[03:34] <maco> is bazaar offline for maintainence?
[04:00] <maco> is bazaar offline? i cant view revisions of branches that i can see in my page on code.lp
[04:01] <Hobbsee> hrm.  I thought launchpad wasn't auto-expiring ubuntu bugs now?
[04:07] <crimsun> well, LH appears to not display the changesets, so my guess is "yes, it's down"
[04:08] <maco_> ok
[04:08] <crimsun> Hobbsee: it hasn't for the ones i've set to Incomplete that have passed the idle period
[04:09] <Hobbsee> crimsun: then why is it showing the notice that it will expire bugs if they don't get dealt with in X days?
[04:09] <maco> Hobbsee: is it saying itll expire them or that they'll be marked for expiration?
[04:09] <maco> if the latter, it'll just flag them as eligible for expiration, but it still requires manual intervention
[04:09] <crimsun> i see "will be marked for expiration..."
[04:10] <Hobbsee> oh, right
[04:10] <Hobbsee> yes, it's marked for expiration
[04:11] <Hobbsee> even though there's no UI marking for bugs that have been 'marked' for expiration, only in the advanced search.  OK, got it.
[04:25] <spm> crimsun: fyi and for maco if they return; source code browsing has been restarted (by one of the others SA
[04:25] <spm> 's)
[04:26] <spm> gah. must move return key elswehere on kb :-)
[04:27] <crimsun> spm: thank you
[10:27] <glade88> hi, I just wanted to know whether ubuntu rt ticket 3139 (brainstorm upgrade) is publicly viewable or not (username & passwd is known)
[10:29] <persia> glade88, They are at least widely viewable, although I'm not certain they are public, as such.
[10:30] <glade88> persia: the issue is, a user asks about "when it will be upgraded" and "well, maybe in 2-3 weeks" is an awful reply since I have been saying that since one month now
[10:30] <glade88> so can we throw them the link so that they can monitor themselves?
[10:32] <glade88> refer to: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/16801/
[10:32] <persia> I don't know of any link for them.
[10:33] <persia> Anyway, RT isn't really launchpad.
[10:34] <glade88> we can view the ticket as it was on the moderator ML.. in that case, I'll not provide the link publicly
[10:34] <glade88> ty
[14:05] <Kalidarn> any admins around?
[14:19] <savvas> Kalidarn: you might have better chances to actually get a reply if you say what's the problem :)
[14:20] <Kalidarn> yah ive kinda done that
[14:20] <Kalidarn> 5 or 6 times
[14:20] <Kalidarn> i just wanted to know if there was an admin for launchpad around to help me with a commit problem
[14:20] <Kalidarn> basically i commited some packages to my ppa with badly formatted names
[14:20] <Kalidarn> although ive deleted them, i can't commit any future versions with the proper style
[14:21] <Kalidarn> ie i had 0ubuntu1 in it, instead of 0ppa1
[14:21] <Kalidarn> this may cause problems if commited
[14:21] <savvas> Kalidarn: try asking here: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[14:21] <Kalidarn> later on, i was wondering if someone could just completely clean my commit log out
[14:21] <savvas> you might get a quicker reply heh
[14:21] <Kalidarn> some users in #ubuntu-motu
[14:21] <Kalidarn> recommended i ask in here
[14:21] <Kalidarn> something about some bug with launchpad i'd have to check my logs
[14:22] <Kalidarn> as ive kinda forgotten ;)
[14:22] <Kalidarn> exactly.
[14:22] <savvas> and you can't push the version to a newer one?
[14:22] <Kalidarn> that's correct
[14:22] <Kalidarn> it says it uploads the packages fine
[14:22] <Kalidarn> but they dont go anywhere
[14:22] <Kalidarn> i don't get any rejection email
[14:22] <Kalidarn> or accepted one
[14:22] <Kalidarn> initially i got a accepted one with the packages i had committed
[14:22] <savvas> so you removed them and tried with dput -f to upload it again?
[14:23] <Kalidarn> until some users in #ubuntu-motu that were more experienced told me i should change the style
[14:23] <Kalidarn> yeah
[14:23] <Kalidarn> ah i didn't use the -f switch
[14:23] <Kalidarn> i just used dput dcecchin-ppa mktorrent_0.9.9-0ppa1_source.changes
[14:23] <savvas> try with -f to force it
[14:24] <Kalidarn> it says it uploaded fine anyway
[14:24] <Kalidarn> but its not rebuilding them
[14:24] <savvas> what's your ppa? may i take a look? :)
[14:24] <Kalidarn> yeah
[14:24] <Kalidarn> ill just dig it up
[14:24] <Kalidarn> my brain is still on celebration freeze ;)
[14:25] <savvas> hehe
[14:25] <Kalidarn> https://launchpad.net/~dcecchin/+archive
[14:25] <Kalidarn> here we go
[14:25] <savvas> happy new year btw :P
[14:26] <Kalidarn> https://launchpad.net/~dcecchin/+ppa-packages
[14:26] <Kalidarn> its partly there
[14:26] <Kalidarn> there's no packages
[14:26] <Kalidarn> but its still got reference to the ones that were there
[14:26] <Kalidarn> something to do with
[14:26] <Kalidarn> that verion style
[14:27] <Kalidarn> being  mktorrent_0.9.9-0ppa1
[14:27] <Kalidarn> being less than what was used
[14:27] <Kalidarn> so launchpad would not accept it
[14:27] <savvas> hm
[14:27] <Kalidarn> and they mentioned i might have to do something like  mktorrent_0.9.9-0+cleaned-ppa1
[14:27] <savvas> you might need a new epoch
[14:27] <savvas> 1:0.9.9-0ppa1
[14:27] <Kalidarn> it would have been nice if an admin could use their powers to clean it for me ;)
[14:28] <Kalidarn> i was noob initially and hadn't realised
[14:28] <Kalidarn> it was irreversable
[14:28] <Kalidarn> that and i was also kinda new to the whole debian way
[14:28] <Kalidarn> of doing things :)
[14:30] <savvas> the new epoch number will push it upwards and will allow you to build it
[14:30] <savvas> It doesn't mean anything if your version is "dirty", you can clarify that in the changelog, at least until someone fixes it
[14:31] <Kalidarn> well it doesn't urgently need committing
[14:31] <Kalidarn> i was just doing it out of niceity for others who might have wanted it
[14:31] <Kalidarn> it can wait until someone helps me clean it i'd rather not make a mess of it
[14:31] <savvas> others will still see version 0.9.9 :)
[14:32] <Kalidarn> not that that has been linked anywhere
[14:32] <Kalidarn> i really only put it up so i would have a backup :P
[14:32] <savvas> by the way, you might have a better chance of asking to completely disable/delete your ppa configuration, so that you can re-enable it again afterwards
[14:32] <Kalidarn> yeah
[14:32] <Kalidarn> thats what i was asking
[14:33] <Kalidarn> if my ppa configuration could be completely cleared so i can redo it
[14:33] <Kalidarn> now i know better
[14:33] <savvas> backup? then send it to http://revu.ubuntuwire.net - maybe the package is good enough :)
[14:34] <savvas> I think you can create a team and make a PPA for your team about this software
[14:35] <savvas> https://edge.launchpad.net/people/+newteam
[14:39] <Kalidarn> i might just wait till people are in irc in feb :)
[14:39] <Kalidarn> and then ask
[14:39] <Kalidarn> less work for me ;)
[14:42] <savvas> well if you send it to revu, you are actually sharing your current work, you can update it anytime, with the same version
[14:42] <savvas> you can get good comments to improve your packaging skills
[14:44] <savvas> Kalidarn: you said you were sent here.. was that from #ubuntu-motu or answers at launchpad or.. both?
[14:44] <Kalidarn> from #ubuntu-motu
[14:44] <Kalidarn> from people that sounded fairly experienced
[14:44] <savvas> have you tried posting in answers?
[14:44] <Kalidarn> nah i havn't :P
[14:45] <savvas> I think things like this should go through there to be properly documented and answered :)
[14:45] <Kalidarn> because it's rather simple if the ppa could be cleared i could post it properly
[14:45] <Kalidarn> need to work with someone to find out more information about it
[14:45] <Kalidarn> cos im not exactly sure why its happening or whats causing it
[14:45] <savvas> then ask for ppa removal from http://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad :P
[14:46] <savvas> maybe it's better there, I've no idea, just suggesting :)
[14:46] <Kalidarn> yeah
[14:46] <Kalidarn> well
[14:46] <Kalidarn> will that remove only the ppa
[14:46] <Kalidarn> or anything else?
[14:47] <savvas> I've *no* idea :) there surely must be an admin checkmark to remove a user's ppa :P
[14:55] <Kalidarn> imma go to bed now
[15:07] <anilg> I learn that the bounty system was stopped on LP..
[15:07] <anilg> any recommendations on other good bounty systems that folks here recommend?
[15:12] <charlie-tca> Need a little help. I have bug 311977 in launchpad. The source package is xfdesktop4, but I get a notice
[15:12] <charlie-tca> asking if I want report it against xfce4 also. There is no option to say no. Where do I report this as
[15:12] <charlie-tca> as bug?
[15:14] <charlie-tca> as bug = a bug
[15:15] <persia> charlie-tca, At which URL did you get that notice?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfdesktop4/+bug/311977 or https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfce/+bug/311977 ?
[15:25] <charlie-tca> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4/+bug/311977
[15:25] <charlie-tca> is the one that gave the notice
[15:26] <persia> Oh, right.  That would do it.
[15:26] <persia> If you put in a URL that is for a different package for a bug, it offers to let you file it against that bug.
[15:27] <charlie-tca> But it does not give the option to say no. The only choice is to say yes.
[15:27] <persia> The bug number in the upper left was changed to a hyperlink to take you to the official bug URL, but it's not labeled as such.
[15:27] <persia> Right.  Just don't visit those pages: they should only be available by URL hacking anyway.
[15:28] <charlie-tca> OH! Thanks for that information. I see.
[20:29] <mahfouz> can somebody help with ppa archive uploading, I had a problem following the instructions?
[20:29] <mahfouz> I created .dput.cf like on the site and I got
[20:29] <mahfouz> > dput my-ppa scid_3.6.26_source.changes
[20:29] <mahfouz> No host my-ppa found in config
[20:31] <oojah> mahfouz: What does the fqdn line look like in .dput.cf?
[20:31] <oojah> Mine is "fqdn = ppa.launchpad.net"
[20:31] <mahfouz> fqdn = ppa.launchpad.net
[20:32] <mahfouz> [my-ppa]
[20:32] <mahfouz> fqdn = ppa.launchpad.net
[20:32] <mahfouz> method = ftp
[20:32] <mahfouz> incoming = ~b.a.koenig/ ubuntu/
[20:32] <mahfouz> login = Aspirador
[20:32] <mahfouz> allow_unsigned_uploads = 0
[20:32] <mahfouz> oops
[20:32] <mahfouz> forget about my password
[20:32] <mahfouz> I will have to change it now :)
[20:32] <razor1394> how to I remove my mail signature from launchpad?
[20:32] <razor1394> *do
[20:32] <razor1394> from my bug reports
[20:32] <mahfouz> razor1394: you can hide it
[20:33] <mahfouz> somewhere in the settings
[20:34] <oojah> mahfouz: The only difference I can see is that I have "login = anonymous"
[20:34] <oojah> But I can't see why that would affect the host.
[20:34] <mahfouz> I was wondering if "login " is always anonymous or if you have to plugin your own password?
[20:34] <oojah> Oh, is there really a space in "~b.a.koenig/ ubuntu/" ?
[20:34] <mahfouz> yeah, it doesn't even recognize the host
[20:35] <mahfouz> I tried without space also, but it doesnt even see the host
[20:35] <oojah> The files you're uploading are signed with your key, so you don't need a password.
[20:35] <mahfouz> aha
[20:35] <oojah> There should be no space though afaict.
[20:35] <mahfouz> but why doesnt it see my-ppa even though it's the first line?
[20:36] <oojah> I don't know.
[20:36] <mahfouz> do I have to run dput to read the config file?
[20:36] <oojah> .dput.cf is in your home directory presumably? :)
[20:36] <oojah> ie. ~/.dput.cf
[20:36] <mahfouz> not in home directory haha
[20:36] <mahfouz> silly me
[20:37] <mahfouz> :=)
[20:37] <razor1394> mahfouz: I have looked almost everywhere and I can't see any option like that. It's already burnt in to the post :/.
[20:37] <mahfouz> had too many terminals open
[20:38] <mahfouz> razor1394: did you try to go to profile and change settings?
[20:38] <mahfouz> razor1394: what do you mean burnt? :)
[20:40] <mahfouz> oojah: ok, now next problem > dput my-ppa scid_3.6.26_source.changes
[20:40] <mahfouz> Can't open /home/bkoenig/.scid/scid-3.6.26-sourceforge/scid_3.6.26_source.changes
[20:40] <mahfouz> I have a deb in my directory already
[20:40] <mahfouz> I simply want to upload the deb
[20:40] <mahfouz> but i have no file ending in source.changes
[20:40] <mahfouz> ?
[20:41] <oojah> mahfouz: Ah, you only upload source files to ppas.
[20:41] <andresmh> how can I check the last time a particular package  was updated, in particular this one: http://ppa.launchpad.net/dorins/ubuntu
[20:42] <mahfouz> oojah: I'm doing this for the first file, what is the source file? The executable?
[20:42] <oojah> andresmh: Try https://launchpad.net/~dorins/+archive
[20:42] <andresmh> thanks oojah
[20:43] <razor1394> mahfouz - "Hide my email addresses from other Launchpad users." That's all there is to it. I see no info of removing info in posts that are already posted.
[20:43] <mahfouz> razor1394: I thought it does that also
[20:44] <mahfouz> razor1394: in my case, it does not show the email address anymore, or which page do you mean?
[20:44] <oojah> mahfouz: Did you follow the PPA guide? https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[20:44] <andresmh> in general, for packages that are not part of Ubuntu (like http://ppa.launchpad.net/dorins/ubuntu ) would you recommend to add the launchpad PPA to the sources  or to just check from time to time the website of the particular software app?
[20:44] <mahfouz> oojah: thx, let me check again, I only checked the uploading part
[20:46] <mahfouz> oojah: so I have to use "debuild"?
[20:46] <oojah> Yes
[20:46] <oojah> You might also want to look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[20:46] <oojah> It's more of a pain in the bum than you're hoping, I'll bet :)
[20:47] <oojah> Well, at least the first time round.
[20:47] <mahfouz> well, I thought it would be simply since I already have the deb?
[20:47] <oojah> 'fraid not.
[20:47] <oojah> ppas only deal with the source - then they do the build themselves.
[20:47] <razor1394> mahfouz: I need to remove the sig put by gmail in the message itself.
[20:48] <mahfouz> razor1394: please show us what "message" you are talking about
[20:49] <oojah> razor1394: I'd open up a question on https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad - the right person will get a chance to help you then.
[21:06] <razor1394> oojah: Thanks. It seems there is no way even though users have requested this and It's understandable. There is also no way to remove your account only deactivate it.
[21:59] <ScottK> If the current revision of packages-arch-specific in use in Soyuz anywhere public?
[21:59] <ScottK> If/Is
[22:25] <fumanchu> hi exarkun
[22:26] <exarkun> hi
[22:27] <exarkun> happy new year :)
[22:27] <fumanchu> back at ya :)
[22:32] <fumanchu> any launchpad staff here got a minute to answer a couple private questions?
[22:38] <mahfouz> fumanchu: lol, cant imagine what's on your mind
[22:38] <fumanchu> I know how to mail beer if you need incentive... ;)
[22:39] <beuno> fumanchu, what's up?
[22:41] <fumanchu> pm