[00:00] <nalioth> Slart: you can catalyze as well as anyone elsecan :)
[00:02] <Slart> doh.. and I was hoping I wouldn't have to.. much easier to hand it off to someone else =)
[00:02] <Flannel> I'm halfway done
[00:02] <Flannel> well, if one could ever be done ;)
[00:02] <Slart> hehe.. thanks
[00:58] <Jack_Sparrow> genii, I bought you a new coffee mug..  With a penguin on it
[00:58] <ferret_0567> Why was Firky banned from #ubuntu?
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> @login
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> @btlogin
[00:59] <nickrud_> ferret_0567, if firky wants to know that, he should ask himself. May be no one elses business ;)
[01:00] <ferret_0567> nickrud_: well, then I guess he doesn't want to know, because he's not coming in here
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> ferret_0567, We also need to know what his ip was/is
[01:00] <nickrud_> ferret_0567, no one bites
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud, I seem to think it was one of mine..  A real potty mouth if I remember
[01:01] <nickrud_> ah, one of those. I hate embarrassing those guys in front of others
[01:50] <Firky> Hello
[01:50] <Firky> Can i be  un-banned from #ubuntu please ?
[01:58] <Flannel> Firky: Do you know why you were banned?
[02:00] <Firky> yes
[02:00] <Firky> I have a friend here 
[02:00] <Firky> who asked for a bukkit
[02:00] <Firky> and they didnt like it 
[02:00] <Firky> so they banned
[02:01] <Firky> but i just need to ask question about sound not working with ubuntu
[02:01] <Firky> ?
[02:02] <Flannel> Firky: the truth is generally easier than lying about it
[02:05] <Firky> well, yeah OK. I acted like an idiot in there previously and now I'm wishing I hadn't as I'm having some issues i'd really like some help with, 
[02:07] <Flannel> Can I get you to read over the following two documents, and agree to try and follow them? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Flannel, HE was very disruptive.. the walrus guy
[02:14] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: I know, I was there
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[02:18] <Flannel> What on earth is going on in -ot?
[02:19] <Flannel> I *know* some of those guys have seen girls before, yet their current behavior says otherwise.
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Flannel, He is sending me rude pm's
[02:19] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: Who?
[02:19] <Firky> I have read and understood both documents. As a result you can be assure no such troubel wil occure agian
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Firky, 
[02:19] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: right now?
[02:19] <Firky> What???
[02:19] <Firky> no
[02:20] <Firky> i  do not communicate via private messaging
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Firky, <Firky> You are not, at present, helping the matter
 Neither are you .. keep it in ops..
 shut it
 im trying to get unbanned ytou moron
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Leave the ban in place
[02:20] <Firky> wtf
 You are not, at present, helping the matter
 Neither are you .. keep it in ops..
 shut it
 im trying to get unbanned ytou moron
 you cant post PRIVATE messages
 in a PUBLIC chat room
 its illegal
  i will have you jailed for this
[02:22] <Flannel> Firky: Again, lying about something isn't the best way to get unbanned.  He wasn't telling me anything I didn't already know about you, since we keep logs.
 its a privacy breech
 how would you feel of your PRIVATE phone conversations been posting all over the internet/
 now apologise 
 and tell everyone what you posted was a lie
[02:22] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: You can stop, honest ;)
[02:24] <Flannel> Firky: I suggest you take a break, perhaps re-read those documents tomorrow or something; perhaps you'll have a better understanding of what they mean.
[02:26] <Flannel> We fully acknowledge that people make mistakes, which is why I was going to believe that you recognize it as a mistake and unban you.  However your behavior today has shown me that you're not actually ready to rejoin our channel.
[02:28] <Firky> Very well, you're terms do appear reasonable under the circumstances, 
[02:28] <Flannel> What an odd cookie.
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed..
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry for the paste, but he would not stop in pm
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> FYI, I bought yuo a penguin coffee mug
[02:29] <Flannel> You mentioned that the other day.  I'm flattered, an looking forward to drinking out of the head of a mascot.
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> I'll let you know when I am heading north for something
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl
[02:31] <Flannel> On another note, -offtopic needs someone to keep an eye on it.
[02:31] <Flannel> I'm off to upgrade from Dapper to Hardy.  Hopefully I'll be back soon enough.
[02:31] <Flannel> bazhang_: you've got an underscore
[02:32] <bazhang> flannel thanks
[02:32] <bazhang> oops
[02:51] <nickrud> the people with ops in -ot can keep it
[02:52] <bazhang> haha
[02:52] <nickrud> I've been urging the council to give ops to you bazhang :)
[02:52] <bazhang> nickrud, that would a permanent +m a la Myrrti :)
[02:52] <bazhang> err mean
[03:44] <Flannel> PriceChild: He was k-lined
[03:44] <nickrud> hm, watching you and myrtii go at it is a good enough reason for it, bazhang 
[03:44] <PriceChild> So they were.
[03:45] <PriceChild> myrtti and bazhang have been what?!
[03:45] <bazhang> Flannel, you're back!
[03:45] <bazhang> thought my underscore made you quit
[03:45] <Flannel> I am!
[03:45] <Flannel> I'm on Hardy now!
[03:45] <Flannel> How long was I gone?
[03:45] <bazhang> PriceChild, what!
[03:45] <nalioth> bazhang: your ban is no longer necessary
[03:46] <nalioth> it was part of a pR0n spam ring
[03:46] <bazhang> when myrtti goes all +m and talks about fluffy pink unicorns in -ot it is pretty funny
[03:46] <bazhang> nalioth, okay will remove
[03:48] <PriceChild> Someone gave me a 10 day trial of WoW. So, I'm off! Its been good knowing you, see you around sometime!
[03:48] <bazhang> haha
[04:23] <Flannel> ubottu: tell terli about conduct
[04:27] <Flannel> He's certainly walking the line in -ot, if anyone cares to glance in
[04:31] <Flannel> already klined
[04:32] <nalioth> ubottu tell terli about botabuse
[05:21] <nickrud> what's with this angelina24?
[05:21] <stdin> on-join spam I think
[05:22] <nickrud> yeah, but it keeps coming back. 
[05:22] <stdin> judging by all the staff /cycle'ing
[05:22] <stdin> it keeps getting k-lined and coming back
[05:22] <stdin> [05:22]* Angelina24-Cam has quit (K-lined)
[05:22] <nickrud> wouldn't a name ban work, since it's the same name?
[05:23]  * nickrud is irc deficient
[05:24] <stdin> probably
[05:24] <nickrud> PriceChild, are they being caught automatically now?
[05:26] <PriceChild> nickrud: However its done, we're doing our best to deal with them.
[05:27] <nickrud> PriceChild, so then I can ignore any ref's to angelina for now?
[05:27] <PriceChild> nickrud: any ref's?
[05:27] <nickrud> op calls I mean. And I can see from scrollback that you all have been struggling with these .... for a while
[05:31] <PriceChild> Probably best not to ignore op calls if you have the time.
[05:31] <nickrud> do I ban them? ban by name? ban, then unban? or, ban and let you all unban later?
[05:31] <PriceChild> I guess it can't hurt #ubuntu to ban the nick.
[05:32] <nickrud> done
[05:35] <nickrud> um, I gott research that, like I've always said I'm irc illiterate and survive by seveas's work. If someone does it by memory, please do
[05:36] <Flannel> its %Angelina24-Cam!*@*  right?
[05:37] <nickrud> hm, did it without the %
[05:37] <PriceChild> % mutes
[05:37] <PriceChild> That isn't very helpful in this situation, seen as they join and don't say anything in the channel.
[05:38] <PriceChild> without the % means they can't join the channel, don't see the users joining and don't spam
[05:38] <nickrud> gotta read the ubuntu women irc stuff, that's where I found by cheat code 
[05:38] <nickrud> *my
[05:40] <Flannel> Ah.
[05:41] <nickrud> login
[05:41] <nickrud> btlogin
[05:41] <nickrud> @btlogin
[06:24] <stdin> nickrud: #ubuntu n=Watermel pD95DE8D4.dip.t-dialin.net irc.freenode.net waterme H :0 Watermelon Storm
[06:25] <waterme> Sigh.
[06:25] <waterme> I can't change my nick.
[06:25] <elkbuntu> waterme, why was that bot in #ubuntu?
[06:26]  * waterme shrugs.
[06:26]  * nickrud watches
[06:26] <waterme> Well, I've sent it there.
[06:26] <waterme> But it's not evil.
[06:26] <waterme> I can send you the source code if you want.
[06:26] <waterme> C++, using PTypes library.
[06:26] <stdin> that's not the point
[06:26] <waterme> I know.
[06:26] <elkbuntu> i think it is quite evil to have auto-greet on a 1200 person channel that averages a join every 15 seconds
[06:26] <waterme> They aren't allowed, rightß
[06:26] <nickrud> waterme, do you realize how much that would spam that channel?
[06:26] <waterme> *?
[06:26] <stdin> the question is "why" not "what"
[06:27] <waterme> I probably need to go soon, anyways.
[06:28] <waterme> Sorry.
[06:28] <elkbuntu> please keep your bots out of #ubuntu channels.
[06:28] <waterme> Can you recommend me a channel where I can try them?
[06:28] <stdin> you should always ask the channel ops if you can bring a bot in to their channel, regardless of ubuntu channel policy
[06:28] <elkbuntu> there's a few bot channels. your client will have a channel search.
[06:33] <WatermelonStorm> I needed to log in.
[06:33] <WatermelonStorm> Better now.
[06:55] <elkbuntu> since you're now aware to keep personal bots out of ubuntu channels, and do not seem to have any other issues or questions, we ask you to leave to keep this channel clear of idlers, so we know who to help.
[09:57] <phix> ;hey
[09:57] <phix> LjL: you in?
[10:06] <ikonia> what's up phix 
[10:11] <ikonia> phix: do you need help with something ?
[10:13] <phix> hey
[10:13] <ikonia> hello
[10:13] <ikonia> what's up
[10:14] <phix> I want to congrats LjL for being an awesome op for 2008
[10:14] <phix> as well as the rest of you
[10:14] <phix> good job
[10:14] <ikonia> ok, I'll pass that on
[10:14] <phix> keep it up for '09
[10:14] <ikonia> no problem, I'll pass that on
[10:14] <phix> great
[10:15] <ikonia> anything else ?
[10:15] <phix> I am sure they can scroll up too :P but if not, repeat :)
[10:15] <ikonia> ok
[10:15] <phix> yes ikonia, there is.
[10:15] <ikonia> what's up ?
[10:15] <bazhang> phix, are you banned in #ubuntu ?
[10:15] <phix> I don't wish to idle
[10:15] <phix> bazhang: no, I just wanted to thank you guys / gurls for an awesome service
[10:16] <ikonia> phix: as said, thank you and I'll pass that on
[10:16] <ikonia> you said there was something else ?
[10:16] <phix> ikonia: yes, I just want to keep the conversation going so I am not idleing :)
[10:16] <phix> I like being in this channel
[10:17] <ikonia> phix: well, there isn't a conversation to be had, so if you have nothing else you need from us, it would be great if you could leave
[10:17] <phix> :(
[10:17] <ikonia> ubuntu-offtopic is available for chatter
[10:17] <phix> ok, I guess I will see you in #ubuntu then, of #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:17] <ikonia> ok
[10:17] <ikonia> thank you for the compliment
[10:18] <phix> any time, keep it up, bye bye
[10:18] <ikonia> bye
[10:19] <elkbuntu> right, so this is the start of the emotional drunks?
[10:19] <ikonia> ha ha
[10:19]  * elkbuntu goes to get the flaksuit for when the aggressive drunks come out to play
[10:41] <gnomefreak> is vote bot ourS?
[10:41] <Flannel> Where?
[10:41] <Flannel> is that in -bots?
[10:42] <gnomefreak> Flannel: my pm
[10:42] <Flannel> I see
[10:42] <gnomefreak> VoteBot> A meeting is currently in progress in....
[10:44] <bazhang> ##beginners-classroom  seems to do with ubuntuforums
[10:44] <gnomefreak> can we get owner to not PM from bot
[10:44] <bazhang> nhandler seems to be the owner
[10:45] <gnomefreak> i saw that too but i dont know him
[10:45] <gnomefreak> or her
[10:46] <bazhang> nathan
[10:46] <jussio1> nhandler is a Motu
[13:49] <king> bazhang, The ban is still not lifted. I had connected from home yesterday and thought it was gone!
[13:49] <king> LjL, Would you please lift the ban on my IP?
[13:55] <jpds> king: L.jl is idle : 2 days 7 hours.
[13:55] <jpds> He might have gone on holiday somewhere..
[13:57] <king> jpds, Forcing me to go on a holiday as well!
[14:02] <king> Can some OP temporarily lift the IP ban from this IP, so that I can talk on Ubuntu, and then finally settle the issue with Ljl when he comes?
[14:02] <elkbuntu> at this point, i dont know what the ban is about, so until i have that information i cannot make such a judgement
[14:03] <king>  I am behind a huge NAT 1000+ machines. And James a freenode staffer got this information that my IP is banned because a unregistered user called qstnn trolled the channel on ~15December.
[14:03] <king> elkbuntu, ^
[14:04] <elkbuntu> i cannot see your nat, because you are cloaked.
[14:04] <elkbuntu> hence, i cannot check the validity of this.
[14:04] <king> elkbuntu, Should I give you my IP in a PM?
[14:05] <king> elkbuntu, But you can surely see the Ubuntu ban list near 15th december about a IP ban on a user called qstnn and find out my IP?
[14:06] <elkbuntu> what is this large nat for? i really detest the thought of allowing a free-for-all for 1000+ potential trolls
[14:08] <king> elkbuntu, educational institute.
[14:08] <king> elkbuntu, I think I am exaggerating, lets say there are about ~700 machines.
[14:08] <king> elkbuntu, The ban can always be re-imposed.
[14:09] <elkbuntu> elkbuntu, on the second-busiest troll day of the year?
[14:09] <elkbuntu> where the first is a shared tie of the two release days
[14:10] <king> elkbuntu, My IP has been banned since real real long. Please take all the factors into consideration.
[14:11] <elkbuntu> i am. your exaggeration and claiming the ip to be 'yours' makes it hard though
[14:12] <elkbuntu> sounds like a convoluted version of 'my brother did it'
[14:12] <elkbuntu> you havent even said what educational institute it is, or why you're using an educational institute's facilities at this time of the year
[14:14] <elkbuntu> and judging by the ip, at this time of night.
[14:18] <elkbuntu> seriously though, we can make exemptions, but we have to know where to report abuse to if it's such an extremely abusable system.
[14:21] <elkbuntu> king, i'm trying to help you here, but you're not responding
[14:24] <king> elkbuntu, Sorry, I was out, trying to get a GPS fix on my Openmoko Neo.
[14:27] <king> elkbuntu, I don't think I will have to tell you about why I am here, what place this is, and why I am here at this time of the day!
[14:27] <elkbuntu> king, and i dont have to lift that ban.
[14:28] <king> elkbuntu, I know, if you said you were trying to help, you surely wouldn't have asked questions like what I am doing here at this time of the day!
[14:30] <jpds> elkbuntu: The ban is on the BT as "qstnn".
[14:30] <elkbuntu> jpds, i know what it's under
[14:30] <elkbuntu> i am trying to help, but i'm not going to give out a free pass to a large number of machines undisclosed place that i cannot contact to report abuse.
[14:34] <king> elkbuntu, Would you not lift the ban if I don't provide you details like what is the name of this place, why I am here at this time of the day!, etc?
[14:34] <king> elkbuntu, Why breach my piracy. Let us work this out without any further abuse to me.
[14:35] <Nafallo> privacy?
[14:35] <king> Nafallo, <elkbuntu> you havent even said what educational institute it is, or why you're using an educational institute's facilities at this time of the year
 and judging by the ip, at this time of night.
[14:36] <Nafallo> hmm. oki.
[14:36]  * Nafallo shrugs and goes back to his own channels
[14:36] <elkbuntu> king, all i want is the name of the institution so that i know who to approach if the 700-1000 computers you say i will be letting in, go crazy.
[14:36] <elkbuntu> that does not identify you personally
[14:37] <king> elkbuntu, May I PM you?
[14:37] <elkbuntu> you may
[14:54] <king> elkbuntu, here?
[15:26] <elkbuntu> king, the ban is lifted. behave.
[15:27] <king> elkbuntu, Thank you.
[15:29] <elkbuntu> it amazes me that 'a k-12 school in india' is personal information. i mean, there must be like so so few for the whole billion people there and all.
[15:44] <elkbuntu> and he's not uttered a single word since he rejoined there...
[18:25] <bazhang> eleos2 is sken?
[18:25] <bazhang> * eleos2 (n=chatzill@athedsl-351153.home.otenet.gr) has joined #ubuntu
[18:29] <ikonia> yup
[18:32] <bazhang> k
[18:33] <ikonia> hop-frog is jrib ?
[18:35] <bazhang> really?
[18:35] <ikonia> dunno, look at ident
[18:35] <bazhang> wow
[18:35] <bazhang> and I just hit him for nickspam
[18:36] <ikonia> maybe, maybe not
[18:36] <bazhang> :/
[21:56]  * jpds looks at the SpongeBob.
[21:56] <SpongeBob> silly boys
[21:56]  * SpongeBob = Gary
[21:56] <jpds> Je sais ça.
[21:58] <Nafallo> nice comic
[22:02] <jpds> Nafallo: XKCD?
[22:03] <Nafallo> http://www.angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif
[22:04] <PriceChild> Thought I'd mention it as I didn't publically yesterday. Got ubottu to ignore terli for 48 hours yesterday. I believe he's long gone now though.
[22:48] <TiredWolf> happy 9002
[22:48] <TiredWolf> be good to the ubuntu users from alpha centauri
[22:49] <jpds> TiredWolf: Likewise!
[22:56]  * jussi01 waves to TiredWolf
[23:02] <TiredWolf> boom boom boom
[23:02] <TiredWolf> cheap fireworks these year
[23:11] <TiredWolf> jussi01: did you expect 2009 to like make mikem not slow?
[23:11] <TiredWolf> that's really way to much to expect from a new year
[23:12] <jussi01> TiredWolf: well I was...err... hoping... one is allowed rto hope, no?
[23:12] <TiredWolf> jussi01: uhm, yes. for a couple of minutes that's acceptable, now stop though.
[23:13] <jussi01> hehe
[23:19] <TiredWolf> sponge gary!
[23:19] <Flannel> GaryBob?
[23:19] <Gary> rawr
[23:23] <TiredWolf> Gary: don't rawr at me when i've drunk
[23:23] <Gary> when i've drunk?  lol
[23:24] <TiredWolf> Gary: no, when *i* have drunk
[23:24] <Gary> hic
[23:24] <TiredWolf> Gary: i, becomes you, when you're talking about me after i've talked about myself
[23:24] <TiredWolf> it's how pronouns work