[00:06] <savvas> if the maintainer of a package is the ubuntu desktop team, do I subscribe the main sponsors or the universe sponsors group when I provide a debdiff/fix?
[00:07] <savvas> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/epiphany-browser/+bug/188468
[00:25] <Hobbsee> !info epiphany-browser
[00:25] <Hobbsee> savvas: it's in main, so main sponsors
[00:27] <savvas> ah I see, thanks Hobbsee :)
[00:28] <savvas> may you have a wonderful helping-us-out year :P
[00:40] <Hobbsee> :)
[02:26] <direw0lf> Please set bug 312674 to "wishlist." Thanks!
[02:38] <blueyed> direw0lf: done.
[02:39] <direw0lf> Thx
[03:05] <direw0lf> question: Should a feature request for an upstream application (in this case, a gnome applet) be forwarded to the upstream bug tracker, or placed on our own wishlist?
[03:05] <maco> direw0lf: yeah, forward it
[03:07] <direw0lf> thx
[03:12] <tcole> generally we try to upstream stuff when it is reasonable to do so
[03:13] <direw0lf> I was looking at the gnome bugtracker and they don't seem to have a category for enhancements
[03:15] <direw0lf> nm...found it.
[03:15] <direw0lf> I think it is time for a drink. :)
[07:55] <jarlath> Can someone advise me what to add to this report so it's status can be moved on from Incomplete? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/306692
[07:55] <jarlath> The effect of this bug is a serious problem for me that effects all the users in our business and I'm sure is a problem for others who rely on Evolution for calendaring also.
[07:57] <Hobbsee> jarlath: that looks like enough to me.
[07:57]  * Hobbsee bumps it back to new
[08:12] <jarlath> Thanks Hobbsee! :)
[08:12] <Hobbsee> :)
[13:45] <fritz> hi, i'm trying to figure out if and how i should file a bug report with regards to hdaps not working on a particular thinkpad. Should this be filed directly with the kernel bug list?
[17:46] <charlie-tca> I added a page to /Bugs/Upstream for Xfce Bugzilla this morning. I will be adding AbiWord in a few days.
[19:13] <frist44> I signed up for the bugsquad on launchpad and just wondering how to get start
[19:13] <frist44> ed
[19:14] <jmarsden> frist44: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/GettingInvolved
[19:15] <jmarsden> frist44: also /join #ubuntu-bugs
[19:15] <frist44> the mailing list?
[19:17] <jmarsden> My bad... I'm in too any conversations... mailing is at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugsquad
[19:18] <frist44> yeah i signed up for that too
[19:18] <frist44> no prob
[20:25] <MrKanister> I was about to make a small debdiff to fix a typo in "ubuntu-docs". Now I am confused because in the changelog there is no <version>-ubuntu1. the last versions are just  8.10.2, 8.10.1, 8.09.2, 8.09.1, etc. So what version shall I give the fixed package?
[20:26] <hggdh> MrKanister, what version did you base the diff on?
[20:27] <MrKanister> on the latest in Jaunty (8.10.2)
[20:27] <hggdh> then base it on 8.10.2. It should be OK
[20:28] <MrKanister> so I just add a 0-ubuntu1 ? (as dch -i suggests)
[20:29] <MrKanister> i mean -0ubuntu1
[20:29] <hggdh> yes, for example. Did you propose the patch upstream?
[20:29] <MrKanister> not yet
[20:30] <hggdh> huh, my bad, ubuntu-docs is ours...
[20:30] <MrKanister> thats the problem :)
[20:31] <hggdh> then you can just send in the diff; the maintainer can then decide on which version it will build (it will probably be 8.10.3, or something like it)
[20:32] <hggdh> 0ubuntu1 (and similar is for our changes to upstream
[20:33] <MrKanister> hggdh: Thanks. A diff was already there (bug #285484). I thought making a debdiff could help having less work, but seems I should take another bug
[20:35] <hggdh> is your diff about the same issue?
[20:36] <MrKanister> Yes. I was looking for some low hanging fruit. And fixing typos in packages seemed a good start.
[20:37] <MrKanister> I made a small debdiff for another package and it got uploaded to jaunty within hours :)
[20:39] <hggdh> then you have two options: (1) if you are changing part of the other diff, then add an updated diff to the bug; (2) if you are dealing with a different aspect, add a new diff
[20:42] <MrKanister> I didn't want to change something because the patch works fine. I just wanted to make a debdiff that can directly be applied to the latest package and probably uploaded to Jaunty. The problem is the versioning
[20:43] <hggdh> ah, OK
[20:43] <hggdh> you can then make it for 8.10.3, and propose
[20:44] <MrKanister> Ok, thanks a lot. That was what I needed :)
[21:57] <Lupine> This should be a WishList: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/313173
[22:00] <crimsun> Lupine: done
[22:08] <Lupine> anybody have a default/stock response (or common practice) of asking a bug reporter to update to latest stable Ubuntu and try the issue again?
[22:09] <Lupine> or is the practice discouraged, and we should really try to duplicate their issue on let's say a VirtualBox install of older Ubuntu versions?
[22:10] <hggdh> Lupine, if the issue was on a quite old release, then yes, we might ask to try on an up-to-date
[22:10] <hggdh> use, for example, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Old%20untouched%20bugs
[22:11] <Lupine> even if it's not "that" old...8.04 for example?
[22:11] <hggdh> hum. Can you reproduce it?
[22:11] <Lupine> nope
[22:12] <Lupine> and that link of responses is GREAT btw, thanks!  I've been looking for something just like this
[22:12] <hggdh> what is the bug?
[22:12] <Lupine> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/312931
[22:23] <crimsun> Lupine: i normally ask them to reproduce on a live cd of jaunty
[22:23] <hggdh> hum. Opened it, and got mesself a sigsegv...
[22:24] <Lupine> crimsun, thx I'll make a note of that, and keep that in mind
[22:24] <hggdh> and it would be good to have a stacktrace also
[22:24] <Lupine> hggdh, that's weird, and you are running 8.10?
[22:26] <hggdh> I am running Jaunty
[22:26] <hggdh> but I do not know what caused the segv, I just opened it and went to arrière-plan
[22:27] <hggdh> darn! apport is broken!
[22:29] <hggdh> OK, I am retracing it locally.
[22:30] <Lupine> what exactly is the PNG -> JPG file he/you are using that causes it to crash?
[22:30] <Lupine> guess that's why I can't dup it
[22:31] <hggdh> heh... none at all...  literally
[22:31] <Lupine> so weird
[22:31] <hggdh> I had the 3 that come standard
[22:32] <Lupine> thx for the link though, will help out for future bugs
[22:32] <hggdh> OK. the one I was using was a single-colour black
[22:33] <hggdh> but it is shown as "no image" (aucune papier peint)
[22:54] <hggdh> Lupine, I tried with a bad jpeg, and did not get an error
[22:55] <Lupine> sounds like I should just ask the reporter to try and dup it with an up to date LIVE CD
[23:16] <xubuntusdi> hi