[00:05] <Flannel> Howdy iShock, how can we help you?
[00:06] <iShock> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/97242/
[00:06] <iShock> After he PMs me without asking.
[00:06] <Flannel> Alright, thanks for the heads up.  In the future, just come here instead of pasting into the channel.
[00:07] <iShock> Eh, new theme, things moving on me :<
[00:07] <Flannel> No problem
[00:07] <iShock> Rofl .. 19:07 -!- mindrape [n=mindrape@ip70-162-221-31.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Flannel = nigger"]
[00:08] <Tm_T> :-P
[00:08] <Tm_T> Flannel: so, do you feel lick nigger? (I think some people doesn't feel it as an insult, nor should)
[00:08] <Flannel> iShock: Is there anything else we can help you with today?
[00:08] <Flannel> Tm_T: He's already banned.  I had a discussion with him earlier about some other stuff, etc.
[00:09] <Tm_T> interesting
[00:09] <iShock> Flannel: You could stop Gnea from being an ass and help me make my cheap webcam work. :(
[00:10] <Tm_T> hi Martinp23 
[00:10] <Tm_T> iShock: see topic (;
[00:10] <iShock> :(
[00:11] <Tm_T> iShock: oh, and happy thursday (:)
[00:11] <iShock> Happy thursday? :P
[00:11] <Tm_T> well, it's thursday here atleast
[00:12] <iShock> UK nub?
[00:12] <Tm_T> nub?
[00:12] <iShock> :<
[00:12] <Tm_T> UK no
[00:12] <Tm_T> anyway ->
[00:13] <iShock> ->?
[00:13] <iShock> Martin is an op right?
[00:13] <Flannel> iShock: Please don't idle here, thanks.
[00:13]  * Mez is an op
[00:14] <iShock> Flannel: I'm on my way out :<
[00:24] <ardchoille> I think I see a possible problem
[00:24] <ardchoille> either that or I'm crazy which has never been proven
[00:24] <Tm_T> yes?
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Evening ardchoille 
[00:25] <Jack_Sparrow> and Tm_T 
[00:25] <ardchoille> Can non-opped users manipulate the J flag in #ubuntu?
[00:25] <Tm_T> IIRC no
[00:25] <ardchoille> [16:22:20]  mode/#ubuntu (-J) by FloodBot1
[00:25] <ardchoille> [16:22:23]  mode/#ubuntu (+o FloodBot1) by ChanSer
[00:25] <ardchoille> that looks like FloodBot1 did -J and *then* got opped
[00:26] <Tm_T> ardchoille: ah, that's prolly your client tricking you
[00:26] <ardchoille> ah, ok
[00:26] <ardchoille> I didn't realize it since 3 seconds difference in timestamps
[00:26] <PriceChild> I see that too.
[00:26] <Tm_T> there can easily be even several minutes if you're lucky
[00:27] <ardchoille> Just wanted to mention it in case it was a problem
[00:27] <PriceChild> It was already opped the latest time it happenned.
[00:27] <PriceChild> It was already opped both times.
[00:27] <ardchoille> And then CS opped it again?
[00:27] <PriceChild> The first +o is some time earlier.
[00:27] <ardchoille> Weird
[00:27] <PriceChild> 1230769226 0101T002026 -!- mode/#ubuntu [+o FloodBot1] by ChanServ
[00:28] <TiredWolf> have you nothing better to do on new year's day than quibble about my bots' bugs?
[00:28] <ardchoille> PriceChild: Are you sure you aren't missing a de-op?
[00:28] <ardchoille> I can't imagine cs opping it twice
[00:28] <ardchoille> But, I could be wrong
[00:28] <PriceChild> ardchoille: I don't see a -o. Do you?
[00:29] <ardchoille> PriceChild: I didn't look, mainly because I didn't think cs would do that. 
[00:29] <ardchoille> Ok, sorry about quibbling, just wanted to report what I thought might be a problem. Thanks for listening.
[00:33] <TiredWolf> *quibble quibble*
[00:45] <Mez> happy new year fellow opers
[00:45] <jussi01> hehe
[00:45] <jussi01> happy new year to you also Mez
[00:46]  * Gary hugz Mez 
[00:47] <jussi01> heya Gary!
[00:47] <jussi01> happy new year
[00:47] <Gary> to you too, have a good one!
[00:48] <nickspoon> Happy new year guys :)
[00:48] <Gary> *snogs*
[00:48] <jussi01> ok, thats it, happy new year to everyone! 
[00:49] <jussi01> now I really should go to bed...
[00:49] <TiredWolf> SPOON!
[00:49] <TiredWolf> damn nickspoon, you look like someone who'll have a terrible year
[00:49] <TiredWolf> i'm sorry
[00:50]  * nickspoon snuggles TiredWolf
[00:50] <nickspoon> Have a wonderful year :)
[00:50]  * TiredWolf snuggles nickspoon
[00:51] <TiredWolf> nickspoon: you weren't there for new year's first kick, i had to kick topyli instead :(
[00:51] <nickspoon> :(
[00:52] <nickspoon> Can I be second?
[00:52] <TiredWolf> nickspoon: second is no fun
[00:52] <nickspoon> Pwease?
[00:52] <TiredWolf> nickspoon: you can be the one who gets kicked throughout the year
[00:52] <nickspoon> I'm always that one.
[00:52] <TiredWolf> nickspoon: well, new year carries some of old year's habits, that's undeniable.
[00:52] <Gary> oh, I missed the kickings :'(
[00:53] <TiredWolf> i think i'm still opped if no one deopped me so i guess even though mirc makes it annoying i can kick you after all
[00:56] <TiredWolf> nickspoon something that's new in the new year though is that i'm going to go to bed before you tonight
[00:56] <Gary> rawr
[00:56] <jussi01> hrm, to be evil or not to be evil, that is the question
[00:56] <nickspoon> TiredWolf: How odd.
[00:56] <TiredWolf> Gary, i said stop rawring
[00:56] <nickspoon> jussi01: Err on the side of evil.
[00:56] <jussi01> lol
[00:56] <TiredWolf> jussi01: ya evil
[00:56] <nickspoon> TiredWolf: Rawr!
[00:57] <Gary> TiredWolf: *RAWR*
[00:57] <jussi01> meh, Im tired, no TiredWolf kicking today
[00:57] <TiredWolf> jussi01: i'm tired too, i probably wouldn't find my way back
[00:57] <jussi01> oh well that makes it fun then :P
[00:57] <TiredWolf> Gary: ROOOOOOAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH
[00:58] <Gary> I so read above as "nickspoon, .... I'm going to bed you before tonight"
[00:58] <nickspoon> Oh I do hope so.
[00:58] <jussi01> now then... bed time
[00:59] <TiredWolf> Gary, and you were immediately scared that you'd be too late in the race?
[00:59] <Gary> TiredWolf: I wanted pics :p
[01:00] <TiredWolf> Gary: don't start calling the police just yet, the pics will have to wait
[01:06] <TiredWolf> Gary: that means that you've upgraded from, uhm, snail to tortoise!
[01:18] <TiredWolf> good night
[01:18] <TiredWolf> happy 1999 namefork
[01:44] <jpds> What a great start to the year.
[01:44] <Flannel> Weeeeee
[01:45] <Flannel> Although for me, its still 2008.  So I can handle it and not have my new year ruined yet ;)
[01:45] <Pici> ditto
[01:46] <jpds> Flannel: Something tells me it won't last ;-)
[01:47] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: It's in the wiki, it's supported ;)
[01:47] <Flannel> Mind you, we wont be able to offer detailed support, since its unlikely anyone's done it, but...
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Flannel, Helping people remaster their own version of ubuntu isnt something we should deal with in the channel
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> remasterer works well..
[01:48] <Pici> Do the forums handle it?
[01:49] <Flannel> We've done it forever.  Although as I said, the level of experience is low, so they are unlikely to get a high level of support.
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> there are plenty of sources for people wishing to make their own distro
[01:49] <Flannel> Its generally not a case of making their own distro, just tweaking something on the liveCD or whatnot.
[01:50] <Pici> They're not going to find much help with it even if they do ask
[01:50] <bazhang> uck is very simple to use
[01:50] <bazhang> not much support needed with that one
[01:50] <Flannel> Right, but we shouldn't scold them.  And we do have fairly thorough wiki pages about it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[01:51] <bazhang> no real hand-holding needed, just point and click
[05:10]  * nickrud looks at the article in his browser window, looks at Jack_Sparrow, and starts looking for the camera
[05:10] <Jack_Sparrow> What article
[05:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Nickrud
[05:10] <nickrud> the zune
[05:10] <nickrud> bug
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> I thought it was funny
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> all the 30 gig's dying
[05:11] <nickrud> oh it is, it is
[05:14] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, that dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg resets the default. real handy for people that played around too hard
[05:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Agreed, but it would not do what the helper was hoping it would
[05:20] <nickrud> I sometimes miss those questions, but not much. For some reason it works fine with my ati and nvidia cards, I always wonder about other problems
[05:20] <nickrud> *others
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> yea
[05:21] <nickrud> do you use kde?
[05:22] <Jack_Sparrow> I used kde for years then went to gnome full time about 4 years ago
[05:23] <nickrud> I'm giving it it's usual biannual chance. Pretty anyway.
[05:23] <Jack_Sparrow> I still have a kubuntu 6 cd here somewhere
[06:07] <Flannel> Anyone with ops in -ot awake?
[06:07] <Flannel> nevermind, he censured himself
[06:08] <Flannel> Ok, yeah.
[06:08] <Flannel> He could definately use a forward here, if anyone has a moment.
[06:09] <nickrud> we need a trigger just for that channel. 
[06:09] <nickrud> when was the last time anyone was added to that channel as an op?
[06:09] <Flannel> No idea.
[06:11] <Flannel> I think we added two not too long ago, but I also think all of the ops for that channel are in similar timezones.
[06:11] <Flannel> And I haven't seen some of the regulars in a while, at that.
[06:11] <Flannel> likely due to holidays, I imagine, but I don't know for sure.
[06:12] <nickrud> most of the people on the list aren't around a lot anyway
[06:17] <elkbuntu> Flannel, australian daytime is notoriously under'staffed'
[06:17] <PriceChild> Suggest people! :D
[06:18]  * elkbuntu nudges Flannel
[06:18] <Flannel> What?
[06:18] <nickrud> Flannel hangs out in there. I watch sometimes, I have this thing about slowing down for car wrecks. Reprehensible, but I can't help myself
[06:18] <elkbuntu> yourself, dude. yourself.
[06:18] <elkbuntu> nickrud, yeah, -ot is pure morbid curiosity
[06:18] <Flannel> elkbuntu: I'm not suggesting myself, that's presumptuous.
[06:18] <nickrud> Flannel, don't be shy. Would you accept?
[06:18] <elkbuntu> PriceChild, i think we should just stick it to him anyway :)
[06:18] <Flannel> I would
[06:19]  * PriceChild notices flannel got the guy to leave the channel without +o
[06:19] <nickrud> I think he just got tired of being ignored
[06:19] <PriceChild> for 4 whole years infact :O
[06:19] <PriceChild> Now that's good work.
[06:21] <elkbuntu> Flannel, now's the time you return the favour to nickrud ;)
[06:21] <Flannel> Haha.  That's true, nickrud does have a thing for slowing down for the multi-car pileup that is -offtopic.
[06:22] <nickrud> -offtopic is in my autojoin list, but I nearly never actually talk there. I usually look when someone points out some good goop lying around though
[06:22] <Flannel> nickrud: I'll buy you a years supply of sawdust.
[06:23] <nickrud> as long as no one says I have to really watch, just be on call :)
[06:24] <elkbuntu> just say something occasionally that's non-op related, or wobblywu will yell at you for only ever telling people off
[06:24] <Flannel> Just wobble him occassionally
[06:24] <elkbuntu> well, no, he'll ignore it anyway
[06:24] <nickrud> hm. He would be in the right actually
[06:24] <elkbuntu> nickrud, yeah, but he wasnt in the right when he said it to me
[06:24] <nickrud> from my point of view
[06:25] <nickrud> hahahahha
[06:25] <nickrud> I have thick skin.
[06:25] <elkbuntu> the skin thickness is not the issue.
[06:26] <elkbuntu> the having your reputation urinated on is.
[06:28] <nickrud> I'm also good at avoiding pissing contests. Took me a while, but I finally learned. You know, the old 'rope-a-dope'. Let them tire themselves out and look like fools.
[06:29] <elkbuntu> i'm not talking pissing contests. i'm talking regulars telling newbies to ignore the ops
[06:29] <nickrud> But I do agree in principle; an op should spend at least some time interacting with the people he's dealing with. Oh, that. Hammertime
[06:30] <elkbuntu> nickrud, the -ot regulars want to be a law unto themselves. this usually ends up in talk suitible for ##politics
[06:30] <nickrud> I don't care how long someone's been around, the coc still applies to them
[06:30] <Flannel> Some of that has to do with ineffective opping practices in recent months
[06:30] <elkbuntu> exactly. the current regulars think they should be exempt
[06:30] <elkbuntu> well, not all, but the loud ones do
[06:31] <Flannel> And other issues stem from the fact that there's currently a crop of -offtopicers who haven't ever set foot in #ubuntu
[06:31] <Flannel> er, the other half of that issue.
[06:31] <elkbuntu> yeah
[06:31]  * Flannel speeks gudly.
[06:32] <Flannel> However, I know there's also a core of regulars who want to make -ot a nice place again
[06:32] <nickrud> Flannel, that was a perfectly constructed sentence, even if it was accidental :)
[06:32] <Flannel> nickrud: The first few words were wrong, but yeah.
[06:32] <elkbuntu> Flannel, yeah, but they're the nice kids who are willing to allow the idiots to have their say... and never get allowed to have *theirs*
[06:34] <Flannel> Over... hmmm, summer I guess, there was some actual visibility, but its an uphill fight.  Certainly doable though.
[06:34] <Flannel> Just going to have to be a concerted effort.  But I certainly think it's worth it.
[06:35] <Flannel> A lot of the issue is troublemakers bringing out the worst in the others though, a few well timed op-apperances may be enough to turn the tides.  We'll see I guess.
[06:35] <nickrud> since I'm not familiar with the players (I know a few names because they were in #ubuntu for a bit) I'm gonna have to spend some 'quality' time there :(
[06:36] <nickrud> and learn what's 'acceptable': Drinking stories? Dating? 
[06:36] <PriceChild> !o4o
[06:36] <PriceChild> !guidelines
[06:36] <elkbuntu> meanwhile, does someone sense that pppoe_dude only came back to moan about not getting laid?
[06:37] <Flannel> nickrud: Every once in a while a few of the otherwise normal people get all sob-story on everyone else.
[06:39] <nickrud> no windows bashing in -offtopic? That seems unfair :)
[06:39] <Flannel> elkbuntu: baz hang would be another good one.  He's active in -ot and has a good head on his shoulders.  Even if he and I don't always agree on policy/strategy
[06:39] <elkbuntu> Flannel, i thought he was already
[06:39] <nickrud> he's not afraid of anyone
[06:39] <Flannel> elkbuntu: Nah, he and I have been fighting on the sidelines for some time now.
[06:40] <elkbuntu> he should be awake.
[06:40] <elkbuntu> last message 150mins ago
[06:40] <Flannel> It's NYE, he's likely off somewhere
[06:41] <nickrud> leave a memo, see how long it takes him to find it 
[06:41] <Flannel> heh
[06:41]  * nickrud has a twisted sense of humor
[06:44] <elkbuntu> i thought he was in my side of the world...
[06:44] <nickrud> he is
[06:44] <Flannel> Then he's asleep after NYE?
[06:45] <elkbuntu> Flannel, i slept until midday
[06:45] <Flannel> elkbuntu: Mmmm, well... he's.... nocturnal?
[06:45] <nickrud> so he has another life. Unlike some I can name who are us west coasters, new years eve, and here :)
[06:46] <Flannel> Asia/Taipei
[06:47] <Flannel> Hmmm?  It's only 1045!  Besides... my propsective significant other is on the other side of the state right now; so I'm just going to geek out tonight.
[06:47] <elkbuntu> hehe
[06:48] <nickrud> my excuse is I work tomorrow. I'm celebrating tomorrow night.
[12:20] <Gary> oops, bit delayed there, llaaaaaag
[12:21] <Gary> I haves slow interwebs :'(
[12:22] <elkbuntu> thats ok.
[12:43] <elkbuntu> Gary, he hit up #wikipedia too
[13:44] <PriceChild> clitoral was just as dodgy in PM
[13:54]  * elkbuntu reads that several times, and still blinks.
[13:59] <PriceChild> #ubuntu person
[14:02] <elkbuntu> i figured, but at 1am, that line reads weird.
[15:10]  * jussi01 waves
[17:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !idle
[17:17]  * jussi01 wonders what the !idle was for? 
[17:19] <Jack_Sparrow> jussi01, A few people I had not seen joined and said othing
[17:20] <jussi01> Jack_Sparrow: ahh
[17:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Happy NEw Year btw
[17:21] <Ursinha> happy new year Jack_Sparrow 
[17:21] <Ursinha> and jussi01 
[17:21] <Ursinha> :)
[17:21] <jussi01> heya Ursinha. you were after me the other day/week?
[17:21] <Ursinha> jussi01, hmm... I don't remember anymore...
[17:21] <jpds>  /year*
[17:22] <jussi01> lol
[17:22] <Ursinha> sorry :)
[17:22] <jussi01> no probs, just wondering
[17:22] <Ursinha> :)
[17:22] <jpds> Ursinha: Were you at UDS?
[17:22] <Ursinha> jpds, nope
[17:22] <Ursinha> not this year
[17:23] <Ursinha> erm, last year
[17:23] <jpds> Ah, I thought I didn't see you/someone with your name tag.
[17:25] <helpmaster> ok
[17:26] <jussi01> hi helpmaster, can we help you?
[17:26] <bazhang> helpmaster, you are banned in #ubuntu ; now you are ban evading
[17:26] <helpmaster> wait
[17:26] <helpmaster> please
[17:26] <helpmaster> im sorry
[17:26] <bazhang> helpmaster, you were banned under the name mr_fat, is that not correct?
[17:27] <helpmaster> yes, but please dont ban me again
[17:27] <bazhang> helpmaster, ban evasion is not okay.
[17:27] <helpmaster> i need help with ubuntu
[17:27] <bazhang> you are banned under this nickname as well helpmaster 
[17:27] <helpmaster> but can i change my nickname
[17:27] <helpmaster> plz
[17:29] <helpmaster> bazhang?
[17:29] <helpmaster> i got on beause my ban was up
[17:29] <bazhang> helpmaster, resetting your nickname and IP address then rejoining when you are banned is ban evasion
[17:29] <helpmaster> what
[17:29] <helpmaster> i didnt reset my ip
[17:30] <helpmaster> i just got on somehow
[17:30] <helpmaster> i havent done anything bad here now, and i promisee i wont
[17:31] <bazhang> helpmaster, someone lifted your ban?
[17:31] <helpmaster> i dont know
 i got on beause my ban was up
[17:31] <helpmaster> what do u mean
[17:32] <helpmaster> wait
[17:32] <helpmaster> i will tell u full story
[17:33] <helpmaster> i got banned the other day (by u) and then i installed chat zilla on windows. now i went onto the #ubuntu and it worked
[17:33] <ikonia> why where you trying to get into #ubuntu when you know you where banned ?
[17:34] <helpmaster> now only today on windows vista
[17:34] <helpmaster> no i meant
[17:34] <helpmaster> i just need help wid ubuntu but now i cant get it
[17:35] <ikonia> why where you trying to get into #ubuntu when you know you where banned ?
[17:35] <helpmaster> u already asked me that. i said no
[17:35] <ikonia> no you where
[17:35] <ikonia> you got banned
[17:35] <helpmaster> look im going
[17:35] <ikonia> you installed xchat on windows
[17:35] <helpmaster> no
[17:35] <ikonia> you rejoined ubuntu
[17:35] <helpmaster> wait
[17:35] <helpmaster> yea but i wont get banned again i promise
[17:36] <helpmaster> just wait
[17:36] <helpmaster> ill
[17:36] <helpmaster> tell u full storu
[17:36] <ikonia> why where you trying to get back into the #ubuntu channel you know you where banned
[17:36] <ikonia> helpmaster: I don't need the full story, I've read the logs
[17:37] <bazhang> happy new year ikonia :)
[17:37] <ikonia> and to you 
[17:37] <ikonia> only just got up
[17:37] <ikonia> well, to everyone actually
[17:38] <bazhang> yes, by all means; dont mean to be exclusionary: Happy New Year to one and all!
[17:49] <jpds> ikonia: Heh, I got up at 2.
[17:49] <jussi01> ikonia: pm ;)
[17:50]  * ikonia is rough
[19:36] <nickrud> @btlogin
[19:52] <pop79> hwllo
[19:52] <pop79> hello
[19:53] <ikonia> hi
[19:53] <pop79> hello there, im trying to resolve a ban?
[19:53] <ikonia> yes you where in earlier
[19:53] <ikonia> you left
[19:53] <pop79> oh sorry
[19:53] <ikonia> this is the 3rd nick name your using
[19:53] <pop79> but can you pleeeeease resolve my ban
[19:54] <ikonia> sure 
[19:54] <pop79> thank you so much!
[19:54] <ikonia> as I asked you before why do you keep trying to join #ubuntu when you know you where banned
[19:54] <ikonia> (the ban dodging incident)
[19:54] <pop79> what
[19:54] <ikonia> I'm trying to understand your behaviour
[19:54] <pop79> oh wait
[19:55] <pop79> i just keep thinking that ill get in, but i dont
[19:55] <ikonia> your not listening
[19:55] <ikonia> you knew you where banned by bazhang, yes/no ?
[19:56] <pop79> ok. can u tell me when my ban is up?
[19:56] <pop79> yes
[19:56] <ikonia> you knew you where banned by bazhang, yes/no ?
[19:56] <ikonia> right
[19:56] <pop79> yes
[19:56] <ikonia> so why did you try to join using different nicks ?
[19:56] <ikonia> eg: you changed your nick and ip address to get into #ubuntu
[19:56] <pop79> i dont know, and anyway i like to change my nick
[19:56] <pop79> i did not change my ip
[19:56] <ikonia> you don't know why you tried to get back in 
[19:56] <ikonia> ?
[19:57] <pop79> i dont even know ho
[19:57] <pop79> yea
[19:57] <ikonia> thats not really an answer
[19:57] <pop79> i tried to get in to see if my ban was up
[19:57] <ikonia> you knew you where banned - why did you keep trying to get back in 
[19:57] <pop79> i tried to get in to see if my ban was up i just told u
[19:58] <ikonia> well, I'm not convinced by that as you've been banned under 2 nicknames now, so I'm not comfortable removing bazhangs ban, so I suggest you speak to him
[19:58] <pop79> he will just ban m,e again. plz
[19:58] <ikonia> why will he ban you ?
[19:58] <pop79> plz i need help with ubuntu
[19:58] <ikonia> your already banned
[19:58] <pop79> i know
[19:59] <ikonia> so I suggest you speak to bazhang as I am not convinced by your explinations, so its up to bazhang
[19:59] <pop79> well, can u atlest tell me when the ban is up?
[19:59] <ikonia> I didn't set it, so I don't know
[19:59] <ikonia> as I said speak to bazhang
[20:00] <pop79> i dont want to
[20:00] <pop79> he gets mad at me
[20:00] <ikonia> I've not seen him get mad at you, so I suggest you speak to him in a calm manner
[20:00] <ikonia> and it's a good idea to listen to what's been said/asked of you
[20:00] <pop79> how?
[20:00] <ikonia> speak to him when he's active in the channel
[20:01] <ikonia> bazhang: are you there now ?
[20:01] <ikonia> (I don't think he's at his desk now)
[20:01] <pop79> ok
[20:01] <pop79> oh well... thanks anyhow :(
[20:01] <ikonia> I suggest popping back each time you login to irc to see if he's around
[20:20] <stdin> someone should check if Borian is ban evading, FloodBot1 seems to thinks so
[20:21] <ikonia> what channel
[20:21] <ikonia> ahh ubuntu
[20:21] <stdin> it's the only one the bots monitor
[20:23] <ikonia> looks like he is
[20:23] <ikonia> I'll remove
[20:23] <bazhang> ikonia, sorry was away
[20:24] <ikonia> not at all
[20:24] <ikonia> no problem
[20:24] <bazhang> pop79 trying to ban evade still I see
[20:25] <ikonia> yup
[20:25] <ikonia> although he claims he's not
[20:25] <bazhang> hard to tell from the way he is talking in -ot
[20:26] <bazhang> plus the fact that he pm'ed me asking not to ban him again after he had ban evaded
[20:26] <bazhang> not exactly stealth behaviour
[20:29] <ikonia> stdin: nice spot by the way
[20:30]  * jussi01 cries and curls up into the foetal position....
[20:30] <jussi01> [22:30:10] <stanley_> does alien come pre-installed on kubuntu 8.10??
[20:30] <jussi01> [22:30:10] <stanley_> does alien come pre-installed on kubuntu 8.10??
[20:30] <ikonia> ughh
[20:31] <nickrud> bazhang, I think he's basically clueless about what ban evading is.
[20:31] <bazhang> nickrud, it seems to be the case (this once)
[20:31] <nickrud> not the first time I've seen it (cluelessness) I exhibit it in many spheres ;)
[20:32] <jussi01> rofl nickrud
[20:32] <ikonia> nickrud: it could also be playing dumb
[20:32] <bazhang> haha
[20:32] <ikonia> as he seemed to guess that changing his nick got him in quick enough
[20:32] <nickrud> ikonia, true also
[20:32] <nickrud> ikonia, and may think that means his ban is lifted, by definition.
[20:32] <ikonia> possibly
[20:32] <jussi01> nickrud: that sounds feasable
[20:33] <ikonia> but then when he's told its not lifted he keeps trying and trys other nicks
[20:34] <bazhang> I think sken may have left us a bit skeptical
[20:34] <nickrud> ikonia, true that also
[20:34] <jussi01> I think we need to sort out 2 thingws with him, first, the reason he was banned originally, then explain to him why ban evading is wrong (cause he doesnt seem to get it)
[20:34] <bazhang> it did me at least
[20:34] <stdin> good lord, xchat is using 39.7% of my memory, something is horribly wrong there
[20:34] <jussi01> so why was he banne originally?
[20:34] <nickrud> bot abuse, according to him
[20:35] <bazhang> he was seemingly trolling in -ot, then came into #ubuntu and asked how to ban people
[20:35] <jussi01> oh, fun
[20:35] <bazhang> yep
[20:35] <nickrud> was asking how to become an operator in offtopic earlier as well
[20:36] <jussi01> well next time he pops in, grab him, and do some explaining, cause he seriously doenst get it IMHO
[20:36] <bazhang> okay
[23:34] <ikonia> heads up chuy has been signing in / out, not seen him for a while but he's a big problem
[23:47] <jussi01> grumble grumble grumble
[23:47] <cuddlefish> hello. Any op got a problem with a wikibot on #ubuntu?
[23:47] <jussi01> cuddlefish: hi, how can we help today?
[23:47] <jussi01> cuddlefish: hmmm, does it say anything?
[23:48] <cuddlefish> No, i mean "could I put one on"
[23:48] <jussi01> cuddlefish: What does it do?
[23:48] <cuddlefish> answers ONLY to it's nick
[23:48] <cuddlefish> lemme show you
[23:49] <cuddlefish> there we got
[23:49] <cuddlefish> silent until:
[23:49] <cuddlefish> anna: test is foo
[23:49] <cuddlefish> anna: test
[23:50] <cuddlefish> nothing else. python+SQLite.
[23:50] <jussi01> so exactly what did that do?
[23:50] <cuddlefish> so, i set a keyword, called test.
[23:51] <cuddlefish> then when asked for test, it posted the contents.
[23:51] <cuddlefish> the first two lines didn't do anything.
[23:51] <cuddlefish> and the nick can be changed to anything.
[23:52] <cuddlefish> open source, of course.
[23:52] <nickrud> cuddlefish, what advantage over ubottu would that give us?
[23:52] <jussi01> I still dont understand its usefulness. how does it enhance #ubuntu ?
[23:52] <cuddlefish> Because of user-added factoids.
[23:52] <Gary> sounds just like ubottu 
[23:53] <nickrud> before ubottu had to be locked down due to abuse
[23:53] <jussi01> cuddlefish: then the answer is no. we have ubottu with a moderated factoid system, we dont want just anyone adding factoids
[23:53] <cuddlefish> OK. Thanks for your time. Bye!
[23:53] <Gary> nice offer of him though
[23:54] <jussi01> well nice he came to ask. 
[23:54] <jussi01> :)
[23:54] <nickrud> someone ought to point that out to him and say thanks
[23:54] <jussi01> Ill do it
[23:54] <Gary> we'd get !wiggle is wobble and the like
[23:54] <Gary> good call jussi01 
[23:56] <jussi01> sorted