan> "   XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (0d) "
[15:27] <rohan>     XFilterEvent returns: False
[15:27] <rohan> part of the output
[15:28] <pkodon> jussi01: Okay, here's a thought. I just discovered yesterday that when you go to install something in Adept, if you select details, there is a list of suggested and required software to install. It seems that the suggested ones don't get installed.
[15:29] <pkodon> jussi01: You have to select each one and request that they be installed. I wonder if that has anything to do with it.
[15:29] <ghostcube> !pastebin | rohan
[15:30] <rohan> oops soory im an absolute at this thing
[15:30] <pkodon> jussi01: That flash plugin has a lot of listings of things it conflicts with, as well as suggested things to install.
[15:30] <rohan> *noob
[15:31] <pkodon> rohan: Heh, we're all noobs at something.
[15:32]  * pkodon is a noob at Linux
[15:32] <rohan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/96964/
[15:33] <pkodon> Well, anyway, looks like jussi01 has gone for coffee or something...
[15:33] <Guest49776> my kopete chat windows just send 1 message and close it self after I press Enter
[15:34] <Guest49776> also any of the chat style are taking effect on kopete
[15:34] <Guest49776> any idea??
[15:34] <Guest49776> I uninstall kopete and reinstall, delete the accounts, but nothing work
[15:35] <rohan> :D
[15:40] <Shadeslayer> looks like everybody has gone for coffee :D
[15:40] <thomliz> hi
[15:41] <thomliz> was ist
[15:53] <marek_> hi, how can i stop/cancel transfer in kde 4.2?
[15:53] <simone_> a
[15:53] <khakane> wow this is new... just upgraded 4.2, now when i see the kubuntu logo on bootup it hangs untill i press any key
[15:54] <khakane> any ideas on that?
[15:58] <marek_> khakane can you press alt+ctrl_f8?
[15:58] <khakane> yea i already on that path hah, noticed i could watch startup services that way
[15:58] <khakane> so rebooting ;)
[16:01] <maximiliano> Hi ami!
[16:02] <SilentDis> !dma
[16:05] <pkodon> Okay, figgured out what happened with the adobe flash player plugin problem. If you install it before you install Firefox, Firefox doesn't know it exists. You have to uninstall it and reinstall it after installing Firefox.
[16:08] <jing1> I am wondering if anyone can help me, kdm does not run automately, I have to run it manually
[16:09] <khakane> ugh got it all 100% except now it wont shutdown lol
[16:09] <gianluca> ciao
[16:10] <gianluca> hello
[16:12] <SilentDis> !pastebin
[16:13] <SilentDis> greetings.  i recently had to reinstall (had a HD fail and not recent enough backups, /home was ok though!) and for some reason DMA on my DVD drive is disabled.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/97013/  any suggestions would be appreciated
[16:15] <rickest> SilentDis: is it SATA?  SATA doesn't do DMA
[16:15] <SilentDis> rickest: it's an IDE drive
[16:16] <pkodon> SilentDis: Hmm, is there a setting for that in BIOS?
[16:16] <khakane> sata supports dma, just hdparm does not
[16:16] <SilentDis> pkodon: it's set properly.  i remember having to set something somewhere in config when i first installed 8.10, but cannot remember for the life of me where the page with those instructions are
[16:17] <rickest> have you tried hdparm and it's dma-related options?
[16:17] <SilentDis> and the !dma infoid doesn't have the stuff i need :(
[16:19] <SilentDis> rickest: I've not tried any hdparm stuff, iirc that was a blind alley the first time i encountered this issue.
[16:21] <Guest16801> is there and widget to add in to the task panel to monitoring my cpus??
[16:36] <khakane> not starting K Display MAnager (kdm0kde4) it is not the default window manager
[16:37] <khakane> yet i dont have that one installed... just kdm
[16:37] <thomliz> hi
[16:40] <khakane> grr i cannot get KDE to fire now
[16:41] <khakane> login, get the login sound, and still grey desktop with nothing loaded
[16:43] <amerigo> hello ... i need to download in peer to peer .... What a good program to do this in KDE
[16:43] <amerigo> ?
[16:43] <amerigo> sorry ... in Kubuntu
[16:47] <amerigo> !SHARING
[16:47] <amerigo> 1share
[16:47] <amerigo> !share
[16:48] <amerigo> !p2p
[16:49] <amerigo> !eDonkey
[16:50] <explodingeardrum> Have a problem with installing kubuntu on an external hdd. I installed it and everything works. When I boot of my main hdd GRUB shows up. how do I get rid of grub so that only my wubi/longhorn(vista) loader shows up?
[16:53] <explodingeardrum> is anyone there?
[16:53] <Mamarok> explodingeardrum: you mean "here"?
[16:54] <explodingeardrum> I doesn't matter
[16:54] <explodingeardrum> *It
[16:54] <Mamarok> !grub
[16:54] <ollynetworking> right
[16:54] <khakane> wow seems im not the only one to run into this problem
[16:55] <Mamarok> explodingeardrum: what wubi loader are you talking about? Grub is the default boot loader
[16:56] <kija> Hello all, i wanted to install kubuntu how much swap space should i give, i have 2gb ram.Please help.
[16:56] <Mamarok> kija: 0-4 Gb, usually twice the RAM amount
[16:56] <explodingeardrum> I have wubi and vista on my hdd and  installed kubuntu on an external why does grub show up when I boot my main?
[16:57] <Mamarok> explodingeardrum: how else do you want to boot Linux then?
[16:57] <kija> Mamarok, thanks
[16:57] <Mamarok> !wubi
[16:57] <explodingeardrum> I know
[16:58] <Mamarok> wubi is only an installer, not a boot loader
[16:58] <explodingeardrum> Hold
[16:58] <explodingeardrum> on
[16:58] <explodingeardrum> Grub shows up before my wubi/longhorn does
[16:59] <explodingeardrum> Grub didn't show up in till I installed kubuntu on a external
[16:59]  * jobe is otherwise occupied: Gone away for now
[17:00] <Mamarok> explodingeardrum: you mean you installed the Wubi Kubuntu on an external HD?
[17:00] <explodingeardrum> no
[17:01] <rohan> by wubi loader he means
[17:01] <rohan> that the loader in which gets to choose vista or ubuntu
[17:01] <explodingeardrum> I ubuntu/vista on my main kubuntu on my external
[17:01] <rohan> which comes after the grub loader
[17:02] <Raceman> Hi all, i'm new to kubuntu kde 4.1, I like to start the most of my applications (e.g. firefox) full screen, but can't find out how. Try google-ing for it, and properties of the icon, but no success. Anybody a hint?
[17:02] <oliverjamestobia> f11?
[17:02] <rohan> i had installed ubuntu 8.10 by wubi and it showed a black screen where you could choose between the two
[17:02] <explodingeardrum> I don't know how to by-pass grub I just pressed buttons till my regular bootloader showed up
[17:03] <Raceman> oliverjamestobia: not the full screen without borders, but the normal full screen, and auto full screen when i start the application.
[17:03] <Mamarok> explodingeardrum: you can change the waiting time for Grub if it's too long: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[17:03] <rohan> maybe f8
[17:04] <explodingeardrum> that means I have 2 differnt grub loaders
[17:04] <rohan> doesnt the grub loaader give you an option to choose between all installed OS's on your
[17:05] <rohan> system
[17:05] <explodingeardrum> yes
[17:06] <rohan> then whats the prpblem??
[17:06] <explodingeardrum> but I have 2. the first one is blank
[17:06] <rohan> *problem
[17:06] <rohan> u mean the firstone does not show any options??
[17:06] <rohan> *first one
[17:07] <explodingeardrum> yes
[17:07] <rohan> maybe you can go to the grub editor to delete the one without the option
[17:08] <explodingeardrum> Why does it even show up on my main If I installed kubuntu on an external?
[17:09] <rohan> well because i think GRUB is installed in the MBR which would be on your main HDD
[17:09] <explodingeardrum> going to reboot and try to remove it.
[17:10] <rohan> good luck
[17:13] <khakane> not starting k display manager kdm-kde4 it is not the default display manager
[17:19] <ghostcube> khakane, sudo dpkg -reconfigure kdm
[17:19] <ghostcube> ??
[17:19] <ghostcube> isnt this working
[17:21] <stephane> hello
[17:21] <stephane> does anyone here use the option "new link to a device" in kde ?
[17:22] <khakane> ghostcube: hasnt done anything for me atm, and i dont even have kdm installed, tried gdm hoping it would get me around hte problem
[17:22] <stephane> I would like to use it, and I modified my /etc/fstab
[17:22] <stephane> but it didn't help me really !
[17:23] <khakane> something is referencing kdm-kde4 but i removed it a long time ago
[17:24] <ghostcube> khakane, sudo dpkg --purge kdm-kde4
[17:24] <ghostcube> khakane, sudo dpkg -remove --purge kdm-kde4
[17:24] <ghostcube> damn
[17:24] <ghostcube> khakane, sudo dpkg -remove kdm-kde4 --purge
[17:27] <khakane> i did it and no help
[17:27] <oliverjamestobia> ou shouldn't actually even be alive you snivelling little creep, I hate you so much I want to shoot you in your face
[17:29] <pkodon> All these sudo command instructions in the docs can be confusing.
[17:29] <pkodon> I'd rather just open a root shell and type the command in directly without sudo.
[17:31] <shortname> Hello all, I've got a rather frustrating problem in Kubuntu 8.10 --  my mic was working  fine until I accidentally set my CD as my capture device, and now kmix won't allow me to unset it. Suggestions?
[17:31] <ghostcube> try to ubnset it in alsamixer
[17:32] <shortname> ghostcube: Okay, how do I do that? According to alsamixer the capture device is set as "Mic 1"
[17:32] <Mamarok> pkodon: not very secure to do that
[17:33] <ghostcube> then it should be still working oO shortname
[17:33] <ghostcube> maybe kmix is crahsed u tried to restart it
[17:33] <shortname> ghostcube: Okay, managed to change it. Turns out I had to hit tab in alsamixer to get a list of capture devices, and it could be changed from there. I'll test it in a minute
[17:34] <shortname> ghostcube: While I'm thinking of it, you don't know anything about memtest86, do you? It is giving me some odd behavior: it locks up at about the same wall time, and during the same test, each time I run it. I just bought new memory, so I'm suspicious.
[17:35] <ghostcube> shortname, hm no idea about memtest
[17:35] <nop> hello
[17:36] <shortname> ghostcube: Okay, we'll I'll read up on it and see if anybody else has this issue. I'm not overclocking, and it is nice memory (pqi), so hopefully this is not a serious issue. Thanks!
[17:38] <rohan> hey just used sudo apt-get upgrade to upgrade to KDE 4.2 but nothing happened
[17:38] <rohan> im still at 4.1
[17:43] <antiquark> rohan: did you add 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main'?
[17:43] <rohan> i added it to my repositories in adept
[17:43] <skii> i have a problem and was woundering if someone can help me out?
[17:44] <antiquark> try sudo apt get update
[17:44] <rohan> skii:go on
[17:44] <skii> my creative zen isn't work'n on my computer and i need to reinstall firmware but my computer isn't reading it and i don't know why
[17:46] <skii> can anyone help  me out?
[17:46] <rohan> Failed to fetch cdrom
[17:46] <skii> it's not that
[17:46] <rohan> just a sec skii
[17:47] <skii> i did conect my creative zen v plus 2 gig into the usb then i did put it to my computer but it still wont read it
[17:47] <skii> ok
[17:47] <skii> rohan
[17:47] <antiquark> rohan: make sure you haven't messed up your sources.list
[17:47] <rohan> skii:which OS's do you have
[17:48] <skii> window's and linux
[17:48] <rohan> antiquark:would that be in adept
[17:48] <skii> window's xp professional and kubuntu
[17:48] <rohan> skii:and it works on none of them??
[17:48] <skii> that's rite
[17:49] <antiquark> rohan: it's a file but adept must read it to work. Try loading adept and see if it complains about anything
[17:49] <skii> it did before but i need to reinstall firmare for it to be able to work and i can't cuz my computer wont read both of my os's
[17:49] <rohan> skii:im sorry i cannot help you on that one
[17:50] <skii> thnx for try'n
[17:50] <skii> ^_^
[17:50] <rohan> try asking somebody else
[17:50] <antiquark> skii: I've no idea, but you probably have to do it in windows
[17:50] <skii> i'm ask'n everyone and anyone
[17:50] <rohan> antiquark:no problem in opening adept
[17:51] <rohan> ive even added the deb link in my sources
[17:51] <skii> i don't think so cuz it did work on my computer before with both window's and kubuntu so i don't think that's it
[17:51] <skii> antiuark
[17:51] <antiquark> skii: I meant, that if you want to fix the firmware, you probably have to do that in windows
[17:52] <antiquark> skii: try searching Creative's website for software which reinstalls the firmware
[17:52] <skii> wine will work as well just like windows
[17:53] <antiquark> rohan: and what did apt-get update say?
[17:53] <antiquark> did it manage to fetch the list?
[17:53] <rohan> failed to fetch CD-rom
[17:53] <ubuntu> hello
[17:53] <rohan> it fetched the list
[17:54] <antiquark> rohan: uncheck the cdrom from Adept and try again
[17:54] <rohan> skii:does the zen work,as in when not connected??
[17:54] <khakane> i CANNOT get kde to launch
[17:55] <rohan> under the third party software???
[17:55] <rohan> tab
[17:56] <rohan> fetchde the list after unchecking the box
[17:57] <rohan> *fetched
[17:57] <antiquark> rohan: and you got the updates?
[17:58] <rohan> no,in the end it says fetched 2B in 5s
[17:58] <rohan> reading package lists ...done
[17:59] <antiquark> rohan: can you see the pasted source in adept?
[18:00] <rohan> where would that be
[18:00] <antiquark> rohan: I mean can you see 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main' and a check mark in adept's sources?
[18:00] <rohan> yes
[18:01] <rohan> its under the third party software tab
[18:01] <antiquark> yes, it should be there
[18:01] <rohan> its there
[18:01] <antiquark> I don't know then. Maybe as a last resort you could restart your system
[18:02] <rohan> ok will restart and see if it works
[18:05] <rohan> it was a no go with the restart
[18:05] <rohan> and i have 2 more problems
[18:06] <rohan> the first is that my keyboard stops functioning after every 10 mins or so
[18:06] <ssokolow_> How would I go about building a custom install ISO containing the latest packages for whichever version of Kubuntu was the last to offer KDE 3.5.x?
[18:07] <rohan> hi
[18:08] <antiquark> rohan: I'dont know about the keyboard. I'm not an expert
[18:09] <rohan> the other is that just after all the services get loaded up,my screen gets inverted
[18:09] <rohan> and after a few keystrokes it gets normal
[18:10] <rohan> and i get this error:The application KWin (kwin) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV).
[18:10] <khakane> i will gladly let someone login to this machine and look im about sick of messing with it
[18:11] <antiquark> rohan: maybe try and report the bug
[18:12] <rohan> maybe the problem exsists because i reinstalled kubuntu 2 times one over the other
[18:12] <rohan> khakane:good thing i did not upgrade to 4.2
[18:12] <rohan> ;D
[18:13] <antiquark> my 4.2 system works well
[18:14] <rohan> maybe you should help him
[18:15] <khakane> rohan: i did 2 machines upgraded to 4.2 with little hitches
[18:15] <khakane> this one... lol..
[18:15] <antiquark> I don't even know what's the problem
[18:15] <khakane> i login to kdm
[18:15] <rohan> ok the bug has already been reported
[18:15] <khakane> i hear the login sound, but still have the greyed out background, and a mouse cursor
[18:15] <khakane> thats as far as it goes
[18:16] <antiquark> by grayed out, you mean the wallpaper with the spirals?
[18:31] <The-Compiler> Happy new year to everyone | Allen ein schönes neues Jahr
[18:33] <rohan> happy new year from India
[18:33] <nop> in french : Bonne annee a tous
[18:39] <usbcesar> hi everybody
[18:40] <usbcesar> any here?
[18:47] <alinet> hay everyone
[18:47] <alinet> i have a problem in FF3
[18:47] <alinet> i cant play youtube
[18:47] <alinet> video
[18:47] <alinet> i downloaded the AFP
[18:47] <alinet> but not working
[18:47] <Shadeslayer> alinet:you have to install flash player first
[18:47] <Shadeslayer> ohh
[18:48] <alinet> i did that
[18:48] <Shadeslayer> from where did you install it
[18:48] <Shadeslayer> adept??
[18:48] <alinet> from adobe.com
[18:48] <alinet> i downloaded the package for ubuntu
[18:48] <alinet> and installed it
[18:49] <pretorian> ola
[18:49] <Shadeslayer> did you try it from synaptic??
[18:49] <alinet> yup i uninstalled it
[18:50] <pretorian> hola
[18:50] <pretorian> alguien de Madrid ?
[18:50] <alinet> fyi iam using KDE
[18:50] <bazhang> !es
[18:50] <Shadeslayer> no i meant did you try installing it through adept
[18:50] <alinet> yah
[18:50] <alinet> package manager
[18:50] <Shadeslayer> yes
[18:50] <alinet> i did that
[18:51] <alinet> now i will completey remove it
[18:51] <alinet> and install it again
[18:51] <Shadeslayer> that should have worked
[18:51] <alinet> i even restarted my pc
[18:51] <alinet> but useless
[18:51] <Shadeslayer> worked for me
[18:51] <alinet> thats good m8
[18:52] <alinet> when i access youtube it says that i dont have flash installed
[18:52] <alinet> flash player *
[18:52] <alinet> but i do
[18:53] <faunris> editbox -p $editbox(#) $+ $snick(#,1) $+ ,
[18:53] <Shadeslayer> did you install FF3 before or after flash??
[18:53] <faunris> блин
[18:53] <alinet> FF3 was alrady installed
[18:53] <alinet> then i installed flash
[18:53] <bazhang> !ru | faunris
[18:54] <Shadeslayer> there is a flash extension in adept specifically for FF3 try that
[18:54] <alinet> the problem appered on KDE desktop
[18:54] <alinet> when i was on Gnome it's ok
[18:54] <alinet> ok
[18:55] <hyper_ch> huhu
[18:57] <alinet> i will logout and in again
[18:57] <alinet> i installed it
[18:59] <afeijo> I cant watch DVD, Kafeine show my DVD introduction movie, and dont show the DVD menu! just black screen
[18:59] <Shadeslayer> afeijo:maybe a missing plugin
[18:59] <hyper_ch> afeijo: add "medibuntu" repos, install libdvdcss2
[19:00] <hyper_ch> afeijo: and possibly also w32codecs or w64codecs, depending on whether you run 32 or 64 bit
[19:00] <afeijo> its 64
[19:00] <afeijo> trying
[19:00] <schnuffi> or other codecs
[19:00] <hyper_ch> afeijo: then add the medibuntu repo and install the libdvdcss2 and w64codecs from ir
[19:00] <hyper_ch> it
[19:01] <afeijo> hyper_ch: I installed libdvdcss2, but w64codecs tell me that cant find that package
[19:01] <hyper_ch> afeijo: so you added medibuntu repo already?
[19:02] <alinet> hay i am back
[19:02] <afeijo> is it with apt-get ?
[19:02] <alinet> is this odd or is it me
[19:02] <alinet> i installed the package in Gnome GUI
[19:02] <alinet> and its ok
[19:02] <hyper_ch> afeijo: you know what a repository is?
[19:02] <afeijo> I have an idea :)
[19:02] <alinet> i came back to KDE it orks
[19:02] <alinet> works
[19:02] <alinet> its ok now
[19:02] <schnuffi> ;)
[19:03] <alinet> hayyyyyyyyyyy iam happy
[19:03] <alinet> lol
[19:05] <alinet> oh no
[19:05] <alinet> it appers blank
[19:05] <alinet> and does not play the video
[19:05] <alinet> in youtube
[19:05] <alinet> :(
[19:05] <afeijo> hyper_ch: I need to edit sources.list ?
[19:05] <hyper_ch> afeijo: yes
[19:06] <hyper_ch> afeijo: you know how to do that?
[19:06] <afeijo> yeah
[19:06] <alinet> whats the diffrence between Shockwave & flash player
[19:06] <alinet> ??
[19:06] <afeijo> I'm googling for the right deb http* line
[19:07] <hyper_ch> afeijo: you can use my tool if you want to
[19:08] <hyper_ch> afeijo: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch
[19:08] <hyper_ch> afeijo: :)
[19:10] <afeijo> cool
[19:11] <hyper_ch> afeijo: if your country is not in the list, just add it :)
[19:11] <hyper_ch> afeijo: I'm just too lazy to look up all the countries and abbreviations ;)
[19:11] <afeijo> it is
[19:12] <afeijo> I have that list, do you want?
[19:13] <hyper_ch> afeijo: nah, not necessary :)
[19:14] <afeijo> k
[19:14] <hyper_ch> afeijo: having other people adding countries will also let me know a bit where all the people come from
[19:14] <hyper_ch> afeijo: the only thing I log in the database is a page counter for the index site
[19:15] <hyper_ch> just adding 1 everytime the index page gets called :)
[19:16] <hyper_ch> actually I could add the page count somewhere :)
[19:19] <ghostcube> hmm anyone knows if its planned to backport the 180x drivers from nvidia to intrepid
[19:20] <hyper_ch> ghostcube: ask the package maintainer
[19:38] <Shadeslayer> hey this is a questionspcifically for M1530 owners: Can you get your function keys working in Kubuntu 8.10
[19:38] <Shadeslayer> *specifically
[19:39] <gilyu> holas
[19:40] <siki> m1530?
[19:40] <Shadeslayer> A dell XPS M1530
[19:40] <siki> ah
[19:40] <siki> ok
[19:41] <ubuntu> please important help! i have just removed some packages from my kubuntu and now i cannot get GUI :(
[19:41] <siki> on my vostro 1510 the keys are working
[19:41] <ubuntu> any idea??
[19:41] <ubuntu> i know the packages which i removed
[19:41] <m4v> ubuntu: try to install kubuntu-desktop from the terminal
[19:41] <hyper_ch> ubuntu: and that package was?
[19:41] <siki> the install them again
[19:41] <ubuntu> hyper_ch: this will reset my settings?
[19:41] <Shadeslayer> siki:well your keyboard has been specified in the regional prefrences
[19:42] <hyper_ch> ubuntu: ???
[19:42] <siki> so?
[19:42] <Shadeslayer> but ours has not been specified
[19:42] <ubuntu> i have compiz-fusion running etc
[19:42] <siki> specified?
[19:42] <witakr> hello folks
[19:42] <ubuntu> hyper_ch: with custom settings...these will be deleted?
[19:43] <witakr> can someone help me get my flash working? i can see vids on youtube or google
[19:43] <Shadeslayer> well there is drop down menu where various keyboard layouts are listed
[19:43] <witakr> i cant
[19:43] <hyper_ch> ubuntu: (1) I only asked what package you removed (2) why do you run compiz fusion on kde 4 (I assume you use 8.10)
[19:43] <Shadeslayer> the dell latitude and vostro keyboards are listed
[19:44] <siki> listed where?
[19:44] <Shadeslayer> while ours has not been listed
[19:44] <Shadeslayer> K>system settings>regional and language
[19:44] <siki> witakr: sudo apt-get flashplugin-nonfree
[19:44] <witakr> i did thqt
[19:44] <witakr> still no workie
[19:44] <Shadeslayer> keyboard layout
[19:45] <ubuntu> hyper_ch: open the Adept Package and search for "strigi".....i removed all packages which appears then..
[19:45] <Shadeslayer> there enable keyboard layouts
[19:45] <hyper_ch> ubuntu: so, you don't know what packages you removed
[19:45] <Shadeslayer> its listed under keyboard models
[19:46] <ubuntu> hyper_ch: i'm from live cd now
[19:46] <ubuntu> hyper_ch: so i see here the name of these packages
[19:46] <siki> ah Shadeslayer
[19:46] <khakane> anyone ever seen kubuntu when its booting and you see the kubuntu boot screen, where it just hangs?  if you move mouse, or hit a button on keyboard it keeps going
[19:46] <khakane> does it on shutdown as well
[19:46] <hyper_ch> ubuntu: reboot the system into recovery mode
[19:46] <hyper_ch> ubuntu: and reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[19:46] <siki> but my keys work with default settings
[19:46] <Shadeslayer> :O
[19:47] <siki> exept the stop key
[19:47] <ubuntu> hyper_ch: ok thank you
[19:47] <Shadeslayer> great,well mine dont AND the keyboard shuts off every 10 minutes
[19:47] <siki> hmm, cant help you
[19:47] <ubuntu> hyper_ch: and happy new year
[19:47] <ubuntu> hyper_ch: :)
[19:48] <Shadeslayer> i wish somebody could,all of my fuction keys except fn+F1 and the brightness control dont work
[19:49] <Shadeslayer> which keyboard is listed in ur menu
[19:50] <siki> ive just changed to dell latitude series laptoop and now the stop key is working too
[19:50] <Shadeslayer> good for you
[19:50] <siki> .)
[19:51] <khakane> i cant even find reports of this happneing..
[19:52] <siki> ?
[19:52] <Shadeslayer> i suppose they(Kubuntu developers) only consider Buisness and inspiron laptops as the best from dell
[19:52] <Shadeslayer> ?
[19:52] <siki> maybe
[19:52] <hyper_ch> Shadeslayer: what are you refering to?
[19:53] <Shadeslayer> khakanes comment
[19:53] <Shadeslayer> "i cant find......
[19:53] <hyper_ch> I still don't get it
[19:53] <Shadeslayer> oh got it
[19:53] <Shadeslayer> never mind
[19:53] <Shadeslayer> forget it
[19:53] <Shadeslayer> my bad
[19:55] <Shadeslayer> the only thing on my mind right now is to get this keyboard to work flawlessly
[19:55] <khakane> yea i dont get it either
[19:55] <xethx> What is a good program for burning Music DvDs?
[19:56] <hyper_ch> xethx: k3b
[19:57] <hyper_ch> xethx: or not sure what you mean by music dvds... maybe also devede
[19:58] <Shadeslayer> oh come on doesnt anybody have a XPS here???????
[19:58] <hyper_ch> Shadeslayer: not everyone uses dell
[19:58] <Shadeslayer> :(
[20:00] <Shadeslayer> fine but doesnt anybody have the same problem as me??not even one person
[20:04] <khakane> im really hating kubuntu on this laptop lol
[20:06] <Shadeslayer> same here
[20:08] <kevin_> Can anyone help with Jaspers.........>I am trying to get kopete to accept incoming video?
[20:10] <jkimes> I just loaded a fresh install of Kubuntu 8.10 and Adept will not load any of the canonical archives and won't show any availabe packages.  Does anyone know how to fix this?
[20:12] <Shadeslayer> jkimes:check your repos
[20:13] <JontheEchidna> jkimes: you could try running sudo update-apt-xapian-index
[20:16] <lex> bonsoir
[20:16] <jkimes> thanks, JontheEchidna, would that have anything to do with running behind a router?
[20:16] <JontheEchidna> jkimes: probably not
[20:17] <JontheEchidna> sometimes adept is lazy about updating the xapian index so you have to do it manually :P
[20:18] <jkimes> Gotcha, I think that worked, thanks a million, never would have found that on my own
[20:21] <jkimes> It successfully update the xapian index but still only shows installed packages and no available packages
[20:22] <JontheEchidna> I'd sudo apt-get update too
[20:22] <jkimes> k thanks, I'll try that
[20:25] <jkimes> Good to go, thanks!
[20:29] <khakane> ok everyone
[20:29] <khakane> i fixed all my problems
[20:29] <khakane> =D
[20:55] <aice> hey r there any cute straight guys out there?
[20:56] <BluesKaj> aice, plenty , but I think you're in the wrong chat :)
[21:05] <aice> y do u say that
[21:05] <antiquark> This is a support channel for Kubuntu, a linux distro
[21:06] <rohan> hey is the latest version of KDE 4.1.85???
[21:07] <antiquark> yes
[21:07] <rohan> antiquark:finally managed that update :D
[21:07] <aice> if u love to rp lets chat
[21:07] <antiquark> enjoy it rohan
[21:08] <rohan> hopefully,yes
[21:08] <antiquark> Shadeslayer: could you check if the rss, news or weather plasmoid works for you?
[21:08] <aice>  how loves to role play?
[21:08] <Shadeslayer> first thing after rebooting
[21:08] <aice> *who
[21:09] <antiquark> ok, thanks
[21:13] <Shadeslayer> checking the widgets out
[21:13] <Shadeslayer> the weather widget does not work
[21:14] <andypls1> what is the channel for webmaster support?
[21:16] <Shadeslayer> neither does the RSS tool
[21:16] <antiquark> Shadeslayer: Neither of the three I mentioned worked for me. I reported them to KDE but told me they work, so it must be that the Kubuntu packages are broken
[21:16] <Shadeslayer> looks like it
[21:16] <antiquark> Do you know where to report?
[21:16] <eagles0513875> !encryption
[21:17] <asobi> is there anything i need to do to upgrade?
[21:17] <Shadeslayer> yup the news channel does not work too
[21:17] <Shadeslayer> thats dissapointing
[21:18] <antiquark> asobi: read this http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2
[21:18] <eagles0513875> i need to encrypt my shoutcast files
[21:18] <eagles0513875> how do i do it
[21:18] <Shadeslayer> but i like the new KDE look,much more refined
[21:18] <asobi> not kde, gutsy
[21:18] <asobi> or is it the same thing?
[21:18] <antiquark> no its not
[21:19]  * asobi is still on 8.1
[21:19] <Shadeslayer> by refined i meant neater than 4.1
[21:20] <asobi> is it me or does it take longer to upgrade than fresh install?
[21:20] <antiquark> Shadeslayer: I wasn't telling you. Yes its more refined
[21:20] <Shadeslayer> :D
[21:20] <antiquark> asobi: If you can do a clean install
[21:20] <Shadeslayer> the ctrl+F8 works more smoothly,etc
[21:20] <asobi> well, if i do, won't i lose everything?
[21:21] <Shadeslayer> but my keyboard still sucks
[21:21] <antiquark> depends hoy you set your partitions
[21:22] <antiquark> *how
[21:22] <antiquark> if you have a seperate partition for /home you won't overwrite that
[21:22] <asobi> heh, i forget
[21:23] <khakane> now i just got 1 box where the intel audio is way too loud
[21:23] <khakane> leave that for another day
[21:23] <asobi> i guess upgrade it is
[21:24] <asobi> will anything break?
[21:24] <asobi> should i backup?
[21:24] <antiquark> asobi: sometimes it does
[21:24] <khakane> something always breaks ;)
[21:24] <asobi> i thought the idea of linux is to not break -_-
[21:25] <antiquark> asabi: you will pretty much be replacing every file on the system. There's a high probability that something goes wrong
[21:25] <asobi> wow
[21:25] <asobi> that could take a while
[21:25] <khakane> around an hour
[21:25] <asobi> so what if something breaks and i can't reboot
[21:25] <khakane> depending on connect speed
[21:26] <khakane> boot to recovery console
[21:26] <khakane> and fix it ;)
[21:26] <asobi> i am a newb
[21:26] <asobi> what's a recovery console
[21:26] <antiquark> khakane not very encouraging, are you
[21:26] <asobi> no no, it's good
[21:26] <asobi> i like to prepare for worst
[21:27] <khakane> antiquark: hah i just did 3 upgrades hardy -> intrepid and kde 4.1 -> 4.2
[21:27] <khakane> and something broke on each of them
[21:27] <antiquark> asobi, backup your important files
[21:27] <khakane> albeit, mainly broke on the kde upgrade
[21:27] <asobi> do i go from gutsy to intrepid?
[21:27] <khakane> asobi: id follow the upgrade path gutsy -> hardy -> intrepid
[21:27] <asobi> important files like?
[21:27] <antiquark> mine broke too, cause I hade koffice2 installed
[21:27] <asobi> so i have to do this twice??!!
[21:28] <antiquark> asobi: your documents and work
[21:28] <asobi> oh, those are on slave drive
[21:29] <antiquark> then there's nothing to worry about
[21:29] <khakane> im just gonna drop 2 pieces of knowledge here for anyone who wants to absorb it, since i had excessive problems that surely someone else will run into.
[21:29] <antiquark> if it breaks, format and install :)
[21:29] <asobi> ...
[21:29] <khakane> 1) if you boot up into kdm/gdm and you have no mouse/keyboard, you need to time the starting of kdm/gdm later than it is, around S30
[21:29] <asobi> i will lose programs and settings
[21:30] <khakane> 2) if you get what feels like IRQ hangups in the system, where you have to push a button on keyboard/mouse, you need to had nohz=off in your kernel load options
[21:30] <khakane> had=add
[21:30] <khakane> that's all :)
[21:31] <asobi> so i upgrade to hardy
[21:31] <asobi> then again to intrepid
[21:31] <asobi> what about kde?
[21:32] <asobi> i do all this in adept?
[21:32] <asobi> or do i do dist-upgrade
[21:37] <FisherPrice> !cups
[21:41] <FisherPrice> Hi, I've got an epson printer that worked in Hardy, but since I upgraded to Intrepid it won't detect it. I've tried looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers  but it isn't updated for Intrepid yet
[21:41] <FisherPrice> it's an Epson CX5500
[22:01] <amortvigil> hello i use kde 4.2 and i want to use kbfx, it installed properly but i cant use it
[22:01] <FisherPrice> Don't worry about my printer problem....... my usb connection was a bit out
[22:11] <amortvigil> hello i use kde 4.2 and i want to use kbfx, it installed properly but i cant use it
[22:19] <antiquark> amortvigil: I think it only works on KDE 3
[22:20] <amortvigil> antiquark, hmmmm
[22:20] <antiquark> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=24898
[22:20] <Eeyore-Jr> does anybody use kdenlive
[22:21] <amortvigil> antiquark, hmmm is it also possible to change the k menu icon?
[22:22] <antiquark> amortvigil: In KDE 4.2 I don't think so
[22:23] <amortvigil> antiquark, ahw:(
[22:24] <antiquark> amortvigil: However if you use Lancelot you can
[22:24] <Senior> Hii there,,happy new year
[22:24] <amortvigil> antiquark, lancelot isnt realy nice:(
[22:24] <Senior> I just wanna ask some questions
[22:25] <amortvigil> hi there happy new year to you too
[22:25] <khakane> 4.2 is pure ownage i cant believe how much is fixed in it
[22:25] <Senior> amortvigil can I ask you something??
[22:26] <antiquark> I didn't really like the new system tray
[22:26] <Senior> are you a good user for ubuntu
[22:26] <Senior> ?
[22:26] <khakane> si senior
[22:26] <Senior> si khakane
[22:27] <antiquark> It flickers a lot, the annoying icon background problem pops up sometimes, and the notifications are ugly
[22:27] <Senior> My ethernet driver is not working well and I donnoo whyyyyyyyy
[22:27] <Senior> I'm working now on the wireless connection
[22:28] <amortvigil> Senior, what does ifconfig say?
[22:28] <khakane> what does "not working well" mean
[22:28] <Senior> it works at some networks only
[22:28] <Senior> not all of them
[22:28] <khakane> antiquark: the best thing for me was FOlder View on desktop.
[22:28] <amortvigil> Senior, this is the first time that someone isnt getting his wired working thus asking it by wireless :P
[22:29] <khakane> to make it more like a real desktop and not a faux imitation
[22:29] <Senior> what can I do amortvigil??
[22:29] <amortvigil> Senior, ifconfig?
[22:30] <Senior> then what?
[22:30] <amortvigil> whats does it say at eth0?
[22:30] <Senior> sorry amort I'm a new user and I know alittle about ubuntu
[22:31] <antiquark> khakane: If you do folder view desktop, then you can't place plasmoids on it, right?
[22:31] <amortvigil> Senior, do you have ubuntu or kubuntu?
[22:31] <khakane> antiquark: incorrect, you can do both
[22:31] <Senior> Kubuntu
[22:31] <tupac> happy new......
[22:31] <khakane> er wait
[22:32] <khakane> antiquark: i think you are correct but i found this...
[22:32] <amortvigil> Senior, stupid question but do you have the cable wired?
[22:32] <khakane> if you are in Desktop view, and you turn your widgets or plasmoids on, then switch back to folder view, they are still there
[22:32] <antiquark> khakane: Yes that's what I did, and they are still there :)
[22:33] <Senior> yes of course but not at this moment
[22:33] <khakane> yea i was like, i KNOW i seen both at once hehe just couldnt remember how i did it
[22:33] <antiquark> khakane: But I prefer the Desktp mode, cause I want to see the contents of two different folders at the same time
[22:33] <khakane> well i guess you could have plasmoids for one or both
[22:34] <khakane> i just like to be able to manipulate files directly on the desktop and have shortcuts
[22:34] <khakane> and getting a shortcut working in desktop view can be trivial
[22:35] <antiquark> khakane: I can't switch back to Desktop mode!
[22:35] <khakane> whaaaa?
[22:35] <Senior> hey amortvigil where are youuuuu??
[22:35] <antiquark> khakane: If I right click on the desktop, Folder View settings is all I got
[22:35] <tupac> is 2009 :) hope 2 be good
[22:36] <antiquark> khakane: Appearings settings is gone
[22:36] <amortvigil> Senior, its old years eve...
[22:36] <khakane> antiquark: you dont get one that says Appearance Settings also?
[22:36] <antiquark> khakane: But I guess I can access it from system settings
[22:36] <khakane> antiquark: thats really weird its gone...
[22:36] <amortvigil> Senior, i cant help if not wired
[22:36] <antiquark> khakane: Since I switched to folder view, I don't get it
[22:38] <antiquark> khakane: I can't even find it in system settings
[22:39] <antiquark> that was a very unwise thing to do
[22:41] <khakane> 1 sec
[22:44] <antiquark> Now I killed plasma and started it again. Now All the plasmoids are gone and even the folder view. Folder View Settings is also gone from the context menu
[22:45] <Eeyore-Jr> i'm having trouble with raw1394 kernal module ?
[22:45] <Eeyore-Jr> anyone around to give me some advice
[22:47] <antiquark> khakane: It's OK now. I deleted the plasma config dir and restarted plasma
[22:48] <khakane> antiquark: yea oddly enough, there is no indication of the desktop settings - plasma workspace running
[22:48] <khakane> like a process or anything
[22:50] <khakane> its something getting sent to the plasma proc
[22:50] <antiquark> Tomorrow I'll see if someone has reported the bug
[22:51] <khakane> yea that is kinda strange, i know ive switched back and forth several times, at least on this load
[22:56] <bla_> LIst
[22:56] <bla_> list
[23:02] <Dr_willis_> Lust?
[23:02] <Ellana> happy new year :x
[23:02] <Dr_willis_> what do you expect from a list?
[23:15] <Senior> is any one here an expert in kubuntu??
[23:16] <Senior> is any one here an expert in kubuntu??
[23:17] <Senior> I have some questions about kubuntu
[23:20] <Tupac> I am thug :)
[23:20] <Ahmuck-Jr> hi.  what do i need to do to get raw1394 module loaded?
[23:20] <Tupac> Tell em bury me a g on everything I love
[23:21] <khakane> the best thing that happened to tupac .. a few slugs to the chest
[23:21] <khakane> and a funeral
[23:22] <Tupac> ubuntu  & kubuntu is the best
[23:24] <Tupac> Dont make enemies with me
[23:24] <Dr_willis_> BubbaBubtu
[23:24] <Dr_willis_> Senior,  why does your questions require an 'expert' ? Just ask them and see...
[23:25] <Senior> ok sir,,, I 've aproblem with the sound in my laptop
[23:25] <Senior> I installed kubuntu 8.10 recently
[23:26] <Senior> and a strange sound is played at the start up only
[23:26] <Senior> even mp3 produces no sound
[23:27] <Dr_willis_> mp3 playback requires addational codecs I belive. You may wish to intal the  'kubuntu-restricted-extras' and test with a .wav file to insure sound playback works.
[23:28] <Senior> I installed it but in vain
[23:28] <Dr_willis_> BRB - gotta reboots this box.
[23:44] <Senior> any body here??
[23:57] <ubuntu> hello all! happy new year!
[23:58] <Senior> helloo ,,, u too
[23:58] <ubuntu> i have a question before i jump into doing something i may regret.
[23:58] <Senior> about what?
[23:59] <ubuntu> i have a current windows xp install, and i want to install kubuntu along side, currently i have 10 gb open, if i set the partition at more then that where does the extra space come from?