[00:27] hello [00:27] my name is abraham [00:27] happy new year [00:27] is some body in there [00:27] ? [00:27] in here [00:27] ? [00:28] i just woul like to know if you are going to use this icons as the default icons for ubuntu [00:28] ¿? [00:28] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Intrepid_Ibex_Icons_-_Art_Team?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=pn_preview.png [00:28] ¿? [00:29] ubuntulog: are u there [00:29] ? [00:34] <_MMA_> manzur: Please do not spam the channel with lots of "¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?" If someone is around, and can answer your question, they will. Just be patient. [00:34] _MMA_: how are u? [00:35] _MMA_: u are the one that is working on ubuntu art, don't you? [00:35] <_MMA_> SOmewhat. [00:36] do u know what is going to be the new icon set for ubuntu? [00:36] <_MMA_> But mostly Ubuntu Studio and projects *around* Ubuntu. [00:36] <_MMA_> There is nothing officially planed. [00:37] you mean u are not thinking about it right now? [00:37] you mean there is not going to be a new icon set for ubuntu 9.04¿? [00:37] <_MMA_> The latter. [00:37] what do you mean? 9.10¿? [00:38] <_MMA_> There ate no *official* Ubuntu plans for a new icon set at all right now. [00:38] <_MMA_> s/ate/are [00:39] so we are going to get the same icon set for ubuntu 9.04 final release [00:39] ¿? [00:39] <_MMA_> There's no need for separate message for your punctuation. Please stop. [00:40] <_MMA_> Same set for 9.04 [00:40] ok [00:40] and for ubuntustudio¿? [00:40] <_MMA_> No new set there either. [00:41] ok thanks, that was all i wanted to know [00:41] <_MMA_> Plan is to derive from the Breathe set when ready. [00:42] _MMA_: so you mean that maybe breathe icon set is going to replace ubuntu icon set¿? [00:43] <_MMA_> manzur: It is a community effort that hopes to provide a new default set for Ubuntu. But is no way official at this time. [00:43] ok [00:44] _MMA_: i love this icons set, just make the know: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Intrepid_Ibex_Icons_-_Art_Team?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=pn_preview.png [17:37] happy new year to all :) [17:37] heh, happy new year dilomo [17:38] thorwil: enjoied the holidays? [17:39] dilomo: a bit, until i got hit with a cold [17:39] dilomo: very exciting times, one moment i'm feeling hot, the next cold. have to practice breathing through one nostril only :) [17:40] dilomo: i hope you have better luck? [17:40] thorwil: sorry [17:40] thorwil: a bit [17:41] I was with my relatives most of tha time [17:41] compared to having more fun with friend the last years [17:42] oh yeah, relatives ... worse than friends but often still nice to have ;) [17:42] :D [17:43] btw do you think that decreasing the contrast of some controls will be good? [17:43] thorwil: I mean new wave [17:44] can't answer without seeing it [17:46] sec [17:48] piccdrop.com is not responding [17:49] try xs.to you just have to click around a bit to get a link to just the picture there [17:52] still not working [17:52] I'll use imagevenue [17:55] thorwil: finally [17:55] http://img160.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=05245_Screenshot-The_Widget_Factory_122_1144lo.jpg [17:56] see the textbox [18:00] yes [18:01] cool :) [18:01] I'll start working in that direction [18:01] heh, i only said yes as in i do see it ;p [18:01] so .. [18:02] so the old contrast can be seen on the combobox above it? [18:02] correct [18:02] new is fine [18:03] thorwil: probably I should decreace it but with less [18:03] dilomo: say, you didn't have talks with Troy about clunk vs subtlety and elegance? :) [18:03] no but I had a talk wit Cimi [18:03] he criticised me a lot :) [18:04] i imagine he was very diplomatic about it ;> [18:04] :D almost [18:04] btw what do you think of this mockup: [18:04] http://msart2k.deviantart.com/art/preview21082008-95536060 [18:05] looks foggy [18:06] but is interesting too see th idea behind [18:07] everyting as one piece, not titlebar no steppers [18:08] any every not-that-technical user will be lost [18:09] thorwil: hmm I guess you are right [18:17] thorwil: do you know a cool font for numbers [18:18] I have to make chapter frontpages [18:18] for one of my reports but don't know what to use [18:18] dilomo: no, i would have to blindly go through my fonts, too [18:32] thorwil: here's preview [18:32] * thorwil -> dinner [18:32] http://img43.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=07471_test_122_1131lo.jpg [18:43] Cimi: hey [18:44] Cimi: happy new year [18:47] Cimi: what do you think? (see the new textbox) [18:47] http://msart2k.deviantart.com/art/preview21082008-95536060 [18:47] oops : http://img160.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=05245_Screenshot-The_Widget_Factory_122_1144lo.jpg [19:18] dilomo, first of all it's not bad :) few things: [19:18] 1) GtkFrame [19:18] 2) GtkNotebook [19:19] and generally the theme feels too sharp [19:19] dilomo: it's fine [19:19] Cimi: did you see the textbox [19:19] I have increased the brighness abit [19:20] Cimi: about the tabs i listened to you [19:20] but few are messed up [19:20] just the normal tab is correct [19:21] I mean [19:21] yeah I know that the bottom tabs could nto be done [19:21] the one with the tabs on the left/right [19:21] perfectly [19:21] and I haven't changed the side tabs [19:21] oh ok [19:21] because they are not used much in GNOME [19:22] pidgin for example [19:22] what about pidgin [19:22] it can have vertical notebooks === aantn1 is now known as aantn [19:23] hmm it is possible [19:36] I have to go [19:36] bye [20:14] kwwii, ping [22:12] oops, too late [22:14] <_MMA_> Hi Ken. [22:14] _MMA_: hey Cory [22:14] * kwwii just made coconut cream pie [22:15] * _MMA_ wants one. [22:15] by the time it got to you in the mail you might not want it anymore [22:15] <_MMA_> :( [22:17] <_MMA_> kwwii: You know any links off-hand about the font hinting issue in GNOME/KDE? I guess its the FreeType stuff? [22:17] tomorrow is the last day off :-( [22:17] _MMA_: nothing off the top of my head [22:17] <_MMA_> I know Apple has obvious patents. [22:17] it should not be hard to find though [22:17] <_MMA_> Debian warns you when you enable full hinting. [22:18] right [22:18] <_MMA_> Im just trying to find out why its kinda over looked for now. [22:18] iirc things changed recently which make it more open [22:18] can't remember the details though [22:19] good thing is, tuesday is a holiday here :-) [22:19] so monday can't be that bad [22:20] <_MMA_> Best I can find is this: http://freetype.sourceforge.net/patents.html Kinda seems like Apple just is over-looking it because it kinda benifits them in some way. [22:20] <_MMA_> Sounds like fun. But, *If* I were working, I'd be tired of this time off. :P [22:23] hehe, I am an old man [22:23] <_MMA_> pfftt... [22:24] <_MMA_> kwwii: Troy is working on some neat wallpaper ideas for Jaunty. Hopefully he will submit them. [22:24] _MMA_: wow, that would be killer [22:25] <_MMA_> Doin' some watercolor stuff then takin pics of it. [22:25] sounds like fun [23:16] kwwii: http://www.ubuntu-art.org/content/show.php/Human-Murrine?content=96337 [23:21] <_MMA_> dashua: You tinkering with Brethe there? :) [23:21] * _MMA_ needs to make some updates. [23:22] Of course. It's awesome. [23:23] <_MMA_> I got some more filetypes to add. And the folder is broken @ 32px and below. [23:24] Ah nice. I kind of combined the missing files with Human otherwise the default gnome-icon-theme picked them up. [23:26] <_MMA_> It should be set to inherit Human already. [23:26] <_MMA_> Once I create the .deb Ill set it as a depend. [23:27] <_MMA_> I think the index.theme needs a little love as well. [23:27] Nice. I've been using it for a while. It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside. [23:27] Awesome. [23:28] Much better than the Human set. [23:29] Works very well with Dust and Human. Although, I'm in Dust 95 % of the time. [23:29] * dashua prefers darker themes [23:29] <_MMA_> Thanx. Sebastian has been a strong influence. I'm mostly handling the technical side of things. Some design guidelines. [23:29] <_MMA_> Yeah. Looks nice with Dust. [23:30] The folder and trash icons alone are what attracted me to the set. [23:31] I don't think I've seen a better trash icon actually. [23:31] <_MMA_> There's still alot of work to do. We'll get there. I think we'll have a Jaunty package. Defiantly +1. [23:32] I can't wait. Until then, I'll steal and test from bazaar ;) [23:32] <_MMA_> Cool! :) Glad to know *someone* is looking. [23:33] Definitely. [23:35] <_MMA_> dashua: I still gotta edit the script to output the preview images as well. The holidays have slowed things to a crawl. Ill get to it next week or so. [23:36] Cool. Is Breathe going to be included as an alternate icon set in Jaunty? [23:37] <_MMA_> That will come down to space. I'm fairly confidant it could be an alt. Space-permitting. [23:38] It would be great to replace some of those otherwise defunct sets that are included. [23:38] * _MMA_ fingers crossed. [23:38] I guess it will fall into the same category as getting the older themes out as well. [23:39] * dashua too [23:39] <_MMA_> I won't push for that 'till +1. [23:52] dashua: wow, nifty [23:52] sorry, been watching a movie [23:53] dashua: I am guessing there will be more info as to the planned gtk theme for jaunty and beyond soon [23:54] I imagine that using your stuff to make murrine more human might be interesting [23:54] I haven't looked into the details yet though [23:54] Awesome. I can live with Dust and Human until then. [23:55] Cimi is doing some awesome work lately with the engine. [23:56] dashua: it seems you are interested, I'll be in touch sometime soon, hopefully, and we can discuss certain plans [23:57] dashua: at this point in time we are still restructuring the team so I am not sure exactly how things will proceed after the holidays [23:57] kwwii: Awesome. I'd be more than happy to help out. [23:57] but I should know pretty quickly, within a week or so I guess [23:58] dashua: do I have your email address? [23:58] I think you have posted to the list before, so I should be able to find it [23:59] hrm, no [23:59] I have. I'm also in Launchpad under the same name. [23:59] cool, I can find it there then [23:59] I promise i will be int ouch [23:59] in touch [23:59] https://launchpad.net/~jws141-yahoo