[00:00] <Senior> logically there won't be nay extra space
[00:00] <Senior> any extra space
[00:00] <ubuntu> senior: so will kububtu say, this is impossible? or will it just run over what i currently have?
[00:01] <Senior> yes it will run on what u have
[00:01] <ubuntu> i want to install it without backing up files i have... i am trusting this will go over without a problem.
[00:03] <ubuntu> is this a wise decision or should i back-up my important files?
[00:03] <amortvigil> does anyone have raptor menu working?
[00:05] <Tupac> I am young thug !!
[00:10] <ubuntu> senior: should i go through with installing it or is it wise to backup first?
[00:13] <Senior> I think backup will be better
[00:16] <amortvigil> hello is anyone using the raptor menu?
[00:16] <ubuntu> senior: i figured such, it worked so well while i was at work. what is the best way to store 15 gb of files?
[00:17] <Senior> mmmmmmmm
[00:18] <Senior> I really donno but try putting them on DVDS
[00:18] <ubuntu> i dont have a dvd burner :(
[00:18] <ubuntu> i think i can transfer it to my desktop.
[00:19] <ubuntu> senior: thanks for your help. i was just so ready to dump windows.
[00:20] <Senior> go on,,, ubuntu is really the best
[00:26] <ubuntu> i installed it on my friends laptop and have used it and more and more i like linux.  i need to use wine though because there are some programs i need to use.
[00:29] <alonea> this may be nitpicky, but why isn't there a simple right click action for mounting disk iamges?
[00:33] <amortvigil> who knows how to edit tommenus
[00:33] <Dr_willis_>  tommenus?
[00:36] <ghostcube> hi and happy new year from germany is there anyone knowing how i can get smb4k to use the new kdewallet
[00:44] <jussi01> hrm, is it possible to prioritize things that load at auto start? I want knetwork manager to start before everything else...
[00:44] <ghostcube> jussi01, u can set it before login as far as i know but i dont know if it accepts it
[00:45] <ghostcube> jussi01, oh u mean u want the deamon be loaded before kde ?
[00:45] <ghostcube> :|
[00:46] <ghostcube> or only before the other kde tools ?
[00:46] <jussi01> ghostcube: just before everything else like my irc client, restored firefox sessions etc
[00:47] <ghostcube> hmm
[00:49] <ghostcube> is there a wrapper that starts kmix at startup or what is calling it ?
[00:50] <ghostcube> havent looked into this so far
[00:52] <jussi01> ghostcube: hrm, looks like its just the session saving after logout
[00:52] <jussi01> anyway, im off to bed
[00:53] <ghostcube> jussi01, yeah just saw the session saving hmm ok n8
[03:21] <amin__> hi
[03:26] <Dr_willis_> hmmmm
[03:33] <pkodon> jayson: Welcome!
[03:33] <jayson> thanks
[03:33]  * username sings
[03:34] <pkodon> jayson: To get this kind of message with my nick sent to me, hit pk<tab>, then enter.
[03:34] <jayson> pkodon: ok much better
[03:35] <pkodon> jayson: That hilights what you type to me, so I can pick it out when lots of people are typing.
[03:37] <pkodon> jayson: Now, click on my nick in the list to the right.
[03:37] <jayson> pkodon:  ok
[03:38] <pkodon> jayson: That should bring up another window.
[04:04] <matthew> hello can someone help me with a question?
[04:04] <crimsun> !ask
[04:05] <matthew> how do you create a file to do assembly language?
[04:09] <crimsun> matthew: use any text editor
[04:09] <matthew> what is the file extension for an assembly language?
[04:10] <crimsun> matthew: .asm? .s? doesn't ultimately matter, tbh.
[04:11] <matthew> ok thank you for the help bye.
[04:59] <skii> i can't get frostwire to work can someone please help me out???
[05:14] <pidus> i am using kubuntu 8.10 and yesterday while i had an external HDD connected, and data being transferred without any problems there was a power failure. Since then whenever i connect the HDD the hotplugin(automount) point to the local HDD and when i try to manually mount /dev/sdb1 the prompt shows up I/O error, even though the disk is getting mounted perfectly on a mac machine.
[05:14] <pidus> lsusb also shows up a correct entry
[05:16] <pidus> this is the error message that shows up when trying to mount using sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 external/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/97365/
[05:17] <pidus> is there no way to fix this problem, without access to windows?
[05:47] <dwidmann_laptop> hrm, this install is stuck at 67% "Configuring Console Setup" :(
[06:10] <Shadeslayer> antiquark are you there???
[06:25] <White_Pelican> can someone help me with frostwire, please?
[07:10] <gdo_> Hello folks. Do you know a good version of kubuntu for a veeery slow laptop ?(AMD k6-2 250mhz with 160mb RAM)
[07:13] <DaSkreech> gdo_: Kubuntu? No
[07:15] <gdo_> isnt kubuntu a good distro for slow computers ?
[07:15] <DaSkreech> Not that slow :)
[07:15] <DaSkreech> gdo_: What do you want to do on that computer?
[07:16] <gdo_> its for my sister. just a browser and internet conection will be fine
[07:18] <DaSkreech> oh that should work but you might want to look for a lighter overall solution
[07:18] <DaSkreech> try #fluxbuntu
[07:18] <robinr> five years ago I ran some mandriva (KDE 3-somthing) on a 200MHz, 128MB ram
[07:18] <robinr> it worked, but was a bit slow
[07:19] <DaSkreech> Puppy might also be a good fit
[07:19] <DaSkreech> KDE4 is probably not :)
[07:19] <gdo_> hmm! thanks. I'll take a look
[07:19] <gdo_> i'm downloading dsl too
[07:19] <robinr> KDE4 is slow with 4 GB and 3 GGz
[07:19] <gdo_> i'll try puppy
[07:24] <anom01y> --> global warming scam exposed -->    youtube.com/watch?v=FfHW7KR33IQ&feature=channel_page
[07:24] <anom01y> happy new years
[07:39] <MinusSeven> Anomoly,
[07:39] <MinusSeven> global warming isn't real?
[07:40] <MinusSeven> Al Bore is just creating a religion
[07:40] <antonia> is there a good reason not to install amarok 2?
[07:40] <antonia> i'm setting up a computer for a friends parents and am wondering weather or not i should
[07:43] <MinusSeven> just install it
[07:47] <antonia> MinusSeven: done :), i wish kubuntu got better at version upgrades, past 2 updates i've had to install from scratch to get things working the way thier supposed to
[07:49] <antonia> happy new years everyone!
[07:53] <dwidmann_> humdiddydum ... anybody know if I can find an updated package of the radeonhd driver anywhere?
[07:53] <dwidmann_> (need support for the RV710)
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Which day?
[07:54] <DaSkreech> I  meant which version of the radeonHD ?
[07:55] <dwidmann_> DaSkreech: umm, newer than 1.2.1, I know 1.2.4 supports it for sure according to what I'm looking at right now
[07:56] <dwidmann_> DaSkreech: I think 1.2.4 might be the first version to support the card though
[08:01] <dwidmann_> (I'm actually astounded at how well the card is working with the vesa driver though, of course, that won't give me hardware video scaling ...)
[08:15] <jtmoney> hey guys, i'm running 8.10, with kde 4.2 beta 2... i changed the height of the panel, and i was wondering if there's a simple way to revert it to the default... it changed the color of the panel and the icon sizes and doesn't look right now :(
[08:23] <jtmoney> okay, i killed the x session... did i miss any replies? :)
[08:23] <jtmoney> (obviously, that didn't restore the default settings for the panel)
[08:23] <jtmoney> maybe there's a file... a panelrc or something i can edit?
[08:30] <Mamarok> jtmoney: click on the Cashew on the lower left, change your settings
[08:30] <Mamarok> lower right, sry
[08:34] <jtmoney> yeah, i was playing with that and it changed the color of the panel to blue... the icons don't look quite right even when i resize the height
[08:34] <jtmoney> was wondering if there's a way to restore the panel to its default settings
[08:35] <jtmoney> make there's a backup panelrc or something i could use
[08:37] <Mamarok> jtmoney: look at .kde/share/config/, there it's likely to be in kwinrc, but you have to log out first to change this in the command line
[08:37] <Mamarok> maybe edit it to check it's the right file, can't remember right now
[08:38] <jtmoney> okay, let me see
[08:39] <jtmoney> is there any way you can send me your file?
[08:39] <jtmoney> that way i can override mine?
[08:39] <Mamarok> oops, no, I'm running nightly
[08:40] <Mamarok> just edit it and check the settings, it's self explaining
[08:40] <jtmoney> yeah, i don't think this is the right file, actually
[08:40] <Mamarok> well, all settings are in that folder
[08:40] <jtmoney> oh well, i can live with it :)
[08:41] <Mamarok> why not just changing the settings in the panel? Also, color schemes are set in the system settings
[08:41] <Mamarok> -> appearance
[08:44] <jtmoney> bah, i don't know where it is
[08:44] <jtmoney> maybe under desktop theme details
[08:44] <jtmoney> it's no biggie, nevermind
[08:44] <Mamarok> jtmoney: ^^
[08:44] <jtmoney> ohh
[08:44] <jtmoney> one sec :)
[08:44] <Mamarok> edit your panel and change the settings, and change the default theme settings
[08:47] <jtmoney> i'm a total n00b, can't find it
[08:47] <jtmoney> don't worry about it
[08:47] <jtmoney> but thank you
[08:47] <jtmoney> and thank you to all the developers
[08:47] <jtmoney> kde4 is shaping up very, very nicely
[08:47] <Mamarok> jtmoney: look at your screen, lower right, there is a cashew shaped icon
[08:48] <jtmoney> yeah, i get that... i just don't know how to change the color for the panel under appearance in system settings
[08:49] <jtmoney> alright, good night all
[08:49] <jtmoney> thanks for your help Mamarok
[08:50] <jtmoney> sorry i'm a total n00b and prob too drunk for this :)
[08:50] <Mamarok> :)
[09:43] <Andrew``> hey all.... ama kubuntu newbie.. can anyone tell me how to install a .deb file?
[09:43] <Andrew``> have tried deb frost.....deb
[09:43] <Andrew``> but command not found
[09:43] <Andrew``> tried sudo deb frostwire.....
[09:43] <Andrew``> same thing
[09:43] <Andrew``> not found
[09:44] <jussi01> Andrew``: tried clicking on it?
[09:44] <jussi01> ;)
[09:44] <jussi01> but hang on
[09:44] <jussi01> !info frostwire
[09:45] <Andrew``> I knew that already
[09:45] <Andrew``> :)
[09:45] <jussi01> Andrew``: just find it in dolphin and click on it
[09:45] <Andrew``> \thanks
[09:45] <Andrew``> stupid me eh?
[09:45] <Andrew``> lol
[09:45] <jussi01> hehe :)
[09:45] <Andrew``> *sigh(
[09:46] <jussi01> Andrew``: for the future, its: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/deb
[10:00] <besitzer> pece
[10:01] <besitzer> haii
[10:01] <besitzer> naa..
[10:02] <ubuntu> hi
[10:03] <ubuntu> i have a big problem, i tried to upgrade kubuntu from 8.04 to 8.10 and it stopped after everything was downloaded
[10:04] <ubuntu> and now i cant get into the system start with a kernel panik
[10:04] <ubuntu> i am using a live cd now
[10:04] <ubuntu> anyone sober enough to help me with this one?
[10:10] <jussi01> !gryb | NightMAn
[10:10] <NightMAn> I had windows and Kubuntu installed on my computer. Then I reinstalled windows and now I cant run Kubuntu....any ideas?
[10:10] <jussi01> !grub | NightMAn
[10:12] <blackflag> !lvm
[10:15] <NightMAn> Thanks guys
[10:15] <jussi01> NightMAn: working now?
[10:16] <NightMAn> no..I am reading instruction that you gave..hope it will work
[10:18] <jussi01> ok :)
[10:22] <shay> hi
[10:22] <shay> any one know how i make the kube ?
[10:24] <shay> ??????
[10:24] <shay> any onw here ?
[10:24] <shay> ?????????????????????
[11:02] <christaker> hello and happy new year! :) is there any command to resize the kde panel ?
[11:03] <christaker> i want to add it to my script for resizing from start up
[11:09] <jussi01> christaker: why? does it not stqaay resized after restart?
[11:11] <christaker> i have an external monitor bigger than my laptop...so kde panel stays at 1280 pix width and it is bad for my 1680 pix monitor :(
[11:19] <amortvigil> hello can anyone help me setting up raptor menu?? i installed it but the only thing is see is an empty square
[11:20] <amortvigil> an transparent square
[11:31] <ashish> hi
[11:37] <csc_> hello. is there anyone with an (almost) fresh installation of kubuntu? if yes, could you please tell me whether /boot/vmlinuz and /boot/initrd.img (they should be symbolic links) exist in your /boot directory?
[11:43] <zeltak> hi, does anyone know of a linux command to switch off screen on a laptop and let the laptop run as usuall?
[12:09] <johannes__> hi all
[12:10] <johannes__> i have got the prob on kubuntu 8.10, that while typing the screen brightness changes
[12:10] <johannes__> sth wrong with the focus e.g.
[12:11] <johannes__> can anybody help?
[12:20] <warlley> olha
[12:21] <warlley> alguem ai acodado
[12:21] <warlley> ?
[12:29] <mungustas> hello, could someone advise how I could use SOCKS5 (ssh) proxy in shell ? I want to connect to ftp site through socks5 using 'lftp' client
[12:39] <rohan> hey i have a problem with my keyboard
[12:39] <Shadeslayer> my function keys dont work
[12:41] <Shadeslayer> and it shuts off now and then,rendering my keyboard useless for 2min or sp
[12:41] <Shadeslayer> *so
[12:52] <Guest9878> why is always problem with reading cd on kubuntu?? I have insert a DVD and I can see it on dolphin or anything
[12:52] <Guest9878> any idea??
[12:53] <mungustas> How to use SOCKS5 with 'lftp' client ?
[12:57] <Shadeslayer> guest9878:has the DVD drive been mounted??
[12:59] <Guest9878> Shadeslayer: I was seeing a movie, I just change the dvd and now I cannt see it
[13:00] <Guest9878> Shadeslayer: I have always this problem with linux.. something works something they dont
[13:00] <Shadeslayer> was that using Amarok??
[13:01] <yao_ziyuan> is kde3 still available in kubuntu?
[13:01] <Guest9878> Shadeslayer: xine, but I close the program and I eject the dvd using the device notifier
[13:02] <level1> is there a way to uninstall all packages except for a select few and their dependencies?
[13:02] <Shadeslayer> maybe the drive got unmounted,just check if its mounted
[13:03] <Guest9878> Shadeslayer: how?
[13:03] <Shadeslayer> and try another program such as VLC,just to make sure
[13:03] <Tm_T> yao_ziyuan: in Hardy yes
[13:04] <Guest9878> Shadeslayer: but I cann't try any program because the dvd is not mount it
[13:04] <Shadeslayer> just click on the drive
[13:04] <Shadeslayer> it should auto mount
[13:04] <rodina> cus
[13:05] <rodina> hi my na,e is huby§
[13:05] <johannes__> hi
[13:05] <rodina> is here now czech?L?
[13:05] <rodina> proste dopice je tunejakej cech:D
[13:05] <rodina> lol
[13:06] <johannes__> i get the problem during isntal cache- owned by uid 1000 instead uid 0?
[13:09] <Guest9878> Shadeslayer: it doesn't... I will restart the system.. thanks..
[13:09] <Shadeslayer> k
[13:11] <Shadeslayer> hey anybody knows the solution to my problem????
[13:14] <Shadeslayer> another problem,the eject button wont work
[13:15] <Shadeslayer> ok the eject button started to work
[13:15] <Shadeslayer> but my keyboard still has some problems
[13:19] <forxxd> happy new year
[13:22] <Shadeslayer> forxxd:now????
[13:23] <Shadeslayer> anybody please help my keyboard is going beserk
[13:25]  * Andrew`` throws  a rock at shades kb
[13:25] <Shadeslayer> haha very funny :D
[13:27] <BluesKaj> Happy New Year !
[13:28] <elle> hello
[13:30] <Shadeslayer> looks like ill have to go back to Vista
[13:32] <Shadeslayer> ok have an idea,will try to run Dell quickset on Wine
[13:32] <elle> how do u do that
[13:32] <Shadeslayer> ill download quickset from dell.com
[13:32] <Shadeslayer> and run the .exe
[13:33] <elle> i see
[13:33] <Shadeslayer> wine automatically runs .exe's
[13:33] <elle> hmm ok
[13:42] <theking> hi
[13:42] <elle> hi king
[14:12] <erpo> Hi. I'm a regular Gnome user who is trying out Kubuntu 8.10. I've noticed that the desktop seems very laggy and Xorg's CPU usage often spikes up to 93-94%. I do not encounter these problems in Ubuntu 8.10 with a Gnome desktop environment. Is this a known issue? Is there a solution?
[14:13] <Dr_willis_> kde4 is a bit slow at times. its slowly improveing with every update
[14:13] <Shadeslayer> wine cant run the quickset drivers
[14:13] <Shadeslayer> erpo:yeah switch to KDE 4.2
[14:14] <erpo> Dr_willis_: Are my symptoms typical? I have an Intel Core 2 Duo 2.16GHz CPU, 4GB ram, and a GeForce 8600 graphics card. Compositing features are turned on.
[14:14] <Shadeslayer> major improvements even in a Beta version
[14:14] <erpo> Shadeslayer: Thanks for the tip. I will try that. :)
[14:14] <Shadeslayer> erpo:i have the same configuration
[14:14] <Shadeslayer> is that an XPS
[14:15] <erpo> Shadeslayer: Lenovo Thinkpad T61p.
[14:15] <Shadeslayer> well i have the same graphics card and processor,but 3GB ram,KDE 4.2 works like a charm
[14:16] <Shadeslayer> KDE 4.1 was a bit laggy
[14:16] <erpo> Shadeslayer: Are you using the project-neon PPA?
[14:16] <Shadeslayer> yes
[14:16] <Dr_willis_> I got an 8800gtsxxx and its slugish at times also.
[14:16] <erpo> Do I have to uninstall KDE 4.1 from the official repos before I install from the PPA?
[14:16] <Shadeslayer> no
[14:17] <erpo> Cool. :) Thanks for your help!
[14:17] <Shadeslayer> just go here: http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2
[14:17] <Shadeslayer> and follow the instructions
[14:17] <Shadeslayer> Dr_willis:which KDE are you using
[14:18] <Shadeslayer> Is there any other IRC where i can voice my problems??/?
[14:19] <Shadeslayer> dont seem to be getting alot of support here
[14:19] <erpo> Shadeslayer: What kind of problems?
[14:19] <Shadeslayer> well my function keys don work
[14:19] <Shadeslayer> *dont
[14:20] <Dr_willis_> theres always the ubuntukuuntu forums..
[14:20] <Shadeslayer> and my keyboard misses a few keystrokes like the one above
[14:20] <cuznt> hippo gnu deer
[14:20] <Shadeslayer> how do i open those
[14:21] <Shadeslayer> You mean the forums at kubuntu.org???
[14:21] <Shadeslayer> and ubuntu.com
[14:22] <Dr_willis_> i would goole for ubuntu forum and go to the link? :)
[14:23] <Dr_willis_> or am i missing somthing.
[14:23] <Shadeslayer> i meant that is there any other IRC
[14:23] <Shadeslayer> like this one
[14:23] <Dr_willis_> freenode is the main Ubuntu IRC network.
[14:24] <Dr_willis_> theres 10000's of IRC servers/networks out.
[14:24] <Shadeslayer> how do i connect to them??
[14:24] <Dr_willis_> using  Your IRC clients server/connection menu items   proberly a list of several 100 in  there by default
[14:26] <Dr_willis_> I doubt if any of them have as big a Kubuntu/Ubuntu channel as Freenode does
[14:26] <Shadeslayer> hmmmm
[14:27] <Dr_willis_> #ubuntu has 1216 People in it.
[14:27] <Dr_willis_> This channel is also often Much bigger at times
[14:27] <Dr_willis_> But is Is a Holiday
[14:37] <erpo> updating to 4.2 :) brb
[14:38] <Shadeslayer> hope you tenjoy i
[14:38] <Shadeslayer> hope you enjoy it
[14:39] <Shadeslayer> and dont restart your laptop
[14:39] <Shadeslayer> just log out and log back in
[14:48] <fernando> how can I change the priotority of a task??
[14:52] <cyfal> weird problem since yesterday. it seems like sometimes the system means that the shiftkey is pressed even though it is not. any idea where this could come from?
[15:06] <slow-motion> hi
[15:08] <DaSkreech> !hi
[15:10] <cuznt> !botsnack
[15:27] <zorglu_> q. i would like to copy a directory without changing the user and permission, what is the command for that ?
[15:28] <PhilRod> "cp -p" I think, but "man cp" is your friend
[15:29] <DaSkreech> cp -a
[15:29] <DaSkreech> archive
[15:29] <zorglu_> thanks
[15:31] <zorglu_> i installed 810 from scratch and moving my home dir :)
[15:32] <johannes__> i get the problem during isntal cache- owned by uid 1000 instead uid 0?
[15:32] <johannes__>  i have got the prob on kubuntu 8.10, that while typing the screen brightness changes
[15:33] <johannes__> sth wrong with the focus e.g.
[15:33] <johannes__>  can anybody help?
[15:35] <Shadeslayer> DaSkreech:Can you help me with this
[15:35] <BluesKaj> johannes__, which video card ?
[15:35] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: Gimmie a moment
[15:36] <Shadeslayer> ok,just look at the links in #kde
[15:36] <johannes__> BluesKaj: how do i find ou - which command?
[15:37] <BluesKaj> johannes__, lspci | grep VGA
[15:38] <johannes__> blu
[15:38] <johannes__> BluesKaj: thanks, its Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960
[15:38] <johannes__> i think its sth with the focus, not with the card, its not if i dont type
[15:39] <BluesKaj> the driver isn't quite right ...perhaps an updated one is in order
[15:40] <johannes__> BluesKaj: how would i change that?
[15:41] <johannes__> very annoying, that the active and passive window change the brightness so often, its somehow related to usend ttouchpad/keyboard
[15:43] <BluesKaj> johannes__, check the keyboard layout in system settings
[15:45] <johannes__> BluesKaj: what should i look for?
[15:46] <johannes__> keyboard repeats is enabled, kmix
[15:51] <megatron> hola a todos
[15:51] <BluesKaj> johannes__, Kmenu/applications/system/system settings/country region&language/keyboard layout, enable keyboard latouts, choose keybooard model
[15:51] <DaSkreech> !es
[15:52] <Schuenemann> does anyone use kxmame with sdlmame?
[15:52] <megatron> alguien me puede ayudar
[15:52] <megatron> para montar un disco duro
[15:52] <BluesKaj> enable keyboard latouts=enable keyboard layouts
[15:52] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: Ok back. What's up?
[15:52] <Shadeslayer> ok
[15:53] <Shadeslayer> my keyboard does not work properly
[15:53] <DaSkreech> Right did you read the link from DKE?
[15:53] <DaSkreech> #KDE ?
[15:53] <Shadeslayer> yes
[15:53] <Schuenemann> I mean has anyone sucessfully played kxmame with sdlmame?
[15:53] <DaSkreech> Ignore the section that says pacman
[15:53] <Shadeslayer> i need to create a xorg file
[15:54] <Shadeslayer> Xmodmap
[15:54] <DaSkreech> right
[15:54] <Shadeslayer> so where do i create it
[15:54] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: You may want to file this as a bug
[15:55] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: in ~
[15:55] <zorglu_> q. what is the name of the sun java vm package ?
[15:55] <zorglu_> openjdk ?
[15:55] <Shadeslayer> ill file this as a bug but it will take time to get rectified
[15:56] <zorglu_> !java
[15:56] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: Yes but you will also get wider feedback
[15:56] <zorglu_> feel like out of date :)
[15:57] <Shadeslayer> but what i dont understand is the latitude keyboard is just like mine,so why doesnt it work for me
[15:57] <Shadeslayer> i helped somebody with a vostro yesterday with the same problem
[15:57] <Shadeslayer> and it worked flawlessly
[15:57] <johannes__> BluesKaj: i did, but unchanged.thanks anyway
[15:59] <Shadeslayer> DaSkreech:im willing to try it any way if it doesnt take too long,i only need to configure 5 keys
[15:59] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: What worked? the keys?
[16:00] <Shadeslayer> yes all of the keys worked if he choose Dell latitude keyboard
[16:00] <BluesKaj> johannes__, then i think a different perhaps newer graphics driver
[16:03] <Shadeslayer> DaSkreech:How do you turn scroll lock on
[16:04] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: KDE 4.2 ?
[16:04] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: I press the button
[16:04] <Shadeslayer> yes
[16:04] <johannes__> BluesKaj: how would i find out about that?
[16:04] <Shadeslayer> ok this is how i used it in vista:Fn+Num Lk
[16:05] <Shadeslayer> now when i press fn+Num Lk nothing happens
[16:06] <Shadeslayer> same for  Fn+Print scrn=sysRq
[16:06] <Shadeslayer> etc,etc
[16:06] <BluesKaj> johannes , type your graphics card model number into the Adept search bar , and look for your card in the properties list of the latest drivers
[16:08] <Shadeslayer> Love KDE except for this problem
[16:09]  * Silent_Justy_sha is away: I've got to get some laundry done or I'm going naked today!
[16:09]  * warehouse_justy is back.
[16:09]  * warehouse_justy is away: I've got to get some laundry done or I'm going naked today!
[16:10] <DaSkreech> warehouse_justy: Please turn off your away message
[16:10] <matteo_> Hi!
[16:10]  * warehouse_justy is back.
[16:10] <DaSkreech> !hi
[16:10] <matteo_> How can i install the driver for the HD4850 in kubutnu 8.10?
[16:10] <DaSkreech> !ati
[16:12] <Schuenemann> can anyone give a hand with kxmame/sdlmame? I can't load any rom
[16:12] <Shadeslayer> DaSkreech:If it helps im gonna file abug report,but what bug should i mention
[16:12] <matteo_> thank!
[16:12] <Shadeslayer> * a bug
[16:12] <DaSkreech> Either khotkeys or kmilo
[16:12] <DaSkreech> !bugs
[16:13] <Shadeslayer> so i say that kmilo is not working properly??
[16:13] <warehouse_justy> DaSkreech: Ah Ha!  That's what that is!
[16:14] <matteo_> how can i make to auto-login
[16:14] <matteo_> in kubuntu?
[16:14] <Nikola> hey guys. When's the new Kubuntu Alpha coming?
[16:15] <Raceman> Hi all, I've no sound when I'm watching youtube or playing a mp3 by Amarok, but I've sound with starting up Kubuntu and when I received messages within kopette. The visualizer in kopette is showing it's playing sound, and the volume is 100%. Anybody an idea what is going wrong?
[16:15] <matteo_> i have to type the password every time!
[16:15] <warehouse_justy> DaSkreech: Done!  It's different than kvirc.
[16:15] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: You say the laptop keys aren't working properly and state the models they worked on and the ones that don't work
[16:16] <Shadeslayer> thnx
[16:16] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: You can inquire if you need to configure khotkeys or kmilo to get them working
[16:16] <Shadeslayer> Raceman:right click on the Speaker icon
[16:16] <Raceman> Shadeslayer: Yes, and then?
[16:17] <Shadeslayer> >mixer>settings>configure channels
[16:17] <Shadeslayer> select all of them
[16:17] <Shadeslayer> i had this problem,the sound was so low  i thought there is no sound
[16:18] <Raceman> Okay, thanks, that was the clue, PCM was 0% volume
[16:18] <Shadeslayer> then in your mixer set everything to high
[16:18] <Raceman> Did'nt know about that window ;p
[16:18] <Shadeslayer> :)
[16:18] <Raceman> Thanks a lot
[16:18] <Raceman> I'm new to (k)ubuntu
[16:18] <Shadeslayer> glad to help
[16:18] <Shadeslayer> same here
[16:18] <Raceman> as a desktop
[16:19] <Shadeslayer> migrated from Vista a week ago
[16:19] <Raceman> me to, 3 days ago
[16:19] <Raceman> but new years day etc, did'nt had time till now to play with it
[16:19] <johannes__> BluesKaj: it doesnt find anything, but thanks!
[16:19] <Shadeslayer> Upgrade to KDE 4.2 as soon as possible
[16:19] <Shadeslayer> much better than 4.1
[16:20] <Raceman> Most of the things are working now, exept wifi. And the video support could be better by nvidia
[16:20] <Raceman> Yes? I guess I've 4.1. downloaded an is with Kubuntu 8.10
[16:20] <Shadeslayer> DaSkreech:searched on the bugs site and found that many had the same problem
[16:21] <DaSkreech> Raceman: 4.2 is in the topic
[16:21] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: Any insight?
[16:21] <Raceman> DaSkreech: okay, thanks
[16:21] <Shadeslayer> Raceman:i would highly recommend you to upgrade to 4.2
[16:21] <Shadeslayer> reading them
[16:22] <Shadeslayer> thats all i can do
[16:22] <Shadeslayer> :D
[16:22] <Raceman> It's still beta right?
[16:22] <Shadeslayer> i think 4.1 is in Beta :D,its really much better than 4.1
[16:23] <Bauldrick> good new year! can someone help me fix/install java on my sytem?
[16:23] <Shadeslayer> and for the wifi right click on network manager,disable your wifi and reenable
[16:23] <Raceman> Shadeslayer: okay, I'll follow the instructions, hope the video support is better
[16:23] <Shadeslayer> which drivers are you using???
[16:24] <Raceman> latest nvidia
[16:24] <Shadeslayer> DaSkreech:look at this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron630m
[16:24] <Shadeslayer> Raceman:Version please
[16:25] <Raceman> Shadeslayer:  just a sec, i'm looking for it
[16:26] <Shadeslayer> DaSkreech:its a known problem so maybe just a reconfiguration is required
[16:26] <DaSkreech> Mayb
[16:26] <Raceman> Shadeslayer: NVidia binary X.Org drivers ('Version 177' driver)
[16:26] <Shadeslayer> yup those are the latest
[16:27] <Raceman> Maybe I could better buy another laptop. Is ATI better supported?
[16:28] <Shadeslayer> DaSkreech:ill just try to find a guide to reconfigure those keys
[16:28]  * DaSkreech nods
[16:28] <Shadeslayer> Raceman:Which one do you have rught now??
[16:28] <Raceman> a HP Pavillion dv9850ed
[16:28] <Shadeslayer> thanke for the help
[16:29] <Shadeslayer> I think ATI and nVidia are equally supported
[16:29] <Raceman> ok
[16:32] <Raceman> I guess Adept is downloading 4.2
[16:32] <Raceman> Yesterday I upgraded to Open Office 3, that one is crashing at startup of any of the applications
[16:33] <Shadeslayer> hey did the wi fi work
[16:33] <Raceman> the wifi? no, not yet
[16:34] <Shadeslayer> even after reenabling it???
[16:37] <Raceman> Don't know how to do that, but if i'm looking within a terminal with the command ifconfig, it is'nt displaying the interface
[16:37] <Raceman> So I guess it does'nt recognize the wifi hardware by default
[16:40] <Shadeslayer> DaSkreech:im following this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HotkeyResearch but method 2,3,and 4 dont seem to work
[16:42] <Raceman> I'm going to restart KDE, hope it's upgrading well
[16:42] <Raceman> brb
[16:42] <Shadeslayer> good luck
[16:43] <Shadeslayer> and BTW just log out and log in again
[16:43] <Shadeslayer> it restarts KDE
[16:43] <DaSkreech> I'm not sure how active the Ubutnu laptop team is
[16:43] <DaSkreech> Doh!
[16:43] <DaSkreech> that's not how you do it :)
[16:43] <DaSkreech> you logout then press ^E then login
[16:43] <DaSkreech> Ah well shouldn't kill him
[16:44] <Shadeslayer> well nothing happened to mine
[16:44] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: try #ubuntu-laptop
[16:44] <DaSkreech> I don't think it would it's just cleaner
[16:44] <Shadeslayer> hmm,will try
[16:45] <Shadeslayer> That IRC is not for support,
[16:47] <DaSkreech> Yeah but you can ask if it's expected to work in Ibex or Jaunty :)
[16:48] <Shadeslayer> k
[16:49] <Shadeslayer> BTW i also found this:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi/+bug/180822 the laptop is same as the M1530
[16:50] <Raceman> Shadeslayer: Thanks, kde 4.2 looks great. Only my MSN contacts are not be displaiyng in kopete
[16:51] <Raceman> But I've to go away for now, will take a look for that later
[16:51] <Raceman> thanks again. bye
[16:51] <Shadeslayer> ok,bye
[16:51] <DaSkreech> Raceman: I think that MSN is broken A package will be provided shortly as per apachelogger's blog for that
[16:51] <Shadeslayer> Daskreech:Why dont they Gtalk to Kopete??
[16:52] <DaSkreech> What?
[16:52] <Shadeslayer> google talk on Kopete
[16:52] <DaSkreech> It works
[16:52] <apachelogger> DaSkreech: should be working in intrepid 4.2 already
[16:52] <DaSkreech> I'm using it now
[16:52] <apachelogger> only neon and jaunty don't have msn
[16:52] <DaSkreech> apachelogger: Beta 2 ?
[16:52] <apachelogger> yes
[16:52] <apachelogger> at least I told JontheEchidna to add msn support ;-)
[16:53] <Shadeslayer> DaSkreech:How did you manage that
[16:53] <apachelogger> Shadeslayer: http://userbase.kde.org/Google_Talk_support
[16:53] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: Use XMPP and go to the connections tab then ... damn you apachelogger
[16:54]  * apachelogger hugs DaSkreech
[16:54]  * DaSkreech beams
[16:54]  * apachelogger thinks about adding a fake google talk plugin
[16:54] <DaSkreech> I'll allow You being uber awesome this year :)
[16:54] <DaSkreech> Yeah everyone keeps saying they should like Pidgin
[16:55] <DaSkreech> I'd prefer just a XMPP/Gtalk with a button on it that sets the right stuff
[16:55] <DaSkreech> That way people know more about XMPP they can see Gtalk easily and if you want to fiddle you can and if you don't you press the button and it works
[16:56] <DaSkreech> Hi tackat
[16:56] <DaSkreech> How spins the marble?
[16:56] <tackat> hi DaSkreech
[16:56] <DaSkreech> one more laparound the sun!
[16:56] <apachelogger> hehe
[16:56] <tackat> trying to get it rolling
[16:56] <DaSkreech> boredandblogging: Dangerous combo :)
[16:57] <boredandblogging> DaSkreech: very
[16:57] <tackat> DaSkreech: I discovered that boredandwatchingyoutube is even more so
[16:58] <DaSkreech> tackat: boredandlinksurfingwikipedia is about as bad
[16:58] <apachelogger> wth is bored?
[16:59] <Shadeslayer> Hurrah for Kopete
[16:59] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: logged in
[16:59] <Shadeslayer> :D
[16:59] <Shadeslayer> yess
[17:00] <Shadeslayer> BTW no one answere me till now in #ubuntu-laptop
[17:00] <Shadeslayer> *answered
[17:00] <Shadeslayer> Damn this keyboard
[17:01] <Shadeslayer> enough is enough im reporting the bug
[17:02] <DaSkreech> Yay! :-)
[17:02]  * apachelogger finished building koffice 2 beta 5 \\o/
[17:02] <DaSkreech> apachelogger: While yo uare here What's up with keyboard shortcuts in Ibex?
[17:02] <apachelogger> DaSkreech: what kind of shortcuts?
[17:03] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: Thats you
[17:03] <Shadeslayer> apachelogger:the Scroll lock,sys rq ,etc
[17:04] <Shadeslayer> for eg i wish to enable scroll lock the key is:fn+numlk
[17:04] <Shadeslayer> but it wont work
[17:04] <Shadeslayer> works only for dell Vostros till now,AFAIK
[17:05] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: I did add msn support for Intrepid :)
[17:06] <apachelogger> hm
[17:07] <apachelogger> Shadeslayer: maybe try another keyboard layout ... menu -> systemsettings -> regional -> keyboard layout
[17:07] <apachelogger> there you should be able to select a keyboard model
[17:08] <Shadeslayer> ive tried all of them
[17:08] <apachelogger> no clue then
[17:08] <Shadeslayer> they simply do not work
[17:08] <apachelogger> well, they probably do, they just don't have a function assigned
[17:08] <apachelogger> Shadeslayer: start the application xev on a console
[17:08] <Shadeslayer> i ve got every other Dell Keyboard there,but not one for an XPS
[17:09] <Shadeslayer> sure
[17:09] <apachelogger> when you trigger scroll lock it should output a keycode
[17:09] <Shadeslayer> should i paste it in Paste??
[17:10] <SSJ_GZ> tackat: Quick question - how do I get the cloud cover to appear in Marble?
[17:10] <SSJ_GZ> tackat: Gah - unping - it suddenly just appeared! :)
[17:10] <apachelogger> Shadeslayer: please
[17:11] <Shadeslayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/97733/
[17:11] <tackat> SSJ_GZ: there's an option under "View" ... but it will only work for 24bit maps and of course only if there's an internet connection to download the latest cloud cover
[17:12] <SSJ_GZ> tackat: Yep, had that checked and was using satellite view - I guess it just took a while to download :)
[17:18] <Bowser> whatś a good website that might have some old hardware on it, something like newegg but has older cards as well
[17:19] <Bowser> all I can find is amazon lol, I just need something that shows specs
[17:19] <Shadeslayer> apachelogger:any idea whats the problem
[17:19] <DaSkreech> tackat: I showed marble on a national TV show here Luckily we had a hurricane coming
[17:20] <sgroi135> Any help pls. I am runnin 8.10 system froze had to restart now on restart my task bar is not full screen.  Running with 19 in wide screen monitor.  Full screen is being used except for the menu bar.  Any ideas?
[17:21] <DaSkreech> The menu bar?
[17:21] <Shadeslayer> sgroi135:i think it might be a KDE problem also ask in #kde
[17:21] <sgroi135> yes sorry
[17:22] <Shadeslayer> sgroi135:im not sure,but just have a look around their too
[17:22] <jussi01> sgroi135: you havent tried resizing the menu bar?
[17:23] <jussi01> !away > Ellana
[17:23] <sgroi135> jussi01 i guess i am stupid, i am new to kde.
[17:24] <sgroi135> lol
[17:24] <truenex> hola a todos :)
[17:24] <jussi01> !es | truenex
[17:24] <apachelogger> Shadeslayer: hm, it is detected properly
[17:24] <truenex> ok , sorry :)
[17:24] <Shadeslayer> so its just not configured??
[17:25] <truenex> my inglish is bad xDDDD
[17:25] <sgroi135> jussi01   thank. i got it now..
[17:25] <sgroi135> TY
[17:25] <apachelogger> Shadeslayer: well, what do you want to do with it?
[17:25] <Shadeslayer> if it can ber repaired please help me
[17:26] <Shadeslayer> i have already filed a bug report
[17:26] <Shadeslayer> *be
[17:26] <jussi01> sgroi135: :D
[17:27] <apachelogger> Shadeslayer: there is just no function assigned
[17:27] <apachelogger> to my knowledge only konsole uses (or maybe even used) scroll lock
[17:27] <Shadeslayer> im going to write a guide on how to install Kubuntu 8.10 on notebookreview.com,it would be really helpful
[17:28] <Shadeslayer> so i need to know all the problems stand corrected if any
[17:28] <apachelogger> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scroll_lock
[17:28] <apachelogger> scroll lock just doesn't get used for anything
[17:29] <apachelogger> Shadeslayer: what do you expect to do using scroll lock?
[17:30] <Shadeslayer> i have no idea,just was trying to see if everything works
[17:30] <apachelogger> ah :D
[17:31] <apachelogger> Shadeslayer: scroll lock is an obsolete key, it doesn't do anything in most cases as seen on the wikipedia page
[17:31] <apachelogger> same applies for sysrq
[17:31] <Shadeslayer> hmmmm
[17:31] <Shadeslayer> and what about the battery key
[17:31] <Shadeslayer> Fn+F2
[17:31] <Shadeslayer> F3
[17:32] <DaSkreech> apachelogger: Scroll lock works on the terminal
[17:32] <apachelogger> Shadeslayer: doesn't work in 8.10
[17:32] <apachelogger> Shadeslayer: most of these special keys will not work in 8.10 because the subsystem is pretty much broken
[17:32] <apachelogger> DaSkreech: that is about everything
[17:32] <Shadeslayer> that is just too bad
[17:32] <Shadeslayer> thanks for the help
[17:33] <apachelogger> DaSkreech: and also obsolete considering screen up/down IMHO
[17:33] <DaSkreech> Deprecated :)
[17:33] <apachelogger> aye
[17:33] <DaSkreech> apachelogger: Is that supposed to be fixed
[17:34] <apachelogger> DaSkreech: what?
[17:34] <DaSkreech> Is anyone working on the subsystem?
[17:34] <apachelogger> DaSkreech: already is AFAIK
[17:34] <DaSkreech> So 4.2 will be fixed?
[17:34] <DaSkreech> Or 4.3 ?
[17:35] <apachelogger> 4.2
[17:35] <apachelogger> we just need to fiddle with the assignment to functions
[17:35] <Shadeslayer> apachelogger:are you on the development team??
[17:35] <apachelogger> + stuff like the battery key need to be patched into Qt because it uses a static definition of key codes IIRC
[17:35] <apachelogger> Shadeslayer: yes
[17:35] <yao_ziyuan> can anyone apt-file search kdecoration.h for me?
[17:36] <apachelogger> kdebase-workspace-dev
[17:36] <Shadeslayer> just wanted to thank the team for the 3-D Cube
[17:36] <apachelogger> that is a guess though ;-)
[17:36] <Shadeslayer> its awesome
[17:36] <DaSkreech> And useless :)
[17:36] <apachelogger> Shadeslayer: you should really thank the people in #kwin for that :)
[17:37] <Shadeslayer> who cares about use nowadays,all people care is the bling of the OS
[17:37] <apachelogger> DaSkreech: we gotta do something
[17:38] <DaSkreech> apachelogger: Which is?
[17:38] <Shadeslayer> when i used KDE 3.5,my freinds used to say that it looks like win 98,etc,etc
[17:38] <apachelogger> DaSkreech: the games forced so much performance on us... not using it would be wast eof resource
[17:38] <Shadeslayer> so true
[17:38] <apachelogger> DaSkreech: that would also be the use case of bling ... keeping the hardware busy ;-)
[17:38] <DaSkreech> Ha ha
[17:38] <Shadeslayer> :0
[17:38] <Shadeslayer> :)
[17:39] <yao_ziyuan> apachelogger: love you baby
[17:40] <Shadeslayer> hey now my has started to jump forward and backwars
[17:40] <Shadeslayer> d
[17:40] <DaSkreech> yao_ziyuan: Groupie!
[17:40] <Shadeslayer> *backward
[17:41] <Shadeslayer> appachelogger:which keyboard layout would be the best for me??
[17:41] <yao_ziyuan> i'm wading through compiling polyester, crystal and qtcurve for qt4
[17:43] <yao_ziyuan> works now
[17:43] <apachelogger> yao_ziyuan: feel free to join https://edge.launchpad.net/~we-love-harald then ;-)
[17:43] <apachelogger> Shadeslayer: default ;-)
[17:44] <Shadeslayer> DaSkreech:Please add support for the Dell XPS series
[17:44] <yao_ziyuan> harald? dunno
[17:44] <yao_ziyuan> i "make install" crystal but it doesn't appear in the Windows style list
[17:44] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: What is jumping?
[17:44] <apachelogger> <= harald :P
[17:44] <Shadeslayer> apachelogger:there's no default,ive messed with it so much i dont remeber which is the default
[17:44] <apachelogger> yao_ziyuan: you will probably have to restart systemsettings
[17:45] <apachelogger> Shadeslayer: well, just deactivate the stuff in systemsettings -> regional -> keyboard layout
[17:45] <Shadeslayer> well like im typing and the cursor of the keyboard starts jumping
[17:45] <apachelogger> that will throw you back to system default
[17:45] <yao_ziyuan> apachelogger: maybe it's installed to the wrong directory?
[17:45] <Shadeslayer> thanks
[17:46] <Shadeslayer> it occurs randomly
[17:46] <apachelogger> yao_ziyuan: possible ... what does make install say?
[17:46] <yao_ziyuan> -- Install configuration: "RelWithDebInfo"
[17:46] <yao_ziyuan> -- Installing: /usr/local/lib/kde4/kwin3_crystal.so
[17:46] <yao_ziyuan> -- Set runtime path of "/usr/local/lib/kde4/kwin3_crystal.so" to "/usr/local/lib"
[17:46] <yao_ziyuan> -- Installing: /usr/local/share/apps/kwin/crystal.desktop
[17:46] <yao_ziyuan> -- Installing: /usr/local/lib/kde4/kwin_crystal_config.so
[17:46] <yao_ziyuan> -- Set runtime path of "/usr/local/lib/kde4/kwin_crystal_config.so" to "/usr/local/lib"
[17:46] <yao_ziyuan> kwin3...
[17:46] <yao_ziyuan> but there is also kde4
[17:46] <apachelogger> yao_ziyuan: please use paste.ubuntu.com
[17:46] <Shadeslayer> its still occuring
[17:46] <yao_ziyuan> ok
[17:47] <vallic> hello all, is there any way to use eclipse for php developing? help me please
[17:47] <apachelogger> yao_ziyuan: sudo make uninstall -> ccmake -> change the CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX to /usr -> press c -> press g -> press e -> make && sudo make install
[17:47] <apachelogger> Shadeslayer: relogin
[17:47] <Shadeslayer> will do
[17:48] <yao_ziyuan> how to "change the CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX to /usr"?
[17:48] <apachelogger> using ccmake
[17:48] <apachelogger> or you re-run cmake with -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr
[17:49] <robinr> vallic: there is PDT
[17:49] <vallic> and what is this?
[17:49] <vallic> PDT?
[17:49] <yao_ziyuan> apachelogger: plz give me a ccmake command line
[17:49] <apachelogger> ccmake
[17:50] <apachelogger> yao_ziyuan: it is an app with CLI
[17:50] <rohan> still occurs
[17:50] <apachelogger> yao_ziyuan: you can also install cmake-gui and use that instead of ccmake
[17:50] <yao_ziyuan> apachelogger: what arguments should i attach to ccmake
[17:50] <RobertLaptop> I need to install using something other then CD rom.  I found https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/installation-guide/amd64/boot-usb-files.html but it isn't clear what Ubuntu archives is?
[17:50] <apachelogger> none
[17:51] <yao_ziyuan> apachelogger: then it automatically "change the CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX to /usr"?
[17:51] <apachelogger> RobertLaptop: download the packages via packages.ubuntu.com
[17:51] <rohan> www.pendrivelinux.com might be the answer
[17:52] <RobertLaptop> What package?  Is there a package call Ubuntu archives?
[17:52] <apachelogger> yao_ziyuan: dude, just run ccmake and you'll understand
[17:52] <Shadeslayer> the cursor jump still occurs
[17:52] <yao_ziyuan> apachelogger: ccmake gave me its help information
[17:53] <yao_ziyuan> apachelogger: particularly, it says:  -D <var>:<type>=<value>     = Create a cmake cache entry.
[17:53] <apachelogger> yao_ziyuan: run ccmake in the directory you did make install in
[17:53] <yao_ziyuan> ok
[17:53] <apachelogger> Shadeslayer: I really can't imagine what this would look like
[17:54] <Shadeslayer> DaSkreech:its not the mouse cursor,its the keyboard
[17:54] <apachelogger> hm
[17:54] <yao_ziyuan> apachelogger: my ccmake showed its help information and then quit and didn't give me a chance to press c, g, e
[17:54] <Shadeslayer> Appachelogger:its like this im typing,the cursor goes back automatically and im still typing the words get jumbled up
[17:55] <apachelogger> RobertLaptop: why don't you just do the easy way?
[17:56] <apachelogger> yao_ziyuan: funny ... just run cmake with -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr then
[17:56] <yao_ziyuan> i'm installing cmake-gui
[17:56] <apachelogger> yao_ziyuan: if ccmake doesn't do anything cmake-gui won't either
[17:56] <yao_ziyuan> ok
[17:56] <apachelogger> Shadeslayer: is something messing with your touchpad maybe? ;-)
[17:57] <RobertLaptop> I want to install ubuntu-mythtv
[17:57] <Shadeslayer> uhh,no i am using an external mouse
[17:57] <yao_ziyuan> apachelogger: works now
[17:58] <Shadeslayer> appachelogger:tell me one thing why is it that some of the Dell keyboards ae listed while some are not??
[17:59] <Shadeslayer> the above was the perfect example of a missing keystrokei pressed'r' even when
[17:59] <Shadeslayer> look it happened again
[17:59] <apachelogger> Oo
[17:59] <apachelogger> very weird
[17:59] <DaSkreech> !mythtv
[18:00] <robinr> vallic: http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/
[18:00] <apachelogger> Shadeslayer: only keyboards are listed for which appropriate layout files are available
[18:01]  * yao_ziyuan drinks ice tea
[18:01] <apachelogger> Shadeslayer: please try a reboot to fix your issue
[18:01] <Shadeslayer> so is it possible to make a keyboard layout file,im willing to try
[18:01] <Shadeslayer> will do
[18:02]  * Nikola is noob.
[18:03] <DaSkreech> !welcome
[18:04]  * DaSkreech hugs Nikola
[18:05] <rohan> ok restarted
[18:05] <Shadeslayer> ok restarted
[18:05] <Shadeslayer> this time something crashed
[18:05] <Shadeslayer> :D
[18:05] <apachelogger> oh dear
[18:05] <Shadeslayer> pasting the code
[18:07] <Shadeslayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/97763/  it was the plasma workspace
[18:07] <DaSkreech> yay plasma :)
[18:07] <DaSkreech>  Did you have a internet related Plasmoid on it?
[18:07] <DaSkreech>  Weather or Comics?
[18:07] <Shadeslayer> have none of them on my deskto
[18:07] <Shadeslayer> *desktop
[18:07] <DaSkreech> ok
[18:08] <Shadeslayer> coz i know theyre broken ;)
[18:08] <DaSkreech> That's the only time I have gotten a crash
[18:08] <yao_ziyuan> qtcurve is available for both gtk+ and qt3/qt4, awesome
[18:08] <yao_ziyuan> so i can use a consistent look without gtk-qt-engine
[18:09] <Shadeslayer> oh great my legs all cramped up,will be back in a sec :D
[18:12] <Dragnslcr> DaSkreech- I had plasma complete break on me yesterday. Even restarting didn't help. I had to move my plasma config files and let it build from the defaults to get back to a useable desktop
[18:12] <Shadeslayer> DaSkreech:did you look at my paste???
[18:12] <Shadeslayer> ]
[18:15] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: Ok that's pretty borked. did it restart itself ?
[18:15] <Shadeslayer> yes
[18:15] <DaSkreech> OK
[18:16] <Shadeslayer> so is that just a normal crash or a serious one
[18:18] <Shadeslayer> KDE 4.1 used to be worse,the whole screen used to get inverted,had to press Fn+F8 a few times and it used to correct itself
[18:18] <Shadeslayer> Keyboard looks fine now
[18:18] <DaSkreech> \0/
[18:19] <Shadeslayer> thats one of the reasons i upgraded
[18:19] <Dragnslcr> I still miss the burn animation from Compiz
[18:20] <vallic> how can i enter this chat from windows?
[18:20] <DaSkreech> !irc
[18:20] <DaSkreech> Grr
[18:20] <DaSkreech> vallic: chatzilla or mirc
[18:20] <DaSkreech> Or pidgin
[18:21] <vallic> i want from pidgin
[18:21] <vallic> but i dont know how to install it
[18:21] <DaSkreech> vallic: You don't know how to install pidgin ?
[18:21] <Shadeslayer> any idea how to stop that crash
[18:21] <Shadeslayer> vallic::D
[18:22] <vallic> i dont, can you help me?
[18:23] <Shadeslayer> http://www.pidgin.im/
[18:23] <DaSkreech> vallic: go to htp://pidgin.im
[18:23] <DaSkreech> +t
[18:27] <beto> slt
[18:27] <Shadeslayer> hey i have to leave in 15 min,if somebodcrash else ill goy is looking into that
[18:27] <Shadeslayer> Not again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:27] <DaSkreech> plasma broke?
[18:28] <Shadeslayer> yes
[18:28] <DaSkreech> What video card?
[18:28] <Shadeslayer> and keyboard broke
[18:28] <Shadeslayer> nVidia 8600MGT
[18:28] <DaSkreech> Driver?
[18:28] <Shadeslayer> 177
[18:28] <DaSkreech> That should have some fixes though the next one should have some KDE specific fixes
[18:29] <Shadeslayer> so whens the next one expected???
[18:29] <DaSkreech> when it's out
[18:29] <Shadeslayer> and is it just me or does the taskbar not touch the bottom of the screen
[18:30] <Shadeslayer> thats what im asking when will it be out
[18:30] <DaSkreech>  I can't see your screen so I can't tell
[18:30] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: Write to nVidia and ask them
[18:30] <DaSkreech> They can be a few weeks to a few months between releases
[18:30] <Shadeslayer> well its a fine line of about 3-4 pixels
[18:30] <Shadeslayer> got it
[18:31] <Shadeslayer> and KDE 4.2 is expected in which week of january???
[18:32] <DaSkreech> third I think
[18:32] <DaSkreech> RC 1 shoudl be out on 6th
[18:32] <Shadeslayer> that is good news
[18:33] <DaSkreech> Until you get 4.2 and they start talking about 4.3 and you suddenly really really really want 4.3 :(
[18:33] <Shadeslayer> so the plasma crash is due to the drivers,the keyboard wont work properly,i am starting to like this OS
[18:33] <Shadeslayer> yeah
[18:33] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: not sure if that's from the drivers looks like a Qt lib
[18:33] <DaSkreech> But nothing too worrying
[18:34] <Shadeslayer> English please!!!
[18:34] <DaSkreech> Just surprised it came from that low down
[18:34] <Shadeslayer> im a noob
[18:34] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: Above the Driver level but below the user interface level
[18:34] <Shadeslayer> understood
[18:35] <DaSkreech> Could have been triggered by a driver issue but that's what reported the crash
[18:35] <Shadeslayer> something like the utility programs
[18:35] <Shadeslayer> what if i get it again??
[18:36] <Shadeslayer> is there any fix for it???
[18:36] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: Well you could try a sudo apt-get install --reinstall plasma
[18:36] <Shadeslayer> will try
[18:36] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: I've not seen that kinda crash in a while could just be packages instaleld badly
[18:36] <DaSkreech> But I'd say RC1 is close enough to install that and see if it works better
[18:37] <Shadeslayer> ya well i had to install Kubuntu 8.10 twice,since it botched up on the first try
[18:38] <Shadeslayer> couldnt find plasma
[18:38] <Shadeslayer> E: Couldn't find package plasma
[18:39] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: you should just install kubuntu-desktop
[18:39] <Shadeslayer> how would that be done??
[18:39] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:40] <DaSkreech> it installs a default Kubuntu install
[18:40] <Shadeslayer> kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[18:40] <Shadeslayer> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[18:40] <DaSkreech> :-D
[18:41] <Shadeslayer> What happened??????
[18:41] <Shadeslayer> i think ill just use Vista for now and wait till RC1 is released
[18:41] <pop79> hi
[18:41] <Shadeslayer> !hi
[18:42] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: It's already installed
[18:42] <Shadeslayer> oh i get it now :D
[18:42] <DaSkreech> I was just saying if a package doesn't work when you do an install try installing kubuntu-desktop
[18:43] <Shadeslayer> and BTW i also installed C/C++ compilers and linkers,but how do i use them??
[18:43] <Shadeslayer> ill wait for RC1
[18:43] <Shadeslayer> in konsole????
[18:44] <DaSkreech> !compile | Shadeslayer
[18:44] <frk> hola buenas
[18:44] <frk> resaca?
[18:44] <DaSkreech> !es
[18:45] <vicaju> Olá
[18:46] <DaSkreech> Ola
[18:46] <Shadeslayer> I mean like basic C/C++ things such as classes,etc
[18:46] <Shadeslayer> Borlands C++
[18:46] <DaSkreech> umm
[18:46] <DaSkreech> you don't install classes
[18:46] <DaSkreech> !ide
[18:46] <Shadeslayer> to be exact
[18:47] <frk> someone spanish?
[18:47] <DaSkreech> !es | frk
[18:47] <DaSkreech> !kdevelop
[18:47] <DaSkreech> Hmm there is a factoid about this I know
[18:47] <Shadeslayer> i mean like borlands C/C++ which have a blue background
[18:49] <Shadeslayer> http://www.lenholgate.com/archives/images/BC31.png like this
[18:50] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: You want it in the terminal?
[18:50] <Shadeslayer> as an app or in terminal
[18:50] <Shadeslayer> anything which works
[18:51] <DaSkreech> kdevelop should work
[18:51] <jussi01> !code | Shadeslayer
[18:51] <DaSkreech> Emacs might also do what you want
[18:51] <DaSkreech> jussi01: how do I get the alternates for that?
[18:51] <Shadeslayer> ohhh have an idea
[18:51] <jussi01> !-code | DaSkreech
[18:51] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: Oh Kate works well
[18:52] <Shadeslayer> il use wine to run my windows executable
[18:52] <Shadeslayer> of Turbo C++
[18:52] <Shadeslayer> will check back in two minutes
[18:52] <DaSkreech> sah
[18:52] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: Try Kate
[18:52] <Shadeslayer> terminal command??
[18:53] <Shadeslayer> or adept??
[18:53] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: alt+F2 -> kate
[18:53] <Shadeslayer>  then??
[18:54] <Shadeslayer> just write my code??
[18:54] <Shadeslayer> what about compilation??
[18:54] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: There is a terminal button at the bottom. Press it and compile :)
[18:55] <Shadeslayer> Focus Terminal??
[18:55] <DaSkreech> Yeah I think
[18:56] <Shadeslayer> nope
[18:57] <Shadeslayer> a simple command such as printf("Testing") does not work
[18:58] <DaSkreech> How did you compile?
[18:58] <Shadeslayer> terminal button at the bottom
[18:59] <jussi01> hehe
[18:59] <DaSkreech> and what command did you use?
[18:59] <W8TAH> hi folks - how can i securely delete a user and all their files?
[18:59] <DaSkreech> Securely?
[18:59] <W8TAH> as in all stuff deleted
[18:59] <Shadeslayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/97786/
[18:59] <W8TAH> maybe completely is a better wrod
[18:59] <W8TAH> word
[19:00] <Shadeslayer> the code i wrote
[19:00] <Shadeslayer> in kate at the bottom there's a button "Terminal" i pressed it
[19:00] <DaSkreech> Right and how did you compile it?
[19:00] <Shadeslayer> in kate at the bottom there's a button "Terminal" i pressed it
[19:01] <DaSkreech> And got a terminal?
[19:01] <Shadeslayer> yes but nothing except user@laptop
[19:02] <DaSkreech> well save your file and try gcc filename -o nameofbinary
[19:02] <DaSkreech> so like gcc test.c -o hello
[19:02] <Guest21927> Hi!
[19:03] <DaSkreech> then you can ./hello
[19:03] <Guest21927> \nick MadMax
[19:03] <Shadeslayer> !hi
[19:03] <vallic> !hi
[19:03] <Dragnslcr> W8TAH- all their files would be in /home/username
[19:04] <vallic> how do i enter this chat from windows operating system?
[19:04] <Shadeslayer> DaSkreech:cant follow you
[19:04] <khakane> lol?
[19:04] <DaSkreech> !compile
[19:04] <DaSkreech> vallic: Install Pidgin
[19:04] <DaSkreech> vallic: Or if you have firefox use chatzilla
[19:04] <khakane> or if you have firefox use google
[19:05] <Shadeslayer> saved it  as gcc test.c -o hello
[19:05] <vallic> "if you have internet"
[19:05] <Shadeslayer> whats next??
[19:06] <jussi01> no!
[19:06] <MadMax74> Very interesting.....
[19:06] <Shadeslayer> this just got intersting
[19:06] <Shadeslayer> :D
[19:06] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: Ha ha no save it as test.c
[19:07] <Shadeslayer> ok
[19:07] <DaSkreech> then in the terminal you can compile it with gcc test.c -o hello
[19:07] <Shadeslayer> ohkkkk
[19:07] <DaSkreech> -o says you would like the output to be to that filename
[19:08] <Shadeslayer> ive saved it in my home folder so there's no problem ???
[19:08] <Shadeslayer> or should i save it in root??
[19:09] <DaSkreech> Home folder
[19:09] <Shadeslayer> no such file or directory :D
[19:11] <DaSkreech> hmm?
[19:11] <MadMax74> Once again trying install kubuntu and once again obtain an error with video card. Only safe mode avalable. :(
[19:11] <Shadeslayer> well i can see the object file
[19:12] <Shadeslayer> but hows that possible
[19:12] <Shadeslayer> ahh sorry thats a backup file
[19:13] <DaSkreech> MadMax74: after install?
[19:13] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: is it executable?
[19:13] <MadMax74> No. When trying boot from live CD
[19:13] <Shadeslayer> no its a backup file,with a green recycle bin logo on it
[19:14] <DaSkreech> MadMax74: If safe mode works you shoudl be ok
[19:14] <jussi01> MadMax74: which video card?
[19:14] <DaSkreech> Oh alright
[19:14] <test> hi guys
[19:14] <Shadeslayer> !hi
[19:14] <MadMax74> jussi01: Asus on 7600GT
[19:14] <Raposatul> dmesg
[19:14] <Raposatul> oh sorry
[19:15] <Raposatul> meant in the konsole
[19:15] <Shadeslayer> DaSkreech:what happened??
[19:15] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: http://www.network-theory.co.uk/docs/gccintro/gccintro_9.html
[19:16] <Shadeslayer> BTW will RC1 be available as an upgrade or an complete new CD torrent/download/etc.
[19:16] <DaSkreech> it iwll just come as an update
[19:17] <Raposatul> if anyone knows: is there a way to install kde3 on ubuntu 8.10 ?
[19:19] <hyper____ch> Raposatul: compile the repos yourself and do a base install withoutbui
[19:19] <hyper____ch> without gui
[19:20] <Shadeslayer> same problem
[19:20] <Shadeslayer> file not found
[19:20] <DaSkreech> Raposatul: Check the kubuntu forums there is a PPA there
[19:20] <MadMax74> May be motherboard... Did some know problems with Kubuntu and ASUS P5W DH Deluxe?
[19:20] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: What's the command you are using?
[19:20] <Shadeslayer> gcc -Wall test.c -o test
[19:20] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: By default I think everything is saved in ~/Documents what does pwd say ?
[19:21] <Shadeslayer> "/home/user"
[19:21] <DaSkreech> try cd Documents
[19:21] <DaSkreech> then up three times and compile again
[19:21] <Shadeslayer> done
[19:22] <Raposatul> DaSkreech where are these forums please ?
[19:22] <DaSkreech> !forums
[19:22] <Shadeslayer> same error
[19:22] <DaSkreech> ls shouls show you the files that are thre
[19:22] <Raposatul> DaSkreech, you mean the Kubuntu forums @ Ubuntu domain :)
[19:22] <Shadeslayer> ill try ls
[19:23] <hyper____ch> Raposatul: ubuntufourms... be warned, there are people like me on there ;)
[19:23] <MadMax74> Thanks... Bye!
[19:23] <DaSkreech> Raposatul: :-)
[19:23] <Shadeslayer> no sign of my files!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:23] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: ls ~
[19:23] <Raposatul> hyper____ch , what do you mean by that? :))
[19:23] <Reptile> how do i change the write permissions on my second harddrive
[19:24] <Shadeslayer> oops my bad
[19:24] <Shadeslayer> recompiling now
[19:24] <hyper____ch> Raposatul: :) nah, ubuntuforums is normally a nice place :)
[19:24] <hyper____ch> Reptile: what filesystem?
[19:24] <Shadeslayer> compiling done
[19:24] <Hans_Reiser_FREE> any Gentoo fans in here too? :)
[19:24] <Reptile> ntf
[19:25] <hyper____ch> Hans_Reiser_FREE: I guess they are in #gentoo
[19:25] <Reptile> i guess
[19:25] <Shadeslayer> Sucessssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:25] <hyper____ch> Reptile: don't guess, know
[19:25] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: Whooot
[19:25] <Shadeslayer> thanks for the help!!!
[19:25] <Reptile> how do i find out
[19:25] <Shadeslayer> Linux has taught me many new things
[19:25] <DaSkreech> compiling gcc is a good search in google :)
[19:25] <Shadeslayer> :D
[19:25] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: If you go a week without learning something new you aren't using linux right
[19:25] <hyper____ch> Reptile: sudo fdisk -l
[19:25] <Reptile> a noob I am, as Yoda would say
[19:26] <Shadeslayer> thanks,couldnt have done it without you
[19:26] <DaSkreech> Reptile:
[19:26] <DaSkreech> What's going on now?
[19:26] <Shadeslayer> thats a new thought
[19:26] <Shadeslayer> will it compile C++ too??
[19:27] <bobesponja> 2.6.28-4-generic
[19:27] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: It'll compile anything you throw at it
[19:27] <Shadeslayer> ahhhh,good old linux
[19:27] <Reptile> ok i did. what should it say
[19:29] <Reptile> hyper ?
[19:30] <Shadeslayer> hey cant get the iostream.h header file,any ideas??
[19:31] <Shadeslayer> looks like ill have to install those libraries myself
[19:31] <peterz> Shadeslayer: #include <iostream>, the .h was dropped a _long_ time ago
[19:31] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: try build-dep
[19:32] <Shadeslayer> i still used it my C++ programs in Vista
[19:32] <Shadeslayer> old habits die hard
[19:32] <peterz> the ms c++ compiler is one of the most shitty ones around
[19:32] <Shadeslayer> peterz:couldnt agree more
[19:33] <Shadeslayer> but here Windows is more popular
[19:33] <peterz> there's plenty real c++ compilers, even for windows
[19:33] <Shadeslayer> even in school all the desktops had XP
[19:33] <Shadeslayer> well i used Borlands C++
[19:34] <DaSkreech> peterz: gcc is actually pretty bad
[19:34] <Shadeslayer> DaSkreech:please explain
[19:34] <DaSkreech> It doesn't do very good optimization
[19:34] <DaSkreech> but then again it compiles everything on pretty much every platform
[19:34] <DaSkreech> so it's by far the most flexible and well known
[19:35] <Shadeslayer> build-dep do i write that in terminal
[19:36] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: never mind you probably have them already
[19:36] <Schuenemann> is there a howto about generating debian packages? I just compiled 2 programs and I want to avoid that pain next time
[19:36] <Shadeslayer> what the heck i know C,ill use it anyway
[19:36] <DaSkreech> Shadeslayer: When you are compiling for a package yo ucan do sudo apt-get build-dep packagename to install the source code
[19:36] <DaSkreech> needed to compile it
[19:36] <DaSkreech> if you just wwant the source code you can sudo apt-get install source packagename
[19:37] <DaSkreech> Schuenemann: Which packages?
[19:37] <Shadeslayer> the keyboard is at it agian
[19:37] <Schuenemann> DaSkreech, I want to generate a .deb from the program I compiled
[19:38] <DaSkreech> Schuenemann: try checkinstall
[19:38] <Shadeslayer> ok im off pretty late on this side of the world
[19:38] <simone_> ubuntu ita please?
[19:38] <DaSkreech> !it
[19:39] <Schuenemann> DaSkreech, but that is a program. It doesn't have any explanation
[19:39] <Shadeslayer> apachelogger:Can you do something for me please
[19:39] <simone_> !it
[19:41] <DaSkreech> Schuenemann: read the man page
[19:41] <Shadeslayer> apachelogger:in the next release of Kubuntu please add the facility to detect wireless signals automatically,like we have manual wireless switches on our laptops which just sit there while we fidle with the network manager
[19:43] <codex> hello everyone, can anyone direct me to a good tutorial on using iptables ?
[19:43] <Shadeslayer> bye everybody :D
[19:43] <codex> ...or a possible channel ?
[19:43] <DaSkreech> Bye!
[19:43] <explodingeardrum> I fixed my boot loader problem
[19:43] <DaSkreech> !iptables
[19:46] <Schuenemann> DaSkreech, do I have to run it right after compilation?
[19:46] <Schuenemann> that's something important man pages don't explain. Explaining the syntax and listing all the options is good for those who already know how the program works
[19:47] <Schuenemann> codex, http://security.maruhn.com/howto/
[19:47] <codex> thanks
[19:48] <dougl> I just installed 8.10 and installed nvidia drivers but my glxgears only reports 700 fps - how can I tell if my nvidia drivers are working correctyly?
[19:49] <DaSkreech> Schuenemann: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=howto+checkinstall&btnG=Search
[19:54] <dougl> what is the package manager for kubuntu 8.10?
[19:55] <jussi01> !info adept | dougl
[19:56] <dougl> jussi01 thanks :)
[19:59] <yao_ziyuan> my customized kde 4.2, screenshot: https://infowire.googlegroups.com/web/ubuntu-kde42.png?gda=G9wYB0IAAACOuAFZi1RaBlEyAECucUU2vz368PE1Lc4Hx6yz0ewWfbQ3nC8ntA55oOpBXGWFgDdV4u3aa4iAIyYQIqbG9naPgh6o8ccLBvP6Chud5KMzIQ&gsc=jvxu3RYAAADp4WnQL-21T3uCQwR2PcOQS7ibph5ftdNh9K_-frBgDg
[19:59] <jussi01> yao_ziyuan: Ive asked you before, please use #kubuntu-offtopic for things like that!
[19:59] <yao_ziyuan> p
[19:59] <yao_ziyuan> o
[19:59] <yao_ziyuan> forgot...
[20:00] <Ventus_> hello world, can u tell me how to join a password protected irc server with Konversation?
[20:00] <dougl> is there a way to customize kubuntu to look like a mac - osx leopard?
[20:01] <Schuenemann> Ventus_, servers window, edit, password
[20:02] <DaSkreech> !regiater
[20:02] <DaSkreech> !register
[20:02] <Schuenemann> or maybe /server servername password
[20:02] <Ventus_> ty Schuenemann :-)
[20:05] <isis__> hallo
[20:06] <isis__> kennt sich jemand mit kopete aus
[20:06] <isis__> ??
[20:06] <isis__> wieso kann ich meine spitznamen bei kopete für yahoo nicht ändern?
[20:08] <Tm_T> !de | isis__
[20:09] <isis__> aso oh thx
[20:12] <kevin_> Hello all, Can anyone tell me how to isntall 'Jave' on my kde system. 3.5.10
[20:13] <Tm_T> Jave?
[20:14] <kevin_> Tim/I meant Java. I was trying to enter a chat room, I seem to have no Java?
[20:14] <DaSkreech> !java
[20:15] <kevin_> I will look
[20:16] <kevin_> I think I might have been using adetp
[20:16] <kevin_> should  I use synaptic?
[20:17] <DaSkreech> Doesn't make a diference
[20:19]  * Tm_T wonders who is Tim
[20:27] <michael> Is anyone familiar enough with irc to understand error msgs?
[20:27] <dougl> michael: post it
[20:28] <jussi01> michael: depends, please tells us the error
[20:28] <stanley_> does alien come pre-installed on kubuntu 8.10??
[20:28] <jussi01> no!
[20:28] <michael> [03:28] [Error] Connection to Server chat.freenode.net  lost: name lookup has failed. Trying to reconnect.
[20:28] <jussi01> stanley_: NO! it doesnt
[20:29] <stanley_> how do i add the universe repository??
[20:29] <stdin> michael: that probably means you disconnected from your network
[20:29] <stdin> !universe
[20:29] <amelie> hi
[20:29] <michael> I'm trying to join the irc.freenode.net channel #opensync chat...but it won't connect. irc.freenode.net resolves to chat.freenode.net when I ping it.
[20:30] <amelie> recently i installed kubuntu 4.1
[20:30] <stdin> michael: well, you're on fireenode now
[20:30] <DaSkreech> amelie: You mean 8.10
[20:30] <amelie> and on the destop, it has a transparency that says "desktop"
[20:30] <DaSkreech> amelie: That's the Desktop folder
[20:30] <amelie> yes!
[20:30] <DaSkreech> You can point that to anything you like
[20:30] <michael> Oh...well...do I need to use port 8001 for freenode? This program defaults to 6667, though it isn't specified on the webpage.
[20:30] <amelie> but i tried to reinstall it on the desktop
[20:30] <amelie> and can't
[20:30] <mirec> jjjjjjj
[20:31] <amelie> can anybody help me?
[20:31] <DaSkreech> amelie: Tried to reinstall what?
[20:31] <amelie> the desktop.. on the desktop :)
[20:31] <amelie> it was like a transparent widget
[20:31] <DaSkreech> amelie: What did you do?
[20:31] <DaSkreech> Ok wait
[20:31] <DaSkreech> you removed that transparent widget?
[20:31] <amelie> yes
[20:32] <amelie> i accidentaly erased it
[20:32] <mirec> hallo
[20:32] <amelie> well, not exactly an accident; i was exploring
[20:32] <mirec> how do you do?
[20:32] <amelie> tried to reinstalled it, but coudn't find it from the widgets section
[20:32] <amelie> hi mirec
[20:33] <DaSkreech> amelie: It's called folderview
[20:33] <mirec> hi amelie
[20:33] <amelie> ok..i will look for it
[20:33] <amelie> thank you!
[20:33] <amelie> heheh
[20:33] <amelie> why i couln't find it before!
[20:33] <amelie> hahhaa
[20:33] <DaSkreech> amelie: :-)
[20:34] <amelie> actually i was looking for something called "desktop" hahah
[20:34] <DaSkreech> amelie: ;-)
[20:34] <michael> stdin: You said I'm on freenode now (and joining opensync seems to confirm it), but it's listed as ubuntu.com in the config, and freenode isn't accepting connections... any idea about that?
[20:34] <mirec> do you speak czech?
[20:34] <DaSkreech> !cz
[20:35] <DaSkreech> amelie: Alright I'm gone. Bye!
[20:36] <stdin> michael: irc.ubuntu.com is an alias for chat.freenode.net (CNAME)
[20:38] <amelie> thanks Dasckreech!
[20:38] <DaSkreech> amelie: Welcome if you need anything else come back :)
[20:38] <DaSkreech> stdin: Cute
[20:39] <stdin> humm?
[20:39] <DaSkreech> Your part message
[20:39] <amelie> sure I will!
[20:39] <amelie> see you...
[20:39] <amelie> bye
[20:39] <stdin> ah :)
[20:39] <jussi01> !tab | amelie
[20:40] <michael> Odd that I can get on through ubuntu but not through freenode...oh well...thanks.
[20:40] <stdin> make sure the hostname is right I guess, as chat.freenode.net has to be looked up when irc.ubuntu.com is
[20:43] <Hashishanin> Where does gcc search for library dependencies, that is, If I have a program which #includes "lua.h" where do I need to install the headers?
[20:48] <stdin> Hashishanin: do "touch foo.c; gcc -v -c foo.c" and look at the output
[20:48] <stdin> but the best place is /usr/local/include or /usr/include
[20:52] <david__> how do you get kwin to snow?
[20:58] <david__> is anyone on here?
[20:58] <jussi01> no
[20:58] <david__> lol
[20:59] <david__> can you make it snow on kwin?
[20:59] <jussi01> david__: I can enable it, but I dont...
[20:59] <jussi01> david__: but I am running 4.2 beta
[21:00] <david__> jussi01: hhow do i do that?
[21:00] <stdin> david__: the default is Meta+Ctrl+F12
[21:00] <stdin> with Meta being the Win key
[21:00] <david__> jussi01: i dont have the beta version can i still do it?
[21:00] <jussi01> heh, thats weird, seeems that that key combo is show dashboard... hrm
[21:01] <stdin> jussi01: that's Ctrl+F12, so maybe the meta key is not registering
[21:01] <Shaun> i want exploding windows on close to work! :(
[21:01] <stdin> and the snow works on 4.1.3
[21:02] <jussi01> stdin: ahh, its just one of my meta's that doesnt work
[21:02] <stdin> yeah, the's only one Meta, it's usually the left one
[21:26] <sd132> help, my menu's are just dashes
[22:00] <david__> does kubuntu 8.10 not have any screensavers?
[22:00] <Tm_T> does
[22:01] <david__> Tm_T: my system does not show any from default?
[22:01] <david__> Tm_T: were do i get them from?
[22:05] <david__> where do i get screensavers for kubuntu 8.10?
[22:05] <JontheEchidna> david__: the kscreensaver package has screensavers
[22:05] <david__> my system has none its a fresh install!
[22:07] <zerothis> Assultcube froze my mouse pointer, is there a way to refresh my pointer without rebooting?
[22:09] <david__> JontheEchidna: how do i get that package?
[22:09] <JontheEchidna> david__: sudo apt-get install kscreensaver
[22:10] <david__> JontheEchidna: ty very much
[22:11] <sourcemaker> how can I remove old kernel versions without clicking the remove flag in package manager?
[22:12] <hyper_ch> sourcemaker: you can remove them through the cli :)
[22:12] <david__> after 2 yrs of long hours i think im finally starting to understand linux!! woot!!
[22:12] <sourcemaker> hyper_ch: I know... but how is the command?
[22:13] <hyper_ch> sourcemaker: how do you install programs from the cli?
[22:13] <sourcemaker> the "new"  package manager in ibex is really bad in kde4
[22:16] <david__> JontheEchidna: Directory does not exist: "/usr/share/backgrounds"
[22:16] <JontheEchidna> ?
[22:16] <david__> JontheEchidna: what does that mean if it says this?
[22:17] <JontheEchidna> I don't know
[22:17] <Guest82826> AKO ZNAS SRPSKI PISI TAKO
[22:18] <Guest82826> IMA NEKO KO ZNA SRPSKI
[22:19] <Guest82826> DOBRO VECE SVIMA
[22:21] <dougl> david__: means it is looking for something at /usr/share/backgrounds and there is nothing there
[22:22] <stdin> !rs | Guest82826
[22:25] <Hashishanin> list
[22:29] <vallic> how to install windows?
[22:29] <stdin> ask in ##windows
[22:32] <david__> i insalled kscreensaver and it will not work could someone helpme?
[22:32] <Shadowkllr> I still can't figure this out. I changed the datadir in the my.conf file, but I can't restart mysql unless i stop apparmor first, then restart it after mySQL is running. I'm not familar with apparmor. Is there a way to allow mysql permission to the directory I specified?
[22:32] <Hashishanin> I'm using kubuntu, and I'm trying to compile a very simple hello world program using gcc, I type: "gcc hello.c" in the command prompt and it doesn't work. What's wrong?
[22:33] <stdin> Hashishanin: install build-essential
[22:33] <fernandopaschoet> galera tem algum forum legal em portugues sobre o kubuntu??
[22:35] <Hashishanin> what does build-essential provide?
[22:36] <Guest82826> KAKO DA SKINEM LINUX SA INTERNETA???????
[22:38] <fdoving> Shadowkllr: have a look at /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld
[22:39] <Shadowkllr> what am i looking for, fdov?
[22:40] <fdoving> Shadowkllr: you're looking for the old datadir path, and you want to make a similar line for your new datadir.
[22:41] <fdoving> Shadowkllr: you need to add a line similar to '/new/datadir/** rwk,'
[22:44] <Shadowkllr> do i change both? there is one that says (/var/lib/mysql/ r) and (/var/lib/mysql/** rwk,)....those were the defaults...do i change both to the new directory?
[22:44] <fdoving> Shadowkllr: i'd add a new one, not change the existing.
[22:44] <Shadowkllr> oh ok
[22:48] <Shadowkllr> sweet
[22:48] <Shadowkllr> that worked
[22:48] <Shadowkllr> =) thanks fdove
[22:52] <null_head> Hello.  Does anyone else have any trouble with KDEnlive?  I can't get video and audio to sync up.
[22:58] <peterone> exit
[22:58] <Koala_> hola tengo un grave problema acabo instalar kubuntu y nose que paso que andaba mirando escritorio para modificar
[22:58] <Koala_> y se ve en negro
[22:58] <Koala_> y solo veo el puntero
[22:58] <Koala_> he reiniciado y no tengo manera de volver a estado normal
[22:58] <Koala_> entro aqui por el cd live
[22:58] <Koala_> :(
[22:59] <Koala_> me pueden ayudar por favor?
[22:59] <Ratchet_the_fox> soo i have a problem and need some help.  I just got and instaled a PCI to SATA card and am trying to acess my external HDD but it doesnt see it. it does see the SATA card though so what do i need to do to fix this?
[23:00] <Koala_> jooo
[23:01] <wesley__> How can i install Kubuntu, when i dont have a cd drive ?
[23:03] <hyper_ch> !install
[23:03] <Koala_> S.O.S
[23:04] <stdin> !es | Koala_
[23:05] <Koala_> ubottu:  gracias
[23:05] <wesley__> Is there away to install a new system without cd ?
[23:05] <andypls1>  guys how can you know the number of visitors of a website, given its Alexa traffic rank?
[23:06] <stdin> !install | wesley__
[23:06] <stdin> there are a few ways
[23:06] <wesley__> !automate
[23:08] <Ratchet_the_fox> soo i have a problem and need some help.  I just got and instaled a PCI to SATA card and am trying to acess my external HDD but it doesnt see it. it does see the SATA card though so what do i need to do to fix this?
[23:08] <wesley__> Has someone ever build a mini itx? Because i am wonder how i can connect a pata cable
[23:18] <Ratchet_the_fox> soo i have a problem and need some help.  I just got and instaled a PCI to SATA card and am trying to acess my external HDD but it doesnt see it. it does see the SATA card though so what do i need to do to fix this?
[23:22] <doopydoop> One question. Is there a harddrive nuking program in ubuntu?
[23:24] <mister-tea-lapto> therer's acommand to wipe it but I don't know it and wouldn't share it if I did
[23:25] <mister-tea-lapto> too dangerous
[23:28] <doopydoop> It doesn't matter. I'm trashing the pc anyway
[23:28] <doopydoop> do you mind PMing me the command?
[23:28] <doopydoop> mister-tea-lapto:
[23:29] <mister-tea-lapto> I told you I don't know it but have read it someplace try google
[23:30] <jillsmitt> hi, how can i change root color set in my kde 3.5.9 on kubuntu&
[23:30] <jillsmitt> ?
[23:31] <jillsmitt> how can i change root color set in my kde 3.5.9 on kubuntu?
[23:31] <sebastian> what is the channel for ubuntu-eee?
[23:32] <mister-tea-lapto> what's eee?
[23:32] <sebastian> asus eee
[23:32] <jillsmitt> how can i change root color set in my kde 3.5.9 on kubuntu?
[23:32] <sebastian> ubuntu-eee
[23:32] <sebastian> search google
[23:33] <dthacker> !themes
[23:33] <dthacker> !changethemes
[23:35] <jillsmitt> dthacker: root? everything works, but only root applications have f***ng milky kubuntu 804 color scheme
[23:35] <jillsmitt> how can i change @@@root color set@@@ in my kde 3.5.9 on kubuntu?
[23:35] <dthacker> jillsmitt: are you logging in as root?
[23:36] <dthacker> or sudoing to root?
[23:36] <jillsmitt> dthacker: in kubuntu???
[23:36] <jillsmitt> nope i cant
[23:36] <jillsmitt> system say - no root login!
[23:36] <jillsmitt> only sudo <command>
[23:37] <dthacker> jillsmitt: when I sudo at the command line it doesn't affect my color scheme, but I'm on an older KDE
[23:37] <jillsmitt> dthacker: ok, how enable root account in kubuntu?
[23:37] <jillsmitt> and login under root
[23:38] <dthacker> !root
[23:38] <dthacker> hmm, thats not it....
[23:39] <jillsmitt> i cant login by root in my system - is it kubunut devs joke????
[23:39] <doopydoop> one last thing about bashing the harddrive. isn't that dangerous? And it can be done with a hammer?
[23:40] <jillsmitt> what a linux system is this? and how fix login root account?
[23:40] <dthacker> jillsmitt: no, it's not a joke. most of us use sudo
[23:40] <dthacker> jillsmitt: there are several steps, please check the forums,  I need to step away
[23:40] <jillsmitt> dthacker: okay, how with sudo change root color schemes?
[23:41] <jillsmitt> ok, everybody doesnt know...
[23:41]  * jillsmitt this is not support channel any more, kubuntu - is not right linux system i think... deb sucks
[23:41] <jillsmitt> thx bye