[00:03] <sri_barence> nikolam: sorry, i tried the suspend debugging process recommended at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend
[00:04] <sri_barence> It disabled my wireless card!
[00:19] <nikolam> sri_barence, why would you do that. I just told you to install fglrx driver from ati site to enable suspend/resume working..
[00:19] <nikolam> what ati card/chip do you use?
[00:20] <sri_barence> ATI Radeon Xpress 200M
[00:22] <nikolam> That is the same as Xpress 1150
[00:22] <nikolam> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xpress_200#Radeon_Xpress_200M
[00:23] <sri_barence> It looks like I have the Catalyst 8.54 driver.
[00:23] <nikolam> There is Xpress 200 on http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
[00:24] <nikolam> 8.54 is ok. But you could upgrade to eather 8.9 or 8.12 and suspend/resume will work
[00:24] <nikolam> I use x1250 myself
[00:25] <sri_barence> "Later renamed as Radeon Xpress 1150 for AMD notebooks"
[00:27] <nikolam> just download 8.12 and see istructions depending on your ubuntu version
[00:27] <nikolam> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[00:28] <nikolam> sh ati-driver-installer-8-12-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/intrepid   (Or hardy)
[00:29] <nikolam> amd then install deb`s you have it here: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu
[00:29] <nikolam> You might go to #ati channel for support for fglrx driver.
[00:34] <sri_barence> If I understand correctly, the installer will make a deb with that command?
[00:34] <sri_barence> And then I can install with 'dpkg -i'?
[00:37] <nikolam> sri_barence, Yes, that is the point. So you can use other version if you want if that does not work for you
[00:38] <nikolam> I suggest you intall 8.9 version, I used it nicely. Avoid 8.10 and 8.11 .   8.12 works, too
[00:39] <sri_barence> no caps on 'intrepid'?
[00:39] <nikolam> no
[00:39] <nikolam> it is command line switch
[00:39] <sri_barence> ok. I'm going for 8.12
[00:39] <nikolam> good luck. And for fglrx, go to #ati channel
[00:40] <sri_barence> so "Ubuntu/intrepid"
[00:40] <sri_barence> should I uninstall xorg-driver-fglrx first
[00:42] <nikolam> Ok, go to #ati for further Proprietary driver support.
[00:46] <sri_barence> OK. I'm running the experiment now...
[03:09] <sri_barence> nikolam: still here?
[05:26] <tangentcollision> how do I check what driver I have for my wlan card?
[05:27] <tangentcollision> because if I have ath5k, I'd like to install madwifi-ng
[05:27] <ball> tangentcollision: dmesg?
[05:28] <tangentcollision> oh, nevermind
[05:29] <tangentcollision> airmon-ng told me :P
[05:36] <ball> ok
[05:36] <tangentcollision> alright, that settles my problem
[05:37] <tangentcollision> now I have another
[05:38] <tangentcollision> how do I unmount the main partition so I can split it?
[05:39] <ball> the / partition?
[05:39] <ball> I imagine you'd have to boot single-user to do that, if it's possible.
[05:42] <ball> ...or boot from a liveCD, then / from your hard disk isn't automatically mounted (I hope!)
[05:49] <tangentcollision> :P
[05:50] <tangentcollision> great
[05:50] <tangentcollision> I'm on eeexubuntu...
[05:50] <tangentcollision> and I don't know, it won't mount correctly any of my thumb drive media :P
[05:50] <ball> I would love an Eeebox, but I can't afford one.
[05:52] <ball> ...and I think the CPU lacks one or two features that I would like.
[05:52] <ball> Give it time, someone will build the machine I want.
[05:53] <tangentcollision> lol
[05:53] <tangentcollision> an eeepc is a great thing
[05:53] <ball> ...might even be me.
[05:53] <tangentcollision> I have a platapus bag
[05:53] <tangentcollision> and it fits perfectly under my hoodie
[05:53] <ball> EeePC would be nice, but I was looking mostly at desktops
[05:54] <tangentcollision> well, eeexubuntu is for...eeepc...
[05:54] <ball> oh
[05:54] <ball> Did they fix the dialogue boxes to fit the screen then?
[05:55] <tangentcollision> not really
[05:55] <tangentcollision> it's a tiny screen with a stupid res
[05:55] <tangentcollision> but I don't really car
[05:55] <tangentcollision> e
[05:55] <tangentcollision> it lets me audit my company's security occasionally
[05:55] <tangentcollision> whether they want me to or not
[05:56] <ball> I bypassed ours on the first day I was there.
[05:56] <tangentcollision> lol
[05:56] <tangentcollision> pretty much ditto
[05:56] <ball> had too really, how can I be a Web developer with no access to the Web?!
[05:57] <tangentcollision> well, I sit in the server room and make sure there's an ambiguous amount of security
[05:57] <tangentcollision> so I shut down people's iphones :P
[05:57] <ball> Do you wear a fleece all day?
[05:57] <tangentcollision> I wear my hoodie all day
[05:57] <tangentcollision> did ...
[05:58] <tangentcollision> I got laid off
[05:58] <tangentcollision> I wish I could take the off part out
[05:58] <ball> I got laid off too.
[05:58] <ball> Work three days a week at my internship site, but I hate it.
[05:58] <tangentcollision> ever heard of applied software?
[05:59] <tangentcollision> they do autocad
[05:59] <tangentcollision> they picked me up out of highschool and put me on the security team
[05:59] <tangentcollision> and I fixed their crap
[05:59] <tangentcollision> and maintained it
[05:59] <tangentcollision> then laid me off
[05:59] <tangentcollision> and I took my security with me
[05:59] <tangentcollision> I might as well not have been there :P
[06:01] <tangentcollision> I'll see if backtrack3 will partition for me
[06:35] <tangentcollision> hmm
[06:35] <tangentcollision> something is just f'ing wrong with this install of xubuntu
[06:35] <tangentcollision> I can't edit my partitions
[06:53] <ball> that's normal
[06:53] <ball> afaik
[06:54] <ball> tangentcollision: why are you trying to split /
[06:54] <ball> ?
[06:54] <tangentcollision> I'm trying to get an extra 1gb partition in there so I can boot backtrack3 from it
[06:55] <ball> what is backtrack3?
[06:55] <tangentcollision> backtrack 3 is a security auditing tool
[06:56] <ball> ...and it needs its own partition?
[06:56] <ball> Wierd.
[06:57] <tangentcollision> well
[06:57] <tangentcollision> I can't get grub to use it :P
[06:57] <tangentcollision> it only comes in live kernel
[06:57] <tangentcollision> and it uses a lilo loader
[06:58] <ball> Ah, so you want to put lilo in backtrack partition's boot record and then have grub chain lilo?
[06:58] <tangentcollision> yeah
[06:59] <tangentcollision> the live kernel uses the lilo loader, I can't really seperate it
[06:59] <tangentcollision> so, I'm thinking I can just point it to the partition and do chainloader +1
[06:59] <tangentcollision> and let it rip
[06:59] <tangentcollision> hup
[06:59] <tangentcollision> I think it's doing it
[07:00] <tangentcollision> go gparted, goooo
[07:00] <tangentcollision> I know you can do it!
[07:00] <tangentcollision> if nothing else, I can just reinstall eeexubuntu and tell it not to use everything on that drive
[07:01] <ball> If it's any consolation, my garbage is blowing down the street.
[07:01] <tangentcollision> (it uses an sdhc card, 16gb)
[07:02] <tangentcollision> hey, it shrunk my crap!
[07:02] <tangentcollision> yay
[07:06] <tangentcollision> now I can NOT run off the livecd installation thingy from usb1.0 stick
[07:06] <tangentcollision> that just makes me aaaangryyyy
[07:06] <tangentcollision> >.>
[07:06] <tangentcollision> <.<
[07:06] <tangentcollision> hulk...smash...*sulks away*
[07:07]  * ball nods
[07:07]  * tangentcollision nods*
[07:07] <ball> I have a net PC box that's supposed to boot from USB, but doesn't
[08:08] <EarlJr> I've got a slight issue with networking on my xubuntu install
[08:09] <EarlJr> every time I reboot, it defaults to a dhcp
[08:09] <EarlJr> how can I make my static ip settings stick?
[08:20] <ablomen> EarlJr, /etc/network/interfaces
[08:20] <ablomen> and /etc/resolv.conf
[08:29] <EarlJr> hmm
[08:29] <EarlJr> I think that my get it
[08:30] <EarlJr> thank you ablomen
[08:55] <admalledd> hello, i am trying to route a port thorough my (new) server to my other computer and was wondering how? google wasnt of much help. all of this must be done through ssh (i have x forwarding). the setup is as follows: internet-->router(cant change fowarded ports here)-->server(192.168.1.12)-->data box(192.168.1.13#21)
[08:55] <admalledd> **-->data box(192.168.1.13:21)
[09:01] <ablomen> why cant you change ports on the router if i might ask?
[09:02] <ablomen> (and btw, port 21 is used by ftp, should be 22 or a different, not commonly used port)
[09:03] <admalledd> because of the number of people, each person can only have 5 ports, and to one comp. (admin doesnt want more than 15 ports open)
[09:03] <ablomen> ah ok, well you might want too look at iptables
[09:03] <admalledd> well, 21 80 and 1980 ,1981 ,1982 are my ports
[09:03] <ablomen> i think you can achieve what you want with that
[09:04] <admalledd> ok, but i thought modifying iptables while in ssh would break connection?
[09:04] <ablomen> ehm yeah it might
[09:05] <admalledd> do i just not worry and reconnect?
[09:05] <admalledd> because pulling server out of wall is a pain
[09:06] <ablomen> i must say i dont have too much experience with iptables, so i really wouldnt know
[09:06] <admalledd> meh, google will now be my friend. :)
[09:06] <admalledd> ill be back if i cant figure it out by tommorow
[09:06] <admalledd> thx all!
[09:06] <ablomen> but i dont see another good way too do it, exept maybe just ssh-ing into the server and then into the box itself
[09:07] <ablomen> ah
[09:07] <ablomen> ok
[10:49] <jarnos> Is it hard job to install latest Xfce to Intrepid? Do you have to remove Xubuntu's Xfce first?
[10:49] <knome> jarnos, there's a ppa with beta1, but beta2 is the newest.
[10:50] <jarnos> knome: where? I would like to debug xfce4-mixer.
[10:50] <knome> jarnos, sec
[10:52] <knome> jarnos, https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive
[10:53] <jarnos> knome: thanks
[14:03] <Krillin> hey yo guys. here is a weiiird problem... I'm using pyNeighborhood to mount shared partitions through my computers. Ok, that's great, I have used it before and it was ok, but now I just cant send any file, it crashes my Thunar after 1 minute of transfer, can anyone give me a light? Thank you!
[17:03] <crazygir> I really don't understand this.. but I am *still* having issues trying to install xubuntu
[17:04] <crazygir> I've tried different cds, cd media (cdr/cdrw), burners, readers, systems (to install on), isos, mirrors, etc
[17:04] <crazygir> all have had errors, different errors, but all of them have errors..
[17:05] <crazygir> any suggestions? I've gone this far because I'd rather use xubuntu than any of the kde/gnome variants
[17:13] <romanov_> crazygir -> I had the same problem try to burn you cd with low speed
[17:16] <crazygir> 4x is pretty low :P
[17:17] <crazygir> romanov_: ^
[17:17] <romanov_> :)
[17:19] <crazygir> I have heard that errors are common, I've also talked to people that "have had no problems"
[17:19] <crazygir> so I really don't know what to think
[17:20] <romanov_> I gess your downloaded version is not ok ? check it in the startind of the livecd ... try again
[17:20] <crazygir> I have yet to have *any* problems with these burners, media, or systems, wrt downloading isos and trying installs
[17:20] <crazygir> romanov_: I've tried a number of different isos (including desktop/alternate) from various mirrors
[17:20] <crazygir> *all* have had some problem
[17:20] <romanov_> humm
[17:20] <crazygir> not the same problems, but all have had some issue that prevents me from installing
[17:21] <crazygir> the farthest that I got was starting to install packages
[17:21] <crazygir> but then ran into corrupt .debs
[17:22] <sinbox> weird
[17:22] <crazygir> yea
[17:22] <crazygir> it makes me want to scream :P
[17:23] <romanov_> strange ... maybe your harddisk is not ok ?
[17:23] <crazygir> romanov_: ?
[17:24] <crazygir> I've tried 3 different systems anyway
[17:24] <crazygir> 2 different ones to create the install cd, 2 different ones to install
[17:25] <romanov_> you mean that ubuntu / kubuntu install correctly
[17:26] <crazygir> no, I haven't tried (though I'm downloading a ubuntu iso right now)
[17:26] <crazygir> I don't really want k/ubuntu
[17:26] <crazygir> hence trying xubuntu :)
[17:26] <romanov_> yeah me too
[17:27] <crazygir> I'm trying *another* cdrw, brand new
[17:27] <crazygir> I had just tried a brand new cdr
[17:27] <romanov_> if you are in tunisia i will provide you a xubuntu cd :)
[17:27] <sam__> chaps, my resolution isn't listed in nvidia-settings - lcd doesn't seem to get detected properly - how can I add the correct rez?
[17:28] <crazygir> which gave me an I/O error: error reading boot cd
[17:28] <crazygir> nah, us
[17:28] <sam__> it's like it ignores xorg.conf
[17:28]  * sam__ continues googling
[17:28] <crazygir> sam__: do you have it set, explicitly in xorg.conf?
[17:29] <sam__> the conf is generic
[17:29] <crazygir> so try setting it explicitly
[17:29] <sam__> but the optimum rez in nvidia console isn't listed
[17:29] <crazygir> so what
[17:29] <crazygir> define *your* optimum resolution for xorg
[17:29] <crazygir> screw the nvidia console
[17:30] <sam__> that's what I thought, but it seems the nvidia settings take precedence
[17:30] <crazygir> it doesn't appear to know what you need
[17:30] <sam__> I need 1280x768
[17:30] <crazygir> so don't use the nvidia settings
[17:30] <crazygir> disable them.
[17:30] <sam__> the xfce rez settings seem useless
[17:30] <sam__> offering only 800x600
[17:30] <crazygir> sam__: SET it EXPLICITLY, yourself, in xorg.conf
[17:30]  * sam__ disables nvidia driver
[17:31] <sam__> is there a sample xorg.conf anywhere?
[17:31] <crazygir> on your system?
[17:31] <crazygir> on the interwebz :)
[17:31] <sam__> the web isn't helping, it all seems to amazingly complicated
[17:31] <sam__> not sure of the syntax
[17:31] <crazygir> sam__: man
[17:31] <crazygir> sam__: you have an xorg.conf to use
[17:31] <crazygir> just trim down the resolution settings
[17:31] <sam__> yes, it's got little in it
[17:31] <sam__> doesn't even list resolutions
[17:31] <crazygir> educate yourself.
[17:32] <crazygir> man, google.
[17:32] <sam__> have been, time consuming
[17:32] <sam__> not feeling I'm getting anywhere
[17:32] <crazygir> it's time well-spent
[17:32] <sam__> feel like I have to reinvent the wheel
[17:32] <crazygir> you are if you are learning :)
[17:32] <crazygir> nope
[17:32] <crazygir> the wheel has already been invented
[17:33] <sam__> I'll bleed over it for a little longer then
[17:33] <crazygir> :)
[17:33] <crazygir> look at *real* xorg confs
[17:33] <crazygir> not what ubuntu has
[17:33] <crazygir> look at the man page
[17:33] <sam__> right
[17:33] <crazygir> and see if others have similar problem
[17:33] <crazygir> *s
[17:33] <charlie-tca> https://help.ubuntu.com/ and type in xorg.conf in the upper right search box
[17:35] <sinbox> if you're gonna play wiotrh xorg.conf back it up first though sam__ :) also this may help (or not): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[17:35] <sam__> yes, I'm backing it up each time
[17:35] <crazygir> you should *always* make a copy of a conf when making changes
[17:35] <sam__> I think the problem is that my lcd isn't detected
[17:35] <crazygir> using a rc setup is even better
[17:36] <crazygir> sam__: that's ok
[17:36] <crazygir> if you know the correct res and syncs, you can set it yourself
[17:36] <crazygir> sam__: #xorg (or whatever it is) might help too
[17:36] <sam__> great, thanks
[17:37] <crazygir> hmm... getting a little further in the install than before.. actually have the gui this time
[17:37] <sinbox> where woudl you go look for the res and syncs for a particualr monitor model?
[17:37] <crazygir> maybe those isos don't like disk at once..
[17:37] <crazygir> sinbox: your lcd manual
[17:37] <crazygir> lcds have a "happy" res/sync
[17:38] <sinbox> well, I would if I had a manual for it crazygir :0, which I guess leaves me the manufacturer's website and hoping they have a decnet support past to their site then
[17:38] <crazygir> yes
[17:38] <crazygir> or google
[17:38] <crazygir> :)
[17:39] <crazygir> w00t I have a gui installer
[17:40] <crazygir> I really don't get this..
[17:43] <crazygir> maybe there should be iso burning instructions on the official website?
[17:43] <crazygir> given that dao doesn't produce a working iso
[17:43] <crazygir> err.. working cd
[17:44] <crazygir> or maybe the iso creation process should play nice with dao
[17:45] <charlie-tca> You mean like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto , crazygir ?
[17:45] <crazygir> on the xubuntu site
[17:45] <crazygir> like, right next to where you get info on downloading the iso
[17:46] <charlie-tca> Good point! I can bring that up to the website guys.
[17:46] <crazygir> and still, there is nothing in there about dao or sao
[17:47] <charlie-tca> Maybe they don´t work?
[17:47] <crazygir> I had to use sao (not dao) to get this to work
[17:47] <crazygir> if that is in fact true, that should be documented
[17:49] <charlie-tca> I would think following what is documented would work.
[17:49] <crazygir> charlie-tca: that is what I'm saying, there is no mention of sao or dao
[17:49] <charlie-tca> But there is makeiso
[17:50] <charlie-tca> mkisofs , rather
[17:50] <crazygir> I'm not going to argue. this should be verified and documented
[17:50] <charlie-tca> if you are using the command line
[17:50] <crazygir> I did this in windows
[17:50] <crazygir> using an application comparable to infraread
[17:50] <crazygir> errr.. infrarecorder
[17:52] <crazygir> there really is no difference
[18:03] <dj_bushido> can anyone help me with a grub problem???
[18:04] <crazygir> normal IRC protocol is to ask. if someone can help, they will
[18:04] <crazygir> there is absolutely no sense in "asking to ask"
[18:05] <dj_bushido> ok. can i get help with a grub problem? i am trying to add a xubuntu entry to my fedora menu.lst, and can't get it to work. the error message is: error 11 - unrecognized device string
[18:05] <crazygir> have you checked out #grub?
[18:06] <dj_bushido> didn't know it existed...
[18:06] <crazygir> #anything exists in irc
[18:06] <crazygir> :P
[18:06] <dj_bushido> somehow i'm sure...
[18:36] <mojo> hello everyone
[18:36] <mojo> can I ask question about Xubuntu here?
[18:37] <Odd-rationale> of course!
[18:41] <forces> saluton
[18:42] <forces> feliz año
[18:42] <mojo> okay
[18:43] <mojo> I just lost my sound playback after yesterday update, can someone suggest me a way to find out if the kernel has loaded the sound driver? I am using IBM X41, the sound is AC97 onboard
[18:43] <forces> happy new year
[18:45] <Odd-rationale> mojo: try looking at "lspci -vvvvv" from a terminal...
[18:45] <Odd-rationale> look for the audio device...
[18:46] <mojo> I found it
[18:46] <mojo> it said loaded snd-intel8x0m
[18:47] <mojo> Odd-rationale: I could change the volume, all apps do not complain about missing sound device, the laptop just does not have sound, I have confirmed this is not hw fault as I tried it with headphone already
[18:48] <Odd-rationale> mojo: tried running alsamixer and making sure the master and pcm mixer are not muted and up?
[18:48] <Odd-rationale> !sound
[18:49] <mojo> Odd-rationale: ola, it is not muted
[18:49] <Odd-rationale> mojo: hmmm... dunno... try looking through the wiki page...
[18:49] <mojo> Odd-rationale: could it be kernel-related problem only?
[18:52] <Odd-rationale> i'm not too sure...
[19:27] <mattyb243> anyone in here using xubuntu on the PS3? if not happen to know any channels relating to it?
[19:31] <sinbox> you can try #ubuntu-ps3 maybe
[19:32] <mattyb243> perfect thanks.
[19:32] <mattyb243> although realisticly it doesnt really matter what platform im running it on
[19:46] <gNewPower> hi, I just lost all sound on my computer. can anyone please help?
[19:52] <gNewPower> anyone here?
[19:53] <gNewPower_> anyone here?
[20:01] <gNewPower> can anyone please help me fix a sound problem?
[20:01] <slimjimflim> hi, i just mounted an ntfs partition w/ `mount /dev/sda1  /media/xp` from ubuntu hardy, but when i navigate to that  mount point i get an incomplete filesystem, any tips?
[20:01] <slimjimflim> *xubuntu hardy
[20:01] <slimjimflim> doing so from livecd
[20:04] <FactTech> Has anyone out there tried to install the ATI Catalyst driver under Xubuntu and succeeded?
[20:50] <LeeAsdf> Can I get my laptop to share it's internet connection wirelessly?
[22:32] <craigbass1976> What's the app I need to run a web cam and capture images with it?  I can't remember
[22:37] <craigbass1976> Forget it.  Camorama was the one
[22:39] <craigbass1976> Ahh, balls.  It doesn'tsee my camera
[22:39] <craigbass1976> used to, even back in dapper
[22:41] <craigbass1976> Got it....