| RainCT | crimsun: a wrapper arround what? | 00:00 |
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| RainCT | (s/rr/r) | 00:01 |
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| crimsun | RainCT: around pbuilder | 01:40 |
| crimsun | d'oh | 01:40 |
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| apachelogger | jdong: hey. can you think of a reason we wouldn't want to have protocol encryption in ktorrent active by default? | 07:35 |
| lidaobing | help review ibus-table: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=ibus-table, thanks | 08:33 |
| hanska | hello * | 08:48 |
| iulian | Hey hanska. | 08:56 |
| hanska | hi iulian | 09:23 |
| hanska | sebner: \o | 09:39 |
| sebner | hanska: ahoi | 09:39 |
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| slytherin | StevenK: around? need to sync jbossas4. :-D | 11:44 |
| StevenK | slytherin: And have you filed a bug? :-) | 11:45 |
| slytherin | StevenK: yes. bug 312778 | 11:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 312778 in jbossas4 "Please sync jbossas4 4.2.3.GA-1 (multiverse) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/312778 | 11:46 |
| Laney | Yay! The silly crash in glom has been fixed | 13:02 |
| Laney | Today is The Day | 13:02 |
| * directhex declares openjdk to be doom | 13:12 | |
| jpds | Adri2000: Crazy mass bug reporting on requestsync - fixed. | 13:23 |
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| Laney | jpds: My hero! | 13:25 |
| jpds | (I think - putting sleep()s appears to fix it). | 13:26 |
| Laney | haha | 13:26 |
| Laney | s/fix/bodged around/ :P | 13:26 |
| directhex | bodger the badger? | 13:31 |
| * Laney eats some mashed potato | 13:33 | |
| directhex | openjdk appears to be a twisty mess when it comes to licensing | 13:35 |
| slytherin | directhex: why? | 13:39 |
| Adri2000 | jpds: great. I hope it will workaround the problem for now, but if LP decides to become 1 or 2 seconds slower, it will fail again :/ afaiu python-launchpad-bugs uses only http while python-launchpadlib uses the new LP api; so shouldn't using the latter fix this kind of problem? | 13:41 |
| directhex | slytherin, horrible things like "public domain" with gpl2 boilerplate, etc | 13:42 |
| * RainCT notes that pbuilder-dist.new now supports cowbuilder | 13:43 | |
| slytherin | directhex: is that bad thing really? | 13:47 |
| isle85 | Hi, is there a special category for a genealogy program. I've just built my first package, and would like it to appear in Applications - Genealogy. I didn't see such category. Is it possible to the debian/myappli.desktop to write : Categories=Application;Genealogy ? | 13:47 |
| slytherin | isle85: how about science? But I am not sure if that has separate menu. | 13:49 |
| directhex | a few licensing glitches here & there, too | 13:49 |
| maxb | isle85: http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/ defines the categories | 13:50 |
| directhex | e.g. some non-sun files under GPL2 without classpath exception, which sun then relicense with classpath exception | 13:50 |
| isle85 | slytherin: yeap, but "science" doesn't see the appropriate place. | 13:50 |
| directhex | isle85, "magic"! | 13:50 |
| isle85 | directhex: :-) | 13:50 |
| directhex | slytherin, correct me if i'm wrong, but sun can't put a classpath exception on a file they don't hold the copyright to, and which was published under gpl2 with no exception, can they? | 13:52 |
| hanska | directhex: you here? :) | 13:53 |
| slytherin | directhex: I believe you are right | 13:53 |
| directhex | hanska, always. why are YOU here, you like your debian WITHOUT bugs! | 13:53 |
| hanska | directhex: eheh :P | 13:53 |
| directhex | slytherin, frankly i don't care, i just want a well-formed debian/copyright. but i stand by my "openjdk appears to be a twisty mess when it comes to licensing" ;) | 13:54 |
| jpds | Adri2000: Possibly, but I haven't done any work on lplib. | 14:10 |
| shodges | hello all, I need a bit of help uploading to my PPA for the first time... | 14:11 |
| shodges | I followed the instructions given here: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA, using the dput tool | 14:12 |
| shodges | The tool seemed to finish successfully, but I'm not seeing anything in the PPA web UI, and I haven't received any email either | 14:13 |
| shodges | This is the output of my dput operation: http://paste.ubuntu.com/98311/ | 14:14 |
| Adri2000 | shodges: PPA is a launchpad thing, so #launchpad is more appropriate for your question | 14:14 |
| shodges | ok thanks Adri2000 | 14:14 |
| jpds | RainCT: Damn, I just uploaded u-d-t and I just noticed your push. | 14:21 |
| * jpds fixes. | 14:22 | |
| RainCT | jpds: pbuilder-dist.new isn't installed anyway | 14:23 |
| thekorn | jpds, re this requestsync bug, I don't think time.sleep() fixes in requestsync fixes the problem, but forcing using the stable server instead of edge seems to be a good idea | 14:23 |
| jpds | RainCT: I meant the changelog. | 14:24 |
| jpds | thekorn: It only files one bug for me now. | 14:24 |
| thekorn | jpds, ok, but my feeling is that launchpad is a bit faster today, which might also solve this issue | 14:26 |
| jpds | thekorn: If the problem comes back, someone can reopen the bug. | 14:27 |
| thekorn | jpds, but again, you should think about switching to python-launchpadlib ;) | 14:27 |
| jpds | thekorn: That is planned ;-) | 14:27 |
| thekorn | jpds, super, if noone takes it I can have a look at it over the weekend | 14:28 |
| thekorn | should not be that hard | 14:29 |
| jpds | thekorn: There is an experimental branch for it on my code page, but it's month's old. | 14:31 |
| Alexia_Death | anybody up for helping out a newbie in debian packaging? | 14:33 |
| jpds | months* | 14:33 |
| thekorn | jpds, ok, cool, feel free to ping me when you need some help with launchpadlib | 14:34 |
| Alexia_Death | I'm remaking the Xorg core packages with dbus support. that part is easy, rules needs an extra build flag. But I also need to install the dbus policy rules file and I dont have clue where that should go or how. | 14:35 |
| Alexia_Death | so any tips welcome:) | 14:35 |
| incorrect | backporting libtool from intrepid to hardy is a.) a bad idea, b.) a good idea, c.) I am on drugs? | 14:39 |
| jpds | thekorn: Would you happen to know a lplib function which will tell me if a person is a member of a team? | 14:48 |
| thekorn | jpds, no, I don't think there is an API method for this, but how about checking if a person is in yourteam.members? | 14:57 |
| thekorn | jpds, hmm, does not seem to work, http://paste.ubuntu.com/98333/ loks like a bug (missing feature) in launchpadlib to me | 15:01 |
| jpds | thekorn: I'll that it here. | 15:02 |
| jpds | "TypeError: argument of type 'Entry' is not iterable" - hmm. | 15:08 |
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| thekorn | jpds, created bug 313233 in launchpadlib | 15:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 313233 in launchpadlib "add __contains__ to collections" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/313233 | 15:12 |
| jpds | thekorn: Oh, thanks. | 15:13 |
| Laney | excuse me for cross-posting from debian-mentors, but... | 15:39 |
| Laney | What's the correct way to depend on ${source:Upstream-Version}? "=" obviously doesn't work | 15:39 |
| Laney | sebner: *cough* | 16:05 |
| thekorn | jpds, https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ngircd/+bug/309872 << first sync request created using requestsync and launchpadlib ;) | 16:16 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 309872 in ubuntu-tweak "Adding 2nd User after installing Ubuntu-tweak removes all Desktop menus & icons" [Undecided,New] | 16:16 |
| slytherin | StevenK: thanks for jbossas4 sync. Do you time to any other syncs? | 16:17 |
| incorrect | how long does it take to compile libtool | 16:33 |
| incorrect | days? weeks? months? | 16:33 |
| geser | do you mean the pure build time or the time for adding to the build queue to the result? | 16:34 |
| incorrect | oh nevermind it just died | 16:34 |
| slytherin | geser: just FYI ... jboss is finally built. :-) | 16:34 |
| incorrect | i am trying to backport libtool | 16:34 |
| geser | incorrect: the buildds take between 20 min and 1 h 40 min (depending on the arch) | 16:35 |
| incorrect | thanks geser | 16:35 |
| geser | slytherin: nice job. Did it include some patching or just syncing? | 16:36 |
| incorrect | hopefully i can get openldap 2.4.11 backported to hardy | 16:36 |
| slytherin | geser: this time it was just sync | 16:37 |
| incorrect | i don't know if anyone feels this way, but i would like to run an LTS version and get some of the latest server apps, such as openldap, apache samba | 16:38 |
| incorrect | i wonder how many support packages i will have to backport to get libtool to compile | 16:45 |
| Laney | incorrect: That kind of runs counter to the LTSness doesn't it? | 16:48 |
| incorrect | Laney, yes and no | 16:48 |
| incorrect | Laney, i want the base for stable | 16:48 |
| incorrect | bit like freebsd, you get the core stable, then apps are separated out | 16:49 |
| incorrect | if i deploy a large server farm, I want all the core update goodness for 5 years, but i also want to get some bang up to date services | 16:50 |
| incorrect | for example openldap 2.4.9 still has bugs in its multimaster replication, so i would want to upgrade this | 16:51 |
| rjune | incorrect, so you'll have to run your own update server | 17:20 |
| incorrect | rjune, fine by me if, choice of not working | 17:21 |
| incorrect | or having to do my own updates | 17:21 |
| rjune | incorrect, basically, you start with LTS, then set up your own repository and rebuild anything you want and insert into that repo | 17:21 |
| rjune | it's not what you want, but it's the only way to get that same effect. | 17:22 |
| incorrect | rjune, i know that, i was just suggesting that it would be nice if.. | 17:22 |
| rjune | Ahh. | 17:22 |
| incorrect | i just wondered if others felt like me | 17:22 |
| rjune | I'm sure you can find somebody willing to do it on a contract basis | 17:22 |
| incorrect | why do i need to pay someone to do it? | 17:23 |
| incorrect | i am perfectly able to backport myself | 17:23 |
| rjune | you could always do it yourself | 17:23 |
| incorrect | years of gentoo | 17:23 |
| rjune | I'm so sorry. | 17:23 |
| incorrect | lol | 17:23 |
| rjune | still, you get the idea. | 17:23 |
| incorrect | i've been doing this for ages, i just seem to be the only one who doesn't want to upgrade their server farm every 6 months when all they want is a couple of features | 17:24 |
| rjune | most people find the pain of update less than the pain of rebuild | 17:25 |
| rjune | if you start a repo doing backports, then make it public, you may get some interest. | 17:25 |
| incorrect | depends if the update introduces a problem on your production systems | 17:25 |
| rjune | then again, you may not. | 17:25 |
| incorrect | if you only update one package, this negates the problem | 17:25 |
| rjune | well, it minimizes it. | 17:25 |
| incorrect | you can simply role back you one package | 17:26 |
| incorrect | harder to role back the entire os | 17:26 |
| rjune | true dat | 17:28 |
| incorrect | well i am off for beer | 17:30 |
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| CarlFK | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-poppler comes from https://edge.launchpad.net/poppler-python | 18:53 |
| CarlFK | I reported a bug and submitted a patch - how do I get that into ibex? | 18:54 |
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| coppro | REVU day! http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=metakit | 20:18 |
| luckyone | hello MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE! | 21:01 |
| luckyone | I have two quick questions, then I will leave you alone | 21:01 |
| luckyone | 1) does the ati proprietary driver make it into the repos with every monthly release? | 21:02 |
| luckyone | 2) when will ekiga 3.0 be available in the repos? | 21:02 |
| superm1 | hi luckyone: at least regarding the ati driver, it's put into the development release on a regular basis. you'll get equivalent packages (starting with intrepid and later) if you run --buildpkg Ubuntu on their .run file | 21:03 |
| crimsun | 1) depends if someone has done the work for it and whether Feature Freeze has passed | 21:03 |
| crimsun | 2) ekiga 3.0.1 has already been merged into jaunty | 21:04 |
| luckyone | crimsun: will it make it into Intrepid? | 21:04 |
| superm1 | so in the event that you are running intrepid and say want the 8-12 release, you can grab their installer and run it with that flag i just said. it's not likely that it will be backported to intrepid though | 21:04 |
| luckyone | I really should do my part and pick a package to maintain | 21:04 |
| coppro | :( REVU is just as hard to get on REVU days as otherwise | 21:04 |
| crimsun | it will not make it into intrepid period. intrepid is a frozen and released version. | 21:04 |
| luckyone | ahhh | 21:05 |
| coppro | it might get backported | 21:05 |
| crimsun | there is some low probability that it will make it into intrepid-backports, but that's a fairly low one. | 21:05 |
| luckyone | yeah, that is what I mean, will it be backported | 21:05 |
| nhandler | coppro: Don't forget, REVU day is still going on. It goes on until it is Saturday in all time zones | 21:05 |
| crimsun | luckyone: if you manage all the prerequisite work for it to be backported, there will be a slightly higher probability | 21:06 |
| coppro | yes, exactly | 21:06 |
| luckyone | so, Jaunty will have ati 8.12? | 21:06 |
| superm1 | luckyone, jaunty already does have it | 21:06 |
| superm1 | luckyone, as i said the development release gets them on a more regular basis | 21:07 |
| luckyone | superm1: but will that be the last driver version taken? | 21:07 |
| superm1 | luckyone, that depends on what features are in the newer version and if it's a worthwhile upgrade to put into jaunty | 21:07 |
| luckyone | gotcha | 21:07 |
| superm1 | luckyone, at this point i know there are some problems with 8-12 in jaunty, so likely a newer drop will be needed | 21:07 |
| luckyone | I am crossing my fingers they are going to release the GPU offloading for video playback of additional codecs like H.264, etc | 21:08 |
| luckyone | not just mpeg-2 | 21:08 |
| coppro | theora pls | 21:09 |
| luckyone | x.264 :x | 21:09 |
| luckyone | is there ever a 'Masters in training' course? | 21:13 |
| luckyone | I feel like I should help out | 21:13 |
| luckyone | I want to be confident that my contribution would actually help though (that my packages are 1, needed, 2 built correctly...) | 21:14 |
| coppro | put them on revu | 21:14 |
| coppro | needed isn't as important as built correctly | 21:14 |
| luckyone | hehe | 21:14 |
| coppro | (check for a needs-packaging bug first) | 21:15 |
| CarlFK | I am trying to build a PPA from a package that I have a patch for. but the current package is confusing: dget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/python-poppler/python-poppler_0.8.1-1.dsc | 21:16 |
| CarlFK | tar xvf python-poppler_0.8.1.orig.tar.gz makes pypoppler-0.8.1/ but python-poppler_0.8.1-1.diff.gz makes python-poppler-0.8.1 | 21:16 |
| CarlFK | jaunty is the first place this package apears. should I file a bug ? | 21:17 |
| Laney | no | 21:17 |
| Laney | just use patch -p1 | 21:18 |
| Laney | or use dget -x/dpkg-source -x | 21:18 |
| crimsun | it's not worth a bug. the diff.gz is not required to retain the upstream's root-extracted directory name. | 21:18 |
| CarlFK | thaks | 21:20 |
| CarlFK | er.. thanks. dget -x isn't extracting... is is because: gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found Validation FAILED!! | 21:21 |
| Laney | dget -xu then | 21:21 |
| Laney | (or get the key) | 21:21 |
| CarlFK | thanks again | 21:24 |
| Laney | Is it a good idea to split translations and manuals (omf format) out into an arch-indep package? lintian is whining | 22:41 |
| Laney | Or just the manual? | 22:42 |
| Laney | I think I'll just split the manual out for now | 22:56 |
| Laney | sebner: you agree? | 22:56 |
| Laney | murrayc_: Hey! glom is almost ready to go (again :) | 23:27 |
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| murrayc_ | Laney: Thanks. I notice that the examples/templates still aren't found, but maybe I will figure out why, | 23:53 |
| Laney | murrayc_: It's alright, I've got it | 23:53 |
| murrayc_ | Oh, cool. | 23:53 |
| murrayc_ | Laney: What was the problem? | 23:53 |
| Laney | I have to override the default directory | 23:53 |
| murrayc_ | How? | 23:53 |
| Laney | oh no, I don't think I do actually | 23:53 |
| Laney | there was a silly rule left over in the rules file which deleted them for some reason | 23:54 |
| Laney | I killed that and now they come up | 23:54 |
| murrayc_ | Oh, great. | 23:54 |
| murrayc_ | Thanks. | 23:54 |
| Laney | (small thing that lintian picked up: You don't need encoding in the desktop file any more, they apparently have to be UTF-8 now) | 23:54 |
| Laney | just trying to make a glom-doc package, then if that works I'll upload the diff for real | 23:56 |
| Laney | murrayc_: Oh, do you know if there's a way to not build the examples with goocanvasmm? I tried --disable-examples but it's no go | 23:57 |
| murrayc_ | Laney: I'd accept a patch to add that option, but I generally don't bother with it myself. | 23:59 |
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