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sri_barencenikolam: sorry, i tried the suspend debugging process recommended at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend00:03
sri_barenceIt disabled my wireless card!00:04
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nikolamsri_barence, why would you do that. I just told you to install fglrx driver from ati site to enable suspend/resume working..00:19
nikolamwhat ati card/chip do you use?00:19
sri_barenceATI Radeon Xpress 200M00:20
nikolamThat is the same as Xpress 115000:22
nikolamhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xpress_200#Radeon_Xpress_200M00:22
sri_barenceIt looks like I have the Catalyst 8.54 driver.00:23
nikolamThere is Xpress 200 on http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html00:23
nikolam8.54 is ok. But you could upgrade to eather 8.9 or 8.12 and suspend/resume will work00:24
nikolamI use x1250 myself00:24
sri_barence"Later renamed as Radeon Xpress 1150 for AMD notebooks"00:25
nikolamjust download 8.12 and see istructions depending on your ubuntu version00:27
nikolamhttp://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html00:27
nikolamsh ati-driver-installer-8-12-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/intrepid   (Or hardy)00:28
nikolamamd then install deb`s you have it here: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu00:29
nikolamYou might go to #ati channel for support for fglrx driver.00:29
sri_barenceIf I understand correctly, the installer will make a deb with that command?00:34
sri_barenceAnd then I can install with 'dpkg -i'?00:34
nikolamsri_barence, Yes, that is the point. So you can use other version if you want if that does not work for you00:37
nikolamI suggest you intall 8.9 version, I used it nicely. Avoid 8.10 and 8.11 .   8.12 works, too00:38
sri_barenceno caps on 'intrepid'?00:39
nikolamno00:39
nikolamit is command line switch00:39
sri_barenceok. I'm going for 8.1200:39
nikolamgood luck. And for fglrx, go to #ati channel00:39
sri_barenceso "Ubuntu/intrepid"00:40
sri_barenceshould I uninstall xorg-driver-fglrx first00:40
nikolamOk, go to #ati for further Proprietary driver support.00:42
sri_barenceOK. I'm running the experiment now...00:46
sri_barencenikolam: still here?03:09
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tangentcollisionhow do I check what driver I have for my wlan card?05:26
tangentcollisionbecause if I have ath5k, I'd like to install madwifi-ng05:27
balltangentcollision: dmesg?05:27
tangentcollisionoh, nevermind05:28
tangentcollisionairmon-ng told me :P05:29
ballok05:36
tangentcollisionalright, that settles my problem05:36
tangentcollisionnow I have another05:37
tangentcollisionhow do I unmount the main partition so I can split it?05:38
ballthe / partition?05:39
ballI imagine you'd have to boot single-user to do that, if it's possible.05:39
ball...or boot from a liveCD, then / from your hard disk isn't automatically mounted (I hope!)05:42
tangentcollision:P05:49
tangentcollisiongreat05:50
tangentcollisionI'm on eeexubuntu...05:50
tangentcollisionand I don't know, it won't mount correctly any of my thumb drive media :P05:50
ballI would love an Eeebox, but I can't afford one.05:50
ball...and I think the CPU lacks one or two features that I would like.05:52
ballGive it time, someone will build the machine I want.05:52
tangentcollisionlol05:53
tangentcollisionan eeepc is a great thing05:53
ball...might even be me.05:53
tangentcollisionI have a platapus bag05:53
tangentcollisionand it fits perfectly under my hoodie05:53
ballEeePC would be nice, but I was looking mostly at desktops05:53
tangentcollisionwell, eeexubuntu is for...eeepc...05:54
balloh05:54
ballDid they fix the dialogue boxes to fit the screen then?05:54
tangentcollisionnot really05:55
tangentcollisionit's a tiny screen with a stupid res05:55
tangentcollisionbut I don't really car05:55
tangentcollisione05:55
tangentcollisionit lets me audit my company's security occasionally05:55
tangentcollisionwhether they want me to or not05:55
ballI bypassed ours on the first day I was there.05:56
tangentcollisionlol05:56
tangentcollisionpretty much ditto05:56
ballhad too really, how can I be a Web developer with no access to the Web?!05:56
tangentcollisionwell, I sit in the server room and make sure there's an ambiguous amount of security05:57
tangentcollisionso I shut down people's iphones :P05:57
ballDo you wear a fleece all day?05:57
tangentcollisionI wear my hoodie all day05:57
tangentcollisiondid ...05:57
tangentcollisionI got laid off05:58
tangentcollisionI wish I could take the off part out05:58
ballI got laid off too.05:58
ballWork three days a week at my internship site, but I hate it.05:58
tangentcollisionever heard of applied software?05:58
tangentcollisionthey do autocad05:59
tangentcollisionthey picked me up out of highschool and put me on the security team05:59
tangentcollisionand I fixed their crap05:59
tangentcollisionand maintained it05:59
tangentcollisionthen laid me off05:59
tangentcollisionand I took my security with me05:59
tangentcollisionI might as well not have been there :P05:59
tangentcollisionI'll see if backtrack3 will partition for me06:01
tangentcollisionhmm06:35
tangentcollisionsomething is just f'ing wrong with this install of xubuntu06:35
tangentcollisionI can't edit my partitions06:35
ballthat's normal06:53
ballafaik06:53
balltangentcollision: why are you trying to split /06:54
ball?06:54
tangentcollisionI'm trying to get an extra 1gb partition in there so I can boot backtrack3 from it06:54
ballwhat is backtrack3?06:55
tangentcollisionbacktrack 3 is a security auditing tool06:55
ball...and it needs its own partition?06:56
ballWierd.06:56
tangentcollisionwell06:57
tangentcollisionI can't get grub to use it :P06:57
tangentcollisionit only comes in live kernel06:57
tangentcollisionand it uses a lilo loader06:57
ballAh, so you want to put lilo in backtrack partition's boot record and then have grub chain lilo?06:58
tangentcollisionyeah06:58
tangentcollisionthe live kernel uses the lilo loader, I can't really seperate it06:59
tangentcollisionso, I'm thinking I can just point it to the partition and do chainloader +106:59
tangentcollisionand let it rip06:59
tangentcollisionhup06:59
tangentcollisionI think it's doing it06:59
tangentcollisiongo gparted, goooo07:00
tangentcollisionI know you can do it!07:00
tangentcollisionif nothing else, I can just reinstall eeexubuntu and tell it not to use everything on that drive07:00
ballIf it's any consolation, my garbage is blowing down the street.07:01
tangentcollision(it uses an sdhc card, 16gb)07:01
tangentcollisionhey, it shrunk my crap!07:02
tangentcollisionyay07:02
tangentcollisionnow I can NOT run off the livecd installation thingy from usb1.0 stick07:06
tangentcollisionthat just makes me aaaangryyyy07:06
tangentcollision>.>07:06
tangentcollision<.<07:06
tangentcollisionhulk...smash...*sulks away*07:06
* ball nods07:07
* tangentcollision nods*07:07
ballI have a net PC box that's supposed to boot from USB, but doesn't07:07
EarlJrI've got a slight issue with networking on my xubuntu install08:08
EarlJrevery time I reboot, it defaults to a dhcp08:09
EarlJrhow can I make my static ip settings stick?08:09
ablomenEarlJr, /etc/network/interfaces08:20
ablomenand /etc/resolv.conf08:20
EarlJrhmm08:29
EarlJrI think that my get it08:29
EarlJrthank you ablomen08:30
admalleddhello, i am trying to route a port thorough my (new) server to my other computer and was wondering how? google wasnt of much help. all of this must be done through ssh (i have x forwarding). the setup is as follows: internet-->router(cant change fowarded ports here)-->server(192.168.1.12)-->data box(192.168.1.13#21)08:55
admalledd**-->data box(192.168.1.13:21)08:55
ablomenwhy cant you change ports on the router if i might ask?09:01
ablomen(and btw, port 21 is used by ftp, should be 22 or a different, not commonly used port)09:02
admalleddbecause of the number of people, each person can only have 5 ports, and to one comp. (admin doesnt want more than 15 ports open)09:03
ablomenah ok, well you might want too look at iptables09:03
admalleddwell, 21 80 and 1980 ,1981 ,1982 are my ports09:03
ablomeni think you can achieve what you want with that09:03
admalleddok, but i thought modifying iptables while in ssh would break connection?09:04
ablomenehm yeah it might09:04
admalledddo i just not worry and reconnect?09:05
admalleddbecause pulling server out of wall is a pain09:05
ablomeni must say i dont have too much experience with iptables, so i really wouldnt know09:06
admalleddmeh, google will now be my friend. :)09:06
admalleddill be back if i cant figure it out by tommorow09:06
admalleddthx all!09:06
ablomenbut i dont see another good way too do it, exept maybe just ssh-ing into the server and then into the box itself09:06
ablomenah09:07
ablomenok09:07
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jarnosIs it hard job to install latest Xfce to Intrepid? Do you have to remove Xubuntu's Xfce first?10:49
knomejarnos, there's a ppa with beta1, but beta2 is the newest.10:49
jarnosknome: where? I would like to debug xfce4-mixer.10:50
knomejarnos, sec10:50
knomejarnos, https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive10:52
jarnosknome: thanks10:53
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Krillinhey yo guys. here is a weiiird problem... I'm using pyNeighborhood to mount shared partitions through my computers. Ok, that's great, I have used it before and it was ok, but now I just cant send any file, it crashes my Thunar after 1 minute of transfer, can anyone give me a light? Thank you!14:03
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crazygirI really don't understand this.. but I am *still* having issues trying to install xubuntu17:03
crazygirI've tried different cds, cd media (cdr/cdrw), burners, readers, systems (to install on), isos, mirrors, etc17:04
crazygirall have had errors, different errors, but all of them have errors..17:04
crazygirany suggestions? I've gone this far because I'd rather use xubuntu than any of the kde/gnome variants17:05
romanov_crazygir -> I had the same problem try to burn you cd with low speed17:13
crazygir4x is pretty low :P17:16
crazygirromanov_: ^17:17
romanov_:)17:17
crazygirI have heard that errors are common, I've also talked to people that "have had no problems"17:19
crazygirso I really don't know what to think17:19
romanov_I gess your downloaded version is not ok ? check it in the startind of the livecd ... try again17:20
crazygirI have yet to have *any* problems with these burners, media, or systems, wrt downloading isos and trying installs17:20
crazygirromanov_: I've tried a number of different isos (including desktop/alternate) from various mirrors17:20
crazygir*all* have had some problem17:20
romanov_humm17:20
crazygirnot the same problems, but all have had some issue that prevents me from installing17:20
crazygirthe farthest that I got was starting to install packages17:21
crazygirbut then ran into corrupt .debs17:21
sinboxweird17:22
crazygiryea17:22
crazygirit makes me want to scream :P17:22
romanov_strange ... maybe your harddisk is not ok ?17:23
crazygirromanov_: ?17:23
crazygirI've tried 3 different systems anyway17:24
crazygir2 different ones to create the install cd, 2 different ones to install17:24
romanov_you mean that ubuntu / kubuntu install correctly17:25
crazygirno, I haven't tried (though I'm downloading a ubuntu iso right now)17:26
crazygirI don't really want k/ubuntu17:26
crazygirhence trying xubuntu :)17:26
romanov_yeah me too17:26
crazygirI'm trying *another* cdrw, brand new17:27
crazygirI had just tried a brand new cdr17:27
romanov_if you are in tunisia i will provide you a xubuntu cd :)17:27
sam__chaps, my resolution isn't listed in nvidia-settings - lcd doesn't seem to get detected properly - how can I add the correct rez?17:27
crazygirwhich gave me an I/O error: error reading boot cd17:28
crazygirnah, us17:28
sam__it's like it ignores xorg.conf17:28
* sam__ continues googling17:28
crazygirsam__: do you have it set, explicitly in xorg.conf?17:28
sam__the conf is generic17:29
crazygirso try setting it explicitly17:29
sam__but the optimum rez in nvidia console isn't listed17:29
crazygirso what17:29
crazygirdefine *your* optimum resolution for xorg17:29
crazygirscrew the nvidia console17:29
sam__that's what I thought, but it seems the nvidia settings take precedence17:30
crazygirit doesn't appear to know what you need17:30
sam__I need 1280x76817:30
crazygirso don't use the nvidia settings17:30
crazygirdisable them.17:30
sam__the xfce rez settings seem useless17:30
sam__offering only 800x60017:30
crazygirsam__: SET it EXPLICITLY, yourself, in xorg.conf17:30
* sam__ disables nvidia driver17:30
sam__is there a sample xorg.conf anywhere?17:31
crazygiron your system?17:31
crazygiron the interwebz :)17:31
sam__the web isn't helping, it all seems to amazingly complicated17:31
sam__not sure of the syntax17:31
crazygirsam__: man17:31
crazygirsam__: you have an xorg.conf to use17:31
crazygirjust trim down the resolution settings17:31
sam__yes, it's got little in it17:31
sam__doesn't even list resolutions17:31
crazygireducate yourself.17:31
crazygirman, google.17:32
sam__have been, time consuming17:32
sam__not feeling I'm getting anywhere17:32
crazygirit's time well-spent17:32
sam__feel like I have to reinvent the wheel17:32
crazygiryou are if you are learning :)17:32
crazygirnope17:32
crazygirthe wheel has already been invented17:32
sam__I'll bleed over it for a little longer then17:33
crazygir:)17:33
crazygirlook at *real* xorg confs17:33
crazygirnot what ubuntu has17:33
crazygirlook at the man page17:33
sam__right17:33
crazygirand see if others have similar problem17:33
crazygir*s17:33
charlie-tcahttps://help.ubuntu.com/ and type in xorg.conf in the upper right search box17:33
sinboxif you're gonna play wiotrh xorg.conf back it up first though sam__ :) also this may help (or not): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution17:35
sam__yes, I'm backing it up each time17:35
crazygiryou should *always* make a copy of a conf when making changes17:35
sam__I think the problem is that my lcd isn't detected17:35
crazygirusing a rc setup is even better17:35
crazygirsam__: that's ok17:36
crazygirif you know the correct res and syncs, you can set it yourself17:36
crazygirsam__: #xorg (or whatever it is) might help too17:36
sam__great, thanks17:36
crazygirhmm... getting a little further in the install than before.. actually have the gui this time17:37
sinboxwhere woudl you go look for the res and syncs for a particualr monitor model?17:37
crazygirmaybe those isos don't like disk at once..17:37
crazygirsinbox: your lcd manual17:37
crazygirlcds have a "happy" res/sync17:37
sinboxwell, I would if I had a manual for it crazygir :0, which I guess leaves me the manufacturer's website and hoping they have a decnet support past to their site then17:38
crazygiryes17:38
crazygiror google17:38
crazygir:)17:38
crazygirw00t I have a gui installer17:39
crazygirI really don't get this..17:40
crazygirmaybe there should be iso burning instructions on the official website?17:43
crazygirgiven that dao doesn't produce a working iso17:43
crazygirerr.. working cd17:43
crazygiror maybe the iso creation process should play nice with dao17:44
charlie-tcaYou mean like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto , crazygir ?17:45
crazygiron the xubuntu site17:45
crazygirlike, right next to where you get info on downloading the iso17:45
charlie-tcaGood point! I can bring that up to the website guys.17:46
crazygirand still, there is nothing in there about dao or sao17:46
charlie-tcaMaybe they don´t work?17:47
crazygirI had to use sao (not dao) to get this to work17:47
crazygirif that is in fact true, that should be documented17:47
charlie-tcaI would think following what is documented would work.17:49
crazygircharlie-tca: that is what I'm saying, there is no mention of sao or dao17:49
charlie-tcaBut there is makeiso17:49
charlie-tcamkisofs , rather17:50
crazygirI'm not going to argue. this should be verified and documented17:50
charlie-tcaif you are using the command line17:50
crazygirI did this in windows17:50
crazygirusing an application comparable to infraread17:50
crazygirerrr.. infrarecorder17:50
crazygirthere really is no difference17:52
dj_bushidocan anyone help me with a grub problem???18:03
crazygirnormal IRC protocol is to ask. if someone can help, they will18:04
crazygirthere is absolutely no sense in "asking to ask"18:04
dj_bushidook. can i get help with a grub problem? i am trying to add a xubuntu entry to my fedora menu.lst, and can't get it to work. the error message is: error 11 - unrecognized device string18:05
crazygirhave you checked out #grub?18:05
dj_bushidodidn't know it existed...18:06
crazygir#anything exists in irc18:06
crazygir:P18:06
dj_bushidosomehow i'm sure...18:06
mojohello everyone18:36
mojocan I ask question about Xubuntu here?18:36
Odd-rationaleof course!18:37
forcessaluton18:41
forcesfeliz año18:42
mojookay18:42
mojoI just lost my sound playback after yesterday update, can someone suggest me a way to find out if the kernel has loaded the sound driver? I am using IBM X41, the sound is AC97 onboard18:43
forceshappy new year18:43
Odd-rationalemojo: try looking at "lspci -vvvvv" from a terminal...18:45
Odd-rationalelook for the audio device...18:45
mojoI found it18:46
mojoit said loaded snd-intel8x0m18:46
mojoOdd-rationale: I could change the volume, all apps do not complain about missing sound device, the laptop just does not have sound, I have confirmed this is not hw fault as I tried it with headphone already18:47
Odd-rationalemojo: tried running alsamixer and making sure the master and pcm mixer are not muted and up?18:48
Odd-rationale!sound18:48
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP318:48
mojoOdd-rationale: ola, it is not muted18:49
Odd-rationalemojo: hmmm... dunno... try looking through the wiki page...18:49
mojoOdd-rationale: could it be kernel-related problem only?18:49
Odd-rationalei'm not too sure...18:52
mattyb243anyone in here using xubuntu on the PS3? if not happen to know any channels relating to it?19:27
sinboxyou can try #ubuntu-ps3 maybe19:31
mattyb243perfect thanks.19:32
mattyb243although realisticly it doesnt really matter what platform im running it on19:32
gNewPowerhi, I just lost all sound on my computer. can anyone please help?19:46
gNewPoweranyone here?19:52
gNewPower_anyone here?19:53
gNewPowercan anyone please help me fix a sound problem?20:01
slimjimflimhi, i just mounted an ntfs partition w/ `mount /dev/sda1  /media/xp` from ubuntu hardy, but when i navigate to that  mount point i get an incomplete filesystem, any tips?20:01
slimjimflim*xubuntu hardy20:01
slimjimflimdoing so from livecd20:01
FactTechHas anyone out there tried to install the ATI Catalyst driver under Xubuntu and succeeded?20:04
LeeAsdfCan I get my laptop to share it's internet connection wirelessly?20:50
craigbass1976What's the app I need to run a web cam and capture images with it?  I can't remember22:32
craigbass1976Forget it.  Camorama was the one22:37
craigbass1976Ahh, balls.  It doesn'tsee my camera22:39
craigbass1976used to, even back in dapper22:39
craigbass1976Got it....22:41

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