| JontheEchidna | http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20081230/NEWS01/81230011 | 02:11 |
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| vorian | JontheEchidna: i read that as man jumps out of a 72 story building and extinguishes fire | 02:25 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 02:26 |
| JontheEchidna | me too at first | 02:26 |
| vorian | i was like, at least he went out as a hero | 02:26 |
| JontheEchidna | must be like Rambo's dad or something | 02:26 |
| vorian | eeew | 02:26 |
| vorian | batavia ny | 02:26 |
| vorian | that's the half way point 'tween buffalo and rochester | 02:27 |
| vorian | i didn't think they had two story buildings there | 02:27 |
| vorian | omg | 02:28 |
| vorian | algore was right | 02:28 |
| vorian | http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?template=zoom&Site=A2&Date=20090101&Category=NEWS01&ArtNo=901010327&Ref=AR | 02:28 |
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| JontheEchidna | ...why is there a .dll extension in that url? Can you really program websites that use dll-type crap? | 02:33 |
| JontheEchidna | that makes my sad v.v | 02:33 |
| vorian | hehe | 02:33 |
| JontheEchidna | I can never get more than 30 kB/s with archive.ubuntu.com... | 02:48 |
| JontheEchidna | for very long | 02:48 |
| JontheEchidna | 49% [209 lokalize 363911/571kB 63%] 25.3kB/s 2h20min8s | 02:49 |
| jjesse | just created a jaunty vm and kontact is not installed by default? | 02:49 |
| JontheEchidna | jjesse: it was kicked off the seed at the last minute for alpha2 due to cd size restrictions, its removal shouldn't be permanent | 02:50 |
| jjesse | JontheEchidna: cool thanks, seems like a lot of extra packages get installed with sudo apt-get install kontact | 02:51 |
| nixternal | oi oi...gone back to using urxvt...lookin' secksi | 02:58 |
| nixternal | though I must admin the refresh is a little slow for some reason, but I won't blame that on urxvt as much as I will on "yet another KDE 4 memory leak" | 02:58 |
| nixternal | s/admin/admit | 02:58 |
| vorian | nixternal: your urxvt looks great! | 03:22 |
| nixternal | almost how it looked about 10+ years ago | 03:23 |
| vorian | i like your app launcher too :) | 03:23 |
| vorian | would be nice to get it as a default | 03:24 |
| nixternal | ya, someone put it on kde-look.org | 03:24 |
| JontheEchidna | hotness | 03:41 |
| DaSkreech | moto moto | 03:42 |
| DaSkreech | Am I the only person who doesn' have dolphin's view move with the selection ? | 03:48 |
| === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh | ||
| astromme_ | DaSkreech: Nope, it doesn't move for me either. 4.1.85 on Kubuntu Jaunty here | 04:24 |
| DaSkreech | That sucks | 05:08 |
| JontheEchidna | jaunty upgrade went smoothly | 05:42 |
| JontheEchidna | only ran in to 2 overwrite bugs and a python bug that I could all easily work around | 05:42 |
| DaSkreech | How's the Jackalope? | 05:43 |
| JontheEchidna | plus... X works (after I pinned old versions of the nvidia driver plus xserver-core) | 05:43 |
| JontheEchidna | s/after/since | 05:43 |
| * DaSkreech throws penguin eggs at X | 05:44 | |
| * NCommander yawns | 05:44 | |
| NCommander | Finally back home | 05:45 |
| NCommander | and KDE is (mostly) working on ARM | 05:45 |
| * JontheEchidna goes to bed now | 05:45 | |
| NCommander | :-P | 05:45 |
| * NCommander is taking a look at fixing KDE bluetooth | 05:46 | |
| NCommander | KDE 4.2 is nice ... | 05:52 |
| NCommander | wow, kbluetooth is REALLY broken | 05:56 |
| NCommander | and quite dead upstream ... | 05:57 |
| DaSkreech | Yep | 05:58 |
| DaSkreech | If you start massaging it upstream you'll probably get a few other distros jumping in | 05:58 |
| DaSkreech | No one really wants it broken | 05:58 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: got fixes for the overwrite bugs? | 06:01 |
| NCommander | DaSkreech, its bitrotten to the point of unusability | 06:01 |
| DaSkreech | NCommander: How bad? Scorched earth bad? | 06:01 |
| NCommander | Referencing non-existant Solid APIs, and the binaries segfault on jaunty | 06:02 |
| NCommander | and its doing the referencing form moc files it seems | 06:02 |
| NCommander | so yeah | 06:02 |
| NCommander | its bad | 06:02 |
| NCommander | solid's bluetooth stack is a load of fail ATM | 06:05 |
| NCommander | Half of its commented out ... | 06:05 |
| NCommander | DId we do that, or is that upstreams doing | 06:05 |
| DaSkreech | NCommander: Check it against trunk | 06:09 |
| NCommander | I'm checking | 06:09 |
| NCommander | this code doesn't even look similar to trunk ... | 06:09 |
| DaSkreech | Please don't tell me it's better | 06:09 |
| NCommander | oh | 06:12 |
| NCommander | this is ugly | 06:12 |
| NCommander | I think solid's maintainer disappeared | 06:12 |
| NCommander | a large changeset was committed to solid's Bluetooth API | 06:12 |
| NCommander | which broke the build | 06:12 |
| NCommander | so the vast majority of the API is commented out .... | 06:12 |
| DaSkreech | What? Solid can't be dead I heard someone blogging it less than 2 months ago | 06:13 |
| NCommander | Which was the time these changes were made. | 06:13 |
| NCommander | 8 weeks ago | 06:13 |
| NCommander | Fixing kdebluetooth means descrewing solid | 06:15 |
| NCommander | It's not going to be a quick hackjob ... | 06:15 |
| * NCommander notes its probably easier or saner to simply port the GNOME bluetooth app | 06:16 | |
| apachelogger | NCommander: there is nothing to descrew in solid | 06:18 |
| NCommander | Care to explain why the vast majority of bluetooth APIs are descrewed with commit messages "Fixing API breakage"? | 06:18 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, ^ | 06:18 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 06:19 |
| NCommander | s/descrewed/commented out/g | 06:19 |
| NCommander | I pinged one of the maintainer of this code on IRC< maybe I can know what if any plans are | 06:19 |
| apachelogger | DaSkreech: bluetooth is no maintained by ervin | 06:19 |
| NCommander | But its not an Ubuntu specific issue | 06:19 |
| DaSkreech | Is no maintained? | 06:20 |
| apachelogger | *not | 06:20 |
| NCommander | I think he meant not | 06:20 |
| * apachelogger only got up after 4 hours of sleep :P | 06:20 | |
| NCommander | apachelogger, what specificially is solid? | 06:20 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: hardware abstraction | 06:21 |
| NCommander | Oh, I see. | 06:21 |
| * NCommander winces | 06:21 | |
| DaSkreech | Oh I thought that might be what he was saying but then you could replace ervin with any of 6 billion names so I didn't quite see the point | 06:21 |
| DaSkreech | And notification | 06:21 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: http://www.englishbreakfastnetwork.org/apidocs/apidox-kde-4.1/kdelibs-apidocs/solid/html/index.html | 06:21 |
| DaSkreech | So if the hardware changes Solid says what and why | 06:21 |
| NCommander | Handy | 06:21 |
| NCommander | The BlueZ 4 change broke the solid compile | 06:22 |
| NCommander | so it looks like someone just commented out that entire block of code | 06:22 |
| DaSkreech | It's essentially a KDE abstraction of the udev abstraction of the hardware abstraction layer | 06:22 |
| NCommander | ETOOMANYLAYERSOFABSTRACTION | 06:22 |
| DaSkreech | They had a KDEshirt that said that | 06:22 |
| DaSkreech | Abstracted by the Abstract KDE abstraction library | 06:23 |
| NCommander | -_-; | 06:23 |
| apachelogger | classic one | 06:23 |
| apachelogger | makes my heart smile | 06:23 |
| * apachelogger goes fix0ring bugs | 06:23 | |
| NCommander | fix solid :-) | 06:23 |
| * NCommander runs | 06:23 | |
| apachelogger | one gone, 3 billion to go | 06:24 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, your debugging Windows Vista? | 06:24 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: solid doesn't need fixing, only the bluez module | 06:24 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: no ubuntu :P | 06:24 |
| NCommander | *solid-bluez | 06:24 |
| * apachelogger doesn't even have bluetooth to test with | 06:24 | |
| apachelogger | and through kdt we always see where I get with theoretical implementations :P | 06:25 |
| NCommander | How hard is it to get access to the SVN repo | 06:26 |
| NCommander | ERANDOMQUESTION | 06:26 |
| apachelogger | basically you just need to request one | 06:27 |
| NCommander | Where's the catch? | 06:27 |
| apachelogger | sysadmins are on vacation :P | 06:28 |
| NCommander | so just like Debian then | 06:28 |
| NCommander | :-) | 06:28 |
| apachelogger | ftp.kde.org is down for days now | 06:28 |
| NCommander | I'm really suprisied no one has fixed this | 06:29 |
| NCommander | since any distro shipping KDE has non-functional bluetooth | 06:29 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: http://techbase.kde.org/Contribute/Get_a_SVN_Account | 06:29 |
| * NCommander gets that odd stupid feeling I'm not going to see Xfce for awhile | 06:30 | |
| * NCommander caused a small scandle when I showed up at a Kubuntu meeting running Xubuntu | 06:31 | |
| DaSkreech | I should hope so | 06:31 |
| apachelogger | you did? | 06:31 |
| NCommander | People were under this odd assumption that I actually use KDE :-P | 06:31 |
| apachelogger | where I drunk that meeting? | 06:31 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, you weren't at UDS | 06:32 |
| apachelogger | oh | 06:32 |
| * apachelogger is nowhere | 06:32 | |
| * NCommander is everywhere | 06:32 | |
| apachelogger | not at UDS, not at camp KDE, not at linuxtag... | 06:32 |
| NCommander | #kubuntu-devel - Where KDE and Zen Saying meet | 06:32 |
| * NCommander grabs the source package | 06:33 | |
| DaSkreech | ok Gotta stop listening to Depeche Mode | 06:35 |
| apachelogger | DaSkreech: how so? | 06:38 |
| DaSkreech | By switching to a new band? | 06:38 |
| apachelogger | DaSkreech: hm, that could work | 06:38 |
| DaSkreech | I'm on Aqualung now | 06:39 |
| apachelogger | not that I know that though | 06:39 |
| DaSkreech | It's just an Extra Ordinary Thing | 06:40 |
| apachelogger | *nod* | 06:40 |
| apachelogger | oh dear, nc crashed | 06:40 |
| apachelogger | wb NCommander | 06:41 |
| NCommander | thanks | 06:41 |
| * NCommander is mulling over his constitution | 06:41 | |
| DaSkreech | That this be true all men were created equal Unless they should be sent to Guantunamo Bay then maybe they were a litle less | 06:43 |
| DaSkreech | apachelogger: Good night | 07:09 |
| apachelogger | nini DaSkreech | 07:09 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 08:05 |
| apachelogger | rosetta has one month import lag right now | 08:05 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: btw, when do we get our nokia thingies? :P | 08:20 |
| Arby | apachelogger: do you have a minute to look at bug 312771 with your packaging guru hat on? | 08:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 312771 in kdepim "libkpilot_akonadibase missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/312771 | 08:42 |
| apachelogger | I did look at it | 08:43 |
| apachelogger | and decided to stop looking at it | 08:43 |
| Arby | I'v looked into it and I think it's just a missing entry in the kpilot.install file | 08:43 |
| apachelogger | well | 08:43 |
| Arby | ah, why? | 08:43 |
| apachelogger | Arby: do you have a list-missing from kdepim | 08:43 |
| apachelogger | the only references I found to that file is a .so in /usr/lib | 08:43 |
| Arby | somewhere yes, and I don't recall seeing it there | 08:44 |
| apachelogger | and I certainly don't hope it is a lib without soname | 08:44 |
| apachelogger | Arby: I would ask how he comes to the conclusion that that file is missing and that it being missing is responsible for the broken conduits | 08:45 |
| Arby | it gets compiled but not installed as far as I can see | 08:45 |
| Arby | home/richard/dev/cache/pbuilder/build/30041/tmp/buildd/kdepim-4.1.85/debian/tmp/usr/lib/libkpilot_akonadibase.so | 08:45 |
| apachelogger | well | 08:45 |
| Arby | it does seem as if mandriva had the same bug a bit back | 08:46 |
| Arby | http://www.nabble.com/-Bug-45299--kdepim4,-NEW:-kpilot-requires-file-libkpilot_akonadibase.so-from-kdepim4-devel-p20162890.html | 08:46 |
| apachelogger | I think kpilot violates KDE's policy on lib install paths | 08:47 |
| apachelogger | Arby: add it to kpilot.install ... the lib is soname-less, even though it shouldn't be (which is the reason mandriva assumed it is a usual .so file for development and add it to their -devel and the reason we have it in our not-installed) | 08:49 |
| apachelogger | that said | 08:49 |
| apachelogger | Arby: remove it from the not-installed when you add it to kpilot.install | 08:49 |
| apachelogger | Arby: you can commit the change using --fixes lp:BUGNUMBER to link the branch to the bug | 08:49 |
| Arby | will do, what do you mean by soname-less? back to me and libs again :) | 08:50 |
| apachelogger | Arby: it doesn't have a versioning ... usually you would have .so.x.y.z .so.x .so files ... libkpilot_akonadibase only has a .so | 08:52 |
| Arby | ah ok I understand | 08:52 |
| apachelogger | if you remember... .so files usually are links to .so.x and .so.x is a link to .so.x.y.z | 08:52 |
| apachelogger | of course .so can't be a link to .so.x if the latter is not even existing ;-) | 08:53 |
| Arby | I remember | 08:53 |
| Arby | it was the definition of soname-less I was missing, I get it now | 08:53 |
| apachelogger | k | 08:53 |
| apachelogger | <3 broken tarballs | 08:53 |
| * Arby reaches for batbuild :) | 08:54 | |
| apachelogger | -(~/src/choqok:$)-> ls -lah | grep tar | 08:54 |
| apachelogger | -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 45 2009-01-01 19:31 choqok.tar.gz | 08:54 |
| apachelogger | needless to say src/choqok is already the extracted source | 08:54 |
| Arby | recursive tarballs? | 08:55 |
| apachelogger | well, I think the dev is as good with taring stuff as I am ... so the first try to tar went wrong ;-) | 08:55 |
| apachelogger | which probably is a good reason to get himself a fine release script | 08:56 |
| apachelogger | which makes me think that my extragear release script needs a new layer of abstraction to make it useful for non-extragear apps | 08:56 |
| Arby | hooray for scripts | 09:00 |
| Arby | and automation in general | 09:00 |
| * apachelogger plays the moby | 09:02 | |
| * Arby leaves kdepim to compile and goes in search of breakfast | 09:02 | |
| apachelogger | todo: rewrite dh_make | 09:08 |
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| Arby | apachelogger: if I send you a debdiff for kdepim can you review and upload please? | 11:34 |
| Arby | sent | 11:42 |
| * jussi01 grumbles at annoying bugs that make the pc not boot | 11:47 | |
| apachelogger | Arby: just push the kdepim branch | 12:01 |
| Arby | oh right we're doing it that way now | 12:02 |
| Arby | I just did apt-get source | 12:03 |
| Arby | apachelogger: is it possible for me to pull the branch, apply the diff and push back? | 12:03 |
| apachelogger | yes | 12:05 |
| * Arby looks up how to apply a diff in bzr | 12:07 | |
| apachelogger | Arby: patch -p0 < debdiff? :P | 12:10 |
| Arby | if you say so :) | 12:10 |
| Arby | just one of the gazillions of things I've never needed to know | 12:10 |
| apachelogger | or patch -p1 < debdiff if you are in the main directory (the one with debian/) | 12:11 |
| Arby | apachelogger: where in the source tree do I need to be when I issue that^^? | 12:11 |
| Arby | ah that answers that | 12:11 |
| Arby | apachelogger: do I need a commit comment or are they automagically generated from the changelog? | 12:14 |
| apachelogger | Arby: debcommit -R should take care of that | 12:16 |
| Arby | apachelogger: done, thanks for the pointers | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | Arby: usually you should use UNRELEASED for distribution name to make it clear that these changes were not uploaded | 12:33 |
| apachelogger | change looking good otherwise | 12:33 |
| Arby | apachelogger: ok noted | 12:34 |
| lool | apachelogger: Re:cdbs 0.4.52ubuntu10: you might want to consider testing for $(DEB_PATCHDIRS) being present instead as it's an override for QUILT_PATCHES supported by patchsys-quilt.mk | 12:46 |
| jussi01 | is the 64 bit flash plugin packaged for ubuntu yet? | 12:54 |
| jussi01 | I mean intrepid | 12:54 |
| Tm_T | indeed | 12:58 |
| jussi01 | Tm_T: it is? | 12:58 |
| Tm_T | jussi01: no, I have no idea about that | 12:58 |
| jussi01 | hehe | 12:58 |
| Tm_T | I was loudly thinking of Qt packaging | 12:59 |
| jussi01 | Tm_T: do you know where to put the libflashplayer.so for a manual install? | 12:59 |
| Tm_T | /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so | 13:00 |
| Tm_T | ? | 13:00 |
| jussi01 | hrm, ok... | 13:00 |
| Tm_T | that's where it is here | 13:01 |
| Tm_T | but I'm on 32bit system | 13:01 |
| Tm_T | I think we need a patch for our current Qt | 13:01 |
| Tm_T | 0260-fix-qgraphicswidget-deletionclearFocus.diff | 13:02 |
| Tm_T | fixes some plasma crashes and stuff | 13:02 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: one is that koffice2 one with the oxygen icons and one is one in libdrm2 with libdrm-intel1 or something | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | I thought koffice is fixed? | 14:06 |
| JontheEchidna | guess not | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | more information | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | lool: that var might not be set, or is it set by cdbs internally if none provided? | 14:09 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, there's an upgrade to koffice now | 14:40 |
| JontheEchidna | maybe it has been fixed :P | 14:40 |
| vorian | JontheEchidna: :o | 14:55 |
| vorian | i never got to test the beta packaging that fella did | 14:55 |
| JontheEchidna | 1:1.9.98.4-0ubuntu1 is wut I just got | 14:55 |
| JontheEchidna | Seems to install fine too :) | 14:56 |
| JontheEchidna | Tm_T: I added that patch to jaunty, never got around to preparing an SRU for Intrepid | 14:56 |
| * JontheEchidna cleans out old kernels | 15:21 | |
| lool | apachelogger: It might not be set; in which case it's sensible to default to debian/patches | 15:41 |
| lool | Well $(CURDIR)/debian/patches rather | 15:42 |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: I see | 16:38 |
| apachelogger | vorian: yeah, we kind of skipped a beta :P | 16:57 |
| vorian | hehe | 16:58 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna, vorian: if someone feels like backporting... ;-) | 16:58 |
| vorian | I was having the baby and stuff | 16:58 |
| Tm_T | vorian: when? | 16:58 |
| apachelogger | not so sure, I still didn't see pix :P | 16:58 |
| vorian | ummm | 16:58 |
| vorian | 14th :) | 16:58 |
| vorian | grr, hold please :) | 16:59 |
| Tm_T | vorian: bah, I have 7-week old daughter here | 16:59 |
| apachelogger | lool: that means I need to find out how to create compound conditions :P | 16:59 |
| vorian | Tm_T: Congrats! | 17:00 |
| apachelogger | vorian, Tm_T: I hope they got names with at least one kay | 17:00 |
| vorian | mmm | 17:01 |
| vorian | gregory scott for me | 17:01 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: last name has 3 | 17:02 |
| vorian | http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=51387&l=7435a&id=803693404 | 17:03 |
| vorian | had to find the wifes photos | 17:03 |
| vorian | as i broke her blog :o | 17:03 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: perfect | 17:03 |
| apachelogger | vorian: also perfect :P | 17:03 |
| apachelogger | facebook is the slowest -.- | 17:03 |
| vorian | you'll also see the awesome present i got my wife.... | 17:04 |
| vorian | a backpack blower! | 17:04 |
| apachelogger | wahhh :D | 17:04 |
| apachelogger | most awesome | 17:04 |
| apachelogger | vorian: lovely baby as well | 17:05 |
| vorian | thanke | 17:05 |
| JontheEchidna | Hmm, so I should be able to port software-properties-kde over to KCM easily enough, but keeping its standalone functionality would be a bit more difficult... | 17:23 |
| JontheEchidna | Since its a dialog anyway maybe we could just change things to launch it in kcmshell :P | 17:23 |
| JontheEchidna | hrm... | 17:24 |
| afiestas | Riddell: ping | 17:34 |
| lool | apachelogger: Eh :) $(if $(DEB_PATCHDIRS),$(DEB_PATCHDIRS),$(CURDIR)/debian/patches) | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | that looks workaroundish :P | 17:36 |
| NCommander | hey apachelogger & ScottK | 17:37 |
| lool | apachelogger: It's cdbs-style: grep '\$(if ' /usr/share/cdbs -r | wc -l! | 17:37 |
| apachelogger | *nod* cdbs always was a big woraround :P | 17:37 |
| * lool notes down the quote | 17:38 | |
| apachelogger | lool: wouldn't that only work within a target? | 17:38 |
| lool | I don't think it works any less than $(wildcards ), but I'm sometimes proven wrong | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | maybe ifeq ($(if...)) | 17:40 |
| lool | Or let's say regularly proven wrong, that's less presumptuous | 17:40 |
| lool | apachelogger: Oh yes, I intended the above as a replacement of $(DEB_PATCHDIRS) in your expression | 17:40 |
| lool | Not as a replacement of the ifeq | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | more sensible | 17:41 |
| * apachelogger tries | 17:41 | |
| apachelogger | or not | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | I am out of diskspace | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 17:41 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: What do you use to list all the mailboxes in a column in mutt? I always go 'c?' and then arrow around to change mine... | 17:48 |
| nhandler | ryanakca: That is what I do too | 17:49 |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: can you take qt4.4.3 in intrepid? | 17:49 |
| JontheEchidna | you mean add the patch to the 4.4.3 packages in intrepid? | 17:49 |
| Tm_T | yes | 17:49 |
| Tm_T | so I can concentrate on 4.5 | 17:50 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, I can. In the meantime you can use the packages in my ppa for intrepid if you really need the patch | 17:50 |
| Riddell | afiestas: you pinged? | 17:51 |
| apachelogger | lool: doesn't work too well | 17:52 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: you are doing 4.5? | 17:52 |
| apachelogger | b1? | 17:52 |
| Tm_T | yes | 17:52 |
| apachelogger | oh | 17:53 |
| Tm_T | and daily | 17:53 |
| lool | apachelogger: You need to set DEB_PATCHDIRS before the include, is that what you mean? | 17:53 |
| * apachelogger was starting on it as well :P | 17:53 | |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: (:) | 17:53 |
| lool | apachelogger: Alternatively, you could also just mkdir debian/patches and forget about it :-P | 17:53 |
| apachelogger | you are confusing me :P | 17:54 |
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| Tm_T | apachelogger: did you already check what patches should remain? | 17:57 |
| apachelogger | nope | 17:57 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: from my point of view they all should go anyway | 17:57 |
| apachelogger | patches-- | 17:57 |
| afiestas | Riddell: ya, you are the author of the kmix osd, right? | 17:58 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: heh, maybe I make first package that way | 17:58 |
| Riddell | afiestas: yes | 17:58 |
| afiestas | I want fix the dualmonitor support on it, but maybe you can do it easily (since you wrote the code) | 17:59 |
| afiestas | the are some small problems with the position if you have 2 monitors with different resolutions | 17:59 |
| Riddell | afiestas: patches indeed welcome | 17:59 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: hmm, should I do b1 or go directly to b1+daily ? | 18:00 |
| afiestas | ook, I'll try to do it today | 18:00 |
| Riddell | afiestas: you'd need to look at the 4.2 beta for the current code (which was actually committed by someone not me so might be a bit different) | 18:00 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: I really think daily of Qt doesn't make too much sense | 18:00 |
| afiestas | Riddell: I'm reading and using 4.2 so np | 18:00 |
| Riddell | good luck afiestas | 18:00 |
| afiestas | so, I should send the patch to you, or just in the mailist? | 18:00 |
| Riddell | afiestas: me is fine | 18:01 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: heh, might be so | 18:01 |
| afiestas | oks, I'll, thx ! | 18:01 |
| Tm_T | someone have to instruct me with ppa at some point then | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA | 18:22 |
| Tm_T | thanks | 18:22 |
| Tm_T | that'll do it | 18:22 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: hmm, beta1 would be 4.4.90 ? | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: 4.5~beta1 | 18:24 |
| Tm_T | ah, roger | 18:25 |
| apachelogger | rofl | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqzHcbhGWNk | 18:29 |
| JontheEchidna | lmao | 18:31 |
| * apachelogger needs to become a super sing star dude | 18:33 | |
| nixternal | ryanakca: that is the mutt-patched package...it is called patch because it contains the patch for adding a mailbox list | 18:34 |
| ryanakca | nhandler: ^^ | 18:36 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: thanks | 18:36 |
| apachelogger | ~np | 18:37 |
| kubotu | apachelogger is listening to "You're Wondering Now" by Amy Winehouse [Back to Black (Deluxe Edition), 2007] | 18:37 |
| nhandler | ryanakca: I'm installing mutt-patched now ;) | 18:37 |
| NCommander | ~np | 18:37 |
| kubotu | NCommander listened to "Sonikku Ganbatte!" by Mario 34 hours ago | 18:37 |
| NCommander | -_-; | 18:37 |
| ryanakca | ~np | 18:37 |
| kubotu | ryanakca listened to "Tout en haut de la France" by Quendi 16 minutes ago | 18:37 |
| ryanakca | heh :) | 18:37 |
| nhandler | ~np | 18:38 |
| kubotu | nhandler listened to "Good Time" by Alan Jackson [Good Time, 2008] 3 weeks ago | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | dood | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | 3 weeks? | 18:38 |
| nhandler | Where is that from? last.fm? | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | aye | 18:38 |
| nhandler | That is why. I haven't used last.f for a while | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | no good | 18:39 |
| * ryanakca cheers... looks like rounding is working / will work on the new wiki theme | 18:40 | |
| * apachelogger sings about monkey men | 18:41 | |
| Tm_T | ~np | 18:51 |
| kubotu | Tm_T is listening to "Angel of Mercy" by Dire Straits [Communiqué, 2000] | 18:51 |
| Tm_T | bah | 18:51 |
| Tm_T | ~lastfm recenttracks | 18:51 |
| kubotu | recenttracks for Tm_T: | 18:51 |
| kubotu | Mercyful Fate – At the Sound of the Demon Bell, Metallica – Merciful Fate, Mercyful Fate – At the Sound of the Demon Bell, Mercyful Fate – Into the Coven | 18:51 |
| NCommander | ~lastfm NCommander | 18:59 |
| kubotu | NCommander listened to "Sonikku Ganbatte!" by Mario 34 hours ago | 18:59 |
| NCommander | oh wait | 18:59 |
| NCommander | ~lastfm recenttracks | 18:59 |
| kubotu | recenttracks for NCommander: | 18:59 |
| kubotu | Mario – Sonikku Ganbatte!, Richter – Bring in the Machine, Sadorf – Aquatic Project, Aeolius – Apocalypric Orbital Ovum | 18:59 |
| NCommander | Neat | 18:59 |
| jussi01 | does anyone here have a backlog of planet ubuntu in theirr feed reader? | 19:01 |
| * ryanakca wonders when he'll receive his ``Would you like to renew your Kubuntu membership'' email... only 5 days 'till expiry | 19:08 | |
| jussi01 | ryanakca: you get one of them? | 19:09 |
| ryanakca | jussi01: so I'm told... | 19:09 |
| jussi01 | right then... :) | 19:09 |
| ryanakca | Should wiki.kubuntu.org keep a list of links (appearance: www.kubuntu.org, top right) with a search box, or go for a cleaner / less cluttered look with only a search box, like help.ubuntu.com/community/ ? | 19:12 |
| jjesse | like help.ubuntu.com/community | 19:13 |
| nhandler | jussi01: What are you looking for on planet ubuntu? | 19:15 |
| jussi01 | nhandler: got it already, thanks anyway (was looking for this: http://en.andregondim.eti.br/?p=69 ) :) | 19:16 |
| nhandler | Ok. glad you found it | 19:16 |
| Tm_T | brrrrh | 19:33 |
| jussi01 | Tm_T: cold? | 19:36 |
| Tm_T | nah, just takes ages to build Qt | 19:36 |
| * ryanakca remembers when he used to rebuild KDE4 everynight... | 19:37 | |
| Tm_T | ryanakca: I do it several times a day | 19:38 |
| Tm_T | ryanakca: it's not a problem, but Qt takes ages to build | 19:38 |
| ryanakca | ah... | 19:38 |
| Tm_T | when building daily or more often, KDE4 has only few things it builds again | 19:39 |
| seele | Nightrose: ping | 19:55 |
| Nightrose | seele: pong | 20:37 |
| seele | Nightrose: on my TODO i have a note to talk to you about Intrepid upgrades and what problems they had when upgrading from 3/4 and 4/4 | 20:57 |
| seele | Nightrose: do you have any particular problems which come to mind? | 20:58 |
| Nightrose | seele: hmmm i'll think about it - right now i can only think of some kmail problems | 21:01 |
| seele | Nightrose: ok.. let me know | 21:02 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, can you help me at some point work on getting KDE's fixes upstream? | 21:02 |
| Nightrose | seele: will do - maybe also talk to claydo (?) - he was doing user support on the mailinglist afaik - he might know more | 21:02 |
| seele | Nightrose: ok, thanks | 21:03 |
| jussi01 | hmmm, lovely... klear has a bug :/ | 21:05 |
| antiquark | Are the Kubuntu packagers aware that the 4.2 packages do not install some of the data engines (RSS, weather, news) and as a result some of the plasmoids don't work? | 21:14 |
| vorian | antiquark: are you aware that some of the older plasmoids have not been updated (by their upstream authors) to work with 4.2? | 21:17 |
| vorian | it is unfortunate :( | 21:18 |
| vorian | antiquark: please check for bug reports, and confirm or add to them. If there are none that exist, please file a new one :) | 21:18 |
| antiquark | I already filed a bug report on the KDE bugzilla and was toold by seigo that they do work and it is almost certainly a packaging problem. I'm talking about Weather LCD, RSSNOW and the news plasmoid | 21:20 |
| vorian | have you checked launchpad for these bugs? | 21:21 |
| antiquark | No I didn't. The Ubuntu Launchpad? | 21:21 |
| vorian | launchpad.net, yes | 21:21 |
| antiquark | ok, I'll have a look | 21:22 |
| vorian | thanks! | 21:23 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Pong. | 21:38 |
| NCommander | ScottK, I took a look at the bluetooth situation | 21:48 |
| NCommander | Its not pretty | 21:48 |
| NCommander | ScottK, BTW, feel like sponsoring a fix? | 22:07 |
| jjesse | what benifit do i get by setting things to utilize akondi? like enabling akondi for kontact, korganzier, etc? | 22:38 |
| jjesse | hrm kontact wont' start now that sucks: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/98599/ | 22:47 |
| === robotgee1 is now known as robotgeek | ||
| ScottK | NCommander: About to head out for a while. Later tonight. | 23:48 |
| NCommander | Ok, cya | 23:48 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Will this fix get bluetooth actually working or just building on armel? | 23:49 |
| NCommander | No, this is an unrelated fix :-P | 23:49 |
| ScottK | NCommander: OK. I guess I don' t know the point if it doesn't make it work. I'd say just toss the patch into bzr and we'll do it with the 4.2 RC then. | 23:56 |
| NCommander | ScottK, this isn't for kdebluetooth! | 23:56 |
| * NCommander falls over | 23:56 | |
| ScottK | Ah. OK. What then? | 23:56 |
| NCommander | fontforge | 23:56 |
| NCommander | to fix kdebluetooth means fixing solid | 23:56 |
| * NCommander winces | 23:57 | |
| NCommander | solid-bt is REALLY broken | 23:57 |
| ScottK | Maybe later tonight then. | 23:57 |
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