| terli | have the maintainers already locked down the package revisions? | 01:19 |
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| crimsun | terli: come again? | 01:41 |
| crimsun | it is such a pain that all these media players save libraries to their own formats | 01:43 |
| crimsun | syncing rhythmbox, sonata/mpd, banshee, and songbird is a PITA | 01:44 |
| terli | chrimsun | 01:47 |
| terli | I just use a folder for my music | 01:47 |
| terli | then I tell them to constantly index it | 01:47 |
| crimsun | it's still duplicated work | 01:59 |
| crimsun | use one friggin' library type, and have all players access it | 01:59 |
| terli | I just use WMP for linux | 02:11 |
| terli | works just fine | 02:11 |
| johnflux | Can I make a suggestion for packages.ubuntu.org here? | 02:45 |
| terli | yes | 02:52 |
| terli | sure | 02:52 |
| terli | suggest it to me | 02:52 |
| terli | I'm certain someone somewhere will appreciate it somewhat | 02:53 |
| terli | not that it's ever going to be a package, mind you, if you don't join #ubuntu-motu and maintain it yourself AKA you do it | 02:53 |
| BHSPitLappy | crimsun, might I recommend using MPD | 03:10 |
| BHSPitLappy | One library and media core, and your choice of frontends to steer it | 03:10 |
| terli | BHSPitLappy: can I get an ETA on when the features discussed by that gnome turk behdad are going to be implemented in our stream? | 03:18 |
| BHSPitLappy | terli, I'm not any position of authority | 03:19 |
| maco | are there no ddebs for jaunty? | 03:36 |
| crimsun | BHSPitLappy: i've used mpd (and frontends) for years | 03:40 |
| BHSPitLappy | good | 03:40 |
| crimsun | 20:44 < crimsun> syncing rhythmbox, sonata/mpd, banshee, and songbird is a PITA | 03:41 |
| crimsun | note the "mpd" | 03:41 |
| terli | why use all these | 03:41 |
| terli | hmm? | 03:42 |
| crimsun | terli: my previous life as a core-dev wasn't constrained to "just use the one client i like". it's difficult to reproduce bugs that people report unless you, well, use the apps. | 03:42 |
| crimsun | maco: jaunty has ddebs. | 03:45 |
| crimsun | usual place and everything | 03:45 |
| crimsun | terli: also, i'm still awaiting further context [from you] regarding: 20:19 < terli> have the maintainers already locked down the package revisions? | 03:47 |
| terli | I mean ubuntu+1 wise | 03:55 |
| crimsun | terli: i don't know what you imply by "package revisions" | 03:55 |
| terli | I havn't seen any updates to the jaunty repo in a week or two | 03:55 |
| terli | well a lot of the stuff IN the repo was the same version as it was in intrepid | 03:56 |
| crimsun | terli: err, well, it has been a week full of holidays and such | 03:56 |
| JontheEchidna | there always is a freeze a few days before an alpha is released | 03:56 |
| JontheEchidna | and holidays of course :P | 03:56 |
| crimsun | but there have been quite a few updates in the past week | 03:56 |
| terli | is the jaunty repo really all that newer than the intrepid one, besides kernel updates? | 03:56 |
| maco | crimsun: im getting 404s on it...though apt-get update seems to be trying to load the list like 3 times from ddebs, but the last time it 404s...confused | 03:56 |
| crimsun | yes, considerably newer | 03:56 |
| crimsun | maco: on what url(s)? | 03:57 |
| terli | well , gnome says its 2.25, so I believe you on that, but a lot of package had the same revision number in synaptic | 03:57 |
| maco | crimsun: Err http://ddebs.ubuntu.com jaunty-updates/main Packages | 03:57 |
| maco | same for restricted, universe, and multiverse | 03:57 |
| crimsun | maco: that url won't even begin to make sense til post-jaunty | 03:57 |
| maco | same for proposed and security | 03:58 |
| crimsun | same for jaunty-proposed, jaunty-backports, and jaunty-security | 03:58 |
| maco | oh | 03:58 |
| maco | ok then | 03:58 |
| crimsun | terli: the archive pool for jaunty is already quite different to intrepid | 03:58 |
| crimsun | at least in terms of main/restricted. | 03:59 |
| terli | hmm | 03:59 |
| crimsun | in terms of universe and multiverse, not nearly as much, since the vast majority are synced from Debian testing/unstable, which is also in freeze (well, testing is). | 04:00 |
| terli | should gnome say 2.25.3? | 04:00 |
| crimsun | as of 2008-12-17, yes | 04:00 |
| maco | crimsun: glade-3 is broken. *pout* | 04:00 |
| crimsun | terli: if you don't know about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule, you should | 04:02 |
| maco | new kernel...time to reboot | 04:03 |
| crimsun | terli: from there, you'll note that 19 feb is as close to a "freeze for new packages" as one might see | 04:03 |
| crimsun | terli: of course, devs nearly always file exception requests (not to mention major desktop components, like GNOME and KDE, have standing exceptions) | 04:04 |
| * JontheEchidna tends to find that the amount of updates never decreases after feature freeze :P | 04:05 | |
| terli | I want to be in a state of CONSTANT change :-D | 04:05 |
| terli | I want access to a gnome repo that updates nightly | 04:06 |
| crimsun | well, i'm working on that for pulseaudio and userspace alsa-* | 04:06 |
| crimsun | the mozillateam does a great job [of building nightlies/weeklies] with the various xulrunner-based apps | 04:07 |
| terli | woudn't it be great if there was a version/variant of ubuntu that linked to 3000+ servers that nightly built all of the developer's apps | 04:10 |
| terli | I know you want to say GENTOO >< | 04:10 |
| crimsun | that is a use case for ppas | 04:11 |
| JontheEchidna | I believe human resources is the bottleneck for speed of updates | 04:12 |
| JontheEchidna | some things just work better with humans around than with blind automation, imo | 04:12 |
| terli | believe me when I say after I finish this degree, I'm going to learn gnome/glade and at least test code for the gnome ppls | 04:12 |
| terli | I wanna stop this gnome shell thing , but if I can't do that , at least I could ask and help ensure it has everything I'm used to included | 04:13 |
| atester | what packages do I need to install in order to get the binary nvidia drivers in Jaunty? | 05:01 |
| Arenlor | atester: a quick ubuntu packages search brought up: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia+binary&searchon=all&suite=jaunty§ion=all | 05:04 |
| atester | Arenlor: thank you | 05:05 |
| crimsun | depending on your hw, one of nvidia-*-kernel-source and its corresponding nvidia-glx-* | 05:08 |
| crimsun | keep in mind that none of the Nvidia drivers currently work correctly with jaunty's X.Org due to a server abi mismatch | 05:08 |
| crimsun | you'll need to use the previous 1.5 server abi | 05:09 |
| ionstorm | what is a good way to share files with windows users over the internet, something newb friendly, these ppl are stupid, wanna share movies n stuff | 05:10 |
| ionstorm | they wont figure out netbios | 05:10 |
| ionstorm | lol | 05:10 |
| Arenlor | samba maybe? | 05:11 |
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| Arenlor | ssh is the best | 05:11 |
| atester | crimsun: thanks, but how will I know which of the nvidia drivers use the previous 1.5 server abi? | 05:12 |
| Arenlor | I like putty on windows with openssh-server on linux, but not sure the other way around | 05:12 |
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| lubosz | hi | 15:19 |
| lubosz | whats the best way to install jaunty on a usb flash drive? | 15:20 |
| lubosz | UNetbootin just installs the installer | 15:20 |
| lubosz | the ubuntu boot disk creation tool needs a fat filesystem, and that sucks on benchmarks | 15:20 |
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| mikegriffin | crimsun: hey thanks for the advise the other day | 20:33 |
| mikegriffin | s/se/ce/ | 20:33 |
| mikegriffin | interestingly enough when going from gg to jj, dkms was not automagically installed, i went ahead and did so manually. now to attempt to get my tainted nvidia driver working with this new magic | 20:35 |
| mikegriffin | another oddity is that I was not presented the EULA for firefox yet have the branding installed | 20:45 |
| mikegriffin | chrome://ubufox/content/mozeula.html does not display anything | 20:45 |
| CarlFK | dget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/python-poppler/python-poppler_0.8.1-1.dsc | 21:14 |
| CarlFK | tar xvf python-poppler_0.8.1.orig.tar.gz makes pypoppler-0.8.1/ but python-poppler_0.8.1-1.diff.gz makes python-poppler-0.8.1 | 21:14 |
| CarlFK | how can that happen? | 21:15 |
| CarlFK | whoops, this isn't motu... | 21:15 |
| Skiessi | !info bristol | 22:00 |
| ubottu | bristol (source: bristol): vintage synthesizer emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-13ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 336 kB, installed size 4004 kB | 22:00 |
| Killeroid | !ppc | 22:23 |
| ubottu | PowerPC. Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ | 22:23 |
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