[00:53] <mikegriffin> dpkg --install --force-all libc6_2.9-0ubuntu5_i386.deb libgcc1_1%3a4.3.2-2ubuntu9_i386.deb gcc-4.3-base_4.3.2-2ubuntu9_i386.deb findutils_4.4.0-2ub
[00:53] <mikegriffin> untu3_i386.deb
[00:53] <mikegriffin> libc6-dev_2.9-0ubuntu5_i386.deb wo
[00:53] <mikegriffin> that worked it seems
[01:31] <mikegriffin> i had to mkdir /var/run/network to get online after a reboot into jj and it seems some stuff in /dev/ does not have the right perms
[01:31] <mikegriffin> ie null is 600 i think
[01:34] <crimsun> mikegriffin: no, 666
[01:35] <crimsun> /dev/{null,zero,*random} should all be mode 666
[01:36] <mikegriffin> yea the box rebooted without my permission during the upgrade, null was 600 and i had no net, i had to manually mkdir /var/run/networking to get back online
[01:37] <mikegriffin> it seems that some firefox and epiphany stuff did not complete but i am unsure what else might be wrong at this point
[01:38] <crimsun> sounds like ifupdown and netbase weren't upgraded and configured correctly
[01:38] <mikegriffin> does that explain the /dev/ problems?
[01:39] <crimsun> $ grep -nHE 'var/run/network' *
[01:39] <crimsun> loopback:16:	[ -d /var/run/network ] || mkdir /var/run/network
[01:39] <crimsun> networking:15:INIT_FLAG=/var/run/network/initialized
[01:39] <crimsun> $ dlocate /etc/init.d/loopback
[01:39] <crimsun> ifupdown: /etc/init.d/loopback
[01:39] <crimsun> crimsun@errno:/etc/init.d $ dlocate /etc/init.d/networking
[01:39] <crimsun> netbase: /etc/init.d/networking
[01:39] <crimsun> (i didn't encounter those issues)
[01:43] <mikegriffin> apt-get -f install seems to be very busy, i will chase down individual problems later
[01:43] <mikegriffin> crimsun: did you see my previous posts and the resolution?
[01:44] <crimsun> mikegriffin: probably not
[01:44] <crimsun> many of these issues are moving targets (i.e., likely are moot in the next few weeks)
[01:45] <mikegriffin> oh ok, i had to dpkg -i --force-all libc6 findutils and a few others before apt would get started
[01:46] <crimsun> ah, yeah, i always do that by hand first regardless
[01:46] <crimsun> the entire toolchain and its dependencies are always first updated when i do it by hand
[01:47] <mikegriffin> oh ok cool, took me a second to get the courage to --force-all
[01:48] <crimsun> i don't use that flag, however
[01:54] <mikegriffin> it was complaining about two things needing each other
[02:02] <mikegriffin> yes nvidia driver was broken, nv has my back. going to try another reboot now
[02:16] <mikegriffin> crimsun: one thing that keeps breaking stuff is tmp being noexec when i reboot, fixed fstab
[03:09] <mikegriffin> seems everything is good now
[03:44] <bazhang> !find open office
[03:44] <mikegriffin> thanks for an alpha that works better than some os release
[03:45] <bazhang> !find openoffice
[03:45] <mikegriffin> i think you meant apt-cache search openoffice | grep ^openoffice  :P
[03:45] <Arenlor> !find openoffice.org
[03:45] <mikegriffin> good day
[05:00] <Arenlor> Happy New Year
[05:38] <DanaG> Wed Dec 31 21:38:09 PST 2008
[05:47] <DanaG> Hmm, my USB sound card is interesting... in hal, it shows a tree: top level is "USB device"
[05:48] <DanaG> under that: Audio Control Interface, two Audio Streaming Interfaces, and a Hub Interface.
[05:48] <DanaG> Under the Control interface is the "USB Audio Sound Card", and below that, the ALSA Capture, Control, and Playback.
[05:50] <DanaG> Oh, and a HID interface at the same level as all the other Interfaces.
[06:27] <DanaG> ‏‫‏‫‏‫‏‫‮‏Happy New Year.‮‬‬
[06:27] <DanaG> =þ
[08:00] <DanaG> Happy New Year
[08:01] <DanaG> Woah.... I didn't type that myself. =þ
[08:01] <DanaG> Pidgin did for me... odd.
[08:02]  * DanaG wishes PulseAudio would make a HID device attached to an audio device... control _that_ audio device.
[09:52] <maco> anyone else have pidgin running but the FUSA is still showing the power icon and lacking IM status options?
[16:43] <SwedeMike> I installed alpha2 and did all current updates and now everything seems to work great on my Lenovo X200, it correctly detected the native screen resolution, everything worked out of the box, where 8.10 had (and still has) problems
[16:44] <SwedeMike> it also seems to be more energy efficient, vista gives me 9-10 hours of battery time, 8.10 5-6 hours, 9.04a seems to be around 7-8
[17:12] <ccooke> SwedeMike: (asking out of interest only) did you have resolution problems before?
[17:13] <SwedeMike> ccooke: well, somehow I managed to get 8.10 have the correct resolution after login (it's wrong at the login screen), I never managed to fix it when trying 64bit 8.10
[17:14] <SwedeMike> but right now 8.10 32bit is ok
[17:14] <ccooke> okay
[17:14] <ccooke> I'm looking forward to 64-bit being fully viable for me in 9.04
[17:14] <ccooke> (64-bit flash *and* a 64-bit Java web plugin. I need both for work)
[17:15] <SwedeMike> yeah, that'll be nice
[17:15] <SwedeMike> I think I'm going to backup my current 8.10 hd and then dist-upgrade to 9.04 and see if that works as well
[17:16] <SwedeMike> (I installed 9.04a on another HD I have around)
[17:17] <SwedeMike> I tried the alternate installer and used encrypted lvm, but I couldnt set manual partition sized with guided partitioning, which I think one should be able to
[17:18] <ccooke> I'll be going my first wipe-and-reinstall in ages for this - I want to make a go for 64-bit
[17:18] <SwedeMike> I'm running 64bit 8.10 on another computer, but without well working flash
[17:18] <ccooke> although it's easier in this setup than most - I have /home as a partition, plus two equal root partitions (one for work, one to test)
[17:18] <SwedeMike> it's mostly a server
[20:14] <XiXaQ> will Empathy replace Pidgin in Jaunty?
[20:14] <ikonia> don't think so
[20:15] <s0u][ight> will cheese be fixed?
[20:15] <ikonia> there i a pidgin package for jaunty so I assume no
[20:15] <ikonia> s0u][ight: thats the aim
[20:15] <s0u][ight> in hardy it worked just file :(
[20:15] <XiXaQ> ikonia, oh, but Pidgin would obviously be available anyway. I was talking about the default.
[20:16] <XiXaQ> there were discussions about replacing it for intrepid, but it needed to mature a bit first.
[20:16] <ikonia> I dton' think so
[20:22] <XiXaQ> I really like the promises that empathy holds and I'm sure it will replace Pidgin soon.. I think it would be nice it that happened now, so we could have a couple of cycles to "get used to it" well in time for 10.04.
[20:35] <emet_> does jaunty have firefox 3.1 as default?
[20:37] <emet_> !info firefox-3.1
[20:37] <andersk> !info firefox
[20:38] <andersk> So I think 3.0 is still the default.
[20:40] <XiXaQ> it's reasonable to assume 3.1 will be default by release though.
[21:18] <CarlFK> line 7: Failed to connect to database (incorrect admin password)
[21:18] <CarlFK> I think that is because line 36: Unpacking mysql-server-5.0 (from .../mysql-server-5.0_5.0.67-0ubuntu6_i386.deb) ...
[21:18] <CarlFK> http://dpaste.com/104372/