[00:35] <nitro2k01> Hello, I'm looking for a netinst kernel/initrd
[00:35] <nitro2k01> Or an ISO I can extract said items from
[00:43] <nitro2k01> Oh, it seems like it was on the alternate ISO
[00:43] <nitro2k01> I'll check if it works
[02:52] <Rapture2k4> hello all
[02:53] <Rapture2k4> is anyone available to help me setup samba? i'm failing at it miserably
[02:57] <FactTech> Rapture2k4 What's the issue you're having?
[03:38] <source> saluton
[03:42] <ball> mornin'
[03:50] <source> happy new year!
[03:51] <ball> yup
[03:54] <source> how can I get xfce 4.4.3 in xubuntu 8.04_
[03:54] <source> ?
[03:55] <ball> source: what version of Xfce came with it?
[03:57] <source> xfce 4.4.2
[03:59] <ball> what does "sudo apt-get update" get you?
[04:04] <source> that's no update to xfce 4.4.3
[04:04] <source> do you have xubuntu?
[04:11] <ball> Yes
[04:11] <ball> What does .3 have that .2 doesn't?
[04:17] <source> ball, http://www.xfce.org/documentation/changelogs/4.4.3
[04:19] <ball> I don't know then.  Presumably Xubuntu has a maintainer
[04:19] <ball> You could ask him or her.
[05:02] <vidd> i changed my cdrom out for a dvd burner...how do i make linux see it?
[05:02] <ball> vidd: isn't it automatic?
[05:03] <vidd> it would appear not
[05:03] <vidd> =\
[05:03] <ball> vidd: can the drive do DVD-RAM?
[05:04] <vidd> the new one can....the old could not
[05:04] <vidd> the old was cust cdrom
[05:04]  * ball nods
[05:04] <vidd> *just
[05:04] <ball> Di you have a DVD-RAM disc?
[05:04] <vidd> i have a dvd
[05:05] <ball> Ah, you want to play it?
[05:05] <vidd> but even old cd's that pl,ayed in the old drive wont mount in this one
[05:06] <ball> vidd: does it have power?
[05:07] <vidd> yes....it will load and run an install disk...but i dont want to re-install
[05:07] <ball> vidd: that's a good sign.
[05:08] <vidd> i assume i need to change fstab
[05:08] <ball> vidd: I doubt it
[05:08] <vidd> but i dont know alot about it....
[05:08] <ball> vidd: what kind of disc are you trying to use?
[05:08] <vidd> this is the line from fstab:
[05:08] <ball> DVD-Video?
[05:08] <vidd> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[05:09] <vidd> any disk...none will load from inside linux
[05:09] <ball> vidd: what mount command are you using?
[05:10] <vidd> b4 i changed the hardware, i didnt need to run any mount commands
[05:10] <vidd> the disk would be auto-detected by my file manager
[05:11] <ball> vidd: what kind of discs?
[05:11] <vidd> cd, cdrw would auto load on old hardware....nothing loads on new hardware
[05:12] <ball> you've tried DVD-ROMs?
[05:12] <vidd> right now i put the install disk that i know the drive can read because it booted
[05:13] <ball> Perhaps Linux just hates it.
[05:13] <vidd> the old hardware could not read dvd's
[05:13] <ball> Yes, you said that already
[05:13] <vidd> so i need to know how to tell linux "the hardware has changed"
[05:13] <ball> vidd: I doubt that
[05:14] <ball> Linux probably doesn't care.
[05:14] <ball> ...especially with something as standard as an optical drive
[05:14] <vidd> it obviously DOES care, otherwise the disk would have loaded
[05:15] <ball> vidd: okay, if that's what you want to believe.
[05:15]  * ball shrugs
[05:17] <vidd> i put the old drive back in and it worked
[06:18] <source> hi everybody!
[06:19] <source> happy new year
[06:19] <source> :P
[08:07] <jmtechy> evrytime i update my system on eeexubuntu it breaks my wifi
[09:05] <source> hi!
[09:09] <gabkdlly> source: hi
[09:15] <source> :P
[11:41] <|ntegra|> wow, quiet
[15:06] <_Aldur> Is nvidia drviver and xubuntu 8.10 still a problem?
[15:12] <vinnl> _Aldur, I believe if you use an old video card then the driver isn't available
[15:12] <vinnl> _Aldur, I suppose you could try popping in an 8.10 CD and see whether the driver is available through the Hardware Drivers application
[15:13] <vinnl> _Aldur, oh, btw, that's Nvidia's official drivers, open source drivers *are* available but they don't support e.g. compositing, so you won't be able to run Compiz with that
[15:15] <_Aldur> thanks  vinnl!
[15:15] <vinnl> yw :)
[15:44] <theking> Anybody know a good C/C++ IDE?
[15:47] <TheSheep> theking: vim
[15:48] <theking> I despise vim.
[15:48] <TheSheep> theking: then emacs
[15:49] <TheSheep> theking: also eclipse, netbeans, kdevelop, anjuta, etc.
[15:49] <theking> Oh shit, I forgot about eclipse
[15:49] <theking> lol
[15:50] <TheSheep> theking: please don't swear
[15:50] <theking> k.
[15:54] <arualavi> geany
[18:40] <Wasp> Hey, how do I start xmms after having installed it? i've rebooted after installing it and it does not show up under applications.  running just xmms2 in terminal gives me a list of commands to use, none of which seem to be the one i am looking for.  I want the interface to show up
[18:51] <Seomah> hi all - I'm trying to set up a remote desktop between xubuntu and winXP - can someone help me?
[18:55] <Odd-rationale> Seomah: winxp server, and xubuntu client?
[18:55] <Odd-rationale> or other way?
[18:57] <Seomah> i want it both ways, but first winxp master, xubuntu client
[19:23] <source> saluton
[20:18] <war1> how install c++ on ubntu
[20:49] <Wasp> hey, in what folder are the desktop icon images for xfce4 located?
[21:03] <mattyb243> anyone around to answer a question?
[21:08] <aaroninfidel> Hi, I accidentally installed compiz and now, my WM is all messed up, how can I disable compiz using terminal?
[21:08] <random__> mattyb243, just ask the question.  nobody will commit to it until they read it and see what you want
[21:08] <random__> as who knows if we know how to fix your problem :D
[21:11] <war1> hello
[21:12] <mattyb243> ok im trying to get 7.10 on my ps3, used the same discs a few days ago and they worked perfectly. i uninstalled to get a fresh install for wireless, and now the install gets to the partion loader then freezes
[21:12] <mattyb243> the part that confuses me is the discs worked fine just days ago
[21:20] <mattyb243> any newer builds i should try using or?
[21:27] <mattyb243> is 8.10 ps3 compatible?
[21:30] <war1> how to use Finger tool
[21:35] <Aison> hello
[21:35] <Aison> how much space will it take to install xubuntu?
[21:38] <mattyb243> on what platform?
[21:38] <mattyb243> mine took about 600MB on my ps3
[21:39] <mattyb243> should be the same across platforms
[21:40] <Aison> old p3
[21:40] <Aison> Would like to install it to a CF Card, if that's possible
[21:41] <mattyb243> as to that im not sure, i did it with the parition method and am using an external HDD for storage
[21:43] <mattyb243> i cant even get mine to install again it keeps freezing on me
[21:53] <mattyb243> given up on the xubuntu disc its giving me to much trouble, looks like ill just install the xubuntu desktop on 710 gutsy gibbon ubuntu
[22:11] <charlie-tca> mattyb243: did you try asking in #ubuntu-ps3
[22:39] <Overshee> hey,  anybody know why i dont have a "usr/share/mime/packages/freedesktop.org.xml"
[22:39] <Overshee> and/or where I can get one?
[22:45] <crimsun> sudo apt-get --reinstall install shared-mime-info:
[22:46] <crimsun> s/:$//
[22:47] <Overshee> ty
[23:09] <grandmaneedshelp> Hi! I am in the proces of setting up xubuntu for my eighty year old grandmother... I need to simplify the system as much as possible, a long with locking it down settings wise
[23:10] <grandmaneedshelp> I am used to gnome, not xfce4, is there a way to lock the panels?
[23:13] <grandmaneedshelp> my local time is 12 past midnight, so perhaps I should just try again tomorrow?
[23:19] <Odd-rationale> !info sabayon
[23:19] <Odd-rationale> grandmaneedshelp: take a look at sabayon ^
[23:19] <Odd-rationale> it is for gnome..
[23:20] <grandmaneedshelp> why? sabayon is like gentoo minus the constant compiling afaik?
[23:20] <grandmaneedshelp> oh it's an application?
[23:20] <Odd-rationale> no... not sabayon the distro... sabayon the gnome User profiles maintainance
[23:20] <Odd-rationale> yeah...
[23:21] <Odd-rationale> http://projects.gnome.org/sabayon/
[23:21] <grandmaneedshelp> I knew both ubuntu and xubuntu have gtk in common, but didn't think the same tools could get used. will have a look
[23:22] <grandmaneedshelp> but can it handle xfce settings?
[23:24] <grandmaneedshelp> I'm installing it... I just need to make xubuntu as user friendly as possible, after all... we're dealing with an 80 yr old gal here
[23:30] <grandmaneedshelp> Odd-rationale: should I just mark all things mandatory?
[23:32] <grandmaneedshelp> Odd-rationale: oh wait, I found a cool settings manager :) will work my way through it.. thx for all the help