[00:05] Howdy iShock, how can we help you? [00:05] mindrape called the ops in #ubuntu (iShock) [00:06] Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/97242/ [00:06] After he PMs me without asking. [00:06] Alright, thanks for the heads up. In the future, just come here instead of pasting into the channel. [00:07] Eh, new theme, things moving on me :< [00:07] No problem [00:07] Rofl .. 19:07 -!- mindrape [n=mindrape@ip70-162-221-31.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Flannel = nigger"] [00:08] :-P [00:08] Flannel: so, do you feel lick nigger? (I think some people doesn't feel it as an insult, nor should) [00:08] iShock: Is there anything else we can help you with today? [00:08] Tm_T: He's already banned. I had a discussion with him earlier about some other stuff, etc. [00:09] interesting [00:09] Flannel: You could stop Gnea from being an ass and help me make my cheap webcam work. :( [00:10] hi Martinp23 [00:10] iShock: see topic (; [00:10] :( [00:11] iShock: oh, and happy thursday (:) [00:11] Happy thursday? :P [00:11] well, it's thursday here atleast [00:12] UK nub? [00:12] nub? [00:12] :< [00:12] UK no [00:12] anyway -> [00:13] ->? [00:13] Martin is an op right? [00:13] iShock: Please don't idle here, thanks. [00:13] * Mez is an op [00:14] Flannel: I'm on my way out :< [00:24] I think I see a possible problem [00:24] either that or I'm crazy which has never been proven [00:24] yes? [00:24] Evening ardchoille [00:25] and Tm_T [00:25] Can non-opped users manipulate the J flag in #ubuntu? [00:25] IIRC no [00:25] [16:22:20] mode/#ubuntu (-J) by FloodBot1 [00:25] [16:22:23] mode/#ubuntu (+o FloodBot1) by ChanSer [00:25] that looks like FloodBot1 did -J and *then* got opped [00:26] ardchoille: ah, that's prolly your client tricking you [00:26] ah, ok [00:26] I didn't realize it since 3 seconds difference in timestamps [00:26] I see that too. [00:26] there can easily be even several minutes if you're lucky [00:27] Just wanted to mention it in case it was a problem [00:27] It was already opped the latest time it happenned. [00:27] It was already opped both times. [00:27] And then CS opped it again? [00:27] The first +o is some time earlier. [00:27] Weird [00:27] 1230769226 0101T002026 -!- mode/#ubuntu [+o FloodBot1] by ChanServ [00:28] have you nothing better to do on new year's day than quibble about my bots' bugs? [00:28] PriceChild: Are you sure you aren't missing a de-op? [00:28] I can't imagine cs opping it twice [00:28] But, I could be wrong [00:28] ardchoille: I don't see a -o. Do you? [00:29] PriceChild: I didn't look, mainly because I didn't think cs would do that. [00:29] Ok, sorry about quibbling, just wanted to report what I thought might be a problem. Thanks for listening. [00:33] *quibble quibble* [00:45] happy new year fellow opers [00:45] hehe [00:45] happy new year to you also Mez [00:46] * Gary hugz Mez [00:47] heya Gary! [00:47] happy new year [00:47] to you too, have a good one! [00:48] Happy new year guys :) [00:48] *snogs* [00:48] ok, thats it, happy new year to everyone! [00:49] now I really should go to bed... [00:49] SPOON! [00:49] damn nickspoon, you look like someone who'll have a terrible year [00:49] i'm sorry [00:50] * nickspoon snuggles TiredWolf [00:50] Have a wonderful year :) [00:50] * TiredWolf snuggles nickspoon [00:51] nickspoon: you weren't there for new year's first kick, i had to kick topyli instead :( [00:51] :( [00:52] Can I be second? [00:52] nickspoon: second is no fun [00:52] Pwease? [00:52] nickspoon: you can be the one who gets kicked throughout the year [00:52] I'm always that one. [00:52] nickspoon: well, new year carries some of old year's habits, that's undeniable. [00:52] oh, I missed the kickings :'( [00:53] i think i'm still opped if no one deopped me so i guess even though mirc makes it annoying i can kick you after all [00:56] nickspoon something that's new in the new year though is that i'm going to go to bed before you tonight [00:56] rawr [00:56] hrm, to be evil or not to be evil, that is the question [00:56] TiredWolf: How odd. [00:56] Gary, i said stop rawring [00:56] jussi01: Err on the side of evil. [00:56] lol [00:56] jussi01: ya evil [00:56] TiredWolf: Rawr! [00:57] TiredWolf: *RAWR* [00:57] meh, Im tired, no TiredWolf kicking today [00:57] jussi01: i'm tired too, i probably wouldn't find my way back [00:57] oh well that makes it fun then :P [00:57] Gary: ROOOOOOAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH [00:58] I so read above as "nickspoon, .... I'm going to bed you before tonight" [00:58] Oh I do hope so. [00:58] now then... bed time [00:59] Gary, and you were immediately scared that you'd be too late in the race? [00:59] TiredWolf: I wanted pics :p [01:00] Gary: don't start calling the police just yet, the pics will have to wait [01:06] Gary: that means that you've upgraded from, uhm, snail to tortoise! [01:18] good night [01:18] happy 1999 namefork [01:38] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [01:38] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [01:44] What a great start to the year. [01:44] Weeeeee [01:45] Although for me, its still 2008. So I can handle it and not have my new year ruined yet ;) [01:45] ditto [01:46] Flannel: Something tells me it won't last ;-) [01:47] Jack_Sparrow: It's in the wiki, it's supported ;) [01:47] Mind you, we wont be able to offer detailed support, since its unlikely anyone's done it, but... [01:48] Flannel, Helping people remaster their own version of ubuntu isnt something we should deal with in the channel [01:48] remasterer works well.. [01:48] Do the forums handle it? [01:49] We've done it forever. Although as I said, the level of experience is low, so they are unlikely to get a high level of support. [01:49] there are plenty of sources for people wishing to make their own distro [01:49] Its generally not a case of making their own distro, just tweaking something on the liveCD or whatnot. [01:50] They're not going to find much help with it even if they do ask [01:50] uck is very simple to use [01:50] not much support needed with that one [01:50] Right, but we shouldn't scold them. And we do have fairly thorough wiki pages about it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization [01:51] no real hand-holding needed, just point and click [05:10] * nickrud looks at the article in his browser window, looks at Jack_Sparrow, and starts looking for the camera [05:10] What article [05:10] Nickrud [05:10] the zune [05:10] bug [05:11] I thought it was funny [05:11] all the 30 gig's dying [05:11] oh it is, it is [05:14] Jack_Sparrow, that dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg resets the default. real handy for people that played around too hard [05:17] Agreed, but it would not do what the helper was hoping it would [05:20] I sometimes miss those questions, but not much. For some reason it works fine with my ati and nvidia cards, I always wonder about other problems [05:20] *others [05:21] yea [05:21] do you use kde? [05:22] I used kde for years then went to gnome full time about 4 years ago [05:23] I'm giving it it's usual biannual chance. Pretty anyway. [05:23] I still have a kubuntu 6 cd here somewhere [06:07] Anyone with ops in -ot awake? [06:07] nevermind, he censured himself [06:08] Ok, yeah. [06:08] He could definately use a forward here, if anyone has a moment. [06:09] we need a trigger just for that channel. [06:09] when was the last time anyone was added to that channel as an op? [06:09] No idea. [06:11] I think we added two not too long ago, but I also think all of the ops for that channel are in similar timezones. [06:11] And I haven't seen some of the regulars in a while, at that. [06:11] likely due to holidays, I imagine, but I don't know for sure. [06:12] most of the people on the list aren't around a lot anyway [06:17] Flannel, australian daytime is notoriously under'staffed' [06:17] Suggest people! :D [06:18] * elkbuntu nudges Flannel [06:18] What? [06:18] Flannel hangs out in there. I watch sometimes, I have this thing about slowing down for car wrecks. Reprehensible, but I can't help myself [06:18] yourself, dude. yourself. [06:18] nickrud, yeah, -ot is pure morbid curiosity [06:18] elkbuntu: I'm not suggesting myself, that's presumptuous. [06:18] Flannel, don't be shy. Would you accept? [06:18] PriceChild, i think we should just stick it to him anyway :) [06:18] I would [06:19] * PriceChild notices flannel got the guy to leave the channel without +o [06:19] I think he just got tired of being ignored [06:19] for 4 whole years infact :O [06:19] Now that's good work. [06:21] Flannel, now's the time you return the favour to nickrud ;) [06:21] Haha. That's true, nickrud does have a thing for slowing down for the multi-car pileup that is -offtopic. [06:22] -offtopic is in my autojoin list, but I nearly never actually talk there. I usually look when someone points out some good goop lying around though [06:22] nickrud: I'll buy you a years supply of sawdust. [06:23] as long as no one says I have to really watch, just be on call :) [06:24] just say something occasionally that's non-op related, or wobblywu will yell at you for only ever telling people off [06:24] Just wobble him occassionally [06:24] well, no, he'll ignore it anyway [06:24] hm. He would be in the right actually [06:24] nickrud, yeah, but he wasnt in the right when he said it to me [06:24] from my point of view [06:25] hahahahha [06:25] I have thick skin. [06:25] the skin thickness is not the issue. [06:26] the having your reputation urinated on is. [06:28] I'm also good at avoiding pissing contests. Took me a while, but I finally learned. You know, the old 'rope-a-dope'. Let them tire themselves out and look like fools. [06:29] i'm not talking pissing contests. i'm talking regulars telling newbies to ignore the ops [06:29] But I do agree in principle; an op should spend at least some time interacting with the people he's dealing with. Oh, that. Hammertime [06:30] nickrud, the -ot regulars want to be a law unto themselves. this usually ends up in talk suitible for ##politics [06:30] I don't care how long someone's been around, the coc still applies to them [06:30] Some of that has to do with ineffective opping practices in recent months [06:30] exactly. the current regulars think they should be exempt [06:30] well, not all, but the loud ones do [06:31] And other issues stem from the fact that there's currently a crop of -offtopicers who haven't ever set foot in #ubuntu [06:31] er, the other half of that issue. [06:31] yeah [06:31] * Flannel speeks gudly. [06:32] However, I know there's also a core of regulars who want to make -ot a nice place again [06:32] Flannel, that was a perfectly constructed sentence, even if it was accidental :) [06:32] nickrud: The first few words were wrong, but yeah. [06:32] Flannel, yeah, but they're the nice kids who are willing to allow the idiots to have their say... and never get allowed to have *theirs* [06:34] Over... hmmm, summer I guess, there was some actual visibility, but its an uphill fight. Certainly doable though. [06:34] Just going to have to be a concerted effort. But I certainly think it's worth it. [06:35] A lot of the issue is troublemakers bringing out the worst in the others though, a few well timed op-apperances may be enough to turn the tides. We'll see I guess. [06:35] since I'm not familiar with the players (I know a few names because they were in #ubuntu for a bit) I'm gonna have to spend some 'quality' time there :( [06:36] and learn what's 'acceptable': Drinking stories? Dating? [06:36] !o4o [06:36] Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-ops. Controversial topics, which often turn into flame wars: war, race, religion, politics, gender, sexuality, drugs, questionably legal activities, suicide are not for here. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) [06:36] !guidelines [06:36] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [06:36] meanwhile, does someone sense that pppoe_dude only came back to moan about not getting laid? [06:37] nickrud: Every once in a while a few of the otherwise normal people get all sob-story on everyone else. [06:39] no windows bashing in -offtopic? That seems unfair :) [06:39] elkbuntu: baz hang would be another good one. He's active in -ot and has a good head on his shoulders. Even if he and I don't always agree on policy/strategy [06:39] Flannel, i thought he was already [06:39] he's not afraid of anyone [06:39] elkbuntu: Nah, he and I have been fighting on the sidelines for some time now. [06:40] he should be awake. [06:40] last message 150mins ago [06:40] It's NYE, he's likely off somewhere [06:41] leave a memo, see how long it takes him to find it [06:41] heh [06:41] * nickrud has a twisted sense of humor [06:44] i thought he was in my side of the world... [06:44] he is [06:44] Then he's asleep after NYE? [06:45] Flannel, i slept until midday [06:45] elkbuntu: Mmmm, well... he's.... nocturnal? [06:45] so he has another life. Unlike some I can name who are us west coasters, new years eve, and here :) [06:46] Asia/Taipei [06:47] Hmmm? It's only 1045! Besides... my propsective significant other is on the other side of the state right now; so I'm just going to geek out tonight. [06:47] hehe [06:48] my excuse is I work tomorrow. I'm celebrating tomorrow night. === tritium_ is now known as tritium [12:16] evowill_ called the ops in #ubuntu (Humm2) [12:20] oops, bit delayed there, llaaaaaag [12:21] I haves slow interwebs :'( [12:22] thats ok. [12:43] Gary, he hit up #wikipedia too [13:44] clitoral was just as dodgy in PM [13:54] * elkbuntu reads that several times, and still blinks. [13:59] #ubuntu person [14:02] i figured, but at 1am, that line reads weird. [15:10] * jussi01 waves [17:03] !idle [17:03] Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [17:17] * jussi01 wonders what the !idle was for? [17:19] jussi01, A few people I had not seen joined and said othing [17:20] Jack_Sparrow: ahh [17:20] Happy NEw Year btw [17:21] happy new year Jack_Sparrow [17:21] and jussi01 [17:21] :) [17:21] heya Ursinha. you were after me the other day/week? [17:21] jussi01, hmm... I don't remember anymore... [17:21] /year* [17:22] lol [17:22] sorry :) [17:22] no probs, just wondering [17:22] :) [17:22] Ursinha: Were you at UDS? [17:22] jpds, nope [17:22] not this year [17:23] erm, last year [17:23] Ah, I thought I didn't see you/someone with your name tag. [17:25] ok [17:26] hi helpmaster, can we help you? [17:26] helpmaster, you are banned in #ubuntu ; now you are ban evading [17:26] wait [17:26] please [17:26] im sorry [17:26] helpmaster, you were banned under the name mr_fat, is that not correct? [17:27] yes, but please dont ban me again [17:27] helpmaster, ban evasion is not okay. [17:27] i need help with ubuntu [17:27] you are banned under this nickname as well helpmaster [17:27] but can i change my nickname [17:27] plz [17:29] bazhang? [17:29] i got on beause my ban was up [17:29] helpmaster, resetting your nickname and IP address then rejoining when you are banned is ban evasion [17:29] what [17:29] i didnt reset my ip [17:30] i just got on somehow [17:30] i havent done anything bad here now, and i promisee i wont [17:31] helpmaster, someone lifted your ban? [17:31] i dont know [17:31] i got on beause my ban was up [17:31] what do u mean [17:32] wait [17:32] i will tell u full story [17:33] i got banned the other day (by u) and then i installed chat zilla on windows. now i went onto the #ubuntu and it worked [17:33] why where you trying to get into #ubuntu when you know you where banned ? [17:34] now only today on windows vista [17:34] no i meant [17:34] i just need help wid ubuntu but now i cant get it [17:35] why where you trying to get into #ubuntu when you know you where banned ? [17:35] u already asked me that. i said no [17:35] no you where [17:35] you got banned [17:35] look im going [17:35] you installed xchat on windows [17:35] no [17:35] you rejoined ubuntu [17:35] wait [17:35] yea but i wont get banned again i promise [17:36] just wait [17:36] ill [17:36] tell u full storu [17:36] why where you trying to get back into the #ubuntu channel you know you where banned [17:36] helpmaster: I don't need the full story, I've read the logs [17:37] happy new year ikonia :) [17:37] and to you [17:37] only just got up [17:37] well, to everyone actually [17:38] yes, by all means; dont mean to be exclusionary: Happy New Year to one and all! [17:49] ikonia: Heh, I got up at 2. [17:49] ikonia: pm ;) [17:50] * ikonia is rough === bluesmoke_ is now known as bluesmoke === popey_ is now known as popey [19:36] @btlogin [19:52] hwllo [19:52] hello [19:53] hi [19:53] hello there, im trying to resolve a ban? [19:53] yes you where in earlier [19:53] you left [19:53] oh sorry [19:53] this is the 3rd nick name your using [19:53] but can you pleeeeease resolve my ban [19:54] sure [19:54] thank you so much! [19:54] as I asked you before why do you keep trying to join #ubuntu when you know you where banned [19:54] (the ban dodging incident) [19:54] what [19:54] I'm trying to understand your behaviour [19:54] oh wait [19:55] i just keep thinking that ill get in, but i dont [19:55] your not listening [19:55] you knew you where banned by bazhang, yes/no ? [19:56] ok. can u tell me when my ban is up? [19:56] yes [19:56] you knew you where banned by bazhang, yes/no ? [19:56] right [19:56] yes [19:56] so why did you try to join using different nicks ? [19:56] eg: you changed your nick and ip address to get into #ubuntu [19:56] i dont know, and anyway i like to change my nick [19:56] i did not change my ip [19:56] you don't know why you tried to get back in [19:56] ? [19:57] i dont even know ho [19:57] yea [19:57] thats not really an answer [19:57] i tried to get in to see if my ban was up [19:57] you knew you where banned - why did you keep trying to get back in [19:57] i tried to get in to see if my ban was up i just told u [19:58] well, I'm not convinced by that as you've been banned under 2 nicknames now, so I'm not comfortable removing bazhangs ban, so I suggest you speak to him [19:58] he will just ban m,e again. plz [19:58] why will he ban you ? [19:58] plz i need help with ubuntu [19:58] your already banned [19:58] i know [19:59] so I suggest you speak to bazhang as I am not convinced by your explinations, so its up to bazhang [19:59] well, can u atlest tell me when the ban is up? [19:59] I didn't set it, so I don't know [19:59] as I said speak to bazhang [20:00] i dont want to [20:00] he gets mad at me [20:00] I've not seen him get mad at you, so I suggest you speak to him in a calm manner [20:00] and it's a good idea to listen to what's been said/asked of you [20:00] how? [20:00] speak to him when he's active in the channel [20:01] bazhang: are you there now ? [20:01] (I don't think he's at his desk now) [20:01] ok [20:01] oh well... thanks anyhow :( [20:01] I suggest popping back each time you login to irc to see if he's around [20:20] someone should check if Borian is ban evading, FloodBot1 seems to thinks so [20:21] what channel [20:21] ahh ubuntu [20:21] it's the only one the bots monitor [20:23] looks like he is [20:23] I'll remove [20:23] ikonia, sorry was away [20:24] not at all [20:24] no problem [20:24] pop79 trying to ban evade still I see [20:25] yup [20:25] although he claims he's not [20:25] hard to tell from the way he is talking in -ot [20:26] plus the fact that he pm'ed me asking not to ban him again after he had ban evaded [20:26] not exactly stealth behaviour [20:29] stdin: nice spot by the way [20:30] * jussi01 cries and curls up into the foetal position.... [20:30] [22:30:10] does alien come pre-installed on kubuntu 8.10?? [20:30] [22:30:10] does alien come pre-installed on kubuntu 8.10?? [20:30] ughh [20:31] bazhang, I think he's basically clueless about what ban evading is. [20:31] nickrud, it seems to be the case (this once) [20:31] not the first time I've seen it (cluelessness) I exhibit it in many spheres ;) [20:32] rofl nickrud [20:32] nickrud: it could also be playing dumb [20:32] haha [20:32] as he seemed to guess that changing his nick got him in quick enough [20:32] ikonia, true also [20:32] ikonia, and may think that means his ban is lifted, by definition. [20:32] possibly [20:32] nickrud: that sounds feasable [20:33] but then when he's told its not lifted he keeps trying and trys other nicks [20:34]