| bryce | tjaalton: btw I tried manually copying the libdrm-dev headers back into /usr/include/drm, but it made no difference; -ati still hangs on X start. | 02:00 |
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| bryce | surprisingly, vesa actually looks pretty good, although it's a lower res and no dual-head | 02:01 |
| tjaalton | bryce: the headers are used only when building the drivers | 08:02 |
| tjaalton | or do you mean you rebuilt -ati? | 08:02 |
| bryce | ah. no didn't rebuild it | 08:05 |
| tjaalton | shouldn't make a difference | 08:08 |
| tjaalton | so it just hangs? | 08:08 |
| bryce | yep, I'd had it working fine and dandy with intrepid, then did the upgrade | 08:08 |
| bryce | X fails to start, and switching to vts just displays corrupted screens | 08:09 |
| bryce | so my next hypothesis is an EXA/XAA problem | 08:09 |
| tjaalton | ah, so you can change the vt when it happens? | 08:09 |
| tjaalton | is it a r5xx? | 08:09 |
| bryce | RV630 | 08:10 |
| tjaalton | hmm, dunno which generation that is | 08:10 |
| tjaalton | if it's DRI capable, try disabling it | 08:10 |
| bryce | RV630 [Radeon HD 2600XT] | 08:11 |
| tjaalton | ok, it's not that | 08:11 |
| tjaalton | maybe it's trying to use the wrong output? | 08:11 |
| bryce | bryceharrington.org/files/Xorg.0.log.old | 08:12 |
| bryce | I don't think it's a wrong output issue - the card has 2 outputs and I have monitors connected to both. | 08:14 |
| tjaalton | heh, ok | 08:14 |
| tjaalton | there's a new upstream version in experimental.. try that | 08:14 |
| bryce | yeah | 08:16 |
| bryce | hmm, this looks suspicious: | 08:16 |
| bryce | Output 69 disable success | 08:16 |
| bryce | Output 51 disable success | 08:16 |
| bryce | Blank CRTC 0 success | 08:16 |
| bryce | Disable CRTC 0 success | 08:16 |
| bryce | Blank CRTC 1 success | 08:16 |
| bryce | Disable CRTC 1 success | 08:16 |
| tjaalton | right | 08:17 |
| tjaalton | that's why I suspect an initialization issue | 08:17 |
| tjaalton | bug 312924 looks similar | 08:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 312924 in xorg "HD3450 configuration fails on reboot in jaunty" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/312924 | 08:31 |
| bryce | yeah | 08:44 |
| tjaalton | and bug 311748 | 08:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 311748 in xorg "HD3470 AND HD3200 X56TR laptop x doesn't start / black screen" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/311748 | 08:45 |
| tjaalton | I've duped them | 08:50 |
| tjaalton | em, the former with the latter | 08:50 |
| bryce | great | 08:51 |
| bryce | I'm back to work tomorrow, and I think I'll focus the day on sorting out this particular bug (or upstreaming it at least) | 08:51 |
| tjaalton | the new upstream version didn't help | 08:52 |
| tjaalton | ? | 08:52 |
| bryce | right, I'll try that tomorrow first | 08:52 |
| tjaalton | ah, ok | 08:53 |
| bryce | (today I've been doing shop project stuff, and tonight am installing the new bookcase I made) | 08:53 |
| bryce | my wife's excited because I've got a pile of old books out in the main room that will be moved in now, and it'll eliminate clutter she's had to look at | 08:56 |
| tjaalton | hehe | 08:56 |
| tjaalton | it's -12C outside, so I'll stay in and weed the bugs | 08:57 |
| bryce | ouch :-) | 08:58 |
| tjaalton | btw, I've changed my contract to 20h/week so I can concentrate on my studies the next two months (at least), so might be that I need to lower my commitment to X/ubuntu for a while :/ | 09:01 |
| bryce | ah, good to know | 09:07 |
| bryce | how'd your tests go btw? | 09:07 |
| tjaalton | good practice :) | 09:07 |
| tjaalton | next ones the week after next week | 09:07 |
| tjaalton | I was just so jetlagged the whole week, and I actually had to skip the first one because I couldn't stay awake for more than 5min | 09:08 |
| tjaalton | ..at a time | 09:09 |
| bryce | :-/ I was worried something like that'd happen. Hope your professors were sympathetic | 09:09 |
| tjaalton | well they want to get rid of us (slackers), so they have no choice :) | 09:11 |
| tjaalton | I'll merge -ati, it can't be worse than the current version :) | 09:11 |
| Q-FUNK | howdy! any chance to get the fix to bug #255991 moved from hardy-proposed to hardy-updates? | 09:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 255991 in xserver-xorg-video-geode "xf86-video-geode: DDC probing broken on GX2/CS5535 since 2.9.0 (patch)" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/255991 | 09:15 |
| tjaalton | Q-FUNK: isn't that something for an archive-admin? | 09:18 |
| bryce | yeah, need to talk to pitti or slangasek | 09:20 |
| Q-FUNK | tjaalton: I'm not sure. last time I asked, I was told to test and ensure that it doesn't introduce any regression. | 09:20 |
| Q-FUNK | ok | 09:20 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: what are you studying? | 09:25 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: major in semiconductors & materials in electronics (blech), minor in software engineering & business | 09:27 |
| tjaalton | so the courses I have left are real gems, like physics II, inorganic chemistry etc :) | 09:28 |
| tseliot | hehe, a lot of fun | 09:29 |
| tjaalton | a lot, yes | 09:29 |
| tseliot | will it give you the chance to be paid more? How does it work in Finland? | 09:30 |
| tjaalton | sure | 09:30 |
| tjaalton | if you have a degree it gives you more options | 09:30 |
| tseliot | ok, then it's definitely worth the effort | 09:30 |
| tjaalton | although there are plenty of experts who have dropped out and made a good living | 09:31 |
| tseliot | you already have a job, right? | 09:32 |
| tjaalton | sure, had one for ten years now.. one reason why it's been taking so long :) | 09:32 |
| tseliot | aah, I thought you started your degree course recently | 09:33 |
| tseliot | more recently | 09:34 |
| tjaalton | heh | 09:34 |
| tseliot | good luck then | 09:34 |
| tjaalton | thanks | 09:35 |
| tjaalton | bryce: the new ati version didn't help your setup? | 18:52 |
| bryce | I've installed it; I'll reboot after I finish fiddling with a few bug reports | 18:53 |
| tjaalton | looks like evertjan didn't get the new version yet | 18:53 |
| tjaalton | II) Module radeon: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.99.3, module version = 6.9.0 | 18:53 |
| CShadowRun | Hi guys, i was just reading http://blog.qa.ubuntu.com/node/9 and i hear you need testers | 19:45 |
| CShadowRun | I have a quad screen setup (2 nVidia 8800GT cards, both dual head) and i currently run 2 X screens to manage it | 19:46 |
| CShadowRun | i'd love to help you guys test, so just give me a call :) | 19:46 |
| CShadowRun | love the sound of xrandr :) | 19:46 |
| bryce | CShadowRun: thanks, welcome to the ubuntu-x team :-) | 19:56 |
| bryce | CShadowRun: I assume you're using the -nvidia driver? | 19:57 |
| CShadowRun | yup :) | 19:57 |
| bryce | what are you interested in testing particularly? | 19:58 |
| CShadowRun | well i'd like to see the xrandr stuff for multiple heads | 19:58 |
| CShadowRun | because xinerama is a bit crap, and so are multiple X screens lol | 19:58 |
| CShadowRun | it's a shame to see multiple X screens fall into a state of disrepair, though | 20:01 |
| bryce | heh, well you're sort of stuck, since you're using the -nvidia proprietary binary driver | 20:01 |
| CShadowRun | ah | 20:01 |
| CShadowRun | well i can always put another installation of ubuntu on one of my drives to test with | 20:01 |
| bryce | with -nvidia you first need to wait for them to provide xrandr 1.2 support | 20:01 |
| CShadowRun | yea | 20:02 |
| CShadowRun | i well, i shall just twiddle my thumbs till it comes along | 20:03 |
| CShadowRun | unless theres any better ideas :) | 20:03 |
| bryce | CShadowRun: are you using nvidia-graphics-drivers-177? Do you have jaunty installed? | 20:05 |
| bryce | if so, one area you could help is by looking at bugs in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-177 | 20:06 |
| bryce | some documentation for how to check bug reports is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Triaging | 20:08 |
| bryce | bbl - testing new -ati | 20:12 |
| CShadowRun | I can probably load jaunty on one of my spare drives and check out some of those bugs :) | 20:54 |
| bryce | tjaalton: yep reverting the EXA patch and going back to XAA solved the issue for me | 22:29 |
| tjaalton | bryce: ok, so it was the same bug then | 22:30 |
| tjaalton | strange that the patch _looks_ ok | 22:30 |
| bryce | I'll need to look it over a bit more | 22:31 |
| bryce | there's actually 2 bugs - one is why EXA isn't working (which may or may not be the same issue as graber), and the other is why XAA can't be specified | 22:31 |
| tjaalton | it's the same | 22:31 |
| tjaalton | I bet EXA works for you if you force it in the conf | 22:32 |
| bryce | ok lemme try | 22:32 |
| bryce | you're right | 22:33 |
| bryce | bryce@chideok:~$ grep XAA /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 22:33 |
| bryce | bryce@chideok:~$ grep EXA /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 22:33 |
| bryce | (**) RADEON(0): Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" | 22:33 |
| bryce | btw, I subbed ubuntu-x to radeontool | 22:34 |
| bryce | there's no bugs against it, but I think we should probably get the package up to date with what's in airlied's git tree | 22:34 |
| tjaalton | ok | 22:35 |
| bryce | aha, found one issue... setting AccelMode to XAA does not actually turn off useEXA, it ust leaves the default | 22:48 |
| bryce | ahaa!! | 22:50 |
| bryce | tjaalton: ok I understand what's going wrong | 22:50 |
| tjaalton | great :) | 22:51 |
| bryce | it *is* an EXA problem | 22:51 |
| bryce | graber actually isn't getting EXA (neither am I) | 22:51 |
| bryce | (==) RADEON(0): No acceleration support available on R600 yet. | 22:51 |
| tjaalton | heh | 22:51 |
| bryce | there's logic that prevents considering EXA if CHIP_FAMILY_R600 | 22:52 |
| bryce | so it forces XAA for that | 22:52 |
| bryce | however my patch ignored that and set EXA as the default before that condition was checked | 22:52 |
| bryce | so I was forcing EXA on R600 for graber and I, thus exposing the EXA problem | 22:52 |
| tjaalton | maybe the other bug should be closed as well then (311748), or marked as dupe of the first? | 22:53 |
| bryce | secondarily, there's another problem I mentioned above where specifying XAA doesn't switch you to XAA, only to the default | 22:53 |
| bryce | tjaalton: no, I think that's a different problem actually | 22:54 |
| tjaalton | ok | 22:55 |
| bryce | they are reporting seeing that issue on intrepid, which doesn't have my patch so could not be seeing this problem | 22:55 |
| tjaalton | ah | 22:55 |
| tjaalton | right | 22:55 |
| tjaalton | well, now there's a change it might work | 22:56 |
| tjaalton | chance | 22:56 |
| bryce | yep | 22:57 |
| bryce | hmm | 22:58 |
| bryce | interesting; in reading the logic it sounds like even XAA is unsupported on this chipset. bummer | 22:58 |
| tjaalton | well, r6xx only gained acceleration support a couple of days ago :) | 22:59 |
| tjaalton | but not something for jaunty.. | 23:00 |
| bryce | well, basic performance seems fine | 23:00 |
| bryce | ok, made a new patch... time to build and test | 23:07 |
| bryce | hrm, the j key on my keyboard is not producing j's reliably... not a good keyboard for development of uanty | 23:10 |
| tjaalton | heh | 23:10 |
| bryce | ok here we go | 23:11 |
| bryce | seems okay | 23:12 |
| bryce | I can't test setting XAA though | 23:15 |
| bryce | at least, not easily right now | 23:15 |
| tjaalton | right | 23:15 |
| tjaalton | ship it | 23:15 |
| bryce | heh, done | 23:16 |
| bryce | hmm, with sufficient firefox windows open, performance issues become evident | 23:16 |
| bryce | tjaalton: where'd you see r6xx gaining accel support? The mainline tree seems to still have it disabled | 23:20 |
| tjaalton | bryce: not the -ati driver, but the fuss about the DRM code etc. radeonhd has exa support with the experimental code, probably will land in -ati too after a while | 23:21 |
| bryce | ah right | 23:21 |
| stgraber | yeah, scrolling pages with the ati driver on r6xx with 1680x1050 as resolution is really a pain :) | 23:29 |
| stgraber | for now I'm using my laptop as a server and using my Asus EEE (intel graphic :)) with an external screen ssh-ing my laptop | 23:29 |
| bryce | stgraber: I've uploaded a new -ati which should fix the problem you were seeing | 23:30 |
| bryce | stgraber: sorry it was my lousy coding that broke it | 23:30 |
| stgraber | bryce: no problem, thanks for fixing it :) | 23:32 |
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