[00:09] <jussi01> hehe, anyone see this? http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/01/01/zune.player.failures/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
[00:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Yep.. too funny
[02:04] <elkbuntu> thank goodness myrtti is still on holiday. asus-tek is on fire today
[02:46] <nickrud> need an op in -offtopic
[02:51] <jussi01> nickrud: sorted?
[02:51] <nickrud> seems to be, the topic drifted away 
[02:51] <jussi01> ok
[02:51] <jussi01> Im off to bed.. almost 5am
[02:52] <nickrud> I assume no work tomorrow
[02:52] <jussi01> you assume wrong.
[02:52] <nickrud> then you're a better person than me. I need my 6.
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Im old I need 8 or 10
[02:52] <nickrud> sleep well, see you later.
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[02:53] <jussi01> thank God I can work anytime I want (I work from home) :D
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> me too
[02:53] <jussi01> nini
[02:53] <nickrud> not me, it's a 20 minute walk. Better than working at home imho
 where is the pok gai bazhang
[08:52] <bazhang> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Pok+Gai
[08:52] <Flannel> Thanks
[08:52] <Flannel> I was wondering ;)
[08:53] <bazhang> pretty nasty fellow
[08:53] <bazhang> when called out on -ot in #ubuntu he says some unpleasant things to me in ##linux
 where is the pok gai bazhang
[08:54] <kelvin911> got ban by bazhang for no reason
[08:54] <bazhang> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Pok+Gai
[08:54] <bazhang> kelvin911, you were asked to stop warez talk and called for being offtopic, then responded thusly
[08:54] <tritium> kelvin911: you have an interesting definition of "no reason"
[08:55] <kelvin911> bazhang is racist
[08:55] <bazhang> kelvin911, hardly 'no reason'
[08:55] <bazhang> wha?
[08:55] <Flannel> you're racist against trolls
[08:55] <Flannel> sheesh
[08:55] <tritium> unbelievable
[08:55] <Flannel> just because someone lives under a bridge doesn't make them a bad person!
[08:55] <bazhang> yep apparently so
[08:55] <Flannel> you're so hurtful
[08:55]  * Flannel storms off.
[08:55] <bazhang> haha
[09:43] <Flannel> Hi pop79, how can we help you?
[09:43] <bazhang> pop79, how may we help you
[09:43] <bazhang> oops
[09:43] <pop79> iwant to say sorry bazhang
[09:43] <bazhang> pop79, you were under the name mr_fat previously, correct?
[09:43] <pop79> yes
[09:44] <pop79> i was speeking to an operator yesterday
[09:44] <bazhang> pop79, and you were abusing the bot in #ubuntu-offtopic and asked to stop?
[09:44] <pop79> yes
[09:44] <bazhang> pop79, then you went into #ubuntu and asked how to ban people?
[09:44] <pop79> yes, im sorry
[09:44] <bazhang> pop79, and subsequently ban evaded with the name helpmaster?
[09:45] <pop79> i know, but it was weird
[09:45] <pop79> i just
[09:45] <pop79> went into
[09:45] <pop79> windows
[09:45] <pop79> and
[09:45] <pop79> installed
[09:45] <pop79> chatzilla
[09:45] <pop79> and
[09:45] <pop79> it
[09:45] <pop79> got
[09:45] <pop79> me
[09:45] <pop79> in
[09:45] <pop79> .
[09:45] <bazhang> pop79, when you are banned you dont try to get around it; that is called ban-evasion
[09:45] <pop79> i know, but i was going to create my own channel
[09:46] <pop79> i was just looking to see if my ban was up as well
[09:46] <Flannel> pop79: Your current behavior in this channel certainly isn't helpful either.
[09:46] <bazhang> pop79, it wasnt
[09:46] <pop79> well can you at least tell me when my ban is up?
[09:47] <bazhang> pop79, when you have understood the code of conduct and guidelines for irc and #ubuntu channels
[09:47] <pop79> i know them. look at a log for yesterday in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:48] <bazhang> pop79, and you dont seem to have a clear idea about those now, as you ignored people in #ubuntu-offtopic when abusing the bot in there
[09:48] <pop79> im very sorry, but when my ban is up, i promise it wont be me who gets banned again, because ill be good
[09:49] <pop79> i needed help with ubuntu, but since you banned me, i cant get it
[09:49] <bazhang> pop79, this is not about apologizing to any one person; you were being disruptive in #ubuntu channels, and failing to listen to others asking you to stop
[09:49] <pop79> well i had a temper.
[09:50] <pop79> anyway that was days ago
[09:50] <bazhang> pop79, you should thought about your needing help before you were so disruptive and ban-evaded.
[09:51] <pop79> well, i didnt mean to ban-evade
[09:51] <pop79> and for your information, i dont know how to change my ip address
[09:52] <bazhang> pop79, but if you know you are still banned (nothing has been done to lift it), then entering the channel under a different nick and IP address is evasion
[09:52] <pop79> if you give me one more chance, i promise from the bottom of my heart, i will listen and be good
[09:53] <pop79> you will never have to ban me again
[09:53] <bazhang> !coc | pop79 please read this
[09:53] <bazhang> !guidelines | pop79 and this
[09:54] <pop79> i just reading them now
[09:56] <pop79> thank you, i read them
[09:56] <bazhang> pop79, you may rejoin, but please 
[09:56] <bazhang> argh
[09:57] <bazhang> oh nice; kelvin911 is joining a random channel I'm in and saying something very nasty 
[09:58] <pop79> sorry there
[09:58] <pop79> bazhang?
[09:59] <bazhang> pop79, you are unbanned; please keep in mind the guidelines and code of conduct both in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic , and all #ubuntu channels
[09:59] <pop79> omg! thank you so much!
[09:59] <pop79> you are a true friend
[09:59] <Flannel> bazhang: Is GetOnTop's recent doohickey in #u normal or inappropriate?
[10:00] <pop79> hey bazhang! can i help you with anything here?
[10:00] <bazhang> pop79, please dont idle here
[10:00] <pop79> ok
[10:00] <bazhang> Flannel, not so far; he just said does russian work?
[10:01] <bazhang> now joined -ru
[10:01] <Flannel> Ah.  Looked less like russian than usual
[11:04]  * jussi01 prods ikonia
[11:17] <Gary> know about this?  onjoin spam - 11:17 -Suferr1ngLinUX(n=www@122.163.75.165)- Hi Gary , Welcome to Ubuntu Official Support help channel, Please read the topic .. Do not Swear, be  friendly and nice to all UBUNTU Lovers
[11:18] <ikonia> done him
[11:18] <ikonia> just disabling his scripts
[11:18] <ikonia> he's in pm
[11:18] <Gary> thanks
[11:19] <ikonia> seems a nice guy
[11:19] <ikonia> gary can you re-test it, I joined with an alt nick and didn't get it
[11:19] <ikonia> don't know how to trigger it
[11:19] <Gary> no pm
[11:19] <ikonia> I didn't get a pm
[11:20] <ikonia> so it didn't trigger when I joined (he had not disabled then)
[11:20] <ikonia> don't know how to test it
[11:20] <Gary> it was a notice, and it is now not noticing
[11:20] <Gary> a /cycle caused him to notice me, now it did not
[11:21] <ikonia> mega
[11:21] <ikonia> so he did to it
[11:21] <ikonia> thanks
[11:23] <Gary> don't make me cycle #Ubuntu again, it hurts :'(
[11:25] <Flannel> I got nothing
[11:25] <Flannel> and I just got a query from eth01 saying "its stopped, you can stop checking"
[11:26] <Gary> lol
[11:26] <Gary> yeah, he reported it to me!
[11:26]  * Gary cries
[11:48]  * jussi01 hi-fives ikonia
[12:50]  * jussi01 prods ikonia some more
[13:05] <elkbuntu> is there any chance it is a full moon tonight?
[13:06] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: hmm, my hands are not getting hairy yet
[13:07] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, i have cross-network troll in PM, a cracker wannabe in a geek depression channel, and mcdonalds and kfc trolls in a cooking channel.
[13:07] <Tm_T> <3
[13:08] <jussi01> hahah
[13:09] <elkbuntu> jussi01, well, 'bluehackers' is slightly deceiving to the uneducated eye...
[13:14] <Gary> elkbuntu: arghh, I really want a KFC now
[13:14] <jussi01> shush about kfc! I want it also and there is none in this country!!
[13:14] <elkbuntu> Gary, did i ever tell you the true story about the mayo that was not mayo in a kfc burger
[13:19] <Gary> elkbuntu: bleah
[13:19] <elkbuntu> it was a pustule.
[13:20] <elkbuntu> still want that kfc?
[13:20] <Gary> I hate you
[13:26] <jussi01> elkbuntu: every fastfood chain has a story like that... so meh
[13:27] <elkbuntu> jussi01, i only needed to kill his desire at this moment
[13:27] <elkbuntu> the thought of munching a pus ball is relatively good at that on most people.
[13:27] <Gary> I sorted it with chocolate
[13:29] <jussi01> mmm... 64bit flash... it works fullscreen... :D
[13:29] <Flannel> jussi01: Does your screen support 64bit color yet?
[13:29] <jussi01> Flannel: err, what?
[13:30] <Flannel> What?  You have a 64bit system with a 32bit monitor?
[13:30] <Flannel> you're missing out!
[13:31]  * jussi01 takes a bite of Flannel
[14:26]  * genii puts on a pot of coffee
[15:19]  * genii hands Jack_Sparrow a coffee
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Ah...
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> I have a coffee mug to send you ... PM me an email address so we can figure out how to get it to you
[15:22] <genii> Cool
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> I'll try and grab a pic of them later for you
[15:29] <genii> Coffee paraphernalia is always welcome :)
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> genii, I have a prob...
[15:52] <genii> Jack_Sparrow: ?
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> ok found it..  /mode #ubuntu +b *!*@ 78.84.113.236                there was a space that got me twice
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> tried to ban everyone
[15:53] <genii> Hehe
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> one more time
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Ouch, now I really need some coffee
[15:56]  * genii pours Jack_Sparrow an extra-caffeinated large mug of coffee
[15:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Forget that, gimme an IV
[15:57] <genii> :)
[16:02] <genii> Jack_Sparrow: I like the irony there of !piracy coming from a nick like yours...
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> YEa.. I know
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> I acutally did some work on the real black pearl for the movie
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> They called me in, when it was in San Diego for some refitting for the movie
[16:05] <nbeebo__> how long will the average ban last on one of ubuntu's channels? permanent or.. ?
[16:05] <Jack_Sparrow> @login
[16:05] <Jack_Sparrow> @btlogin
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> nbeebo__, depends on the offense, are you ban evading here today
[16:06] <nbeebo__> Jack_Sparrow, hmm dont understand... but no it wasnt very offensive, but ive done mildly offensive before without getting banned so..
[16:08] <Jack_Sparrow> nbeebo__, I see seven bans by 3 different ops..
[16:08] <nbeebo__> wow didnt know that i guess i have bad memory then..
[16:08] <nbeebo__> didnt try anything know admins can see that.. lol
[16:08] <Jack_Sparrow> We  keep excellent logs
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> It seems you are not banned in ubuntu atm, but I would not expect offtopic to let you back any time soon
[16:11] <nbeebo__> as in 1 month one week one year never?
[16:12] <Jack_Sparrow> I cant speak for them..   but when 4 different ops have banned you.. there had to be a reason
[16:12] <Jack_Sparrow> the last by tonyyarusso so you would need to speak with him
[16:13] <genii> nbeebo__: There's no set time period on bans. Usually you need to return here and speak to the particular op which has banned you from a specific channel
[16:14] <nbeebo__> alright alright
[16:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !idle
[16:19] <pop79> Bazhang? Sorry if im interupting you, but you are a true friend
[16:19] <nbeebo__> yeah yeah
[16:20] <pop79> how do i become an operator?
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> By leadership and helpfulness in the channel, never by asking
[16:21] <Daviey> By showing you a helpful member of the irc community, then get picked
[16:21] <Daviey> are*
[16:21] <pop79> thank you
[16:27] <genii> grestr in #u\
[16:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Zewalrus, You were banned in ubuntu.. you changed your nick now you claim it wasnt you being disruptive
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Zewalrus,  05 2008 03:27:38 
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Zewalrus, the nick was Huge Walrus
[16:35] <Jack_Sparrow> genii, you here?
[16:35] <Zewalrus> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqOKvonLrH8
[16:35] <Zewalrus> The Beatles I am the Walrus
[16:36] <genii> Jack_Sparrow: Yup
[16:36] <Zewalrus> Walrus is also an animal ...
[16:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Flannel, Are you awake yet
[16:47] <pop79> would i be able to help anybody here?
[16:47] <pop79> with there work
[16:48] <Jack_Sparrow> pop79, In channel.. yes, in here, no, there are many ways to help support ubuntu
[16:48] <Zewalrus> Jack_Sparrow,  Jack_Sparrow met un ban sur *!*@bas7-montreal02-1096626380.dsl.bell.ca  #ubuntu
[16:49] <Tm_T> Zewalrus: hi how can we help you?
[16:49] <Zewalrus> Jack_Sparrow,  I cant send in the #ubuntu canal
[16:49] <Jack_Sparrow> I am reviewing the logs, I dont believe you are not the same person banned for abuse
[16:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Tm_T,  huge_walrus           same as zewalrus  same ip
[16:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Banned on dec 5 and again on Dec 29 2008 00:33:40  
[16:52] <Zewalrus> Bell.ca is on Dynamic Ip 
[16:52] <Zewalrus> I can reboot my modem if thats all i need to do
[16:53] <Tm_T> please don't
[16:53] <Zewalrus> i speak french so im pretty bored of this misunderstood
[16:53] <Tm_T> Zewalrus: you must understand that we deal with thousands of people every day
[16:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Tm_T, Please double check me on this.   HUge was very offensive to myself and flannel in pm not to mention the channel
[16:55] <Zewalrus> i see so anything i will say will be use against me , to prove i dont give a ** about you i will leave 
[16:55] <Tm_T> Zewalrus: no, not really
[16:55] <Tm_T> Zewalrus: more like, we make mistakes
[16:55] <Tm_T> bah
[16:55] <Tm_T> Jack_Sparrow: sorry, can't
[16:56] <Jack_Sparrow> NO doubt in my mind on this one
[16:57] <Jack_Sparrow> aka firky too
[17:07] <Tm_T> Jack_Sparrow: seems like we can let him through just for test, because I'm sure IF he's ill-doer, ip-ban won't hold him
[17:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Tm_T, Agreed, which is what I told him in the first place, then he went off 
[17:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Tm_T, I assume he is resetting his modem as we speak
[17:09] <Tm_T> Jack_Sparrow: perhaps
[17:09] <Tm_T> I'm msging with him though
[17:10] <Tm_T> Jack_Sparrow: mind to lift the ban, and watch it for a moment?
[17:10]  * Tm_T is bit busy with packaging
[17:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Done
[17:10] <Tm_T> thanks
[17:10] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[17:22] <Jack_Sparrow> handled
[18:13] <jussi01> tupac_shakur just made his/her weekly visit to #kubuntu. *grumble*
[18:15] <genii> jussi01: I was going to point them to !ro
[18:21] <jussi01> genii: bit weird this one... ;)
[18:21] <genii> jussi01: Yup
[19:23] <genii> jussi01: Apologies. I was contributing to the delinquency there
[19:24] <jussi01> it was fine until the guy about the porn star
[19:41] <stdin> you have to love out-of-context quotes :)
[19:41]  * genii hands stdin a coffee
[19:41] <jussi01> heheh
[20:48]  * genii sips his coffee and thinks about spinachfish's dog/cat
[22:36] <Mez> man I'm tired
[22:36] <ikonia> sleep then
[22:36] <Mez> can't gotta wait for washing machine to finish so can put uniform in dryer, or cant go to work tomorrow
[22:37] <ikonia> oh dear
[22:37] <Mez> yeah
[22:48] <jussi01> Mez: do yhey not give you more than 1 uniform?
[22:48]  * jussi01 prods ikonia
[22:52] <Mez> jussi01: 2 shirts, 1 waistcoat, 1 tie.
[22:54] <ikonia> Mez: what are you working as at the moment
[22:54] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[22:54] <Jack_Sparrow> np, sorry but I just got home
[22:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Did I miss much
[22:55] <ikonia> nope
[22:55] <Mez> ikonia: lol ... I dont cyber with guys :P
[22:55] <Mez> oh, lol
[22:55] <Mez> *chuckles*
[22:55] <ikonia> hmmmm
[22:55] <Mez> t shirt, combats :D
[22:55] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[22:56] <Mez> lots of socks :D
[22:56] <ikonia> working as - not wearing !
[22:56] <Mez> sorry
[22:56] <Mez> I read wearing
[22:56]  * Mez is a dealer
[22:56] <ikonia> asl ?
[22:56] <jussi01> rofl
[22:56] <Mez> !asl
[22:57] <nickspoon> Why, hello there.
[22:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Hey big fella
[22:57]  * nickspoon growls seductively at Jack_Sparrow
[22:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Wanna see MY website.. Arrrgh
[22:58] <nickrud_> !o4o
[22:58] <Mez> lol
[22:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry, kinda light headed after my 4 mile walk
[22:59] <nickrud_> coc applies EVERYWHERE !!!! ;)
[22:59] <Mez> kinky :D
[23:01] <nickspoon> :D
[23:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Did anyone make up a feisty sources.list with repos for the old release for people wanting to upgrade feisty ?
[23:06] <Mez> Jack_Sparrow: sudo do-release-upgrade
[23:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Mez, No need to change the repos?>
[23:07] <Jack_Sparrow> I thouhg they had to be up to date first
[23:07] <nickrud_> doesn't that try to bring a release up to date prior to upgrading? Or at least, get the latest update-manager?
[23:07] <Mez> Jack_Sparrow: that does everything
[23:08] <Jack_Sparrow> good to know, we still get a few of those each day
[23:08] <nickrud_> Mez, include changing sources to old-releases if necessary to have a good update-manager? I've seen people (not necessarily feisty, maybe earlier) need to update from old-releases before they could successfully upgrade
[23:09] <Mez> nickrud_: it's independant of update-manager, so it doesnt need that
[23:09] <nickrud_> Mez, ah. thanks
[23:09] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[23:10] <jussi01> Im off to bed. nini all
[23:10] <Jack_Sparrow> nini
[23:10] <Mez> ok, it's actually part of update-manager 
[23:10] <Mez> :-"
[23:12]  * genii puts on more coffee
[23:39] <Mez> @bansearch Gnea
[23:40] <Mez> hmm, he's being a bit of an ass.
[23:40] <genii> Hm
[23:41] <Mez> 23:35 <Gnea> suup: for the final time, please, /join #python and ask there.
[23:41] <Flannel> He's always been, he's had warnings about it too
[23:41] <Mez> I asked him what he was going to do, and that he had the right to ask the question (as I'd pointed out before he asked it, and this guy had only sent the question once)
[23:41] <Flannel> Feel free to mute him for an hour or whatnot as needed
[23:41] <Mez> he factoided me "ask the question in the channel"
[23:42] <Mez> I told him why I was /msg'ing him
[23:42] <Mez> and then he responded to "not PM him without asking first"
[23:42] <Flannel> He's got an attitude, and historically will randomly trigger sort-of relevant factoids when not needed, or already answered.
[23:43] <nickrud_> ohhh, 'very well'
[23:44] <Mez> did/does anyone else see
[23:45] <Mez>  23:35 <Gnea> suup: for the final time, please, /join #python and ask there.
[23:45] <Mez> as an ultimatum/threat?
[23:45] <genii> Mez: The fellow suup had also inquired earlier on a python issue
[23:45] <nickrud_> and been told to register before
[23:46] <Mez> genii: I know, but it's the wording/the way that he put the message across that got to me
[23:46] <genii> Mez: But definitely gnea's comment appears as an ultimatum 
[23:47] <Flannel> Mez: How's he behaving in the query?
[23:47] <nickrud_> or an expression of frustration since gnea knows well it would be an idle threat
[23:47] <Mez> Flannel: like a stuck up kid.
[23:48] <genii> Flannel: Heh, you sent jojo  !es in #u same time I also sent it to them in #k 
[23:48] <Flannel> He should just ignore it if he's getting frustrated.  He knows how to ignore a single line occassionally
[23:48] <Flannel> genii: multi-lingual *and* multi-flavor!
[23:48] <genii> Yup
[23:54] <Mez> http://rafb.net/p/alnEKt21.html
[23:55] <Mez> Gnea: how can we help?
[23:55] <Gnea> Mez: by showing patience.
[23:56] <Gnea> clearly, you have totally misunderstood the intent and meaning of my words.
[23:56] <Mez> Gnea: if I can, then so can others.
[23:56] <Mez> 23:46 <+Mez> genii: I know, but it's the wording/the way that he put the message across that got to me
[23:56] <Mez> 23:46 <+genii> Mez: But definitely gnea's comment appears as an ultimatum 
[23:56] <Mez> from earlier
[23:56] <Gnea> "for the final time", meant that, if he didn't get his problem sorted out, then I would have gone to an op for help.
[23:56] <genii> Yup
[23:57] <Gnea> and yet, you had to spend all of that time going off on me about it.
[23:57] <Gnea> I've had more than my fair share of discussions with ops about procedures and whatnot.
[23:57] <Mez> Gnea: which means it was definately meant as a threat/ultimatum, which was the issue.
[23:58] <Mez> s/was/is/
[23:58] <Flannel> Gnea: You've had your fair share about procedures, yet you apparently fail to heed them.
[23:58] <Mez> Gnea: what I'm ttrying to say is - dont make threats/ultimatums. If there's an issue, poke an op.
[23:58] <Mez> You can PM any of us about a problemous user at any time, or join here.
[23:59] <Gnea> I'll take that into consideration.
[23:59] <Mez> Gnea: but, I'm not happy with the attitude that you took to me, I think that's another issue.
[23:59] <Mez> !coc
[23:59] <Gnea> Mez: well, you came at me with a pretty poor attitude to begin with.