[00:16] <pteague> ubuntu no longer lists the md5sums for the iso's?
[00:20] <pteague> geeze...  yay google for something that should be listed on the download page >.>
[04:04] <ghost3> I have an ideal that id like to play with using the ubuntu server but I had some questions. my ideal is to build a couple server boxes for emergency communcations using wirless. first question; how hard is it to have the servers cloud their  connection and clients cloud the connection too?
[04:05] <ghost3> in away like olpc did their  clouding the network
[04:10] <ghost3> my server would provide all means of communacating i.e. ejabbered, phone server, basic web page chat page, etc etc...is there a project all ready in the works for this?
[04:14] <ghost3> well..if anyone has any ideals or can point me in the right direction please e-mail me at michaelhoward78@gmail.com thanks.
[06:16] <ball> Happy new year.
[06:45] <pteague> happy new year :)
[06:47] <pteague> considering all the nifty problems the file server i'm working on was having i thought i'd do a memory test... with all 3 168-pin sdram in i had over 150 errors by the time it finished the 4th test >_<
[06:47] <pteague> of course that's on top of 2 of 3 drives in a 3 drive raid5 array failing...
[06:48] <pteague> after testing all 3 of the dimms (512mb & 2x 256mb) only 1 of the 256mb is any good :(  ...  at least server only requires 256mb ram...
[06:54] <ball> pteague: I'd switch to your backup server until you have that machine thoroughly debugged (or replaced).
[06:54] <pteague> it's my parents' home file/web server
[06:55] <ball> Why mix 512M and 256M DIMMs?
[06:55] <ball> pteague: I hope you've got the data backed up then.
[06:56] <pteague> it's 1 of my old 1ghz mobo & cpu... it's been re-purposed so many times & i don't think the memory is what was originally in there
[06:57] <pteague> yes, it's backed up...  the plan was to have 2 raid5 file servers, there's & mine, & use rsync to back them up to the other
[06:57] <ball> mITX?
[06:57] <ball> pteague: ah good, it sounds as though you're on top of things then.
[06:57] <pteague> it's a full size atx in a full size tower case
[06:58] <pteague> mine is a mini-itx with a single 1gb chip & has a backplane with 4 hard drives in it...
[06:59] <ball> SCA?
[06:59] <pteague> i think what killed their hard drives this last summer was the 2x dehumidifiers & the open windows in the basement... & no fan <.<  they were having issues & i came over on a weekend & it was broiling
[06:59] <pteague> SCA?
[07:00] <ball> SCSI, 80-pin... often hot-swap
[07:01] <ball> Single Connector Attachment iirc
[07:03] <pteague> oh, nope... sata... found a nifty 4 sata connector pci card & bought 1 for both boxes...  considering my file server survived the summer (i think the backplane saved it) i got them the same backplane for theirs for xmas
[07:05] <pteague> i'm almost wondering if it'd save me a lot of pain & suffering to toss the old board, cpu, ram & case & buy the same hardware i got for mine
[07:05] <ball> parallel PCI?
[07:07] <ball> What's their existing array, PATA?
[07:08] <pteague> it's sata... i got the pci sata card over a year
[07:10] <ball> pteague: is it in a 64 bit slot, or at least a 66 MHz 32-bit one?
[07:11] <pteague> the atx board is pretty old... it was my desktop eons ago it's got 1 of those... oh, what where they? isa slots? on it...  the rest are pci
[07:12] <ball> You probably don't want to put SATA into one of those slots
[07:12] <ball> ...especially for more than two drives
[07:12] <pteague> it still has the 3.5" drive attached to the case, but that's not been connected to the motherboard in a long time >.>
[07:13] <pteague> would lshw tell me what kind of pci slots they are?
[07:14] <ball> I don't know Linux well enough to answer that one.
[07:14] <pteague> k
[07:14] <ball> The mainboard manual would, but if it's got ISA slots, they're probably basic 32-bit, 33 MHz ones
[07:14] <ball> ...all sharing bandwidth
[07:16] <pteague> it's just the 1 isa slot & i think it was on a separate channel or something... it does have an agp slot, 2x i think
[07:20] <ball> Right.  A board that old is going to be sharing very limited bandwidth amongst its PCI slots
[07:20] <ball> Hang more than a couple of drives off that, you may notice the bottlenecks
[07:21] <ball> What's in it?  Pentium III?
[07:23] <pteague> a 1ghz amd... athlon i think
[07:25] <ball> I have a couple of Athlons sitting around here. Can't find mainboards for them.
[07:25] <ball> One is Socket A (Athlon XP) and the other's Socket 939 (Athlon 64)
[07:25] <ball> I quite fancy a Sempron chip, but I should probably get an Athlon 64 for the virtualisation.
[07:35] <pteague> hmm...  considering the new intel mini-itx on newegg i may just grab that for my mythtv frontend & move the other boards around to upgrade my parents' file server
[07:37] <ball> Atom?
[07:43] <pteague> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121359
[07:44] <ball> ah, that's the dual-core jobbie
[07:46] <ball> Nice chip.  It has amd64, but lack VT afaik
[07:46] <pteague> i'm using the previous model for my mythtv frontend & it works great... granted, i'm not serving up hd content yet
[07:46] <ball> The 230?
[07:47] <pteague> i think it's this 1 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121342 - in which case yes
[07:47] <pteague> actually, i still have lshw up... yes, it is the 230
[07:47] <ball> That was on my Christmas list
[07:48] <ball> I have a case and PSU sat waiting for it.
[07:48] <ball> That's a great price considering it comes with the chip.
[07:50] <pteague> yep & considering the power consumption... :)
[07:50]  * ball nods
[07:51] <ball> Pity there's a fan on the chipset, but that can be fixed
[07:51] <pteague> i'm wondering if that's really on the cpu though...  on mine the cpu is fanless, it's the gpu that has the fan
[07:53] <ball> Well, it's on the N. bridge, which contains the GPU
[07:53] <ball> My ideal board wouldn't even have a GPU, but I'm considered unusual in my tastes.
[07:54] <pteague> for server or console only really don't need a gpu...  for the mythtv frontend i do though
[07:55]  * ball nods
[09:24] <techsupport> ubuntu 8.10 server installation asked me if i want to install virtual machine server, which virtual machine server are they talking about ?
[12:26] <eDeperatus> hello
[13:53] <magtom2003> morning all
[13:54] <magtom2003> is there a dummies guide anywhere for setting up a mail server?
[14:13] <yann2> apparmor broken in hardy > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor/+bug/268880 :(
[14:13] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 268880 in apparmor "aa-logprof : multiple Use of uninitialized value " [Undecided,Confirmed]
[14:25] <shubuntu> hi, does ubuntu have a web config similar to webmin or ispconfig?
[14:41] <andol> shubuntu: I belive e-box is the solution best integrated with ubuntu.
[14:42] <shubuntu> i checked the website, though there wasn't much info, i need to know if i offer ebox, instead of webmin / ispconfig my clients won't curse me
[14:42] <shubuntu> does it have a similar look and feel?
[14:44] <andol> shubuntu: No idea, I haven't really looked into neither webmin or e-box myself.
[14:44] <shubuntu> what do you offer to your clients?
[14:45] <andol> shubuntu: I don't have clients in that regard.
[14:45] <shubuntu> oh ok
[14:46] <shubuntu> thanks anyways
[14:54] <AdamDV> I have SSL setup on my domain (webmain shows that it's using an SSL cert, only it dosen't seem to be mine....) But I can't seem to get the actual site to use the cert, any ideas?
[14:56] <shubuntu> create your own ssl
[14:56] <AdamDV> Setup a self-signed SSL cewrtificate?
[14:57] <AdamDV> shubuntu: ?
[14:57] <Deeps> !webmin
[14:57] <Deeps> :(
[14:58] <shubuntu> apt-get install ssh openssh-server
[14:59] <AdamDV> Ermmm, webmin was just my example
[14:59] <AdamDV> Webmin: favicon blue
[14:59] <AdamDV> SIte: favicon gray <-- I want this blue, how ?
[14:59]  * AdamDV installs stuff
[14:59] <AdamDV> shubuntu: Done.
[15:00] <AdamDV> What now?
[15:01] <shubuntu> which distro are you on?
[15:01] <shubuntu> 8.0.4 / 10
[15:03] <shubuntu> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts
[15:03] <shubuntu> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-8.10
[15:03] <shubuntu> just follow that
[15:03] <shubuntu> will help you learn how to fix it up
[15:03] <shubuntu> if you only are interested in the mail bit, just follow the mail bits
[15:03] <shubuntu> !ebox
[15:03] <AdamDV> 8.04
[15:04] <shubuntu> then the first link is better suited for you
[15:04] <AdamDV> ermmm, I need the following still:
[15:04] <AdamDV> Dovecot / sendmail
[15:04] <AdamDV> SSL for the main site
[15:04] <AdamDV> SSL for mail
[15:04] <AdamDV> WIll that link work?
[15:05] <Deeps> gnuhost may be of interest to you
[15:05] <persia> Do you really need sendmail, or just an MTA?
[15:06] <Deeps> hmm, that not be what i was thinking of
[15:06] <Deeps> gplhost
[15:06] <Deeps> that's the one
[15:06] <Deeps> http://www.gplhost.com/software-dtc.html
[15:06] <AdamDV> I need an MTA that works with roundcube
[15:07] <AdamDV> That is EASY to set up.
[15:07] <AdamDV> and works with IMAP/POP3.
[15:07] <AdamDV> Possible? Postfix, sendmail, or somehting else?
[15:08] <persia> sendmail isn't known for it's ease of configuration.
[15:08] <shubuntu> that tells you how to create an ssl
[15:09] <shubuntu> you use openssl to create an rsa based ssl
[15:09] <shubuntu> just follow the link
[15:09] <Deeps> an ssl certificate*
[15:10] <Deeps> and postfix would be the recommended MTA to use in ubuntu
[15:10] <Deeps> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/postfix.html
[15:11] <AdamDV> Ok
[15:12] <AdamDV> Yesterday I tried that link, and the dovecot one, to no avail....
[15:13] <AdamDV> I think i should purge dovecot and sendmail and reinstall?
[15:14] <persia> reinstallation is drastic.  Purging should do all you need.
[15:16] <AdamDV> Oh, ya I meant reinstall dovecot and sendmail, not the OS :P
[15:16] <shubuntu> AdamDV: don't purge. remove
[15:17] <shubuntu> and then reinstall
[15:17] <AdamDV> I think i fscxked my configs
[15:17] <AdamDV> Ebox gives me thisL:
[15:17] <AdamDV> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[15:17] <AdamDV> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
[15:17] <AdamDV> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[15:17] <shubuntu> oooh
[15:17] <AdamDV> ANd jsut sits there....
[15:17] <shubuntu> install locales
[15:17] <shubuntu> haha
[15:17] <shubuntu> aptitude install language-pack-en
[15:17] <shubuntu> then dpkg-reconfigure locales
[15:18] <AdamDV> language-pack-en gives me the same error.....
[15:18] <AdamDV> ANd ctrl-C fixs it....
[15:18] <AdamDV> O.o
[15:18] <shubuntu> aptitude reinstall language-pack-en then
[15:19] <AdamDV> n_1%3a8.04+20080805_all.deb) ...
[15:19] <AdamDV> Unpacking replacement language-pack-en ...
[15:19] <AdamDV> Setting up ebox (0.11.99-0ubuntu11) ...
[15:19] <AdamDV> Errrr....
[15:19] <shubuntu> first install and fix your language pack
[15:19] <AdamDV> I did....
[15:19] <shubuntu> then reconfigure your locales
[15:19] <AdamDV> Ok..
[15:20] <shubuntu> then aptitude install ebox-all
[15:20] <AdamDV> Ok
[15:20] <shubuntu> although ispconfig is really good too
[15:20] <shubuntu> if you wanna build it, you'd be really in for a good treat with that
[15:20] <AdamDV> What is it?
[15:21] <AdamDV> root@ubuntu:/etc/apache2/sites-available# dpkg --configure -a
[15:21] <AdamDV> Setting up ebox (0.11.99-0ubuntu11) ...
[15:21] <AdamDV> O_O?
[15:21] <AdamDV> Ok, ebox sucks. Fuck it. Can I see some ISPconfig screenies?
[15:24] <shubuntu> http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=ispconfig&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2
[15:27] <AdamDV> SOrry, kernel panic'd
[15:28] <AdamDV> Is postfix install and go?
[15:28] <AdamDV> What was that SSL link again?
[15:28] <AdamDV> Deeps?
[15:56] <netz>     /SET autocreate_own_query OFF
[19:30] <LinuxLover4> I have an Ubuntu Server 8.10, How can I control the fan speeds on my server?? I have an Intel SE7501B42 MotherBoard
[19:53] <LinuxLover4_> I have an Ubuntu Server 8.10, How can I control the fan speeds on my server?? I have an Intel SE7501B42 MotherBoard
[20:31] <nealmcb> kees: have you seen the renewal of the google android root exploit? http://www.gotontheinter.net/content/rc30-downgrade-merry-christmas-everyone
[20:33] <_CitizenKane_> Is php-gd installed by default with ubuntu server AMP stack?
[21:33] <yann2> is anyone here using apparmor? it seems totally broken to me...
[21:33] <yann2> (in hardy)
[21:41] <kso512> yann2: i haven't cracked that shell yet...
[21:41] <yann2> kso512 ?
[21:42] <kso512> yann2: the apparmor "shell" - I haven't tinkered with it yet..
[21:43] <yann2> I'm speaking of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor/+bug/268880 :(
[21:43] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 268880 in apparmor "aa-logprof : multiple Use of uninitialized value " [Undecided,Confirmed]
[21:45] <kees> nealmcb: ooh, neato
[21:48] <kees> yann2: apparmor works great for me in hardy
[21:48] <yann2> your got a profile for /usr/lib/cg-bin/php5? :)
[21:48] <kees> yann2: some of the helper log parsing tools could use some polish, but AA itself is great
[21:49] <kees> yann2: nope, haven't tried doing apache confinement yet
[21:49] <yann2> well right now I can't use it without that aa log analyzer :(
[22:32] <fiXXXerMet> I have a freshly installed 8.10 64bit server install and I want to do a full apt-get dist-upgrade.  Is there a way to also save those packages (the ones being upgraded / installed) to a CD, so that if I have to reinstall, apt will get those packages from CD?
[22:36] <hads> The packages will be cached in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[22:37] <fiXXXerMet> So I could just copy them to a CD, and then copy them back to /var/cache/apt/archves/ after I reinstall, then apt would pick them up from there?
[22:38] <ScottK> Ther'es also a package called aptoncd.  Dunno how well it works.
[22:38] <fiXXXerMet> brb, dinner
[23:27] <veloc1ty> hi, i wonder if anyone can help me to figure out some strange things in my apache logfile?
[23:27] <veloc1ty> get requests wich look like a bruteforce attack
[23:29] <hads> Sounds pretty standard
[23:29] <veloc1ty> hopefully.. i'm a newbie with server stuff ;)
[23:30] <veloc1ty> what i get is stuff like this: 87.106.11.67 - - [02/Jan/2009:00:02:59 +0100] "GET http://login1.login.vip.dcn.yahoo.com/config/login?.patner=sbc&login=__36ddd&passwd=penny&.save=1 HTTP/1.0 " 404 36050 "-" "-"
[23:30] <veloc1ty> it's in the access.log
[23:30] <veloc1ty> i'm wondering if it's harmless or something wich needs to be investigated